Also, in Alhaitham's quest the last mission is called 'Pride and Prejudice". This is where we meet Kaveh. This can be a reference to Jane Austen's famous book, where the male protagonist (Darcy) is a very logical, socially awkward, introverted person. Elizabeth on the other hand is very emotional, and idealistic. They're the complete opposites of each other, just like Alhaitham and Kaveh.
Kaveh: "Uh... I wouldn't say 'friend' exactly..." ( _I'm his boyfriend_ ) "...We used to be. But we're not anymore." ( _We're engaged for 5 f*cking years_ )
...guys, even if you want to insist they're a romantic pair (and Hoyo does push that idea) y'all gotta be real for a second. What Kaveh was saying is that they *WERE* much closer and now they're not. So if you want to understand them being "friends" as "lovers" then Kaveh essentially announces their (past and current) break up. Y'all need to stop it with the nonsense. If it's a joke then fine, but if it's not...please be real. At least there are Haikaveh fans who understand that they're basically a bitter divorced couple at this point (and that's only if they were ever a pair in the past, which is debatable).
I swear hoyoverse knew what they were doing with those 2, they knew the whole fandom would end up saying that they're a married couple lmaoo even if people wanted to argue against it they have no proof that they *aren't* married
@@vera_light idk it just is. From my own experience and from my other musician friends, couples that own instruments always find time to do duets together. We usually play love songs, favorite songs, and disney classics. But you know, maybe it's just my group of friends, can't say for others though.
and not just that if you read Al Haitham's mind using nahida you'd notice that he starts to care about the books kaveh keeps naging him about. and starts considering about cleaning them up, shows that he also cares about Kaveh's comfort they are THE GENSHIN SHIP
#9 they talk about each other so much that even their friends (and like everyone in Sumeru except these two) are convinced. #10 Alhaitham is themed as a mirror whereas Kaveh is themed as a reflection. #11 When Kaveh points out Alhaitham's dusty books, Alhaitham cares about this comment. This is big for someone who doesn't care about what others say. #12 Alhaitham being a man of rationality has no logical reason for allowing/continuing to let Kaveh to stay at his place. He struggles to pay the rent and asks to be treated which adds to his debt, they get into disagreements alot, Kaveh isn't expected to do the housework it seems. I can only see this choice being out of sympathy/empathy and you can't convince me otherwise. #13 Because OP said so. P.s I would love to see Kaveh and Alhaitham when they were actually friends. How is it any different than what we see now? XD
I imagined when they're friends they would've still argue like this. The only difference is that Kaveh would be able to proudly say that Haitham is indeed a friend to his other friends.
I understand why Al-Haitham theme is mirror... Ibn Al-Haitham, the actual scholar, is regarded as the father of optic physics among Arabic/Islamic scholars. But reflection for Kaveh? Kaveh's name means "royal / of royalty" in Persian and I'm not aware there's an actual historical figure he's based off on, so it has nothing to do with reflections... which means... his whole concept is made to complement Al-Haitham's 👀
@@ibishum ik but they're half brothers or sworn brothers and basically shipping them is very much frowned upon becuz people consider them siblings even though they're technically not but to be on the safer side, siblings.
@@celestialarden they’re not even related at all, not even remotely! the only people who frown on it are chronically online people with nothing better to do than to find drama where there was no drama to begin with. it’s literally just as stupid as saying an age gap of 5 years is p*doph*lia or that dating/f**king anyone under 5’6 is p*doph*lia (all real things people have said btw, multiple times!) im not surprised tho since the majority of the genshin community is full of mouth breathing 14 year olds ready to pounce on anyone who says anything remotely negative about their favorite character as if they’re not just “000111010100100011” on a screen. i just hope they will use their one brain cell and figure that out and stop being the way they are. 🤷 what can you do tho
@@ibishum can't change people who've got their head stuck in that. It's really hopeless becuz they won't listen to a single word from anyone and I prefer to enjoy ships without getting into controversial debates with strangers online. Let people ship who they want except the kids.
@@ibishum they were still siblings at some point because thats how they see eachother, in the new archon quest kaeya claimed that dilucs dad was kaeyas adoptive father, adoptive siblings are still siblings
So i have a friend who s similar to alhaitham and he has a friend he doesn t like similar to kaveh. I askdd him: would you let him stay at you in your room if he has nowhere to go. And he replayed: wtf no. So again there is no reason for alhaitham to keep kaveh with him if there isn t something between them. Edit: well in alhaitham story 4 its said after a project he got the houss and kaveh didn t want his share. Is posible that alhaitham feels bad that kaveh left his half and cuz of this he took him in.
I like how Kaveh saying "We're not exactly friends" is taken as literally anything else than what he means. *The point was that their current relationship is a mess and that they used to be close.* The only (sort of) suggestive part of that sentence is not in his words, but that sideye Kaveh gives. Yet even then, the point he's making is that whatever relationship he had with Alhaitham (platonic or romantic) is currently ruined. If they were friends, now they're not. If they were boyfriends, now they're exes. If they were married, now they're divorced. He's saying things took a turn for the worse. And if you're a fan of this ship, take it more seriously, will you? Please...if you're gonna do this at least analyze the content correctly.
@@lechugster8648 I hope that's not your argument because several people are living together who aren't couples (or were living together). Genshin has no canon pairings, get that through your head. They wouldn't even let straight ships be canon so please get a grip 🙄
@@Razor3000-u3f I wasn’t so much saying that, rather I was replying to the part that implies they are no longer close when it is obvious that is not the case.
I don't understand why nagging constantly at each other was ever considered an "old, married couple" - sounds more like on the verge of a divorce to me and especially if it's over petty matters...or well...just people who can't tolerate each other. Not trying to break your ship, just saying I find it odd that incessant arguing at each other seems romanticized. This is coming from someone with a lover for 11 years and only argued 3-4 times at most lol
maybe most people view old married couple as either the one who constantly nag at each other or like the happy lovely one, but you can look at the Chinese and Japanese dub cause in these versions they just sounded more like bickering or poking each other since people were saying how the English version just made it seem like they are more towards the 'going to divorce couple'. also, I do not ship them HAHAHA I am not that kind of person who openly ships a lot. I just like to see the dynamic, but not romanticize what they do. plus, it is not like hoyo could give us like constant arguing of the two, but just enough to share with us that by default that is their dynamic :D
Then i think you should not base your reasoning only in your experience. Cuz the 'old married couple bickering' is something universal lol, like... it happens to a LOT of couples in multiple countries/cultures.
there's a difference between bickering because you're rivals and actually arguing because you hate each other, it's also how the EN VAs deliver their lines as well, if you listen to their CN lines they sound a lot less aggressive and they actually do sound like every other pair of old asian couple who nag at each other about trivial things
read the backstory of Alhaitham first. then you also know why alhaitham lets him live with him and why they are no longer friends. instead of saying some crap. which hasn't even been officially confirmed and isn't canon. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@cherryx7662 to be fair tho every character I’ve seen in genshin has been shipped with there best friend when they act like normal but when they act just a tad bit fruity then people say the ship is canon
Yeah, why are you like this? Do you have something against shipping two male together? I'm sure a lot of people read character stories. It's a fun thing(shipping)to do and since it's a Chinese game this kind of thing like gay relationships will never happen, they wouldn't do heterosexual one...
@@cherryx7662 I’m not mad about it just annoys me a bit I’m sorry if my comment sounded mad but I’m not it only annoys me and if you ship alhaitham and Kaveh that’s fine
Also, in Alhaitham's quest the last mission is called 'Pride and Prejudice". This is where we meet Kaveh. This can be a reference to Jane Austen's famous book, where the male protagonist (Darcy) is a very logical, socially awkward, introverted person. Elizabeth on the other hand is very emotional, and idealistic. They're the complete opposites of each other, just like Alhaitham and Kaveh.
WOAH THAT IS SO COOL ! THANKS FOR SHARING 🤍
also they get marriaged and hate each other at first afaik
yesss
Pride.... 🌈 😂❤️
AND THEY LOVE EACHOTHER
Kaveh: "Uh... I wouldn't say 'friend' exactly..."
( _I'm his boyfriend_ )
"...We used to be. But we're not anymore."
( _We're engaged for 5 f*cking years_ )
RIGHTTTT
dudes just waiting for either to pop the question rn
Alhaitham: dear, that's a horrible way of saying we're engaged.
...guys, even if you want to insist they're a romantic pair (and Hoyo does push that idea) y'all gotta be real for a second.
What Kaveh was saying is that they *WERE* much closer and now they're not. So if you want to understand them being "friends" as "lovers" then Kaveh essentially announces their (past and current) break up.
Y'all need to stop it with the nonsense. If it's a joke then fine, but if it's not...please be real.
At least there are Haikaveh fans who understand that they're basically a bitter divorced couple at this point (and that's only if they were ever a pair in the past, which is debatable).
@@Razor3000-u3f do you really think they're being 100% /srs?
Alhaitham: Me and Kaveh aren't friends anymore.
Kaveh: Babe, that's the worst way to tell people we're dating-
* few months later *
Haitiam and I aren’t dating anymore
Alhiatham: Kaveh, that’s the worst way to tell people we’re married-
STOPP that's so cute xDD
🤮
@@IlovenyancarLMAO HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURN
I swear hoyoverse knew what they were doing with those 2, they knew the whole fandom would end up saying that they're a married couple lmaoo even if people wanted to argue against it they have no proof that they *aren't* married
hoyo knows how to get us up
i like the part in the game when kaveh goes "aUahh... well- i wouldn't say, 'friends', exactly-"
kaveh: we’re not friends anymore
alhaitham: kaveh thats a terrible way to tell people we’re dating.
That sounds familiar...
Alhaitham: we're not dating anymore
Kaveh: alhaitham that's the worst way you could tell people we're married
@@Berries20 🤮
@@milenia117 🤠
“We used to be” yep right… that’s why you play cards together, stay together and wanna go on a trip together… yes yes makes sense
"we used to be". So I don't know if they broke up or got engaged XD
kaveh: once upon a time i married this akademia grandpa looking scribe... i regret it since he bullied my painting
Poor kaveh he just wants al haitham to say at least one good thing about him
But when he does, Kaveh doesnt believe him and thinks of it as sarcasm. 😢
kaveh: nagging wife
alhaitham: nonchalant husband
no one can change my mind
Why would I when I agree with you😂
REAL
FR
arguing all the time but still living together ohhhhhhhhhh married goal
fr like alhaitham could have just kicked him out
i feel like they may be exes just because of the ammount of fkn tension but them being secretly married for a super long time makes sense too
fr unless its they have a love-hate rs
1:22 the fact that they probably play music together is such a lovers/couples thing to do (two guitar-like instruments in the background).
Is that so? Why tho? Just curious
oh bruh I thought both the guitar's were haitham's HAHAHA
@@vera_light idk it just is. From my own experience and from my other musician friends, couples that own instruments always find time to do duets together. We usually play love songs, favorite songs, and disney classics. But you know, maybe it's just my group of friends, can't say for others though.
@@desert_rose888 wow that is cute
@@desert_rose888 Ooo interesting. Thanks for your story!
the way he says "we're not anymore" as in being friends is just so sus for me
I know they're not canon but this old married couple joke is really funny ahahahaha
joke? JOKE??? no no they really are married 100% i would never lie to you.
@@sheidakayn698 its officiall not confirmed 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@milenia117 it is confirmed and official, kavehaitham the true married couple💛
it is very much not a joke and is real
@@milenia117 people not understanding jokes on the internet part 274729472938372832883829283827283827382738282733
@@milenia117 what its official??? Woo congrats
I don’t usually ship but this is just cute af
yeah that is all right, I don't ship either HAHAHAHA I just find the dynamic funny, and entertaining
@@drheartnizer ikr! Btw really nice vid I love the dynamics that you put in
kaveh: well, we got married! but i dont like him!! hes such a douche
alhaitham: mm, yes, marriage
They have "your mom and dad usual verbal fight" aura NGL
and not just that if you read Al Haitham's mind using nahida you'd notice that he starts to care about the books kaveh keeps naging him about. and starts considering about cleaning them up, shows that he also cares about Kaveh's comfort they are THE GENSHIN SHIP
wow that is cute
I don't get homophobes, if you don't like gays, why click on gay videos and go to the full extent of leaving a comment?
Exactly, they’re always under these videos of kaveh and al haitham, they’re just homophobic as fuck
Because they can, that's why.
You're the ones who keep responding to them.
Stop feeding trolls!
Kaveh naggs like a mom 😭
the last part was so obvious
Yea true
Architect in debt becomes roommates with a rational scribe,lives to regret it...ENDING IS SHOCKING
Ahh I Love the Genshin Community at Times, thank you for that masterpiece
heh its my goal to make the games people love to play enjoyable, and I do that by making entertaining content 😌 thank you for the support 🤍
Video: trying to convince us that Kaveh and Alhaitham are in a relationship:
Me: my gaydar went off the moment I saw them interacting LOL
my gaydar went on
#9 they talk about each other so much that even their friends (and like everyone in Sumeru except these two) are convinced.
#10 Alhaitham is themed as a mirror whereas Kaveh is themed as a reflection.
#11 When Kaveh points out Alhaitham's dusty books, Alhaitham cares about this comment. This is big for someone who doesn't care about what others say.
#12 Alhaitham being a man of rationality has no logical reason for allowing/continuing to let Kaveh to stay at his place. He struggles to pay the rent and asks to be treated which adds to his debt, they get into disagreements alot, Kaveh isn't expected to do the housework it seems. I can only see this choice being out of sympathy/empathy and you can't convince me otherwise.
#13 Because OP said so.
P.s I would love to see Kaveh and Alhaitham when they were actually friends. How is it any different than what we see now? XD
woah nice analysis HAHAH
what is OP?
@@akseeo7 original poster
I imagined when they're friends they would've still argue like this. The only difference is that Kaveh would be able to proudly say that Haitham is indeed a friend to his other friends.
I understand why Al-Haitham theme is mirror... Ibn Al-Haitham, the actual scholar, is regarded as the father of optic physics among Arabic/Islamic scholars. But reflection for Kaveh? Kaveh's name means "royal / of royalty" in Persian and I'm not aware there's an actual historical figure he's based off on, so it has nothing to do with reflections... which means... his whole concept is made to complement Al-Haitham's 👀
He took “Never let them know your next move” to the next level
forget the childe and zhongli co op roleplays, once kaveh comes out i gotta see an alhaitham and kaveh co ops
If you play on the American servers, I'd be happy to~
Lmao why do they act like my parents
The thumbnail lmao 😭
I promised creativity, glad to know I delivered HAHAHAH
From leaks, kaveh named his robot briefcase as mehrak. Now i can't stop imagine them with their machine daughter😳
i can't stop to think about that if mehrak is part of the project kaveh did with alhaitham then it is their child for real
@@continuOs3advEnture Thank you for the new headcanon
The 'they're-not -siblings-and-you-can-ship-them' version of diluc and kaeya.
kaeya and diluc are not even siblings
@@ibishum ik but they're half brothers or sworn brothers and basically shipping them is very much frowned upon becuz people consider them siblings even though they're technically not but to be on the safer side, siblings.
@@celestialarden they’re not even related at all, not even remotely! the only people who frown on it are chronically online people with nothing better to do than to find drama where there was no drama to begin with. it’s literally just as stupid as saying an age gap of 5 years is p*doph*lia or that dating/f**king anyone under 5’6 is p*doph*lia (all real things people have said btw, multiple times!) im not surprised tho since the majority of the genshin community is full of mouth breathing 14 year olds ready to pounce on anyone who says anything remotely negative about their favorite character as if they’re not just “000111010100100011” on a screen. i just hope they will use their one brain cell and figure that out and stop being the way they are. 🤷 what can you do tho
@@ibishum can't change people who've got their head stuck in that. It's really hopeless becuz they won't listen to a single word from anyone and I prefer to enjoy ships without getting into controversial debates with strangers online. Let people ship who they want except the kids.
@@ibishum they were still siblings at some point because thats how they see eachother, in the new archon quest kaeya claimed that dilucs dad was kaeyas adoptive father, adoptive siblings are still siblings
Yeah, this proves my point. They are a married couple
I KNEW IT I KNEW ITTTTTTTTTTTT
Are you guys friends?
K: no we're not friends anymore...
A: Kaveh that's a horrible way to say that we're married...?
BRO? QUE ONDA CON EL FINAL XDDDD dios, Mihoyo se canso de disimular contra las leyes chinas
true. im mehrak
So i have a friend who s similar to alhaitham and he has a friend he doesn t like similar to kaveh. I askdd him: would you let him stay at you in your room if he has nowhere to go. And he replayed: wtf no. So again there is no reason for alhaitham to keep kaveh with him if there isn t something between them.
Edit: well in alhaitham story 4 its said after a project he got the houss and kaveh didn t want his share. Is posible that alhaitham feels bad that kaveh left his half and cuz of this he took him in.
It’s so true. Nice work on the video!
thank you I am trying to get better with every video 🤍
Jealous girlfriend esc
Obsessive ex
you having a jjba ending is what made me sub :3
Not people getting salty because of ship xD
Get a life and touch some grass.
As longs as the shippers don’t over do it it’s alright, isn’t it?
The shippers ALWAYS overdo it.
That's why they make fandoms so miserable.
House wife❤
We used to be friends, but not anymore? 😟 What happened?
they had a fight over a project they were working on and eventually had a fallout
they got married
They became husbands instead
they started dating
Fancy way of saying married 🤷🤷🤷🤣
Do people know that i live here and not on the streets?
The streets are Kaveh's natural habitat 😌
@@christmasitto1884 You know who else belongs on the streets? Sampo💀💀💀
@@suntailu88 lmao wut-
@@christmasitto1884 a character from Hoyo’s new game, Star Rail
@@suntailu88 ah i see
何を言ってるのか全く分からなかったけどこの2人が最高なのは分かった
解釈合ってるか分からないんですけど、2人が夫婦みたいに喧嘩しています 😂
I THOUGHT THEY EVER WANTED A CHILDLMAO
Witch one the guy that had an orange hair or a baby
@@skysfallingconspirisy6235 LMAOO “ THE GUY WITH THE ORANGE HAIR “ 💀
YEEE TOP ALHAITHAMM
why
Ya just like me fr
My eyes turned to cresents
Loves it 😊👍
Let the Geh in 🫶🫶🫶
Fun fact : This married couple is just like an Asian married couple. Their actions are just like the same🤣
Revisiting this beautiful video which let me find u ❤️
OMG ISTG this video just got lucky
I wrote a fanfic on how they get married
I like how Kaveh saying "We're not exactly friends" is taken as literally anything else than what he means.
*The point was that their current relationship is a mess and that they used to be close.*
The only (sort of) suggestive part of that sentence is not in his words, but that sideye Kaveh gives. Yet even then, the point he's making is that whatever relationship he had with Alhaitham (platonic or romantic) is currently ruined.
If they were friends, now they're not.
If they were boyfriends, now they're exes.
If they were married, now they're divorced.
He's saying things took a turn for the worse. And if you're a fan of this ship, take it more seriously, will you?
Please...if you're gonna do this at least analyze the content correctly.
Womp womp 😐👎
@@icedcappuchussy6969 Take your unreasonable behind elsewhere.
Why they live together 😏
@@lechugster8648 I hope that's not your argument because several people are living together who aren't couples (or were living together). Genshin has no canon pairings, get that through your head. They wouldn't even let straight ships be canon so please get a grip 🙄
@@Razor3000-u3f I wasn’t so much saying that, rather I was replying to the part that implies they are no longer close when it is obvious that is not the case.
HELP THE THUMBNAIL
only some of my spark moments
1:37 XD XDXDXD
I don't understand why nagging constantly at each other was ever considered an "old, married couple" - sounds more like on the verge of a divorce to me and especially if it's over petty matters...or well...just people who can't tolerate each other. Not trying to break your ship, just saying I find it odd that incessant arguing at each other seems romanticized. This is coming from someone with a lover for 11 years and only argued 3-4 times at most lol
maybe most people view old married couple as either the one who constantly nag at each other or like the happy lovely one, but you can look at the Chinese and Japanese dub cause in these versions they just sounded more like bickering or poking each other since people were saying how the English version just made it seem like they are more towards the 'going to divorce couple'.
also, I do not ship them HAHAHA I am not that kind of person who openly ships a lot. I just like to see the dynamic, but not romanticize what they do.
plus, it is not like hoyo could give us like constant arguing of the two, but just enough to share with us that by default that is their dynamic :D
I wanted to say I could've sworn I saw this comment already, but the video is 1 day old...
Then i think you should not base your reasoning only in your experience. Cuz the 'old married couple bickering' is something universal lol, like... it happens to a LOT of couples in multiple countries/cultures.
well english localization team is not entirely accurate, trust me, in chinese they sound a lot more like old married couple
there's a difference between bickering because you're rivals and actually arguing because you hate each other, it's also how the EN VAs deliver their lines as well, if you listen to their CN lines they sound a lot less aggressive and they actually do sound like every other pair of old asian couple who nag at each other about trivial things
damn they
Exactly, not friends, boyfriends
What ?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.???.???????.???.???.?.?.??.?.?.?.?.?.?.¿😊
xD
read the backstory of Alhaitham first. then you also know why alhaitham lets him live with him and why they are no longer friends. instead of saying some crap. which hasn't even been officially confirmed and isn't canon. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
damn why you mad and aggressive just because of a ship
@@cherryx7662 to be fair tho every character I’ve seen in genshin has been shipped with there best friend when they act like normal but when they act just a tad bit fruity then people say the ship is canon
Yeah, why are you like this? Do you have something against shipping two male together? I'm sure a lot of people read character stories. It's a fun thing(shipping)to do and since it's a Chinese game this kind of thing like gay relationships will never happen, they wouldn't do heterosexual one...
@@Zephyr-eg3mr ok and? everybody can ship what they want it's their opinion so why get so mad about it
@@cherryx7662 I’m not mad about it just annoys me a bit I’m sorry if my comment sounded mad but I’m not it only annoys me and if you ship alhaitham and Kaveh that’s fine
Bride kaevh 👰♂️🫃🌹
*kaveh
1:03 kaveh's face here is so cute