The way he can reflect bullets while jabbing is somehow hilarious yet so in-character for him 😂 Amazing showcase as always although I kinda wise you included Lycaon, Ellen, Lighter team
Great video, straight to the point, shows off a whole bunch of teams that are possible to use. Thank you for the showcases! 'm looking forward to pulling for Lighter
thanks so much for the long and detailed vids! all the calcs and info are presented in a super digestible way and i appreciate that a ton. i feel like a lot of “zzz” creators never actually know how to play and maximize character dmg but watching your rotations and gameplay is so satisfying.
Some things about Ellen and Soukaku. Ellen has an Ex2 which has a huge multiplier. Use it, especially in her burst combos. Ellen's BA3 (the kicked scissor spin) can be held for extra damage. Timer doesn't start until the enemy spawns, so on fights like Shiyu Defense where you start with energy, you can Ex twice with Soukaku in the starting area to pre-build stacks so you don't need to do it during the fight. That said, Soukaku is presumably on her sig. Remember that its combat atk buff is pretty short lived, so the strongest burst combo is to 99 a stun, then switch Soukaku in to Ex a few times for both vortex and to activate her sig's buff, trigger the stun with flag plant, then go straight into Ellen's chain-burst combo, so that her burst gets all of Soukaku's bonuses and you have a longer stun period for Ellen to go ham in. Using Soukaku's chain to pass the buffs almost always loses her sig LC's buffs because both their chain animations are so long (but admittedly is WAY easier and smoother to play), and the combat Atk buffs are significant enough that you really want them, especially for Ellen's ult.
Just a note that im not sure of but at 2:52 you manage to do a Defensive Assist while Lighter has above 80 Morale so it appears if you delay the parry late enough the Defensive Assist will take priority over Quick Assist.
I’ll probably run Lighter with the Ellen Joe team, Burnice team and the Caesar team for Tower. 😊I like the Dps Soukaku as well for off meta and non tower content😄Great video!
@@Dboi313x Lycaon is barely on-field when played optimally, and there are no buffs that Lighter introduces that profit Lycaon without also affecting Ellen, so I don't see why that'd change with Lighter. He's used for his debuffs, his damage output is dwarfed by the boatload of inherent Crit and Icedmg buffs that Ellen has
@@ProtoTypeFMgo watch the lighter tower video and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Lighter buffs ice and fire damage, also him and Lycaon shreds res. Meaning you can build Lycaon With more offensive stats
@@Dboi313x it'll still be a guaranteed damage loss compared to sticking with Ellen. You can build anyone for damage, doesnt change the fact that most of his skills pump his daze, not his damage. the few skills that do buff his damage also buff Ellens.
DPS Lucy that good is interesting. Wonder how it would run with a hyper carry Burnice and Lucy/Caesar support. NIce to know he's overall solid if not very flexable. Hoping he's got a good spot in a Miyabi team cause those elemental buff/shred are just nuts.
I would have wished for a Burnice dps carry team instead of lucy. Burnice does tons of damage with hold left click (you need to do it only once she continues until she has depleted all heat) until you have enough energy to hold EX and repeat - Burnice/Caesar/Lighter would have been a nice test.
i think dw if you arent proficient with certain agents, the point of the showcase is to show how different teams compares with or without lighter in it. You did like 1 mis-swap in the Ellen but thats about it. 1 thing you should consider in the future though, since now that we are getting more agents, wengines also can start to overlap, what if Lycaon uses the lighter wengine instead for example? He wont be able to trigger some effects effectively, but its not a complete loss and it would be interesting to see what other agents can do with it
Thank you for your vids. The burnice one helped me a lot and made my experience with the game much better. I'm trying to save for Miyabi, what are your expectations on her teams? What do you think it would be better as a teammate, Yanagi or Lighter? Thank you!
Yeah, he will be good since he adds a lot of extra ice and fire damage but the problem is I have to skip him because I want to get Miyabi and Ellen on her re-run 😂
I would like to have more informations about Hellfire Gears (since I have this weapon) - Do you gain 2 stacks if you do Lighter's whole EX special? (uppercut + followup attack/strike down) - With the ER it provides, can't you use his whole EX special everytime you switch to him? - If so, shouldn't/couldn't you go like: switch in > EX special > NA 5/ORA ORA Instead of switch in > NA5/ORA ORA > EX special So you gain the impact buff before unleashing the NA5/Star Platinium?
Yes we gain 2 stacks but most of the time we won't have enough energy to do it consistently. Switch in from Ex special resulting in starting the combo from start from NA 4 instead of 5 so it will take a bit longer but it's not much a problem from what i tested, and finishing Lighter's jab gives him bonus impact which is why it's preferred to use Ex Skill after his jab/NA5 if not using hellfire gears Although with all that said, Hellfire Gears still better than his free engine options even with different rotation
Pulling for a guaranteed Lighter and I only have Lucy and Soukaku. 💀 Guess he is benched until I get a fire or ice attacker. The extended stun duration is nuts, it's such a bummer he can't support Zhu Yuan.
I'm starting to subscribe to too many zzz channels because of banger informative videos like this one lmao. I hope you will have a Miyabi guide. Cheers
Have you tested lycoan with lighters weapon? Is it any good I want to see if I need lighter for when miyabi comes out but I don’t know if I want lighter and if it’s cheaper to just get his weapon without having to build up another character?
Thanks for the fast upload. Damn im on the fence... Do you expect that Miyabi gonna want Lighter? I love his character and athetics, and he is Billy succesor. (Big Billy main here) But i wanna go for Miyabi for sure and she needs her W-Engine if we don´t get another A-Rank for her. Current weapons are meh for her.
Have u tried him with Steam oven, For every 10 Energy accumulated, the equipper's Impact is increased by 2/2.3/2.6/2.9/3.2%, stacking up to 8 times. After Energy is consumed, this bonus remains for 8 more seconds. Lighter can use his Special twice in a row, maxing out 8 stacks, he would get at most 25,6% additional impact, higher than the Restrained shouldnt it be a lot better to use than the Fossilzed core?
Yeah since I dont have Ellen and I dont plan going for Miyabi, I have to make a DPS soukaku or DPS lycaon for ice dmg, which one is better for DPS? Also I dont have S11 nor Burnice for fire dmg, so gotta go with DPS Lucy, DPS Ben or DPS Lighter, who better?
14:55 How much worse is the damage of an Ellen, Lighter, Caesar comp compared to this team with Soukaku? I know Ellen can't activate her additional ability in this case and that she would also lose the 20% Ice Damage from Soukaku's as well (not to mention the 10% Ice Res Shred from her M4) _but then she would get anti-interruption, a shield and the 25% increase to damage dealt from Caesar's additional ability to compensate With Lighter's 75% Ice buff and her actual 40% innate Ice Dmg, the loss in actual damage can't be countered by Caesar's faster animations and ease of use that not having to dodge provide?
Honey wake up, Apel drop another banger showcases.
MAINTAINING THE S11 AGENDA IS THE TOP PRIORITY
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oh we will be pulling, trust and believe. thank you for the video
The way he can reflect bullets while jabbing is somehow hilarious yet so in-character for him 😂 Amazing showcase as always although I kinda wise you included Lycaon, Ellen, Lighter team
To the point content with essential pro/con comparison comment on each teams
Thank you for great informative content as always!!
Damn he actually looks fun and useful.
As always, love your team comp video and thank you!
Great video, straight to the point, shows off a whole bunch of teams that are possible to use. Thank you for the showcases! 'm looking forward to pulling for Lighter
Big fan of these showcases. Thanks for the work!
Thank you, Apel! I would subscribe more than once if I could. Appreciate all the value
So watching this entire thing twice. I learned that Burnice is fking BUSTED lol. Thank you Apel as always.
thanks so much for the long and detailed vids! all the calcs and info are presented in a super digestible way and i appreciate that a ton. i feel like a lot of “zzz” creators never actually know how to play and maximize character dmg but watching your rotations and gameplay is so satisfying.
I'm building my Soldier 11 now since I got her recently, and really excited to run Ellen/Lighter/Rina!
impressive and informative as always, thanks!
Waiting for a dps Lighter video soon 😼😼😼
Another upload from my goat, always love your stuff man.
3:03 BRROOO THAT STUN EXTENSION IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!
Some things about Ellen and Soukaku.
Ellen has an Ex2 which has a huge multiplier. Use it, especially in her burst combos.
Ellen's BA3 (the kicked scissor spin) can be held for extra damage.
Timer doesn't start until the enemy spawns, so on fights like Shiyu Defense where you start with energy, you can Ex twice with Soukaku in the starting area to pre-build stacks so you don't need to do it during the fight.
That said, Soukaku is presumably on her sig. Remember that its combat atk buff is pretty short lived, so the strongest burst combo is to 99 a stun, then switch Soukaku in to Ex a few times for both vortex and to activate her sig's buff, trigger the stun with flag plant, then go straight into Ellen's chain-burst combo, so that her burst gets all of Soukaku's bonuses and you have a longer stun period for Ellen to go ham in. Using Soukaku's chain to pass the buffs almost always loses her sig LC's buffs because both their chain animations are so long (but admittedly is WAY easier and smoother to play), and the combat Atk buffs are significant enough that you really want them, especially for Ellen's ult.
These types of videos are great! Hope you continue doing them for all future characters! Have a good day!
Very useful showcase! I planned on pulling for him regardless but this gave me a better idea of what to expect.
As always going above and beyond to test the new character
Thank u Apel :)
Thanks for this video, helped me make up my mind on passing the king this time around, i already have Cesear and i wanna start going for a miyabi team
The Soukaku teams are so sick... I'm hella excited for Lighter
Been waiting for you 😭😭😭
Thanks for the very detailed showcase and explanation!
Try Ellen Lighter Lycaon
2 stun unit useless btw
Just a note that im not sure of but at 2:52 you manage to do a Defensive Assist while Lighter has above 80 Morale so it appears if you delay the parry late enough the Defensive Assist will take priority over Quick Assist.
What do you think ELLEN + LIGHTER + LYCAON TEAM?
Strongest Ellen team.
Might be top teams in the game. Their buffs stack
@@revo5124 Ice RES reduction x2 plus extra ice damage boost.
THIS. I need to see someone showcase this team
replace ellen with ben and you have the best team
your content is so useful, thanks
Would love to see the double stunner team with Ellen, Lycoan and Lighter
Great video as always
Shit what he do for soldier is crazy imagine a limited fire dps
Great Lucy and solider 11 work with him I didn’t play during Bernice I wish I did
I really like the soundtrack .
Yeah, the first time i heard this in Yanagi, i was hooked.
Thank you, it's the ost played during 1.2 Tour the Inferno story.
It really fits on calydon members showcases
I’ll probably run Lighter with the Ellen Joe team, Burnice team and the Caesar team for Tower. 😊I like the Dps Soukaku as well for off meta and non tower content😄Great video!
I wonder if ellen lycaon and lighter can work together since their buffs stack
I was wondering that too, kinda bummed it's not in this vid, I was wondering how it compares to Ellen Lighter Soukaku
It does work and since you have lighter you can build Lycaon to be more of a sub dps. This team will be a lot better with the Ultimate changes coming
@@Dboi313x Lycaon is barely on-field when played optimally, and there are no buffs that Lighter introduces that profit Lycaon without also affecting Ellen, so I don't see why that'd change with Lighter. He's used for his debuffs, his damage output is dwarfed by the boatload of inherent Crit and Icedmg buffs that Ellen has
@@ProtoTypeFMgo watch the lighter tower video and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Lighter buffs ice and fire damage, also him and Lycaon shreds res. Meaning you can build Lycaon With more offensive stats
@@Dboi313x it'll still be a guaranteed damage loss compared to sticking with Ellen. You can build anyone for damage, doesnt change the fact that most of his skills pump his daze, not his damage. the few skills that do buff his damage also buff Ellens.
I REALLY wish he was released at a diff time cause I definitely would've pulled him :(
Oh well,.........rerun it is
same! I got Yanagi now I'm said I can't get Lighter :(
Pray to rngsus. I also went for yanabi, already farming pulls for a lucky shot.
@@l0ko368 wish you luck.
I think make Lighter dps is very cool 😣👍 Since I made my Lycaon dps too
Buffing that much fire+ ice mean you can swap the 5th disc on your dps for attk or pen ratio instead of the usual ice or fire disc.
Ah the best guide maker has dropped a new vid
Your soldier 11 is honestly cracked😭🙏
Thank you for this well-organised detailed video! Could you possibly share your Lucy's stat and drive's disc? Thank you!
DPS Lucy that good is interesting. Wonder how it would run with a hyper carry Burnice and Lucy/Caesar support.
NIce to know he's overall solid if not very flexable. Hoping he's got a good spot in a Miyabi team cause those elemental buff/shred are just nuts.
So like, can I run him as a DPS?
I love him a lot and also I think it would be fun to punchy punchy things
I would have wished for a Burnice dps carry team instead of lucy. Burnice does tons of damage with hold left click (you need to do it only once she continues until she has depleted all heat) until you have enough energy to hold EX and repeat - Burnice/Caesar/Lighter would have been a nice test.
i think dw if you arent proficient with certain agents, the point of the showcase is to show how different teams compares with or without lighter in it. You did like 1 mis-swap in the Ellen but thats about it.
1 thing you should consider in the future though, since now that we are getting more agents, wengines also can start to overlap, what if Lycaon uses the lighter wengine instead for example? He wont be able to trigger some effects effectively, but its not a complete loss and it would be interesting to see what other agents can do with it
Thank you for your vids. The burnice one helped me a lot and made my experience with the game much better.
I'm trying to save for Miyabi, what are your expectations on her teams? What do you think it would be better as a teammate, Yanagi or Lighter?
Thank you!
not me regretting not getting Ellen now cause with her I could run Lighter Ellen Lycaon, rip. Time to hope for a fun ice attacker to come next.
Pulling for Lighter, and the only character I have in this video is Soukaku💀
I think you can get Lucy for free from the Cheesetopia Event
No Ellen-Lycaon-Lighter team test? Sadge
Can’t wait for the voice reveal
dang looks fun to play but am too broke to pull 😭
Looks awesome but tough to justify having Lycon, Koleda, and Quingyi
Yeah, he will be good since he adds a lot of extra ice and fire damage but the problem is I have to skip him because I want to get Miyabi and Ellen on her re-run 😂
Can Lighter be played as a dps? I would very much like a showcase of that if possible
I would like to have more informations about Hellfire Gears (since I have this weapon)
- Do you gain 2 stacks if you do Lighter's whole EX special? (uppercut + followup attack/strike down)
- With the ER it provides, can't you use his whole EX special everytime you switch to him?
- If so, shouldn't/couldn't you go like:
switch in > EX special > NA 5/ORA ORA
Instead of
switch in > NA5/ORA ORA > EX special
So you gain the impact buff before unleashing the NA5/Star Platinium?
Yes we gain 2 stacks but most of the time we won't have enough energy to do it consistently.
Switch in from Ex special resulting in starting the combo from start from NA 4 instead of 5 so it will take a bit longer but it's not much a problem from what i tested, and finishing Lighter's jab gives him bonus impact which is why it's preferred to use Ex Skill after his jab/NA5 if not using hellfire gears
Although with all that said, Hellfire Gears still better than his free engine options even with different rotation
Pulling for a guaranteed Lighter and I only have Lucy and Soukaku. 💀 Guess he is benched until I get a fire or ice attacker. The extended stun duration is nuts, it's such a bummer he can't support Zhu Yuan.
Can i use steam oven on him? Is it better than the A rank w-enging you're using??
If I do pull for him I can only use him with soukaku and Lucy
sadly i don't have any ice or fire damage dealer but i want him so bad
thank you
It’s funny how they made him for miyabi cause what’s the point of ice shred
I'm starting to subscribe to too many zzz channels because of banger informative videos like this one lmao. I hope you will have a Miyabi guide. Cheers
Is this team good?
Lighter
Piper
Lucy
I also have Red Muccus as the Bangboo
Man I really want him 😢
But probably can't get him no poly left
Have you tested lycoan with lighters weapon? Is it any good I want to see if I need lighter for when miyabi comes out but I don’t know if I want lighter and if it’s cheaper to just get his weapon without having to build up another character?
No yanagi/burnice/lighter?
In theory since lighter increases burnices burn dmg it should increase the disorder dmg while enemy is burned?
Thanks for the fast upload. Damn im on the fence... Do you expect that Miyabi gonna want Lighter? I love his character and athetics, and he is Billy succesor. (Big Billy main here)
But i wanna go for Miyabi for sure and she needs her W-Engine if we don´t get another A-Rank for her. Current weapons are meh for her.
Nah miyabis gimmick is that she apparently needs disorders to charge her gimmick.
Hes usable, his buffs are universally good for all ice units, that said you might have problems activating their additional ability
Miyabi/Lighter/Lucy mebbe?
hm, why does parry assist take priority around 13:22? lighter should have 80 already at that point right? Is there like a start up time to it?
Have u tried him with Steam oven,
For every 10 Energy accumulated, the equipper's Impact is increased by 2/2.3/2.6/2.9/3.2%, stacking up to 8 times. After Energy is consumed, this bonus remains for 8 more seconds.
Lighter can use his Special twice in a row, maxing out 8 stacks, he would get at most 25,6% additional impact, higher than the Restrained
shouldnt it be a lot better to use than the Fossilzed core?
Yeah since I dont have Ellen and I dont plan going for Miyabi, I have to make a DPS soukaku or DPS lycaon for ice dmg, which one is better for DPS?
Also I dont have S11 nor Burnice for fire dmg, so gotta go with DPS Lucy, DPS Ben or DPS Lighter, who better?
From your type of video i kinda confuse to focus on the text or the video 😅
"Don't be afraid to take some hit"
Nah I'd dodge
because it's death otherwise
Just wait until Miyabi comes out and then test out with Lighter. XD
What is better:
Ellen + Lighter + M6 Soukaku
Or
Ellen + Lighter + Lycaon
14:55 How much worse is the damage of an Ellen, Lighter, Caesar comp compared to this team with Soukaku?
I know Ellen can't activate her additional ability in this case and that she would also lose the 20% Ice Damage from Soukaku's as well (not to mention the 10% Ice Res Shred from her M4) _but then she would get anti-interruption, a shield and the 25% increase to damage dealt from Caesar's additional ability to compensate
With Lighter's 75% Ice buff and her actual 40% innate Ice Dmg, the loss in actual damage can't be countered by Caesar's faster animations and ease of use that not having to dodge provide?
Does Lighter's Signature have a noticible different if used on Lycaon?
Gonna do s11, lighter, caeser if rng loves me im getting m1 lighter
still think his animations are way too good and should have been an attacker unit. that shoryuken with a downwards slam deserves 400k damage
Do you guys think it's worth it for me to get him for my Ellen, or keep it saving for Miyabi? I'm in pity 50 guaranteed and on the W banner too
Is it possible to switch Caesar with Ben M6 in S11 team? Such as: S11 - Lighter - Ben?
wait, you can get 75% fire ice bonus at Cinema 0? or C6?
He is fire
What about using him to extend the additional stun multiplier from lycaon or qingyi?
What about piper? Is piper lucy not good? I was planning to run piper lucy cuz i dont have soldier 11.
How is burnice built on the S11 Ligther Burnice?
Its kinda like off-field stuner
I stay strong for miyabi! 😅😅😅
can u compare team lighter and without lighter in team, ex.
S11+ceasar+lucy vs. S11+lighter+lucy?
can u try a meme comp? like make lighter a DPS
He looks amazing but like, Miyabi and stuff.
if i had soldier 11 i would get him..
8:12 ❤❤❤
How about Ellen Rina Lighter. Is this good ?
i have the Koleda engine and i intend to use it on him, wdym the playstyle is ankward?
Can you make Lighter dps pls 😭🙏🙏🙏
What do you think of dps lighter apel?
So will he be good with miyabi also?
Niceeee
Double stunner testing?
I get shy around apel 👉👈🥺