I spent 12 hours TIGHT LACED in a Corset 💥
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I think one of the things that makes tight-lacing uncomfortable is that things like modern furniture (or car seats) are not designed to accommodate the sort of posture tight lacing requires. My parents have a Victorian sofa and by todays standards it is unyielding and uncomfortable cause you can't slouch on it, but it would be perfect for sitting upright in wearing a corset. Also, I'd love to see some videos on your house decorating/renovation - I'm weird and I LOVE watching people hang wallpaper!
Renovation/decorating videos are coming soon! I'm so close to being finished with my studio 😭
@@AbbyCox Can't wait to see what you come up with.
I have a Victorian chair and it is the best chair in the house when I am corseted.
Sounds like Victorian furniture would be nice for having good posture, now I kinda want some cause the stuff I use encourages bad posture
I never understood how straight backed chairs were ever popular until I tried wearing stays. My super comfy couch is super uncomfortable when I wear my stays, but a straight backed chair is actually comfortable
When you talk about having a softer abdomen, it makes clear why actrecess have so much trouble: they are (usually) already very thin, they have no fat, they workout to keep the body that the industry requiers, so, for them, tight lacing is probably very unconfortable, because there is bearly anything to tight.
For sure, and add that most (especially extras and minor characters) are probably wearing off-the-shelf corsets that don't even fit, laced too tight, and most probably don't have the power on set to complain about their costume. They might not even know it's not supposed to hurt. And then they'll have long shooting schedules that can easily go 10-12+ hours, with a lot of sitting around and waiting. It's a recipe for disaster and no wonder it's such a trope, even though historically people wore corsets with no issues.
I think we should also acknowledge that most of them are probably not wearing the right undergarments to make the experience more comfortable. We’ve repeatedly seen Hollywood make actresses wear corsetry against their bare skin, for example-we know that they weren’t meant to be worn this way, but they sure don’t!
In comparison, Victorian ladies would have been quite plump, because that was what contemporary medicine thought healthy.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Hollywood starlets don't have any squish to lace down.
Which makes it even more ridiculous that these very thin people are being forced to tightlace. They are already tiny!
I'm an opera singer and can confirm that it's possible to do almost anything in a corset. I ballroom dance. Obviously sing opera. Eat. Walk. Sit around. Bend. It's fine. I actually love the constricted feel on my ribs when singing. It gives me something to breathe against.
Okay I have always wondered how people can sing opera in corsets. I studied voice in college (never got to a full opera voice but I'm okay with that) and if my dress is just a little too tight around the middle, I'm uncomfortable. My choir sometimes wore these laced vests that (because they were ill fitting) often became pseudo tight-laced corsets, and there were a couple girls who feinted from it. Where do you put your air?
@@rosekopelowitz5069 I'm not sure about OP, but I just breathe higher up in my lungs instead of down by my stomach. I find corsets to be a bit comfier and easier to breathe in than modern bras because the pressure is more even and it rests on your hips instead of squeezing your chest, but at the end of the day its always nice to take either off 😅
@@rosekopelowitz5069 chest and up instead of down into your belly
I love singing in mine, the resistance helps so much with breath support. I wear mine with compression on the belly but no squeeze on the ribs (it just sits like a shell around/against my chest) so I have plenty of room to breathe.
Yes! Singers ask me about corsets all the time and I compare it to a weightlifting belt. Caruso was a big advocate of the corset in singing.
I think one of the reason actresses find it uncomfortable is that they go from never having worn a corset to having to wear one for long hours. I think the posture required is exhausting at first. It depends what your natural posture is like but if you sit slumped or slouch a lot, the corset will not let you do that. Then there are all the issues: overly tight lacing, poor fit for costume corsets, and wearing them without a protective underlayer, all of which are very common in historical dramas. I was once at a Jane Austen event with Whit Stillman, who directed Love and Friendship and he said, "oh filming in England on historical dramas is easy. You just have everything rented and there are these companies that do every movie and they really know what they are doing with the details so I don't have to think about it." And it's like dude, first of all that explains why the costumes were so shit in that movie and second of all why don't you try walking ten miles in a pair of rented bowling shoes. See how you feel afterward.
Love this comment! Yes and I am sure that the corsets used by these companies are not well fitted to the actress. They are also probably being laced far too tight. Someone who has never worn one shouldn't be lacing super tight to begin with.
Lol
Keeping the posture can definitely be exhausting. I used to wear corsets all the time, but I have gotten out of it. Now, when I wear one, I have to take a break after a few hours to 'reset' my posture. I've really become a slouchy gremlin over the last couple of years.
Very true. It would be a bit like not wearing heels your entire life and suddenly wearing them 10+ hours a day. I used to wear heels to work every day without issue and now I can barely balance in anything over 3" because it's been 5+ years since I've had to wear them at all.
"Don't eat fried chicken when you're tight laced in a corset". Wiser words have never been spoken 😂😂😂 Gonna keep that in mind, thanks Abby
Also, avoid spicy food. I have definitely had corset influenced reflux.
also, sushi. the rice wants to expand!
Memo:
Tight lacing = good for standing, walking and looking and feeling pretty ✨️
Normal lacing = good for doing anything else and still look and feel pretty✨️
(though a lot of bending might not work that well. Haven't tried playing handball with one yet 🤔)
I think that’s what athletic corsets were designed for!
Have you seen RUclipsr SnappyDragon's videos on Hollywood's attitudes to corsets (She's got at least two that I know of)? I think you might enjoy them, if not.
@@CapriUni oh yeah, SnappyDragon, Opus Elenae, Pretty Shepherd,Bernadette Banner, and so many more!
Makes sense that tight lacing would be good for standing, walking and looking pretty, as it probably would have been done for evening dress aka balls and similar events, where you would go to look pretty, and dance at the time required straight back and little to no bending.
Context is so important. Especially in historic dress. I'm chanikng the experiences actresses have with corsets to not educated enough costumers, and execs not caring enough what costumers were saying aka bigger budget for proper corsets and padding etc. Also not properly broken in corsets as well.
Having worn corsets for over 20 yrs (as an aging goth) and lacing down to somewhere between 4 and 7 inches, I can say I’ve done most things relatively easily in a corset and have definitely done longer than 12 hours. The hardest by far is putting your shoes on (BBC - boots before corset!) and driving.
I also read that 19th century ladies put their shoes on before putting on the corset. So even they had their adjustments to their dress routine.
Former dancer here. Corsets were a big part of my club wardrobe, and I wore them for hours at a time. Sometimes 12-16 hours. They become a second skin after a while. I can absolutely relate to your comment.
I think the victorians had special short chairs specifically designed to put your shoes on while wearing a corset. I’ve always wondered how it helped, I guess it lets you stay more upright while bringing your feet closer to your hands, but standing up again seems like it would be hard 😅
Any tips on how to figure out the proper corset fit for someone? I've been fascinated by corsets for years but I've always been so intimidated by them too!
@@joyhartman330 Lucy's Corsetry here on YT has a lot of practical info about wearing corsets, and also Orchard Corsets, which is a company making/selling affordable (but not cheap) corsets for many different body types. They have very detailed videos on body types and which corsets will fit them. I've found them very helpful figuring out what I needed. Mind, though, they are talking modern corsets, not historical ones.
I’m glad you mentioned the different body types - I have a very short torso and there is literally not enough room between my bottom rib and the top of my hip (about 1” if I’m lucky) there is no physical way I could tight lace 😂😂
This! I’m the same way. They had to alter the boning in my wedding dress because they were too long and dug into my hip bones.
Same! Also my rib cage is narrower at the underbust which is just so fun 😂 part of which might be like the skeletal version of an overbite, either my ribs had to be wider at the bottom than normal otherwise they would be knocking against my hips all the time
Yes! I can't really get much reduction at all. I have a relatively short torso and not soft/yielding torso. So every time I've worn corsetry I **maybe** get laced down an inch.
Plus sized, short torso. Absolutely zero off the rack corsets fit me. Was in pain no matter how loose the lacing. Until I made my own corset, I never knew comfort in corsetry. Doubt I’d ever be able or want to tight lace, but I can wear my new corset all day and it’s extremely comfortable plus I have free back support. I suspect film star complaints arise because they have been squeezed into I’ll-fitting corsets rather than bespoke, and then tight-laced because they don’t know any better.
Same. I don't compress. My pelvis is literally an inch below my ribs. I can't find a commercial corset that fits me at all.
I’m a corset maker and I cannot tight lace for even a few minutes, it immediately makes my legs and back shoot pain-assuming because I’m bony and it’s pressing on my literal sciatic nerve😂 padding is definitely my go-to to look curvier. Thanks for trying it though, I did enjoy it!
I once wore one of the longer corsets laced firmly and it made my legs go numb for I am pretty bony and getting it tight enough that it was not just wandering of ment heaving it press onto the bone.... No struggles with any other typ and up higher I can tightlace without an issue...
Where do you recommend getting a corset?
I love how you decided to just show how it’s not harmful to be in a good corset for 12 hours. In your chipper, “See! I’m not falling over with the vapors, and I have the research to back me up.” Thanks for this wonderful vlog.
For one day. Even wearing an ordinary modern belt in your jeans will cause you to lose some muscle tone if you do it all day every day. Hell, even Bernadette Banner said straight out that constantly wearing her corset caused weakness in her core muscles that even her making extra effort to exercise them didn't correct.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I’ve done week long camping events being in a corset and didn’t feel like I lost core strength. I’m just me, and we’d camp nearly every weekend dressing up. We played with a historical group so it was period, and it’s just my opinion.
@@mza2195 One week isn't months on end. You probably also weren't forced into a poorly fitting corset & you were probably the one in charge of how tight the lacing was. Actors on a set, unless they're at household name level, are not.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I have no desire to argue with a stranger on the internet. I’m sure even extras in set have some say in how tight they are laced in. No costume designer wants to be known as the one who caused multiple actors to faint.
‘Nothing better than a post-corset itch’ I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME
IT FEELS SO GOOD
It is the best feeling lol
Reminded me of the post-bra itch or the relief of taking off your pants after 8 hours out and about.
It feels like melting in a nice way when you take it off even if it feels fine and kept your back from complaining!
@@lenabreijer1311 yes! its good melting! though i find that it hurts a little to take a corset off, in a good way though. its probably just because I've gone back to my terrible uncorseted posture 😅
There’s a really early video of a lady undressing (1890’s iirc) and she absolutely does the satisfying post corset scritch
The visible belly pouch under the bottom of the corset made me so happy. The clothes that typically go over these undergarments flare out at the waist, and that extra padding lends itself to creating the fashionable silhouette. The corset pushes the fat down, it doesn't make it disappear! Normalize under-corset belly pouches. I think they're cute. I get it too when I'm wearing a corset, and I don't tight lace (it's not my thing lol). I was happy with the way you discussed bodies and how corsets affect them. Hooray for belly pouches!
Great observation! Are you familiar with the painting called "Nana"? It shows an opera singer mid dress and shows the under belly pooch you speak of. I use the image as my wallpaper because it reminds me how normal it was back then. This gorgeous and desirable woman who does not have a stick figure. Cheers!
I think a lot of the discomfort that the actresses feel is because the corsets aren't made to their body types. But thank you for proving that tight lacing is possible and that movement in tight lacing is also possible.
Yes. And not wearing the corset upside down helps too.
I wear corsets regularly to help with my Ehlers-Danlos. I’ve also worn them in theater productions, and as a dancer for 16 hour days.
Thank you for showing that proper corsetry isn’t the limiting factor here. Perhaps we should be looking at what’s being asked of these actresses, whose beauty standard already puts them in a category less likely to tight-lace well. The corset isn’t the enemy, it is only a tool. Thanks for the vlog with extra puppy time! 💜💜💜
I have hEDS and have been contemplating making a corset to help with my posture and back pain due to my slouching. The more comments from people in the EDS community I see about corsetry, the more I really think it might be a good fit for me.
Interesting! I have hEDS as well - do you mind me asking what aspects of your EDS the corset helps with?
This makes so much sence to me .
I took to corsetry like a duck to water almost 20 years ago and it changed the game for me on everything and im now currently being bounced around like my 10th pain clinic because no one WANTS to do a EDS diagnosis and pain clinics do not do diagnosis but my gp just thinks if i can put my thumb on my arm is a " yah , it looks like it but you will have to be diagnosed by a pain specilest and then i go off to do ANOTHER pain clinic where they do not diagnos but their happy to have an opinion of me having it but will not go through the critia to do a real diagnosis and send me back to my gp to do this all again 12 months later..
Ive actully printed off the critica and hand it the the pain specilest abd said " today we are going though this !" The only thing i cant do is all the fingers at the sane time 90% or greater and there is no history in my family because no one can pin down a dr to bloody get one but my mothers side of the family are from a circus background and my mother was a professional contortionist at the age of 6 abd im supper hypermobile even in my almost 50s ... months away .
Back in my goth daze i was corsted all the time and it was a help not a hindrance.
And i still wear knee and elbow braces with boning in them to stop me from over extending regularly so still partisapate in sports end dance.
Ive been told by way to many physiotherapist ( may be 6 ) that im never to take up yoga as id tie my self in a knot befor i relized im in trouble.
The pain clinics dont knos what to do with me and it always turns in to a game of " i bet you cant do this crazy shit" with the physio therapist by week 3 of the 12 week programme .
I got into good quality corsets about two years ago and found out by accident that it really helped with my CFS! The concerns I would hear from people when I said I'd started wearing corsets was usually about muscle atrophy, but I've actually gone the opposite way.
The corset acts as like an exo-skeleton, supporting the weight of my upper body so my abdomen muscles aren't instantly exhausted and then in pain for days on end. I'm now able to stand for long periods of time without the corset and even climb full sets of stairs on very very good days. That would have been impossible before!
I originally bought a chest binder to act as a thunter blanket for myself on my bad anxiety days. But then I realized that Corsets do the same thing. So I tight lace on my anxiety days and it makes me feel so much more secure.
probs better for you too, as a trans man, binding literally does make it hard to breathe and do everyday activities. messed up
It can definitely feel like a hug. Like something is holding you up and in, so you're able to relax
I've used corsets for this same purpose for years
I find myself yelling at the screen when someone says how dangerous corsets were, thanks to the educational videos from you and Bernadette! 😅
This was great! Maybe write a letter to Variety magazine, (the Hollywood people read that religiously), and explain that if the corsets are a problem, it is because they are doing it wrong! Explain your educational background and how they are doing it wrong. Refer them to this video. Maybe they just don't know b/c they don't do historical research!!! Nothing wrong with a corset, especially for a period piece that needs them for the dress to look correct. You go Abby!!! My Paternal Grandmother wore a corset her entire life (after 14), and she was born in the late 1800's. She had the best posture of anyone I ever knew and walked with a dignity I always admired. She had 7 sisters and they all wore them everyday. Set them straight Abby. I know you can do it!!!
I'm pretty sure the costume designers are well aware of this. I'm pretty sure they try, but budgets of time and money just don't allow for it. I think if I was an actor who did period performances, I would invest in appropriate undergarments and write it into my contracts that I got to use them.
@@jackieknits61 That's a great idea! Thanks for the reply.
They'll reply with period articles (that are themselves little more than feminist propaganda) and tell her "well, we've spent decades researching this with dozens of people and you're wrong because....."
The big magazines and Hollowweird don't care about truth. They care about money, and the corset myths sell.
The issue with different bodies responding differently is an important topic, and even if a body is typically more biased to being tightlaced or not, I believe it's good to check what one's own limits are. I found that, despite being very short-waisted and with next to no fluff, I can lace down 4 inches no problem (my floating ribs yield easy).
The post-corset itch is heaven.
I would love to see more data on the subject of individual body shape vs how easily a person can tightlace. I have an average waist length I think, and am quite slender, but I can corset down quite a bit. I think this might be because I have a boxy figure. My natural waist is only 5 inches smaller than my bust.
@@wanderingspark one factor is how muscular you are, I am not at all so being tall I can lace down cute a bit without even noticing despite being between slender any bony
@@wanderingspark My natural measurements were 40/32/41 before I had kids, with a naturally short torso (approx 2 fingers-width between bottom of ribs and top of pelvis). That has since changed to 42/40/43. However, I went in to get measured and purchase a corset, and they measured me at a 36. That's already a 4" reduction. Were I to fully tight-lace, that reduction could probably drop to 6" or even 8". But that would require a corset that is too small for me, and I don't own any that don't fit in the waist. (Length on the other hand... *scowls*)
Genuinely laughed like a drain at "release the KRAKEN". This was a really fun watch, thank you so much!
I have never said that out loud but I think of that every time I take off my bra! Which by the way are usually very uncomfortable and corsets are not, I have more dents after taking off a bra than a corset (cause underwire is a biotch!).
One of my favorite parts of the past few videos is seeing the different objects Abby uses as a microphone handle.
I realized the modern velcro boned back brace I have is very much like an underbust corset - and I use that thing when I am out shoveling snow because it is way better than doing it sans back brace. It gives so much more support for the activity! (that post corset stretch and scratch was so satisfying to watch... like yeeeessssss I felt that relief).
I wore a back brace like that several years ago for work and I really liked the support. I didn't want to turn it in when I quit. Perhaps that's why I find corsets so comfortable.
Thanks for the reminder... now I have to go find a good back brace for those times when a corset isn't practical. 😊
@@lajoyous1568 maybe just a corset without a metal busk? like a one without a centre front opening.
Have you watched Bernadette's video on the subject? She actually compares it to her scoliosis brace. It's fascinating. (If you see any comments from me, please understand I was in a place of confusion & frustration because when you're buying a corset or even a back brace "off the rack", no one tells you that the chances they'll fit your body shape are pretty slim unless you're already a "standard size"... so I felt lied to by everyone who was so positive about corseting and tight lacing.)
@@saritshull3909 I imagine that might be difficult to get into unassisted. I believe it is time to research/shop 😁
@@Chaotic_Pixie Yes! I found that video fascinating. And yeah, not being a standard size is a good reason to make your own corset - that way you can lengthen or shorten as needed. The back brace I have has enough elastic that it molds realy well, so even if it is slightly too tall for me, it isn't BAD.
I have dressed in living history clothing, with wearing a corset, for years. The only times I have been uncomfortable, is when I was wearing corset that was to small or to big; when I was trying to drive a vehicle or if I was laced up way to tight. If a person wears a corset correctly they are very comfortable.
I have hypermobility which includes my ribs occasionally wanting to shift from their normal position and tight lacing feels SO good. The compression mixed with support is amazing and it doesn't roll or slide like the over the counter back braces you can get. I definitely use one when I know I'm going to have to be standing a lot because the support is necessary at this point.
Yeah unfortunately I'm one of those people with a very short torso and a slender upper body, so there's very little waist reduction I can achieve with corsetry. If I try to tightlace I'm basically just squishing ribs, and I suspect some of those "corsets are hell" actresses are the same. There's no point in trying to reduce when there's nothing to reduce!
I wish I could get more dramatic shaping, but my body just isn't suited to it, so I need to make some bust and hip padding to help make up the difference.
The corset Abby is wearing (model W by Atelier Sylphe) has a dramatic hip spring and can replace hip paddings (or host them and maybe bust improvers). It's not necessarily meant to tight lace.
Bernadette has shown how slim women used the corsets - as excellent posture support and a place to put the bust and hip padding. :) I love Abby's emphasis that historically, if you didn't have the "pretty" body shape, the underclothes gave them to you.
I recommend checking out Nicole Rudolph's channel if you haven't already. She also has a short torso and a waist that won't squish, and she has done some great videos about achieving period silhouettes.
@@wanderingspark Shed got some great videos! I especially love her one that shows how different corsets or stays manipulate her shape.
Really good, Abby, thanks! If you do have to drive while in a corset you could try a wedge shaped cushion - it alters your posture to a more comfortable, more upright one. I don't wear corsets, but I do have back issues, and a wedge cushion has been a life saver for me! (You put the higher edge of the cushion to the back, it thus helps counteract that bucket shape of car seats)
This sounds so smart. I hate most car seats and I think I might need to try this. My instinctive posture when I’m driving is to sit forward and super upright. My driving instructor would always push the front of my shoulders so I’d lean against the seat, but sitting back like that for a long period of time (or sometimes a short period if the seat is really bad and unadjustable) makes my back so sore 😢
@@jennagrace1534 You should definitely try one, so much more comfortable! x
A bespoke and well seasoned corset on an experienced body is very different than tight lacing an off the rack corset on someone inexperienced with corsetry. (Which happens regularly in shows)
That being said, I think their reasons for banning corsets is ridiculous and not based on fact at all.
I love everything you do Abby!
The article on 'banning' corsets comes from a tabloid and was basically just scandalised rumourmongering. There's no indication from reputable sources that Netflix or other production companies were going to ban corsets.
It would be really cool to see how different types of corsets influence how they feel after 12 hours(ie: the pretty housemaid style corset vrs. a edwardian corset vrs a modern underbust etc.)
First: I'd always wondered about this very thing.
Second: modern furniture was definitely not made for corsets
Third: I want your Gossip mug
Ditto on 2 and 3
Yessss the mug!
I am proud of you for facing some fear with the power tools. That’s not easy in normal circumstances and you did it in a corset, even though you got this. Looking forward to your studio reveal in the coming months.
I absolutely adore what you do! Your, Morgan's and Bernadette's videos make me feel like I MUST try wearing a corset - it does seem to be rather comfy when it's not brutally tight-laced, and it looks SO good.
That's one well organized kitchen. With well organized cupboards.
I realized that it's better for my brain to lean heavily into very organized because if I things don't have homes, things just exist on counters and in chaotic piles. 🙃
I would love to see a collab of different fashion historians and/or others sharing their experience with a tightly laced corset like you did here. I think you did a fabulous job sharing what it's like to wear a tightly laced corset.
This is such a great revisit of Abby’s old video(s) about wearing historical clothes for work ❤
I think a lot of the comfort issues you had was with the type of corset and the types of activities you did. Shannon Makes did a sports corset and then did her circus stuff and she talked about it at length. This was a fantastic video and I’m glad you were honest about your experience. It would have been so easy to just say, “Yeah, I was comfortable all day and that’s that!”
I’m obscenely long torsoed and squishy, I’ve never had an issue with tight lacing, in fact I often feel bad after taking it off cause the support for my chest and back is such a relief. And that’s with purchased off the rack type corsets as well as handmade by me. The only time I’ve ever had pain was because a bone popped out and tried to stab me 😅 it’s such a ‘your mileage may vary’ garment
Something i noticed about corsets is that id rather spend the day moving around a lot in one. If im going to be in a car or at the computer its not gonna be fun, if im walking around (especially if i can see my silhouette 😉) its actually comfortable.
I loved this! Loved that you talked about your own preferences and biases too. It's super helpful to see what actual activities you can do comfortably and not so comfortably. There's way too much "corsets are totally comfortable"/"corsets are torture" content that doesn't acknowledge that comfort is subjective.
And on a video note: this just drew me in! I just clicked on it to check it out and watch it later, but your voice over at the beginning was so enchanting and here I am on the sofa 15 minutes later haha. Well done 👏
Pah! I wore Elizabethan corsets for 16 hours a day and drove in them as well.
I love corseting! In my late 20s and early 30s, I did the whole Neo-Ed thing and corseted every day for two years. I'm heading into the full-time historical dress again, Soon (TM). While I love the feeling of taking off my corset at the end of the day, it is the same feeling as taking off a bra. I love the school day analogy. And I'm sure it's the same feeling our foremothers felt. I think, as soon as I have enough of my 1870-90s wardrobe done, I'll have to make an "I wore X for a week" video. You know, picking up my four-year-old, doing housework, walking the neighborhood, etc.
Love your username 😁
OMG HI!
I'm in the middle of catching up your videos that I missed (chronic illness induced depression is super fun)
and now i get to watch this one right on time! 😍😍😍😍😍
I’ve been working on loosening and strengthening my lower back in PT.I can tell a difference in my posture already and modern furniture is already becoming a hassle.
how so?
@@indiefairy09 Having something something that is solid and upright gives me something to support myself on. Most pieces are made for more of a lounging posture.
Excellent vlog. I did not realize that sitting in the car (or sitting in general) would be a problem. Do you have any thoughts about riding a stagecoach with a corset?
Thst would be fine cause the seats were designed to accommodate women’s clothing then. Plus you wouldn’t be tight laced anyways - esp traveling long distances lol. Antique furniture is always 100x more comfortable than modern furniture in corsetry lol
@@AbbyCox Just learned another fact about living in a corset. Abby, this is one of your best.......
So I used to tight lace for 2 years. From 36 to a 34in waist. I also was wearing a custom made corset, so it was really well fit, which most actresses r not in custom corsets. That's a bad on the production company, not the corset though!
Finding a car that wasn't designed for slouch is a complete impossibility. Even without a corset on, I can't slouch without my back killing me at the end of the day and it's absolutely disgusting that I can't put my head rest in my car where it needs to be without pushing my head forward. Sorry about the rant there. It kind of spiraled
@@samanthapettibone3955 I have the same problem with car head rests! Especially if I have my hair up. It is not comfortable to drive with your head pushed forward. My car now I can get away with having my hair down, but borrowing cars I usually need to take off the head rest even with hair down.
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Same. I adjust my posture with a firm pillow in my back, when I drive for more then 30 minutes. It allows me, to keep my back straight and somewhat solves the weird 'head pushed forward' problem. No idea, why headrests are designed like that!
Absolutely obsessed with the meme of Abby attaching her mic to everything *but* her lapel 😂
When I saw those articles at the time, I remember thinking "Oh boy, Abby is gonna make a video about this!" XD
There's an extended session of the Catherine DeMedici Time Travel Club on this very topic! :D
Thank you for your honesty. I have worn various types of "corsets" (I am using this term for all of this type of undergarment). I have never been a fan of restrictive clothing, especially in the torso, but a properly fit corset is much more comfortable than any bra I have ever worn. Actually, I do re-enactment with the SCA and after being garbed for a weekend of so I hate putting my regular clothes back on, because my garb is so much more comfortable.
I think you proved your point; the problem is not with the corset. It is time for the actresses who are having problems to speak up for themselves. If they're planning on doing a period play/movie/ series, they should get a corset and live with it for a day; if it gives them a problem, they should see a seamstress and see what they say. The producers making sure they have a historically skilled fitting wouldn't hurt either. Making sure to have the appropriate seating for the waiting that is a part of creating entertainment would also help.
I love that you have talked about body shape and "squishability" with regards to tightlacing. I think that's one thing the "media" and film industry misses - if you are already skinny as a twig of course it is going to hurt to attempt to reduce your waist.
As someone who wears a corset everyday the post corset itch is EVERYTHING 😭😭😭
From my own personal experience wearing a corset, the first time I ever wore a corset, a certain family member decided to tight lace my waist down five inches. That was the most painful experience I have ever had in my life. After wearing that from 6 am to 9 am the next day, traveling in a car, walking around museums, eating out (I didn't eat anything, thank you), I was miserable. Anymore, when I choose to wear a corset, I only wear it tight enough to provide some back support and a wee bit of frontal support for the girls.
I love your videos. Keep them up. They make my day!
The mochi/cute aggression thing blew my mind! You're so right!!
Great video, Abby! I would like to add that along with everything you said, these modern actors complaining about how barbaric corsets are probably also do red carpet or other very formal events, or have worn modern shape wear. People don't ever talk publicly about all of the corsetry in formal designer evening gowns, and Netflix is certainly not going to ban the wearing of shape wear any time soon. Corsetry gets such a bad reputation, and for what reason? (misogyny)
i really wanna hear more about the kink histories of some types of tightlacing!
I loved you did DIY in it! 😁 Considering how much waiting around time there is on sets, and probably sitting in chair not designed for corset wearing, is it any wonder actors are finding them hard going for hours at a time? Great Vlog!
The body shape issue brings to mind that Hollywood actresses are already obliged to be rail thin and toned. A sanely fitted corset would leaving them looking much the same as without. Putting them in a corset that produces visible curve and uplift means enhancing a figure without the aid of bust or hips by squeezing an area with nothing squishy.
True,they almost need padding out in certain areas to achieve the right sillouette in a corset.
I wear an edwardian corset every day and I also hate driving in it 😂 I usuallt put a pillow on the carseat so I can sit straighter. I also love a good post corset itch. I imagine that the Edwardians wouldn't have tightlaced for so long--after coming home or retiring from dinner, they would probably loosen it or switch to a morning corset for the rest of the day.
Great video! Besides the corset information, I wait to see what you use for a microphone handle in each video. What really got me was when you were working on your sewing machine, and actually removed the parts: Brava!! Cleaning and restoring vintage sewing machines is one of my hobbies :)
This was fun to watch. I've been enjoying learning about corsets for a year or so now and want to start wearing them (not tight lace) but good knowledge. Love watching all your videos. Thanks for another one.
There is absolutely nothing better than a post-closet itch! I have a short torso so cannot tight lace, but I find corsets very comfortable otherwise. Thank you Abby for the fun vlog!
I have experienced quite negative gastrointestinal issues when tight laced, and that's after about 30 minutes of wear, but that's because I'm trying to squish an area of my body that no longer has that kinda extra squish. When I'm not tight laced and it's laced to my actual shape everything is fine. My friends who have some squish are much better with tight lacing.
The lesson: stay a bit squishy, my friends 😉
6:59 this is such a moooood! I personally enjoy wearing kimono more than wearing a corset just simply because of where the pressure is centered with both of those garments because the pressure of corset is on my waist, whereas the pressure of the tight part of a kimono is around my ribcage and I like how it feels better. But driving while dressed in full kimono is horrendous because it messes up my gas foot pressure so much! I do think this is exacerbated somewhat by the decorative knot at the back because there’s a little cushion underneath the tide part of the belt that makes it to where you can’t sit back all the way
Thank you for pointing out that different bodies corset differently. I feel like most people don't realize this. I know *I* definitely didn't in the beginning and got easily frustrated and upset and well, borderline angry with all those who said "tight lacing is SO EASY." I felt like they were lying to me... but the truth is, that was just their truth as humans with bodies similar to yours. That long torso and softer stomach make a world of difference. I have an extremely short torso, shorter than what a typical short torso is and while I do have a lot of "fluff', I have rock solid abs beneath it, a natural result of compensating for my crappy spine. So, when I first tried corseting, I was hoping it would help me slim down a few inches and accentuate any "pinching in" that was already there. I just found it really painful and made me bulge in places that were very unflattering. The thing is, although my corset was well-made, it was still made on "standard measurements" which aren't truly a thing. Since then, I've had the opportunity to try various models of corsets thanks to knowing someone who makes them custom and through watching videos by you, Nicole, and Bernadette, I've learned that not all bodies compress the same way. So now that I'm looking for a custom corset, I'm going in with realistic expectations that it's going to help smooth my body, lift "things" into the right place, and make outer garments look better while helping take some of the pressure off my exhausted abdominal muscles that are constantly tensed, just trying to stay upright.
But that's the trick though... corsets really should be made for the body that will wear them with realistic expectations for what they'll do. I also thing the culture of extreme tight lacing scares people & the almost cult-like behavior of "trainers" who use MLM wraps and weird neoprene devices in the vane attempt that'll perform waist-shrinking miracles aren't helping historical costuming/historical dressing in any way.
I think it's also important to note that you did all that wall stuff in tight lacing, not regular lacing, so that changes things a bit. If studios are enforcing ill-made, tight-laced corsets, I can understand the discomfort, but to rally against this piece of supportive underwear based on a misunderstanding of what it is, how it's supposed to be worn, and it really meant for women that wore it, that's silly. I loved this video! I can definitely see you working hard on increasing the quality of your videos and I'm so proud! Also great job on the nail gun, it looks amazing in there.
This video gave me the understanding that wearing a thight laced corset is just like wearing an uncomfortable bra or stiff jeans for the whole day. Like, past the afternoon and when I'm tired it gets too much and I like to change into sweats and no bra (especially we usually sit most of the day nowadays). I think the complaint the actresses have with corsets is a combination of corsets not fitting properly (cause there is no time to make an invisible part of the costume fit like a glove), it being tight laced, them having little to no body fat on the abdomen, long shoot days (like 14 hours or so) and sitting around when waiting for your scene. In those conditions, a pair of stiff, tight jeans would just as, if not more uncomfortable.
Loved the video and getting to "spend a day" with you 💕
I loved Everything about this. The sass, the stubborn girl determination to do the thing the hardest way possible, the education. Marvelous. 10/10.
I am a bony person with a short torso and my rib cage is basically straight up and down so if I ever get a corset there is no way I could tight lace - but I am still considering getting a custom corset sometime to wear at work to help with my posture. A girl can dream.
Thanks so much for the shout-out for my Skillshare sewing course!! ❤❤
Loved this blog! Thank you for showing real life situations wearing your corset. What is the lovely wallpaper in the back of your thumbnail for this video? The colors are gorgeous.
TV programs have given up on facts and accuarcy, now even documentaries are going that way..
You keep being yourself, honesty always triumphs!
I'm a server at texas roadhouse and a couple years ago after buying a corset for the ren faire and realizing just how much back support it provides even loosely laced while seasoning the corset i started wearing it to work under my uniform because i have a bad back and those trays are HEAVY, I started tight lacing just because i personally find the compression to be a comforting feeling, but even tight laced I do my line dances, yell the LOUDEST birthdays, and just generally run circles around my coworkers all night, but as much as i love and am more comfortable wearing my corset during the day it does feel good to take it off at the end of the night, and you're right, theres nothing like a good post-corset removal scratch
I think one of the major problems on productions is they're off the rack corsets bought just on waist size. So it might be worth trying to do a couple of hours tightlaced in an off the rack to get a really accurate understanding
I really hate how she just dumps on other women’s experiences
“Post-corset itch” 😂… so true!!!
If I'd realised The Sun started that nonsense, I'd have given it even less credit than I did... and I started out giving it none! Worth trying one of those wedge cushions to make modern seating more corset-friendly. Thick end at the back, thin at the front: it just puts your body in a more natural, healthy-posture position.
We call him "reno dad"! He's the best. He helped us make it through our bathroom reno in our old place!
I suspect corsetry would be very uncomfortable for me and I'd almost certainly struggle to eat in one, because I have very bad endometriosis. Even tights can be too restrictive, and I haven't been able to wear jeans for a few years either. Basically, anything tight around my belly leads to pain. As endo affects 1 in 10 women, i wonder if that's one reason why so many actors talk about how terrible they feel in corsetry? Just an idea that was going through my head while I watched the video.
Share this video far and wide. Don't let Netflix erase women's history. I recently spent 8 hours on a flight wearing a corset and I managed to make it out, not only alive, but in better physical condition had I don't so without a corset.
Squishy abdomen club! I love wearing my corset tight laced when im doing chores around the house because it’s so comfy while moving and it keeps my back straight. But the MOMENT I sit down it’s poking at me and I want it off
I really love that you’re doing this video. I wear a corset about 20 hours a day. And have done so for at least two years, I feel make it without it.
LMAO I love CANADIAN DAD! I like that he doesnt have a huge ego about what he does and he makes it approachable and practical.
I like wearing renaissance stays or coursets. I feel really comfortable in them. And I've been laced in tight.
the different body types is so important ! i also have a very soft abdomen, but a very high waist. so while a good corset is extremely comfortable, i can't lace down comfortably more than ~3 inches cause there's just not a lot of space between my ribs and my hips. but i do love the feeling of a snug corset--not one so tight that it pinches my ribs, but nice and secure
I seriously cannot stress enough that corsets are no more uncomfortable than most bras!!!
I appreciate real science, real research, and I respect your stick-to-it-ness. Thank you for the video!
I loved the quilted green skirt you wore in this video. So cute
Your proof of still wearing the corset made me happy, I have a photo of myself doing the same thing, corseted while mudding and taping drywall. I do agree about driving, too, possible, but best avoided, IMO. Would love more vlogs in future, this was fun!
I used to spend 8-12 hours a day in 1730s stays for my job, usually including walking 6.5 miles up and down 2 mountains in my work clothes to get to and from the museum, and while 18th c stays and 19th c tight lacing are clearly very different, I never had an issue with the stays. There are still things I can't do without stays or a corset on because I'll eff my back up without them! If it fits right, I've always said corsetry should feel oh so good to put on in the morning, and oh so good to take it back off in the evening.
I love everything about this video!! I was in a stage production of Dangerous Liasons years ago and had to wear a corset in the show. I’m extremely top heavy and found the corset waaaay more comfortable than a bra. Sometimes I feel like we’ve Gina backwards with fashion instead of forward.
The lacing-up scene made me smile, because a few days ago I watched a video where the corset wearer needed help lacing up and loudly announced that it was impossible to do by oneself 😊
Now this is quality content!
Also the kerosene reminds me of a video (I forgot it and the context, probably the laundry one though) where you said something like, victorians used stuff like lime juice and then in the edwardian you have kerosene
Thank you for proving, yet again that corsets are not the safety concern, lack of information and good research is. You're a totally badass, and I've loved you ever changing content since that first video, "Aren't you hot in that dress?" I appreciate all that you contribute to us, and society. ❤
seeing you tie your corset laces off in the front is so validating to me lmao
i really appreciate the honesty this video has! it strikes that balance between "corsets are not torture devices" and "eh, there are some drawbacks." nobody would like being in an underwire bra for 12 hours, either! i'm also someone with a soft abdomen who can achieve a 4" reduction without even trying very hard, but part of that is that i have an apron belly, and leaning over to do things like tying shoes becomes impossible because i've immobilized all the fat on the front of my abdomen that usually squishes enough to allow me to tie my shoes. thank you for being the voice of realism!
While my mother never had a lacing corset that I am aware of, she wore corsets all her life to support her back. She was a farm wife and mother. She worked out in the fields, garden, milked cows, and did her house work in a corset/girdle for the support it gave her.
This is completely unrelated to your fantastic video, but I LOVE the mug you used at the start
I love the look of those moldings next to the fireplace. Please show us the end result some time. I also liked that you were honest with what was comfortable and what wasn't in a tight laced corset, as well as explaining that body shape and other factors make it easier for you to tight lace while someone else might have more trouble. Costume/historical dramas need to try to make the costumes actually fit the actresses properly, especially since they're expected to work such long hours in them. But apparently that's not worth the time or money. I was just watching a Mysteries at the Museum last night, and there was a segment about these astronauts that had a strike from space because they were expected to work more than 16 hours a day, working through meal breaks and they were just exhausted. They decided to have a 24 hour radio black out and not talk to NASA during that time or work. They just took the time to relax and recuperate. And when they talked to NASA again, NASA learned that they needed to plan for the astronauts health and well being while they were in space.
LOVED THIS!! I love new styles of videos you're trying out!
I also have to wonder if the actresses are just like 'yeah the corset weas pretty uncomfortable after a while' and news outlets blow it out of proportion, or if it's just not something they're used to wearing so they're hyper aware of it?
I love watching you on my breaks at work.
I enjoyed the quality of this vlog, and am comfortable accompanying you through your day.
Fun video. I have always enjoyed my daughter's corset fashions. Now she doesn't tight lace, but she rocks the corsets that lift and accentuate her bust. New subscribers and love your work. Your friend from New Mexico, Carla.
Ok, listening to you talk to yourself like a pupper while taking off the corset at the end of the day just cracked me up! XD
I will always share this vid when people talk to tight lacing!
Also I have to say LOVE the green skirt you are wearing.
I haven't put on my corset since giving birth to my son 4 years ago. I used to wear my corset quite regularly for 8+ hours at a time with only minimal discomfort. I also have scoliosis which can be very uncomfortable regardless of clothing choices. I'm not sure if I have ever tight laced since I never did before & after measurements; just laced until I felt hugged. Now I want to pull out my corset and do measurements.. I think my extra squish will move nicely.
Thank you Abby for your efforts to show corsets as the beautiful support garments that they are supposed to be. Definitely interested in hearing more about the kink aspects too.
Loved spending the day with you! Would chill with you&doggos for 30 minutes A la Noelle. Are you doing a sewing machine restoration vid? I just got my Gran's hand turned singer!