Abandoned F-14's and F-4

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
  • These F-14's and F-4 have been abandoned in a field and it makes no sense why they are where the are.

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  • @michaelmckinnon1591
    @michaelmckinnon1591 4 года назад +605

    The F-14 Tomcats should be on the airshow circuit and the F-4 Phantom IIs as well, they were such a pleasure to fly and it's a real shame that future generations won't be able to see those beautiful warbirds flying.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 3 года назад +30

      @@alman5568 Better than the new overpriced pieces of junk we have today

    • @thegreatbedoof3460
      @thegreatbedoof3460 3 года назад +22

      @@alman5568 Hope u know the F14 was way ahead of it's time with AIM 54 that not even majority of aircrafts today can carry

    • @v0id683
      @v0id683 3 года назад +50

      @@alman5568 Oh man the tomcat boos are fumin :D great aircraft on paper but is a devil to the maintenance crew and pilots

    • @vice88
      @vice88 3 года назад +23

      @@v0id683 Someone who finally knows what they’re talking about.

    • @iTzAlbertXD
      @iTzAlbertXD 2 года назад +1

      Nah US could think about this before they scrap all the Navy's F14

  • @take5th
    @take5th 4 года назад +545

    I was a structural design engineer on the f-14 program in mid-1980s. Can’t believe they just left titanium wing box ‘ pivots, one piece windshield canopy casting (a first at the time), the old refueling boom door cover (I redesigned it), and other once considered state of the art structural parts. Kinda wish I had a chunk of it myself.

    • @GameBoyyearsago
      @GameBoyyearsago 3 года назад +14

      Then Make It Happen Sir : )

    • @alimahvan
      @alimahvan 2 года назад +28

      Let's, you and I go get one of the cockpits. I'm looking for a dead cat to turn into a flight simulator - I'll gladly put you in as well. 1500 hrs flight time in the A & B variants.

    • @cipherthedemonlord8057
      @cipherthedemonlord8057 2 года назад +8

      I'll bring my tools and brother's impact wrench.

    • @Mike-gz4xn
      @Mike-gz4xn Год назад

      It’s the military. Waste fraud and abuse. High turnover for positions equals lack of accountability even with the best intentions.

    • @raoulman1
      @raoulman1 Год назад +6

      Hi, you made good job, this plane is absolutly beautiful, very elegant. Have you blueprints to share ?

  • @tolugo87
    @tolugo87 7 лет назад +187

    In my opinion, F4 Phantoms were one of the most beautiful aircrafts ever made!

    • @phantomf4747
      @phantomf4747 2 года назад +11

      I 100% concur sir. She's a beauty.

    • @TralfazConstruction
      @TralfazConstruction Год назад +8

      Concur. For me, growing up in the late-'50s and throughout the '60s, it's the F-4 Phantom and the F-105 Thunderchief at the pinnacle of my favorite aircraft.

    • @xisotopex
      @xisotopex Год назад +3

      as a kid making models, I loved the F4 and knew everything about it

    • @Squiddicus2
      @Squiddicus2 Год назад +1

      Not a fan of the F4s airframe but it’s a damn awesome plane

    • @yan24to
      @yan24to Год назад +3

      Still are for sure.

  • @lebaillidessavoies3889
    @lebaillidessavoies3889 4 года назад +50

    This titanium wing attachement pivot on the F14 is massive.Beautiful piece of engineering.

    • @qu4ttro0
      @qu4ttro0 2 года назад +7

      shame thats the same beautiful piece that killed the plane.

    • @kittytrail
      @kittytrail Год назад +1

      chinese smelter feed those are now... 🙄

  • @fastmoverfixer2089
    @fastmoverfixer2089 Год назад +11

    As a former F4-E and F-111A/F maintainer it very sad to see these Aircraft broken and forgotten! So many of us used up our youth maintaining them!

  • @RobertGarcia-wb4hy
    @RobertGarcia-wb4hy 7 лет назад +57

    I once read that at the boneyard, where most of these planes go to finally rest, one of the last things they do is to run the engines to drain the lines of any remaining fuel. As any remaining fuel wears out, the engines chug, chug... as if she were gasping for air. Sad stuff for such a beautiful bird.

  • @ramosel
    @ramosel 7 лет назад +419

    I flew the Tomcat (A&B models) with VF-102... Diamondbacks, Baby! This is one of those things that just makes you sick in the pit of your stomach. That the old girls were just stripped, dumped, left to rot. I will hate Cheney until the day I die. They were great planes and deserved better. I'm sure my buddy cLyDe would say the same thing about his beloved F4.

    • @raykupal
      @raykupal 7 лет назад +18

      ramosel I hear yah! He's a dick! That Cheney guy!

    • @ramosel
      @ramosel 7 лет назад +44

      In history, two great planes (SR-71 and F-14) were taken down by the most evil of devices... red pen of the SECDEF. McNamara and Cheney...

    • @anthonysaponaro6318
      @anthonysaponaro6318 7 лет назад +21

      They were taken down by maintenance costs because pilots didn't know how to not beat the piss out of them and who can honestly blame them but what the F-14 unique was also one of it's major weaknesses . . . . . it cost more to repair them sometimes than to just build a brand new one

    • @msrx08
      @msrx08 7 лет назад +9

      Hi Ramosel, for sure you know probably that Ferrari's logo was the logo of Francesco Baracca, Italian ace of the 1st World War. Once he was downed, Francesco Baracca's mother asked Enzo Ferrari to use the simbol of her son on hes cars. Ferrari accepted and the spirit of Baracca still run today.

    • @ramosel
      @ramosel 7 лет назад +4

      Yep, I've read much about the Cavallino Rampante,

  • @danielmarshall4799
    @danielmarshall4799 7 лет назад +69

    These were used as Static Dispays at one time. You can see towards the end of the video the pedestal the F-4 sat on. I know because as a Crane Operator, I have set a few aircraft on pedestals including of few dispays on Kelly in 1998 and the display inside of the Park in Texas City, Texas along skyline drive.

    • @johnfry9010
      @johnfry9010 Год назад

      My guess they were taken down to put up a BLM , or maybe a Rainbow Flag in their place !

    • @falkwulf3842
      @falkwulf3842 6 месяцев назад +1

      That is a possibility, but the other possibility is that the two Tom's were the missing airframes that two separate smuggling rings were selling to Iran in the early to mid 2000's Officials told of one instance in 2000, where a company called Multicore bought the fighters and parts from the Department of Defense surplus office. The parts were later confiscated because of export control violations and returned to the surplus office the airframes were never recovered. However, another company, allegedly Iranian, bought the same parts in 2005. Those parts actually made it to Iran. Defense officials at the time publicly said that Tehran is said to be in search of several key components for its aging fleet of F-14 “Tomcat” jets, which the United States sold to Iran prior to its 1979 Islamic Revolution. These parts include electronics and hydraulics used to control the wing, guidance and control system, J85 engines, Vulcan 20mm cannon and ammunition drums, and Sparrow medium-range missiles. Members of Congress put pressure on the U.S. military to suspend the selling of F-14 parts. Rep. Christopher Shays called the cases “a huge breakdown, an absolute, huge breakdown.” He said “the military should not sell or give away any F-14 parts. If we no longer need it, it needs to be destroyed-totally destroyed.”

  • @anchorjam5590
    @anchorjam5590 5 лет назад +79

    If they were mine, I would turn them into home cockpit simulators so that the legacy of these beautiful machines could live on in spirit

    • @Major_Tamre_Colby
      @Major_Tamre_Colby 3 года назад +1

      Or to preserve them.
      Tamre'

    • @FastPaull
      @FastPaull 2 года назад +2

      That was literally my first thought

    • @earlwyss520
      @earlwyss520 Год назад

      My thoughts exactly, but in their current condition, I'd rather see them recycled into something useful.

  • @apollolander11
    @apollolander11 7 лет назад +62

    Simply amazing....thanks so much for posting. People talk about how"ugly " the F-4s were,but to me they were beautiful aircraft

    • @TheJer1963
      @TheJer1963 4 года назад +2

      When you say people talking about ugly I believe you meant to say the A-10 as it was not called the Warthog for nothing.

    • @whiskyweasal89
      @whiskyweasal89 3 года назад +6

      I always thought the f-4’s looked pretty badass myself.

    • @HomeDefender30
      @HomeDefender30 Год назад

      @@whiskyweasal89 agreed… other than the F-14, the F4 is the next best looking aircraft.

  • @darthbaker820
    @darthbaker820 3 года назад +15

    I worked on these aircraft from 1988 to 1996 in the Navy as an electronics tech and worked on them later as a civilian contractor upgrading them. Loved that aircraft! Sure miss those beautiful birds on the flightline.

  • @Elev8minh
    @Elev8minh 2 года назад +144

    THIS IS CRIMINAL TO SEE THESE BEAUTIFUL AIRFRAMES LIKE THIS. THE F14 IS MY FAVORITE AIRCRAFT OF ALL TIME AND THE F4 IS SO RESPECTED FOR ITS SERVICE IN THE VIETNAM WAR.

    • @thecommentator3732
      @thecommentator3732 Год назад +6

      Deal with it

    • @Squiddicus2
      @Squiddicus2 Год назад +8

      @@thecommentator3732I am going to steal your washing machine

    • @alexx8968
      @alexx8968 Год назад

      @@thecommentator3732 im gonna sell your kidney on the albanian black market

    • @thecommentator3732
      @thecommentator3732 Год назад

      @@alexx8968 Go cry about it,Kid.

    • @thecommentator3732
      @thecommentator3732 Год назад +1

      @@Squiddicus2 Is that a threat?
      Because i use my hands to wash my clothes

  • @whclcdr
    @whclcdr 7 лет назад +377

    Incredible....and such a shame. I was a back seater in one of these mighty warbirds. It breaks my heart of see these birds like this.

    • @ErikJohnston
      @ErikJohnston  7 лет назад +48

      William Collins Thank you for your service!!!!

    • @aeenramirez
      @aeenramirez 7 лет назад +21

      me too, im still crying... i dont know how say.... damn to Dick Cheney damn..........

    • @chris1451
      @chris1451 7 лет назад +6

      What does Dick Cheney have to do with it?

    • @WootTootZoot
      @WootTootZoot 7 лет назад +23

      Dick Cheney pushed for big cuts to the Navy and USAF.

    • @mikemac2888
      @mikemac2888 7 лет назад +3

      Unlike the F-4 shooting gallery in the desert as target drones?

  • @garywall7336
    @garywall7336 4 года назад +18

    152267 (MSN 994) upgraded to F-4N. SOC Apr 14, 1982. Currently preserved in Dallas, Texas. When it went to
    the Army Reserve, it was towed to a forest area near Temple, TX. NMNA at Pensacola took charge of all
    Navy preserved aircraft.

    • @jordanmascarenhas7974
      @jordanmascarenhas7974 Год назад +1

      So what happened to the F-14A in this video? How did it get there and why? Also, are these birds still there in the field now?

    • @alexchubbymclynn6060
      @alexchubbymclynn6060 Год назад

      Thanks for the bulk number of F-4, I am trying to keep track of these birds: where they are, how many are scavenged or cannibalised, which of them are stored and so on... F-4 is my life, most beautiful bird ever built. Thanks for the video. It so so sad to see aircraft in such a miserable state...

  • @fr-tigerfangs7039
    @fr-tigerfangs7039 6 лет назад +23

    A truly hearbreaking sight... Two magnificent flying machines now left in the open to rot and decay (any similarity with our human condition would be... well, intentional). Back in their days, they used to roam the skies as the apex birds of prey. The F4 could very possibly have seen the MiGs in Vietnam, while the Tomcats could have faced some Su-22s off the Libyan coasts in the eighties. Who knows? Thanks for sharing with us aviation fans.

  • @ibuprofenPill
    @ibuprofenPill 6 лет назад +28

    2:21, the pilot who flew that plane used HUSTLER for a call sign. Love it.

  • @wipout1
    @wipout1 7 лет назад +25

    even when trashed, the F14's still look awesome

  • @fleuger99
    @fleuger99 7 лет назад +55

    Funny to think these were at one time front-line fighters/fighter-bombers which were looked after by large crews and now they are simply piles of junk. Time can be a bastard :)

  • @Onirot69
    @Onirot69 3 года назад +33

    Zooms in on wing pivot point: dang I wonder if they know that’s a crap ton of titanium

    • @5695q
      @5695q 3 года назад +3

      The F14 wing skin is titanium along with the box beam, $$$$$.

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus 3 года назад +1

      Spotted a couple other Ti parts as well.
      Decent scrap value on that...

  • @356rah
    @356rah 7 лет назад +36

    152267 was an F4B that went through overhaul and repair at NAS North Island back in September 1966 and checking my log book I logged 1.6 hour in the back seat on a test flight.

    • @f_nc
      @f_nc 6 лет назад

      amazing. you should feel bad.

    • @TheJer1963
      @TheJer1963 4 года назад

      It use to be on display in Dallas at onetime.

    • @qu4ttro0
      @qu4ttro0 2 года назад

      Now that is cool trivia. thanks for sharing.

  • @birdsoup777
    @birdsoup777 Год назад +3

    Thank you for showing this. Good example of nothing lasts forever no matter how sophisticated it is

  • @noonehere1793
    @noonehere1793 Год назад +3

    As an old RF 4 C driver, it causes me a lot of pain to see those, i would love to have one in my back yard,..i still have the seat out of one it had to “jettison” due to excessive holes and fire…..but it brought me back.

  • @cardinalflyer152
    @cardinalflyer152 7 лет назад +31

    Oh, wow. Crazy to think that at one point these were beautiful aircraft, maintained in tip-top shape and gave many pilots the experience of a lifetime.

  • @marilyn3583
    @marilyn3583 6 лет назад +7

    The throttle levers from either plane could be used by any flightsim enthusiast. The F-14 had full span flaps so I didn't see them. The "sweep wings" are actually F-4 I think. You can see a red, wing mounted speedbrake (the F-14 had a clamshell style speedbrake between the vertical fins). 3:55.

  • @Megalodon64
    @Megalodon64 7 лет назад +395

    Maybe that's where Maverick's Tomcat went after the flatspin. LOL

    • @josephpreissler6855
      @josephpreissler6855 7 лет назад +9

      Megalodon64 haha

    • @mikemac2888
      @mikemac2888 7 лет назад +5

      That's hilarious, except, ocean. Boo.

    • @milkybar06
      @milkybar06 7 лет назад +6

      Was Tom cruise with it?

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 7 лет назад +6

      yeah.. also you would nik-pick the whole movie
      -the planes you will be flying against are smaller faster and more maneovrable : Enters A-4 skyhawks....
      -360º radars
      -Maverick is 100m and cant fire on enemy migs until 100m behind them
      -A ready5 and CAP planes with 2 sidewinders and 2 Sparrows only
      -North Korean MIGs over the indian sea
      -showers
      -Top Gun Throphy
      -Top Gun points
      - -4G maneovers

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 7 лет назад +6

      The A-4 ..specially the version used by Top Gun (it was a lighter version with all air to ground equipment removed and better sidewinder support) while lighter and nimbler than the Tomcat.. was way underpowered.. it was used to simulate the MIG-17 mainly.. the A-4 couldnt handle a sustained turn or climb faster than the F-14 ..but it was excelent to teach students how to use the Tomcat's (or the F-4 before) superior power to weight ratio against nimbler but underpowered enemy fighters.. the F-5E was used to simulate the MIG-19 and MIG-21 and during the 80s some KFIRs were lent by the Israel Air Force wich were excelent to simulate MIG-23s..all these planes had their strenghts and weakness and Top Gun was to teach F-14 pilots how exploit the F-14 capabilities against each type..
      However the introduction in the early 80s of the 4th gen fighter was a game changer.. They could do everything right.. it had more maneovrability and better power to weight ratio to sustain turns and climbs.. the navy got some F-16As to simulate the new MIG-29.. some old F-14As were used to simulate SU-27s as well..
      However the more F-18s the navy had made the use of several aircraft redundant..as contrary to popular beliebth the F-18 even the early A models had better power to weight ratio (specially when not carrying bombs) than the F-14A..and were as good as the F-16N .. so Top Gun migrated towards a nearly all F-18 fleet ..
      If you can beat a F-18 or a F-16 you can beat a MIG-29 or a SU-27.. and they dont have weak areas like the A-4/F-5
      Now the arrival of the F-35 will be interesting to see how it changes stuff in Top Gun..will they try to train against other F-35s?

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 7 лет назад +3

    I would have absolutely LOVED this as a kid, we would have had a ton of fun on those things. We had 2 1957 chevys in our woods that were abandoned we used to mess with, never found out what happened to them we moved away and that area is all condos now.

  • @Fedaykin24
    @Fedaykin24 7 лет назад +43

    How? The AMARG F-14 examples were carefully disposed of to ensure no spares made their way to Iran!

    • @ColHogan-le5yk
      @ColHogan-le5yk 5 лет назад +5

      Hello black market parts

    • @toadman506
      @toadman506 5 лет назад +3

      These were stripped And the spars as well as the hinge boxes cut before they were sold as scrap

  • @MrMorden00
    @MrMorden00 Год назад +4

    I'd get out there with a flatbed and a sawz-all and salvage those cockpits. Would make nice simulator cockpits or display pieces when cleaned up.

  • @WakeMarine
    @WakeMarine 4 года назад +1

    The first Jet I got to touch in 89 was a F-4. Changed my life. RIP. AV-8B Puke.

  • @carlwheeler3403
    @carlwheeler3403 7 лет назад +3

    I saw something similar back in the early 60's with three planes at NAS Whidbey Island. There were two A-3 Skywarriors and one A-4 Skyhawk piled up in the woods on property that was previously owned by the government. All three planes were scrapped because of structural integrity issues caused by aircraft mishaps. I would play on them when I was a kid. They were removed back in the 70's.

  • @derekedge2089
    @derekedge2089 Год назад +2

    When I was a kid, there was a stripped, but intact A-4 Skyhawk in the city park where I live. It was right around the time Top Gun came to the theater. It was great fun to pretend to fly it. It had no canopy, ejection seat, gauges, stick,, throttle quad. and so on, But we're kids and had no use for them anyway. I loved climbing in through the nozzle and peeking my head out of the intakes. Truth be told, I smoked my first cigarette ever, inside the nacelle. What a time to be young.

  • @mikestanley9176
    @mikestanley9176 Год назад +12

    You don't realize how big a Tomcat is until you stand next to one.

    • @MrMorden00
      @MrMorden00 Год назад +2

      That is for sure. I got to sit in one that was being restored, it's a beastly airplane. And I was surprised how high you sit, the sills are down below your bicep and you have great visibility.

    • @KWatson1984
      @KWatson1984 Год назад +1

      I stood next to the one at Grissom and couldn't believe it was a fighter. It'as big as a schoolbus.

  • @bobpritchard979
    @bobpritchard979 Год назад +2

    It kills me to see two of the most magnificent aircraft of all time just sitting like that. I've worked on both and God I want to cry..

  • @Yehudah5768
    @Yehudah5768 7 лет назад +6

    crazy that they were abandoned in a field. I worked on F-14's for 12 years... I'd love to see this.

    • @rossschlitt4635
      @rossschlitt4635 7 лет назад

      Too bad someone couldn't 3-D scan all the parts after breaking everything down and labeling them, eh?

  • @StormChasingVideo
    @StormChasingVideo Год назад +2

    Surprised someone has not picked them up for scrape metal

  • @armydog1002
    @armydog1002 Год назад +6

    I’d love to see a restoration from start to finish on both of these. I wonder what a project like that would cost?

  • @Bazuzeus
    @Bazuzeus 7 лет назад +12

    My 2 favorite planes of all times, side by side.... in a miserable condition.... This is heartbreaking for me :/

  • @nervo6321
    @nervo6321 5 лет назад +4

    Heartbreaking to see these wonderful machines end up degraded in this way.....

  • @rcbif101
    @rcbif101 7 лет назад +17

    I was wondering where I misplaced those. I will send you a self addressed shipping label so you can send them my way. Thanks,
    rcbif

  • @TheMrmmkkpro
    @TheMrmmkkpro Год назад +6

    Cool but kinda sad, I talk to my old cars and feel like they understand (call me weird) but I bet the pilots spoke to these beauties more than once. A man can grow strongly attached to a machine, just the way it is. They deserve better.

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084 2 года назад +17

    It's sad to see such a great aircraft end up in such a condition

  • @benking4367
    @benking4367 Год назад +2

    I’ve never flown in either , however own the radio controlled versions they’re beautiful in life sized and R/C.
    It’s a shame these two beautiful ladies are left to rot away ..

  • @Hercules718
    @Hercules718 5 лет назад +7

    The F4 was always my favorite. How can you not like a plane called Phantom ?! It would be really spooky to walk around here at night.

  • @corbinclements2222
    @corbinclements2222 Год назад +1

    This hearts. These beautiful birds should be in airshows or in a museum setting

  • @turbofox5424
    @turbofox5424 7 лет назад +7

    The Stennis deployed 4 times with Tomcats on board, the last time being 2004. These look to be F-14a's which would mean they were from VF-211 which last deployed on the Stennis in 02. The other squadrons had B's and D's while abourd the Stennis. These were prolly retired due to high time on the airframe or they had failed NDI tests on the airframe. I wish there was some better footage to be able to tell exactly which Tomcats they were.

  • @ramhammer10-4
    @ramhammer10-4 Год назад +2

    The F14 was super loud and super cool to watch fly overs.

  • @aceiconia7215
    @aceiconia7215 5 лет назад +3

    F-14 was a maintenance nightmare. It was a great aircraft that was outdated in the modern air to air arena. Just like other greats like the F4. Time marches on and old drivers will always swear by there old horses I can't blame them one bit.

  • @tisoy909
    @tisoy909 2 года назад +2

    I believe this F-4 was paint schemed out as a display. Sporting the VMFA-112 Cowboys squadron insignia. But the tail registration 152267 brings it back to actual service with the Navy. Flying with VF-51 "Screamin Eagles" aboard USS Coral Sea.

  • @EddieLeal
    @EddieLeal 4 года назад +14

    Those planes cost Uncle Sam approximately $38 million (1998) ($19.2 million in 1977). It first flew on 21 December 1970 and made its first deployment in 1974 with the U.S. Navy aboard USS Enterprise (CVN-65), replacing the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. The Tomcat was retired by U.S. Navy on 22 September 2006, having been supplanted by the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

  • @Tugboatpb
    @Tugboatpb 7 лет назад +209

    Those titanium wing boxes alone were worth millions of dollars per plane. Wow

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 7 лет назад +1

      What part/area is considered the wing box?

    • @RocketToTheMoose
      @RocketToTheMoose 7 лет назад +35

      It's a large rectangular piece that extends across the width of the fuselage. It's got a wing pivot mount on each side (check out 0:34). It carries the load of the wing. They were electron beam welded. Pretty exotic construction in the day.

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 7 лет назад +7

      I see. But if it is worth million like the OP claims, I have a hard time believing these planes were sold decommissioned for less than 10K back in the day. Of course, those too the government decided they wanted back...

    • @dadautube
      @dadautube 7 лет назад +30

      you do sound right ... but consider this: how does a $2K computer ends up for 50¢ in a government sales store after its era ends?
      it's people's tax money spent on these toys and when they are garbage, then they are nothing but garbage to the government because as long as people work and pay their mandatory taxes, government has more than enough funds to buy new material again and again and ...
      i think the question is why weren't these items in this video sold to scrape metal buyers willing to pay a buck or two for them?

    • @johnosbourn4312
      @johnosbourn4312 7 лет назад +32

      Rcbif The Navy wanted to cut up all remaining F-14 airframes in order to keep all the parts from showing up on the black market, and also to keep the Iranians from getting their hands on the parts, as well.

  • @benhobe
    @benhobe 7 лет назад +7

    Given the partial STENNIS on the glove area, and the presence of the glove vane surface, my best guess is that this was a VF-211 F-14A, unless this was a former gate guard in which case who knows.

  • @GeneralGavin2000
    @GeneralGavin2000 7 лет назад +6

    This makes me cry to see these planes in that condition

  • @ringofthebrave
    @ringofthebrave 6 лет назад +4

    This is what happens to so many military AC. At least there are some left in museums. The F14 is quite an interesting plane.

  • @cbrown9287
    @cbrown9287 7 лет назад +6

    what a kool find.. such powerful and fast jets.. never 'fully' understood why a new generation F-14 wasn't possible.. like the super hornet or silent eagle.. with tarps n lantirn etc she was a beast. Two of my fav frames but there are many sweet designs, harriers and warthogs are awesome with unique abilities also, just alot slower hah

    • @garypinsker
      @garypinsker 7 лет назад +3

      It was not about what was possible. It was. In fact we had concept designs for Tomcat 21, a 21st century composite airframe. When Mr Chaney decided on the F-18 Super Hornet and dumped billions into that design, Grumman killed the next generation design. That's when Grumman merged with Northrop and the rest is history. No matter what comes next the F-14 will always be ahead of its time.

    • @michaelmckinnon1591
      @michaelmckinnon1591 4 года назад +1

      Grumman decided to focus on building trucks

    • @michaelmckinnon1591
      @michaelmckinnon1591 4 года назад +1

      Grumman decided to focus on building trucks

    • @silaskuemmerle2505
      @silaskuemmerle2505 Год назад

      Variable geometry aircraft are a maintenance nightmare and the navy was trying to cut costs.

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 Год назад

      Money and politics. But mostly money

  • @campbewg56
    @campbewg56 7 лет назад +3

    Hi, I use to crew the RF-4C Phantom in the USAF at Shaw AFB, SC between 1975 -1979. I had a 1972 model and was the newest in my flight. It left the base and I didn't see it again for about a year. It came in Cross Country flight as NASA. Thanks for the video, it brought back many memories. Gerald Campbell SGT E-4

    • @campbewg56
      @campbewg56 Год назад

      @@peterangles793 Yeah, back then E-4 was NCO, but a few years after my separation USAF reduced the rank to Senior Airman. Go figure. I visited Shaw AFB a couple years ago, and now it’s more tan Army base.

    • @campbewg56
      @campbewg56 Год назад

      @@peterangles793 oh by the way, we’re you stationed at Shaw?

  • @fortyfour6626
    @fortyfour6626 Год назад +1

    This should be made into a museum. I’d go. I’d pay 5 bucks to walk around it. The titanium on that frame…omg, that’s good man!

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 2 года назад +5

    Man so sad to see this beast abandoned. Also there's probably still a lot of valuable metal you can sell off from that aircraft

  • @haroldmclean3755
    @haroldmclean3755 Год назад +1

    Well that's some Super Cool outdoor Furniture Right there 👍

  • @kevinriordan7842
    @kevinriordan7842 4 года назад +4

    I am surprised the Tomcat fuselages are there. If I recall correctly the wing box for F-14 is made of majority titanium and a significant structure.

    • @Wildfire86872
      @Wildfire86872 Год назад

      Those wing boxes are why we'll never see one fly again.

  • @buckstarchaser2376
    @buckstarchaser2376 3 года назад +2

    A couple of good weekend restoration projects there. Should go back together pretty quick.

  • @brendanpotash
    @brendanpotash 7 лет назад +10

    I can imagine about a couple million community college engineering students that could learn a ton of useful knowledge just by getting their hands on those elegant frames. Ripped up or not, they're a learning milepost for young Americans. I blame uninspired and complacent bureaucrats for their lack of vision. Where are those located?

    • @jeepinbanditrider
      @jeepinbanditrider 7 лет назад

      Apparently Temple, Tx. I'm not too far from Temple I should swing by and check them out lol.

  • @uberbeeg
    @uberbeeg Год назад +2

    It's kind of surreal to think of F-14s abandoned, my mind finds it hard to think of them as being out of date.

  • @falconeaterf15
    @falconeaterf15 7 лет назад +19

    Government hires contractor to haul planes to a suitable scrap yard. Contractor offers low bid and simply dumps cargo into a river or open field. It's a win-win. Contractor makes a profit, taxpayers get their expensive junk disposed of as cheaply as possible.
    Woodland critters get to frolic in an F14.

    • @Colt45hatchback
      @Colt45hatchback 5 лет назад +2

      Surely a huge piece of 7075 alloy would be worth more to scrap than dump...

  • @jeffreyramey1585
    @jeffreyramey1585 2 года назад +1

    I was a maintainer for both F-4S and F-14A in VF-202, and VF-201. This is very disheartening.

  • @froggy3121
    @froggy3121 7 лет назад +4

    @ErikJohnston : I fully expected this to be 'clickbait', since everyone knows that all the U.S. F-14s that exist are either shredded, or just static displays.
    What an incredible find !
    I am an artist building a full scale F-14 vertical stabilizer out of cardboard. It takes up my entire living room wall !
    I couldn't help but notice the tail you came across. If it is allowed, it would make a great display for some lucky aviation guy. Thanks for posting !

    • @ErikJohnston
      @ErikJohnston  7 лет назад +3

      Froggy Haha, no I'm not really into that click bait stuff. Just watch my other videos.

    • @MrHeath13
      @MrHeath13 6 лет назад

      Hello Friend I know were there are 3 in Ga and they are all in a wooded area very cool to go look at also 2 at WRAFB in Ga in the Muslim .
      buy yes 3 in the edge of the woods in Bibb Co not know to most people and also 1 f15. I have no idea why thy are inn the woods at the farm??

    • @Itiswhatitislifestyle
      @Itiswhatitislifestyle 6 лет назад

      Bones Pappy grid to location

    • @TheJer1963
      @TheJer1963 6 лет назад +1

      The ones in this video are in Temple Texas. A short walk from a bunch of homes.

  • @CrossFit-qz3ok
    @CrossFit-qz3ok 6 лет назад +1

    In the early days of scraping the F14, there were no chopping it up, parts were being sold without government approval. These could have been from private company hired to scrap some. The 14 replaced the F 4, so maybe the 4 was first to be contract out and same group took the 14 to same location later...looks like the plane was taken apart and hauled to this location and then just laid out .

  • @shamarone
    @shamarone 7 лет назад +6

    holy crap, the trees growing up through the fuselage make them look like extinct TRANSFORMERS.
    and yes, why the hell are they there, cause they've been there for a while...?

    • @jameseast7966
      @jameseast7966 2 года назад

      I think the species of tree is what is called a tallow tree. They grow to 2 inch dia in first year, 4 inch a year later. In 3 years, 8 inches. That is why they look large. The plague of east Tx and sw Louisiana.

  • @phx4closureman
    @phx4closureman 4 года назад +1

    0:16 *THAT'S TRULY DISGUSTING to see the condition that this aircraft is in* ... trees growing through opened areas..... OMG..... *sickening* . I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that has this type of "visceral reaction" to seeing these jet "carcasses" in this condition.

  • @thegameroom6918
    @thegameroom6918 7 лет назад +27

    In my opinion F-14 is still the best fighter in the world, it's definitely my favourite one. Too bad that the costs were too high, otherwise they could still serve the nation! In its era, the Tomcat was without any doubt the best fighter. That's why the UK, Israel, France,The Netherlands, Turkey and some other European countries wanted to buy this bird but the congress didn't allow it. It was only sold to Iran (a US ally) to prevent any Soviet invasion.
    They should make a new generation of F-14. That would be amazing.

    • @rossschlitt4635
      @rossschlitt4635 7 лет назад

      I wish someone had come along before the Navy was notified about them, bracken everything apart, labeled the parts and created 3-D models of all the parts. If someone came out with a civilian version of the F-14 made from the knowledge, I'd get rich, get my pilot's license and buy one.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 6 лет назад +3

      Nope the F14 would get absolutely slaughtered today. The F15 was introduced less than 16 months after the F14. The F16 introduced 4 years after the F14. There's a reason why the 15 and 16 are still in production while the 14 has been retired over a decade.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 6 лет назад +1

      Travis Thacker the F14 was slower with less than half the combat radius and ferry than the F15.

    • @Pgh412aviation
      @Pgh412aviation 6 лет назад

      The Northrop YF-23 could have replaced the F-14. Maybe a larger version of the Super Hornet

    • @darylrocks2753
      @darylrocks2753 6 лет назад

      @Da Koynul your the guy with a Camaro who just got pasted by a Ferrari. Stop hating f14 mopped the floor on f4s

  • @starckmad1779
    @starckmad1779 7 лет назад +1

    Erik, I love that this video came up as "recommended for you"! Now subscribed!.

  • @FidgetNStyleSpinnerReviews
    @FidgetNStyleSpinnerReviews 6 лет назад +6

    I'd love a piece of the wedge from the F-14. There's a chance my father manufactured it.

  • @Zoydian
    @Zoydian 6 лет назад +1

    Such sophisticated machines... in ruins.

  • @jdarksword
    @jdarksword 7 лет назад +30

    Sad sight to see once beautiful aircraft rotting away

    • @Holret
      @Holret 7 лет назад +5

      Dont worry, im sure it was cannibalized before the airframe was placed there.

    • @MrBioniclefan1
      @MrBioniclefan1 7 лет назад

      135th Darksword I know right

  • @Synergy0_0
    @Synergy0_0 Год назад +1

    Obviously it can't be airworthy anymore, but I would still buy it!

  • @jakeglassmoyer9984
    @jakeglassmoyer9984 Год назад +3

    At Temple Iron and metal. Can still see it in Google maps. On the other side of the tracks.

  • @gunplafan9891
    @gunplafan9891 Год назад +2

    Imagine taking that and restoring it that would be awesome

  • @armandomederosjr.1247
    @armandomederosjr.1247 7 лет назад +51

    how could you abandon the f14? the tomcat man. so sad

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad 4 года назад

      cause it's super safe to fly an airframe that endures this kind of abuse forever

    • @YournewFrizzishere
      @YournewFrizzishere 4 года назад

      So as the F8 II

  • @christopherrasmussen8718
    @christopherrasmussen8718 Год назад +1

    Used to be a yard like this at Lakehurst NAS. They had a track to test on for a long time. Some went almost hysterically wrong

  • @EagleOneM1953
    @EagleOneM1953 7 лет назад +148

    As an aviation writer and aviation historian images like this make me cringe.
    This is a crime against history.
    These aircraft should have been preserved in a museum for everyone to be admired.
    When will we stop destroying our heritage?

    • @ferrallderrall6588
      @ferrallderrall6588 7 лет назад +9

      EagleOneM , are you crying?

    • @deathwarmedup73
      @deathwarmedup73 7 лет назад +14

      It's a crime against nature that they're dumped there in that woodland. That's some heavy duty littering.

    • @myrongaines5542
      @myrongaines5542 7 лет назад +10

      pjc 73 You should see all the stuff the navy dumped into the pacific ocean because it was cheaper to then to ship them back to the states after WW2

    • @WootTootZoot
      @WootTootZoot 7 лет назад +10

      Oh bullshit. There are so many F-4's and F-14 around, they aren't worth the effort to mess with. You go ahead, feel free to put up some cash to get those trash cans fixed up.

    • @Miller98k
      @Miller98k 7 лет назад +2

      EagleOneM Fine as long as you don't use my tax dollars to support your museum.

  • @oliveirayrd
    @oliveirayrd 4 года назад +2

    It’s really sad, see these birds dieing this way.
    They deserve more.

  • @billg7813
    @billg7813 7 лет назад +4

    This makes me wonder why I try and do my part and recycle aluminum cans

  • @fortyfour6626
    @fortyfour6626 Год назад +2

    First emotion is anger then sadness. How do we allow our aviation to end up like this? All that aside…I will pay big money for that refueling probe. What an awesome piece for my bar. I’d take and pay for literally any part off that tomcat

  • @nate92fiveee
    @nate92fiveee 5 лет назад +7

    Someone should make a go fund me page so people could donate so they could restore the F-14 then bring it to airshows

    • @fixedgearfever69
      @fixedgearfever69 5 лет назад

      I dont think they can be restored. Plenty of nice ones at the boneyard in AZ.

    • @theknifeknerd
      @theknifeknerd 5 лет назад

      And the government would never allow one of these to be sold to a civilian. Search civilian buys a military jet on RUclips. It’s very hard.

    • @contraststriker8198
      @contraststriker8198 4 года назад

      @@fixedgearfever69 in fact there is a f14D that still untouched ... ready to roar

    • @thecommentator3732
      @thecommentator3732 Год назад

      Thats not how it works lmao

    • @thecommentator3732
      @thecommentator3732 Год назад

      @@contraststriker8198 Ready to roar??
      Lmao the cockpit of the F-14D was removed lol

  • @Ulleval73
    @Ulleval73 6 лет назад +1

    A lot of issues killed the F-14. One of them was the maintenance to flight hour ratio.....it was getting to the point the aircraft were in maintenance several hours for every hour they were out carving up the sky. This is what happens to old equipment...it wears out. So, the F-14 was retired....one of the reasons was it was getting too expensive to maintain, and there was little alternative to the Navy.

    • @rearspeaker6364
      @rearspeaker6364 5 лет назад

      lack of upgrades rebuilding and dick chaney killed this aircraft.

  • @KLRGT500KR
    @KLRGT500KR 7 лет назад +19

    F14. The greatest fighter ever made. I say that based on the accomplishments over 40 years. It was built to win wars. Kosovo, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. This fighter proved itself against anyone who dared to mess with it. The only fighter where over 90% of the enemy fighters turned around and ran for life as soon as US Navy F14s engaged them.

    • @TyphoonVstrom
      @TyphoonVstrom 7 лет назад

      Yep, reigned supreme over fighters designed 30-50 years before it. LOL
      Also, the F14 wasn't a fighter, but an interceptor..

    • @KLRGT500KR
      @KLRGT500KR 7 лет назад +3

      30 to 50 years before it? LOL I never knew the F-16N Viper with the J-79 engine or the MIG-27 and MIG-29 were designed 50 years before the F-14. It might be a surprise, but both of these are very relevant to the F-14. Want to try again, clown? Think before you spew nonsense. The level of ignorance is off the charts It is not even funny. There are tons of Grumman seminars (By Mike Cimenera) and Top Gun pilots where they illustrate how it was designed from the ground up as an air-to-air superiority fighter. It had capabilities where it did extremely well in BVR, but it was first and foremost air superiority fighter. Also, 99% of its role as part of the Top Gun program was to dog fight all the other types of fighters.The BVR capabilities were rarely ever used by Navy. It was used as an air superiority fighter and later near the end of the career, a strike fighter for air-to-ground missions with the F-14 version D. Yeah, it is antiquated by today's standards, but before 2006, there were very few fighters in the 40 years prior that could put up a fight against an F14 being piloted by a legend like Dale "Snort' Snodgrass.

    • @jamessheldon2410
      @jamessheldon2410 7 лет назад +7

      He is a clown to say F14 was not a fighter. that is the stupidest and most ignorant thing I have ever heard as far as aviation goes when it served mostly as a close range Navy fighter primarily for 40 years and its phenomenal BVR capabilities were rarely ever used. In the wake of the Vietnam war, Navy wanted an air superiority dog fighter that could also do extremely well in beyond visual range with the AMRAM and AWG9. The variable geometry wing was designed to give it the maximum manoeuvrability across a wide speed range while giving the lowest wing loading possible to make the F-14 add energy in vertical climbs. The Phoenix was never used in war settings by the Navy. Only Iran used Phoenix in some capacity. Only its dog fighting capabilities in its 40 years. It never lost a dog fight against any fighter including the MIG-29 or MIG-27. By 1987, the Navy was running out of fighters that could play the aggressor against the F-14 with well trained students so Navy ordered 30 F-16N Vipers that served as the aggressor between 1988 and 1993 in order to train F-14 fighter pilots on how to defeat the most modern, small agile fighters. Iran had a 160:1 kill ratio with it. Heck, the F-14 even took down F-15s with mock gun kills during the 1978 AIMVAL/ACEVAL USAF/US Navy joint evaluations to the point where Japan nearly cancelled its F15 orders. There are HUD videos available to the public by the Navy of F-14 moving in for gun kills on F-18 super hornet, F-16, F-15 and German MIG-29 in mock exercises. The F-14 went through extensive upgrades in the 90s including full glass cockpit and LANTRN pods and even when it was retired in 2006, the F-14D had the most powerful engines to date ever put into a fighter that made 60,000 lbsf thrust. It could do vertical unrestricted climbs up to Mach 0.9.

    •  7 лет назад +1

      Uhh, The F14 was classified as a fighter interceptor and tactical Recce for many years. Read up on fleet defense and how Iran employed so effectively against Iraq.

    • @aaronschram9486
      @aaronschram9486 7 лет назад +4

      Hey, be kind to Sideslip.
      I don't normally get into these things but I'm always interested to talk to an expert. As far as I know the F-16N didn't mount the J79. Because the US wouldn't allow export of the F-100 engine in the F-16A, there was an export program called the F-16/79 that was put out by General Dynamics as an alternative to countries looking to replace the F-5's they had with the F-5G and later F-20 Tigershark. The F-16N was a stripped down version of the F-16A offered to the Navy for DACT training. They pulled out some of the mission avionics to lower purchase and maintenance cost.
      The F-14 was classified as a Fleet Air Defense Fighter which is slightly different from Air Superiority. It was meant to operate as the outer ring of a CVBG air defense plan with the idea being that it would engage the Bear and Backfire bombers before they could acquire and launch on the CVBG with the giant anti ship missiles they carried. It was used in this capacity for the first half of it's life because the range and capability of the AWG-9 radar extended the coverage range of that which was provided by the Hawkeye. It spent hundreds of thousands of flight hours searching and tracking targets well beyond visual range. Just because it didn't prosecute those targets doesn't mean it wasn't filling that role. If you want to look at sheer kill ratio, nothing even approaches the F-15 which has killed far more targets. Also, the TF-30 engine made for an unreliable aircraft which is documented for being responsible for the deaths of more pilots than the aircraft ever shot down. Both the F-14B and the F-14D were used as strike platforms after the A-6E was retired.
      I was as much of a Tomcat fanboy as anybody but the numbers are why the F-14 was ended. When Grumman closed down the production line the parts availability dried up. Toward the end of it's life the Tomcat maintainers were having to pretty much make all the parts they needed from scratch. Also the Tomcat had a lot of maintenance items that required AIMD to handle them and couldn't be done on the flight line. A Tomcat squadron had 225 people with less in it as opposed to 180 in a Hornet squadron for this very reason. Ask any maintainer and they will tell you they loved the Tomcat more than anything but it was also a complete bastard to maintain.
      With all that being said, there will never be a plane that was more fun to watch beat up the pattern than the Tomcat.

  • @ericlakota1847
    @ericlakota1847 Год назад +1

    So sweet a jet just sits in over grown field I always forget how big those jets are over 50'

  • @-SANDMAN-
    @-SANDMAN- 5 лет назад +9

    You get me ONE square foot of that metal and I can turn that easily into $20,000 in my profession.

  • @lockheedx33
    @lockheedx33 Год назад +2

    This is just a pain to watch. Seeing these beautiful aircraft in such disrepair is heartbreaking…

  • @Jahanbakht1977
    @Jahanbakht1977 6 лет назад +4

    This video really saddened me! Two legendary birds abandoned in such horrible conditions...What a shame!

  • @bobbastion7335
    @bobbastion7335 6 лет назад +1

    They are beautiful, even in their current condition.

  • @Redslayer86
    @Redslayer86 5 лет назад +24

    I'd turn them into flight sim cabins lol

    • @CaptainFantastik1
      @CaptainFantastik1 4 года назад +7

      Hell yeah! Get my DCS running in there.

    • @zabercrombie24
      @zabercrombie24 4 года назад +2

      I was just gonna type that, im big in the DCS world and always wanted to build one .

    • @quadbrothers5801
      @quadbrothers5801 4 года назад +1

      I just got DCS. Haven’t bought anything yet but I have flown the p-51. I always blow the motor.

  • @domanickmartin4830
    @domanickmartin4830 Год назад +1

    If I had the money, I would slowly buy a bunch of F-14 parts from different places to eventually have a fully operational F-14.

  • @shootmcrunfast
    @shootmcrunfast 7 лет назад +5

    Sad to see these like this but I'd love to know the story behind them being there.

  • @AwesomeNinja1027
    @AwesomeNinja1027 2 года назад +2

    Seeing these images just breaks my heart. They should have been preserved for airshow purposes.

    • @curtekstrom9531
      @curtekstrom9531 2 года назад

      Where would to money come from tp Operate them for Air Shows.

  • @pairadice3186
    @pairadice3186 7 лет назад +4

    Theres also an a6 intruder there too!!

    • @TheJer1963
      @TheJer1963 4 года назад

      All that stuff is gone now. The Navy came down and had everything removed. Use to be a lot of comments about where these were but it looks like they have been removed now. You wouldn't believe how close they were to a bunch of houses.

  • @RW4X4X3006
    @RW4X4X3006 7 лет назад +1

    One of the truckers I work with was a Tomcat driver when he was a kid. This would upset him, surely.

  • @EvMstein
    @EvMstein 5 лет назад +10

    This is one of the finest flying machine of all time, it was a symbol of the aerodynamics know-how by all smart people in 60s
    I'm sad to see it get abandoned like this.. 😢
    T O M C A T

  • @charlesstiles342
    @charlesstiles342 Год назад +1

    This looks like the aircraft I have also seen abandoned in a vacant lot in Temple Texas. Find 16th street and drive north until it dead ends, walk about 120 yards northward on the trail worn in the grass and weeds.

  • @johnvinci3340
    @johnvinci3340 7 лет назад +4

    They are near a metal scrap yard no big secret if you ask my opinion

  • @missouriteebomb6337
    @missouriteebomb6337 4 года назад

    Beautiful artwork !