Few are talking about this. Sam Harris has spoken and written about it extensively in public spheres, but very little has been published in the way of scholarly articles. Thanks for taking the time to produce this video - equal parts useful and interesting. Keep the content coming, Pat!
Thank you very much for your kind words Jerry! I really appreciate it! I've been fascinated by the mixed response to Sam Harris' work online. Some people absolutely despise him and his work, and as I can see so far, there's not much reason to the hatred. It's reassuring to see some kindness directed his, and indeed my way! Useful and interesting... The exact note I want to strike. Happy days! Let me know if there's a topic you'd like covered. I'd be delighted to do my research and see what I can do!
A very interesting talk today Pat! Thankfully we are not faced with these type of dilemmas in our daily lives! I think that Clare and Redmond's call for more stories is a great call. The usefulness of stories cannot be overstated. Also, integration of different disciplines could lead to great progress. I'm also all for moving away from misery! Please keep these podcasts coming as they are really fascinating! Thanks!
Delighted you enjoyed the video Bernadette! It seems like we're right on the same track. Absolutely! More episodes coming soon about Irish psychology research. Have you anything you'd like me to cover in a future episode?
Hello, i am from Argentina and i am trying to understand the behavior of one profesional Neurocientist . His name is Facundo Manes and is constantily pushing in this few years on the political race in orde to get the mayor position of power , as a president. I do not know why have some afraid, because in the past i was a follower of him buying his books, but know i can recognize him doing things that he even mark in his books as "bad" or "negatives" way of behavior. I know is very specifi and granular question, but i have to try. THanks in advance and now you have a new follower :) .
Thank you so much for commenting! Although past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour, it is not a perfect predictor. Many people who behave in surprising ways may have surprising things happen to them, take a drastic brain injury for example. I'm not familiar specifically with Facundo Manes, but perhaps he has experienced something which has acutely changed the person you were familiar with, the man portrayed in his books. This is only speculation however. People are curious beings and we seem impossible to completely understand, at least at present! Thank you so much for following!Has this perspective been helpful?
Thanks a million for your kindness upROoted! Studying psychology was a very rewarding experience for me... I'm delighted you find my videos useful! Where are you thinking of pursuing your studies?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc Well Im located in the US so that's what I was leaning towards, a university called Naropa. I would love to study internationally. I am just worried about getting licensed in the US after my studies.
@@rootedro Just searched for Naropa there. What an interesting institution! I nearly studied in Boulder Colorado myself on exchange, but ended up at the University of Texas at Austin. Another beautiful place! If you get the chance to study internationally I would certainly recommend it. It was a challenging but wonderful experience for me. Qualifying as a licensed psychologist / psychotherapist is a frustratingly long and expensive road... a road I am currently travelling down. If you're confident the path is for you, I say go for it! As David Brooks, author of The Road To Character convinced me, sometimes something being difficult is not a reason to avoid that something - but a reason to pursue that something. What is the biggest roadblock for you to achieve licensure in the US?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc Wow what level of studies did you receive in Austin? Well I haven't even begun the journey but I am assuming that the biggest roadblock is the fact that each state has different licensure requirements. Being the nomadic person I am, I have no idea where I will end up settling down so this adds a considerable layer of complication. This is also the reason why I opted out of pursuing a Master's internationally. I would be afraid it wouldn't fulfill the requirements. I definitely agree. A road worth pursuing is rarely the easiest one presented.
@@rootedro I did a year of my undergraduate degree in Neuroscience there. A beautiful and fantastic university! It blew my home university, University College Dublin, clean out of the water. You're of a similar ilk to myself so. I like to travel around as well, which means accreditation is probably always going to be a bit problematic. I think (hope) that once regular records of practice hours and supervision are kept, that licensing will always be doable, but unfortunately probably a little painful. If you're considering living/working in Europe, I'd recommend checking out the the European Certificate of Psychotherapy. It has standards that are adopted by most EU member states regarding professional practice. Similarly, the British Psychological Society has a fairly standard licensing rubric for professional psychologists. Hopefully their guidelines would give you an idea of what would qualify you for licensing as a psychotherapist/psychologist... internationally at least!
As an addition to rat empathy, I saw this study done on a type of antelope where they produced sounds of a baby in distress, and the antelope stopped to make sure it was ok. The strange part was that it didn't matter the species of baby animal in distress. Kind of a universal child care system. More evidence to animal morality.
@@PatsPsychologyMSc This was the study in a snap shot, there may be more information elsewhere. www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2760764/Mammals-respond-distress-calls-newborns-regardless-species.html I saw it on "The Nature Of Things" a Canadian documentary show
@@dinoguy1238 Brilliant! Thank you so much for finding and sharing it with me. A really novel study with some very interesting findings. Off the back of the news article you shared, I found the original research paper from researchers Susan Lingle and Tobias Riede. I love that the paper is free and available to general readers from the public doi.org/10.1086/677677 I wonder if we humans have a tendency to anthropomorphise animal behaviour, that we project our own humanity onto other animals motivation. I wonder if there might be a non-moral explanation for these kinds of behaviours. What do you think?
This was an interesting discussion, it's quite fascinating that just by tweaking the brain a bit we can dramatically modify a person's actions. Really makes me wonder how much free will we really have over our actions.
Thank you Joshua! Absolutely. I adopt a determinist view, something I find freeing and compassionate. I don't deny deny the distinction between volitional and automatic actions, but do deny free will personally! Out of curiosity, if the idea of free will was disproven, would you be upset?
I'm loving your videos! I'm currently working towards my Master's in Clinical Mental Health Counseling, and I'm finding your videos to be very interesting. Based on the content of this video, do you think that some people are born without hope of being what we consider good? If someone's neurology is "off", is it possible for them to contribute to society in a productive way or does our neurology determine our ability to be moral?
Hi Amaris, I'm delighted you're finding my videos very interesting! That's a very interesting question. I think an important consideration is the plasticity of the brain, and the capacity for the brain to learn. Imagine a person with a genetic predisposition to violence - I can imagine such a person never engaging in criminality, perhaps due to protective factors like a loving family, effective education, and emotional supports. I can also imagine a similar person committing an atrocity despite experiencing what seem to be protective factors. Also, despite perhaps making intuitive sense, it's very hard to define the terms you use "what we consider good", "productive", and "moral". I'd be really curious to see your expansion on these terms! What do you think?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc You are very correct in saying that it's hard to define the terms "what we consider good", "productive", and "moral". The meaning behind these terms seem to be defined based on the culture that one finds herself in. I suppose that being able to learn the social norms of one's culture plays a major role in "being moral" (following the standards that are set by society). On a slightly different note, I've heard that those who are diagnosed with psychopathy (or, if going by the DSM-V, anti-social personality disorder) generally have a less reactive amygdala and generally do not have strong neural connections between the vmPFC and the amygdala. Is this true, and what are your thoughts/findings on this?
@@amarisy6211 absolutely Amaris! I'll have to put my hands up and say I'm not familiar with the neurology of psychopathy. I'd be curious to hear more about what you learned from your studies though?
Few are talking about this. Sam Harris has spoken and written about it extensively in public spheres, but very little has been published in the way of scholarly articles. Thanks for taking the time to produce this video - equal parts useful and interesting. Keep the content coming, Pat!
Thank you very much for your kind words Jerry! I really appreciate it! I've been fascinated by the mixed response to Sam Harris' work online. Some people absolutely despise him and his work, and as I can see so far, there's not much reason to the hatred. It's reassuring to see some kindness directed his, and indeed my way!
Useful and interesting... The exact note I want to strike. Happy days!
Let me know if there's a topic you'd like covered. I'd be delighted to do my research and see what I can do!
Brilliant, lucid account and analysis. Thank you Pat. Very stimulating and thought provoking!
Thanks Richard, I'm glad you enjoyed the episode! Did you find yourself strongly agreeing/disagreeing at particular points in my presentation?
A very interesting talk today Pat! Thankfully we are not faced with these type of dilemmas in our daily lives! I think that Clare and Redmond's call for more stories is a great call. The usefulness of stories cannot be overstated. Also, integration of different disciplines could lead to great progress. I'm also all for moving away from misery! Please keep these podcasts coming as they are really fascinating! Thanks!
Delighted you enjoyed the video Bernadette! It seems like we're right on the same track. Absolutely! More episodes coming soon about Irish psychology research. Have you anything you'd like me to cover in a future episode?
Hello, i am from Argentina and i am trying to understand the behavior of one profesional Neurocientist . His name is Facundo Manes and is constantily pushing in this few years on the political race in orde to get the mayor position of power , as a president. I do not know why have some afraid, because in the past i was a follower of him buying his books, but know i can recognize him doing things that he even mark in his books as "bad" or "negatives" way of behavior. I know is very specifi and granular question, but i have to try. THanks in advance and now you have a new follower :) .
Thank you so much for commenting! Although past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour, it is not a perfect predictor. Many people who behave in surprising ways may have surprising things happen to them, take a drastic brain injury for example. I'm not familiar specifically with Facundo Manes, but perhaps he has experienced something which has acutely changed the person you were familiar with, the man portrayed in his books. This is only speculation however. People are curious beings and we seem impossible to completely understand, at least at present!
Thank you so much for following!Has this perspective been helpful?
You are so lovely. I am thinking about getting a master's in Psych! Im glad I found your channel
Thanks a million for your kindness upROoted! Studying psychology was a very rewarding experience for me... I'm delighted you find my videos useful! Where are you thinking of pursuing your studies?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc Well Im located in the US so that's what I was leaning towards, a university called Naropa. I would love to study internationally. I am just worried about getting licensed in the US after my studies.
@@rootedro Just searched for Naropa there. What an interesting institution!
I nearly studied in Boulder Colorado myself on exchange, but ended up at the University of Texas at Austin. Another beautiful place!
If you get the chance to study internationally I would certainly recommend it. It was a challenging but wonderful experience for me.
Qualifying as a licensed psychologist / psychotherapist is a frustratingly long and expensive road... a road I am currently travelling down. If you're confident the path is for you, I say go for it! As David Brooks, author of The Road To Character convinced me, sometimes something being difficult is not a reason to avoid that something - but a reason to pursue that something.
What is the biggest roadblock for you to achieve licensure in the US?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc Wow what level of studies did you receive in Austin?
Well I haven't even begun the journey but I am assuming that the biggest roadblock is the fact that each state has different licensure requirements. Being the nomadic person I am, I have no idea where I will end up settling down so this adds a considerable layer of complication.
This is also the reason why I opted out of pursuing a Master's internationally. I would be afraid it wouldn't fulfill the requirements.
I definitely agree. A road worth pursuing is rarely the easiest one presented.
@@rootedro I did a year of my undergraduate degree in Neuroscience there. A beautiful and fantastic university! It blew my home university, University College Dublin, clean out of the water.
You're of a similar ilk to myself so. I like to travel around as well, which means accreditation is probably always going to be a bit problematic. I think (hope) that once regular records of practice hours and supervision are kept, that licensing will always be doable, but unfortunately probably a little painful.
If you're considering living/working in Europe, I'd recommend checking out the the European Certificate of Psychotherapy. It has standards that are adopted by most EU member states regarding professional practice. Similarly, the British Psychological Society has a fairly standard licensing rubric for professional psychologists. Hopefully their guidelines would give you an idea of what would qualify you for licensing as a psychotherapist/psychologist... internationally at least!
As an addition to rat empathy, I saw this study done on a type of antelope where they produced sounds of a baby in distress, and the antelope stopped to make sure it was ok. The strange part was that it didn't matter the species of baby animal in distress. Kind of a universal child care system. More evidence to animal morality.
Wow, that sounds incredibly interesting. I'd love to see that study! Do you know where to find it?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc
This was the study in a snap shot, there may be more information elsewhere. www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2760764/Mammals-respond-distress-calls-newborns-regardless-species.html
I saw it on "The Nature Of Things" a Canadian documentary show
@@dinoguy1238 Brilliant! Thank you so much for finding and sharing it with me. A really novel study with some very interesting findings. Off the back of the news article you shared, I found the original research paper from researchers Susan Lingle and Tobias Riede. I love that the paper is free and available to general readers from the public doi.org/10.1086/677677
I wonder if we humans have a tendency to anthropomorphise animal behaviour, that we project our own humanity onto other animals motivation. I wonder if there might be a non-moral explanation for these kinds of behaviours. What do you think?
This was an interesting discussion, it's quite fascinating that just by tweaking the brain a bit we can dramatically modify a person's actions. Really makes me wonder how much free will we really have over our actions.
Thank you Joshua! Absolutely. I adopt a determinist view, something I find freeing and compassionate. I don't deny deny the distinction between volitional and automatic actions, but do deny free will personally!
Out of curiosity, if the idea of free will was disproven, would you be upset?
I'm loving your videos! I'm currently working towards my Master's in Clinical Mental Health Counseling, and I'm finding your videos to be very interesting. Based on the content of this video, do you think that some people are born without hope of being what we consider good? If someone's neurology is "off", is it possible for them to contribute to society in a productive way or does our neurology determine our ability to be moral?
Hi Amaris, I'm delighted you're finding my videos very interesting! That's a very interesting question. I think an important consideration is the plasticity of the brain, and the capacity for the brain to learn. Imagine a person with a genetic predisposition to violence - I can imagine such a person never engaging in criminality, perhaps due to protective factors like a loving family, effective education, and emotional supports. I can also imagine a similar person committing an atrocity despite experiencing what seem to be protective factors.
Also, despite perhaps making intuitive sense, it's very hard to define the terms you use "what we consider good", "productive", and "moral". I'd be really curious to see your expansion on these terms! What do you think?
@@PatsPsychologyMSc You are very correct in saying that it's hard to define the terms "what we consider good", "productive", and "moral". The meaning behind these terms seem to be defined based on the culture that one finds herself in. I suppose that being able to learn the social norms of one's culture plays a major role in "being moral" (following the standards that are set by society). On a slightly different note, I've heard that those who are diagnosed with psychopathy (or, if going by the DSM-V, anti-social personality disorder) generally have a less reactive amygdala and generally do not have strong neural connections between the vmPFC and the amygdala. Is this true, and what are your thoughts/findings on this?
@@amarisy6211 absolutely Amaris! I'll have to put my hands up and say I'm not familiar with the neurology of psychopathy. I'd be curious to hear more about what you learned from your studies though?
How about we make it simple, and just do what's legal.
Thanks for commenting Kyle! May I ask what in the video your referring to?
Because what's legal isn't always right.