Do You Know Why Mom's Panda is So Big in TURNING RED
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- This is why Mei’s mom Ming Lee turns into a red panda that’s massively bigger than all the others in Turning Red. Here's a hint about the answer to the secret, it may have something to do with the best boyband in the world 4Town.
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Very interesting, amigo. It makes quite a lot of sense considering that Ming, who bottled up her emotion when she was younger, only did so because Grandma Wu was very strict, as well as old school. So, the mother-daughter relationship between Ming and Wu was stressful for Ming in more ways than we can begin to imagine.
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Also San yee turns smaller later
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This movie really gives a whole lot levels of a mother-daughter Relationship. Like Ming is very protective towards her daughter while at the same time, Mei wants to live her life and be whoever she is without so much protection from her mother. We can’t blame our parents though, but we just have to prove them that we’re not a little child anymore and that they have to deal with us growing up and live a good life.
I thought ming's was big because of her pent up stress and pressure she and everyone else puts on her to be perfect, and that a single small thing outside her control would make her lose her composure and make excessive attempts to overcompensate.
That's one of the reasons too
This is the case here. If you notice how Ming reacted when her mother called for the first time on the phone, she immediately coward in fear, hesitating to take the call, you can imagine the kind of resentment and angst she had towards her own mother. Another subtle detail to notice later on when Grandma Wu shows up, if you look at the reflection in her sunglasses when talking to Mei, you see Ming standing off to the side with a look of guilt and resentment over what happened between her and her own mother.
In my opinion, if the story centered around Ming and her Mother and Meilin Lee being the glue to bring them back together I believe this would have worked out also, although this would mean that all of the Coming of Age setting and Comedy elements would be more redundant but I would love to see how they would have executed this plot
Bandit theory...doesnt hold up. Mei's dad mentioned Ming has going Kaiju before.....during an argument with her mom over him. no one taking anything away.....unless you count him taking her heart which she wanted....its just super raw emotion. if Mei's highest emotion was a 5 (my guess that does it) it makes her normal big...but Ming was a 10. I think it works like the Hulk...its not the reason but the anger ammount
Perhaps Ming was abnormally large during the argument with her mom because she felt like her mother was taking away someone/something extremely important to her. Imagine that she had bottled up her emotions and desires for so very long. She felt trapped by her own fears and anxiety, burdened by her mother's high expectations and unyielding control. Then she met Jin. A man who is kind, loving, and understanding. When Ming's mother disapproves of Jin, she is essentially taking away Ming's chance at being loved and accepted by someone else. Her mother is threatening the possibility Ming has of living a life different from her current life of repression and self hate.
Just a theory...🤔
@@Usedfood004 true....we've seen Mei at a 10. when her mom showed up a level 10 embarassment.....the first night...was a level 10 sad. i put it at levels. with 10 being highest. clearly mei was just as emptional as ming when her pendent broke so why wasnt she kaiju. is it rage enduced?
disney+ should really make a sequel or tv series. I feel there is more to tell.
Correct
@@PowerStruggle555 why do you put a lot of pauses in your sentences
2:23 I just realised, Robaire holding Mei like this is a reference to the movie _Dirty Dancing_ . :)
It works even better because both movies are set two decades prior to when they came out, with _Turning Red_ having just come out and set in the 2000s, while _Dirty Dancing_ came out in the 80s and is set in the 60s.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
@@weedleisopcute3626 there are no accidents/coincidences
Makes sense.
I think I'll have to disagree, only because Mei's dad told her that when her mother and her grandma fought over him, she was still giant. I thought Ming's panda was big because she's destructive when she got angry.
lol ... i commnet like this too... i agree with you
it also was confirmed that they don't get larger when more angered but it was thought of
@@theinkyblowfish As i know
The original story is much more complicated so the movie maker have to reduce anything that was too complicated to make it in the movie
At the scene ming show mei the art of sun yee we can clearly see san yee also have two size one giant red panda and a much smaller one carry her kid
So in the origin story mei and her family also have panda size change base on emotions and in the finals fight mei was humiliating by her mother enough for mei turn gigantic like ming and there was a kaiju red panda battle..
But it was too complicated so they simplify it to everyone stay at a single size and not change size base on emotions
But they still keep the origin story past ( ming lee and her mother fight in gigantic size )
yeah I noticed that too
Well she is probably pretty mad back then. It's not like she's gonna accept it
The thing is we see Sung Yi’s size in the end when she flys Meiling up at the end. The reason Ming Lee’s panda isnt as big when they are trapping the panda again, its because you couldn’t fit the panda through the portal.
Another reference to 4☆Town being 'Bandits' could be the fact that they first appeared on stage in cages, like criminals. This was probably intended to be like song-birds, as they 'sprout' wings a moment later, but it works both ways
disprove and she should shove OFF
The story explained by Mei’s father shows that when she was young, her red panda was very big. He was not surprised when she transformed back because she had always been this size in her red panda form. Even though these points could be correct, she had no daughter or similar relationship when her transformation began (as a young person). She was not trying to protect someone. Her relationship with her mother and the disagreement about Mei’s dad could sum up these feelings but this would mean that there is more than just what is said in this video.
In the bamboo forest, when Mei encounters young Ming, she kind of explains what caused her to become Godzilla sized panda. I.e. that she got tired of being perfect and having to do everything that her mother tells her to do that she got angry, which resulted in hitting her mother (Grandma Wu), which is possible that the scar on Grandma Wu's brow was caused by that.
Interesting, however, then how do you describe how Ming Lee was so big BEFORE Mei was born? Remember, Mei's dad said she was big...
Mei's dad say Ming Lee destroy half of the temple, i think she was not as big that time
@@Firzzzza yeah, but no one said anything about Ming Lee becoming bigger. The dad just downplayed his description of Ming Lee's panda but in the end, he knew it was that big.
Again, my point is, no one that saw her turned panda before got surprised she was that big. They are just afraid that she might stay that way.
well- to be fair, when she was younger she was still bottling up her emotions all the time, her constant anger and sadness towards her mom were constantly bottled up so whenever she'd let out the panda, it would probably still be huge.
She was forced to be perfect and bottle her emotions and Ming's mother didn't approve of Mei's father. I think that's a good reason
It's a figurative image (a phrase I just made up that means, she wasn't REALLY that big, it just demonstrates the feeling)
What about that one comment her dad made about how he knew her “panda” was really big
You just had to say it
Thats what i thought
Becaus he even said he saw it
most likely it was taller than the grandmother, like slightly bigger during her fight with her mother.
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From my interpretation of the film, I dont think this is the reason for her being so big. I think the reason is due to how often the panda has come out, how many times.
first evidence: The father told Meilyn (idk if I spelled it right) about Ming's big panda form, which meant that it wasnt just at the end of the movie that she was big
Second evidence: Mei's panda is always consistent throughout the movie, it doesnt matter if its sadness, excitement, or rage that brought out her panda, it was always the same size (I assume the size change occurs over a long period of time)
Third evidence: The aunts and grandmother's forms are a bit bigger than Mei's, which would make sense, they're older so have likely had their pandas come out more, however they were able to seal it away quickly before it got too out of hand. whereas in this theory that its directly just emotions, they'd probably be as big as Mei, as they had the same reason: determination to save Ming
Fourth evidence: They stated near the beginning that the more the panda comes out, the stronger and harder to seal it gets, but I assume this strength also is correlated to size too
I always thought the grandma & cousins/aunts were bigger than Mei because they're older than her. Mei's Panda might get a little bigger as she grows up. She's only a kid right now. She also used her Panda many times every single day for a whole month for minutes to hours. Based on your theory, she would def have grown at least a little bit by then.
@@raeanajones8036 thats fair, I know my theory has some flaws, but I still think it makes sense, especially with them always saying the pandas got stronger the more they came out
@@fyra_cat2119 I think they meant it would be harder for them during the ritual. Like Mei used hers a lot & it was hard for her to detach herself from her panda. But the rest of them had it easy since they haven't used theirs for years & years.. that's my take on it but I hope the writers give us answers to these questions. In an interview, second movie, or a series, we need all the answers😭😭
Dude, imagine if one female member of Mei's family felt the strongest emotion possible. They could be the size of fucking Unicron, a PLANET-SIZED TRANSFORMER!
Yeah transformers are cooler than Turning Shit
Theory the mom has still getting her time of the month and the old ladys are done with theirs so the mom has more period panda power than anyone
Fan story : remember what told ming's grandmother, that they were close to each other before,and I think that when she's high school she has huge crush with mei's dad and grew each more loved same as her grandmother. When they were ready to tell the truth, her grandmother didn't want to accept him (mei's dad) and her daughter ming furious as hell ming's was soo angry that her panda hid it well was exposed she hid it well when she was 15 but the size was different than before it is gigantic, she have a fight with her grandmother that event they argue and argue as mei's dad watching hopelessly her mad made her mother hurt as sadly she cried with tears from what she'd done soo she had decided to seal this monster and forget from the past. As years by, she decided she had to protect to her daughter from emotions so she planned to don't make mei any friends and relationships she hates every teenagers because she don't want her daughter suffered from she did before so that's why her mother was very aware to mei's wants (like going on the concert) friends and relationships
personally i think it revolves around what brought the panda out in the first place. my theory about how pandas reveal themselves is when the panda holder experiences the most emotion they have felt in their life. for mei she felt a lot of different emotions, all pretty strong the night before she got her panda. and in this theory i’m assuming ming’s panda came out when her mom disapproved of jin. and we also know ming felt a lot more pressure than mei which caused her emotions to burst out, making her panda bigger. since the panda is basically a defense mechanism it would make sense the size changes depending on how in danger the panda holder feels to accommodate with the danger level. so maybe the reason ming’s panda was so big was because she felt a lot of emotion and felt in danger which caused her panda to be huge.
Ming Lee: Aight Imma turn into a really big panda
Meanwhile Eren: "Hold my spinal fluid."
Hahahha lol
eren vs ming
ming: it time to get angry
asura: hold my bear
I don't agree. Mei's father has seen Ming's panda before and it was always this huge. And the panda don't really change in size if they did filmmakers would have hinted it somewhere. For sure Mei's emotional outburst throughout the movie was not of the same calibre. If we go by the emotion logic than maybe it depends on how emotional they are generally. Or their ability to control emotions.
The fact that Mei Meis dad talks about her moms huge form and then at the end saying "I told you she was big" dissproofs your theory. It ends up proveing that bottled up emotions and\or intense emotions are what cause the panda size. Mei Meis wasn't that big becauae she had her friends to take away the stress. Where her mom only had Meis dad but even so that wasn't till later in life amounting to huge amount and cantity of bottled up emotions.
I don’t think this is true because in the movie the husband says mei’s mom is big
This is a very interesting theory, but when the grandmas get rid of their pandas and mei is the only one left in the bamboo forest, you see Sung Yi transform into her red panda with Mei and it isn’t big.
1:15 I LIKE GYRATING
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"their wings gyrate through the water like paddle wheels" or dance in a wild or suggestive manner.
"strippers gyrated to rock music on a low stage"
But didn't the dad know how big she was and other people?
Damn. I feel like I just spoiled myself. But that's my fault. Plus, I feel like this just calmed down my brain with all of these trailers and clips just confusing the crap out of me.
If you're like mei, 13 yo into boys and stuff and especially being a perfect only child or just one with siblings, its pretty relatable but this also counts if you're none of the above cept ofc for the 13 yo part. Like me, I literally relate zero to mei except for a few parts but its still pretty relatable
That honestly sounds even cooler.
Fun fact: They we’re originally gonna make Meis panda gigantic too become she was so mad at her mother
That's actually the first idea, it's explained by the crew behind Turning Red.
The size was determined by emotions but it was scrapped because it was confusing and inconsistent (CMIIW) also, the original plan was to make Mei and her Mom fight like Godzilla vs Kong in the middle of the city... But it's scrapped because it's going too far from the main topic which is kids growing up.
so they made it that Mei stay in the same size no matter how strong her emotion is, and just made her mom as big as kaiju without much explanation.
So it’s just Disney’s version of super saiyan.
i have a theory thoo!! jin (mei's dad) said that even before her mother was already that big, and when she turned once ming lee and her mother fought because of jin....but it may be bigger then that when she was protecting/ fighting for something even bigger, mei. maybe at the time she first turned into a red panda she was already pregnant with mei hence why defending and protecting over jin was a big deal at the time...
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I actually kinda disagree, because of the line from Mei's Dad Jim. It could be that the size is dependent little control you have over your emotions.
And because when not in panda form Ming is the one that never seems to be able to keep her cool and is always a little over the top we see this is her personality, and so it would make sense that this would be the size of her panda.
I think if the particular emotional outbreak determined the size that we would see Mei's Panda vary over the course of the movie.
I also think you can't really use what's seen in the spirit realm as evidence for what happens outside of the spirit realm.
Jim describes Ming's panda as huge, even when it wasn't a conflict about "raiders" threatening her daughter.
The size of ming's panda gives greater justification for why the pandas must be locked up, but Mei's great ability to control her plus the smaller size presents the characters with reason for why it should be Mei's choice
Not Jim. Jin.
Dang my mom was right she doesn’t even watch movies that much as me-
that kind of make sence and i love ur work great job
POV: Anger issues as a furry.
nah i think you're overcomplicating the answer here, it was clearly the animators making the best "yo mama fat" joke that the world's ever seen
she got so angry she unleashed mingzilla🐼
I actually thought it was because she was the matriarch you know the one supposed to protect everyone else.
i would listen to ming lee
I thought it was big because she has a necklace, right? I think its the necklace that it has a connection about Sun Yee or its about Sun Yee, so the red panda of Sun Yee, which was huge, went on mints body ( if it makes any sense ) so thats my theory.
I think it’s wrong because Mei dad told Mei that your mom used to be was very big
I disagree, I think they all just differ in sizes and it doesn't depend on their emotions. Remember when Mei's Dad mentioned that when her mom and her GRANDMA fought, he mentioned that Mei Ling's Panda is gigantic and almost destroyed half of the temple. Mei Lings panda shouldn't be that big since she's mad at her mom, and there's nothing to with bandits
FRRRRRR agreed
Mingzilla queen of red pandas
My brother said its a redpandazilla
Okay but like, did no one think to call the cops when a GIANT RED PANDA WAS WALKING THROUGH A MAJOR CITY!?!?
Unless they did, but I haven't watched the movie and I don't plan on watching the movie.
My guess was because she’s the mom lol
Ming probaly has so much intense emotions it all festered into a BIG intense anger
Like a Godzilla red panda... That sounds both adorible and terrifying.
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Imagine everyone transform into their favorite animal or mythical creatures with strong emotions
Makes sense. Also why it was big when she was defending the dad. Because Grams was trying to “take him” away from her
If you'll notice, the Grandma pauses at entering the portal and appears for a second or two to ponder on keeping her Panda, but decides to get rid of it anyway. There's lots of little comedic bits too. Abby's face and body language as Mei's Panda tells the truth to her massive Panda Mom is absolutely hysterical. 😆
I think that the real reason is the intensity of the emotions the first time you use it is what uses the size remember when Mei talks to her father he said that her first time using or the first time he saw her using it was about Mei's grandma didn't like Mei's father so that would possibly explain the size of her red panda and why Mei's was the smallest due to hers being caused by a dream
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This actually make sense. There really isn’t much lore to Turning Red and it is pretty understandable, but if there ever turns out to be a series or sequel or something I would like to see it focus more on story. Because I feel like the story can go deeper
Makes sense why Ming's red panda is way bigger than the others. She kept her intense emotions sealed up for a long time, and when Mei abandons the ritual to attend the 4*Town concert, Ming lets her inner beast run rampant, then she undergoes her transformation and BOOM! She becomes a Godzilla-sized red panda! I'm not gonna lie, it's honestly terrifying how pissed she gets!
"She was a bit big"
-Mei's Father
Mum said "she was so angry that she turned into an angery Giant Panda" hmmm smart
I wish I could see a giant red panda fighting a kaiju
reminds me how, in the owl house, lilith's owl form is much bigger than eda's
That’s some genius writing
I can see why Ming's husband married her.
He's got a thing for pandzilla women.
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that is actually so cool
Hmm, it does seem obvious, reasonable and a little ludicrous for Ming’s overprotectiveness
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Ming's panda make me think of Pacific Rim
I think its because she bottled up her emotions and she was over emotional
If Turning Red 2 is possible I wouldn't mind Mei's family deciding to keep their pandas too in it since Mei is happy keeping hers and I bet her dad is one too.
And I wonder who would be the main antagonist in Turning Red 2.
This is a good theory! I'm not 100% sold on it myself, but it's good nonetheless.
Ming Lee = KAIJU KAREN
It all make sense now. Thx
That make sense now
Finally someone understands me
I thought it was because how angry she can get?🤔
I could be wrong
their ancestor, sungy....
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My theory: it's bigger because the emotions are stronger then when (for example) you see a boy you like
Well,to me,I think its because on how much problem you bottled up before you turn into a giant red panda. Mei didint have that much problems,so her panda is the smallest in the movie. Also Ming Lee said "I thought I had more time" in the temple,also when shes crying at the ritual,you can tell she got her red panda later than Mei,since this movie is about puberty and periods.
the movie is not about puberty and periods as much as it is coming of age and becoming your own person and the strain that has on the mother daughter relationship. Plenty of parents refuse to see their child is growing up or acknowledge it and wait beyond the last minute to even consider such a thing. I think they mentioned it because having a period is an undeniable signal that your baby is growing up when they can technically have babies of their own.
I know it's based on emotion, but I doubt it was 4town that made her that big. Because her panda has always been big. Even the husband has seen it. No one was surprised about the size, meaning her panda has always been big.
I believe it's because of her repressed emotions for years, mei Mei is the youngest panda in the family, but the rest got their pandas as adults with mind changing to confront her mother about marrying her husband.
So I don't think it's 4town, but instense emotions, Ming's own are really intense especially since she surpresses it most of the timw
This is similar to a theory I stated in another video. Ming Lee is the middle child among her sisters. I figured the panda’s size is dependent on the fight-or-flight induced stress levels. And it is psychological that the middle sibling is sometimes used as an emotional punching bag from both ends, and attend to go through all other kinds of emotional struggles. In a way, the theory in this video makes a little more sense than mine. And here I thought Ming is afraid of failing her mother for not being the ideal perfect daughter, causing all of that bottled emotions to go volcanic. (-w-u)
1:38 y'know a perfect monsterverse monster that would fight ming in my opin would be mechagodzilla
ming wants mei very safe
But might Lee's panda was in the necklace mei meis entire life
They took the "your mom is big" joke too far
im pretty sure thats real from turning red nice job
No, its not working like that. In the movie, we can hear that ming's panda was huge before movie, soo the size depends on the first Ever emotion before your panda shows the first time. Soo because ming's first time was a problem with mom not accepting her love, panda became big, but the Mei's panda was always small, because her first emotion was just fear, which wasnt soo big at all
Its because the size of the panda makes refrences of the periods mei:light,small panda and ming:heavy gigantic panda
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I like the theory as to why she was so much larger, but I kinda like the theory about the panda's being based on one's flow XD
3:23 you hear that? No one mess with Canada
Vent your emotions in a healthy way - your red panda is the size of your closet
Bottle up your emotions for years - your red panda is the size of a 10-story building
1:38 That's because the giant Red Panda is literally a Godzilla monster
high as a godzilla :0
Another fun movie fact! In the timeline 2:01 you can see a glimpse of a sticker what looks to be a bunny carrying a backpack. It was actually Disney's film named Burrow! A short animated film made by Pixar Animation Studios. Bet you didn't see that one coming!
the fact that the 4 town is in cages at the start of the concert
okay okay i know this sounds crazy but can you imagine mei crossing paths with hiro hamada and the others from big hero 6 and turning into a superhero? that would be so dope!
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So the plot is saying, you have to be so pissed out, you turn into a panda. Works for me
i figured it was because it was in the year 2002 and a panda that size would be needed to fight a war in that era.
Why is it called four town they have 5 boys in their band
This was my theory!!