Early Retro AR15s Part 1: Colt SP1, M16A1
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024
- For the 4th of July, we always like to do a video focusing on an American firearm. This year, we are taking another look at early AR15s, Vietnam through the Gulf War eras.
Featured in this series are a 1965 Colt SP1 Rifle, Nodak Spud M16A1 build, Troy GAU-5A/A carbine, 1978 Colt SP1 Carbine, Colt M16A2 build, and an original style Colt M4 Carbine. Also, we take a brief look at some military mag pouches and a couple bayonets.
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I love these videos, especially after winding down for the day, a storm outside, scotch on ice. Smooooovvvvv..... listening. Thumbs up my man !
It helps me relax too
I have a 72 colt ar-15 sp1! Things mint. Paid 1999 and have no regrets! Its a brand new or "NOS" gun. 😊
Excellent video of an gorgeous 1965 SP1! Finally someone who knows what he is talking about! The SP1 is patterned after the Model 602 "02". Since Colt probably engineered the SP1 around 1962/63 the rifle in production at the time for the military was the Model 602. The SP1 is a dead ringer for the 602 as you can see the slab side upper and lower which is exactly what the 602 had. The roll markings are exactly the same on the SP1 as a later Model 602 except the "Model 02" marking was changed to "Model SP1" for the civilian AR-15, and no Property of US Gov't roll marking as well. Some people say the SP1 looks more like a 604, but the 604 had a captive pin partial and later full fence lower so it is closer to the Model 602 with its non-captive pin slab side lower. Colt decided to just keeping the civilian Model 602 running and just eventually adding feature improvements like trap door buttstocks with fixed sling swivels, new buffer and tube, no roll pinned buffer tube extension, serrated bolt carriers, cotter pin firing pin retainer, new firing pin, parkerized and strengthened "shot peened" bolt, chrome plated chamber and eventually bore, new stainless gas tube, forged front sight base with forging marks, riveted front sling swivel, drainage hole handguards, birdcage flash suppressors etc. Of course these new features went to Military production rifles before Civilians got them so there was a delay. Colt never gave us the M16A1 forward assist and full fence lowers until decades later.
Yep, all good & correct info based on my research too. The only real major difference with the SP1 is the enlarged front takedown pin and the double headed screw it uses. Lots of interesting variations with the early SP1s (1964-1969 lets say) too.
I don't know how you retain all those facts and figures and recall them off the top of your head. You surely have flash cards hidden off camera. I wish I had your knowledge when I prowl around at the local gun shows. Impressive.
Even if i had flash cards, they wouldn't do me much good lol. I was a teacher, so i got used to memorizing facts and details....it helps with guns today.
Really clean looking Sp1 for how old it is.
Thanks, truth is I put the first rounds through it myself. It was your basic safe queen before me hehe. I don't shoot it often, but just couldn't resist a few times. It is lighter than a modern Colt M4 Commando with its 11.5" barrel actually.
lol drive by bayoneting...
Thanks for the video, I have many of these old AR/M16 clones and a couple NG uppers like yours, love this old guns :)
Very interesting info man. Your collection of military classics is stunning!. I'm in the middle of a Nodak-Spud M16A1 build at the moment. Still looking for a good quality and true A1 profile barrel. Leaning towards the Brownells branded "Retro AR-15/M16" offering.
Green Mountain Barrels is now buildin the original 1/14 20" pencil barrel for $167! I have one on the way. It was only the cold weather tests that prompted the change to 1/12.... The cold dense sub zero air made the bullet inaccurate with 1/14. But that not generally a problem in Texas. The test 1/14 barrels of project Agile were horrid wound producers with M193
That is ridiculously awesome.
Do you like your AR-15s clean and simple, or "tacticool"? Personally, for the clean look, I like SIG SG 550s, AK rifles, and vz.58s. I like over the top tactical AR-15s.
While I like my M16A4 (AR15A4) and M4A1 (FN15 M4) a lot, i am a classic AR guy at heart. I really like how light and handy they are. Plus there is just something about old style bakelite.
Yeah I'm like you drift, all Aks sigs etc I like them in original clean non tactical look, but my ARs I like tactical but also practical and with that being said the retro AR15s are among some of my favorite rifles.
Having had both classic mil issue config, and tacti-cool, I jokingly refer to as a TMS Mark 1
( Too Much Shit) I prefer the simple, with a Aimpoint added. A 11 pound M4gery is not my idea of a great time at the end of the day.
+Johnny Lewis Yeah well I like the old ARs for their history and I really just love the classical look. That being said as a real fighting rifle, they aren't really realistic in today's age. If you run an AR today, you at least have a red dot on it and a flash light, if it's for defensive purposes.
+ZzBiohazzardzZ
Lol I've been using AR15 and M16 variants since 1977, Went Trough HK's SWAT school in 1986, was in law enforcement up through 2004 when I broke my spine on duty.... I'm second chance vest save #802.... And I never once had a light on my rifle when I pointed it at people on high risk warrants..... I can make do with or without all the bells and whistles.. If you can't you need to learn to ( batterys and electronics have a real habit of not working when needed)
Well said Mr. Orbison...
EVIL!!!
Nice! 65 model! Been looking for a 65 or 66 model in mint condition
Early '65s look the same as '64s, except for not having the dimpled takedown pin.
Late '65s look pretty much the same as all '66s and the early '67s. Late '67s though, they quit rollpinning the receiver extension into the receiver, but there is still a pilot hole for it at least. Also of course the machined bolt pin is long gone.
The cutoff serial for early vs late/standard SP1s seems to be right at 10,000-10,500.
I know someone who has a '64 SP1, with a Winchester 1/14 twist barrel, so they were really reaching into the old parts bin that day! I'd love to buy it off him someday just for the novelty.
I really wanna get a SP1, great vid mishaco.
Yep, you should. Its the original AR15 and a lot of fun to boot.
got mine on gun broker...the 1968 and earlier ones have the original features but aren't cheap.
Which tinty should i use to get the same grey as your receiver?
Thats in very nice condition. I have an SP1 as well..but mgf in 1967. They are very unique and fun to shoot. How did you get yours? I got mine via a gun broker auction.
also, i never understood the lanyard loop on the pistol grip. why was it there? surely it wasnt really a lanyard hole, right?
Right, it was for an early sling swivel. As an example, look at teh pistol grip on the Armalite AR18/180.
Ozark Bear Arms interesting, thanks for letting me know!
Nice job. Love my retro A1. I got my upper/lower receiver, barrel from Brownells.com
Thank you,
i have a '67 colt sp-1 my dad bought long ago new at a sporting goods store. doesnt have the pronged flash hider. its like an a2, but with open bottom. totally slab-sided.
Right, that is an A1 flash hider. You can see the same on my M16A1 in this video. 1967-1968 was the transition period for the SP1 from early M16 parts, to M16A1 parts. The SP1 line though was always slabsided throughout its production run.
Ozark Bear Arms so Colt went from the three prong Type 2 Duckbill flash hider to the A1 in '67/68?
Yes, first the birdcage appeared on the XM16E1, then became standard with the M16A1, and after old stock of the 3 prong was used up; the birdcage made it onto the SP1.
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They changed to the birdcage from the three prong, because the three prong flashhiders were getting caught on vegetation in the Vietnam jungle... is that correct?
I hear colt is bring these rifles back to production?
That's what they say, and we're sure hoping they'll follow through. Thing is though, the money. I've seen numbers from $1,600 up to $2,500. We'll see.....
And now we've seen....$2,500 it is.....and no, just no comment.
yep. I wouldn't buy it. Cause for the same price you could buy an actual 1960's era COLT SP1...which does have collectors value.
Why did Colt advertise that the M16 didnt need cleaning?
I am sure because it sounded great on paper.
+Ozark Bear Arms that was more something the army touted... And it kinda flu till they changed to dirtier ball powder without telling Colt
Drive by Bayoneting 😆
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