Goku unironically can probably just punch fast enough his fist will cross the "infinite" distance and hit Gojo. Saitama is getting up there, he's like universal and goku currently is complex multiversal so uh yea goku still dog walks. Dc/Marvel high tiers stomp my glorious king sadly but he dog walks the majority of DC/Marvel especially if we ignore the characters who have stupid feats like holding the very comic page they're reading etc. Sailor Moon can unironically beat Goku I think I'm not too familiar with the lore but ik that verse is crazy af. Aizen with hogyoku can win if he has enough time to adapt but other than Goku just letting him get stronger for how ever many evolutions goku just speed blitzes, idc about his kyouka suigetsu, Goku can break the mind control because DBZ has hax resistance, hax from weaker people don't work. He probably loses to alien X and Bil, but I think certain versions of goku just dog walk bothm. Other than that, most everyone on that list getting their shit ran by my glorious king, obviously, superman is in the DC high tiers.
With saitama it was shown in the manga that garou was stronger than saitama and what happened was saitama then match and blew past his power level. We have seen goku draw out fights for a better one and so if given enough time saitama could over power him and we've seen the power his lungs can do by destroying jupiter.
Its not something that happens nowadays though. That stuff was like 10 or 20 years ago, nowadays theres ln characters who manipulate plot and comic character who has 1 scan where they are a god. So db fans dont do that often now tho@miyamotomusashi6450
@@miyamotomusashi6450 Nah fans of DB dont have to do that its more like "bet he can even beat Goku" like they always try to compare with Goku when some character is broken in a other anime, everytime 😂
That’s what happens when a comic franchise runs for decades. Power creep sets in because once a certain feat is reached, another must be more impressive to keep the stakes high.
It’s annoying though, I’m not sure Superman makes Saitama sweat, but he can beat Goku?? Supes already got bodied by Darkseid and Goku would dogwalk Darkseid to me at least
comic books have more op characters, toon force is basically reality manipulation "for the sake of humor", every char that can just bypass reality manipulation can dog walks toon force chars
@eriksaas19 popeye, one time, got erased from existence by god, and then he came back by eating a can of spinach. Being a toon especially a toon of looney tunes and popeye level means not only reality manipulation, but 4th wall awareness, being able to go beyond the 4th, immunity to all damage, and being able to manipulate the story board. It doesn't matter how good you can by pass it.
@@lilmikey1275 When did he do this? And no, there are very few characters with such absurd levels in cartoons, as far as I know only Popeye himself has that level, not even bugs bunny or uncle grandpa are that absurd, it always depends on the episode, since in certain episodes bugs is defeated in a completely idiotic way, like falling into a hole, and things like breaking the fourth wall come along with toon force, like I said, it's a *type* of reality manipulation, of a very high level and that comes with "additions"? so to speak, but very few have script and plot manipulation, and yet, that was never something absolute lol, there are VARIOUS characters that go far beyond the level of "simply" having script and plot manipulation, WAY beyond, one of the most absurd examples is TOAA or Scarlet King, for example, they can simply decide that spinach doesn't give him powers or makes him invincible, or that he never even exists, simply by rubbing the eraser on him.
The thing about Goku is that we realize that he’s not even the strongest member of his race, let alone series, but if you come to us and say he loses to someone like Naruto or Luffy, you’re basically throwing out the “my dad can beat your dad” insult and we will NOT stand for it.
The problem is characters like Naruto or Luffy simply lack any feats to put them past even Z let alone anything in Super yet their fanbases always act like they’re some god tiers.
Nah bro, it's you Goku fans with the "my dad can beat your dad" mentality, that's why the meme is "but can he beat Goku" and not "but can he beat Naruto?"
What kills me is that Z / GT had him around mid-tier, and things were just about settling down as people branched out from series they watched in the 90s Then Super dropped and the dialogue became INSUFFERABLE.
As good as BOG was it was ground zero for all of this, then Super was opened with it’s own massive can of worms and I doubt it’s ever gonna get back to settling down like it used to unfortunately.
On the topic of Light Yagami, the Death Note specifically states the HUMAN whose name is written in the Note shall die. Meaning any nonhuman characters are perfectly fine. In fact, the Death Note won’t work on any human being under 780 days or over 124 years old.
I mean following that logic, Itachi could just put him in an infinite genjutsu( or any genjutsu I guess? Cuz Goku doesnt have chakra?) and trap the guys mind forever. The semantics of these arguments are tiring when everyone is not caring about the rules of the opposing universe lol
@@Spideer-t9i Is an illusion a physical barrier? Can you fight hallucinations? Like I said everyone who brings up this argument seems to forget about the rules of the opponent. Death noted stated that it only works on humans, but there is no restriction on genjutsu if I remember right. I didnt say Itachi was stronger, I was just providing an example of how he COULD do SOMETHING to Goku, that Goku would have no real defense if caught.
I love how Wes just gave up and automatically admitted defeat for Marvel and DC😂. Don't blame em...its hard to scale verses where EVERY character has been a LITERAL GOD at one point😭💀
Literally every major Avengers and Justice League member has a god version. Iron Man? Iron God Thor? Rune King Hulk? TOBA Captain America? Cosmic Cube Black Widow? Worthy Spider-Man? Cosmic Comic Batman? Darkest Knight Superman? Cosmic Armor Wonder Woman? Anti-Crisis Flash? God of Death Green Lantern? Spectre Martian Manhunter? Fernus
I heard, some points of comics, even Squirrel girl defeated thanos. Batman defeating darksied and become a god of that universe. Man Comic scaling is pure nonsense
Uncle Grandpa, Popeye and Jesus himself are the only ones, we, as Dragon Ball fans, can accept that they can beat Goku. Oh, and El Chapurin Colorado. It's a Latino thing, don't ask lol.
It's always a bit interesting though, because DBZ characters like are just RAW power, but other shows and such characters tend to have more varied types of abilities rather than simply screaming louder and harder to punch harder and shooting a stronger ki blast.
Ion care what nobody says Goku and vegeta not beating professor x all he gotta do is think faster than they decide whether to fight him and they’ll either end up fighting each other or kissing
Wouldn't SpongeBob be a sigh he can beat Goku because he has Zeno-level power now? There's an episode in which he pulled a string that erased his universe.
1:54 Tbh the way it seems Saitama's powers work and factoring in Goku's personality....he'll eventually beat Goku😂 Goku is known for allowing his opponent to power up and go full force. Legitimately speaking...Goku would probably HELP Saitama grow in strenght just for the sake of a good fight😭🤣
it like what i seen back in the days 2016 i read one comment in particular that " goku is the perfect benchmark for characters that can reasonably justify the absurdity of it strength and states above it and you will run into major loopholes and a lot of inconsistency " and it so true and i stand by that
IIRC, that was from the 'many doors' episode, and it was Eddy who did it. Said episode is where all three of the eds showed the capability to just ignore the basic laws of reality. Also Rolf reveals himself to apparently be an SCP that is aware of the bounds of reality.
For people thinking Gojo is strong, there's literally a Sternritter with the same Infinity power that had 5 mins of screentime before getting packed up by Senjumaru in Bleach😂
@@inferno-2010It doesn't even matter if Luffy is planetary or star level like some people wank him to, Goku's attacks are at the very least universal which Luffy or anyone in One Piece cannot handle.
Only reason I don’t think he’d win is because of luffy’s lack of intelligence with his power that’s it anyone with gear 5 would just turn the kamahamaha into rubber
@@TheprophetDJGear 5 is just a low level toon force, it's definitely not turning the Kamehameha into rubber. Goku can fire off universal level attacks, and low level toon force isn't gonna affect anything. Besides, Luffy isn't even planetary, he wouldn't even have time to think about turning to Gear 5 let alone think and have time to turn Goku's attack to rubber even if he could.
If we’re having Goku fighting everyone then I’m curious to see how’d do against Asura, that man lives for the smoke and remember that he also ran the ones with the Budda too.
i would say maybe because he is definitely multiversal plus and scale out of anger same as og saiynes transformation and is the same as kratos or doomslayer it depends on how you scale them and the situations they could be in (they have a good chance if he didn't lock in )
At the same time then This also means Ryu and Akuma would Run Goku as both of them held back and even did significant damage to Asura comparable to even gods
They're actually very close in terms of scaling, Asura can destroy Chakravarten's realm which was stated to be infinite in size and he has insane power boosts that can always give him the edge over his opponent
Invincible doesn’t have that many crazy feats compared to other comics. Supreme is more impressive. Metroman just did a feat Flash does on a normal tuesday.
While yes, Flash can pull that off, Metro Man did it with a superman powerset, not a specialized one like Flash's. That turns metro man from an omni-man or maybe homelander level character, into a BIG fat questionmark. Especially with how CASUALLY he did it.
That's what I'm thinking too. If Metroman has Supermans type of kit (which it appears he is supposed to), and seeing him able to do Flash levels of speed casually, it would make sense for him to also do Superman level feats of strength, durability, etc casually as well. Either way Metroman is no joke, he could give many other characters on this list a run for their money lmao
Look, I love DBZ as much as the next guy. I was in the generation of kids who grew up watching it on Toonami back on the day. Akira Toriyama’s death was a shock to all of us, I read that news and I was absolutely heartbroken by it. He has accomplished so much and inspired so many people with this franchise. However, despite all of that, I think we can agree that Dragon Ball’s inconsistent power scaling nonsense is the sole reason why every DBZ fan will live and die by the sword into believing that Goku can win a fight against any character in fiction.
The only thing inconsistent about Dragon ball’s power scaling is when Goku fought against Krillin, 18, and 17. Other than that, Goku can in fact beat particular characters with the feats he has achieved. No need to over complicate his power and feats because a particular moment in the series.
My brother I put it this way, unless it's comics,Isekai, lvl threats any after DBZ from the level of characters any from Naruto,bleach,One piece,Gen after that....cannot beat Goku otherwise yes Goku can be beaten
The only thing inconsistent is that dogwater blue form making goku ''controls'' his strengh make possible hideus fights like krillin or those random NPC's in the tournament of power. We could discuss maybe magic could work but then the Moro ark and Granola change that and now they know how to fight against that too.
@@emylikula9159 I just didn't like how it was Blue vs Krillin. The controlling of strength is understandable, for example while your actual power level is at 1000 you can put it down to 10 so you conserve ki and you don't break everything on accident.
10:12 THANK YOU I hate power scaling with comic characters there is always some universe or timeline that a character is just stupid strong for no reason
I was just thinking "I'm pretty sure there's some random off comic where someone like blackwidow got ahold of some "cosmic" power even for just a second and scales to the most powerful versions of Thor or something "😂 and you'll have some idiot yelling "black widow is more powerful than superman" or she can beat goku or vegeta and I'm like dawg we all know if u look through over 80 comics with black widow in them she's not that strong at all besides that one off comic do don't even spatter that bs she isn't beating anyone with powers without plot armor
Even batman's plot armor to superman isn't "preptime" his plot armor too superman is that superman literally LETS him prep LETS him use kryptonight LETS him talk superman out of doing something and holds back on batman every chance he can while batman is putting in full effort using every dirty trick possible superman literally LETS him win because no prep in the universe is stopping a blood lusted man out to kill u that can travel to 20 galaxies and tap batman 1 trillion times before batman even send the commands from his brain to blink lol think about that superman is fast enough at top speed to travel to 20 galaxies fly back to earth and tap batman 1 trillion times before batman sends the SIGNALS to his brain to command his eyes to blink. How can batman counter that speed he just .... can't he simply can't inless superman doesn't use it on him even batman himself said "If superman actually wanted me dead there's nothing that I could do to stop him"
Yeah, some of these characters might be able to rewrite universes or erase their realities on a whim, but they can never destroy the impact of Gokus legacy in our hearts. RIP Akira Toriyama
The Bugs Bunny one could be great. *Bugs gets hakai'd* *DBZ dramatic pause* *Bugs Bunny voice* "Boy, I'd sure hate to be that guy." *Camera pans to Bugs standing behind everyone eating a carrot*
Looney tunes is BS. There is no winning against Bugs or Daffy, unless you happen to be one of the two. They are reality warping trolls whose rules change based on what amuses them. Same can be said of Tom and Jerry, Wil.E.Coyote, etc. You cannot 'beat' them,, you just survive until they get bored of messing with you.
Goku smiles *pans to flashback of Beerus hakai'ing Zamasu and explaining how it destroys him in every timeline *Bugs starts to disappear before he says I think the Marvel guys own the rights to this and dies.
@@PayArcanum You are assuming that Hakai manages to work on eldritch beings from other realities. That's a factor you ALWAYS have to keep in mind when talking 'x vs y' in fiction. Whose universe are they fighting in, and is it reasonable to expect a power to function the same way in a different universe. Especially 'divine' ones like hakai.
If I may throw shade for a second, one obnoxious thing about DBZ power scalers is that they never consider hax. They only focus on raw power. Like who can make the bigger explosion = the winner. But as far as I know DBZ characters don't have much resistance against spiritual, mental, or psionic attacks. Yeah Buu can scream his way out of a time chamber but that doesn't mean he can resist having his soul stolen. At least Wes gets it. "Goku hasn't been written against hax characters except for Hit." No other DBZ fan gets that.
Yeah, not much hax, he went up against the Devil might beam thing when he was younger, where if the person has even the smallest bit of evil in their heart they die but really it.
@@superthon7762I don’t even listen to Drake like that anymore ever since he started making songs with Sexy Redd and I’m on Kendrick side when it comes to the beef because he was COOKING him Not Like Us and Meet The Grahams. Bro had so much evidence on him it’s not even funny. I was just making a joke with my comment 😂
Goku and co, in fact, had an illusion and mind control breaking feats since their early days. And even if we highball genjutsu to the very extremes, ultra instinct doesn't even need mind to whoop ass
Both Saitama and Goku grow increasing in accordance to who they are fighting and both have a tendency to let their opponents get stronger to make the fight more interesting. It could be a stale mate, or they just continuous increase eachother’s power. But Saitama has a faster growth rate
Bro it would be better with Broly. Broly started from losing to base Goku and Vegeta to forcing them to use Gogeta blue. They would have the goat fight ever
But for reals here, the fact every powerful character in fiction is compared to Goku tells you his impact. Pretty much everyone’s first anime was Dragon Ball Z. RIP Akira Toriyama 🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
@devilslayer they do it first have you seen even 1 say it unronically that you solos get a goddamn brain your favorite RUclips like Cory or others love goku to so stop getting mad at the fans who like the show😑
Ain't gonna lie, when he was doing his speech on the whole DC and Marvel characters I was crying, some of the funniest shit I've heard in a while. Thank u for this video Wes!
Also i just noticed Westsidelive said something about Batman that is blatantly wrong. Batman, when using prep time 90% doesn't use characters' weaknesses. BatZ uses weaknesses when he gets caught by suprise, so he pulls out a weakness of theirs he's got in his belt. But prep time normally means he builds a suit or just gear in general that bypasses the defenses of the enemy, most of those enemies don't have weaknesses.
Everyone forgets the fact that Goku has beaten up ghosts and spirits on the regular and if we include movie Goku, a lot of these characters can't clear kid Goku because in the movies he is bare minimum star level
Goku gets low diff-ed by most of the Golden Cloths from Saint Seiya. Took him getting brought back and powerscaled AF in Super to read the high-ish end of the Silver Cloths.
A character weaker than ichigo shakes three universes while holding back her power to not cause collateral damage. Wes: ichigo is not universal. I’m obviously playing. Even in the actual story they confirm that they can’t destroy universes without having to target the balance of the soul cycle, because none of them is that strong, but I’ve seen the break down for the senjumaru feat and it is galaxy level, which would put bleach god tiers up there with the buu saga.
@@matthewgilroy8701 in pure power I would MAYBE put him at vegito-buuhan levels, but in a fight it’s a different story, because the speed difference is MASSIVE.
@@matthewgilroy8701 Ichigo is not stronger than Z Goku (dumb distinction, Super takes place prior to Z's conclusion anyway) He has no feats that's even on par with Piccolo destroying the moon
I'm a bleach fan, I can see why Wes would see the bleach scaling feel weird. Literally Bleach scaling is like Final Fantasy scaling, Character interchange that fact use basic magic and then a cutscene show world shaking because the characters ora, very confusing now a days.
In bleach the soul reapers are basically angels and Ichigo is a potential replacement for god. I get that in DBZ the explosions just get bigger so it's super easy to follow but the TYBW pretty clearly shows how powerful soul reapers have enough aura alone to rattle the world around them. The abilities are just more detailed so if you don't watch the show of course he's not gonna get it. I find the concept of spiritual pressure at the very least to be simple and easy to understand.
How would goku even know how to do this anyway? He doesnt fully remember what happened with Vegito seemingly, he never saw what Gotenks did, and frankly just trying to punch through it wouldn't do anything If hes not actively trying to tear open literal space seemingly out of frustration, which seems hella out of character because he hasn't done this just because hes annoyed, then he couldn't do it because he wouldn't know how
They actually say Yusuke is planetary in the anime and manga along with other S Rank demons and that was when he was the weakest S Rank demon. Also Asta is also planetary, they mention several planet busters that he’s beaten.
@@jirenthegray5776 Goku has never blown up a planet, neither has Gohan, Cell, Trunks and many other powerful characters, are they not planet busters by your logic?
Look i appreciate the guts glazing, My favorite character, god bless, But it felt really unfair looking at one piece verse being under guts😅 Also, having never seen yu yu hakusho and only seeing the main character shoot with his fingers, you can imagine my surprise hearing "country level" like its not that big of a deal
I took a glance at my smart watch because of a notification and I only saw the title of a video. I don't need to see the full notification to know that it's a WesSideLive video 😅
The whole superman, dc & marvel thing. It really comes down Which version were going with, And Death battle did said That goku can beat most versions of superman, Just not the one from the main canon
First things first, Marvel characters are the same being since they debuted. Also, DC has made all of the past versions of their character canon, so that argument is pointless.
Doctor Doom would probably think fighting Goku would be a waste of time and meaningless, but after some convincing he’d wipe the floor with him. And obviously say some fire ass quote after beating him.
Imma just say it. Plenty of people in comics and all can beat Goku. I love him, but he’s not invincible lol. Mfs just don’t wanna have the discussions and be wrong when somebody get to the facts of why he’d lose to certain people. Which is why I steer clear of these conversations of anybody who says “Nobody beating Goku”. Y’all don’t realize how wrong you are. 😂😂
Saitama isn’t really a gag character. If he truly were one, he’d stick to the gag-the gag being his title, ‘One Punch Man.’ But we’ve seen him throw how many punches against Boros and Garou?
Saitama can end Boros in one punch, he was holding back so he can get a good fight. For the Garou fight, you can say Saitama wasn’t trying to end Garou but give him a good beating due to the promise he did for the kid. Garou did technically get defeated in one punch since the fight they had never happen
@@artart-qg2yware we forgetting goku literally got gifted ultra instinct by a damn ki blast something a being who lived thousands of years couldn’t achieve? Dude gets a hair swap every time someone is stronger than him he quite literally gets gifted op ass powers at least life of a slime doesn’t pretend it makes sense when it clearly don’t
Goku brute forcing through Hit's time skip ability really opened up the conversation for Goku beating reality warpers, and that's what I think a lot of people forget.
Thats not really reality warping And considering what Hit has actually done with his power, you can barely count it as time manipulation. In a real time situation, fighting vs hit at the same speed, its relatively short because he could easily blitz people if it was any longer than a second, and he doesn't
There’s some characters that Goku can beat in base form, and there’s some that he can’t beat even if he’s in UMI. I’m saying it because we got Bill Cipher
comic books have different universes dc and marvel both have their own respective multiverses and when you see these insanely strong versions of random characters like black widow but only the mian universe stuff is canon
There are Digimon that dog walk Goku, people don't understand how insane the Digimon mythology's scaling is. Here's three examples: Magnamon, one of the 13 Royal Knights. Magnamon wears golden armor that is quite literally made of the power of miracles. Meaning, if Magnamon wants to win, his armor will bend reality to his will and create a positive outcome that leads to him inevitably winning. Jesmon GX / Jesmon X-Antibody, the youngest and latest member of the Royal Knights. Jesmon can attack omnidirectionally, has three spirits that can attack individually or act as a shield for Jesmon. Jesmon can use a skill called "OS Generics" to temporarily rewrite the laws of reality and set his damage output to 100% of his enemy's health, killing instantly. He can also use this to create what's basically an invisible wall from a video game, ensuring nobody gets near him. Jesmon X-Antibody has access to the Ultimate War Blade Seibaken, when he pulls the sword out from his core, its ability is to straight up ELIMINATE THE ENEMY'S FIGHTING SPIRIT. It works no matter who he's up against, the fight ends as soon as the blade is drawn. And finally, Alphamon, the leader of the Royal Knights. His speed is stated to be infinite. If he misses an attack, he can redo it an infinite number of times and from nine directions at once. He has access to magic, summoning legendary monsters. And get this, Alphamon while bearing his signature weapon, Ouryuken, can straight up DELETE his enemies, banishing them to an inescapable dimension. Mind you, I only mentioned three Royal Knights. The rest of them are either equally or more busted in terms of power. Don't even get me started on the Seven Great Demon Lords.
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Can he beat Goku tho?
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I forgot about popeye, kirby, and uncle grandpa. I think Goku might get dog walked by all three..
Ohh yeah and Sonic and shadow. Goku dog walks both.. at the same time.
Goku unironically can probably just punch fast enough his fist will cross the "infinite" distance and hit Gojo. Saitama is getting up there, he's like universal and goku currently is complex multiversal so uh yea goku still dog walks. Dc/Marvel high tiers stomp my glorious king sadly but he dog walks the majority of DC/Marvel especially if we ignore the characters who have stupid feats like holding the very comic page they're reading etc.
Sailor Moon can unironically beat Goku I think I'm not too familiar with the lore but ik that verse is crazy af. Aizen with hogyoku can win if he has enough time to adapt but other than Goku just letting him get stronger for how ever many evolutions goku just speed blitzes, idc about his kyouka suigetsu, Goku can break the mind control because DBZ has hax resistance, hax from weaker people don't work. He probably loses to alien X and Bil, but I think certain versions of goku just dog walk bothm.
Other than that, most everyone on that list getting their shit ran by my glorious king, obviously, superman is in the DC high tiers.
With saitama it was shown in the manga that garou was stronger than saitama and what happened was saitama then match and blew past his power level. We have seen goku draw out fights for a better one and so if given enough time saitama could over power him and we've seen the power his lungs can do by destroying jupiter.
Don't the central cake logo @@WesSideLive
"Can he beat Goku though?"
Is always on their flashcard.
Foreal trying to gaslight, like we're the ones who bring up goku when someone seems powerful.😂
@@x0gucx do you really think this didn't come from dragonball fans constantly comparing Goku to other characters?
It didnt, it always comes from outside "my character beats goku" then they get mad when the answrr is no lol@@miyamotomusashi6450
Its not something that happens nowadays though. That stuff was like 10 or 20 years ago, nowadays theres ln characters who manipulate plot and comic character who has 1 scan where they are a god. So db fans dont do that often now tho@miyamotomusashi6450
@@miyamotomusashi6450 Nah fans of DB dont have to do that its more like "bet he can even beat Goku" like they always try to compare with Goku when some character is broken in a other anime, everytime 😂
Leaving Courage the Cowardly Dog off the list was smart move
When he start screaming king yema starts to feel the ground shake
And shaggy
goku is outer
I like how Wes has just accepted how laughably cracked comic book characters are.
They are too inconsistent to take seriously
That’s what happens when a comic franchise runs for decades. Power creep sets in because once a certain feat is reached, another must be more impressive to keep the stakes high.
It’s annoying though, I’m not sure Superman makes Saitama sweat, but he can beat Goku??
Supes already got bodied by Darkseid and Goku would dogwalk Darkseid to me at least
@@TheUnnamedAssailantNahhhhh Goku super weak to Superman. Goku cant win.
@@TheUnnamedAssailant I'm just gonna assume you're to dceu or dcau Superman and Darkseid.
Everyone: Comic book characters are so stupidly broken
Cartoon characters: Allow us to introduce ourselves
Bugs Bunny would easily beat goku
@@joeyuzwa891 bugs: what's up doc? *pulls out needle*
Goku: *panting.*
comic books have more op characters, toon force is basically reality manipulation "for the sake of humor", every char that can just bypass reality manipulation can dog walks toon force chars
@eriksaas19 popeye, one time, got erased from existence by god, and then he came back by eating a can of spinach. Being a toon especially a toon of looney tunes and popeye level means not only reality manipulation, but 4th wall awareness, being able to go beyond the 4th, immunity to all damage, and being able to manipulate the story board. It doesn't matter how good you can by pass it.
@@lilmikey1275 When did he do this? And no, there are very few characters with such absurd levels in cartoons, as far as I know only Popeye himself has that level, not even bugs bunny or uncle grandpa are that absurd, it always depends on the episode, since in certain episodes bugs is defeated in a completely idiotic way, like falling into a hole, and things like breaking the fourth wall come along with toon force, like I said, it's a *type* of reality manipulation, of a very high level and that comes with "additions"? so to speak, but very few have script and plot manipulation, and yet, that was never something absolute lol, there are VARIOUS characters that go far beyond the level of "simply" having script and plot manipulation, WAY beyond, one of the most absurd examples is TOAA or Scarlet King, for example, they can simply decide that spinach doesn't give him powers or makes him invincible, or that he never even exists, simply by rubbing the eraser on him.
The thing about Goku is that we realize that he’s not even the strongest member of his race, let alone series, but if you come to us and say he loses to someone like Naruto or Luffy, you’re basically throwing out the “my dad can beat your dad” insult and we will NOT stand for it.
In the case of characters like Naruto or Luffy, it's debatable if they could even beat Krillin
@@annamae3946 i don't think that's a debate 😭 Krillin is washing them and leaving them out to dry
The problem is characters like Naruto or Luffy simply lack any feats to put them past even Z let alone anything in Super yet their fanbases always act like they’re some god tiers.
Nah bro, it's you Goku fans with the "my dad can beat your dad" mentality, that's why the meme is "but can he beat Goku" and not "but can he beat Naruto?"
Nuhuh goku solos
What kills me is that Z / GT had him around mid-tier, and things were just about settling down as people branched out from series they watched in the 90s
Then Super dropped and the dialogue became INSUFFERABLE.
FAAAAAAACTS😭
nah gts trash imho.
As good as BOG was it was ground zero for all of this, then Super was opened with it’s own massive can of worms and I doubt it’s ever gonna get back to settling down like it used to unfortunately.
@@Mr._Anonymous342 OP's comment is about how before Super, Goku was actually a mid-tier character power-wise, not whether or not GT was good.
@@Mr._Anonymous342GT was goated
On the topic of Light Yagami, the Death Note specifically states the HUMAN whose name is written in the Note shall die. Meaning any nonhuman characters are perfectly fine. In fact, the Death Note won’t work on any human being under 780 days or over 124 years old.
Wait, i never even thought about that but you can actually kill kids with the Death note💀
That’s fucking insane
You know whats even funnier, lets say the DN does work on Goku, it wouldn’t even matter cause his real name is not even Goku its Kakarot
I mean following that logic, Itachi could just put him in an infinite genjutsu( or any genjutsu I guess? Cuz Goku doesnt have chakra?) and trap the guys mind forever. The semantics of these arguments are tiring when everyone is not caring about the rules of the opposing universe lol
@Action-Owls-Coop he's broken out of time with his power against a time assassin you think he wouldn't overpower itachi makes no sense🤦
@@Spideer-t9i Is an illusion a physical barrier? Can you fight hallucinations? Like I said everyone who brings up this argument seems to forget about the rules of the opponent. Death noted stated that it only works on humans, but there is no restriction on genjutsu if I remember right. I didnt say Itachi was stronger, I was just providing an example of how he COULD do SOMETHING to Goku, that Goku would have no real defense if caught.
I love how Wes just gave up and automatically admitted defeat for Marvel and DC😂. Don't blame em...its hard to scale verses where EVERY character has been a LITERAL GOD at one point😭💀
Literally every major Avengers and Justice League member has a god version.
Iron Man? Iron God
Thor? Rune King
Hulk? TOBA
Captain America? Cosmic Cube
Black Widow? Worthy
Spider-Man? Cosmic Comic
Batman? Darkest Knight
Superman? Cosmic Armor
Wonder Woman? Anti-Crisis
Flash? God of Death
Green Lantern? Spectre
Martian Manhunter? Fernus
I heard, some points of comics, even Squirrel girl defeated thanos. Batman defeating darksied and become a god of that universe.
Man Comic scaling is pure nonsense
Fax them comics got a god version of every character 😂 movie versions is another story tho
Uncle Grandpa completely dog walks Goku.
Facts!
Uncle Grandpa, Popeye and Jesus himself are the only ones, we, as Dragon Ball fans, can accept that they can beat Goku.
Oh, and El Chapurin Colorado.
It's a Latino thing, don't ask lol.
brother this is undeniable fax
What about pizza Steve
@@cassiushellsin6243Don’t forget Arale~chan in that
The “Goku and Vegeta vs Every marvel comic character” meme got SO much controversy
It's always a bit interesting though, because DBZ characters like are just RAW power, but other shows and such characters tend to have more varied types of abilities rather than simply screaming louder and harder to punch harder and shooting a stronger ki blast.
@@TheJadeFisteven then Marvel and DC has enough characters to match them physically lol
@@parry3439 like Superman, Doomsday, Hulk, Thor, Blue Marvel, Sentry, Hercules, Shazam, Galactus, the list goes on really
Ion care what nobody says Goku and vegeta not beating professor x all he gotta do is think faster than they decide whether to fight him and they’ll either end up fighting each other or kissing
I'm proud of you Wes, you lost a lot of weight, keep going strong homie 💪🏽
Wouldn't SpongeBob be a sigh he can beat Goku because he has Zeno-level power now? There's an episode in which he pulled a string that erased his universe.
SpongeBob is acc so broken its funny
Spongebob is an unoffickal looney toons character. Ofc he wins😂
He always come back in every episode
Since when Xeno can write the plot lines of his verse ? Xeno level is a huge understatement when mfer is basically a Toribot
@@ricardomilos3872 true true. Bro hasn't received that level
1:54 Tbh the way it seems Saitama's powers work and factoring in Goku's personality....he'll eventually beat Goku😂
Goku is known for allowing his opponent to power up and go full force. Legitimately speaking...Goku would probably HELP Saitama grow in strenght just for the sake of a good fight😭🤣
this is honestly the best argument i've seen. and honestly i agree.
@@WesSideLiveSo Saitama with prep time beats Goku?
@@acow1385 Not really "prep time" but more the longer he fights he can grow and catch EVENTUALLY. The only problem is how strong base goku is.
@@YardonTCF Well seeing as he grows exponentially, Saitama would catch up and overpower him in a relatively short amount of time.
The gap in power is too large between Saitama and Goku
ichigo fighting goku would lead to finding out he is actually 1/8 saiyan from his aunt on his moms side
and then hed still lose
No it wouldn't. Ichigo being a mix of several races had always been foreshadowed in some way shape or form.
Any villain (or hero) able to craft a deadly virus can beat Goku 😂
That's Batman's prep-time. He created the heart virus.
it looks like Ben doesn't even need Alien X then. just go gutrot and release a smelly ass gas lol
@@parry3439true and he has like 1 million other aliens I’m sure one of them probably resembles a needle 😭
just make a heart virus😂
the deadly virus was from space btw so unless they’re aliens it aint happening
"how can goku get past infinity?"
by beating gojo's ass
Wes didn't even bother putting Popeye on that list cuz he know Goku would last 2 seconds, even without spinach.
🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao
goku is outer
it like what i seen back in the days 2016 i read one comment in particular that
" goku is the perfect benchmark for characters that can reasonably justify the absurdity of it strength and states above it and you will run into major loopholes and a lot of inconsistency " and it so true and i stand by that
Was it Ed that literally grabbed the sun and ate a chunk of it causing it to be night? Cartoon characters are crazy
IIRC, that was from the 'many doors' episode, and it was Eddy who did it. Said episode is where all three of the eds showed the capability to just ignore the basic laws of reality. Also Rolf reveals himself to apparently be an SCP that is aware of the bounds of reality.
@@jtnachos16😂
"If you can't beat 'em, eat 'em."
For people thinking Gojo is strong, there's literally a Sternritter with the same Infinity power that had 5 mins of screentime before getting packed up by Senjumaru in Bleach😂
Wind?
So?
Goku negs that ass tier verse with powers beyond infinity
@@Stasy809 you're the problem
@@MorbidFayde yes
@@MorbidFaydehe’s not wrong though.
Stankmeaner canonically possesed, Frieza turned him black and he one tapped Goku and Vegeta.
I love Luffy but being goofy isn't saving him from a ultra instinct Kamehameha.
Depends on how durable he is in gear 5. If he’s durable enough he can deflect it or even redirect it
@@inferno-2010It doesn't even matter if Luffy is planetary or star level like some people wank him to, Goku's attacks are at the very least universal which Luffy or anyone in One Piece cannot handle.
Luffy at this moment is small country level. He aint even planet level. @@js_hd
Only reason I don’t think he’d win is because of luffy’s lack of intelligence with his power that’s it anyone with gear 5 would just turn the kamahamaha into rubber
@@TheprophetDJGear 5 is just a low level toon force, it's definitely not turning the Kamehameha into rubber. Goku can fire off universal level attacks, and low level toon force isn't gonna affect anything.
Besides, Luffy isn't even planetary, he wouldn't even have time to think about turning to Gear 5 let alone think and have time to turn Goku's attack to rubber even if he could.
Inspector Gadget already won. The Undertaker would also win.
Undertaker at Wrestlemania without Vince is going undefeated
duh they're omega level threats.
Go go gadget murder Goku!
The irony of Chi Chi not being in here 😆😅
If we’re having Goku fighting everyone then I’m curious to see how’d do against Asura, that man lives for the smoke and remember that he also ran the ones with the Budda too.
i would say maybe because he is definitely multiversal plus and scale out of anger same as og saiynes transformation and is the same as kratos or doomslayer it depends on how you scale them and the situations they could be in (they have a good chance if he didn't lock in )
At the same time then This also means Ryu and Akuma would Run Goku as both of them held back and even did significant damage to Asura comparable to even gods
I love Goku but Asura wrecks Goku. Asura literally defeated his creator. Goku can't even beat Beerus 😂
@@reaganmemes6510That crossover isn't canon btw
They're actually very close in terms of scaling, Asura can destroy Chakravarten's realm which was stated to be infinite in size and he has insane power boosts that can always give him the edge over his opponent
Invincible doesn’t have that many crazy feats compared to other comics. Supreme is more impressive.
Metroman just did a feat Flash does on a normal tuesday.
While yes, Flash can pull that off, Metro Man did it with a superman powerset, not a specialized one like Flash's. That turns metro man from an omni-man or maybe homelander level character, into a BIG fat questionmark. Especially with how CASUALLY he did it.
That's what I'm thinking too. If Metroman has Supermans type of kit (which it appears he is supposed to), and seeing him able to do Flash levels of speed casually, it would make sense for him to also do Superman level feats of strength, durability, etc casually as well. Either way Metroman is no joke, he could give many other characters on this list a run for their money lmao
@@KN1GHT501Metro Man’s attack potency isn’t that high though.
@@KN1GHT501 except Superman would hogwash Metro-man on a Tuesday.
@@KN1GHT501 Superman would hogwash Metro man like it’s Tuesday lol.
Look, I love DBZ as much as the next guy. I was in the generation of kids who grew up watching it on Toonami back on the day. Akira Toriyama’s death was a shock to all of us, I read that news and I was absolutely heartbroken by it. He has accomplished so much and inspired so many people with this franchise. However, despite all of that, I think we can agree that Dragon Ball’s inconsistent power scaling nonsense is the sole reason why every DBZ fan will live and die by the sword into believing that Goku can win a fight against any character in fiction.
The only thing inconsistent about Dragon ball’s power scaling is when Goku fought against Krillin, 18, and 17. Other than that, Goku can in fact beat particular characters with the feats he has achieved. No need to over complicate his power and feats because a particular moment in the series.
My brother I put it this way, unless it's comics,Isekai, lvl threats any after DBZ from the level of characters any from Naruto,bleach,One piece,Gen after that....cannot beat Goku otherwise yes Goku can be beaten
Such is the fate of powerscalers
The only thing inconsistent is that dogwater blue form making goku ''controls'' his strengh make possible hideus fights like krillin or those random NPC's in the tournament of power. We could discuss maybe magic could work but then the Moro ark and Granola change that and now they know how to fight against that too.
@@emylikula9159 I just didn't like how it was Blue vs Krillin. The controlling of strength is understandable, for example while your actual power level is at 1000 you can put it down to 10 so you conserve ki and you don't break everything on accident.
10:12 THANK YOU I hate power scaling with comic characters there is always some universe or timeline that a character is just stupid strong for no reason
I was just thinking "I'm pretty sure there's some random off comic where someone like blackwidow got ahold of some "cosmic" power even for just a second and scales to the most powerful versions of Thor or something "😂 and you'll have some idiot yelling "black widow is more powerful than superman" or she can beat goku or vegeta and I'm like dawg we all know if u look through over 80 comics with black widow in them she's not that strong at all besides that one off comic do don't even spatter that bs she isn't beating anyone with powers without plot armor
Even batman's plot armor to superman isn't "preptime" his plot armor too superman is that superman literally LETS him prep LETS him use kryptonight LETS him talk superman out of doing something and holds back on batman every chance he can while batman is putting in full effort using every dirty trick possible superman literally LETS him win because no prep in the universe is stopping a blood lusted man out to kill u that can travel to 20 galaxies and tap batman 1 trillion times before batman even send the commands from his brain to blink lol think about that superman is fast enough at top speed to travel to 20 galaxies fly back to earth and tap batman 1 trillion times before batman sends the SIGNALS to his brain to command his eyes to blink. How can batman counter that speed he just .... can't he simply can't inless superman doesn't use it on him even batman himself said "If superman actually wanted me dead there's nothing that I could do to stop him"
The duo of comparisons:
"But can they beat Goku?"
"But can it run Crisis?"
Time Crisis was the goat
"Will it blend? That is the question."
Yeah, some of these characters might be able to rewrite universes or erase their realities on a whim, but they can never destroy the impact of Gokus legacy in our hearts. RIP Akira Toriyama
10:18 somebody PLEASE send Wes the clip of Catwoman knocking out three Flashes!
..... What
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED???
HUH????
I didnt know they nerfed him that badly
Bugs Bunny said in Space Jam: A New Legacy that he's a cartoon character he can never die.
He def beating Goku
Goku ain't beating Hulk Hogan in his prime. "That Saiyan's doing the job, Brother!"
The Bugs Bunny one could be great.
*Bugs gets hakai'd*
*DBZ dramatic pause*
*Bugs Bunny voice* "Boy, I'd sure hate to be that guy."
*Camera pans to Bugs standing behind everyone eating a carrot*
Looney tunes is BS. There is no winning against Bugs or Daffy, unless you happen to be one of the two. They are reality warping trolls whose rules change based on what amuses them. Same can be said of Tom and Jerry, Wil.E.Coyote, etc.
You cannot 'beat' them,, you just survive until they get bored of messing with you.
Goku smiles
*pans to flashback of Beerus hakai'ing Zamasu and explaining how it destroys him in every timeline
*Bugs starts to disappear before he says I think the Marvel guys own the rights to this and dies.
@@PayArcanum You are assuming that Hakai manages to work on eldritch beings from other realities. That's a factor you ALWAYS have to keep in mind when talking 'x vs y' in fiction. Whose universe are they fighting in, and is it reasonable to expect a power to function the same way in a different universe. Especially 'divine' ones like hakai.
@@PayArcanumbug's casually destroys all of DB
Except hakai works on cartoons he can't come back from that lol
If I may throw shade for a second, one obnoxious thing about DBZ power scalers is that they never consider hax. They only focus on raw power. Like who can make the bigger explosion = the winner. But as far as I know DBZ characters don't have much resistance against spiritual, mental, or psionic attacks. Yeah Buu can scream his way out of a time chamber but that doesn't mean he can resist having his soul stolen.
At least Wes gets it. "Goku hasn't been written against hax characters except for Hit." No other DBZ fan gets that.
Yeah, not much hax, he went up against the Devil might beam thing when he was younger, where if the person has even the smallest bit of evil in their heart they die but really it.
I hate when dbz fans disregard hax as if it's not a major factor in these fights
Moro could steal souls and Buu was immune to it. So you are just ignorant. Well done.
@jirenthegray5776 buu doesn't have a soul lmao when you don't have a soul you immune to someone who eats souls it's not rocket science
@@SosukeTYBW If Buu doesn't have a soul then how was he reincarnated? RUclips comments really be killing brain cells.
This is why I am still subscribed. Sometimes, these things need to be done. People talk too much
And all of them lose to Popeye the Sailor Man.
Not only did he punch the universe back into existence but he has canonically defeated Zeus.
Exactly put a rock in Ed's shoe, goku suffering getting slammed by Super Broly before he super saiyan was awakened lmfao
The funny thing about Ichigo is he's stronger than squad 0 members by the end and they are confirmed to be multiversal
Not having Bobobo is criminal😢
Wes couldnt add Vergil's plastic chair, the tier list cannot process that being
Wes, you've been putting out fire on your channel lately. You're the best
Wes About to start WW3
Goku really the Drake of this anime shi. Also, that Dragon Ball Z shirt is faded out to death Wes🤣🤣
wait he a pedo
@@superthon7762I don’t even listen to Drake like that anymore ever since he started making songs with Sexy Redd and I’m on Kendrick side when it comes to the beef because he was COOKING him Not Like Us and Meet The Grahams. Bro had so much evidence on him it’s not even funny. I was just making a joke with my comment 😂
Goku doesn't touch kids tho
@@Drimil3yeah he don’t got a bbl either
Well Drake did get beat badly twice in beefs lol
Imagine batman with dragon balls 💀
Ed literally ate an entire slide, Goku stains no chance. 😂
Wes is the most Goku fan boy ever 😂😂😂
Truck kun solos verse
Goku and co, in fact, had an illusion and mind control breaking feats since their early days. And even if we highball genjutsu to the very extremes, ultra instinct doesn't even need mind to whoop ass
I got that same DBZ shirt and it’s fading the same way 😅
Lmaooo
I love these versions of video
Both Saitama and Goku grow increasing in accordance to who they are fighting and both have a tendency to let their opponents get stronger to make the fight more interesting.
It could be a stale mate, or they just continuous increase eachother’s power. But Saitama has a faster growth rate
I was just thinking this. I know Goku wins if he goes all out from the get go but it would be funny if they just fought for infinity. 😂
The problem is that base goku is wayyyyy stronger. Many times stronger. Saitama would not be able to adapt. Kinda like mahoraga
Yeah, Saitama's growth more exponential while Goku's is more adaptive, Saitama grows and Goku grows in response. It's fun to think about.
Bro it would be better with Broly. Broly started from losing to base Goku and Vegeta to forcing them to use Gogeta blue. They would have the goat fight ever
But for reals here, the fact every powerful character in fiction is compared to Goku tells you his impact. Pretty much everyone’s first anime was Dragon Ball Z.
RIP Akira Toriyama
🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
That’s just cringe dbz fanboys have to compare everything to goku
@devilslayer they do it first have you seen even 1 say it unronically that you solos get a goddamn brain your favorite RUclips like Cory or others love goku to so stop getting mad at the fans who like the show😑
@@Spideer-t9i "its just a joke" until goku lose to cancer
Ain't gonna lie, when he was doing his speech on the whole DC and Marvel characters I was crying, some of the funniest shit I've heard in a while. Thank u for this video Wes!
This was the most ever list I have ever seen be listed.
Leaving Number One from KND out of this list was a very wise move.
Also i just noticed Westsidelive said something about Batman that is blatantly wrong. Batman, when using prep time 90% doesn't use characters' weaknesses. BatZ uses weaknesses when he gets caught by suprise, so he pulls out a weakness of theirs he's got in his belt. But prep time normally means he builds a suit or just gear in general that bypasses the defenses of the enemy, most of those enemies don't have weaknesses.
Everyone forgets the fact that Goku has beaten up ghosts and spirits on the regular and if we include movie Goku, a lot of these characters can't clear kid Goku because in the movies he is bare minimum star level
Goku gets low diff-ed by most of the Golden Cloths from Saint Seiya.
Took him getting brought back and powerscaled AF in Super to read the high-ish end of the Silver Cloths.
You know we added Homelander just to make fun of him 😂
As a YuYuHakusho fan, Genkai states that Yusuke could very well blow up the planet if he wanted to. That's where that whole think comes from
Im glad you fixed that Guts one....hed get 1 hit punched by kid goku
Thank you for putting ED he is the greatest and most wholesome character
A character weaker than ichigo shakes three universes while holding back her power to not cause collateral damage.
Wes: ichigo is not universal.
I’m obviously playing. Even in the actual story they confirm that they can’t destroy universes without having to target the balance of the soul cycle, because none of them is that strong, but I’ve seen the break down for the senjumaru feat and it is galaxy level, which would put bleach god tiers up there with the buu saga.
Ichigo is stronger than Z Goku. Super Goku is obviously another story
Is he straight up stronger than z or is it the hacks giving him edge@matthewgilroy8701
@@matthewgilroy8701 in pure power I would MAYBE put him at vegito-buuhan levels, but in a fight it’s a different story, because the speed difference is MASSIVE.
@@matthewgilroy8701 Ichigo is not stronger than Z Goku (dumb distinction, Super takes place prior to Z's conclusion anyway) He has no feats that's even on par with Piccolo destroying the moon
@@jirenthegray5776This is cap . The soul society is a pocket dimension that Ichigo could destroy.
Simon not being here is criminal
I'm a bleach fan, I can see why Wes would see the bleach scaling feel weird. Literally Bleach scaling is like Final Fantasy scaling, Character interchange that fact use basic magic and then a cutscene show world shaking because the characters ora, very confusing now a days.
Fr, and why tf can FF characters who ain't never fly a day in their life suddenly fly and hover in crossovers and subsequent media and stuff?
@@chrisrockett5897you can say the same about dbz doing things they never did before
@@devilslayer3548 Honestly yeah.
In bleach the soul reapers are basically angels and Ichigo is a potential replacement for god. I get that in DBZ the explosions just get bigger so it's super easy to follow but the TYBW pretty clearly shows how powerful soul reapers have enough aura alone to rattle the world around them. The abilities are just more detailed so if you don't watch the show of course he's not gonna get it. I find the concept of spiritual pressure at the very least to be simple and easy to understand.
@@saffsunday9030I'm saying this right now, but I want a Bleach fan explain the lore to a BlazBlue fan and vise versa.
Wes, you forgot the cabbage seller in ATLA.
If Gotenks and Buu can create a rift in space then Goku can definitely get past infinity
Lots of characters can. Kenpachi, for example, literally cut through the space dimension that Gremmy trapped him in
How would goku even know how to do this anyway? He doesnt fully remember what happened with Vegito seemingly, he never saw what Gotenks did, and frankly just trying to punch through it wouldn't do anything
If hes not actively trying to tear open literal space seemingly out of frustration, which seems hella out of character because he hasn't done this just because hes annoyed, then he couldn't do it because he wouldn't know how
@@arkkon2740Goku can just brute force it.
@arkkon2740 idk? Maybe BECAUSE HE CAN bro your out here absolutely hating its not even a hard thing to do ain't that obvious its not a technique🤦
Meanwhile, Roger from American Dad can fake his death, run super fast, and have a lot of other powers in his collection.
They actually say Yusuke is planetary in the anime and manga along with other S Rank demons and that was when he was the weakest S Rank demon. Also Asta is also planetary, they mention several planet busters that he’s beaten.
Statements mean nothing without supporting feats, so neither is planetary
@@jirenthegray5776 Goku has never blown up a planet, neither has Gohan, Cell, Trunks and many other powerful characters, are they not planet busters by your logic?
@@seanwuzhere12 Didn't Goku destroy a planet by clashing fists with Beerus in dbs?
@@phantomrogue7894 in the anime I guess but not the movie or manga. Still don’t explain the others tho.
Leaving Chowder off the list was a wise move.
Look i appreciate the guts glazing,
My favorite character, god bless,
But it felt really unfair looking at one piece verse being under guts😅
Also, having never seen yu yu hakusho and only seeing the main character shoot with his fingers, you can imagine my surprise hearing "country level" like its not that big of a deal
Wes was mad disrespectful to OP. I think he’s just salty
he edited it out tho?
Bill Cypher gets Evil Containment Waved.
Goku would beat everyone in fiction!
GOKU SOLOS FICTION!
Edit: this is a joke.
I took a glance at my smart watch because of a notification and I only saw the title of a video. I don't need to see the full notification to know that it's a WesSideLive video 😅
The whole superman, dc & marvel thing.
It really comes down Which version were going with, And Death battle did said That goku can beat most versions of superman, Just not the one from the main canon
First things first, Marvel characters are the same being since they debuted. Also, DC has made all of the past versions of their character canon, so that argument is pointless.
Goku been running a gauntlet since tournament of power bro can't catch a break.
Listen, if you putting Truck-Kun up there, then Light goes up there too, because he can just kill Goku with Truck-Kun!
Bill got outplayed by a couple kids and their montley crew of misfit friends
Doctor Doom would probably think fighting Goku would be a waste of time and meaningless, but after some convincing he’d wipe the floor with him. And obviously say some fire ass quote after beating him.
lol no
@@mmanzanozr1Doctor Doom has equivalent hax and tech to prep time iron man and doctor strange lol he will be using goku as a mop
Truck-kun was hitting goku constantly in MANY forms (Bulma’s Car, the truck at the end of the 22nd world tournament, etc)
Imma just say it. Plenty of people in comics and all can beat Goku. I love him, but he’s not invincible lol. Mfs just don’t wanna have the discussions and be wrong when somebody get to the facts of why he’d lose to certain people. Which is why I steer clear of these conversations of anybody who says “Nobody beating Goku”. Y’all don’t realize how wrong you are. 😂😂
I agree
Goku isn't unbeatable, but he is tough and skilled
I'm not even a goku/db fan anymore but I can accept Gokus pretty dang strong.
Fr Mario,sonic,Kirby, kratos,asura,anos,akuto sai all beats Goku easily
@@smananderson09OG Goku(Wukong) claps this list tho
the fact that there’s people that unironically believe goku and vegeta can take on all of marvel and dc need help lol
@@FingerGamers3 fr😂😂
We all know the real reason sailor moon was on this list. They got a special relationship with goku.
Bro going to get death threats for this one
Saitama isn’t really a gag character. If he truly were one, he’d stick to the gag-the gag being his title, ‘One Punch Man.’ But we’ve seen him throw how many punches against Boros and Garou?
He is
@@Spideer-t9i Convincing argument
Saitama can end Boros in one punch, he was holding back so he can get a good fight. For the Garou fight, you can say Saitama wasn’t trying to end Garou but give him a good beating due to the promise he did for the kid. Garou did technically get defeated in one punch since the fight they had never happen
I hate how Rimaru just went from Funni Slime to being able to neg diff a decent portion of anime
Thats why I like Goku more than these isekai soz azz characters they get breastfed op powers from barely training
@@artart-qg2yware we forgetting goku literally got gifted ultra instinct by a damn ki blast something a being who lived thousands of years couldn’t achieve? Dude gets a hair swap every time someone is stronger than him he quite literally gets gifted op ass powers at least life of a slime doesn’t pretend it makes sense when it clearly don’t
@@johnnycage6676 Ui was actually foreshadowed a bit in the series actually, please do research before making any sort of accusations like that.
2:32 wes made my day I burst out laughing with him😂😂
That Saitama criticism was personal. I deserved it
where's Goku vs Kirby
Here since the dragon ball super reactions keep it up
Goku brute forcing through Hit's time skip ability really opened up the conversation for Goku beating reality warpers, and that's what I think a lot of people forget.
Thats not really reality warping
And considering what Hit has actually done with his power, you can barely count it as time manipulation. In a real time situation, fighting vs hit at the same speed, its relatively short because he could easily blitz people if it was any longer than a second, and he doesn't
Wait, did you include Dragon Ball Super Heroes Goku? Because things get crazy with that one
There’s some characters that Goku can beat in base form, and there’s some that he can’t beat even if he’s in UMI. I’m saying it because we got Bill Cipher
Truck-kun the goat 🗣‼️‼️‼️
comic books have different universes dc and marvel both have their own respective multiverses and when you see these insanely strong versions of random characters like black widow but only the mian universe stuff is canon
There are Digimon that dog walk Goku, people don't understand how insane the Digimon mythology's scaling is.
Here's three examples:
Magnamon, one of the 13 Royal Knights. Magnamon wears golden armor that is quite literally made of the power of miracles.
Meaning, if Magnamon wants to win, his armor will bend reality to his will and create a positive outcome that leads to him inevitably winning.
Jesmon GX / Jesmon X-Antibody, the youngest and latest member of the Royal Knights. Jesmon can attack omnidirectionally, has three spirits that can attack individually or act as a shield for Jesmon.
Jesmon can use a skill called "OS Generics" to temporarily rewrite the laws of reality and set his damage output to 100% of his enemy's health, killing instantly. He can also use this to create what's basically an invisible wall from a video game, ensuring nobody gets near him.
Jesmon X-Antibody has access to the Ultimate War Blade Seibaken, when he pulls the sword out from his core, its ability is to straight up ELIMINATE THE ENEMY'S FIGHTING SPIRIT. It works no matter who he's up against, the fight ends as soon as the blade is drawn.
And finally, Alphamon, the leader of the Royal Knights. His speed is stated to be infinite. If he misses an attack, he can redo it an infinite number of times and from nine directions at once. He has access to magic, summoning legendary monsters.
And get this, Alphamon while bearing his signature weapon, Ouryuken, can straight up DELETE his enemies, banishing them to an inescapable dimension.
Mind you, I only mentioned three Royal Knights. The rest of them are either equally or more busted in terms of power. Don't even get me started on the Seven Great Demon Lords.
Your vids are great but PLEASE dont take AI image sponsorships. They take from other actual artists without consent or compensation and regurgitate it into an amalgamation of stolen work. Pls dont support them
Its crazy he taking ai sponsors while also being a manga fan
Straight up disrespecting all the art goats
You need to make a part 2 please
(If you do, add Godzilla so I could finally debunk my bro)
Sailor Moon.......
Smash.
Sailor Mars though...😩
Teenager btw
@@playswithsquirrels4630Based. Everyone knows that Mars is best girl
Here we go, Wes end this argument please