So you’re telling me I can sphere mode my opponent, play anti-spell, get multifaker out, special sulquitos, bounce back the sphere mode to MY HAND, and sphere mode them again next turn?
@@eldritch0golem698 Protocol states; the activation and effects of your altergeist cards cannot be negated. It doesn't state your "opponent/opponents cards" so your own skill drain also cannot negate your monsters ;)
i love this deck i own most cards my self (some being sent out upon release ) my build more a invoked build tho as aleister got alot of option in this deck
I play Altergeist camouflage at 3 and lost wind at 2 as some substitutes to other cards in this deck. My deck is slightly different though. I like camouflage because it is some good protection and lost wind can be REALLY annoying to play against.
I use spellbook of knowledge cause for us who cant use linkuriboh yet its a nice way off sending meluseek to the grave to get search and draw 2 at the same time
my favorite combo the altergeist silquitous and manifestation combo (bring altergeist silquitous from gy with manifestation then bounce it to bounce a card altergeist silquitous get a altergeist trap from gy to hand also now turning your manifestation to a once per turn compulsory, and cool part is it hard to counter if they try to destroy altergeist silquitous while equipped with manifestation she just gets it back, example say protocol ant out, i bring out altergeist silquitous with manifestation and try to bounce they strike, well altergeist silquitous second effect activate giving me back manifestation slowing down the bounce but not getting rid of it, also side note you can link off or even synchro/tribute off altergeist silquitous equipped with manifestation to get manifestation back loosing no real advantage)
Read manifestation and PSCT in general. Its a legal play in the OCG because of the text but for TCG, it is an illegal combo (why did TCG have to kill the fun)
no if manifestation is destroyed before it equipped yes you get nothing but if both are sent to gy same time the effect will trigger and of course the bounce it to get +es is ok too but ya if i play it and they mst it i get nothing
If you’re scared of damaging cards by constantly resleeving them, I recommend double sleeving. KMC perfect fits are the best ones imo (Ultimate guard ones are good too). Just protects your cards from friction and water. Idk if it’s allowed in tournaments though
#DualityPropaganda 1) People rarely Ash a Duality, but almost always Ash a Desires or a Knowledge. 2) Desires forces you to play 3-ofs of Manifestation and Silq and will more than likely hamper the deck's longevity by banishing multiple copies of key cards. Unlike most decks that play Desires, you don't just shit out tons of advantage immediately. 3) You have a low monster count and no Blue Boy so an opening Knowledge is generally useless. Its only strength is when you open it alongside Meluseek, but you trade the consistency of Duality for a less consistent power play.
Thanks, I try. I did a fair bit of testing with all above the above cards on Ygopro and, even though for some reason I see Duality way less at 3 than I ever saw Knowledge at 2, I've found it to be the best filtering option the deck has available. I've also been contemplating Lilith (from the structure deck) as a potential starter card to grab Spoofing (or Protocol to pair with it) in the event you don't draw any other cards, but I haven't actually tested it out yet. It seems like a good 1-of on paper.
Casual player here. I dont get whats so good about the Kaiju's in this deck, can someone explain it to me please? Do you just use it to sacrifice enemy monsters which are untargetable by Silquitous bounce or meluseek? Can u get rid of a Raidraptor Ultimate Falcon by just sacrificing it?
Great Channel, thanks for the Profile! I need to Ask since ist have to Start The Game again, what can be Budget cards for ash and Infinite until i could Afford them? Called by The grave for Example?
Big Vaas Mendez Indeed, excuse the autocorrect! I was just wondering about some budget changes until someone can afford more expensive cards. Im getting back in the game, but a playset of the new secret rare trap and ash will be too much this month. Thanks for noticing the grammar
-Red reboot fore the side If you oppontnet use traps and/or red reboor him self agans u -evenly match? (Fore multi facker I'm not sure of it works But just a idee -impirion iron wall or chaos hunter So your card won't be banished
MST.TV thanks i just oi ked uo the deck literally today and was wondering some things so thanks for that. Is this deck like paleo as in if i play a trap say torrential they chain mst then can i still muti faker? Or have i missed the window?
Swap the Reborn with Raigeki, this trap based deck obviously has a problem going second, so that helps. Personally I'm considering running 3 Kaiju and Interrupted Kaiju Slumber also to help with going second. I may ultimately side that package but it's a thought to hang on to.
Also, fun thing you can do: if you use Manifestation to revive Multifaker when Silq is on the field; activate manifestation to target Multi, chain silq, Multi will be revived and manifestation will be bounced back to your hand without being chained to Multi. You'll get the extra special summon with multi and manifestation will be in your hand to set again.
James Woodward That's so stupid! The card does different things depending on whether it's written in Japanese or English? Fucking Konami man! like it is objectively absurd that that's even an issue. It makes no sense to have the same card do different things because it was translated to another language. Having two separate rulings on the same card is inane
MST.TV if you run effect veiler and droll they are also viable targets for wonder wand. I play it as a 2 of. It’s pretty nice especially I can special multifaker into melluseek, wonder wand, draw 2 and search. It’s a really nice combo
What's your opinion on maining Artifact engine or outting it to the side? Also any idea of non link monsters to play, and your thoughts on Camouflage, it has a weird kinda effect but can help when you need it.
No, counter traps can only be chained to by other counter traps. There are very specific cards that can activate upon after a counter trap is used, such as Van'dalgyon, but they're rare and nobody really plays them.
If you were sure, why you asked? Btw, it seems like does work since it uses the word "if", meaning it can trigger after the chain resolves. Same as Astrograph Sorcerer activating on a new chain after the conditions are met and that chain is resolved.
Maybe you could have touched upon how Manifestation and Hexstia were mistranslated in TCG. According to ygorganization: ygorganization.com/hexhestia/ In OCG, Manifestation does not have to equip to the monster to summon it. Hexstia could negate spell/trap effects as well. I tend to notice that people forget that Personal Spoofing has a cost on activation. I always need to remind people to pay the cost when I destroy the card upon activation.
It's completely dead going second, since they'll have negates on board already. Going first, it's useless against Pendulum Magicians, Dracos can play around it with Majesty Maiden, 60-card has Snow, Mekk-Knight Invoked has Aleister, the list goes on. Then there's also the fact that Evenly Matched is a thing. It's better as a side card in certain matchups, but right now I wouldn't run it at all, and certainly wouldn't main it.
In testing direct to computer recording, there was almost no post editing except cutting but I need a better camera to this. The compression hurt to footage alot
worthy (will) Spoofing at 3 is a must in this deck (since you can't search it off of Marionetter and have to draw it). It searches any monster you need (and is a great way to summon Multifaker if you didn't open with it) and allows you to shuffle back your Silquitous to be summoned off of Multifaker. It also allows you to shuffle back a monster you summon off of Manifestation like a Marionetter, which you can then add back to your hand anyway. Another great thing about it is that it allows you to dodge effects that target your monsters like Fairy Tail- Snow, Master Peace, etc.
zachchristian22 camouflage prevents targeting in general and if banished from grave can prevent ANY altergiest card from being destroyed. The only time I'd like spoofing is when I don't have access to a altergeist but by then I probably had little business winning anyway. The only thing you'd have is it enables multifaker, but any trap does the job. I just can't see at 3. In the backrow.dek variant I could maybe see two.... even then that's only if you need to fill up space.
worthy (will) Spoofing can search and summon Multifaker all on its own, plus it searches any monster you need and recycles your resources. That on its own makes it one of the best cards in the deck. I don't know how much more I can emphasize that Spoofing is absolutely essential to the consistency of the deck. Not to mention that Camouflage isn't really that good, unless maybe you're running it as a one-of.
zachchristian22 provided you have the dead altergiest card to swap out and this is ignoring hand traps or mst..... plus if you already have access into meluseek, faker and possibly marionette then spoofing does nothing because you can add back your resources anyway. Camouflage regardless of how you feel, at least, provides something that nothing else in the deck does *(atm)* Granted, we'd be getting off track. The point being three is too much and causes problems.... provided it's worth running at all. Yes faker is a great card, but faker or bust isn't correct.
Spoofing is an absolute must 3 of. Camouflage forces you to take direct damage and while it does make your monster untargetable... 1. It means you don't want to bounce it with Silquitous, remember that bouncing your own monsters can be used to protect them from destruction or disrupt your opponent. Being forced to bounce my Camouflage and then they run over my 500 Meluseek doesn't seem great to me. The alternative is I could bounce Meluseek, but then I've wasted a trap for nothing. 2. Camouflage doesn't toolbox your entire deck at will. Spoofing let's you search Multifaker and Summon for free, Spoofing lets you double attack negate with Kunquery, Spoofing lets you send Silquitous back to the deck on end phase of opponents turn to add Marionetter or Meluseek And Camouflage doesn't let you dodge non targeting destruction like dark hole or raigeki. Spoofing is never, ever a dead card. Spoofing unbricks hands, adds the single best card in the deck (Multifaker) let's you get rid of Traps to search monsters, since you run a pretty light monster line up outside of hand traps, lets you dodge Veiler, Ghost Ogre, destruction, etc. The fact that Camouflage does kinda the same thing by protecting the monster from targeting and forcing you to take battle damage is pretty bad when you could instead just Spoofing the monster away, search Kunquery and negate the attack altogether, then next turn Spoofing the Kunquery and search whatever you need. The card adds infinite utility and flexibility, it's not a simple tech choice, it's a mandatory 3 of just like Multifaker. I would always take Personal Spoofing in my hand over not having it. It is that good.
So you’re telling me I can sphere mode my opponent, play anti-spell, get multifaker out, special sulquitos, bounce back the sphere mode to MY HAND, and sphere mode them again next turn?
Altergeist was such a low key sleeper deck in Code of the Duelist that it wasn't even in the set list. :)
That's was my bad
An interesting tech people like to throw in is skill drain because you dodge it with protocol.
You dodge it? Like really? Can someone explain me the ruling?
@@eldritch0golem698 Protocol states; the activation and effects of your altergeist cards cannot be negated. It doesn't state your "opponent/opponents cards" so your own skill drain also cannot negate your monsters ;)
i love this deck i own most cards my self (some being sent out upon release ) my build more a invoked build tho as aleister got alot of option in this deck
I play Altergeist camouflage at 3 and lost wind at 2 as some substitutes to other cards in this deck. My deck is slightly different though. I like camouflage because it is some good protection and lost wind can be REALLY annoying to play against.
I use spellbook of knowledge cause for us who cant use linkuriboh yet its a nice way off sending meluseek to the grave to get search and draw 2 at the same time
Nice profile 👌🏼
I don’t have my 3 multifaker yet but I’m gonna get them today. Gonna play either them or counter fairies for nationals
Sleeper deck? Yes!
But not from Code of the Duelist. Circuit Break is the set they first appeared
stevek2000 I could’ve sworn I got a silq in code of the duelist
my favorite combo the altergeist silquitous and manifestation combo (bring altergeist silquitous from gy with manifestation then bounce it to bounce a card altergeist silquitous get a altergeist trap from gy to hand also now turning your manifestation to a once per turn compulsory, and cool part is it hard to counter if they try to destroy altergeist silquitous while equipped with manifestation she just gets it back, example say protocol ant out, i bring out altergeist silquitous with manifestation and try to bounce they strike, well altergeist silquitous second effect activate giving me back manifestation slowing down the bounce but not getting rid of it, also side note you can link off or even synchro/tribute off altergeist silquitous equipped with manifestation to get manifestation back loosing no real advantage)
Read manifestation and PSCT in general. Its a legal play in the OCG because of the text but for TCG, it is an illegal combo (why did TCG have to kill the fun)
no if manifestation is destroyed before it equipped yes you get nothing but if both are sent to gy same time the effect will trigger and of course the bounce it to get +es is ok too but ya if i play it and they mst it i get nothing
Yugiohdeckmaster in the tcg it has to equip in order to special the monster, so unfortunately they killed that combo
I still main 2 scapegoat. 1 card borreload is still strong, and it can just run over MP, or bait its effect
If you’re scared of damaging cards by constantly resleeving them, I recommend double sleeving. KMC perfect fits are the best ones imo (Ultimate guard ones are good too). Just protects your cards from friction and water. Idk if it’s allowed in tournaments though
I only care about my expensive cards... But hand traps are just needed in every deck
So I just proxy them since I have then. And it's not like I play with all the decks at once in a tournament.
Yeah true. Just a suggestion. Either way, it was a super useful and insightful deck profile, so thanks!
@MST you can’t activate the trap you get from marionetter the turn you search it.
Due to game mechanics I believe that it works
You use it in your opponent turn.
MST.TV oh I know it was weird how you worded it on the video that all buddy love the deck profile
Could we see an updated version of this with the new ban list as the format kicks in properly
It's not all too different tbh
Very informative video thank you Tom box!
Where’d you get those shatter foil sleeves??? I want them !
*Sleeper Deck From Circuit Break actually not cotd
Was it? i thought i had all his stuff forever...~
MST.TV yeah the first altergeist support dropped in cibr not much different tho since it was right after cotd
#DualityPropaganda
1) People rarely Ash a Duality, but almost always Ash a Desires or a Knowledge.
2) Desires forces you to play 3-ofs of Manifestation and Silq and will more than likely hamper the deck's longevity by banishing multiple copies of key cards. Unlike most decks that play Desires, you don't just shit out tons of advantage immediately.
3) You have a low monster count and no Blue Boy so an opening Knowledge is generally useless. Its only strength is when you open it alongside Meluseek, but you trade the consistency of Duality for a less consistent power play.
Very knowledgeable analysis.
Thanks, I try. I did a fair bit of testing with all above the above cards on Ygopro and, even though for some reason I see Duality way less at 3 than I ever saw Knowledge at 2, I've found it to be the best filtering option the deck has available.
I've also been contemplating Lilith (from the structure deck) as a potential starter card to grab Spoofing (or Protocol to pair with it) in the event you don't draw any other cards, but I haven't actually tested it out yet. It seems like a good 1-of on paper.
Unfortunately Lilith cannot grab it... Normal traps only...
MST.TV that'll teach me to read cards :P
So how are you activating the trap marrionetter set that same turn?
17:25
U can activate the trap card u just set with marionetter? O:
Casual player here. I dont get whats so good about the Kaiju's in this deck, can someone explain it to me please? Do you just use it to sacrifice enemy monsters which are untargetable by Silquitous bounce or meluseek? Can u get rid of a Raidraptor Ultimate Falcon by just sacrificing it?
Kunqueary specials from hand to negate attacks
Great Channel, thanks for the Profile! I need to Ask since ist have to Start The Game again, what can be Budget cards for ash and Infinite until i could Afford them? Called by The grave for Example?
Philip Karajan Good grammar is something that could help
Big Vaas Mendez
Indeed, excuse the autocorrect! I was just wondering about some budget changes until someone can afford more expensive cards. Im getting back in the game, but a playset of the new secret rare trap and ash will be too much this month. Thanks for noticing the grammar
you cant really play the deck without either being in there you need atleast one. I suggest saving up and buy the set of infinite imperninence.
We need a Multifaker for tellarknights
I'd consider one for one just to get that meluseek search faster, overall very solid profile though!
Jovan Cukic
Maby a difficult
Sins u whant your monsters MOOSTLY in the hand
And not the grave
Can the trap that Marionetter set be activated the same turn?
TomBox, I main deck Called By The Grave in my Altergeist list and I have no regrets. Try it out!
-Red reboot fore the side
If you oppontnet use traps and/or red reboor him self agans u
-evenly match? (Fore multi facker
I'm not sure of it works
But just a idee
-impirion iron wall or chaos hunter
So your card won't be banished
Yes
So if i solemned can i then activate multifaker after since its own chain?
Once solemn resolves, you can multifaker in the next new chain
MST.TV thanks i just oi ked uo the deck literally today and was wondering some things so thanks for that. Is this deck like paleo as in if i play a trap say torrential they chain mst then can i still muti faker? Or have i missed the window?
Kunceury is so good. Just negates and atk even it its an altergiest monster you control. And then negates a card your opponent controls >
I have several builds I'm testing:
Altergeist Paleo
Altergeist artifacts
Chris Jones altergeist paleo is not bad bro it really good actually you need to run the frogs 🐸
Javier Talavera that's what I'm thinking to. My first build was with a Paleo engine just to have more backrow hate and a TA for extra neg
ya i run a few paleo
Chris Jones multifaker locks you into only summoning altergeist though so special summoning paleo and artifacts would be tough
Anthony Daquet how would it be tough? She doesn't lock you for only special altergeist for the rest of turn .
I use magic planter as my draw power cuz dupe traps xd
And i use secret village, but might keep it in side instead
What kind of Sleeves are that in the main deck?
Dragon shield purple
Thanks keep up the good vids
Swap the Reborn with Raigeki, this trap based deck obviously has a problem going second, so that helps. Personally I'm considering running 3 Kaiju and Interrupted Kaiju Slumber also to help with going second. I may ultimately side that package but it's a thought to hang on to.
I agree with u the raigeki board wipe could come in handy with my weak monsters.
Also, fun thing you can do: if you use Manifestation to revive Multifaker when Silq is on the field; activate manifestation to target Multi, chain silq, Multi will be revived and manifestation will be bounced back to your hand without being chained to Multi. You'll get the extra special summon with multi and manifestation will be in your hand to set again.
Also consider Emultaelf. When it's summoned as a monster it protects Protocol, Manifestation, can Camouflage if you run that
Nick DePaulo in TCG manifestation has to be on the field on resolution to get the special summon
James Woodward That's so stupid! The card does different things depending on whether it's written in Japanese or English? Fucking Konami man!
like it is objectively absurd that that's even an issue. It makes no sense to have the same card do different things because it was translated to another language. Having two separate rulings on the same card is inane
Please make trickstar and gadget abc deck profile, please make anti meta deck profile with inspector boarder and satellarknight deck profile :D
world chalice next ?
have you considered playing wonder wand? you have many targets
I don't want to send them to grave except for multifaker or meluseek ... But I can use them for other resources
MST.TV if you run effect veiler and droll they are also viable targets for wonder wand. I play it as a 2 of. It’s pretty nice especially I can special multifaker into melluseek, wonder wand, draw 2 and search. It’s a really nice combo
magical dimension?
What's your opinion on maining Artifact engine or outting it to the side? Also any idea of non link monsters to play, and your thoughts on Camouflage, it has a weird kinda effect but can help when you need it.
CODE of the duellist??? you mean circuit break right?
Artifact sorta works but bricks too
Cant you summon multifaker after you red reboot something?
Yes
No, counter traps can only be chained to by other counter traps. There are very specific cards that can activate upon after a counter trap is used, such as Van'dalgyon, but they're rare and nobody really plays them.
VAD Montblanc I'm pretty sure multifaker can summon after reboot. It activates after reboot resolves? Like how you can summon it off of spoofing
If you were sure, why you asked? Btw, it seems like does work since it uses the word "if", meaning it can trigger after the chain resolves. Same as Astrograph Sorcerer activating on a new chain after the conditions are met and that chain is resolved.
VAD Montblanc i asked for MST.TVs answer, no offense. I asked my local judge that and he said ya so i wanted to be sure so i don't cheat.
Maybe you could have touched upon how Manifestation and Hexstia were mistranslated in TCG. According to ygorganization:
ygorganization.com/hexhestia/
In OCG, Manifestation does not have to equip to the monster to summon it. Hexstia could negate spell/trap effects as well.
I tend to notice that people forget that Personal Spoofing has a cost on activation. I always need to remind people to pay the cost when I destroy the card upon activation.
You can't activate a trap set by marionetter the turn it was set.
I only have 2 multifaker and 1 impermanence so far. Tomorrow that changes :3
No rivalry?
Kaijus conflict with multifaker, I would rather side mind controls and Raigeki for draco
Damn it konami, give us linkuriboh😭😭😭
Alena Dizdarevic soon
(In a strucker deck)
You must not be American 😂
Chris Jones greetings from Austria 😉😏
Chris Jones could be autocorrection.
The only extra deck monsters u need to go into are linkuriboh n hexstia. Anymore than that, then that's when you know, you gone done fucked it up
Magicians left and right hands might work with that deck.
atbender89 No, those cards suck
Trickstar?
Why not playing hidden village of spellcasters? With it you can block your opponents spells
Side it~
It's completely dead going second, since they'll have negates on board already. Going first, it's useless against Pendulum Magicians, Dracos can play around it with Majesty Maiden, 60-card has Snow, Mekk-Knight Invoked has Aleister, the list goes on. Then there's also the fact that Evenly Matched is a thing. It's better as a side card in certain matchups, but right now I wouldn't run it at all, and certainly wouldn't main it.
Monsterslots I play that in mine, with metaverse
people will play it when we get brandish i guess
Silq at 1 is fine, it always bricks for me. Every. Single. Time.
the heart of the Silq is not strong enough with you yet...maybe 2 months later now it is xD
great content. but maybe you should invest in new equipment :) no hate, would just enjoy a little better quality
Game0saur it’s good quality already
In testing direct to computer recording, there was almost no post editing except cutting but I need a better camera to this. The compression hurt to footage alot
I know of a great way to help Tombox acquire said equipment ;)
I honestly don't like spoonfing but I suppose it's a decent tech
worthy (will)
Spoofing at 3 is a must in this deck (since you can't search it off of Marionetter and have to draw it). It searches any monster you need (and is a great way to summon Multifaker if you didn't open with it) and allows you to shuffle back your Silquitous to be summoned off of Multifaker. It also allows you to shuffle back a monster you summon off of Manifestation like a Marionetter, which you can then add back to your hand anyway. Another great thing about it is that it allows you to dodge effects that target your monsters like Fairy Tail- Snow, Master Peace, etc.
zachchristian22 camouflage prevents targeting in general and if banished from grave can prevent ANY altergiest card from being destroyed. The only time I'd like spoofing is when I don't have access to a altergeist but by then I probably had little business winning anyway.
The only thing you'd have is it enables multifaker, but any trap does the job. I just can't see at 3. In the backrow.dek variant I could maybe see two.... even then that's only if you need to fill up space.
worthy (will)
Spoofing can search and summon Multifaker all on its own, plus it searches any monster you need and recycles your resources. That on its own makes it one of the best cards in the deck. I don't know how much more I can emphasize that Spoofing is absolutely essential to the consistency of the deck. Not to mention that Camouflage isn't really that good, unless maybe you're running it as a one-of.
zachchristian22 provided you have the dead altergiest card to swap out and this is ignoring hand traps or mst..... plus if you already have access into meluseek, faker and possibly marionette then spoofing does nothing because you can add back your resources anyway. Camouflage regardless of how you feel, at least, provides something that nothing else in the deck does *(atm)* Granted, we'd be getting off track. The point being three is too much and causes problems.... provided it's worth running at all.
Yes faker is a great card, but faker or bust isn't correct.
Spoofing is an absolute must 3 of. Camouflage forces you to take direct damage and while it does make your monster untargetable...
1. It means you don't want to bounce it with Silquitous, remember that bouncing your own monsters can be used to protect them from destruction or disrupt your opponent. Being forced to bounce my Camouflage and then they run over my 500 Meluseek doesn't seem great to me. The alternative is I could bounce Meluseek, but then I've wasted a trap for nothing.
2. Camouflage doesn't toolbox your entire deck at will. Spoofing let's you search Multifaker and Summon for free, Spoofing lets you double attack negate with Kunquery, Spoofing lets you send Silquitous back to the deck on end phase of opponents turn to add Marionetter or Meluseek
And Camouflage doesn't let you dodge non targeting destruction like dark hole or raigeki.
Spoofing is never, ever a dead card. Spoofing unbricks hands, adds the single best card in the deck (Multifaker) let's you get rid of Traps to search monsters, since you run a pretty light monster line up outside of hand traps, lets you dodge Veiler, Ghost Ogre, destruction, etc.
The fact that Camouflage does kinda the same thing by protecting the monster from targeting and forcing you to take battle damage is pretty bad when you could instead just Spoofing the monster away, search Kunquery and negate the attack altogether, then next turn Spoofing the Kunquery and search whatever you need.
The card adds infinite utility and flexibility, it's not a simple tech choice, it's a mandatory 3 of just like Multifaker.
I would always take Personal Spoofing in my hand over not having it. It is that good.
Please speak up - please.
The chain where chain link 1 spoofing and chain link 2 protcol is illegal since spoofing must shuffle a faced up card if it's from the field