Thank you for recognizing women. Everyone else tries to bury our accomplishments to ignore us to diminish us. Thank you for uplifting us. You are a goddess
Weavers of fate has always made sense to me as I see the community’s fate being hinged on the production of textiles and what resources those textiles could bring to that community.
This is so enlightening Max. It always feels grounding to watch your shows. They are so rich in HERstory. I want to do some spindling now... for ☮ in our troubled world. I appreciated seeing some images of my motherland the Netherlands, the low lands and European his/herstory. Thank You.
Fascinating, thanks. I always thought that women spinning referred to the spinning wheel. I take it that the distaff and spindle predated the spinning wheel? And that some clever woman eons ago figured out she could spin and twist wool etc. into thread by using a drop stick, or distaff, and weight, the spindle? Amazing. Who would have thought of that? You’ve explained so much and are obviously a brilliant scholar, but I’m still unclear on how the device, step by step, actually made yarn. I do knit, but I’ve never made my own yarn. Love how the women transformed a necessity, to make cloth, into something sacred. “Pray always,” one of their sons was to one day say. Women already were.
Women held the means of production as no society could function without textiles. With the on set of patriarchal religion spinners or powerful women were labeled and had to be controlled. You could look at it as when machine manufacturing came into being man part of the word could be more of a reference of men taking power rather than spinners. In English spinster is used or viewed as a derogatory term while in the pagan age spinster was a woman who was wealthy enough through spinning so she didn't need a man. I wonder how many spinners and weavers were burnt as witches?
At 1.09 I think this picture is actually a fox stealing a goose, chances are the woman is trying to stop him. Like in Chaucer's story 'The nun's priest's tale'.
Max very interesting presentation but the cosmic weaver idea is a cosmological concept with some horrific traditions. I suggest that you read my chapter 9 (free online) extracted from my book Akashic Records and Holy Grails.
@@brightbite its totally possible, i havent read up on it in a long time the book i had was from the 80s i think theres a lot from the 70s/80s that just got made up kind of like the during victorian era, i dont have the book anymore, you are probably right
Really loved this spinning history! Has anyone noticed that distaff look a lot like royal scepters? Long ones and short ones, this powerful technology could have possibly been eyed with jealousy for their power. There is also a shepherd's crook showing up in Egypt as a scepter, but no crooks appear in royal hands much after Egypt, even for the Pope -- there may be a cross on the end, but they still have a cage for the fiber, and look a lot like a distaff. Could distaff have been appropriated by the patriarchy from women shaman spinners as a sign of sovereignty? ( ...and then turn around and demean the original owners with disparaging names like spinsters?) Just something I've wondered about since learning to spin.
Interesting possibility. Or the scepter descends from the Stone Age mace, a club with a suitable rounded stone affixed to a stout stick. War was up front and personal head bashing back then. Best basher became headman, his club became sacred, passed on down his lineage. Royal clubs evolved into silver and gold ones but always with a knob at the business end and stones-gems. I do think it logical to assume patriarchy could not tolerate a female symbol, the distaff, that was so reminiscent of a scepter, as the image at 1:06:58 depicts. She’s holding his head, just like the scene depicted in the Egyptian panels in which pharaoh is yanking the enemy by the hair, his other hand raised to strike his club into his captive’s head. Yeah. Projection. All those whitchified images toward the end of the video: men projecting their age-old head bashing lust onto women.
WHO'S research IS this? I am so enthralled and complimentary I could fill this comment w inches of txt! Vainly I long for anyone to share this with together and drink in the images. This research is a lifestyle wk!! Not unlike spinning no matter what else one was doing... I could but listen while I cooked. Sat to eat to watched the last international photos. May I suggest a related correction. Beside photographers poising a desired shot......many distanff absent ethnic mod photos are 'plying' 'second spin' of 2 pre-spun from fiber. Staged process fiber that needed prior prep. Exception in the Americas several groups spinning only went as far for a usable single ply yarns for loose bulky knitting. Ex dog undercoat Coastal NAmerica. Some S America simular bulky knitting with wool single ply. Bty the plant fiber might have been yucca like a coarse fiber. I think pinapple plant was also used. Thank YOU so much. Hardly wait till I can watch slowly on a big screen. What other vids have YOU done?? SpocksDaughter UK now Idaho home Just a collector
Hello! I love your channel! Im brazilian, therapist in Natural Gynecology and currently doing a master in Contemporary Menstrual Studies, and I would like to know if you are up to maybe make a talk with me about the power of menstruation in ancient times in my channel? Would be lovely! If you feel like it, feel free to contact me! Melina.
The best book I've found on this subject is Blood, Bread and Roses: How Menstruation Created the World. Also, Maria Gimbutas has helpful info re ancient menstrual rites. In the early 90s, I studied and wrote and made art on these topics. I created an installation space in a 30' hexagon room dedicated to women's contributions to culture thru weaving.
@@drawingmomentum that's beautiful. I'm actually in the module of Menstruation, Art and Culture in my master :) would love to see your work if possible
@@melinaaugustothat sounds like a great class! When I was at school, I was lucky to be able to take some unique classes (Supernatural Culture and Phenomenon, the Feminine in Mythology...) that the head professors of religion dept and of the physics dept co-taught. I don't have my artwork really gathered in any 1 spot to view. Heck, after so many years, most of my art is scattered around the world. 😂 I stopped using my fbk, but there's still posts of my art there. I do have my (somewhat outdated) website where I sell my unique coloring pages and a few drawings as prints. ...drawingmomentum... 😊 ~ Tiffany Carman
Thank you for recognizing women. Everyone else tries to bury our accomplishments to ignore us to diminish us. Thank you for uplifting us. You are a goddess
stop telling that sad story and take what you want of the world. you are being too passive. every man is a woman and every woman is a man.
Weavers of fate has always made sense to me as I see the community’s fate being hinged on the production of textiles and what resources those textiles could bring to that community.
nope. thanks for your rigid, boring take on materialism alone.
@@jfreeman2927 You are very welcome. Have a blessed day! 💜
"Spinning tales", "putting a spin on a story". Thank you for showing our unrecognized herstory!
This is so enlightening Max. It always feels grounding to watch your shows. They are so rich in HERstory. I want to do some spindling now... for ☮ in our troubled world. I appreciated seeing some images of my motherland the Netherlands, the low lands and European his/herstory. Thank You.
Fascinating, thanks. I always thought that women spinning referred to the spinning wheel. I take it that the distaff and spindle predated the spinning wheel? And that some clever woman eons ago figured out she could spin and twist wool etc. into thread by using a drop stick, or distaff, and weight, the spindle? Amazing. Who would have thought of that? You’ve explained so much and are obviously a brilliant scholar, but I’m still unclear on how the device, step by step, actually made yarn. I do knit, but I’ve never made my own yarn. Love how the women transformed a necessity, to make cloth, into something sacred. “Pray always,” one of their sons was to one day say. Women already were.
Fascinating and lots to ruminate over. I feel much better about the title Spinster now.
When a cat purrs, in danish it is called "spinder" same word we use for spinning yarn , "at spinde"
I love the theory that the Venus of Milo was holding a distaff and spindle when the statue was intact.
and then infinite energy was separated from intelligent infinity and both her arms were removed?
I love your videos and research into all things woman. This video was so wonderful! 🔥
Thank you very much for teaching me.
This is a beautiful presentation. Thank you again, Max! I’m always encouraged by your work, and by the ages of women before us.
Another great documentary, profound! Thank you❤
What wonderful work, as usual. Thank you for being here for us all❤
So much wonderful information! Max you're the best❤🙏🌹
Spinning sow pictures are adorable
Fascinating presentation Thank you 🙏
Women held the means of production as no society could function without textiles. With the on set of patriarchal religion spinners or powerful women were labeled and had to be controlled.
You could look at it as when machine manufacturing came into being man part of the word could be more of a reference of men taking power rather than spinners.
In English spinster is used or viewed as a derogatory term while in the pagan age spinster was a woman who was wealthy enough through spinning so she didn't need a man.
I wonder how many spinners and weavers were burnt as witches?
Exactly why the only genuine feminist social media, spinster, is so called!
Never knew that before thanks.
Looking forward to the Titanedes! Sorry if I spelled that wrong.
At 1.09 I think this picture is actually a fox stealing a goose, chances are the woman is trying to stop him. Like in Chaucer's story 'The nun's priest's tale'.
Max very interesting presentation but the cosmic weaver idea is a cosmological concept with some horrific traditions. I suggest that you read my chapter 9 (free online) extracted from my book Akashic Records and Holy Grails.
the blank rune in the elder futhark is called wyrd, it means fate too, it supposedly means it out of your hands, if i'm remembering correctly
I thought the blank Rune was a modern day invention and did not exist in the original Runes?
@@brightbite its totally possible, i havent read up on it in a long time the book i had was from the 80s i think theres a lot from the 70s/80s that just got made up kind of like the during victorian era, i dont have the book anymore, you are probably right
Really loved this spinning history! Has anyone noticed that distaff look a lot like royal scepters? Long ones and short ones, this powerful technology could have possibly been eyed with jealousy for their power. There is also a shepherd's crook showing up in Egypt as a scepter, but no crooks appear in royal hands much after Egypt, even for the Pope -- there may be a cross on the end, but they still have a cage for the fiber, and look a lot like a distaff. Could distaff have been appropriated by the patriarchy from women shaman spinners as a sign of sovereignty? ( ...and then turn around and demean the original owners with disparaging names like spinsters?) Just something I've wondered about since learning to spin.
Interesting possibility. Or the scepter descends from the Stone Age mace, a club with a suitable rounded stone affixed to a stout stick. War was up front and personal head bashing back then. Best basher became headman, his club became sacred, passed on down his lineage. Royal clubs evolved into silver and gold ones but always with a knob at the business end and stones-gems. I do think it logical to assume patriarchy could not tolerate a female symbol, the distaff, that was so reminiscent of a scepter, as the image at 1:06:58 depicts. She’s holding his head, just like the scene depicted in the Egyptian panels in which pharaoh is yanking the enemy by the hair, his other hand raised to strike his club into his captive’s head. Yeah. Projection. All those whitchified images toward the end of the video: men projecting their age-old head bashing lust onto women.
I need this. To know.
WHO'S research IS this? I am so enthralled and complimentary I could fill this comment w inches of txt!
Vainly I long for anyone to share this with together and drink in the images. This research is a lifestyle wk!!
Not unlike spinning no matter what else one was doing... I could but listen while I cooked. Sat to eat to watched the last international photos.
May I suggest a related correction. Beside photographers poising a desired shot......many distanff absent ethnic mod photos are 'plying' 'second spin' of 2 pre-spun from fiber. Staged process fiber that needed prior prep.
Exception in the Americas several groups spinning only went as far for a usable single ply yarns for loose bulky knitting. Ex dog undercoat Coastal NAmerica. Some S America simular bulky knitting with wool single ply.
Bty the plant fiber might have been yucca like a coarse fiber. I think pinapple plant was also used.
Thank YOU so much. Hardly wait till I can watch slowly on a big screen. What other vids have YOU done??
SpocksDaughter
UK now Idaho home
Just a collector
Now men own and operate the clothing industry. The top chefs are men.
Hello! I love your channel! Im brazilian, therapist in Natural Gynecology and currently doing a master in Contemporary Menstrual Studies, and I would like to know if you are up to maybe make a talk with me about the power of menstruation in ancient times in my channel? Would be lovely! If you feel like it, feel free to contact me! Melina.
The best book I've found on this subject is Blood, Bread and Roses: How Menstruation Created the World.
Also, Maria Gimbutas has helpful info re ancient menstrual rites.
In the early 90s, I studied and wrote and made art on these topics. I created an installation space in a 30' hexagon room dedicated to women's contributions to culture thru weaving.
@@drawingmomentum that's beautiful. I'm actually in the module of Menstruation, Art and Culture in my master :) would love to see your work if possible
@@melinaaugustothat sounds like a great class! When I was at school, I was lucky to be able to take some unique classes (Supernatural Culture and Phenomenon, the Feminine in Mythology...) that the head professors of religion dept and of the physics dept co-taught.
I don't have my artwork really gathered in any 1 spot to view. Heck, after so many years, most of my art is scattered around the world. 😂 I stopped using my fbk, but there's still posts of my art there. I do have my (somewhat outdated) website where I sell my unique coloring pages and a few drawings as prints. ...drawingmomentum... 😊 ~ Tiffany Carman
Contemporary Menstrual Studies...
I know. I am not knocking it at all, but it sounds like a parody. It's great. @@dickvolen4589