Tyson On Jet Fuel! Same Coach - Patterson's Blazing FAST Peekaboo Boxing Explained
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- Before Mike Tyson the first Peek A Boo heavyweight champions was the incredible Floyd Patterson. Patterson boxed far differently than Tyson, his style more versatile but less focused. He focused on speed instead of power.
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The original video was removed do to a copyright strike for using a 5 second clip of Cus teaching Tyson. It was removed by the channel Official Boxing Gods, Inc, who put the place to contact them to pay them for the footage from and center on their channel page and website. They are going after multiple channels, including Boxing Life and Legends of Boxing In Color, that I know of. Last year they tried to strike 5 videos but RUclips told them no, stating "We believe your content is protected by fair use, fair dealing, or a similar exception to copyright protection." But for some reason they let them through this time.
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I am doing everything I can to fight this and have the original videos put back up. The strikers have posted to complain about having their own videos taken down before, and the man who shot the footage in question, Steve Lott, was all about sharing his stuff for free before he passed. So needless to say he would be appalled and ashamed of these new owners betraying his legacy like this. I will fight this. Happy training!
Hey man, you work is exceptional, hope u will manage with this shitty situation
Could you please do a break down of dmitry Bivol?
im so sick of youtubes nonsense bro you make GREAT videos thank you for continuing to do so
Go to court if you must, dont give them an inch!
I've reported Official Boxing Gods, Inc for false copyright claims under "Harassment and Cyberbullying" and I encourage others to do the same, a well placed counter only seems fitting.
My grandfather said people watching TV back then wouldn't see Patterson Knocking people out because of his speed and the TV and cameras couldn't pick up his hands.
Floyd Patterson destroyed Archie Moore a lot easier and a lot faster with fewer punches compared to what Marciano did. 42+ year old Moore even dropped Marciano like a sack of grain. That proves Marciano is overrated. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over-accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."* Emanuel was simply stating the facts. Rocky fans are the 'ONLY' fans that don't believe size matters. If size doesn't matter why hasn't there been (and never will be) another 184 lb Heavyweight champion since little Rocky's little era 4 generations ago?
*@ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight*
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez You clearly are taking stewards words out of context. when steward said marciano was "over-accomplished" and then corrected himself and said "over-achiever", he meant that in the best way possible. He was NOT calling Rocky "overrated". He even said just shortly after that kronk gym had more pictures of rocky up than they had of ali. he said rocky was the greatest achiever of all heavyweights.
only thing you got right was steward saying rocky was too small.
which i don't know why you have to make up or twist the late great emanuel steward's words to fit your narrative more.
anyone can go watch the interview and see that steward was NOT calling rocky overrated and was in fact giving him some flowers before saying he was too small.
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Then why did Emanuel say he had more pictures of Rocky up in his gym than Ali? riddle me that. go watch the interview and listen to what he ACTUALLY said.
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Emanuel clearly was saying rocky fought against all the odds and achieved more than anyone ever could with those cards stacked against them.
He then at the end said "but I think he's too small"
It's not my fault that you or those rocky fans have comprehension skills of a toddler.
I don't have an agenda either, i'm just telling you what he ACTUALLY said.
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez It's absolutely hilarious when people are so confidently incorrect. I personally think Marciano is overrated, but Manny wouldn't have agreed with either me or you.
"Marciano’s style definitely, he wouldn’t have made it today because when you don’t have size you make up for it with speed and he didn’t have the best speed, either. He came along at a time when there were still good heavyweights. I don’t think he gets the credit for what he should have gotten for fighting the guys like, even though Marciano was fighting (Ezzard) Charles when Charles was a little past his prime he was still a good tough fighter. I look at Archie Moore, when he knocked out Archie, I think Archie came back and went on another winning streak and really he had never even lost the light heavyweight title. I think he was the epitome of what we call just an “overachiever”. When I was at the Kronk Gym, we had big posters pictures of Marciano and no one could figure out why because he wasn’t considered a great, but when you looked at his record and you looked at his accomplishments regardless of what, all you can do is be the best of your era. I think of his era, he fought and he beat the best but the fact that he was a small guy, not that well coordinated, short arms, had so many different physical handicaps and went on to do what he did through just unbelievable training and conditioning and great one punch punching power. So you have to respect him for that, and there was nobody of his era that he dodged. He just couldn’t find anybody who was a great fast fighter so he did what he could do for his era-beat everybody who was out there. I think he was a much smarter fighter than people realize, too, in his own little short of way. I studied films of him, I would see him like get into a move and look like he’s going to move into a little clinch and just when he’s about to touch each other he changes in there with a short left hook, and he would sometimes look at your body like he was going to throw his right hand or jab to the body and then throw the right hand right over the top, but he was very cute and smart in his own ways because he knew he was handicapped in other areas. I think his punching power and conditioning were phenomenal. You look at the knockouts of (Jersey Joe) Walcott-one punch in the thirteenth round after losing and being knocked down, and then to come back with Archie Moore after being on the deck with Moore, who was still a good fighter, and came back and knocked him out, and then the cut, nose torn completely apart with Ezzard Charles and they told him they were about to stop the fight and he just comes storming out and scores a knockout over that. So you had to have a lot of respect for that. And he created the word “Rocky”. He made it have a lot of value because for particularly the Italian fighters the kid coming up, even today, a lot of them feel he’s still their hero because he had more impact I think as a champion, in particular for the Italian kids and the white fighters, than any fighter probably maybe that I know of in history because of that unbelievable one punch punching power and his image for being in unbelievable condition.
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Something else worth noting is how small Floyd Patterson was as a heavyweight. He punched well above his weight.
I love that you called out the opps 1:25
I just love Patterson. Not only as a Fighter but also but as a humanitarian. e.g. even if he lost against Sunny Lyston he was one of the first to go and comfort Sunny when he lost against Ali.
I’ve read a biography on Floyd as well as his own autobiography and I’ve gained even more respect for him. He was one of the few decent honest men in a business full of scumbags.
He refused to fight in front of segregated crowds almost a decade before Ali did. Despite their love/hate rivalry I think Ali really respected him and took some inspiration from Floyd regarding his activism. Floyd was the only person he let call him Clay his entire life…
@@impulse_xsAli calling Floyd an uncle tom was uncalled for
@@wasabi5338 agree. It was really disrespectful and one of the times Ali really crossed the line, especially since he knew what Patterson had done as champion.
@@wasabi5338muhammad ali was targeted by floyd for being a Muslim, so I guess it cancels out
even if he hated muslim boxers like ali,but yeah man i'll still take the goods and his style was literally good,he's an image of what tyson could achieved if he got no don keys outside of his house and cus d'amato still on his side until the very end.
My favorite fighter and probably the most underrated and disrespected champion ever. People don’t realize how impressive Mr. Patterson’s career accomplishments are:
- 55-8-1 with 40 KO victories
- Olympic Gold Medalist
- Golden Gloves Champion
- First 2x Undisputed HW Champion
-2nd youngest HW champ in history(only beaten by Tyson)
- First HW to regain undisputed title
- First HW to regain title from the same opponent
- Multiple professional victories in two different weight classes
- More recoveries from knockdowns than any HW champ
His supposed glass chin and lack of power are both myths imo. He got dropped more than any HW champ but also got up more than anyone else. Liston, one of the hardest punchers I history, had to practically kill him twice because he refused to stay down. He had a career KO rate of 72%, almost the same as Liston’s 78% finish rate. His KO of Ingemar Johansson in their rematch is an absolutely vicious knock out.
If he had stayed at LHW or fought when Cruiserweight existed he’d be the GOAT of either division. Even if you don’t consider him an all time great HW, his accolades and overall accomplishments make him an all top 10 P4P fighter.
love this 🙌
@@solzzzz More boxing fans need to put some respect on Floyd Patterson’s name! Btw your shorts were sick bro.
A bad loss can affect a fighter's legacy. Frazier's legacy could have been affected by the Foreman annihilation but beating Ali in 71 and the thriller in manilla sealed his status. Floyd never really got the redemption he deserved after what Liston did to him.
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Unfortunate really, as I do believe he was cheated out of that redemption when he was arguably robbed in his title fight against Ellis. Could have been the first 3x heavyweight champ. But history seldom remembers close fights and robberies, just wins and losses.
Also should note that even past his prime & with a bad back he still made good fights with the same competition that Ali/Frazier were going up agenst.
Quarry
Chavalo
Jimmy Young
Oscar Bonavena
An while at light heavyweight he also fought good competition. I'm im remembering right Maxiam, Bivins, ect
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the peek-a-boo style has an extra degree of swagger to it. standing right in front of your opponent most of the time, in range of the end of their punches, and either, not getting hit or rolling back with the punch until its ineffective, is pretty high on the objective scale of bad assery.
It reminds me of what the thais used to consider as the perfect traditional muay thai style; perfect form and technique meant standing toe to toe with your opponent and conducting yourself in a way where your opponent couldnt move you back or shake your balance no matter what they threw at you, you should make him move.
to wit; a fight i can remember that is a good exemplar of this is Buakaw vs Nieky Holzken No.1.
people can look at it and say "there's not a lot of sophistication in standing in front of your opponent like a rock". they might appreciate the mastery of this style more if they tried to do the same while a man who cuts down trees with his leg tries to drive his foot through their torso.
Good luck on getting your videos back up
Great breakdown patterson never got credit for his skill or his heart. He fought liston a person every boxer was afraid of and was told not to fight him but he did whilst being doubted by everyone around him even knowing he'll lose he fought because he understood the sport and knew if liston won he deserves it. which cannot be said about fighters today cherry picking and avoiding we need more pattersons
The man never stopped he carried on fighting having close fights against younger men thats a champion.
i do think amir khan kind of resembles him,was good,dropped alot,yet also fought higher opponents and lose,but didn't matter for them.
Thanks David for uploading the new videos of Floyd Patterson doing the peekaboo boxing 🥊 stance and wonderful technique and your channel of the modern martial artist helps alot, greatest fight break downs RUclips content videos of all time and excellent work!!!
plus, as far as official boxing god channel goes, I hope there official boxing god channel gets deleted permanently for “cyberbully and harassment” for false report nonsense.
Another underrated and criminally unremembered Boxer. Hats off👊
Floyd Patterson's hand speed was like Sugar Ray Leonard's hand speed
As a HW so it's more impressive that srl
If not for his glass jaw, he would have been ranked among the best.
What an impressive movement for a heavyweight boxer and what a seamless style to mix up so different angles. Thanks for highlighting Patterson, he has rare attributes that we don't see often in history within the same pugilist
2 minutes in, and I must pause it already to say - yet another fantastic video.
PeekABoo, I see you!
Imagine him today fighting at LHW. Would be real interesting. At HW, he was a well above average hitter in terms of power. At LHW, he’d be a certified banger, and combined with that crazy speed - he’d be a LHW version of Tyson.
Definitely go with the knee bends because not only does it help with your back but helps generate more power when springing up with a punch
Even in this old film clip, it's clear Floyd Patterson had faster hands than Ali. Just being objective. Ali was fun also.
Who wants both Ali vs Patterson fights analysed by David? 🥊
I Do, I Do! 😊
YES!!! Ali vs Patterson 2 is one of my favorite fights ever! Tons to learn from both fighters in that match. A lot of people forget Floyd was actually winning on the judges scorecards before the stoppage.
patterson and tyson are definitely different. if mike tyson landed all the punches that patterson does not only would his opponent be unconscious but reduced to pink mist that drifts out of the arena.
Tbh tysons powers is pretty overrated. Everytime he would knock someone down they would get up, minus frazier, but floyd knocked out plenty of people bigger than him out cold
Excellent video about an excellent boxer. Quality channel!!!!!!!!
The Gentleman.
Thank you! I'm seeing Patterson in a whole new light! I think if he had stayed as a light-heavy he would have have had a long and even more of an elustrious career?
Great video bro, had to share it, thank you.
If Sonny Liston didn't exist, I'm not saying Patterson would've stopped Ali's rise but he would've put up a much better fight than Sonny against him imho
The similarities to Espada y Daga FMA techniques is astounding! Thank you so much
WOW so I know almost nothing about FMA and I looked up some demonstrations and you’re actually right!!! Footwork and creating angles for attack and defense actually gave some similarities!!! Plus it seems like knife and stick strikes are thrown in high volume combinations. Never would have guessed that! Floyd Patterson with a single staff and dagger is a scary thought.
Check out some videos of Pinoy great Luisito Espinoza and you'll see a bunch of crazy punches from crazy angles
Brilliant as always David.
Fighters with the Peekaboo boxing style are the most exciting to watch and are the most lethal boxers. They always breeze through their division, cutting through champions with primitive boxing styles like a hot knife through butter to become champions speedily. Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson are a testimony to this. Kudos to Cus D'Amato for this peekaboo style.
Best Floyd Patterson Video I have ever seen that finally gives him the credit he deserves, great job.
Could you do also make Videos about guys from the early 20th century like Jack Dempsey, Jess Willard, Jack Johnson etc.
Thank you for the reupload.
This is a great video (again), and at least the modification means I got to re-watch it. Super content.
Great Video as always.
I love this channel so much David. You've given me a real gift, a passion for boxing and boxing history. My son is 10 and we watch your videos together and the other day I caught him shadow boxing in the yard.
If only he was competing on light heavy wieght or cruiserwieght nowadays. Dude would have been a monster man...
Damn I love your channel! Your breakdowns are so good. Cus D’Amato taught the gazelle punch better than any trainer. Tyson used this technique a lot to open up his opponents also. And Roy Jones Jr. made a whole career KO’ing with this technique.
When Tyson fought like this putting fast yet powerful punches together he was unstoppable. It was so fun to watch. Him loading up off his first shot to really hurt them and if needed to finish them with the third.
Display on tenacity 🔥 (on the style and the re upload)
Floyd had an underrate resume too with good wins against Moore, Johannsson, Machen, two even fights against Quarry when he was well past his prime and Bonavena, Chuvalo, Cooper. What I never see him get credit for is staying competitive at the highest level of the division throughout his TWENTY YEAR CAREER. He never really slipped. He was competitive with the best contenders of the 70s despite his prime having been in the 50s. His last fight, iirc he was doing pretty well against Ali in his late 30s.
Great stuff.
Modified ole school boxing to be more aggressive with the change of Olympic style noxing becoming a standard changing the old school stance into a point and speed stance to captilize on the point system giving up more defensive responsibility for speed and aggression it was a prototype style cuz obviously perfected with mike
Got knocked down more than any other champion
But got up up more than any other champion
Awesome!
Looks like srr with some of those double ups
Am not an expert in boxing but It looked like Patterson is controlled the rhythm from the start. 😮
A great fighter with an impressive repertoire of skill.
It’s unfortunate though that him leaning too much in his boxing style caused some issues for him
Please breakdown more thai boxers you do an insane amount of depth every video ❤
I hope this channel stays. It’s been my favorite combat sports breakdown channel for about 5 years now.
You should break down Gervonta Davis vs Pitbull Cruz fight please
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God of boxing, peekaboo
I always knew David would eventually transition into chess boxing. ;-)
That sweet science!🔥🔥🔥
May I request a breakdown on François Pennachio? An elite Savate practionner that went toe to toe with Ramon Dekker : he is extremely technical so I figured it would be interesting to analyze in depht !
Friends don't let friends get their nose broken using peek-a-boo. Cus needed generational talent to get a belt on it. Even Torres, being his least known fighter, was a rare specimen of human anatomy. All of them get back problems and fade early because of the physical abilities you need to pull it off. Steal off Beristain fighters.
So? i don’t get the point of your comment.
@@poindextertunesMike was the only Cus fighter that would not have been better off using an easier style to execute. People watch this and try to fight peek-a-boo, and it is never worth it.
I agree for the most part. Like the video showed, Floyd was always at his best when he mixed in Peek a Boo head movement and footwork with a more conventional boxing style.
He could mix in the Peek a Boo footwork and head movement to set up angles or to get inside safely while using a more traditional bladed stance and still fighting behind his jab on the outside. His 2nd fight vs Johansson is a good example of that blend.
@@impulse_xsI just wish he would have been pushed more into a bladed stance heavy style to cover his chin. I also wish Cus would have not been so fixated on every fighter being a heavyweight. If he would have had Floyd fight at light heavy, where he belonged, he'd be a GOAT. Instead he gets coopted as a footnote in a bunch of people's histories. It's like what happened to Moorer, except Moorer did it to himself.
@@zwoope agreed he’s the most consistently underrated, overlooked, and disrespected fighter maybe ever. If you look at his career accomplishments he’s a top 10 P4P fighter imo. Sadly in his prime HW was the only real money division and Cruiserweight wouldn’t exist for another 20-30 years. He’d easily be the GOAT at LHW or Cruiserweight. He had a much more complete skill set and was a more versatile boxer than Tyson imo. His combo of skills, size, and speed would be deadly against smaller guys. A guy his size would be a big tall LHW even by today’s standards. He could’ve definitely adjusted his style to lighter divisions and utilized his physical gifts more.
Thank you for the great breakdowns of these amazing fighters. Could you please indicate which boxer is which when you quickly go from one clip to the next? Maybe with an arrow pointing to the boxer being mentioned? Especially in the black and white footage, I don’t know who I am looking at thru the 5 second clips. Thanks!
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Love the content and all the knowledgeable comments. My question is in reference to your comment about Holyfield/ Foreman. Are you saying that Holyfield used elements of the peak a boo style in his fight with Foreman?
I practice the peekaboo style not because i hope to be a boxing champ, but because its a great whole body workout and it looks cool.
the DIVERGENT FIST: OF ONE PUNCH, MAKE TWO IMPACTS
Cus is the best trainer that ever lived and probably ever will be.
It's Emmanuel for me
@@RealJRoyall
Both were great.
Most overrated trainer for the most overrated fighters
Wow holy hell he was fast.
Floyd or Mick🕵️
Could you do a break down of Ingemar Johansson? I'm swedish and he is our only world champion so it would be cool to see 😊
I hit the double end bag like Patterson with 5 to 6 fast hard hit combos shifts plus foot work for 30min the next day my back does hurt
Contortion angles look good but don't feel good
This video is almost exactly as good as it was the first time, with the exception of that missing 5 seconds of footage at about 1:25
you forgot to mention floyd would go down 20 times a fight and still get up and win never seen someone get knocked down that much and win he was a great but weird fighter
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PeekaBoo!
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Peekaboo!
Fastest hands of any HW champ
Pls make one on Cleveland Williams
Btw pls tell me if you saw this coment and if you like the idea so i can ecpect something
I wonder if Cus took into account Floyd’s back problems and trained Tyson to bend at the knees instead of the waist?
Did u watch Curmel vs Cuba?
That peek a boo style dnt last long. You look at anyone that used it and they pretty much was done by the age of 30
It looks really hard on the low back and knees
Unless you’re short 😂and built enough then it’s easy to keep up even when your older. Most movement is from the upper body not legs so the stress is lighter than Roy jones jr style for example. Jumping around like that at older age must be more taxing on the body than staying low
@@sunnyc5395 you mean roid Jones jr? Why do you guys keep people that was busted for peds in your mouth?
Requires insane cardio to last more than 3-4 rounds too. Floyd had maybe the best gas tank of any HW champ. Mike relied on early finishes to avoid that issue and it worked until it didn’t. Not surprising that they’re the two youngest HW champs in history.
@@impulse_xs why is youngest heavyweights always mentioned as if heavyweight is the only weight class that has adults? I like to mention the youngest champion and the oldest champion no matter what weight class and Mike the hype job Tyson isn't one
Tyson and Patterson had faster hands vs Ali due to the shorter distance and Ali having speed at a distance. Different styles. Tyson would be slightly faster than Floyd and had tremendous speed going in, but its hard to judge as both were tremendously fast
Hagler also copied Patterson, long-reaching power punch combos
(One of) the first(s).
(Haven't watched the video yet).
Yeah you go over like 3 words in the thumbnail copy and no one reads it. So couldn't make "heavyweight" fit lol
@@TheModernMartialArtist I meant, I'm one of the firsts (in the comments).
I remember my cat using one paw till her enemy runs.
Floyd reminds me of Joe Calzaghe to watch rather than Mike Tyson, I know the peek-a-boo style links Floyd and Mike, but they look very different in the way they use it.
Dammmm
“Babe wake up, modern martial artist just dropped a vid”
*Sex Doll stays asleep* 😢
I still don't get the idea of a wider stance delivering more power. I deliver more power with better balance in a tighter stance. Even in the cases showed, I see it being used more to extend the reach of the user, often to get the opponent by surprise with the sudden change of reach from someone who's body didn't get closer
Patterson likes to lung
I guess the idea is the a wider stance allows you to bend at the knees more so you can sit down on into your power punches more? But like you said, it looks more like it’s being used to cover distance here.
Patterson looks more like a cruiserweight or Junior heavyweight. His speed in this video contradicts Ali being the fastest. And, Tyson equally fast and his teenage years up to heavyweight champ.
Azhuma Nelson?
Patterson had a glass jaw even though he was a great boxer with a devastating left hook.
Why people keep talking about cus when he only had 3 world champions? Steward and Roach had more champions
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yeah im reporting the channel Official Boxing Gods, Inc. for this foolery.
It’s a shame the channels have to fight each other. Don’t they know you are on the same team?
Why did he get his ass beat? Can we blame his losses on his bad back?
Sonny Liston was basically his worst nightmare matchup wise. Sonny was 6’1” 220lb with an 84” reach and prob the hardest jab in history. Poor Floyd was a 6’ 190lb “heavyweight” with a 72” reach who moved his head a lot and threw long combos on the inside. Just a bad matchup. By the time he was in his early 30s his style had taken a bad toll on his back.
He’s got 8 career losses.
- 4 of those were controversial decisions that REALLY shouldn’t exist. One is a very questionable split with Joey Maxim at LHW
- His loss and draw with Jerry Quarry, plus his loss to Jimmy Ellis are three of the worst decisions in the sport’s history.
- His other 4 losses are 2 KOs by Liston and 2 losses to Ali the HW GOAT. His rematch with Ali was at age 37 and he was winning on the judges scorecards until the referee stopped the fight due to an eye injury.
If he was never robbed by the judges against Quarrey he would’ve been the first 3x HW champ.
Sonny Liston obliterated this poor guy
Yall couldn’t beat em🤷🏾♂️
No shame in a much smaller guy losing to one of the best and hardest hitting champs in history. The fact that he refused to stay down is insane. Liston could’ve killed most people with a beating like that.
Hi
Why no april fools video?? 😢
Imagine fighting for 5 seconds of clout. People are petty.
Why would you make a bait thumbnail as if Patterson and Tyson ever fought?
I think it’s more to do with the fact that Floyd and Tyson are similar fighters from the same trainer/gym and have fairly similar styles.
official cowards of boxing?
Who?
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