I Spent a Week in Blox Fruit....

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024
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  • @EclipseGameplays
    @EclipseGameplays  Год назад +6702

    Defeat 8 Snowmans

  • @linkypauwz
    @linkypauwz Год назад +1305

    The worst part about this, is that many people are saying "use scripts to grind", like if you gotta use a script to get to the "fun" part of a game, that's a problem

    • @Nerdvpnpro
      @Nerdvpnpro Год назад +26

      Fr, and buying accounts too

    • @harebot1232
      @harebot1232 Год назад +85

      They're litterally saying "Oh yeah dude just use exploits."

    • @classikcw
      @classikcw 11 месяцев назад +4

      if u dont like the game dont play it 💀💀

    • @CaliforniaHater
      @CaliforniaHater 10 месяцев назад +134

      ​@@classikcwyeah because the good fucking part of the game gets overshadowed by the grind which is as good as a fucking cancer diagnosis

    • @classikcw
      @classikcw 10 месяцев назад

      @@CaliforniaHater too bad

  • @meatballmustard7658
    @meatballmustard7658 Год назад +1403

    The 2 comments in this comment section
    1. "idc man you just suck blox fruits is peak"
    2. "yea im max level and I regret my life choices"

    • @blackbootylicker
      @blackbootylicker Год назад +18

      couldnt have said any better

    • @bobbywalls1239
      @bobbywalls1239 Год назад

      second sea is ass @carrysource5101

    • @bobbywalls1239
      @bobbywalls1239 Год назад

      idk why people say that@carrysource5101

    • @somebody6282
      @somebody6282 10 месяцев назад +89

      I classify into the second
      (Since I am an idiot, I decided to grind blox fruit to see how bad it is, I got max level, cursed dual katana, GodHuman, soul guitar, dragon 3 times, leopard 2 times, and more.)
      Also...for the things people say are fun, THEY ARE NOT FUN. PvP is either use trash fruit get 1 shot OR use good fruit get called a spammer, the "puzzles and riddles" consist of googling and watching yt vids, WHO would unlock race v4 without a guide? (I say this with cyborg v4 maxed and human v4 base) the raids are so boring that everyone pays each other with fruits so that they get carried, what the heck? The sea raids are awful, seabeasts take forever to spawn, mirage only spawns when it would screw you over to see it spawn, kitsune island? There's always a terrorshark that spawns right before a kitsune island, on the off chance you get a kitsune island, you probably get useless rewards, leviathan is just PAIN. I won't waste my time ranting about blox fruit, THE GRIND WASTED ENOUGH TIME. I even had to buy a gamepass, the game pass was bought with THE ONLY ROBUX I HAVE EVER PURCHASED. I HAVE NOT AND DON'T CURRENTLY PLAN ON GETTING MORE. Man the gamepass screwed me over and I screwed myself over, WHY DID I BUY IT???

    • @_Void_Watcher_
      @_Void_Watcher_ 10 месяцев назад +9

      I regret being max level Lol

  • @theeagle7552
    @theeagle7552 8 месяцев назад +228

    I loved the part when Eclipse said “it’s bloxin fruit time!” And proceeded to defeat 8 snowmans

  • @kaitotties
    @kaitotties 8 месяцев назад +146

    I mess around in studio in my spare time and I've noticed a lot of things. that messed up animation, with the monkey smashing its arms, is due to the animation creator neglecting to select that limb while creating the animation, a very amateurish mistake. the circle that appears on reset (example: 31:00) is a very odd shape because that's what happens when you declare a SpecialMesh, convert it into a sphere, and set the dimensions to 1-1-1. (the proper circle dimensions are 3-10-6). there's much more that I neglected to mention since I'm using this as background audio, but every time I alt tab, I see something else wrong. truly speaking of the level of care this game has

    • @mien1216
      @mien1216 8 месяцев назад +14

      those errors are just in the 1st sea because the devs basically never update early stuff and they are stuck with the stuff added when the game released

    • @personguyIII
      @personguyIII 8 месяцев назад +1

      i thought it was just a sphere part with the forcefeild texture stretched up alot because everyone in this game is like 9 studs tall (a normal r6 roblox character is around 5.6 studs tall) it would be slightly more excusable if it wasnt their first time making games but im pretty sure they made elemental battle grounds (explains the p2w in that game) and a couple others those have complex animations and they STILL made these mistakes which is pretty funny

    • @pendragon.-.
      @pendragon.-. 7 месяцев назад +11

      All these errors are really strange since they already have created a game before blox fruits called elemental battlegrounds and the game is awesome.

    • @sirframes
      @sirframes 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@mien1216 that is like, building a really nice mansion interior, but the outside is pure garbage so almost no one wants to enter to check it out. To think this game could have even more players if they TRIED, that's scary.

    • @hugode834
      @hugode834 27 дней назад

      to be fair, that's from years ago, when you get to the higher seas and see the visual effects on fruits and everything it'd be hard to say that they have no care for this game, especially when they've been reworking and fixing things for a long time now, like old fruits and swords and effects

  • @SleepyCatPing
    @SleepyCatPing Год назад +994

    Eclipse playing blox fruits is like luke joining the dark side

    • @CuntDku
      @CuntDku Год назад +62

      this was truly, a blox fruit 💯💯

    • @seanguo110
      @seanguo110 Год назад +17

      @@CuntDku 😱

    • @infdragon4229
      @infdragon4229 Год назад +9

      Following the bad Roblox anime RUclipsrs is as bad as joining the dark side but if he wants to be a sith lord he needs to play astd aka (the worst anime game ever)

    • @ashergad144
      @ashergad144 Год назад +4

      Although I would enjoy it, we’re truly in the dark ages if eclipse goes back to yba in its current state

    • @valentinnoguera5589
      @valentinnoguera5589 Год назад +1

      Well at one point of the video Eclipse literally turns the screen black while playing, how ironic

  • @Exorbulla
    @Exorbulla 9 месяцев назад +564

    The reason it gets "better" the longer you play the game is because eventually you will get progress that you become attached to, and if you leave the game forever you will feel like all your efforts went to waste.
    However the problem is, that isnt called fun, its called an addiction

    • @jaguarndr
      @jaguarndr 9 месяцев назад +152

      It's called "sunk cost fallacy" actually, and every blox fruits player definetely suffers from it

    • @truedarklight
      @truedarklight 9 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@jaguarndr i suffer from this because im a tds player

    • @rusked
      @rusked 9 месяцев назад +25

      i suffer from autism

    • @chezzburger886
      @chezzburger886 8 месяцев назад +15

      This game is Autism

    • @critbucket
      @critbucket 8 месяцев назад

      @@chezzburger886.

  • @gaminggamer7103
    @gaminggamer7103 Год назад +996

    People saying “Oh it gets good on the third sea I promise” makes sense when you realize One Piece fans also say “It gets good at episode 200 I promise”

    • @burningfurnacebutevenwette6281
      @burningfurnacebutevenwette6281 Год назад +98

      Dude arlong park is episode 31

    • @babbish78
      @babbish78 Год назад +57

      As a one piece fan, it is sadly true. It DOES get good at episode 200, even it took me a lot of retries to get into the series but it failed for me. Would I say to watch to episode 200? No. It's painful. If you are already at episode 200, would I say to continue watching it? Yes. Its good.

    • @chrysome4540
      @chrysome4540 Год назад +87

      @@babbish78 that's just your opinion really, most people from what i've heard started enjoying it between episode 1-45 but even then you could always just read the manga if you think the anime is too poorly paced

    • @babbish78
      @babbish78 Год назад +7

      @@chrysome4540 Yeah. I agree, the filler does kill a lot of anime watchers. Reading the manga would be better.

    • @somebody6282
      @somebody6282 10 месяцев назад +27

      But blox fruits players are wrong
      (Since I am an idiot, I decided to grind blox fruit to see how bad it is, I got max level, cursed dual katana, GodHuman, soul guitar, dragon 3 times, leopard 2 times, and more.)
      Also...for the things people say are fun, THEY ARE NOT FUN. PvP is either use trash fruit get 1 shot OR use good fruit get called a spammer, the "puzzles and riddles" consist of googling and watching yt vids, WHO would unlock race v4 without a guide? (I say this with cyborg v4 maxed and human v4 base) the raids are so boring that everyone pays each other with fruits so that they get carried, what the heck? The sea raids are awful, seabeasts take forever to spawn, mirage only spawns when it would screw you over to see it spawn, kitsune island? There's always a terrorshark that spawns right before a kitsune island, on the off chance you get a kitsune island, you probably get useless rewards, leviathan is just PAIN. I won't waste my time ranting about blox fruit, THE GRIND WASTED ENOUGH TIME. While the one piece watchers (why am I saying that as if I haven't watched it) absolutely do have a point

  • @Oxijinn_
    @Oxijinn_ Год назад +1211

    As someone who recently began watching Eclipse on stream, the duality between enjoying Battlefield...sometimes. and then the next day playing blox fruits against his sanity, is very funny.

    • @averageinternettroll
      @averageinternettroll Год назад +10

      Kinda hope he does this again ngl

    • @K0h.i
      @K0h.i Год назад +42

      @@averageinternettroll no

    • @dumbnerd7707
      @dumbnerd7707 Год назад +4

      ​@@averageinternettroll he probably won't lol

    • @kazuto542
      @kazuto542 Год назад +14

      @@averageinternettroll no, i’ll lose my sanity seeing him play that garbage bandit beater again.

    • @friendlyneighborhoodmemer18
      @friendlyneighborhoodmemer18 Год назад +1

      @@kazuto542 stop hating around dude

  • @Specteon
    @Specteon Год назад +185

    24:18 to anyone curious, adding a transparent wedge and scaling it to match the stairs can fix this issue and it's really easy to do as well.

    • @somebody6282
      @somebody6282 10 месяцев назад +16

      Show roblox wedges some appreciation man!!! They are so good when implemented well into obbies (JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH JTOH AND JTOH. TOH SUCKS JTOH BETTER)

    • @ellamartintsova5615
      @ellamartintsova5615 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@somebody6282im also a jtoh fan

    • @somebody6282
      @somebody6282 8 месяцев назад

      @@ellamartintsova5615 yay

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 6 месяцев назад

      🗿

    • @todrickfr
      @todrickfr 5 месяцев назад

      @@somebody6282 toh isnt even a bad game but comparing it to jtoh i see why it looks bad

  • @itzfox28
    @itzfox28 Год назад +197

    The hardest challenge eclipse has ever done: play with his viewers in a calm and collected manner

    • @nolast2585
      @nolast2585 Год назад +8

      im so glad that the large country house was calm and collected, if it was angry i dont know what i would do

    • @sharky4029
      @sharky4029 Год назад +1

      @no last
      I was surprised by the large country house being so calm even after seeing the waste of budget on the fishman boss... like 2 moves? Can you believe it? And another phase!

    • @greensharktwod
      @greensharktwod Год назад +3

      Manner*

  • @idk-dw8dm
    @idk-dw8dm Год назад +318

    I hit level 1000 on this game because my friend kept telling me it got better and it was the biggest waste of time EVER. All the game is now is just take boss quest, kill boss, server hop, repeat.

    • @_Tipic
      @_Tipic Год назад +32

      and when your done its just, terrorize as many people as you can sim

    • @Kilb-o3u
      @Kilb-o3u Год назад +26

      It gets better at level 1100, trust

    • @-cold-1761
      @-cold-1761 Год назад +25

      And it’s not like the boss is fun or anything, most of them just have 3 moves, and require zero skill to beat.

    • @idk-dw8dm
      @idk-dw8dm Год назад +12

      @@-cold-1761 and the game gives them way to much health

    • @Nonagonorganic
      @Nonagonorganic Год назад

      Sorry for your loss 🙏🏾

  • @CapybaraEnjoyer713
    @CapybaraEnjoyer713 Год назад +650

    I can’t believe that Eclipse decided to sacrifice his mental health playing Blox Fruit
    Edit: Here's why I think Blox Fruit is bad.
    The game is extremely repetitive. You just go to island, get quest, beat up npc, level up. You just endlessly do that until you're max level. There are a few things that you do that deviate from this but in the end the game is just an infinite grind where you gain nothing in the end except hours of your life lost. The npcs and bosses are all the same. Most if not all npcs just walk you and punch you. The bosses are essentially the same except they have more hp and have some extra moves.
    The fruit grind is even worse. The main way you get better fruits is from talking to a guy every 2 hours or whatever it is and pray it is a good fruit. The only other way is if you trade your fruits or just buy them with gamepasses. To trade for good fruits you have to have good fruits and the only way to get them is from the random fruit dealer. You could also pray that the fruit you are looking for will be in shop and buy it with in-game money but that's about the only way.
    The pvp is the game is essentially first one to hit them wins by getting one shot if you're bullying lower level people, or get someone in a combo that is impossible to escape. Also if you aren't max level you don't even stand a chance in the end. Now I can't really say too much about this since when I did play I wasn't max level in 3rd sea I couldn't pvp but from what other people are saying, it doesn't seem fun.
    As I mentioned, I played till I realized I was wasting my life in the 3rd sea and quit. I already had a fully awakened mochi and after that I just had to get max level. I then lost all motivation since I realized I was wasting my time getting to max level. The only thing that got me to play for that long was that my friends were playing too, but after they also got there good fruits they also lost motivation to play as well. All of what I said before was out of experience except the PVP part.
    Blox Fruit is a game. There is content, but extremely repetitive content with no reward in the end. If you enjoy the grind and enjoy the game, good for you. Nothing wrong with that. I enjoyed my time playing until I didn't. I'm just voicing my complaints about the game.
    Also if you think, imagine spending your time typing all of that, 1 not even a lot just a few paragraphs even a 5th grader could do, 2 in the end its just Blox Fruit why so mad

    • @SaintGrace
      @SaintGrace Год назад +6

      ur goofy

    • @aperson.783
      @aperson.783 Год назад

      @@SaintGrace goofy can't even spell, also you hella goofy for actually liking blox fruits

    • @loomer3583
      @loomer3583 Год назад +7

      weeb💀

    • @TheBlackSilence-LOR
      @TheBlackSilence-LOR Год назад +16

      I mean, All type of long farming game will make his meantal health drop like a Spike, Praying he gets a bit of relax on a spa.

    • @TheDarkendemion
      @TheDarkendemion Год назад +75

      @@SaintGrace the smartest Blox Fruits player:

  • @siiashr
    @siiashr Год назад +424

    this game is quite literally the embodiment of the endless grind

    • @Virtahep0
      @Virtahep0 Год назад +27

      Runescape

    • @JalterIsSoFuckingHot
      @JalterIsSoFuckingHot Год назад +7

      @@Virtahep0 WoW

    • @ivborvkg1890
      @ivborvkg1890 Год назад +27

      after lvl 2400 this game is beautiful

    • @laval0910
      @laval0910 Год назад +11

      Grand piece online is worse

    • @user-xs7ow9ov5d
      @user-xs7ow9ov5d Год назад +129

      @@ivborvkg1890 so you need max level to have fun? Good game ladies and gentleman

  • @DripBox07
    @DripBox07 Год назад +345

    8 year old Blox fruit "players" watching eclipse brutally tear their "game" apart: 😭😭😭

    • @thebfbs8746
      @thebfbs8746 Год назад +18

      I play the game and agree that it is really grindy and the pvp is basically just one shot combos but I do get some enjoyment from the game because I play it with friends and using the different abilities and styles is fun when using them in general. I also only get to max level and play the new update content before not playing it for a while.

    • @november6144
      @november6144 Год назад +2

      There’s no other good one piece games tbh

    • @ee-qs8gf
      @ee-qs8gf Год назад +58

      @@november6144 nonono, there are no good one piece games period

    • @galacticaim9545
      @galacticaim9545 Год назад +14

      @@ee-qs8gf same with jojo

    • @Ssjvaca
      @Ssjvaca Год назад +7

      @@thebfbs8746 anything is fun if you do it with friends, try playing it solo, you'll see how awful it is.

  • @elipeterson5968
    @elipeterson5968 Год назад +185

    Arcane Odyssey feels more like a one piece game than this ngl

    • @whatisthis7958
      @whatisthis7958 Год назад +5

      true

    • @noobnoob8583
      @noobnoob8583 Год назад +6

      Fact

    • @BobbinRobbin777
      @BobbinRobbin777 Год назад +6

      yeah that game goated af
      and i don't even read one peice! (i should tho)

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@BobbinRobbin777 thats not a one piece game

    • @BobbinRobbin777
      @BobbinRobbin777 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@sc-1918 Why you replying to _me?_

  • @GjeladinJaha
    @GjeladinJaha Год назад +758

    I loved these streams, not because of the blox fruut gameplay but eclipse constantly shitting on the game was hilarious. Especially trying to help eclipse get the vision/ultra instinct was SO FUCKING FUNNY.

    • @EclipseGameplays
      @EclipseGameplays  Год назад +343

      Go left! No, your other left!

    • @nolast2585
      @nolast2585 Год назад +15

      @@EclipseGameplays d

    • @GjeladinJaha
      @GjeladinJaha Год назад +42

      @@EclipseGameplays What do you mean?? Its right there behind you dingus!!!!!

    • @ananaskarandash1060
      @ananaskarandash1060 Год назад +6

      Its funny how eclipse reply got more likes than the actual comment

    • @IDK_Won
      @IDK_Won Год назад +3

      @@nolast2585 i

  • @dragovsartcorner8618
    @dragovsartcorner8618 Год назад +1057

    As someone who got a rare fruit here and also got to the around level ~400 range. I can confirm that this game is an extremely solid 1/10. The ai exists, the combat is a thing and the quests can be completed. Truly a one piece game

    • @ixinfamous1412
      @ixinfamous1412 Год назад +78

      truly an accurate description

    • @relaxasaurus.
      @relaxasaurus. Год назад +7

      What games would you recommend to play?

    • @boptodatop
      @boptodatop Год назад +42

      @@dragovsartcorner8618 DUH-DUDUDU-DUDUDUDUDU-DEEPWOKEN

    • @zyphlix4189
      @zyphlix4189 Год назад +7

      Hands down best blox fruits review ever

    • @jeffboy4231
      @jeffboy4231 Год назад +32

      @@boptodatop eh. It got some problems imo. Firstly obviously the paywall, then the perma death (which is imo 100% justified if you don't like it) and the game just literally telling you 0 about anything. Other than that yeah it's pretty damn good.

  • @ETProducts
    @ETProducts Год назад +415

    I am so sorry for all of the suffering you had to go through in this week of horror.

    • @CuntDku
      @CuntDku Год назад +13

      This was truly, a blox fruit 💯💯

    • @LegendOfSaif_05
      @LegendOfSaif_05 Год назад +1

      so how am i enjoying blox fruit that much !!????

    • @ThatObjectionGuy
      @ThatObjectionGuy Год назад

      @@LegendOfSaif_05 no life

    • @infdragon4229
      @infdragon4229 Год назад +1

      @@LegendOfSaif_05 cuz you have no life or have never played an actual game.

    • @LegendOfSaif_05
      @LegendOfSaif_05 Год назад

      @@infdragon4229 i do have a life but i'm still enjoying blox fruit so much currently, also you're kinda right about not playing an actual game like gow or gta 5 recently

  • @Gamer-qr8ee
    @Gamer-qr8ee Год назад +107

    Im pretty sure that eclipse was the furthest away from the main islands than anyone else ever

  • @norne9382
    @norne9382 Год назад +89

    Rest in peace, Eclipse, he had to endure block fruits.

  • @toast4money
    @toast4money Год назад +361

    The pain that eclipse had to go threw of playing and editing the video is beyond any pain hes felt before
    Edit:its staying as threw

    • @Inferdesu
      @Inferdesu Год назад +3

      It’s not painful because money

    • @subbygecko7696
      @subbygecko7696 Год назад +6

      Through

    • @22ob4zod9
      @22ob4zod9 Год назад +3

      Deepwoken is better even if it hurts your braincells

    • @Jason-rw9ez
      @Jason-rw9ez Год назад

      "threw" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @MasterYoshiOfficial
      @MasterYoshiOfficial Год назад

      "threw" is correct

  • @Pythonitics
    @Pythonitics Год назад +167

    grinding blox fruits is like watching the entirety of the video "watching paint dry for 10 hours"

    • @uselessweeb1090
      @uselessweeb1090 Год назад +2

      As a max level player, I agree 😭

    • @Vishiahma
      @Vishiahma Год назад

      point crow?

    • @Ssjvaca
      @Ssjvaca Год назад +8

      PointCrow's video of watching paint dry was actually interesting, this is worse.

    • @skeleton2863
      @skeleton2863 Год назад

      Yes now do the grinding with no afk

    • @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Год назад +2

      i kinda enjoyed it i did the level progressing with awakened mera while listening to jojo themes

  • @SinPieceOnline
    @SinPieceOnline Год назад +521

    As someone who has unfortunely grinded blox fruits, The only times I actually had fun were when I got a rare fruit (for like 2 hours), When I fully awakened a fruit (for like a hour), and when I got to 3rd sea. 3rd sea was WAY more enjoyable then 2nd and 1st. But, 3rd sea is a insane grind too, not just because level but also because of what you have to do to spawn bosses and also get weapons. RACE V4 is probably the most annoying thing to do in the whole game if you dont have friends. Over all, Blox fruits is a shit cashgrab that somehow succeed'd and got WAY more players then it should have.

    • @ban_k3r291
      @ban_k3r291 Год назад +33

      so true . It prolly succeded maybe cuz of hype? idk prolly the players love to look edgy or "cool" to new players.

    • @deivanna
      @deivanna Год назад +18

      js script lmao

    • @highrankdevil
      @highrankdevil Год назад +13

      Atp i barely play blox fruits i just watch the youtubers

    • @BWPNC
      @BWPNC Год назад +27

      With you on this. Its like after they hit success n they stopped listening to the audience, they don't reply to comments or take in any feed back. Their anti cheat system is so weak you would think that they wanted scripters to be as active as possible cause they manage to get all the way to max level.

    • @mesozoicstudios6061
      @mesozoicstudios6061 Год назад +1

      @@BWPNC aint they revamping the game?

  • @hvzor3715
    @hvzor3715 Год назад +153

    I feel bad for all of the painful suffering Eclipse must've gone through making this video.

    • @GiNgertheman
      @GiNgertheman Год назад +1

      the game is fun tho

    • @aethanleohernandez575
      @aethanleohernandez575 Год назад +16

      @@GiNgertheman after you grind 2000+ levels you still need to awaken fruits, get good rng, grind more for mastery, grind 400 on all fighting styles, and thats not even mentioning dough v2. Yeah no i dont see the fun in that.

    • @SkillHunterThousandManPlan
      @SkillHunterThousandManPlan Год назад +16

      @@GiNgertheman Its fine that you see it as fun, But the game is objectively farming **YOU** for playtime which is not fun for the majority of people out there.

    • @Rob3rtBTW
      @Rob3rtBTW Год назад

      @@GiNgertheman What does that have to do with the quality and game design?

    • @GiNgertheman
      @GiNgertheman Год назад

      @@SkillHunterThousandManPlan that's why hacks exist

  • @nintendoe3173
    @nintendoe3173 Год назад +74

    I loved it when Mr. Blox said "It's fruitin' time!" Then proceeded to monetize every part of his game

    • @GuideTerrarian
      @GuideTerrarian Год назад +11

      I loved the part where eclipse said "It's eclipsin' time!" then proceeded to suffer for eternity

    • @saraajsandhu3384
      @saraajsandhu3384 Год назад +3

      I loved it when The Guide said "It's The Guidin' Time!" and proceeded to get lost.

  • @iamsiley
    @iamsiley Год назад +66

    The game's not good, but it can be made better assuming the developers aren't using their immense amounts of money to do absolutely freaking nothing like they are right now. Y'know, make the game *significantly* less grindy, make the combat like genuinely decent and unique-feeling, add interactive dialogue and interesting mechanics...
    I don't think this game is beyond saving, I just think it's on the brink.

    • @Random_dude_from_20_years_ago
      @Random_dude_from_20_years_ago Год назад +5

      "Nothing" the new update is all about fixing this problem and I already know you haven't even played blox fruit to max level you know next to nothing about the game they have been fixing the grindy part of the game for a while they just haven't touched on the first sea you have to see blox fruit as 3 games the first sea shouldn't be the main priority like if you made 3 games one not so good one not bad and one good game which one are you going to focus on

    • @iamsiley
      @iamsiley Год назад +27

      @@Random_dude_from_20_years_ago
      1. Jesus christ, use any amount of punctuation in a full paragraph, that was torture to read.
      2. I'm really wishing this could've been in the Blox Fruits DDOS
      3. The thing is, it's not 3 games. It's 1. You should focus on the full thing, not just the parts you have to spend 20 hours doing nothing to achieve. Plus, why should I have to spend 20 hours to achieve that? Think. Please.

    • @Random_dude_from_20_years_ago
      @Random_dude_from_20_years_ago Год назад

      @@iamsiley sir this is RUclips you can just read it's not that hard.
      The devs takes around 6 months for an update for the third sea if they had to update every sea it's going to take them a year and a half.
      20 hours seems dumb it's completely unrealistic just from this I can tell you only watched the video and you didn't play the game.
      The next time you try to comment on something please research even a bit I do admit the first sea needs a complete revamp but on the other hand the second sea has way too much content that it becomes a problem. It's not just all grinding raids are a thing v2 and v4 are also a thing there's at least 12 different fruits you can awaken which alone already add lots of content.

    • @iamsiley
      @iamsiley Год назад +15

      @@Random_dude_from_20_years_ago I was originally going to type 10 hours, but that seemed far too generous. Even 20 is kind of generous. I've spent more than 10 hours on the game, and I'm only level 400. Slightly over the half-way mark. And it's not like I'm being slower than most either, I'm going at a practically completely regular pace. Also are you kidding me with "Oh, it's not all grinding, there's raids, which is just another way of grinding that's really not much different, with the only difference being that it's multiplayer so you might get less exp." Also 12 fruits you can awaken is not a lot of content. It's 24 movesets containing 4 moves. That's all. Is that really all of the content in the game? If that's it, you can barely even call it game. More like a showcase of special effects. And I couldn't really tell if you were using this as a point, but you said, "I do admit the first sea needs a complete revamp but on the other hand the second sea has way too much content that it becomes a problem." Which to me makes zero sense if you were using it as a point because I shouldn't have to wait 20 hours to get any content.
      P.S. Thanks for using punctuation this time.

    • @LeftCaptain
      @LeftCaptain Год назад +1

      ​@@iamsileybro, you either like the game or not, what's the problem

  • @dawnh
    @dawnh 4 месяца назад +22

    the scariest part is that the playerbase is brainwashed into thinking that it takes "a long time" to make a poorly made one piece ability, that the devs are "working hard" 😭

    • @stapledpopcorn
      @stapledpopcorn 4 месяца назад +7

      GUYS OH MY GOD WE GOT 1 NEW ABILITY AFTER 4 MONTHS HOLY SHIT OUR DEVS LOVE THE GAME

    • @personguyIII
      @personguyIII 4 месяца назад +7

      GUYS WE GOT A NEW FRUIT WITH FOUR MOVES AND 18 NEW ONE SHOT COMBOS THE GAME IS SO GOOD GUYS

    • @NoobTheNewt0987
      @NoobTheNewt0987 3 месяца назад

      It does take a long time and hard work to produce shit. But if you make a bad product, at the end of the day, it’s still a bad product, and the “hard work” and “long time to make” excuses fall flat
      All these clowns with their shitty argument of “oh this took lots of effort so you should be grateful and not criticise it” are the reasons why we get trash like Concord

    • @cybanix6905
      @cybanix6905 2 месяца назад

      NO WAY CHAT WE WAITED 10 MONTHS FOR A NEW FIGHTING STYLE, RANDOM BORING SEA EVENTS AND AN UNBALANCED OP NEW FRUIT AND ARE NOW WAITING ANOTHER 9 MONTHS FOR 1 REWORK OF A FRUIT AND 1 ISLAND REWORK (we were promised full rework of all 3 seas a year ago in upd 20 but now they are only doing ONE island 💀) !!! THIS GAME IS SO GOOD CHAT

    • @Mahiii778
      @Mahiii778 Месяц назад

      ​@@cybanix6905 brainwashed people will get excited over small things

  • @noahabella
    @noahabella Год назад +135

    These past 3 months have proved that Eclipse didn’t just grow because of YBA, it was the other way around. Seriously though Eclipse is a legend, everyone subscribe, like actually. He deserves it.

  • @efcmike6319
    @efcmike6319 Год назад +14

    To be honest I think there is a 90% chance that the reason this game has 550k players is because all of the kids see 1 minute of max lvl game play and think it’s the coolest thing ever and spend the next 2 weeks getting max level just to quit after getting max level. CANT WAIT FOR PART 2!!!!!!

  • @spectation404
    @spectation404 Год назад +57

    Blox fruits is actually just like the anime, it gets good after lvl 1400

    • @epicjayjaysw8708
      @epicjayjaysw8708 Год назад +4

      I didn't know they were *that* canon

    • @negacatn254
      @negacatn254 Год назад +3

      Its canon omg

    • @velboi3823
      @velboi3823 Год назад +3

      You did not watch One Piece and I am deeply saddened by the fact that Eclipse hearted your comment

    • @spectation404
      @spectation404 Год назад +6

      @@velboi3823 I am too, deeply saddened 😭😭

    • @dawnh
      @dawnh 4 месяца назад +6

      @@velboi3823 brother its a long running joke even we one piece fans take part in 😭

  • @NorthKoreanLover89484
    @NorthKoreanLover89484 Год назад +270

    I'd give blox fruit a 3/10 as it magnetizes all of the brainless 9 year olds into one game so they don't infest the good games.

    • @pn7600
      @pn7600 Год назад +9

      thats tru

    • @nrreno
      @nrreno Год назад +2

      you say that yet you have a blox fruits pfp? 😂😂😂

    • @NorthKoreanLover89484
      @NorthKoreanLover89484 Год назад +64

      @@nrreno woah woah buddy, this is my cat named Thomas back up

    • @serily4524
      @serily4524 Год назад +7

      deeptrashken

    • @NorthKoreanLover89484
      @NorthKoreanLover89484 Год назад +48

      @@serily4524 blud is a perma freshie

  • @AsvaldoAbidaDergin
    @AsvaldoAbidaDergin Год назад +63

    im listening to eclipse do a long explanation of him trying to reach the end of the map and im just sitting here knowing that he is running into an invisible wall for like half of the footage

  • @theboidlive6428
    @theboidlive6428 Год назад +18

    never expected eclipse to play blox fruits, he’s lost it

  • @n_kas5812
    @n_kas5812 Год назад +505

    i am so thankful to you eclipse for telling me what i needed to hear at this critical point in my life,
    i see 2 days i started grinding this game for no monetary gain, but only timely loss and i didnt even notice it a problem
    i no longer play it, thank you

    • @the-hero-of-twilight
      @the-hero-of-twilight Год назад +35

      L get gud

    • @midnight-envy
      @midnight-envy Год назад +29

      That’s all games in general and the first sea is always the hardest

    • @justatv9554
      @justatv9554 Год назад +30

      these replies be coping

    • @dewmdoomie1730
      @dewmdoomie1730 Год назад +79

      @@midnight-envy The difference in Blox Fruits is the enemy ai having the intelligence of a jellyfish suffering from lead poisoning, having to grind for hours on killing the same enemy reskins while in souls games it takes not only skill to grind but you could even progress to other areas if you're good enough and despite it's difficulties, ITS FUN. Blox Fruits don't know how to make their grind enjoyable like in other games like God of War or hyucking Doom because of their satisfying combat and enemy variety something Blox Fruits will never have. That's why I quit myself when I realize that the level cap jumped to 2400. it's an embarrassment that 500k people still play this garbage if they could play something fun.

    • @midnight-envy
      @midnight-envy Год назад +12

      @@dewmdoomie1730 comparing Blox fruit to god of war is not something a sane person does it’s like comparing cod to Minecraft they are nothing alike and have nothing in common as for blox fruit despite the npc being brain dead they still can kill you easily if your not careful and as for the grinding like I said first sea sucks but in second sea it gets more fun and interesting but most new players don’t get that far (and lvl cap is 2450)

  • @Genjo7050
    @Genjo7050 Год назад +162

    Even at max level, the game is sometimes just flat out miserable. If you thought early game was painful, don’t ever get into the high level game period ever. The trading economy/market is run by the community which mostly consist of 12-15 year olds who base an entire fruits value not by general enjoyment or even use, but what’s being used by a RUclipsr one week and then the next week. PVP is sometimes bad but when you get used to it can be fun.
    As a basis, you’re totally right, the early game grind is flat out terrible which just makes the game horrible. The main problem is the fact to *have* run you have to be in a specific area later in the game which is horrible design
    Good video nonetheless

    • @extrrda
      @extrrda Год назад +6

      Xbox players who can't see chat and type:

    • @hkbrown2139
      @hkbrown2139 Год назад +21

      “PVP is fun” people with 30M bounty one shots in question:

    • @7imlazy
      @7imlazy Год назад

      Honestly screw all that it's the fact there's bounty hunters going after u the second u step outside of safe zone I'm max with 2 v4 races cdk soul guitar got leopard and dough before and everything bascially and now I don't even play the game anymore combat isn't fun when u get max you realize how much time u could've used for something else

    • @Insuroo
      @Insuroo Год назад +5

      As a guy who has 7.9m bounty. You say that the pvp is fun? I just got a physical anger from reading your comments, here is the list of blox fruit pvp now.
      1. Cdk spam
      2. Buddha spam
      3. Venom spam
      4. SHARK V4.
      5. ANGEL V4
      6. Race v4
      7. Scammer
      8. Auto bounty hackers
      9. DOUGH SPAM
      10. LEO SPAM
      11. Sneakers
      12. Runners
      13. Kill stealer
      14. HORRIBLE META
      15. PORTAL V SPAM
      16. GODHUMAN
      conclusion: the pvp system is a bs

    • @CrossGuyRiel
      @CrossGuyRiel Год назад +3

      ​@@Insuroo except for the auto bounty hackers, the rest are personal skill issues ngl

  • @fellowpoggingpenguin
    @fellowpoggingpenguin Год назад +56

    Eclipse, after watching this video, I now understand the reason I was born, nay the reason humans even exist! It was all for this, Fruit Game. Holding W and spamming my z, x, c, v, f keys are truly one of the most entertaining and productive things you can possibly do in your lifetime. Why go out and touch grass when you can play Fruit Game? Fruit Game provides all the necessary human interaction you need. It is scientifically proven that Fruit Game increases your physical strength, endurance and even intellect! Playing Fruit Game has not only gotten me a chiseled chin, 9 packs and several brain aneurysms, it has also ensured that humanity will go down a path of prosperity. Truly one of the most influential games of all time.

  • @smugdot4532
    @smugdot4532 Год назад +31

    no matter what game, you're always funny man, legit one of the few youtubers that legit makes me laugh. love your stuff bro keep it up.

  • @nogoodnamesleft3965
    @nogoodnamesleft3965 Год назад +8

    The part when eclipse says "I am the Blox Fruit" i cried. Truly a life changing quote from elipse himself

  • @meowseverywhere7004
    @meowseverywhere7004 4 дня назад +1

    The fact that you have to wait 30 minutes to retry a boss is criminal in terms of game design.

  • @boiexe2105
    @boiexe2105 Год назад +23

    If I had to guess why you couldn't go to the end and get kicked for "security" reasons Is because, your character actually glitches and gets way weirder and more pixelated the more your far from the map. If your SO far to a point, you may had been glitching so hard at that point the anti-cheat actually occured due to it.

    • @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7
      @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 Год назад +1

      No, apparently there's this invisible wall that you hit

    • @boiexe2105
      @boiexe2105 Год назад

      @@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 Strange, thought that was the case. I didnt really see the Invisible wall, I mean I did notice Eclipse suddenly just kept glitching back and forth, thinking It was just because of that, but the light particle would've been probably turned weirder the more time went on, guess It makes sense.d

    • @APNEXTdoor
      @APNEXTdoor Год назад

      @@boiexe2105yeah if your going to high up or far down your character starts bugging a lot, it would make sense for anti cheat, your character stars to get deformed and you start shaking like crazy

  • @girgi1316
    @girgi1316 Год назад +37

    Mark my words, this will end up in the top 5 most viewed eclipse videos.

    • @Shiramxru
      @Shiramxru Год назад +4

      Marking your words.

    • @DeepdelverRamen
      @DeepdelverRamen Год назад +1

      Marked your words on my forehead , I trust you dawg .

    • @BlamedBuzzard60
      @BlamedBuzzard60 Год назад +5

      @@DeepdelverRamen eclipse forehead

    • @DeepdelverRamen
      @DeepdelverRamen Год назад

      @@BlamedBuzzard60 Have you seen the tic tac toe vid LOL

    • @DaEpicTable
      @DaEpicTable Год назад

      No, its an Hour Long, so probably not

  • @quadq3285
    @quadq3285 Год назад +10

    Eclipse on blox fruits and not going mentally insane is a top tier feat

  • @hero9402
    @hero9402 День назад +1

    28:28 what are u talking about? It infact does work that way. If boss gets too far away from its location it does despawn and the bosses can go up the stairs too. Maybe the encounter u had was glitched or something but when the boss gets out from their room it despawns and spawns back to its original location.

  • @plaguelord22
    @plaguelord22 11 месяцев назад +23

    I find it really funny that a lot of the issues in the first sea (stuff like re-used boss movesets and terrible animations) are next to non-existent in the second and third sea, really goes to show that the devs don’t care about the new player experience whatsoever

    • @CrossGuyRiel
      @CrossGuyRiel 8 месяцев назад +2

      ok still 85% of your game time are still fucking clicking and doing raids lmao

    • @clyded_thysilly
      @clyded_thysilly 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@CrossGuyRiel he wasn't defending the game lol

    • @yeahright9392
      @yeahright9392 Месяц назад

      ​@@CrossGuyRielThat's basically any game lol?

    • @CrossGuyRiel
      @CrossGuyRiel Месяц назад +1

      @@yeahright9392 If ur brain have more than 2 braincells, i think i wouldnt need to break it down to u what i meant

    • @yeahright9392
      @yeahright9392 Месяц назад

      @@CrossGuyRiel As a med student from India I'm pretty sure I have more braincells than u can count

  • @CATCHTHERAINB0W_
    @CATCHTHERAINB0W_ Год назад +75

    As someone who's nearly max level in blox fruits, I will say with 100% certainty that your analysis is correct.

    • @itszayadawg
      @itszayadawg Год назад +15

      Your gonna end up on daily dose of stupid, because I’m sure this scenario happened with bee swa- BEE GAME!

    • @CATCHTHERAINB0W_
      @CATCHTHERAINB0W_ Год назад +1

      @@itszayadawg DDOS is for people who disagree with eclipse. I'm agreeing with him.

    • @UndyingHeart469
      @UndyingHeart469 Год назад +4

      @@CATCHTHERAINB0W_ yea but that didn't stop him on putting on the dude who said the same thing just in bee game

    • @TheActualKnives
      @TheActualKnives Год назад +1

      @@CATCHTHERAINB0W_ if you agree with eclipse why did you play it to near max level .,.

    • @Amongus-sz4jn
      @Amongus-sz4jn Год назад

      @@TheActualKnives have time to play and too much free time that why

  • @Sh_zha
    @Sh_zha Год назад +238

    Honestly, the devs is just more focused on the future a.k.a the third sea, since the majority of the players are already at the very end of the game, not to mention most of the things in the first and 2nd sea is already figured out, like tutorial vids, and most easy to fix things like the unaligned ladder, and the boss not being able to get up the stairs is just glossed over since it doesn't have any practical usage.

    • @midnight-envy
      @midnight-envy Год назад +7

      He refused to check anything the saber quest is easy if you check the wiki or RUclips

    • @redstormtrooperking3637
      @redstormtrooperking3637 Год назад +84

      @@midnight-envy tbh though that’s the problem, you’ve gotta check the wiki or yt instead of doing it in game. I believe he mentioned he doesn’t like using outside sources once not sure where though

    • @ThePaleMorning
      @ThePaleMorning Год назад +91

      @@midnight-envy dude, that’s literally his point, why would you look at youtube or wiki for having fun in a game ?

    • @delvon-up2se
      @delvon-up2se Год назад

      @@ThePaleMorning bro you dont even need the wiki, you just need to ask someone who has observation haki

    • @ThePaleMorning
      @ThePaleMorning Год назад +74

      @@delvon-up2se what 💀, that’s just proving my point, you can’t enjoy the game without help

  • @wickermind6668
    @wickermind6668 4 месяца назад +9

    Play through the worst bandit beater to ever exist to gain access to the middest pvp to ever exist. I love Roblox.

  • @deepfriedcaprisun2678
    @deepfriedcaprisun2678 Год назад +16

    seeing Eclipse rage at a misaligned ladder was the funniest thing all week 😭😭

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      @somebody6282 10 месяцев назад

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    • @somebody6282
      @somebody6282 10 месяцев назад

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  • @timmythh
    @timmythh Год назад +310

    As a max level, playing and grinding with friends is definitely the way to go. Never try to grind this game solo otherwise the game will just feel lonely and demotivating.

    • @delvon-up2se
      @delvon-up2se Год назад +10

      unless you speedrun through it and take your time getting the rest of the stuff :)

    • @droogletfn9993
      @droogletfn9993 Год назад +3

      My friends don't like the game cuz they played alone ;-;

    • @elya4791
      @elya4791 Год назад

      daily dose of stupid this guy

    • @owenclark3241
      @owenclark3241 Год назад +6

      honestly yeah, me and my friend grinded to max together made the experience much better. I also believe the game is just better when you get to second and third sea. To actually enjoy the game i think you gotta get to second and third sea.

    • @UltraUnstoppableUnavoidableU.
      @UltraUnstoppableUnavoidableU. Год назад +12

      Just hack
      This is a joke

  • @Anonymous01234
    @Anonymous01234 Год назад +12

    After trying out the game. Yeah, most of it is do X thing for number of Y times. Then go to Z place and do the process again. There are some side quests like the abilities that require exploration. Obtaining different items or engaging in naval warfare. The most fun I had in this game was randomly fighting other players. The dude pulls out a gun, and I punch him to death. Or steal a ship and use it against a flying ship. But the base game is little to have fun. Unless you organize events.

  • @EpicWorld.
    @EpicWorld. Год назад +8

    "blox fruits is the dark souls of roblox"
    deepwoken in the corner: what?

  • @chezburgerE
    @chezburgerE 9 месяцев назад +23

    "Don't worry it gets good a sea 2"
    "How long did it take you to get there?"
    "7 months"
    "Call a therapist."

    • @Yorin23
      @Yorin23 9 месяцев назад

      Played like an hour a day bro and it took me less than a week

    • @Yorin23
      @Yorin23 9 месяцев назад

      was even js messing around most of the time

    • @chezburgerE
      @chezburgerE 9 месяцев назад

      @@Yorin23 gl ending up in ddos xd

    • @Mahiii778
      @Mahiii778 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Yorin23do you know a thing called grass

    • @zinogoop1544
      @zinogoop1544 2 месяца назад

      @@Mahiii778he said “an hour a day” lmao how is that being a nolife??

  • @torinlupo807
    @torinlupo807 Год назад +76

    So sorry to hear this happened to you eclipse hopefully you can recover from this

  • @Bracken40
    @Bracken40 Год назад +12

    honestly, i really enjoy the videos that are streamed beforehand.

  • @Beij1ngCorn
    @Beij1ngCorn 3 месяца назад +4

    Blox fruit devs not knowing the plural of snowman and bee game devs not knowing what the combination of simple colors create. Love how these developers are just about as smart as their target demographic.

  • @astrodust3858
    @astrodust3858 Год назад +15

    Did Eclipse lose his sanity? Yes
    Is blox fruit bad? Yes
    Is it paid to win? Yes
    Is it grindy? Yes
    How long does it take to get max? Probably your whole life
    Is it fun? No
    Here are some of the questions, that you might ask yourself, but great video

    • @ronnyarer
      @ronnyarer Год назад

      It isn’t pay to win but almost everything else is right😊

    • @bosser-eu9se
      @bosser-eu9se Год назад +2

      @@ronnyarer pay 10 dollars for synapse x to get max level in 2 hours

    • @laranjanegociadora9877
      @laranjanegociadora9877 Год назад

      @@bosser-eu9se you dont need synapse

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 Год назад

      @@laranjanegociadora9877 but highly recommended you get it for the actual game

    • @callmebready6376
      @callmebready6376 Год назад +1

      @@ronnyarer the fucking pack in the shop

  • @wolfarmy_gaming9845
    @wolfarmy_gaming9845 Год назад +87

    I know it wont happen for obvious reasons but it think it would be really fun to see him play Deepwoken just so we can all laugh at his rage and bs moments lmao.

    • @loczek_granie9357
      @loczek_granie9357 Год назад +7

      Ye eclipsis playing deepwoken would be golden

    • @Skyeblu224
      @Skyeblu224 Год назад +23

      i can just imagine the rants of WHAT DO I DO
      ITS TOLD ME NOTHING WAS I JUST SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THAT OUT!?

    • @eduaxlz1909
      @eduaxlz1909 Год назад +8

      well atleast the game got a tutorial

    • @nickp8811
      @nickp8811 Год назад +5

      like this post up i want it to happen

    • @getsilly633
      @getsilly633 Год назад +2

      @@eduaxlz1909 the tutorial doesn’t even tell you where to go i spent 1 hour walking around and attacking guards but yt is a thing

  • @charlesm6819
    @charlesm6819 Месяц назад +3

    "Eventually there will be 0 real people left" Eclipse casually saying his viewers aren't human (I agree)

  • @tukuturii734
    @tukuturii734 Месяц назад +1

    40:23 this exact case actually happened to this game. The devs released an OP transformation (to this day it is still very busted) but it was locked behind an EXTREMELY cryptid message and puzzle that was super grindy.
    The ENTIRE COMMUNITY (at the time 500k+ players) spent THREE (I think) WHOLE MONTHS trying to figure out the puzzle and no one got past the first part of it because it was that difficult. The only reason why we figured out the puzzle was because the devs had to give us the answers because they can't create a simple riddle for a kids game.

  • @cosmos-1999
    @cosmos-1999 Год назад +12

    Eclipse's Sanity is Unbreakable

  • @somrandom224
    @somrandom224 Год назад +35

    i'd love to see eclipse play deepwoken although it would turn into hell because when you first join deepwoken its super hard to learn as a beginner

    • @newusernamessuck
      @newusernamessuck Год назад +12

      midwoken

    • @nsyb4588
      @nsyb4588 Год назад +2

      I want to see him play it so bad, but part of me feels like he'll consider the permadeath horrible design and not fun at all

    • @insertpng6289
      @insertpng6289 Год назад +3

      @@nsyb4588 to be fair, eclipse doesn’t seem to play that many roguelikes, which all have the common theme of permadeath

    • @LocalLawnChair
      @LocalLawnChair Год назад +5

      @@nsyb4588 but hey atleast the grind is fairly short to get to power 15 now, only takes about an hour if you know what your doing and havent taken the trial of one

    • @andrewa4745
      @andrewa4745 Год назад +6

      @@newusernamessuck still significantly better than 99% of Roblox games

  • @2picklesanddishsoap547
    @2picklesanddishsoap547 Год назад +6

    Gonna be honest, Yes, the game is grind after grind after grind. You grind levels and once you hit max level you start grinding for Fighting styles and swords and once you`re done with that, there`s maybe one or two puzzles you can solve and then all that`s left to do is PvP with nothing to gain but a number next to your name in the leaderboard that gets higher with each kill.
    But at the same time, I do have to admit that it`s kinda nice to just put on some music in the backround and turn off your brain if youre looking for something to occupie yourself

  • @Some_Shmuck
    @Some_Shmuck Год назад +59

    We can shame eclipse all we want, but at least he's being honest with us. Homie just wants that bag 💰💰💰

  • @kkkoyes4189
    @kkkoyes4189 Год назад +10

    pressing the home button next to where the gear is teleports you back to where you set your spawn instead of resetting

  • @MrKrock-po9ti
    @MrKrock-po9ti Год назад +8

    The only thing i like about Blox Fruits is that every "good" feature it has can be also counted as a bad feature cause it seems kinda ironic. Like: "just get a friend so grind would be more fun!" "In the end game it more fun and has a lot more content!" "There a lot of items to grind for!"

    • @Voiddity
      @Voiddity Год назад

      how isthis something to like? your ending up on ddos

    • @ultrite2696
      @ultrite2696 Год назад

      @@Voiddityi think op never intended this comment to be positive towards blox fruits

    • @Voiddity
      @Voiddity Год назад

      @@ultrite2696 he said The only thing i like about Blox Fruits is that every "good" feature it has can be also counted as a bad feature cause it seems kinda ironic

    • @user-dh7sm9zh9e
      @user-dh7sm9zh9e 11 месяцев назад

      None of them are good things

    • @pendragon.-.
      @pendragon.-. 7 месяцев назад

      @@Voiddity what is ddos

  • @enderwill2694
    @enderwill2694 8 месяцев назад +2

    It's nice to see that even when nothing is going on in the game, more people watch him. Just shows how many people just watch Eclipse for HIM instead of the games he plays

  • @FrogEater9001
    @FrogEater9001 Год назад +12

    20 minutes in and he figured out 80% of the entirety of blox fruits
    Edit : DAM BRO ECLIPSE GOT LONG ASS HAIR

  • @EyesOfRequiem
    @EyesOfRequiem Год назад +15

    i feel genuinely bad for the people who try and defend this game. there’s quite literally zero redeeming qualities about it yet they have gaslighted themselves into believing it’s worth playing, and somehow good enough to defend like their lives depend on it

    • @dutchball7119
      @dutchball7119 5 месяцев назад

      Sorry but sometimes you wil have fun
      I’m one of those persons who actually likes grinding but even if you’re not I sometimes you wil have fun but yeah I do understand what you mean

    • @chezburgerE
      @chezburgerE 5 месяцев назад

      @@dutchball7119 what the hell did my eyes just witness

    • @dutchball7119
      @dutchball7119 5 месяцев назад

      @@chezburgerE hey sorry but I kinda like grinding it’s relaxing

    • @dutchball7119
      @dutchball7119 5 месяцев назад

      @@chezburgerE and even then like 99% of players atleast enjoy some parts

    • @chezburgerE
      @chezburgerE 5 месяцев назад

      @@dutchball7119 no, I mean what was that grammar. My brain has melted into bits from your sentence.
      Also, I am confident that AT MOST 50% of people actually like the "content" in this "game". The other 49% are just brainwashed from that 50% to play the game against their will since "it gets better at the end". I'm part of the 49%, but recently quit after I realized NOTHING CHANGED after I got a fruit.

  • @mano__diep1318
    @mano__diep1318 Год назад +20

    blox fruit players explaining why it gets good after 2.4k levels

    • @cookieking3061
      @cookieking3061 Год назад

      But u need to get to lv 2,4K which ruin the whole thing, kids nowadays love grinding for some reason, which i dont and alot of people dont like beside the 9 years old

    • @mano__diep1318
      @mano__diep1318 Год назад +1

      @@cookieking3061 thats what i was saying though

    • @lynx6345
      @lynx6345 8 месяцев назад

      They're mentally and physically brainwashed by this this game

    • @Zembie1
      @Zembie1 6 месяцев назад

      But it becomes one of the best games on Roblox at 3rd sea and I would know cuz I’m max level and my favorite game of all time is Blox fruits

    • @lynx6345
      @lynx6345 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Zembie1 are you sure about that? Think about it twice.

  • @fatdinosaurfood8059
    @fatdinosaurfood8059 Месяц назад +14

    Newest comments are my fav on these types of videos

  • @TricxL
    @TricxL Год назад +12

    How to get dragon fruit
    Rule one: go to sky island
    Rule 2: defeat 4 NPCS(any)
    Rule 3: go to jungle
    Rule 4: turn off your computer
    Rule 5: get your pillow and your blanket
    Rule 6: go to sleep and keep dreaming.

  • @Notworking-z9z
    @Notworking-z9z 11 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks you SO MUCH my man, I've learned so much. Like fake sales and a lot others how games earn money. I will use this knowledge in my future, and remember that this video has to be one of the best learning videos I ever experienced
    thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u

  • @xylious.
    @xylious. Год назад +6

    Honestly if Eclipse tries deepwoken for awhile he would probably like it

  • @nicknick_nick
    @nicknick_nick 2 месяца назад +2

    As someone who hasn't coded, they could just make a ramp over the stairs, turn on collisions, zero the opacity, and there the npc can go upstairs no crazy pathfinding needed.

  • @BartholomewTheIII
    @BartholomewTheIII Год назад +30

    To those who have limited knowledge of blox fruits, I can fill you in.
    Most of the players either have no life to grind OR use macro/hacks to grind. Of course anyone would ask, "Why?! What's the point of the game if you just use hacks?". The answer would be for the endgame, the pvp. Anyone would say that that's stupid. Yes, yes it is. The PVP is a preference, there's games with a block system, a dodging system.
    But no No! Blox fruit does not have those system. What does blox fruit's PvP have? Moving at hyperspeed like you're some crack addict with your opponent doing the same, dodging each other attacks without requiring any skill BESIDE mashing WASD and Q to dash, waiting for the 30 seconds cooldown to be over just so you can repeat the same exact combo.
    The reason people find it so fun is due to their attention span, the fights end either so fast which benefits their short attention span OR the fights end so long but they're filled with such adrenaline because they're like monkeys being given rocks to throw, but instead of rocks, its buttons to mash.

    • @BartholomewTheIII
      @BartholomewTheIII Год назад +1

      @Brick Magma the only difference between blox fruit players and arsenal players, is that most blox fruit players are way too laggy to play arsenal, so they just stay at blox fruits.

    • @arbalest327
      @arbalest327 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'd still rather play neither of them because I hate blocking and m1 spamming simulators.

    • @ItsFlairon
      @ItsFlairon 5 месяцев назад

      @@BartholomewTheIII i would argue that bloxfruits is more laggy than arsenal tbh

    • @tub-v7x
      @tub-v7x 5 месяцев назад

      Yes only no life’s play this game not losers spamming paragraphs for a game no one made you play

    • @RuboFTW
      @RuboFTW 4 месяца назад

      So you are saying people that spend multiple hours playing this game are less of losers than the guy who made this paragraph which probably took less than 15 minutes? I would argue not​@@tub-v7x

  • @PotatoMaster21
    @PotatoMaster21 Год назад +7

    im convinced all players of this game are not real players

    • @hydrasketch3418
      @hydrasketch3418 Год назад +7

      exactly theres literally no way they exist irl

    • @andrewa4745
      @andrewa4745 Год назад +2

      a lot of them are exploiters

  • @StarNeverDoes
    @StarNeverDoes Год назад +9

    ah yes Eclipse, i sure do love watching paint dry :)

  • @hero9402
    @hero9402 День назад +1

    Bro infact u should have listened to the viewer and joined their VIP server.
    And infact recieved help from someone who knows the game to guide u through it.

  • @jorell_lucena
    @jorell_lucena 21 день назад +2

    Eclipse's "550,000 players" has the same energy as JobbyTheHong's "500 dollars" from his MP-44 review.

  • @slippyoar8458
    @slippyoar8458 Год назад +9

    I'm a bloxfruit player who has maxed out everything in it,and I agree with every single statement eclipse said,I'm just a masochist that's why I play it

    • @MEpoAHMED
      @MEpoAHMED Год назад

      Same i quit the game like a year ago and i just cant see myself playing it
      I got to second sea in like 2 years bc of constantly quittting and coming back and the only thing that made me get into third sea is bc of my friends

  • @animosity3771
    @animosity3771 8 месяцев назад +15

    14:50 did bro predict sol’s rng?

  • @hero9402
    @hero9402 День назад +1

    41:01 yeah it is supposed to be like that since its a secret weapon and when it was added people had no idea how to get it. And they slowly figured it out and shared it on the internet and now everyone knows. Otherwise that weapon would have been very rare. I feel like its fine since its the most powerful sword in sea 1 and good in sea 2 even.

    • @idkwhatoname
      @idkwhatoname Час назад

      he’s not coming back why bother giving advice it is literally 1 years ago

  • @ananaskarandash1060
    @ananaskarandash1060 Год назад +4

    Eclipse, I think you should actually try out deepwoken. I genuinely think you will like it. It costs 400 robux, but it definitely worth it. It is the best game on roblox for sure, nothing even comes close(maybe GPO, but GPO is just blox fruits with better effects and better pvp). The amount of work deepwoken devs put into it in insane, btw this game won latest roblox game of the year award and I think most innovative game award(im not sure if it exists). Basically, this is open world rpg perma death game and its hard as hell and for that reason takes a lot of skill. Main point of the game is pvp, but the pve aspect is not bad too. Also this game has great lore, its really unique. So as a pve player, you can chill and enjoy lore and explore open world(until you get ganked by some players with shiny enchanted weapons removing your hp bar in 2 hits).

  • @MaukPog
    @MaukPog Год назад +47

    As someone who is max level (I quit the game and regret every nanosecond I've spent in it) everything you said in this video was correct. The level grind is always the same even in 2nd and 3rd sea. Game never gets good, the only reason kids play this game is because it's easy, free and based on one of the most popular anime of all time. A lot of people say that they play it because of the PvP which is just ''Spam braindead high dmg moves until enemy dies'' there's no block/parry system.

    • @2_lau_1
      @2_lau_1 Год назад +1

      Its easy at first but at end game its much more complex especially to unlock things like some of the swords, v4 races and its a fair pvp in my opinion its true that the 1 shot comobs are not very nice but u can just be the one that does it, and i like pvp cuz it takes alot of space and movement wich i love

    • @ThePaleMorning
      @ThePaleMorning Год назад +15

      @@2_lau_1 that's the definition of easy, oh btw, many of the puzzles and obtaining method are just senseless and the fact that devs are putting themselves into the game is just cringe.
      Blox fruits is trash

    • @Noxthesergal
      @Noxthesergal Год назад +10

      @@2_lau_1 no kidding you’re describing the combat as aut but there’s less mechanics no block or fun moves just people running around senselessly like Sonic and whoever has the highest damaging biggest aoe wins

    • @2_lau_1
      @2_lau_1 Год назад +1

      @@Noxthesergal there are fun moves and its not senselessy

    • @Noxthesergal
      @Noxthesergal Год назад +7

      @@2_lau_1 like what lol every stand in aut has some unique stuff even the worst stand in the game sol does blox fruits is just aoes with different effects

  • @happyemoji598
    @happyemoji598 Год назад +7

    blox fruit, i mean blox fruits has the best AI of all the games ive ever seen, since all the attacks are very diferenciated, for example, the gorilla attacks are grey, and the yeti ones are blue.

    • @anexo4619
      @anexo4619 Год назад

      bro you have not played any other game then

    • @AverageDunce
      @AverageDunce Год назад

      Mf's when they see colors:

    • @TheRealExr
      @TheRealExr Год назад

      Agree bro this eclipse guy is dumb asf!!!! All of the npc are very unique to an extent

    • @TheRealExr
      @TheRealExr Год назад +2

      @@anexo4619 ever heard of sarcasm? Or a joke?

    • @anexo4619
      @anexo4619 Год назад

      @@TheRealExr who tf is you 😭

  • @eye8071
    @eye8071 Год назад +62

    i think this game has potential, the combat can be fun(though the balancing is so trash that you just end up getting deleted as soon as you get hit) and the visuals are great but it doesnt even matter cause you have to grind for so long just for the "good" part, even the stuff from 2nd sea or 3rd sea isnt fun its still press button on brainless mobs till they all die then repeat(just with new reward so that you're neurons dont decay)

    • @StupidlyLazy
      @StupidlyLazy Год назад +5

      i play blox fruits regularly and i agree
      you have to waste 10 FUCKING HOURS JUST TO GET TO THE GOOD STUFF AND THATS BULLSHIT

    • @amedy1186
      @amedy1186 Год назад +2

      me personally, i just enjoy making kids cry after i beat the living shit out of them using the most bullshit build, and yes i do agree that the grind mechanic is pure bs and pvp aswell (looking at dough and leo users) but the new things in the game just hits the sweet spot (race awakening) as it basically removes the player limit (which means that spamming random bs becomes easier but players with actual skills would just straight up dominate)

    • @anastasiadudette706
      @anastasiadudette706 Год назад +7

      Why do you have to spend so long to get to the good part? I want the game I play to be good at the start

    • @StupidlyLazy
      @StupidlyLazy Год назад +2

      @@anastasiadudette706 true

    • @cythrex
      @cythrex Год назад +5

      its the only game i actually used exploits to grind and still took more than 2 weeks to max out my character even with the pc on overnight

  • @goddessmatsu5983
    @goddessmatsu5983 8 месяцев назад +10

    I keep coming back to this video because I find it ridiculously amusing that Eclipse's POV is entirely accurate in portraying how little the game does to hook you. And the best part? It only gets worse as you progress. Bounty hunters constantly jumping you in 2nd and 3rd Sea when you're just trying to grind and maybe get to a point you could have fun. Scripters always stealing kills and making things take even longer (Sidenote: The general community considers using scripts to be the best way to grind, from what I can tell, but it just as easily can and will be used for PVP as well. Don't try to defend it, that shit just sucks). All of the NPCs are boring and offer nothing engaging aside from maybe throwing out one generic move.
    If you wanna talk about the parts people defend though, let's talk the combat. More specifically, let's talk the combat's balance. Starting off strong here, Mochi, or Dough if you're one of those weirdos who somehow thinks that's a better name (Personally, I just call it the Coom fruit, because that's all it looks like to me). Ever since Mochi got its awakening, it has consistently been considered one of the strongest fruits in the entire game for almost anything, which means there are a FUCKLOAD of people pining after it like some sort of holy grail, or flooding chat with annoying messages asking people to help them awaken it. Let me just get down to brass tacks here, Mochi is NOT a fruit that requires skill to use despite what you might hear. All you have to do is press 3-4 fucking buttons and your opponent dies, possibly less depending on the circumstances. And nowadays, all the devs have been doing when they aren't sitting on their asses and ghosting the community about updates is adding ridiculous Zoan fruits that only mess the balance up even MORE. The entire combat "meta" simply boils down to whoever can press their free stun button first. If you wanna talk Zoan fruits that are way too ridiculous (And before someone tries to tell me it's a skill issue, I have both used and fought AGAINST people who use these fruits), Leopard is probably one that immediately springs to mind. Its moves are so fast that reacting to them at close range without just pressing E to turn on Observation (Which doesn't even work all the time) is completely pointless because you're going to get hit anyway. Even with all of that privilege, I've made users of those fruits RAGEQUIT because their brain suddenly evaporates when you start outranging them (Light main btw, talk shit as you will). Oh, and my final gripe about balance, the races. Namely, their Awakenings (Or V4s). Mink, Cyborg, and Ghoul seem fine enough from what I've seen. Shark and Angel, however, HELL NO. Shark V4 makes you effectively unkillable with how much artificial health it gives you, and Angel allows for overly easy counterplay to most of the current meta (Which I personally don't give a shit about. Keep complaining, sweatlords, it's hilarious).
    But easily the WORST part about this game is, in fact...the devs. I can't speak for their history since the game's inception when it was still called Blox Piece, but in modern day, these motherfuckers are honestly some of the LAZIEST devs I've heard of. Or, at least, they sure make it look that way. Their last update to the game as of this comment being made was Part 1 of the Christmas update of 2023, in which the game's first subclass was added along with yet ANOTHER pointless Zoan fruit in the form of T-Rex. After that dropped, everything suddenly fell into complete radio silence for several months while they did...whatever it is they do. Their top priority right now seems to be reworking Dragon, but even that has seemingly been delayed countless times when they said it would be finished in the same month they dropped the Christmas update. They still haven't said ANYTHING (To my knowledge) about the map reworks, adding more ways to level up, the new trading system, the crew system rework, etc. All the while, they're still pushing out fruits with Robux costs that equal around 30- 50 fucking dollars. And the worst part is, people (Myself included btw, don't you dare think for a SECOND that I don't have a major invested stake in this game, no matter how much I wish I didn't now) just continue to eat it up because the game is so content starved that everyone just wants to keep enjoying New Toy Syndrome than actually hound the devs to be a bit more proactive.
    Closing thoughts? This game is still in a terrible spot, and despite what potential it might still have, there is no evidence that tells me the devs truly want to capitalize on it as much as they can. I've already reached the level cap and wasted hours of my time trying to glean potential fun out of this game, but nowadays I only ever check in on it to see if it's been updated whatsoever. No amount of flashy VFX or particles is gonna mask the fact that all the devs seem to care about now is draining people's wallets. Maybe when they start being more considerate of the community outcry, I can start considering it at least decent again. Right now though? Absolutely not, I could be sitting there AFK watching something on RUclips and having more fun.
    Eclipse, as someone who only recently found your content, I'm glad there's someone out there that cares enough to call out the bad practices of modern Roblox devs and saying it straight. I hope this channel keeps going and blows the fuck up, because this is the kind of kick in the pants that people need to see that Roblox just isn't what it used to be anymore.

  • @ARAK_46
    @ARAK_46 5 месяцев назад +9

    And here we have the Innovation Awards game that won against deepwoken !!

  • @BingusDev123
    @BingusDev123 Год назад +7

    Blox fruits gameplay in a nutshell:
    Play
    Select quest
    *COMMIT MASS MURDER*
    do the same quest again
    Some sweaty ass higher lvl player starts to pvp you for no reason and cries if you say you wont pvp.
    Get bored as hell
    Repeat
    Oh and lose braincells from boring grind

  • @OneN4me
    @OneN4me Год назад +5

    I'm starting to think Eclipse didn't defeat the 8 snowmans

  • @michael_kaiser7
    @michael_kaiser7 Год назад +45

    Respect to this guy for sacrificing his braincells for us

    • @musket18
      @musket18 Год назад

      you mean for the money?

    • @plaaxys
      @plaaxys Год назад

      @@musket18 is that supposed to be bad

    • @The1nOnlyGoober
      @The1nOnlyGoober Год назад +1

      ​@@musket18 sacrificing his brain cells for money doesn't seem like a bad trade

  • @ShikiRawr
    @ShikiRawr Год назад +99

    I've played blox fruits alot with my friends, and had alot of fun, but I completely agree with you lmao. All of the fun I have had was just getting really overpowered stuff with my friend and then killing sweats who's entire personality is based on their blox fruits skill and watching them rage so hard in the chat XD. Even when you do get to max level and can start grinding the bosses with decent drops, all you can do at that point after getting your stuff is pvping. The bosses never get better and imo get alot worse as the bosses are just heavily buffed versions of a op fruit that makes it so you practically have to play with other people to beat them. The pvp also is extremely bad as you almost can't do anything against teamers, and people who have played the game longer will most likely have an objective non skill advantage over you because of how bounty (which you have to pvp for if you want bounty over 2.5 million) increases your dmg and defense. (sorry for the long comment lol I'm just letting out my anger at my 9 yr self for spending over 10k robux on such a bad game)

    • @mano__diep1318
      @mano__diep1318 Год назад

      ur definitely part of the problem

    • @4lc4ch0fa
      @4lc4ch0fa Год назад +18

      i ain't reading allat 😭🗣️💯

    • @jundongzhang9756
      @jundongzhang9756 Год назад +3

      It’s not a bad game bro there’s race v4 to deal with that, and also can’t u team in basically any other pvp game?

    • @dannyphantom3591
      @dannyphantom3591 Год назад +8

      @@jundongzhang9756 try to team when 6 ppl trying to do a 1 shot combo on you

    • @ShikiRawr
      @ShikiRawr Год назад +17

      @@jundongzhang9756 There are literally no ways to counter teaming. Also race v4 doesn’t really matter when there is a whole ass Mexican family tree trying to kill you. Just because you can team in other games doesn’t mean that blox fruits is good.

  • @tsumemango
    @tsumemango 5 месяцев назад +14

    keep in mind, it's not just 550k players in total. it's 550k CURRENT ONLINE players, which means that several million other offline players exist. crazy

    • @chezburgerE
      @chezburgerE 5 месяцев назад +6

      note that half of them just wanted to try it out cause it was popular (then realized it sucked) and another quarter only played for the content.

  • @MassiveMaleMonkey
    @MassiveMaleMonkey 6 месяцев назад +5

    34:05
    the lava just hits you every frame you are touching it but when you're standing still or barely touch it it doesn't register they're using a very barebones lava brick script

    • @Teacup44
      @Teacup44 5 месяцев назад +1

      literally just script.Parent.Touched:Connect() [or smthn i havent coded in 18 trillion years]

    • @MichaelHawk5638
      @MichaelHawk5638 18 дней назад

      They consider stuff like THIS "peak".

  • @Monkey0318
    @Monkey0318 3 дня назад +4

    If 2nd sea is where it gets fun, why not just delete the 1st sea

  • @cheemelt
    @cheemelt 8 месяцев назад +6

    Eclipse you know, getting max is worth it
    gives you existential crisis

  • @iamgodincarnate1234
    @iamgodincarnate1234 Год назад +6

    really makes me wonder what eclipse would think about deepwoken....

  • @Kaydenjames1028
    @Kaydenjames1028 12 часов назад

    The worst part is that it’s WAY too easy to accidentally eat a bad fruit because of a misclick, like they should at least have some sort of confirmation like “are you sure you’d like to eat this fruit?” But of course, if you eat a bad fruit, it means you have to grind even longer to get it again or worse, spend robux.

  • @tharikkalil4499
    @tharikkalil4499 Год назад +6

    Well, now that Eclipse just broke the jojo barrier and is, not only experiencing jojo roblox games, i guess its the perfect timing for him to experience Lagwoken lagger 2. I'm sure it will be a kick/10

    • @dankerbooper
      @dankerbooper Год назад

      Deepwoken's lag issues are mostly fixed with the exception of the Eastern Luminant for... Some reason

    • @dwfantastic9679
      @dwfantastic9679 Год назад

      you just have a bad router

    • @kinkavi
      @kinkavi Год назад

      @@dwfantastic9679 400 mbps and I can't pull ping lower than 120 in most cases