Bart Kay 1st interview

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • I thought this was a short b/c it's in mp4 format like the shorts. Bart is very clever & funny, but he is also a liar & a shill for the meat industry. He never provides any useful information. He just criticizes everything about plant based diets. My video "Bart Kay judgment day" explains all this in more detail.

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  • @PeterRogersMD
    @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +31

    I thought this was a short. This interview on Bart's channel was a joke. He wouldn't let me talk. He started making stuff up, and saying stuff that is blatantly untrue. That's why I laughed. My goal was to have a dialogue, and work towards the truth. Bart's goal is to confuse people. He never provides any helpful information. He just says things like "epidemiology is worthless." He says that, b/c it proves that paleo-keto-carnivore is a joke.

    • @JayDee-Plantnosher
      @JayDee-Plantnosher Месяц назад +17

      The man can't be taken seriously. I can't beleive you gave him the time. But I guess it was worth it because it really showed him for what he is. A top shelf intellectual! 😅 All the best Dr. Rogers!
      P.s. You conducted yourself as a gentleman and a scholar!

    • @allatamusic
      @allatamusic Месяц назад +11

      I used to listen to Bart try to discuss/debate with people as I do enjoy hearing the 'other side' and challenges to my own ways, but gave up years ago. His opinions means nothing. And he's not nice about it, either.

    • @jackbiles4525
      @jackbiles4525 Месяц назад +7

      Bart replaces science with anger. I believe the medical missionaries who reported that peasants in Africa, S America, and Asia did not get the degenerate diseases we do. Please continue your work.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +3

      @@jackbiles4525 Thanks!

    • @stevesklenka2181
      @stevesklenka2181 Месяц назад +5

      Anyone who opposes Dr. Esselstyn’s work, immediately conveys a message that he doesn’t understand nutrition. I lose interest in any subsequent dialogue with people like that.

  • @perry_123
    @perry_123 Месяц назад +15

    The difference between these two people is like night and day.....Thats the difference between someone on a high animal diet.
    He is rude and arrogant and peter is very calm and gathered.

  • @11235Aodh
    @11235Aodh Месяц назад +19

    Yet, my husband's blood glucose has been stellar after going 100% starch based. Every time we eat a little fat we notice it as his blood sugar is very high again. Proof is in the pudding, from what i've been witnessing you and dr. mcDougall are 100% right. It's the food!

    • @Div_Ann
      @Div_Ann Месяц назад +4

      My father was prediabetic and trending towards full on diabetes, fasting BG was around 8-9mmol/L. He tried zero carb for a month and his BG went up so he scrapped that.
      A while after that I convinced him to try zero fat, he literally ate the kempner diet for a month. Only white rice, he would also add siracha (0fat) and 1-2 chicken breasts per day. His BG was NORMAL within 3 days. 3 DAYS!
      After that, there was a period of a few months where as soon as he'd have a bit of fat, his fasting BG would go up. He started training and built quite a bit of muscle over the following 1-1.5 years and now he can have a bit of fat a couple of days a week and his BG is normal.

  • @ATIWatchReviews
    @ATIWatchReviews Месяц назад +8

    Wow, he's the type that no matter what evidence you give him, he'll never accept his bad habits are BAD for him. A total lost cause people like him.

  • @renaeselix5648
    @renaeselix5648 Месяц назад +14

    Well I attempted to listen to this but got so disgusted with how the he would not have a conversation with Dr Rogers! I can’t listen anymore. This guy is absurd !

  • @deborahmorrison6092
    @deborahmorrison6092 Месяц назад +6

    Bart will not even let Dr. Rogers finish. Very rude. Bart thinks he know it all. Why does he feel he always needs to win the debate? Very sad!!!

  • @catherinepemberton5375
    @catherinepemberton5375 Месяц назад +16

    This guy is so rude

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 Месяц назад +9

    It amazes me that Bart doesn't like the nutrient denseness of plants, him being a peanut and all.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +4

      Bart is a shill for meat industry. He knows there is no true data to support meat, so he just says that epidemiology is nonsense, and that plant research is biased. He is clever and funny at creating drama, but he doesn't provide any useful information, and he lies, and makes stuff up. That's why I started smiling, b/c I realized the whole thing was a farce. If I was to do it over, I would have been more assertive. I entered the discussion thinking it would be a real conversation, which was naive on my part.

  • @teachertrx1204
    @teachertrx1204 Месяц назад +4

    Dr. Rogers' IQ is so far above this Bart guy's

  • @Div_Ann
    @Div_Ann Месяц назад +7

    I love your work Dr Rogers but I am not sure if I will have the stomach to watch Bart for an hour and a half.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +2

      Yes. He is quite obnoxious. I did make a video called "Is paleo keto carnivore a joke," that should be available later today.

  • @ana-pi6ut
    @ana-pi6ut Месяц назад +8

    Good job, Dr Rogers! Dialogue is always good even if they do not agree with you. ❤

  • @ritadallas670
    @ritadallas670 Месяц назад +8

    Does his lack of fiber " cause " his sense of urgency to rudely interrupt people.
    So annoying!

    • @ritadallas670
      @ritadallas670 Месяц назад +1

      OMG he is the most UNGROUNDED person I've heard lately!!

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +1

      Apparently so!

  • @David-no7zi
    @David-no7zi Месяц назад +7

    I enjoy listening to opposing viewpoints but Bart comes across as someone with a huge chip on his shoulder. He's so unlikeable and so hostile I don't think I'm going to be able to watch this. I don't know what his problem is maybe he was bullied in school or something and is overcompensating now but you have the patience of a saint to sit there and listen to him. I can only assume his schtick is to try and antagnoise people into shouting matched for RUclips views.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +1

      He doesn't having anything useful to say about carnivore diet, so he just plays games.

  • @ultmiddle4991
    @ultmiddle4991 Месяц назад +5

    I’m more carnivore than starchivore after decades and tens of thousands of dollars trying to digest starches without incapacitating pain; I tried listening to this discussion the first time it hit the waves and this second attempt is still too painful to endure. Dr Rogers is rudely, continually interrupted and shutdown. Apologies for the lack of respect 😮

  • @DamenSpikeGamesHQ
    @DamenSpikeGamesHQ Месяц назад +4

    He won't talk about the data, won't even hear it. He tries to shift the positive effects of a plant based diet onto other unadjusted factors that he doesn't even mention, but then doesn't accept the data even when the outcomes are adjusted for said factors... So he'll only talk about mechanism, which is somewhat theoretical after a certain point. Yes, at some point you do need to look at the data to see if you're understanding the mechanism of human physiology properly. Its a shame, he has misled a lot of people with his clever words, and most people will be swayed by this, but he doesn't have a grasp of common sense because he refuses to be objective about all the information out there. Good job Dr. You could have hammered him but you clearly could tell its not worth it. The loudest one is the stupidest.

  • @DERISNER
    @DERISNER Месяц назад +5

    The only thing I got out of this video was the knowledge that Mr. Kay is rude, arrogant, and condescending.
    When he basically laughed at Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn's work and ridiculed T Colin Campbell as not even doing science, I pretty much lost interest completely at that point.
    I do wonder how many people will suffer needlessly by hearing Bart Kay serve up non-stop good news about their bad habits.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +4

      There is no data to support the keto paleo diets so he just plays games.

  • @TrojansFirst
    @TrojansFirst Месяц назад +6

    Fiber is essential for a healthy and thriving gut microbiome. I hope you go the microbiome route to debunk Kay's absurd claim that fiber isn't beneficial and even damaging.

  • @MrBluto2761
    @MrBluto2761 Месяц назад +7

    Wow. What a rude person. Im surprised Peter gave him any of his time.

  • @marilynNV
    @marilynNV Месяц назад +6

    This is painful to watch.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +2

      Yes, it's ridiculous. Bart is clever & funny, but he has no useful information. He also makes stuff up and lies. He's a shill for big meat.

  • @ErickRaffai
    @ErickRaffai Месяц назад +7

    I loved listening to your polite responses Dr. Rogers, but I wish Professor High fat phony would have made a special appearance to explain exactly how one becomes diabetic to Bart Kay on a cellular level 😂😂

  • @livewithaffection6905
    @livewithaffection6905 Месяц назад +4

    I think you were too nice in the interview. McDougall would have probably been kicked off after 5 mins. Perhaps you should have pointed out that there wouldn’t be enough food for everyone if we ate meat only. As well, the animals we eat are getting their nutrients from plants so ultimately plants are the key.

  • @dawseyboy1
    @dawseyboy1 Месяц назад +4

    i feel your issue in the discussion with Bart was you were trying to be too polite, he clearly wasn't.

    • @dawseyboy1
      @dawseyboy1 Месяц назад +2

      so i cant believe i watched the whole thing, he wouldnt let you talk and every piece of evidence you gave he said did not qualify. he did not give any evidence whatsoever. pfft, what a waste of your time, sorry Dr. Rogers, wow, you stayed a true gentleman tho, good on you.

  • @stevesklenka2181
    @stevesklenka2181 Месяц назад +2

    Bart Kay strikes me as a guy who uses his big voice and big microphone to trumpet to the world that he knows very little about nutrition.

  • @user-lq6xb7nl4x
    @user-lq6xb7nl4x Месяц назад +4

    Love this

  • @jlarson1040
    @jlarson1040 Месяц назад +2

    Never heard so much gaslighting in my life!

  • @karenstanton5405
    @karenstanton5405 Месяц назад +3

    this fella is so rude cutting you off and kept saying what you said was wrong that the studies are not fact. it seems he just wanted to rubbish the plant based diet .

  • @MP-li2ho
    @MP-li2ho Месяц назад +2

    All he’s interested is attacking he’s the one that looks like a fool

  • @carolgacioch8523
    @carolgacioch8523 25 дней назад +1

    Ok BART...when I ate a carnivore diet I had high BP..high glucose fat as a cow , completely a train reck
    Went plant based 100% 5 years ago.. everything went to normal levels...lost "FAT" / weight 110 lbs..I have clear arteries..67 years young and I'm not any RX's...so explain that BART😊

  • @luiscastaneda1982
    @luiscastaneda1982 Месяц назад +3

    Response to anything Bart Kay said should of been so what

  • @renaeselix5648
    @renaeselix5648 Месяц назад +4

    So far I’m only hearing this guy talk over Dr Rogers!!!!! Ridiculous!!!!

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +3

      He doesn't have any real information to support paleo keto, so he just plays games.

  • @GoRodent
    @GoRodent Месяц назад +1

    Dr Rogers he was just baiting you and baiting you the whole time and you never took the bait. I can't believe the self-control you have. I could have never done that. You are such a gentleman and a scholar! I really enjoyed watching you on here control yourself like that. It was totally amazing!

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! At first I hoped the conversation would work towards understanding. Then I saw that he was making stuff up, and lying about other stuff. I realized the whole thing was a farce. So I just smiled. I did make a followup video called "is paleo keto a joke?"

  • @VerticalFreedom
    @VerticalFreedom Месяц назад +2

    Peter the longest living people are the Hunza from the Himalayas! Mostly Vegans with a month of water fasting every year & eating lots of Apricots & their seeds! Hunza women are giving birth at 100 & living as long as ~150+

  • @deborahkelly6247
    @deborahkelly6247 Месяц назад +1

    Never in my life have I see such a rude person.

  • @jorjonzn
    @jorjonzn Месяц назад +2

    Sounds like Bart has a high testosterone level .... reasoning ability not so much ....

  • @Vista384
    @Vista384 Месяц назад

    OMG, I made it to the end. That was pure torture. I can't imagine watching anymore of BK.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад

      Bart is clever & funny, but he never provides any useful health information. He's a shill for the meat industry.

  • @Vista384
    @Vista384 Месяц назад +1

    Peetah, how could you endure this guy?

  • @jimdres7000
    @jimdres7000 Месяц назад +1

    Great interview. Well discussed and controlled by two very knowlegeable and highly intellectual human beings. .

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +13

      Bart is very clever and funny, but he doesn't know anything about nutrition. He makes stuff up and lies. He's a shill for the meat industry.

  • @mabelh7305
    @mabelh7305 Месяц назад +3

    He thinks he's smarter than you, lol.

  • @rodp7803
    @rodp7803 Месяц назад +2

    Has this guy made his bloods public?

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +2

      I've talked about my blood labs. Total cholesterol varies from 90-140. Last time was 93. Serum ferritin about 112.

  • @jasoncollins1134
    @jasoncollins1134 Месяц назад

    @PlantChompers I wonders how you thought this conversation went?

  • @Vista384
    @Vista384 Месяц назад

    I love the projection from this Bart guy.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад

      I initially hoped the interview would be a real conversation. Then when he started lying and making stuff up and not letting me talk, I realized it was a farce. It ended up generating a lot of views with all the followup videos: well over 100k. It was a way for more people to learn about my channel, even though most of them were crazy carnivore types = impulsive, rude, ignorant, etc.

  • @infantofprague
    @infantofprague Месяц назад +2

    He behaves like a big black bear beast . To say he always right . Oh boy lookout!!!!!!!!!! God is about to show whose always right. He may not have any belief in God but God believes in him. He can be a better beast then this you are what you eat. I stopped watching i needed pray for him. YOU LOST ME AT I AM ALWAYS RIGHT. that is sad... the real lock door from inside oh mama mia

  • @carolgacioch8523
    @carolgacioch8523 25 дней назад +1

    Who is this guy..he acts like a DA... Dr Rogers is way smarter than this guy .it's obvious he's out to debunk Rogers
    I'm still on the Rogers team🎉🎉

  • @mabelh7305
    @mabelh7305 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing how you put up with this guy's crap

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +1

      Yes. I initially thought it was going to be a dialogue to work towards understanding diabetes. Then he started making stuff up, and outright lying. I realized the whole thing was a farce, so I smiled. He never provides any useful information. His original video, and the followup videos about generated well over 100,000 views. So, it was a chance for the carnivore crowd to get a glimpse of the civilized world.

  • @BenFisher532017
    @BenFisher532017 23 дня назад

    I dont understand why everything Bart says is condescending even when he doesnt have a point to argue. Very difficult to listen to, im not sure whether theres anything I could possibly agree with because he sounds like such an AH all the time.

  • @infantofprague
    @infantofprague Месяц назад +1

    Dr Brat

  • @karenchapman6126
    @karenchapman6126 Месяц назад +1

    WOW this boy Bart!

  • @karenchapman6126
    @karenchapman6126 Месяц назад +1

    WOW this ( boy ) Bart

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Месяц назад +2

      Yes. He is a clever, funny, barbarian, clown. He puts on a good show, but he doesn't know anything about nutrition. He never says anything useful.

  • @carolgacioch8523
    @carolgacioch8523 25 дней назад

    I can't listen to this guy Bart...I'd like to see his facts...who follows this guy...😂

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  25 дней назад

      Bart is a shill for the meat industry. He never provides any useful information about nutrition and health. Notice that he has sponsors. I do not.

  • @annanzul2862
    @annanzul2862 29 дней назад

    This Bart dude is so annoyingly arrogant. I couldn't make it to the end of the video. He kept talking over you and acting like a" know it all." He doesn't want the truth. That's the problem. ETA: I bet the books behind him are a backdrop screen. 😂

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  29 дней назад +1

      Yes. He's a shill for meat industry. He never provides any useful info. He says epidemiology etc is a joke, b/c all the data shows that paleo keto is a joke.