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Oh, I think this guy Andrew Doyle has me blocked on Twitter for some reason... I guess I don't need to listen to him either. :D Auto-down arrow for this bro-club weirdo.
I'm glad this is being increasingly exposed, but many of us have known the extent of this medical scandal for years, and lost 'friends' and job opportunities as a result of speaking out. I'm just tired.
I love that Blaire White discusses being trans because of childhood trauma as someone belonging to the community. She's very critical of surgeries as they are very likely to limit life expectancy. But at least some surgeons can make money out of these traumatised individuals and use them as lab rats. It's just sad.
I haven’t had a chance to go through everything but what I have read and heard about so far is jaw dropping. It doesn’t matter how long you read about this topic it never ceases to amaze me just how crazy this all is. Looking forward to the Podcast Andrew(s)!
I definitely had gender dysphoria when I was a child, but i never told anyone and grew up as a tomboy and then a ladette. Now I have 3 kids and I'm in a heterosexual relationship. I know i would definitely have been a victim of this cult if I had grown up in these times and that thought is TERRIFYING as I'm perfectly fine with being female and having children, breastfeeding them, going through 3 pregnancies and births etc has been the best experiences of my life. I have also discovered late in life that I'm autistic. For me I believe the gender dysphoria is related to autism and having more of a typically male brain. We have to stop this madness and abuse 😢
With all of the different chemicals that are in our bodies these days, including medicines, chemtrails, fertilizers, pesticides… whatever, our bodies are not the same as they were 100 years ago
Autism is definitely very much overrepresented in trans-identifying people. Dr Az Hakeem has documented this. He’s counseled hundreds of trans-identifying patients himself.
as an adult of 5 plus decades you get to look back on how you thought through your life & how much your beliefs & attitudes change..... all of the time..... I can remember looking back in my thirties thinking thank god I grew out of those childhood views where you think you are going to want to be or do something forever......when you get much older you realise you have no idea of what forever is or how long your life is going to last .......maybe adults should stop projecting their own fantasies on kids & realise that none of them know what they really want & to remember to 'first do no harm'
I binned that rainbow flag years ago. Won't have anything to do with it. I am just gay and thankfully that is nothing special anymore and certainly not something to have "Pride" parades about.
Trans issues are a major problem, not only for biological women, but also the gay Community. It is undermining all their struggles for the rights they have had to fight and in some cases die for. It seems like the trans agenda is to crap over everything, so many brave people have had to fight for.
It has gone down hill for gay men and lesbians due to the constant alignment with TQ+ and being dragged backed into the same arguments we had already won!
@@nealorr5086 gay men especially were never criminalised for who they loved, but for having sex with other men; in fact platonic love was used as a defence in criminal cases. I'm not aware that any one has been criminalised for being Aro , Ace, gender fluid, or non binary etc
And what next imprison gays and make birth control illegal? Peterson is "greasing the wheel" for that to happen legislatively. 98% of us who transition are happy and we don't need to be saved from ourselves. Last year he said adolescents can't consent and now crazy people can't consent and anyone who is gender dysphoric in Peterson's eyes is crazy. Furthermore he doesn't want medical professionals involved so what will happen to the millions of people who are in the middle to transition or need maintenance medications. Invitro fertilization and SSRI's as well as vasectomies, birth control, vaccines, and tubal ligation are all next on the chopping block. Peterson has done videos mentioning how birth control is harming women and how they should not be able to decide when to start families. He furthermore thinks that women in the workforce is an experiment. Total BS intellectual con-man.
it isn't being bigoted to talk about these issues it is only bigoted if we dont want to listen to others or if we treat others in a harsh manner ....many people who accuse someone of being bigoted are the actual bigots when push comes to shove
Exactly! Being gay or lesbian is generally not considered anything other than normal. Frankly, I don't need to know anyone's sexual orientation unless it's illegal.
At one time there was a peculiar view that gay men were also automatically child molesters. Thankfully we have moved on. But now gays and lesbians are being lumped in with a group of people who advocate the mutilation of children. From this pov I can see that the trans community is very harmful to gay people.
Completely NUTS for there to be a question about what is a woman!!! We are the same that we've always been, simply a female adult human. Stop the madness!!!
@@bigfriki Oh so now we shift argument from woman to female (moving goal post)? Not watching the video. I don't need to define a female its already defined by biologist.
@@bigfrikithe female is the only sex that is typically able to produce ova. For either surgical or congenital reasons there are some females who don't have complete reproductive organs. They also carry XX chromosomes, whereas a male carries XY chromosomes. And your ignorance shows through by you needing some kind of explanation for what a female is. Why aren't you asking what is a male? It's just as inane. The question defies the possibility of one actually having a brain or having learned anything in their entire existence. Intersex people have a mixture of chromosomes and reproductive organs and they are the only ones can really choose how they want to live within their unique bodies. All the rest of us are born how we're born and we'll die how we are born even if we do stupid surgical things to try and alter our sex.
I’m a gay man. If this stuff had been around when I was young, I can see how easily I’d buy into it. I’m 38 now so I can view it through a rational point of view. Young girls are so suggestible and seemingly immune to logic that they now make up the bulk of transitioning youth. This malpractice is on the same scale as the thalidomide scandal.
A yucky subject as a teenager I had week long periods and my cycle was only 15-17days which means over the space of a year instead of having 13:periods I would have 26,I had severe anaemia and I felt tired all the time,I felt like a freak,dirty,unfeminine,they caused me to hate myself,If I had been offered a hysterectomy I definately would have had one .
@marcusaxel3425 I'm so confused 15 years ago it felt like we we're breaking all gender stereotypes and allowing children to like whatever they like and be who they are and now we're telling them if they like the wrong gender stereotype things they have to get surgery? what is wrong with humanity.
The absolute failing of the NHS, the governments and the journalists of the world blows my mind. When you look into this stuff it's so blatantly obvious that it's abuse and medical malpractice
Never trust the following: politicians, doctors & journalists. They’re all puppets in the pockets of those with the most money, which in this case happens to be big pharma.
Thank you for having Andrew Doyle on, one of my favorite people. This subject is incredibly important and a lot of young people 's lives have been destroyed by this insane ideology. This is not anti trans, This is for sanity, children, ethical behavior . There can be not one podcast/ interview too much that debunks this madness.
Cutting body parts off,sterilising and causing deaths and ill health off vulnerable young children is not acceptable at all. Children are beautiful to their mothers and fathers they are never made wrong and to tell little children this is a heartbreaking thought and must also be soul destroying to a child. I believe doctors should first do no harm and parents defend their wonderful children and do no harm,embrace differences and let them be children
Even if a lot of people were aware of a lot of the WPATH details before the leakage of the Files, it is good that more people are becoming aware. The more publicity and public knowledge about this the better.
Puberty is tough. Start supporting kids to grow into strong resilient adults by teaching them "life is tough" and this is what you need to learn: resilience, not escape.
In recent months some of our top mps kneeled to the idioligy, I wonder if they will carry on seeing they were so so right then, or apologise for there utter stupidly.
This was a great conversation. AD has integrity and I watch everything he’s got to say. My daughter is a lesbian and called a bigot because she doesn’t want to date someone with a penis. I appreciate AD for using correct pronouns, it’s so important! In my humble opinion being able to chose your own pronouns and insisting other people do too was the gateway to this hell.
My middle daughter, 8 yrs. Old at the time said she wanted to be a boy back in 2011. I said, no ofc and that was the end of that 😅 she's so glad I'm traditional pretty much and didn't allow it. She just had my second granddaughter ❤
I also have to point out that she was a tomboy and I guess I kinda was growing up as well. I don't really even believe we were tomboys in my opinion but country girls because we're from Southern Alabama and we were just involved with generally male activities. Like, hunting, fishing, sports and cars. I enjoy racing and mud riding and I just got into fixing up or getting pretty as I'm a typical female in that regard but I never stopped enjoying the typical male activities either. So what I believe is just personality is now conflated to wanting to be a different sex. It's idiotic really.
@@CandyKG28 100% I'm 55 yrs old, and growing up it was perfectly normal for some girls to be tomboys, and some boys to be effeminate. Absolutely normal. I don't like the way modern society pushes girls & boys who are not strictly the norm, to think they 'must' be trans and need to 'change gender' even though that is absolutely impossible to do anyway.
If good and common sense ever prevail again, this treatment should be recorded in the history books as a Mengele level crime against humanity. Mutilation of anyone is abhorrent but for children it’s in an especially appalling class all by itself.
I agree. About a hundred years ago, prepubescent boys were castrated in order to feminize them, and keep their higher pitched voices intact. This was done with the consent of the child and family. Thankfully we stopped this practice because we realized how morally repugnant the practice was. Now we have people trying to tell us this practice is really okay, and in fact MEDICALLY NECESSARY. I wonder how the folks a hundred years from now will view us and this insanity.
we need to start speaking in clear language it isn't gender reassignment of minors it is mutilation & sterilisation & any adult advocating that this is good for a minor child is a monster at worst & totally deranged at best
Very fond of both of you! Heretics here and Andrew Doyle on Substack, thank you and thank heavens for intelligent men who provide content for free as I am a pensioner and can’t afford to pay.
Why don't you try thinking for YOURSELF, instead of being influenced, and led around by the nose by others? BTW, I am NOT having a go at you. I spent YEARS being influenced, and led, by others without even realising it. Not any more though!
@@bobjames6622 So you're not having a go at me? I guess these were just some friendy suggestions? Well, gosh, I am SO very grateful! What would I do without you out there giving me unsolicited advice?
@@ninagohlsson6053I've reread your original comment a few times I'm at a complete loss to how anyone can accuse you of not thinking of yourself. There's nothing there to give an indication of anything other than that you like listening to good speakers. Was their comment even intended for you? Lol.
This really concerns me. The jury is still cogitating with regard to the trans issue. If gender dysphoria is a neurological and/or psychological malady, then I feel some sympathy for this exceptionally small minority of people. The way in which it is dominating my media feed, that our likely, next Prime minister, even struggles to define what a woman is, when there are so many other fractious and pressing issues, that seem to be relegated and dismissed, fills me with a morbid dread.
I don't feel sympathy, for many of them it's simply a case of watching too much porn - particularly 'sissy hypno porn'. Their main psychological malady appears to be narcissism.
It was a rare mental health issue (still is imo) until activists took over and pushed it to be de-medicalized & relabeled it as "E for everyone!", and they did it to be unnecessarily inclusionary & because being labeled as "mentally ill" can hurt feelings (how f'n stupid).
Andrew Doyle is one of our National Treasures. My Alice B Toklas 'genius recognition bell' went off the second I learned he was behind Titania. I adore you Andrew Doyle-- you've gone from strength to strength. What character. Never obnoxious, shrill, loud, cruel or any of that. And best of all, so sooooooo funny. GENIUS. 😍💘
Peter Schweizer has a book named "Blood Money", where he names the Chinese millionaires who are investing in the trans industry in America, where they do not live and he says that they also do not do the same in China.
The purpose is the complete demoralisatiom of all the countries in the Anglosphere, resulting in the destruction of Western civilisation. See also the Chinese-originated American version of Tik-Tok, which is not allowed in China. China's version of Tik-Tok teaches kids advanced calculus.
They've been doing it in many other medical "industries" as well. This is not a new concept where doctors push patients to undergo certain treatments or surgeries, only for their own monetary gain.
China is extremely aggressive. They're sending a ton of fentanyl not literally tons I don't think, but enough to kill literally every person in the US to the US. I bet they're doing the same thing in the EU. And the UK.
Yep, it’s the same in Canada where you’re forced to subscribe to CBC and CTV with Bell or Roger’s cable. People are just cutting their cord and getting their actual journalism from Podcasts.
Our goverment is now trying to charge us extra for streaming services because no one is paying tv licence. The streaming services said NO to their proposal.
Nice few moments of banter between the two Andrews, have to say I love Andrew Gold's interviewing style, he is so chill, deserves way more subs than he has. - Yours truly, Jack.
As a gay dude I totally understand how the homophobia is driving this transing of gay boys. Growing up people constantly called me a girl-I’m thankful I didn’t have the medical establishment to prey on me and take advantage of my internalized homophobia.
Amazing that the WPATH files issue is being ignored by mainstream media, not a word on our dear ABC in Australia.I was born in 1947, not many years before that there was a doctor in Europe performing medical experiments on children - it was classed as a barbaric crime. Fast forward 70 years and medical experiments on kids is "Care" as in gender-affirming care.
Exactly. Thats why all this is happening. Going to be great to watch the politicians in office at the moment have to cover for all the medical agencies so they cant get sued. Media companies will also be able to be sued also. Very fun to watch
Yep & they deserve to go to prison too. They’re destroying kids abilities to ever have kids, to have an orgasm so they can’t pair bond with someone, & so many health problems & chronic pain issues from these surgeries, especially bottom surgeries. What they’ve done is pure evil.
I've heard lawyers weigh in on this possibility and they find it unlikely. They state that the "patient" has given consent and has also signed a waver that most people who undergo and form of plastic surgery acknowledging that a successful outcome can not be guarenteed.
It reminds me of the American mania for lobotomies in the 1930s to the 1950s. JFK had a sister who was forced to have one. She spent the rest of her life as a mentally aged 4 year old. It was mostly women who were forced to undergo that medical intervention
Pls stop calling them women. Youre aligning with their ideology. They are transsexual men/men who are transsexual. If you want to differentiate due to how theyve muddied the waters call them dudes/blokes/guys.
It's not just the BBC it's the other cheek of the same rear end The Guardian. Which if was not the house paper of the chattering classes of North London, would have gone out of business years ago.
The human body has one chance to go through puberty and become an adult. To prevent that is criminal. There's no reversal or second chance. That's a biological and genetic fact.
It won't be. The radical trans ideologues have somehow gotten this crap anointed as a "Social Justice" issue and as such, questioned only by hateful bigots. Journalists and professionals who do doubt the dogma have learned from the experience of others to keep quiet to avoid the wrath of a mob.
Belief is arriving at conclusions in the absence of adequate evidence or reason - Judging them good, bad, true or false is judging a cow on it's ability to fly. It's such judgements that deny us the opportunity to testa. new hypothesis - or even what we previously held as true by censoring the discussion on it. Science for instance does not have a mechanism for determining truth - and can only tell us where our hypothesis doesn't work, needs refining or replacing - and in some instances - provides no predictive value over future events (basically what science is used for). All science progress in history has literally replaced previous models and in some cases - yes, beliefs with hypotheses that have been repeatedly tested for whether they provide useful predictive value. If you combine censorship with any epistemological process you only get politics, not science.
Trans widows, the women divorced now from men who suddenly ideat female personae are supppoesed to go aong. Stay at your own risk, in the data of 57 trans widows I've colfecteed, we find very sad sad data, of 57 trans widows who tried to keep the Family together; We divorced in order to keep our sanity. As for family life after, the defamations begin. From husband and his several therapists, it's a slug fest. Motherhood no longer exists.
What a treat on a rainy Wednesday, Andrew Doyle is a gent. I was so sorry to hear about his twitter experience. A minority of gc feminists are truly horrible people. Thank you Andrew for standing up for my rights as a woman.
I think it might be due to society having a dick for a brain, therefore any difficulties the youngsters go through, which are numerous and of a variety of origins, is put down to some form of inner sexual conflict, and once the seed has been sowed, time and cognitive bias does the rest. Basically, you feel a bit down in the dumps, because the nice lady next door died, and six months later you're up for a sex change. (slightly exaggerating obviously)
Anyone else not comfortable with the labelling of (young) children as having any kind of s--ual orientation? I think this feeds into and flows from the over s--ualisation of all children which we should be resisting. It also burdens them with adult stuff that they shouldn't be concerned about til they're old enough to fully comprehend. Let kids be kids and not mini adults.
Would a doctor cut off my healthy feet , if I asked? No! So why cut off a penis, healthy breasts? True perspective. Such requests come from disturbed minds. It's really so obvious! An excellent interview, but so very hard to listen to. I couldn't finish it.
I asked a doctor to take out my left kidney, because i could no longer cope with the pain of renal colic, every single day for over a year. My argument was, i can live with one kidney, but i can no longer live with the pain. He refused to remove my kidney, because it was still working. A perfectly working penis, that doesn't cause physical pain, will be cut off, if you ask the right doctor.
The moment at 22:15 where he says that as a kid the bullies at school would call him a girl and now it’s medical professionals - clip that, it’s a perfect short. Perfect summary of this insanity
Exactly! This is where a great deal of the "dysphoria " originates in the first place. Which is why "affirming" someone's wrong belief about themselves just makes the bullies win.
I’m so sorry you got so much abuse from extremists on ‘our’ side Andrew, completely unacceptable. You are one of many important voices on this issue and I’m so grateful that you are getting this out to the public.
As a woman who finds the idea of women's liberation from male violence appealing, I was sensitive about men criticising feminists. But I had to leave feminist spaces because of the homophobia and lesbophobia from my fellow women. Ironically fuelling the internalised homophobia that leaves people susceptible to conversion therapy and the transgenderism 'gender critical' feminists claim to be critical of. Keep on calling it out, Mr Doyle
It breaks your heart to see instances of teenagers mostly girls seeking "transition" because they cannot accept their emerging same sex attraction. If that doesn't prove the trans ideology is the modern iteration of the discredited conversion therapy!
@joce11The problem with “feminist” is that the word itself has become completely debased through decades of misuse. It means utterly different things to different people, even between different people who use it to describe themselves.
The worst sexism I've experienced in my life has come from "feminists". They are consumed by a victim-mentality and will lash out at any woman who dares to think differently to them.
They’ve been silent about women’s treatment in Islam. Oh yeah and men in women’s sports and dressing rooms. They did wear pink pussy hats when Donald Trump was elected though.
I'm sick of men saying that women wanted the trans in our bathrooms,sport etc,actually no one asked us.A small bunch of stupid "intellectual women "who deep down are too scared to stand up to a man did this..The rest of us have bills to pay,children to support and are desperate to keep our jobs which is why we have been silent,but NO MORE.
Brilliant interview, which I enjoyed tremendously. I'm grateful for Andrew's diligent work on trans issues. I am a "gender critical" woman, not belonging to any particular camp, who feels very passionately about these issues, and I am genuinely concerned about the erosion in whatever meagre gains we have made that can ensue from a lax approach to "preferred pronouns." At the same time, I am absolutely appalled at the kind of disrespect and abuse that Andrew has experienced. Thinking, hoping, that surely the release of the WPATH files will help to break open the truth about so called trans medicine - still waiting...
James Lindsay is near the mark when he calls it Gnosticism. The perceived importance of transcending the "fallen" human body outweighs any considerations such as science.
Great episode, Andrew! I'm a big fan of Andrew Doyle, really liked his book The New Puritans. Some great book recommendations from him at the end as well. P.S. I'm so pleased to see this channel getting close to 100k subscribers!
@philiprobertson1102 at the very beginning. Bisexuals exist. We are not a phase between gay and straight. We are genuinely attracted to both sexes, no matter that long-term relationships may have us presenting gay or straight, we are still bi.
That’s what needs to happen, remove TQ+, because what will be next? Are they going to have a group who comes out identifying as cats and dogs, and people will be expected to go along with it?
I really like Andrew Doyle and I hope that he wasn't referring to Kellie Jay Keen when he mentioned the authoritarian gender critical people. I know that she has criticised Andrew harshly for using fake pronouns, however, I do admire her for holding the line and not surrendering our language. To be more specific she refuses to use fake pronouns and makes no exceptions. I respect that.
@@Noblebird02 Of course. From what I have understood from her she would never use homophobic slurs and it's just a case of a disagreement on the use of pronouns. I was just clarifying that I don't believe that she and her followers (I count myself amongst them) are authoritarian. We just want language as well as boundaries to be upheld.
@@noraanderson3503 I think there needs more precision in language; though I like both Matt Walsh, Dave Chappelle and anybody else who opposes trans ideology on conservative/religious grounds, cannot be described as gender critical, they could be more accurately described at trans critical, though this is a spectrum with a lot of nuance: Matt Walsh is more conservative than Chapelle, but wouldn't use homophobic slurs, Chapelle's position is closer to the gender critical one than Matt Walsh. Then within the gender critical movement there is an enormous spectrum of people: Graham Linehan and both orthodox Jewish and Muslim we women who don't want to be bullied into sharing female spaces with men. Then there are Helen Joyce (libertarian but feminist), then economically left but heterosexual like Kellie and Birdy Rose who tend support free speech, there are lesbians (who have been fighting this struggle for longer than anyone) and detransitioners like Shape Shifter, but there also a small number of gender critical women who are anti-natalist, Marxist& authoritarian. Whilst they can be very insightful about the nature of the patriarchy and have much to offer, they don't have an especially rounded world view.
Andrew Doyle is such a great spokesman and so interesting to listen to. He got me into reading books by Forrest Reid whom I'd never even heard of. A magical evocation of childhood and adolescence. I've just ordered another one online.😅
Fantastic listening. Totally enthralled. Thank you Andrew for creating this channel I love it. As for your guest it’s bloody scary what we are doing to children. Even though I was desperate to have children I couldn’t, and now in a way I’m so please of this, because my grandchildren would be growing up in this environment.
Forgive me for saying it, but where have you been? This is the major point of controversy wrt 'gender-affirming care', and it's been going on all over the world, and still is.
@carltaylor6452 yes i'm aware of that, obviously, however the issue and argument in response is these practitioners hiding behind the "life saving treatment" line putting the burden of proof onto those like us who can see how wrong it is. However now there are leaks of records that categorically show that the doctors were aware that they SHOULD have had consent, i.e. they were not thinking of these treatments as a life saving intervention, then that puts the burden of proof back onto those individuals to explain their actions. It should turn into a rout. As it hasnt i think this goes beyo d the bbc, which we knew but i think that this is the most honest and legitimate reason to hit the streets in protest ive heard of in a decade at least.
CHILDREN can’t consent though. And definitely not a child and their parents when the doctors DO NOT disclose the REALITY of these mutilation malpractice.
Really hard to consent on something that claims THIS, but all the science says THAT. Really hard to consent when we are gaslighted and LIED to about the reality of “gender affirming CARE” see? That’s NOT what it is. They use language to confuse. It’s SEXUAL BINARY MUTILATION/ALTERATION. the whole movement encourages us to “accept ALL people no matter WHAT for who they are (even if they are criminals, pedophiles, clearly insane etc)” Yet if your “dysphoric” or don’t fit neatly into the stereotypes they claim don’t matter, they FORCE you to then NOT accept yourself and mutilate yourself…
Great interview, Andrew! I hope you interview Genevieve Gluck. If I did the research she does to expose what goes on behind this movement I think I would be clinically insane.
Interesting that you were saying that you weren’t comparing it to Hitler while I was busy thinking that this was exactly like it was with Germans being convinced by Hitler, and the masses just then blind to what was happening. So my mind was definitely comparing all this to the Hitler Years in Germany.
Mmm and the 15minute cities,sounds like ghettos to me...the WEF is fully behind this movement,very scarey.Klaus Schwab wants to creat half robot half human trans beings and crossing human DNA with animals...sick stuff.
I have 'cancelled' GB News due to their attitude to Tommy Robinson so I'm glad you have covered this subject. Shellenburger did fantastic coverage. I hope this subject gets more coverage.
I unfollowed them on Fbk becauuse they kept banging on about Meghan and Harry and I just dont give a sh1t and it was some weird obsession they had. I like tuning in for Andrew and some other bits and pieces that are relevant to my political interests. I dont watch it as a general.
Thank you so much, both of you, for having this great conversation. I salute your courage and dedication and would be great if you kept up this important topic.
this is what happens when they close down conversation, much less debate; when they cancel you for merely asking about where this is coming from, much less questioning it. when the universities get captured ideologically. when the academic journals become corrupted. when they scream at you for not changing at a pace fast enough to satisfy their ‘demands’. it’s a dangerous way to try to effect change: one, because they might be wrong; two because they are not changing anyone’s mind, they are just forcing people to go underground. people generally avoid conflict, and will tolerate others be no matter how weird their views are. but once they start acting rabid, and threatening other’s careers, or existence (far more than trans people perceive or claim to be threatened), and threatening their kids, then they are inviting pushback. it’s stupid that they would expect otherwise. it’s not the kind of pushback that will tell them where the limit is and stop them after they have made what they perceive as ‘progress’. it’s the kind of pushback that will roll back even the ‘progress’ they have made, the kind of pushback that will make them regret they ever chose to raise these issues, much less fight about them. many of us have tried to warn them, only to be shut up, or shut out. now, it’s time to let the chips fall where they may. laws will change. some professors will be fired; many if not all will lose tenure. there will be costs to society of this absurd foray into fringe thinking.
@@shabbykat273 lesbian here, we most definitely are. A lot of the younger ones stay quiet or conform to this gender ideology insanity, but most older lesbians are tired of it.
What is really disturbing in all of this, is that it is accepted that children are thinking about s attraction in the first place. In a normal world, the parents should be investigated as to why their child has got these ideas in their heads. As none of this stuff entered my head as a child, i asked my friends and they never had these thoughts either, with the exception of one gay friend. Also another big issue is that some people dont know that love isn't exclusive to sexual relationships, and neither do they know the difference between love and lust. It would solve alot of problems if people didnt parade their preferences down the centre of a street and call it love. Just saying.
Iv always known that i was gay from a very very young age and definitely had some sort of gender dysphoria/gender confusion. Thankfully i grew out of that confusion and 100% know now that im a man who happens to like men and couldnt imagine being transitioned at a young age by these head cases, i couldnt imagine doing that at a very young age then waking up one day asking why have i mutilated myself which is what they are doing! Alot of these young people being transitioned are definitely going to grow up to regret it. I believe this is a form of population control
It is eugenics check out how the nazis discussed different paths on how to eliminate a population. Yes these people pushing this movement and funding it are as bad as nazis they are what they claim they are against
Dissident Dialogues Andrew, I pulled up your episode with Winston Marshall. The description - Launching a Battle of Ideas sounds - like an understatement. Betting it will get pretty loud in there. I would love to go but that just isn't going to happen. Surely this event will be recorded. I'm hoping someone will pick it up and televise this at some point.
Wonderful discussion! The original quote seems unclear, but it's from George Bernard Shaw: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
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Oh, I think this guy Andrew Doyle has me blocked on Twitter for some reason... I guess I don't need to listen to him either. :D Auto-down arrow for this bro-club weirdo.
I'm glad this is being increasingly exposed, but many of us have known the extent of this medical scandal for years, and lost 'friends' and job opportunities as a result of speaking out.
I'm just tired.
I love that Blaire White discusses being trans because of childhood trauma as someone belonging to the community. She's very critical of surgeries as they are very likely to limit life expectancy. But at least some surgeons can make money out of these traumatised individuals and use them as lab rats.
It's just sad.
I haven’t had a chance to go through everything but what I have read and heard about so far is jaw dropping. It doesn’t matter how long you read about this topic it never ceases to amaze me just how crazy this all is.
Looking forward to the Podcast Andrew(s)!
I think that anyone believing this or the carnivore way of eating are conspiracies: need to wake up FAST.
All these are real.
I definitely had gender dysphoria when I was a child, but i never told anyone and grew up as a tomboy and then a ladette. Now I have 3 kids and I'm in a heterosexual relationship. I know i would definitely have been a victim of this cult if I had grown up in these times and that thought is TERRIFYING as I'm perfectly fine with being female and having children, breastfeeding them, going through 3 pregnancies and births etc has been the best experiences of my life.
I have also discovered late in life that I'm autistic. For me I believe the gender dysphoria is related to autism and having more of a typically male brain.
We have to stop this madness and abuse 😢
With all of the different chemicals that are in our bodies these days, including medicines, chemtrails, fertilizers, pesticides… whatever, our bodies are not the same as they were 100 years ago
They are trying to steal our souls in our minds, I choose to stay with unconditional love
Autism is definitely very much overrepresented in trans-identifying people. Dr Az Hakeem has documented this. He’s counseled hundreds of trans-identifying patients himself.
Did you ever struggle with your sexuality at all?
as an adult of 5 plus decades you get to look back on how you thought through your life & how much your beliefs & attitudes change..... all of the time..... I can remember looking back in my thirties thinking thank god I grew out of those childhood views where you think you are going to want to be or do something forever......when you get much older you realise you have no idea of what forever is or how long your life is going to last .......maybe adults should stop projecting their own fantasies on kids & realise that none of them know what they really want & to remember to 'first do no harm'
I binned that rainbow flag years ago. Won't have anything to do with it. I am just gay and thankfully that is nothing special anymore and certainly not something to have "Pride" parades about.
I believe a lot of this cult is based on attention seeking
Much of the cult is explicitly based on hatred of homosexuality and the wish to castrate gay boys based on that hatred.@@Freewoman76
Pride has been co-opted by communist civilization haters with small hats....
Same here, LGB✂️QT+ nonsense.
I totally agree ❤
We need more gay people speaking up, thank you for this conversation Mr Doyle.
Mr Menno.
MrMenno - gay of the year.
Gays against groomers
LGB Alliance
It's absolutely important that gay men and women step forward to stop this ideology.
Trans issues are a major problem, not only for biological women, but also the gay Community. It is undermining all their struggles for the rights they have had to fight and in some cases die for. It seems like the trans agenda is to crap over everything, so many brave people have had to fight for.
It has gone down hill for gay men and lesbians due to the constant alignment with TQ+ and being dragged backed into the same arguments we had already won!
Douglas Murray gives a brilliant take down of the alphabet+ lot.
The TQ hijacked it on purpose knowing full well it has nothing to do with LGB.
I would say it's not even the same argument. Gay and Lesbian are are arguments about who you love. These are arguments about what you are.
@@nealorr5086 gay men especially were never criminalised for who they loved, but for having sex with other men; in fact platonic love was used as a defence in criminal cases. I'm not aware that any one has been criminalised for being Aro , Ace, gender fluid, or non binary etc
@@nigelfrench8894 So you agree with what I am saying or are you conflating "who you are" with "what you are"?
Jordan Peterson amongst others predicted exactly this. 50% of the population knew this was wrong but were called bigots when they talked about it.
And what next imprison gays and make birth control illegal? Peterson is "greasing the wheel" for that to happen legislatively. 98% of us who transition are happy and we don't need to be saved from ourselves. Last year he said adolescents can't consent and now crazy people can't consent and anyone who is gender dysphoric in Peterson's eyes is crazy. Furthermore he doesn't want medical professionals involved so what will happen to the millions of people who are in the middle to transition or need maintenance medications. Invitro fertilization and SSRI's as well as vasectomies, birth control, vaccines, and tubal ligation are all next on the chopping block. Peterson has done videos mentioning how birth control is harming women and how they should not be able to decide when to start families. He furthermore thinks that women in the workforce is an experiment. Total BS intellectual con-man.
it isn't being bigoted to talk about these issues it is only bigoted if we dont want to listen to others or if we treat others in a harsh manner ....many people who accuse someone of being bigoted are the actual bigots when push comes to shove
@helen9289 absolutely. I've been in a month long social media battle debating them. It's chaos
I don't understand people's fear of being called names by other people that are clearly into some kind of emotional distress
I'd say more than 50%...
I’ve emailed the BBC and they haven’t even bothered acknowledging my email. They are so guilty.
I haven't had a tv license for 5 years , i refuse to forced to finance a biased ideology that i am opposed to
What do you mean 'haven't even'?. The BBC almost nrver responds.
Anybody paying for a tv license at this point is supporting child abuse
Maybe it requires some form of petition?!
Exactly! Being gay or lesbian is generally not considered anything other than normal. Frankly, I don't need to know anyone's sexual orientation unless it's illegal.
As a lesbian I feel really proud when fellow homosexuals speak up against this garbage! 🗑️ It harms us most!
How?
At one time there was a peculiar view that gay men were also automatically child molesters. Thankfully we have moved on. But now gays and lesbians are being lumped in with a group of people who advocate the mutilation of children. From this pov I can see that the trans community is very harmful to gay people.
@@fralanasko2900 Gay people are being lumped in with a community who advocate child mutilation.
@@fralanasko2900 Fetishistic straight men claiming they're now lesbians.
Fellow homosexuals? why does that matter?
Completely NUTS for there to be a question about what is a woman!!! We are the same that we've always been, simply a female adult human. Stop the madness!!!
I just don't read all the comments
Some time because I don't want to read it, usually because I just get distracted and forget to look at it
And if you say this stuff in Scotland it could get you arrested.
And what exactly is "female" to you? Like, what does it mean? Also, how would you explain this: ruclips.net/video/8QScpDGqwsQ/видео.html
@@bigfriki Oh so now we shift argument from woman to female (moving goal post)? Not watching the video. I don't need to define a female its already defined by biologist.
@@bigfrikithe female is the only sex that is typically able to produce ova. For either surgical or congenital reasons there are some females who don't have complete reproductive organs. They also carry XX chromosomes, whereas a male carries XY chromosomes. And your ignorance shows through by you needing some kind of explanation for what a female is. Why aren't you asking what is a male? It's just as inane. The question defies the possibility of one actually having a brain or having learned anything in their entire existence. Intersex people have a mixture of chromosomes and reproductive organs and they are the only ones can really choose how they want to live within their unique bodies. All the rest of us are born how we're born and we'll die how we are born even if we do stupid surgical things to try and alter our sex.
Exposing vulnerable children to this ideology is abuse…..those responsible should be in jail…😡😡😡
it is abuse on the Josef Mengele level; it is horrifying what is going on
I think jail is the kind option.
I believe the conservative dictatorships have been paying people to promote this.
I’m a gay man. If this stuff had been around when I was young, I can see how easily I’d buy into it. I’m 38 now so I can view it through a rational point of view. Young girls are so suggestible and seemingly immune to logic that they now make up the bulk of transitioning youth. This malpractice is on the same scale as the thalidomide scandal.
A yucky subject as a teenager I had week long periods and my cycle was only 15-17days which means over the space of a year instead of having 13:periods I would have 26,I had severe anaemia and I felt tired all the time,I felt like a freak,dirty,unfeminine,they caused me to hate myself,If I had been offered a hysterectomy I definately would have had one .
@@yvonnelas2969 Not really.
Doctors put kids on hormones today like there are no drawbacks.
I feel many in our age range feel the same.❤
@marcusaxel3425 I'm so confused 15 years ago it felt like we we're breaking all gender stereotypes and allowing children to like whatever they like and be who they are and now we're telling them if they like the wrong gender stereotype things they have to get surgery? what is wrong with humanity.
The absolute failing of the NHS, the governments and the journalists of the world blows my mind. When you look into this stuff it's so blatantly obvious that it's abuse and medical malpractice
same with the cvd jab
Never trust the following: politicians, doctors & journalists. They’re all puppets in the pockets of those with the most money, which in this case happens to be big pharma.
Thank you for having Andrew Doyle on, one of my favorite people. This subject is incredibly important and a lot of young people 's lives have been destroyed by this insane ideology. This is not anti trans, This is for sanity, children, ethical behavior . There can be not one podcast/ interview too much that debunks this madness.
Cutting body parts off,sterilising and causing deaths and ill health off vulnerable young children is not acceptable at all. Children are beautiful to their mothers and fathers they are never made wrong and to tell little children this is a heartbreaking thought and must also be soul destroying to a child. I believe doctors should first do no harm and parents defend their wonderful children and do no harm,embrace differences and let them be children
We established that already 80 years ago when the Nazis killed or sterilized people they deemed unworthy for reproduction, that that's immoral.
It's horrific
Exactly! How can you consent to these procedures when you don't even know what a cell is! It's crazy!
Andrew Doyle is an absolute gem. Love listening to him.
Even if a lot of people were aware of a lot of the WPATH details before the leakage of the Files, it is good that more people are becoming aware. The more publicity and public knowledge about this the better.
Puberty is tough. Start supporting kids to grow into strong resilient adults by teaching them "life is tough" and this is what you need to learn: resilience, not escape.
Children cannot consent. If you can't define 'woman' properly you have no business being near children.
In recent months some of our top mps kneeled to the idioligy, I wonder if they will carry on seeing they were so so right then, or apologise for there utter stupidly.
This was a great conversation. AD has integrity and I watch everything he’s got to say. My daughter is a lesbian and called a bigot because she doesn’t want to date someone with a penis. I appreciate AD for using correct pronouns, it’s so important! In my humble opinion being able to chose your own pronouns and insisting other people do too was the gateway to this hell.
When my Auntie was 6, she said 'Mum I think I'm a boy', and my Gran said 'well you're not' and there was the end of that bollocks.
My middle daughter, 8 yrs. Old at the time said she wanted to be a boy back in 2011. I said, no ofc and that was the end of that 😅 she's so glad I'm traditional pretty much and didn't allow it. She just had my second granddaughter ❤
I also have to point out that she was a tomboy and I guess I kinda was growing up as well. I don't really even believe we were tomboys in my opinion but country girls because we're from Southern Alabama and we were just involved with generally male activities. Like, hunting, fishing, sports and cars. I enjoy racing and mud riding and I just got into fixing up or getting pretty as I'm a typical female in that regard but I never stopped enjoying the typical male activities either. So what I believe is just personality is now conflated to wanting to be a different sex. It's idiotic really.
@@CandyKG28 100%
I'm 55 yrs old, and growing up it was perfectly normal for some girls to be tomboys, and some boys to be effeminate.
Absolutely normal.
I don't like the way modern society pushes girls & boys who are not strictly the norm, to think they 'must' be trans and need to 'change gender' even though that is absolutely impossible to do anyway.
At least the nhs in England have now banned pubity blockers for children
Indeed, but Labour , the UKs furthest peft Party, and most pro trans, are about to whitewash the next general election.
not really at all. They've just pushed it out of central office.
Same with the Tavistock closing the big one in London but quietly opening 6-8 smaller ones around the country for easier access.
If good and common sense ever prevail again, this treatment should be recorded in the history books as a Mengele level crime against humanity. Mutilation of anyone is abhorrent but for children it’s in an especially appalling class all by itself.
More than a medical crime - it is one prong of the W*ke revolution's attack on Western Civilisation: race being the worst of all.
Commins sense is an oxymoron.
I agree. About a hundred years ago, prepubescent boys were castrated in order to feminize them, and keep their higher pitched voices intact. This was done with the consent of the child and family. Thankfully we stopped this practice because we realized how morally repugnant the practice was. Now we have people trying to tell us this practice is really okay, and in fact MEDICALLY NECESSARY. I wonder how the folks a hundred years from now will view us and this insanity.
we need to start speaking in clear language it isn't gender reassignment of minors it is mutilation & sterilisation & any adult advocating that this is good for a minor child is a monster at worst & totally deranged at best
@@pamelablume1637
One hundred years from now will view this practice as insane
I find it amazing that so many news media sites ignore such an important issue - who is suppressing this? Well done, Andrew and Andrew.
BBC guilty by its silence.
Trust your instinct on how this feels. If it feels evil, it’s evil.
Very fond of both of you! Heretics here and Andrew Doyle on Substack, thank you and thank heavens for intelligent men who provide content for free as I am a pensioner and can’t afford to pay.
You really are ticking off virtually everyone on my list of favourite thinkers. So glad you started this channel, Andrew!
Why don't you try thinking for YOURSELF, instead of being influenced, and led around by the nose by others?
BTW, I am NOT having a go at you. I spent YEARS being influenced, and led, by others without even realising it. Not any more though!
@@bobjames6622 So you're not having a go at me? I guess these were just some friendy suggestions?
Well, gosh, I am SO very grateful! What would I do without you out there giving me unsolicited advice?
@@ninagohlsson6053I've reread your original comment a few times I'm at a complete loss to how anyone can accuse you of not thinking of yourself. There's nothing there to give an indication of anything other than that you like listening to good speakers.
Was their comment even intended for you? Lol.
'ticking off' has two opposing interpretations. Hence the confusion?
@@robertmarshall2502 Maybe it was just a random act of kindness? 🤔😆
This really concerns me. The jury is still cogitating with regard to the trans issue. If gender dysphoria is a neurological and/or psychological malady, then I feel some sympathy for this exceptionally small minority of people. The way in which it is dominating my media feed, that our likely, next Prime minister, even struggles to define what a woman is, when there are so many other fractious and pressing issues, that seem to be relegated and dismissed, fills me with a morbid dread.
I don't feel sympathy, for many of them it's simply a case of watching too much porn - particularly 'sissy hypno porn'. Their main psychological malady appears to be narcissism.
Interesting point... I haven't given it as much thought as I need to, out of avoidance. :(
Absolutely and they wonder why children are subdued and confused 🙈
The children deserve to be heard. Please look into de-transitioners or transition in general. The surgeries. It's beyond horrific. 😢
It was a rare mental health issue (still is imo) until activists took over and pushed it to be de-medicalized & relabeled it as "E for everyone!", and they did it to be unnecessarily inclusionary & because being labeled as "mentally ill" can hurt feelings (how f'n stupid).
Andrew Doyle is one of our National Treasures. My Alice B Toklas 'genius recognition bell' went off the second I learned he was behind Titania. I adore you Andrew Doyle-- you've gone from strength to strength. What character. Never obnoxious, shrill, loud, cruel or any of that. And best of all, so sooooooo funny. GENIUS. 😍💘
Peter Schweizer has a book named "Blood Money", where he names the Chinese millionaires who are investing in the trans industry in America, where they do not live and he says that they also do not do the same in China.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve never heard of this book before.
That's like when Muslim owned corner shops sold degraded and disgusting magazines to men.
The purpose is the complete demoralisatiom of all the countries in the Anglosphere, resulting in the destruction of Western civilisation. See also the Chinese-originated American version of Tik-Tok, which is not allowed in China. China's version of Tik-Tok teaches kids advanced calculus.
They've been doing it in many other medical "industries" as well. This is not a new concept where doctors push patients to undergo certain treatments or surgeries, only for their own monetary gain.
China is extremely aggressive. They're sending a ton of fentanyl not literally tons I don't think, but enough to kill literally every person in the US to the US. I bet they're doing the same thing in the EU. And the UK.
Doyle is a star.
This whole thing stinks of paedophilia IMO,and reminds me of the PIE scandal.
Another great guest and interview, Andrew!
it kind of seems like some CIA scam with the agenda to destabilise society everywhere
Agreed. It is a complete scandal that Lizzo was allowed to eat so many pies!
Yes PIE never went away , they just found a new cause it could subvert to its own end .
What's PIE?
@@stacyyoust Google The Paedophile Information Exchange.
Anyone still paying for a tv license is beyond help!
Stopped getting a licence in 2012. If anyone asked the answer was 'Jimmy Savile'.
Yep, it’s the same in Canada where you’re forced to subscribe to CBC and CTV with Bell or Roger’s cable. People are just cutting their cord and getting their actual journalism from Podcasts.
Sad that we can't even convince our own family. Most, if not all of my family pay for it.
Our goverment is now trying to charge us extra for streaming services because no one is paying tv licence. The streaming services said NO to their proposal.
In Germany you're obligated to pay for the "öffentlich-rechtlichen Programme."
Keep the conversation going Mr Doyle, it’s the only way our society can thrive and survive. More people agree with you than you can possibly imagine
Nice few moments of banter between the two Andrews, have to say I love Andrew Gold's interviewing style, he is so chill, deserves way more subs than he has. - Yours truly, Jack.
Doctors/psychologist should go to jail.
absolutely
As a gay dude I totally understand how the homophobia is driving this transing of gay boys. Growing up people constantly called me a girl-I’m thankful I didn’t have the medical establishment to prey on me and take advantage of my internalized homophobia.
Or maybe it is just psychopathy that is not too selective of it 's victims.
This is true, anyone with a shred of common sense and a backbone saw this from the start. It's so obvious.
This is often a response to parental shame of their gay child. Munchausen's syndrome by proxy.
I call it transhausen parenting
Hey I really relate to ur comment.wud love to talk to u
Amazing that the WPATH files issue is being ignored by mainstream media, not a word on our dear ABC in Australia.I was born in 1947, not many years before that there was a doctor in Europe performing medical experiments on children - it was classed as a barbaric crime. Fast forward 70 years and medical experiments on kids is "Care" as in gender-affirming care.
Hello from another Aussie. Early 1950s. Yes. What is happening here is horrendous. And the ABC has lost all credibility.
Great listening to Andrew Doyle, “I just say what I think to be true”, well there’s little doubt that he’s right on the gender issue!👍
Class action lawsuits coming.
Get the popcorn
Exactly. Thats why all this is happening. Going to be great to watch the politicians in office at the moment have to cover for all the medical agencies so they cant get sued. Media companies will also be able to be sued also. Very fun to watch
Yep & they deserve to go to prison too. They’re destroying kids abilities to ever have kids, to have an orgasm so they can’t pair bond with someone, & so many health problems & chronic pain issues from these surgeries, especially bottom surgeries. What they’ve done is pure evil.
Can't wait.
I've heard lawyers weigh in on this possibility and they find it unlikely. They state that the "patient" has given consent and has also signed a waver that most people who undergo and form of plastic surgery acknowledging that a successful outcome can not be guarenteed.
It reminds me of the drug-doping by Soviet-era regimes of [mostly] talented young girls to win Olympic medals for the honour of the nation....
@@elizabethlanders9805 mostly sterile afterwards, lots of cancer....
They all died young Sharon Davies writes about this
It reminds me of the American mania for lobotomies in the 1930s to the 1950s. JFK had a sister who was forced to have one. She spent the rest of her life as a mentally aged 4 year old. It was mostly women who were forced to undergo that medical intervention
yes indeed
They aren’t “girls”. They’re transgender.
Quick message to all trans women: don’t forget to get your prostate checked this month.
Yep! and what should all trans men check?
@@Gullvivas their sanity
😆😆😆
Uterus cancer
Pls stop calling them women. Youre aligning with their ideology. They are transsexual men/men who are transsexual. If you want to differentiate due to how theyve muddied the waters call them dudes/blokes/guys.
It's not just the BBC it's the other cheek of the same rear end The Guardian. Which if was not the house paper of the chattering classes of North London, would have gone out of business years ago.
The human body has one chance to go through puberty and become an adult. To prevent that is criminal. There's no reversal or second chance. That's a biological and genetic fact.
He is great. This shit should be exposed over all the media
It won't be. The radical trans ideologues have somehow gotten this crap anointed as a "Social Justice" issue and as such, questioned only by hateful bigots. Journalists and professionals who do doubt the dogma have learned from the experience of others to keep quiet to avoid the wrath of a mob.
You must have missed it the last yr or two .
Missed it too much mate. They should be yelling it from the roofs@@Crosshatch1212
Censorship is far worse than being wrong
Bad beliefs, are always false beliefs.
Belief is arriving at conclusions in the absence of adequate evidence or reason - Judging them good, bad, true or false is judging a cow on it's ability to fly.
It's such judgements that deny us the opportunity to testa. new hypothesis - or even what we previously held as true by censoring the discussion on it.
Science for instance does not have a mechanism for determining truth - and can only tell us where our hypothesis doesn't work, needs refining or replacing - and in some instances - provides no predictive value over future events (basically what science is used for).
All science progress in history has literally replaced previous models and in some cases - yes, beliefs with hypotheses that have been repeatedly tested for whether they provide useful predictive value.
If you combine censorship with any epistemological process you only get politics, not science.
We have been saying it for years now, defund the bbc. Why we have to fund the bbc? I don’t want to watch bbc shows, why am I forced to pay bbc fees?
You don’t need a tv licence. You can opt out of even being under suspicion of viewing .
Yes I think I will try opting out even though everything tells me that they won't let go quite that easily,
And defund Stonewall
Yes you all would be better off with just Murdoch media 🤭
@@Foxiepawstotti they constantly send mails and threatening to visit your property etc.
Trans widows, the women divorced now from men who suddenly ideat female personae are supppoesed to go aong. Stay at your own risk, in the data of 57 trans widows I've colfecteed, we find very sad sad data, of 57 trans widows who tried to keep the Family together; We divorced in order to keep our sanity. As for family life after, the defamations begin. From husband and his several therapists, it's a slug fest. Motherhood no longer exists.
You have my compassion…I’ve never read about that situation. It sounds heartbreaking.
@@patriciablue2739search Ute’s name and you’ll find out a great deal.
Ute, you are doing fantastic work researching and compiling this important information. I don't think anyone else is doing this.🙂
And then the trans ex husband's are very vitriolic in their criticism of their wives a lot of the time
What a treat on a rainy Wednesday, Andrew Doyle is a gent.
I was so sorry to hear about his twitter experience. A minority of gc feminists are truly horrible people.
Thank you Andrew for standing up for my rights as a woman.
Why are there so many young people are having this dysphoria? at this period in time?
Tiktok
Marxism and Islam.
I think it might be due to society having a dick for a brain, therefore any difficulties the youngsters go through, which are numerous and of a variety of origins, is put down to some form of inner sexual conflict, and once the seed has been sowed, time and cognitive bias does the rest.
Basically, you feel a bit down in the dumps, because the nice lady next door died, and six months later you're up for a sex change. (slightly exaggerating obviously)
Anyone else not comfortable with the labelling of (young) children as having any kind of s--ual orientation? I think this feeds into and flows from the over s--ualisation of all children which we should be resisting. It also burdens them with adult stuff that they shouldn't be concerned about til they're old enough to fully comprehend. Let kids be kids and not mini adults.
Anything that uses bright primary colors to signify s-- -ual things to children should viewed with great scrutiny. It's the candy and van situation.
I love Andrew Doyle! This was a great interview
He's a cheeky chap.
Would a doctor cut off my healthy feet , if I asked? No! So why cut off a penis, healthy breasts? True perspective. Such requests come from disturbed minds. It's really so obvious! An excellent interview, but so very hard to listen to. I couldn't finish it.
@ Rosy, even more worrying is the disturbed minds of these Doctors performing these evil experiments
I asked a doctor to take out my left kidney, because i could no longer cope with the pain of renal colic, every single day for over a year. My argument was, i can live with one kidney, but i can no longer live with the pain.
He refused to remove my kidney, because it was still working.
A perfectly working penis, that doesn't cause physical pain, will be cut off, if you ask the right doctor.
The moment at 22:15 where he says that as a kid the bullies at school would call him a girl and now it’s medical professionals - clip that, it’s a perfect short. Perfect summary of this insanity
Exactly! This is where a great deal of the "dysphoria " originates in the first place. Which is why "affirming" someone's wrong belief about themselves just makes the bullies win.
I’m so sorry you got so much abuse from extremists on ‘our’ side Andrew, completely unacceptable. You are one of many important voices on this issue and I’m so grateful that you are getting this out to the public.
Thank you once again, Andrew, for Heretics. Andrew Doyle was a great interviewee, always intelligent and interesting.
As a woman who finds the idea of women's liberation from male violence appealing, I was sensitive about men criticising feminists. But I had to leave feminist spaces because of the homophobia and lesbophobia from my fellow women. Ironically fuelling the internalised homophobia that leaves people susceptible to conversion therapy and the transgenderism 'gender critical' feminists claim to be critical of. Keep on calling it out, Mr Doyle
It breaks your heart to see instances of teenagers mostly girls seeking "transition" because they cannot accept their emerging same sex attraction. If that doesn't prove the trans ideology is the modern iteration of the discredited conversion therapy!
@joce11The problem with “feminist” is that the word itself has become completely debased through decades of misuse. It means utterly different things to different people, even between different people who use it to describe themselves.
The worst sexism I've experienced in my life has come from "feminists". They are consumed by a victim-mentality and will lash out at any woman who dares to think differently to them.
They’ve been silent about women’s treatment in Islam. Oh yeah and men in women’s sports and dressing rooms. They did wear pink pussy hats when Donald Trump was elected though.
I'm sick of men saying that women wanted the trans in our bathrooms,sport etc,actually no one asked us.A small bunch of stupid "intellectual women "who deep down are too scared to stand up to a man did this..The rest of us have bills to pay,children to support and are desperate to keep our jobs which is why we have been silent,but NO MORE.
Brilliant interview, which I enjoyed tremendously. I'm grateful for Andrew's diligent work on trans issues. I am a "gender critical" woman, not belonging to any particular camp, who feels very passionately about these issues, and I am genuinely concerned about the erosion in whatever meagre gains we have made that can ensue from a lax approach to "preferred pronouns." At the same time, I am absolutely appalled at the kind of disrespect and abuse that Andrew has experienced. Thinking, hoping, that surely the release of the WPATH files will help to break open the truth about so called trans medicine - still waiting...
Fabulous podcast thank you both.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
James Lindsay is near the mark when he calls it Gnosticism. The perceived importance of transcending the "fallen" human body outweighs any considerations such as science.
He we make a great guest
The RICO - Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations - Act covers "maiming." Just sayin'…
Wow
Excellent observation.
Great observation and angle of criminal prosecution.
Nice one had no idea what RICO meant, they keep mentioning it on law and order svu
Be careful now, they’ll start calling you a conspiracy theorist
Great episode, Andrew! I'm a big fan of Andrew Doyle, really liked his book The New Puritans. Some great book recommendations from him at the end as well.
P.S. I'm so pleased to see this channel getting close to 100k subscribers!
Thanks so much! Always nice to see your name in comments! Really appreciate the support. On to 100k then…!
LGB without the TQ+
How about we get rid of the whole thing and call each other H u m a n .
I think that's the LGB alliance. I know the organization is in U.K. and U.S.
I agree. When did the ‘B’ get added?
@philiprobertson1102 at the very beginning. Bisexuals exist. We are not a phase between gay and straight. We are genuinely attracted to both sexes, no matter that long-term relationships may have us presenting gay or straight, we are still bi.
That’s what needs to happen, remove TQ+, because what will be next? Are they going to have a group who comes out identifying as cats and dogs, and people will be expected to go along with it?
Great conversation gentlemen. Thank you!
I really like Andrew Doyle and I hope that he wasn't referring to Kellie Jay Keen when he mentioned the authoritarian gender critical people. I know that she has criticised Andrew harshly for using fake pronouns, however, I do admire her for holding the line and not surrendering our language. To be more specific she refuses to use fake pronouns and makes no exceptions. I respect that.
He will be talking about her and us.
That's why she specifically said to everyone don't bother wasting your energy on social media arguing etc.
On the presumption that Kellie wouldn't use homophobic slurs, I presume they can agree to disagree
@@Noblebird02 Of course. From what I have understood from her she would never use homophobic slurs and it's just a case of a disagreement on the use of pronouns. I was just clarifying that I don't believe that she and her followers (I count myself amongst them) are authoritarian. We just want language as well as boundaries to be upheld.
@@noraanderson3503 I think there needs more precision in language; though I like both Matt Walsh, Dave Chappelle and anybody else who opposes trans ideology on conservative/religious grounds, cannot be described as gender critical, they could be more accurately described at trans critical, though this is a spectrum with a lot of nuance: Matt Walsh is more conservative than Chapelle, but wouldn't use homophobic slurs, Chapelle's position is closer to the gender critical one than Matt Walsh. Then within the gender critical movement there is an enormous spectrum of people: Graham Linehan and both orthodox Jewish and Muslim we women who don't want to be bullied into sharing female spaces with men. Then there are Helen Joyce (libertarian but feminist), then economically left but heterosexual like Kellie and Birdy Rose who tend support free speech, there are lesbians (who have been fighting this struggle for longer than anyone) and detransitioners like Shape Shifter, but there also a small number of gender critical women who are anti-natalist, Marxist& authoritarian. Whilst they can be very insightful about the nature of the patriarchy and have much to offer, they don't have an especially rounded world view.
I know I'm politically a different hue to Andrew Doyle but Its always a pleasure to listen to him . Always intelligent and forthright.
Andrew Doyle is such a great spokesman and so interesting to listen to.
He got me into reading books by Forrest Reid whom I'd never even heard of. A magical evocation of childhood and adolescence. I've just ordered another one online.😅
Fantastic listening. Totally enthralled. Thank you Andrew for creating this channel I love it.
As for your guest it’s bloody scary what we are doing to children. Even though I was desperate to have children I couldn’t, and now in a way I’m so please of this, because my grandchildren would be growing up in this environment.
This was a fantastic interview
Surely it is illegal to perform such major surgery to alter a body without informed consent?
Forgive me for saying it, but where have you been? This is the major point of controversy wrt 'gender-affirming care', and it's been going on all over the world, and still is.
@carltaylor6452 yes i'm aware of that, obviously, however the issue and argument in response is these practitioners hiding behind the "life saving treatment" line putting the burden of proof onto those like us who can see how wrong it is.
However now there are leaks of records that categorically show that the doctors were aware that they SHOULD have had consent, i.e. they were not thinking of these treatments as a life saving intervention, then that puts the burden of proof back onto those individuals to explain their actions. It should turn into a rout. As it hasnt i think this goes beyo d the bbc, which we knew but i think that this is the most honest and legitimate reason to hit the streets in protest ive heard of in a decade at least.
CHILDREN can’t consent though. And definitely not a child and their parents when the doctors DO NOT disclose the REALITY of these mutilation malpractice.
Really hard to consent on something that claims THIS, but all the science says THAT. Really hard to consent when we are gaslighted and LIED to about the reality of “gender affirming CARE” see? That’s NOT what it is. They use language to confuse. It’s SEXUAL BINARY MUTILATION/ALTERATION.
the whole movement encourages us to “accept ALL people no matter WHAT for who they are (even if they are criminals, pedophiles, clearly insane etc)”
Yet if your “dysphoric” or don’t fit neatly into the stereotypes they claim don’t matter, they FORCE you to then NOT accept yourself and mutilate yourself…
Great interview, Andrew! I hope you interview Genevieve Gluck. If I did the research she does to expose what goes on behind this movement I think I would be clinically insane.
Very nice episode , it was a joy hearing you both talk
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This gentleman just explained everything fully to me....brilliant.
Interesting that you were saying that you weren’t comparing it to Hitler while I was busy thinking that this was exactly like it was with Germans being convinced by Hitler, and the masses just then blind to what was happening. So my mind was definitely comparing all this to the Hitler Years in Germany.
Mmm and the 15minute cities,sounds like ghettos to me...the WEF is fully behind this movement,very scarey.Klaus Schwab wants to creat half robot half human trans beings and crossing human DNA with animals...sick stuff.
Andrew is right. There's a bright line between public and private behavior (swearing comes to mind).
I have 'cancelled' GB News due to their attitude to Tommy Robinson so I'm glad you have covered this subject. Shellenburger did fantastic coverage. I hope this subject gets more coverage.
Whose attitude in particular?
What attitude out of interest?
What attitude to Tommy Robinson? Explain.
Ghosting the questions are you?
I unfollowed them on Fbk becauuse they kept banging on about Meghan and Harry and I just dont give a sh1t and it was some weird obsession they had. I like tuning in for Andrew and some other bits and pieces that are relevant to my political interests. I dont watch it as a general.
Thank you so much, both of you, for having this great conversation. I salute your courage and dedication and would be great if you kept up this important topic.
this is what happens when they close down conversation, much less debate; when they cancel you for merely asking about where this is coming from, much less questioning it. when the universities get captured ideologically. when the academic journals become corrupted. when they scream at you for not changing at a pace fast enough to satisfy their ‘demands’. it’s a dangerous way to try to effect change: one, because they might be wrong; two because they are not changing anyone’s mind, they are just forcing people to go underground. people generally avoid conflict, and will tolerate others be no matter how weird their views are. but once they start acting rabid, and threatening other’s careers, or existence (far more than trans people perceive or claim to be threatened), and threatening their kids, then they are inviting pushback. it’s stupid that they would expect otherwise. it’s not the kind of pushback that will tell them where the limit is and stop them after they have made what they perceive as ‘progress’. it’s the kind of pushback that will roll back even the ‘progress’ they have made, the kind of pushback that will make them regret they ever chose to raise these issues, much less fight about them. many of us have tried to warn them, only to be shut up, or shut out. now, it’s time to let the chips fall where they may. laws will change. some professors will be fired; many if not all will lose tenure. there will be costs to society of this absurd foray into fringe thinking.
I don’t know ANY lesbians who feel like they are part of this alphabet mob.
They SHOULD be outraged.
@@shabbykat273 they are.
@@shabbykat273 lesbian here, we most definitely are. A lot of the younger ones stay quiet or conform to this gender ideology insanity, but most older lesbians are tired of it.
It’s always awesome to listen to Andrew! Great interview…
Saddens me to say that none of this surprises me. I called the lack of coverage when Sasha and Stella came out with it.
Will Dissident Dialogues be available online eventually, Andrew? There’s no way I can travel to America!
Just started watching. There has been a bit of a Doyley drought on YT since his GB news stuff. Looking forward to this...
What is really disturbing in all of this, is that it is accepted that children are thinking about s attraction in the first place. In a normal world, the parents should be investigated as to why their child has got these ideas in their heads.
As none of this stuff entered my head as a child, i asked my friends and they never had these thoughts either, with the exception of one gay friend.
Also another big issue is that some people dont know that love isn't exclusive to sexual relationships, and neither do they know the difference between love and lust.
It would solve alot of problems if people didnt parade their preferences down the centre of a street and call it love. Just saying.
Children are now sexualised in school. The sex ed and relationship lessons are now being taught younger and younger. It's perverted
Iv always known that i was gay from a very very young age and definitely had some sort of gender dysphoria/gender confusion. Thankfully i grew out of that confusion and 100% know now that im a man who happens to like men and couldnt imagine being transitioned at a young age by these head cases, i couldnt imagine doing that at a very young age then waking up one day asking why have i mutilated myself which is what they are doing! Alot of these young people being transitioned are definitely going to grow up to regret it. I believe this is a form of population control
What a good conversation. I really think I'd like Andrew Doyle IRL.
🤯🧐 WE Humans have really lost their minds. Holy shit😢👍🏻🇨🇦🐉👩🏼⚖️
Its almost eugenics of a kind
Not almost. It is.
Absolutely eugenics.
And it's also removing gay people from the ability to reproduced - chemical castration a la Alan Turing in the 50s.
Absolutely. Sterilising gay and autistic people is eugenics
It is eugenics check out how the nazis discussed different paths on how to eliminate a population. Yes these people pushing this movement and funding it are as bad as nazis they are what they claim they are against
Whan Andrew said "I was never attracted to women" hearts were breaking all over the world.
Dissident Dialogues
Andrew, I pulled up your episode with Winston Marshall. The description - Launching a Battle of Ideas sounds - like an understatement. Betting it will get pretty loud in there. I would love to go but that just isn't going to happen. Surely this event will be recorded. I'm hoping someone will pick it up and televise this at some point.
I heart Andrew for many reasons! keep up the good work, men!
Much love to both of you
Thank you, gentlemen.
Thanks
Thanks !!
Looking forward to the law suits
All of these "clinicians" should be absolutely sued out of their pants.
Time for heads to roll
Andrew is on his way to becoming a national treasure... your best guest so far.... thank you
Wonderful discussion! The original quote seems unclear, but it's from George Bernard Shaw: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”