THE WORST TRADE OF THE YEAR
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if the owner wasn't running around the locker room dropping f bombs and worrying about how it looks on him. maybe he wouldn't be looking so much like an ass to his team and the company. hard to follow someone who can't keep it together and has to shove his nose into every bit of the team. i wouldn't play for that kind of man.
Let’s be honest that 2021 49er decision would look so awful if they didn’t luck out on Mr Irrelevant
They would have just kept him then and saved face
doesn’t matter every team had access to him but didn’t take him their fault not the niners
Biggest bust in history
How is it luck that they picked him when no one else did? They didn’t want him to become a UDFA so they took a flyer on him with the last pick. Then he looked good during the preseason and they knew he would get grabbed off of waivers so they cut Nate Sudfeld and ate the 2 million dollars they had guaranteed him to to carry Purdy into the season on the 53 man. Everyone got hurt so he got his opportunity and hasn’t looked back. Are they lucky that everyone got hurt? Or are they lucky for being the only team who wanted him on their roster enough to draft him? I feel that they are as lucky as any other team finding their franchise qb.
@@gsisemore come on man anyone taken in the 7th period is a flyer . It’s someone a franchise of course was somewhat interested in, but there’s no expectation. If they do anything on the field it’s all a net positive. Brock was barely a step above a kid that would be a udfa , and was certainly not thought to be the 2023 starter. Especially with the things they mortgaged for Lance. It was a shot in the dark that hit .
Thielen having 1 catch for 2 yards all game is crazy
I agree
Didn't Giants finish with negative passing yards earlier this year? lol
Yea ticked me off I have him on my fantasy
@@paulschroeder749 why would you get him
He's having a really good yr tho
as a bears fan, this is the best trade of all time
In most cases, I hate to see these coaches getting fired after 1 or 2 seasons. Like what are they supposed to do? It takes time to draft and develop a team. Atleast give them 3 -5 years to get things going in the right direction.
In the free agency era, a coach that wins the Super Bowl is in the playoffs by year 2 of his tenure with the team he wins the Super Bowl with. This isn't the 80s or 90s, you can rebuild teams overnight. Look at the Texans under DeMeco Ryans or the Jags under Doug Pedersen. Pedersen won the Super Bowl in his second year in Philly. Steichen might have a Colts team that was putrid under Reich in the playoffs in his first year.
I used to think the same thing, but then I looked at all the teams that win, look at the last 40 years of Superbowl teams, they all have coaches that came in and started winning within the first 2 years. None of them had a coach they hired and had a losing record for 3 plus years.
@joedepalo3230 yeah but those aren't poverty franchises. There's no stability to build cultures for teams. It's been a weird year where all the historically terrible franchises are actually doing well except the jets. They could be juggernauts for years to come or they could be one or two year flukes. Historically, they are flukes, but I would be glad to be proven wrong in the future.
New coach, rookie QB, minus their best receiver.... fired in 10 games. Give the guy a chance.
It’s all about the direction the team is heading. If a team is no better off after a couple of years then the coach is packing his bags.
To all these teams having issues with keeping your QB on his feet. GET YOUR FREAKING O-LINE RIGHT. I'm tired of seeing good QBs ruined by bad GMs and Coaches. Don't pick a QB in the first round if you don't plan on fixing your O-line. If a veteran QB goes to a team with a bad O-line that's on him but if you draft a QB make sure he has a decent O-line. Please for the love of god.
Well said
having 4 offensive linemen hurt two of which start hurts your offensive’s line
During the last rd of negotiations the players gave Roger power in exchange for $ & less practice time. Developing players is no longer possible bc coaches don’t have the access/time/control with players. O line suffers the most from lack of development. Followed by QB.
As a bears fan I would like to thank Carolina for their 2024 1st round pick. Hopefully the bears will become the 90s cowboys when they had a one sided trade with Hershel walker
Yea, I wouldn't count on that. Your management isn't that great.
Yeah lets not forget you are still the beats and its not the 80s
I mean the bears do have smart ownership…in Jordan Love 😂
Ya that's never gnna happen again bc u can't just pay for all the great players u want but u guys could b really good in a few years but by then u will have to pay bryce so idk what u guys are gnna do
They over estimated on Bryce Young
As a Panthers fan, I just wanna let my fellow Panthers fan know....don't be afraid to call 988 if you need support 🙏🏿 we gonna get through this
Lol that's wild, I'm with you though we gonna get through this.
It could be worse, you could be a bears fan like me
Aye my team bad too but I still can’t believe panthers fans were saying I was slow for thinking saints would win the division over them 😭
@@Isaacsbasednah how is that worse as a bears fan? We got 4 wins and two early first round picks there’s plenty to be excited about dude
My guy Mike putting the work in 💪🏾🙏🏾
The pathers owner is like Robert Sarver but not at the same time imo but we had our “QB1” which is Dbook and then slowly was building around him which failed outside of getting a new HC around book every year
The panthers are going to hold this place for a long freaking time
I m betting 8-10 years the panthers are still trash, unless Tepper grows a brain stays the f**k away from football and higher the right people to do it for him and he can sit in a nook somewhere he belongs and maybe gets lucky, otherwise this team goes no where until he sells the franchise
Born in North Carolina, love all my Charlotte/North Carolina teams, but my days as a Carolina Panthers fan may be numbered. As long as Tepper is the owner, we're screwed.
Hang in there, I’m a bears fan and we’ve been garbage since ‘86 . I don’t have faith they can use these draft picks wisely but I’ll continue to watch 😞
@@Bekz00you’re not a bears fan talking about some garbage since 86 smh. Won’t do anything with those picks? You’re an imposter llf
We'll see if Bryce Young can survive long enough to have a team built around him. Andrew Luck didn't.
How many years did the colts have to build around him
@@Isaacsbasedlike 5 right?
Bryce Young is no Andrew Luck...
Panthers fan since 2003. From day one I hated the hiring of Frank. Totally agree Scott has got to go too. And unless we find a hidden gem in next year's draft It'll be bad into the 2025 draft, which will be year three for Young.
Im sorry. I understand and know your pain. - A Brownie.
this year is LOADED with wr talent we should be able to get a wr with our second round pick
Carolina's BIGGEST issue is OWNERSHIP. They are now paying 2 former coaches not to coach. Both Coaches wanted draft picks that ownership ignored.
Yeah I forgot the name of the gm that Mike mentioned, but it’s pretty safe to say that he’s a puppet for the owner to make decisions, and as Buffalo and Washington will tell you, bad things happen when non football guys make football decisions.
They said the same thing about Houston we wasn't supposed to be good for another two years
To be fair even the biggest Stroud enjoyers couldn't have predicted he would do this. The kid might just be ABOVE a generational talent.
@@MrMisties true but our GM Nick has been putting this team together for the past two or three years yeah they say CJ makes Nico and tank and everyone better but those players still have to get open and catch the ball and bringing meco in was the icing on the cake imo
They should hire Cam Newton as Head Coach. 😂
Mike I’m NOT SURPRISED. Frank was the wrong hire from day one. Good family guy but an NFL Head Coach. You think these owners would QUIT listening to ESPN on who should be an NFL Head Coach. Great move David.
You mean but not a head coach right?
We won a Super Bowl with Reich, obviously he can play call. Tepper overstepped and wouldn’t let him get the players he wanted, guy said no to CJ Stroud both Reich and Mccown wanted em, and they’re former nfl qbs! This owner is a bonehead thinking he knows better than them and that’s the truth. You’ll continue to see the panthers struggle until they change their culture and the owner gets out of his own way.
Wrong. Shitty gm and he inherited two shitshows in the NFL. Give him the Chargers and a DC and see what happens.
CJStroud is so good cause he's not afraid to toss the rock. He has always been a placement specialist. If you can throw carchable passes
Love your video Mike and keep up the great work
Great vid!! Keep it up
Yeah terrible situation to be in. It’s crazy because they don’t have a first round pick and it’s kinda tough to get a good head coach in when they gave up all those picks.
All of us in Chicago disagree. Best trade ever.
It would be if you hit on those picks. If you don’t, all that is for naught.
Frank Reich is a HUGE reason for my Panthers being bad this year. He was brought in because he was supposed to be a great offensive coach. The scheme was terrible, and he did nothing to adapt it to the players we have. The play calling was even worse. Most games this seadon, we have scored 1 offensive touchdown. Everything else is field goals and defensive tds. Absolutely the right call, now get rid of Fitterer cause hes the reason we have no picks. Look at all we got in return for cmac, none of those picks panned out. We got nothing.
Love you mike
Tepper hasn't got a clue he fires the coach and Kept the Gm who made poor decisions
Can you make a video on the broncos please 🙏. Love the content btw ❤👌
What has Josh McGown done to make you say he’s a great coach?
Honestly, it’s not Bryce Young’s fault it’s definitely the Carolina Panthers’s Owner David Tepper not having the guts to actually draft CJ Stroud over him , but like u can’t blame the rookie for that, he just got into a bad fit and honestly I can’t blame him at all , he’s not the scapegoat
It can be his fault: his decision making, his skills, his leadership…these are things he can work on and control. How can he be devoid of any responsibility?
So then if it’s not his fault if he is losing…would it be not his kudos if he was winning?
@@jhinckle90I agree to an extent. Bryce has a lot of issues. However every qb is different and his issues can be fixed, sure he isn’t as talented as Stroud but it isn’t fair to label anyone a bust after one season. More pressing is the team. The o-line ranks bottom of the league. Stroud had 4 practice squad players at o-line and they outperformed the panthers starting line in every metric. The panthers wide outs get less than half a yard of separation most plays. Mingo, the number 2 wide out has the lowest catch rate on catchable balls in the league, and that’s Bryce’s second best target. It’s honestly sad to see Bryce extend a play for 10+ seconds and still not have ANYONE open. He will take a snap, his poor footwork doesn’t help him, he gets pressured in less than a second. Then he runs around avoiding defenders showing off his talented ability to extend plays, then look downfield and see no one open whatsoever. Then he throws the ball away. I honestly don’t see how ANY qb could operate in these conditions, let alone a rookie.
I have to disagree with Mike, this was by far the best trade Carolina could make for us!! 🐻⬇️
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ayo i straight laughed when that dude caught that ball out of bounds like that. lol wtf was that fr haha
CJ allready showed He is a franchise QB but Young might be bust 😅
God bless you Mike
Man I went to every panthers home game from 95 until the end of 2019. We had PSL's. David tepper is the worst thing that could've ever happened to the Carolina panthers. I hate everything about about the organization since David tepper has took over as owner. Jerry Richardson is a legend and I miss those days! They will always be my team but man they got alot of problems to deal with for a long time!
100% Facts. Couldn't have said it better.
Reasons Panthers suck: Owner sucks (went "All-in" with draft capital and WR1 trade for Bryce Young!), Play-calling sucks (dumb reads, routes, running plays!), O-Line sucks (wearing roller skates while confused about blocking assignments), and WRs suck (can't get separation, get open, or set run blocks). Right now, I call this team the Carolina Cubs because their decision-making is so "Young"-minded and it'll be "Years" till they grow out of this mess!
I never thought I would see a trade worse than the dhop trade lol
make a video of the Eagles game pls... also I LOVE your videos I tune in to each and every upload
Yep… Eagles fan here. Many were crediting him over Pederson for the team’s offensive success.
As a panthers fan that got to see Jonathan Stewart Steve smith and cam we need some changes in the front office it’s not just about coach’s it’s bout decsion making
I like how you enunciate Reich’s last name. The ‘ch’. You sound somewhat German 😂
Reminds me of the Jason Garrett days in Dallas.
Thought that was Carl Anthony towns on the cover for a sec lol
Bears 1 and 2 pick?
If bears get the number 1 overall in 24 they should get marvin Harrison jr. Fields is a good QB that needs some good wrs
I like Xavier Legette myself as well if we miss out on MHJ
50% correct get MHJ keep Justin fields but draft a replacement
@@allstraightup I really think we going to miss out on getting the number one overall pick by a game or two but if we don't do you think we trade down with New England if the draft capital is good value?
@@mikemartin8461 there's that chance but seeing the rest of the Panthers schedule they don't got winnable games. It's the first I heard about trading with New England but it seems reasonable that they would go with Drake Maye. But I somewhat agree tho but with the 4th pick, the bears do have some winnable games
@@allstraightup good point very good points but anything can happen any given Sunday plus in a way I'm thinking the step in coach for the Panthers might put Andy Dalton in there more seeing how Bryce Young it's ready just yet they might win a game or two and no telling how thing will go with Arizona and New England things might just might just turn out as a true shocker at the end
Young only looks bad because of how good Stroud is looking. But the reality is that the Panthers traded for the #1 pick, not Bryce Young. They could have picked Stroud.
The worst trade in History and no one talks about it, is the 49ers trading 3 firsts for the #3 pick. That year, Rodgers became disgruntled, and the 49ers would have had a chance to steal him for 3 firsts(or maybe 4). But they had already traded the picks away, and ONE #3 pick wasnt good enough.
Also, I think it was crazy to give up on Lance after 2 seasons in the NFL.
Me as a life long Bears fan 👉 😁
The Texans are thanking their win against the colts rn
It is a sad situation for the Panthers, but not to sound to obtuse about it… I’m just happy it’s not my Texans being talked about this way anymore. 3 years of that bashing was enough.
The difference is that owner of the Texans finally figure out that it about developing a good culture, on the team. You cannot buy a championship because it is so hard to see how a player will develop. In professional baseball you can watch them grow up from 16 to 25 and see them develop. In the NFL there out of high school sometimes they might play one or two years in college. That's simply not enough time to watch them develop. So it is a total crap shoot if they would make a good player.
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 good point! 👊🏻👍🏻
Since the superbowl appearance with Cam Newton, the panthers never stand up again. The real problem is the assets: with no good amount of draft picks, it's gonna be the same situation of Wembanyama and the Spurs, one great player who can't do all on the field. My Only wish is to go with undrafted and player with a great longevity in the league. And stay with Tremble!
You never miss a chance to take a hit on the Jets do you...like how was it even relevant 🤣
I disagree Trey last trade is still way worse… the fact they gave up that many picks and didn’t even use the man is Insane my guy 😭 then the sudden times he did play he was a half bag either straight terrible or pretty ok
The man is getting paychecks from the bears and the panthers. He’s living the dream
Frank told local Charlotte news he’s done coaching for now and Tepper didn’t fire Duce and Josh, Chris Tabor did. Just look into local news here in Charlotte they have a lot of info you missed and miss stated.
Did a Texas newspaper release some poor test scores of strouds for the smoke and mirrors
The Panthers balked at trading Brian Burns to the Rams for 2 first-round picks and a second round pick. Burns has never recorded a double-digit sack year in his career and is about to get paid. That's malpractice by the Panthers front office. Team should of drove him to the airport and flown him to LA in Gulfstream for that kind of draft haul. The Rams are terrible, imagine how high those picks would be and they said no!
You can blame Young's struggles on the inability of the organization to build a quality team around him, but they traded the house to get a guy that no one thought would be a superstar at the next level. He was not an Andrew Luck/Trevor Lawrence/Joe Burrow level dude. Wasn't Cam Newton. Wasn't even Justin Fields. Just a completely incompetent organization. Bad process. Bad scouting. Bad coaching. All punctuated by bad ownership. Is Tepper another Dan Snyder? A petulant man-baby scumbag? Or just another clueless rich guy like Arthur Blank? Either way, not good for the future.
Tepper is a very hands on owner. The gm should definitely be fired next. A bad gm makes everything worse.
My thoughts on this are that this was a needed fire… Neither of them believed in Bryce… This reminds me of the Dolphins firing Brian Flores. Flores was open in his feelings about not drafting Herbert over Tua and now that he’s gone Tua is a top 5 QB. It’s obvious that Frank and Josh wanted Cj Stroud but David made them take Bryce! They just need a staff that fully believes in Bryce.
I love the Panthers because I always bet about $100 against them in every game and luckily I didn't bet when they played the Texans
Hey Mike since you covered the Broncos and Russ’s demise so much I think it’s only fair that you cover their resurgence. Video incoming?
It's not Bryce Young's fault
Maybe not but he is not a good QB either.
He's a bust
@@jodyfoster9278he is. He's a rookie with a trash team around him. What did you expect?
I though Stroud was the better choice, but good chance he would have bust with this team too
@@jameshollister8294you expect a qb to come in with no weapons or any team to do good?
If ESPN brings back the show Top 5 Reasons You Can’t Blame, this would be among the episodes shown.
My panthers fans friends have been going through it during the tepper era lol
Question, Why Has Byron Leftwich Not Been Considered For This Job Let Alone Any Team In The NFL AFTER WINNING A SUPER BOWL WITH THE GOAT???
Even though Frank Riech isnt the absolute worst coach you could ask for. I wasn't suprised he was fired. He never seemed to adapt as a play caller and just made poor choices (imo) in certain situations.
The Titans game was a perfect example. 4th and 6 with the game on the line and the play is a screen pass to Thielen. That type of play calling has been there since week 1.
Sure, it could be that Bryce isnt quite developing how they want. Shit, I could tell you after week 3 that Young just seemlingly wasnt getting it. Not talking about the plays where hes constantly pressured but even when he isnt he rarely ever throws it past the LoS or a few yards in front of it. Its just tourture having to watch my team go down like this 😭
Bro Bryce Young doesn’t have an oline good enough to get men down the field lol.
If I was a Panthers fan I wouldn’t panic ( as a Bears fan the pain is real ). Bright side tho, plenty of talent that can be traded for picks. 1st-3rd rounders. Rebuilds take a while. Some longer than others
lol David Tepper and Scott Fitterer don’t know how to make trades that benefit them so please stop making trades that’s not the answer. I’m fully on board with the conspiracy that Tepper was able to buy the team because the nfl majority owners voted him in because he knew absolutely dick about football, now those owners have a cattle team they can get trades from and then also one less contender for playoffs
Roster building usually takes 2-4 years if you are doing it right with a consistent coaching staff
My boy Frank Riikkekekke going through it
Mike can you please make a video on the bills and eagles game I wanna know your take on the refs
All 3 guys that were let go have Philadelphia Eagle ties … If the Eagles day found themselves Super Bowl champions I could absolutely see offensive coordinator Brian Johnson, being reached at buy some organization to become a head coach. Which would also probably cost the Eagles several position coaches. It would not surprise me in the least, if that happens to see Siriani, bring in Reich, Staley and McCown.
FRANK DID NOT DESERVE TO GET FIRED HE DIDNT EVEN WANT TO DRAFT YOUNG
Ofc he deserves it. Messed up two teams... And who said he didnt want Young? MSM talking heads with rumors dont count. They have no idea what they are talking (about).
Then why have him coaching someone that he’s not good enough to coach.
Yes. A coach, earning millions, unable to coach high end pros is unfit for office. Guy had Ryan, Luck, Rivers, a top QB prospect, Wentz... And he had Jacob Eason. Praised him to heaven, but stabbed him behind his back... Career long back ups shall not coach. They were failures in the first place. Even if trying out at the highest level.@@bluthgold533
Frank Reich has to be the most relieved person in the world.
Bears are probably going for Marv JR Williams is a smaller fields 😅 thumbnail isn’t valid 😂
yeah bears better not draft Caleb
Panthers need Sonny Weaver Jr!! 🤣
Tepper is going to be a terrible owner. Willing to spend whatever it takes but also thinks he’s the smartest guy in any room he walks into.
Sounds an awful lot like Jerry Jones.
Was there really a plan for the Bears? Haha!
As a bears fan I t would be hilarious if we fired our coaches and picked up reich. Wouldn’t even mind it either
Carolina has the same problem that Detroit had terrible ownership.
Bro Bryce young’s #1 target is a literal mummy the brother is ancient
But fr they need to bring in bellicheck and introduce him to southern poon and shine
This comment is crazy 😂
God I love southern poon
There needs to be a team building guideline to ensure that you don't bring in a young QB and stunt his growth... I don't know how first round QBs aren't scared to go to a team that totally failed the last season before. What are the odds that you are going to make it all better?
Forgot they had Teddy B toooo
The Chicago Bears Need To Hired Jeff Saturday
When Bryce Young came to Carolina Panthers it isn’t all The coaches fought Because they added Adam see them to their offense Jonathan Mingo And miles sanders just on the quarterback
bears are pumped
It better to get a defense 1st then skilled players then the qb.
It’s so hard being a Charlotte sports fan these days😭
As a colts fan, i feel like us firing our defensive coordinator wrecked the bears as the hired him as their head coach. Colts then repaid the bears by firing Frank giving them one of the best trades for the bears in nfl history , enjoy that number 1 pick next year bear fans😂!
What are you yapping about? Bears never got Frank Reich. Delete ur comment cuz everything you said made me lose brain cells.
Wait ing for broncos to bear Houston and then I want a video
NFL teams sell hope, nothing sells hope better than a new QB. Few things sell hope worse than an offensive lineman. This past free agent receiver class was one of the worst ever, there are some decent wide receivers scheduled to hit the market this offseason. Ryan Poles knew what he was doing, he needed a WR and knew that whatever team traded him that WR would be pretty dammm bad this year.
Can Mikerphone please do a story on my Denver Broncos? Everyone thought they were dead & buried. I don't want to be on the hype train but 5 on the trot is unheard of these days so...
Also you should never ever place all of your eggs in one basket. Especially like Mike said if you don't have a good amount of talent already in place. It doesn't help that they have a billionaire owner who's better at playing Monopoly board game than being an owner. The Panthers are starting to look like the NFC version of the Cleveland Clowns. While Frank Riecht might be a good OC that doesn't make him a good head coach. But he and Bryce were put in the very worst situation. I feel for them both. Young might end up on the draft "Bust" list unfairly.
Carolina should have staid with Sam Darnold and Steve Wilks. Used that pick for an O-lineman and try again next year. Hell they were a game away from making the playoffs against Tampa Bay now they haven’t even won 2 games
Panthers not having a 1st does suck but it’s not te end of the world. We just need to trade D players for more picks, draft as much young talent we can to surround Bryce, and spend money in free agency to get some good defense in the building. Having a high power offense and a bottom 10 Defense is better for Bryce and if it takes a season or two to draft defense so be it. At least Bryce gets to be productive and not look like a damn fool on the offensive side
I get the niners drafting trey lance and obviously it didn't work out for either party's, unlike Carolina San Francisco has talent all across the board they just needed a better QB than Jimmy G.
But with Carolina to trade all that away with 2024 been a better class for QB & wide outs & whatever player's u want to throw in, Carolina just needs to get out of their own way.
The 49ers trade is the worst trade in NFL history by FAR. Based on who they drafted, what they could’ve had if they stayed in that original spot and especially all the picks they gave up to get a bum that barely started and looked incompetent.
Almost any NFL GM would tell you WR is the last piece you want to get.
Possibly, but I notice sometimes once they get a QB they forget he needs someone to pass to.
I disagree fully with this statement. DJ Moore is exactly the guy you would want to try and keep for Bryce. They signed Theiland because they knew he needed a reliable receiver, but didn’t work out.
Carolina Punters!!
The only thing on that panthers offense that is serviceable for Bryce young is litterally 32 year old Adam thielen
Carolina will move to Austin Texas for a fresh restart
Can we give some credit to Houston Texans who might of had the fastest turn around I’ve seen out of a team. Plus still have future draft capital and youth!!! This is coming from a bears fan
i live in Arizona, try being a cardinal fan
Don't quote me on this. I remember Bill Parcells saying if you're going to be the chef, you should be able to shop for the groceries. Frank Reich didn't get that chance.
GM needed fired for mismanagement, not the coach
both need to be fired