I kinda wanna joke and say "Gee I really hope that works out for them", but seriously I wish more business leaders would be that frank and seemingly respectful of the staff. He seems to acknowledge that its the staff that makes it work, not the people in the corner office.
A sober message along with some motivational talk. Did Pan Am ever do those airline refurbishments? From what I've read, the planes were looking rather shabby in Pan Am's final years.
PanAm fue la pionera en operar el B_707 y 747 lo lógico en los 80's hubiera ocurrido lo mismo con el B_757, 767 pero no ocurrió era un reflejo de comienzo de la caída de la compañía
I come from a long ago PA family. My father was with PA for 35+ years, and I started there in 66 before moving to EA/CO/UA later. Flying PA in the 60s and early 70s was always great, service and aircraft were the best. In the later 70s into the 80s I didn't get to fly PA at all, but in 87-89 flew them several times. I took them on such routes as MIA-HOU/MIA-LAX/DFW-MIA even MIA-ATL when naturally they were not the big carrier on the route, but just out of some kind of loyalty I guess, and to give them a shot. Pretty much all the flights were not great, the F service was ok, but nothing exceptional, coach was not poor, but routine. What was clear was the aircraft were tired and old, and the crews were not happy (to be expected). It was a small sample, but probably reflected what was going on. I saw the same kind of thing at EA at the time, you knew there wasn't any long term hope. Really was a disappointment.
El mejor reflejo de como funciona una empresa es ver la actitud de empleados y Panam en últimos 4 años no era lo mísmo de antes ya había perdido algo de brillo
I flew PA in First Class between LAX to JFK in 1986. It was sad to see the end of PA approaching...old and ratty aircraft. I wonder if the cabin refurbishment proposed in this video took place. ✈️✈️✈️
I’m a 70yo Veteran and Retired Pilot who Lost any Pension Years Ago. I’m Barely Surviving on Social Security here in North Carolina. I’m Originally From NYC but I Can’t Live There….. It’s too Expensive. So I don’t see my Children Much Anymore.. if anyone Has any idea of what I should do And where I could go please let me know.
At 11m46s, a clip at the gate appears to show an aircraft named “Clipper Employee Pride”. I’ve compiled an exhaustive list over 25+ years of aircraft names from company records and aviation sites, but this one is new to me.
they all in the end blame labor and labor costs for their failure to manage they take HUGE compensation to run the airline in profit but you did not do your job so you should be FIRED
El fin ya había comenzado en 1978 con la famosa desregularizacion de mercado aereo de estados Unidos donde las demás aerolíneas 🇺🇸 ya podían volar a todo el mundo simplemente PanAm no supo adaptarse al cambio cuando le tocó competir
Home boy basically saying “I have a concept of a plan”. I know this dude got his money a while his plan sucked ass and drove the company into the ground
I’m a 70yo Veteran and Retired Pilot who Lost any Pension Years Ago. I’m Barely Surviving on Social Security here in North Carolina. I’m Originally From NYC but I Can’t Live There….. It’s too Expensive. So I don’t see my Children Much Anymore.. if anyone Has any idea of what I should do And where I could go please let me know.
I kinda wanna joke and say "Gee I really hope that works out for them", but seriously I wish more business leaders would be that frank and seemingly respectful of the staff. He seems to acknowledge that its the staff that makes it work, not the people in the corner office.
This is true. I really hope it works out for them!
Rest in peace, Marty. I believe you did not die of a stroke but of a broken heart.
A sober message along with some motivational talk. Did Pan Am ever do those airline refurbishments? From what I've read, the planes were looking rather shabby in Pan Am's final years.
PanAm fue la pionera en operar el B_707 y 747 lo lógico en los 80's hubiera ocurrido lo mismo con el B_757, 767 pero no ocurrió era un reflejo de comienzo de la caída de la compañía
I come from a long ago PA family. My father was with PA for 35+ years, and I started there in 66 before moving to EA/CO/UA later.
Flying PA in the 60s and early 70s was always great, service and aircraft were the best. In the later 70s into the 80s I didn't get to fly PA at all, but in 87-89 flew them several times.
I took them on such routes as MIA-HOU/MIA-LAX/DFW-MIA even MIA-ATL when naturally they were not the big carrier on the route, but just out of some kind of loyalty I guess, and to give them a shot. Pretty much all the flights were not great, the F service was ok, but nothing exceptional, coach was not poor, but routine. What was clear was the aircraft were tired and old, and the crews were not happy (to be expected). It was a small sample, but probably reflected what was going on. I saw the same kind of thing at EA at the time, you knew there wasn't any long term hope.
Really was a disappointment.
El mejor reflejo de como funciona una empresa es ver la actitud de empleados y Panam en últimos 4 años no era lo mísmo de antes ya había perdido algo de brillo
Fascinating. Does anybody know what confrontational tactics were used at the other airlines he mentioned?
And then there was Locerbie
That was 88 right?
If Pan Am had the technology we have today back in those times.... Pan Am could have become very successful. He seems so angry on a side note.
I flew PA in First Class between LAX to JFK in 1986. It was sad to see the end of PA approaching...old and ratty aircraft. I wonder if the cabin refurbishment proposed in this video took place. ✈️✈️✈️
I’m a 70yo Veteran and Retired Pilot who Lost any Pension Years Ago. I’m Barely Surviving on Social Security here in North Carolina. I’m Originally From NYC but I Can’t Live There….. It’s too Expensive. So I don’t see my Children Much Anymore.. if anyone Has any idea of what I should do And where I could go please let me know.
I hope Pan Am can live again like before
Lo intento en el año 2020 pero proyecto de resurrección nunca progreso
At 11m46s, a clip at the gate appears to show an aircraft named “Clipper Employee Pride”. I’ve compiled an exhaustive list over 25+ years of aircraft names from company records and aviation sites, but this one is new to me.
@5:50 A SOLITARY connection to the island of Ireland ... to Shannon airport. 😅
they all in the end blame labor and labor costs for their failure to manage they take HUGE compensation to run the airline in profit but you did not do your job so you should be FIRED
Wonder how that turned out…..
I know they really tried to make a solid plan to keep the airline in business
This is right before Lockerbie. The beginning of the end for Pan Am.
El fin ya había comenzado en 1978 con la famosa desregularizacion de mercado aereo de estados Unidos donde las demás aerolíneas 🇺🇸 ya podían volar a todo el mundo simplemente PanAm no supo adaptarse al cambio cuando le tocó competir
PanAm or Pan Am?
Either way is good!
747 jumbos just too big to fill
To big to fill and decades before "too big to fail" corporate bail-out plans on the backs of the American taxpayers.
El año de su cierre 1991 tenía muchos jumbos difíciles de llenar así era imposible continuar actividades
They tried.
I flew on Pan Am in February 1987 on a trip to the Bahamas.
How sad
Home boy basically saying “I have a concept of a plan”. I know this dude got his money a while his plan sucked ass and drove the company into the ground
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I’m a 70yo Veteran and Retired Pilot who Lost any Pension Years Ago. I’m Barely Surviving on Social Security here in North Carolina. I’m Originally From NYC but I Can’t Live There….. It’s too Expensive. So I don’t see my Children Much Anymore.. if anyone Has any idea of what I should do And where I could go please let me know.