Thank you for the compliment Johnathan! There are a number of factors: 1) Procedural generation of every Amber Set, which significantly increases production time. 2) Extensive design and playtesting time. 3) High quality materials and an uncompromising QA process. 4) Double-sided paint fills by hand. 5) Slower production time to maximize quality and accuracy of engraving. We think these factors are worth it to create the best product possible, even if it does mean that the cost is higher.
I loved the data tokens for Netrunner, and I can understand the extra time it took to make each unique set. Burr I gotta agree, $68 is quite high. Down the road, would you consider a price reduction for a set of non-unique tokens? Keep up the good work guys.
Not sure what you guys all tried but my armor token suggestion: 1. Make them look like shields to match the card art. 2. Have a 'broken' armor symbol (cracked or something) on the reverse side. When you 'use' an armor each turn, flip it to the cracked side. End of turn, just flip them all face-up. Simple, clean, and binary.
Joined the wait list. Would love to see a supplemental set with three keys and some extra amber for people who just play casually with friends who haven't bought in themselves.
KeyForge community, you are amazing. We have already sold out. Absolute insanity. Join the Waitlist on the Primary Set to be notified when we are back in stock! bit.ly/2TfWLW6
@UCT0_zqao2b2kJBe-bmF_0og That's too bad! For people who are buying this to play at home, rather than playing in OP events, 6 keys seems like it would really be necessary. Oh well!
About armor tokens, how about having them be in some way attachable to damage tokens, so say little triangles with a round inlet that can slide onto a damage token. I imagine it would feel quite nice to get a damage token and then "dock" the armor token onto the damage token to effectively nullify it while also signifying that that armor is used up for the turn. Though for all I know you might have already tried a similar design :D Just thought I'd put it out there
These look great! Managed to get my order in before they sold out, can't wait to use these in person. Thanks again for all your great content, your destiny compatible tokens have always been my favorite to use for that game as well.
These are GORGEOUS and really fit the aesthetic of the game while having their own identity. They're out of my paygrade, but I hope I'll see these in person somewhere. I only know about Covenant from your Phoenixborn tournaments (RIP)... but I'm glad Keyforge is working out for you now.
My brother and I got your token set. We absolutely love them and they are such high quality but we both would love to see armor tokens we find games that we sometimes miss when a neighbor gains armor and keeping track of that can become tough. I know you touched on it but hopefully we can see something in the future.
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At the end of the video you mention that you've created a deluxe starter set that includes two decks. Where do I order that? The only order page I can find is for the tokens themselves.
I'm eagerly waiting for this Deluxe Starter set to be released and have held off on buying the "KeyForge: Call of the Archons" starter set. Is there any news on when its coming out? I can't wait any longer!
We live in Australia so we were just waiting for the Deluxe starter sets to be available from Game shops / Game Websites in Australia. No we are not on the waiting list because we live in Australia.
The token has two sides. One side represents 6 chains, one side represents 1 chain. So, if you have 9 chain, you use one token on side 6 and three tokens on side 1.
@@BCSBuck The package has 7 chain token. The highest you can get before resorting to using other token is 22 (6+6+6+4). If FFG's official tournament FAQ is to be trusted, 20 chain is already a very rare occurrence.
I was very close to buy this but I can‘t get over the barrier that to get 6 keys (three for me and 3 for friends I am playing against who have no own cards yet) I need to buy 2 primary sets which would be 98$ but I‘d have not a single ember token but yet way to many stun, dmg and +1 tokens. That is a dealbreaker for me right now. I think there needs to be a better solution for people like me who don’t expect someone else to pay this money for nice tokens but really want to have an aesthetic and coherent visual experience while playing. Especially with people who don‘t own any decks for themselves I‘d want to enhance the first play experience with the visuell upgrade but paying 100+$ just to get the full experience for bot players seems kind of unfairly calculated. I hope you overthink the policy for this and add another 3 keys to the primary set, Or at least give an option for primary set +3 keys for a small price increase. I hope you hear me. If you do I‘ll buy this stuff because this product looks sooo well thought out except for the point I mentioned. Keep up the great work Team Covenant.
#askcovenant Will there be an option to provide our seed number to buy a matching pattern for decks that might have more then 16 aember generated or captured. got my keyforge token sets love them. Red key looks a bit pink but still great.
Are you guys looking into an UK or EU distributor - would love to access your services, tokens, subscriptions, but the import duty we now get hit with in the UK makes it not economically viable - want to try and support you guys, but it's tough from the UK?
I wasn't able to get a starter set before they sold out so I am on the hunt for tokens and Keys and I've got my heart set on these. Do you guys have any idea how long it will be before we can order these again? -Elvis From Wolf_Squadron_Gaming.
We are hoping to have them restocked within two weeks! The waitlist and newsletter members will know first, so make sure you sign up and select "KeyForge" as a game you are interested in!
Big draw for me on this game is the cost of entrance. The tokens look beautiful and I assume they'll sell out quickly, but I can't justify spending $70 on tokens for a $10 game.
I'm just going to stick to dice. I'd rather be confused if something got knocked over than spend 40 or more on your tokens. I'm sure someone might but it's not for me.
These look amazing! Too bad, that the key and chain tokens don't comply with FFGs recently published tournament regulations. :/ I hope the rules will be changed, before the organized play season actually begins.
Primary set is $49. Amber set is $18. Total is $67. Deluxe starter is both of those and 2 Keyforge decks for $69. So you are tossing in a couple of decks for $1 each?! You're making it difficult for me to save up for the Arkham Horror tokens and boards I've been wanting form you. Excuse me while I buy a couple of deluxe starters.
im really pumped for this game too, but the more i play it the more degenerate decks i see the more i want the chains thing in the app to happen now, there is just some decks that can win every single time no matter.
Why is it that when companys sell acrylic tokens, they are mostly in small sets and cost close to a fortune, but when smaller etsy shops make tokens in larger sets, in the exact same material they are sold for a sum that is acceptable? Yeah, sure, you sold out the first batch, wich is understandable due to the popularity of the game, but if you really want to make big money and reach out to every player, a more affordable option would be better. For me, living in Sweden, 70 USD+ tax and shipping is alot of money, expecially when I can get a much larger set of acrylic or even aluminim tokens from etsy, inc tax and shipping for between 24 - 50 USD. Dont get me wrong, I do think the tokens look amazing, and they remove the whole aspect of stun and powercards, I sadly HAVE to resort to making my purchase via etsy due to getting almost the exakt same thing, only larger and alot more affordable.
The tokens look really good but I have never understood why do you overprice them so much. Processing time and R&D are not valid reasons imo. I recently paid about $109 for Tidal Blades Deluxe Kickstarter with a massive upgrade of components, unlocked extras AND an expansion. The amount of time, components and r&d they put into the game put to shame what you are offering for $69. You are offering an upgrade. Just that. A couple dozen PLASTIC pieces which by themselves cost $3. There is no hand painted and unique set design that makes this $69 worth. And it only caters to one player?? You make boardgaming inaccessible to many. Gladly one can find upgrades like yours for 1/3 of your price. Thanks a lot Greedies!
You sold out in less than 2 hours. After hyping the game online for 3 months and your components for the last month and you massively under produce. Poor form. Unless you'll be back in stock within a week or so, but that seems unlikely.
Hey Jarrod. We actually maxed out production on these and launched with our largest opening order to date. Very likely that they will be back in stock next week. Glad you dig them!
guys this is awesome , but the price is really high and I really dont get why, can you explain?
Thank you for the compliment Johnathan! There are a number of factors:
1) Procedural generation of every Amber Set, which significantly increases production time.
2) Extensive design and playtesting time.
3) High quality materials and an uncompromising QA process.
4) Double-sided paint fills by hand.
5) Slower production time to maximize quality and accuracy of engraving.
We think these factors are worth it to create the best product possible, even if it does mean that the cost is higher.
I loved the data tokens for Netrunner, and I can understand the extra time it took to make each unique set. Burr I gotta agree, $68 is quite high.
Down the road, would you consider a price reduction for a set of non-unique tokens?
Keep up the good work guys.
Not sure what you guys all tried but my armor token suggestion:
1. Make them look like shields to match the card art.
2. Have a 'broken' armor symbol (cracked or something) on the reverse side.
When you 'use' an armor each turn, flip it to the cracked side. End of turn, just flip them all face-up.
Simple, clean, and binary.
Joined the wait list. Would love to see a supplemental set with three keys and some extra amber for people who just play casually with friends who haven't bought in themselves.
I was thinking the same thing. Love these tokens! Good job!
Love the idea of adding an aspect of each set of aember tokens being unique, great idea!
Congrats on the first wave selling out so quickly as well.
Thank you! Great to hear from you!
I was literally wondering just yesterday if we'd be getting these, and here they are! Just ordered a set and couldn't be happier about it.
Thank you so much Michael!
KeyForge community, you are amazing. We have already sold out. Absolute insanity.
Join the Waitlist on the Primary Set to be notified when we are back in stock! bit.ly/2TfWLW6
Do you know if there will be an option to purchase 3 additional keys, to get parity with the FFG starter?
That is unlikely, but we are looking at it!
@UCT0_zqao2b2kJBe-bmF_0og That's too bad! For people who are buying this to play at home, rather than playing in OP events, 6 keys seems like it would really be necessary. Oh well!
Is there an expected timeframe for restock?
Had my heart set on another set of 3rd party tokens, but you won me over with the unique AEmber sets. Looks phenomenal guys.
Absolutely love hearing this! Thank you Plautus!
I came here for your Keyforge videos. I have the starter set but will consider getting these in the future!
Great to hear from you! Thank you for your consideration.
I tip my hat to your idea of prcedurally generated tokens.
It's perfect for this game! :D
Thanks!
About armor tokens, how about having them be in some way attachable to damage tokens, so say little triangles with a round inlet that can slide onto a damage token. I imagine it would feel quite nice to get a damage token and then "dock" the armor token onto the damage token to effectively nullify it while also signifying that that armor is used up for the turn. Though for all I know you might have already tried a similar design :D Just thought I'd put it out there
These look great! Managed to get my order in before they sold out, can't wait to use these in person. Thanks again for all your great content, your destiny compatible tokens have always been my favorite to use for that game as well.
Thank you Will! Always great to see your name on the channel. Appreciate your support!
Boom. Ordered. Nice job, TC!
Thank you Todd! Appreciate you!
Procedurally generated tokens and including the seed number is very clever - well done!
Thank you Andrew, we hope you enjoy them!
These are GORGEOUS and really fit the aesthetic of the game while having their own identity. They're out of my paygrade, but I hope I'll see these in person somewhere.
I only know about Covenant from your Phoenixborn tournaments (RIP)... but I'm glad Keyforge is working out for you now.
Thank you Tim! It is great to hear from you. We miss those Phoenixborn tournaments!
My brother and I got your token set. We absolutely love them and they are such high quality but we both would love to see armor tokens we find games that we sometimes miss when a neighbor gains armor and keeping track of that can become tough. I know you touched on it but hopefully we can see something in the future.
These look great! Any idea when the Deluxe Starter sets will be offered again?
We are waiting on a restock of decks. As soon as we get those in, Deluxe Starters will go live again!
Can’t wait to get in my order for these. Hopefully in a week or two to get them before February.
Love my tokens. No regrets. So glad they became available rather than needing to wait weeks. I got them 12/31/18.
Cool tokens, but the amber looks nothing like the ones on the cards.
Those original tokens are so freaking awesome!
Thanks Sumo!
Well dang! These look great! I wouldn’t have preordered if I knew y’all would make a starter kit! Oh well. I may still grab a set anyways.
Thank you for the love Zeke!
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Will these key tokens be allowed since they don't meet the "easily discernible differences between
their “A” and “B” sides" requirement?
We are pretty certain they will be allowed. There is a clearly distinguishable front and back - different designs.
Making them different really helps when as*holes steal your stuff. Now I can call them out and show what is mine.
At the end of the video you mention that you've created a deluxe starter set that includes two decks. Where do I order that? The only order page I can find is for the tokens themselves.
We are currently out of decks! We are hoping to restock soon and as soon as we do, we will share it on social media and the podcast!
I'm eagerly waiting for this Deluxe Starter set to be released and have held off on buying the "KeyForge: Call of the Archons" starter set. Is there any news on when its coming out? I can't wait any longer!
As soon as we can get some more decks in it will be available! Are you on the waitlist?
We live in Australia so we were just waiting for the Deluxe starter sets to be available from Game shops / Game Websites in Australia. No we are not on the waiting list because we live in Australia.
They look great. Definitely getting a set when I get paid. Looking forward to more content.
Thank you! We will be playing on our Monday Livestream on Facebook. It will start around 4pm central if you are available!
I'm a bit confused about how those chain trackers actually track chains.
The token has two sides. One side represents 6 chains, one side represents 1 chain. So, if you have 9 chain, you use one token on side 6 and three tokens on side 1.
@@ravenknightvincent2722 but they only show 4, how do you represent 11 chains?
@@BCSBuck The package has 7 chain token. The highest you can get before resorting to using other token is 22 (6+6+6+4). If FFG's official tournament FAQ is to be trusted, 20 chain is already a very rare occurrence.
@@ravenknightvincent2722 thanks, that makes more sense
I was very close to buy this but I can‘t get over the barrier that to get 6 keys (three for me and 3 for friends I am playing against who have no own cards yet) I need to buy 2 primary sets which would be 98$ but I‘d have not a single ember token but yet way to many stun, dmg and +1 tokens. That is a dealbreaker for me right now.
I think there needs to be a better solution for people like me who don’t expect someone else to pay this money for nice tokens but really want to have an aesthetic and coherent visual experience while playing. Especially with people who don‘t own any decks for themselves I‘d want to enhance the first play experience with the visuell upgrade but paying 100+$ just to get the full experience for bot players seems kind of unfairly calculated.
I hope you overthink the policy for this and add another 3 keys to the primary set, Or at least give an option for primary set +3 keys for a small price increase. I hope you hear me. If you do I‘ll buy this stuff because this product looks sooo well thought out except for the point I mentioned. Keep up the great work Team Covenant.
Wish these deluxe starters were available for order before the FFG starter arrived in my mailbox 😕
I am really starting to like this game the more I see it! Hope I get a chance to play the game soon.
So do we!
Is it possible to buy the tokens separately or are they strictly paired with your Deluxe Starter Set?
They are available separately! You can view them here: bit.ly/2OL3N1G
When is the Deluxe Starter set going to be released?
The only thing we are waiting on is more decks. As soon as we get those in, the Deluxe 1player starters will be available again!
Worth the wait! Now to get out and play the game!
Thanks Nik! We hope you enjoy them as much as we do!
#askcovenant Will there be an option to provide our seed number to buy a matching pattern for decks that might have more then 16 aember generated or captured. got my keyforge token sets love them. Red key looks a bit pink but still great.
Great question Adam! Keep an eye on upcoming podcasts where the hosts will answer your question on the air.
Are you guys looking into an UK or EU distributor - would love to access your services, tokens, subscriptions, but the import duty we now get hit with in the UK makes it not economically viable - want to try and support you guys, but it's tough from the UK?
We have been wondering about this as well, and are trying to make things easier on our international friends!
I wasn't able to get a starter set before they sold out so I am on the hunt for tokens and Keys and I've got my heart set on these. Do you guys have any idea how long it will be before we can order these again?
-Elvis From Wolf_Squadron_Gaming.
We are hoping to have them restocked within two weeks! The waitlist and newsletter members will know first, so make sure you sign up and select "KeyForge" as a game you are interested in!
Unfortunate that they introduced WARD which look almost identical to your stunned tokens....awesome designs still.
We'll have some updated Ward/Enrage soon to better distinguish the difference.
I feel like I’m being dense here, but how do those chain tokens work?
Definitely wish the stun tokens were yellow for consistency
Say I buy a set of aember tokens and I hapen to get seed 1021, would I be able to put in an order for more of that seed token?
That is something we are currently working through. Possibly yes, eventually!
Big draw for me on this game is the cost of entrance. The tokens look beautiful and I assume they'll sell out quickly, but I can't justify spending $70 on tokens for a $10 game.
We all know KeyForge only STARTS as a $10 game...haha.
No worries though! Who knows, maybe throw them on a Christmas list and see what happens!
good idea but im not paying over 70 dollars for tokens
No worries! Thank you for checking them out!
These guys are the top teir when it comes to tokens.
While you will find many cheaper, you won't find any better
The unique amber tokens by themselves seem like a decent buy. Those are the star of the show for me.
Yeah, I agree I've found other stuff for a much more reasonable price. This is WAY over priced. Looks cool, but will definitely look elsewhere.
is this enough for two-players is just one i don't mind?
The Deluxe Starter is only enough for one player. You could get another set of Amber Tokens and it might be enough for two, depending on the decks.
I'm just going to stick to dice. I'd rather be confused if something got knocked over than spend 40 or more on your tokens. I'm sure someone might but it's not for me.
No problem Luis. Thank you for checking them out!
FFG doesn’t allow dice in tournaments by the way.
@@SnackeyG I'm aware of this.
#askcovenant do y'all think you'll make a threat tracker compatible with lotr lcg?
Great question! Thank you for using #AskCovenant!
Those will be ordered!
Thank you so much Mads!
Einhorn is Finkle, Finkle is Einhorn. THEY ARE BROTHERS!!!!
This stuff looks more like an expansion for Azul, than tokens for Keyforge.
These look amazing! Too bad, that the key and chain tokens don't comply with FFGs recently published tournament regulations. :/
I hope the rules will be changed, before the organized play season actually begins.
We are pretty certain they will be allowed. There is a clearly distinguishable front and back - different designs.
Primary set is $49. Amber set is $18. Total is $67.
Deluxe starter is both of those and 2 Keyforge decks for $69. So you are tossing in a couple of decks for $1 each?!
You're making it difficult for me to save up for the Arkham Horror tokens and boards I've been wanting form you. Excuse me while I buy a couple of deluxe starters.
great thinking
Thank you! We are pretty amped about them.
im really pumped for this game too, but the more i play it the more degenerate decks i see the more i want the chains thing in the app to happen now, there is just some decks that can win every single time no matter.
This one is KeyForge Tokens!!!
And they look beautiful!
Thank you Chris! We hope you enjoy playing with them!
They look amazing but "just" a bit expensive
No worries Simon, thank you for checking them out!
Man I couldn't play without both Power and Armor designations.
Big downside are the Amber tokens.. It's not yellow/gold.
No worries! Thanks for checking them out!
Why is it that when companys sell acrylic tokens, they are mostly in small sets and cost close to a fortune, but when smaller etsy shops make tokens in larger sets, in the exact same material they are sold for a sum that is acceptable?
Yeah, sure, you sold out the first batch, wich is understandable due to the popularity of the game, but if you really want to make big money and reach out to every player, a more affordable option would be better.
For me, living in Sweden, 70 USD+ tax and shipping is alot of money, expecially when I can get a much larger set of acrylic or even aluminim tokens from etsy, inc tax and shipping for between 24 - 50 USD.
Dont get me wrong, I do think the tokens look amazing, and they remove the whole aspect of stun and powercards, I sadly HAVE to resort to making my purchase via etsy due to getting almost the exakt same thing, only larger and alot more affordable.
The tokens look really good but I have never understood why do you overprice them so much. Processing time and R&D are not valid reasons imo. I recently paid about $109 for Tidal Blades Deluxe Kickstarter with a massive upgrade of components, unlocked extras AND an expansion. The amount of time, components and r&d they put into the game put to shame what you are offering for $69. You are offering an upgrade. Just that. A couple dozen PLASTIC pieces which by themselves cost $3. There is no hand painted and unique set design that makes this $69 worth. And it only caters to one player?? You make boardgaming inaccessible to many. Gladly one can find upgrades like yours for 1/3 of your price. Thanks a lot Greedies!
No worries Jano, our tokens are not for everyone! Thanks for checking them out.
You sold out in less than 2 hours. After hyping the game online for 3 months and your components for the last month and you massively under produce. Poor form. Unless you'll be back in stock within a week or so, but that seems unlikely.
Hey Jarrod. We actually maxed out production on these and launched with our largest opening order to date. Very likely that they will be back in stock next week. Glad you dig them!