Wattcycle Batteries (affiliate link): www.wattcycle.com/collections/all?ref=aaezwkkc Amazon Link to Battery: amzn.to/4e91Mrv Other 12V batteries I recommend: www.mobile-solarpower.com/lithium-batteries.html 0:00 Intro and Capacity Test Results 1:20 Surge Testing! Max Output Amps 3:53 Tear Down 4:23 Low Temp Test 4:37 Conclusion
I have a question.. 3 years ago I bought 6 battle born battery's for my new house. It took my remodel 3 years I just opened them up and the shut off at 13.1 and go down to 5.4 volts. I call them and they refused to help in any way. I paid $975 each plus tax. Am I wrong for being piss?
man, I wish you could donate me one of those batteries 😢.. I use old flooded lead acid, but they are not working now. I am battery less, haha.. love your videos from jamaica 🇯🇲
They don’t need better advertising, Will. The price on Amazon went from 179 to 209 right after you dropped this video. A good review from you is the best advertising anybody can get.😂
@@AkashicSeer some of those 1stars are left by people with zero troubleshooting ability. A pain in the ass healthy battery that should have been rated 3 stars winds up rated 1 by people who depend on foolproof plug and play 😅
@@AkashicSeer I suspect that because Wattcycle's products are both inexpensive and of good quality, the competitors have manipulated the reviews against it. I've been using Wattcycle's batteries for six months already and haven't had any problems during this long period. The batteries are very well-balanced. You can purchase them without worry!
On sale again on temu for 132, gonna get another 8 to make 4s4p (maximum configuration). 20kw of power for less than 1000 bucks. I will need more solar panels tho lol😂. Charging my tesla with the setup currently. The added juice will definitely help.
I have decided that whenever I want to feel stupid, I come to your channel. I know a lot about a lot of things, but when it comes to electricity and solar setup, I do not know very much. Here I am, female pushing 70, watching someone who looks to be his early 20s pour out knowledge after knowledge that I don't know on all his videos. Electricity is something I never learned about but always wanted to. I've been shocked by 110, 220 and even been in a car that was hit by a lightning bolt. Maybe someday I will have a chance to go solar and will be able to pick your brain about it. Good for you, young man! I hope you go far in this world!
Let me just add that lightning from inside a car is extremely loud and bright. It was an old car whose analog clock did not work, but after the lightning strike, it started working again. Mind you now, I am not suggesting lightning strikes as a way to get free car repairs!
I recently purchased this battery, and it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is outstanding. I've reached out to their customer service team multiple times with inquiries about the app and charging, and each time I have received prompt and courteous assistance. This product has quickly become my go-to, and I'm eagerly anticipating the upcoming Black Friday deals before prices increase. Excellent video, Will!
Thanks Will.. I'm using the batteries from Wattcycle. It has been six months since I installed them on my RV and so far, I haven't encountered any problems. The customer service is also very responsive. They often update their instructional videos on RUclips. I think it's really great.
I also bought the 12V 300AH mini battery of Wattcycle and used it in my RV as well. This battery is really small. It looks like it's only the size of a normal 100AH lead-acid battery. However, its capacity is indeed sufficient. There haven't been any problems even after using it for two months.
@@SamuelHolden688 Have you done a capacity test? Because the issue with "mini" batteries is that there's not really a real indicator if they are accurate or not.
@@billienomates7100 Yes, I've confirmed that the capacity is accurate. I have a coulomb meter with which I can see it clearly. Additionally, all the electrical appliances in my vehicle add up to 1000 watts. When they are all turned on, it can last for approximately three hours. It's far superior to the three 100AH batteries I bought before.
@@billienomates7100 Yes, I've confirmed that the capacity is accurate. I have a coulomb meter with which I can see it clearly. Additionally, all the electrical appliances in my vehicle add up to 1000 watts. When they are all turned on, it can last for approximately three hours. It's far superior to the three 100AH batteries I bought before.
I purchased one of these in February 2024, and it performs flawlessly on my RV. Most of my camping is at non-electric sites, so charge it with 2 100w panels and a PowMr 1220. Thanks for ripping one of these open and confirming what they advertise.
I just started with solar, about 2 years ago. 1850 watts of panels. 100|50 victron + 2x 100ah lithium. I learned about your forum shortly after...It's quite helpful. I wish I had half the knowledge you have regarding solar.
I recently purchased the Miady 12v 100ah battery off of Amazon because it was so cheap I couldn’t resist. I would love to see you do a break down of that unit if you haven’t already done one. Thanks for your honest reviews of these things. It is possibly the only way we can keep these overseas companies honest. Keep it up!
That's awesome to hear! We're so glad the Watt Cycle battery has been performing reliably for you for a whole year after testing. We aim to deliver great quality at a price that makes sense, so your feedback is really valuable to us. Thanks for sticking with us!
Guess what! My favourite brand of batteries has finally been discovered by everyone! I've had this 100Ah lithium iron phosphate battery for 6 months now and it works great! Especially their after-sales service is exceptionally good! They were really helpful and dealt with the small problems I encountered!
I literally JUST ordered their mini 100ah w/ Bluetooth for $180... like 15min ago. Cold protection and Bluetooth... and smaller than a schedule 24?! I wouldn't have bought it had it not been for the good reviews this company has been getting.
I'm so glad I watched this. I bought 4 of these on TEMU for $150 ea., and you just confirmed what I was always wondering about. Just replaced 4 6v trojans, after 5 yrs, and these have worked better than those. I'was pretty happy with my purchase, but I think you just made me feel ecstatic about the purchase. Going on 4months, and they work flawlessly.Nice video!
Will, great video, as always. However, I was wondering if you take any steps to conceal your identity when you order items for testing? It would be a simple matter for one of these companies to ship Will Prowse a premium product that they produce just for him. A great review by Will would make their sales boom, even if they raise the price by 50% over night.
Thanks Will. Just snagged 2. 2 100 Ah, over/under protection for a little over $300. That's insane! I doubt they'll last long before they're sold out. Your the best!
I love your budget battery tear downs! Please do teardowns of a cheap batteries with Bluetooth. The Mehrpow battery is only $5 more than the WattCycle.
I just installed a Siekon 100Ah you checked out and installed it today. plugged it in, 13.2 volts and ran what little DC load I had, one exhaust fan and 3 LED Camper light fixtures, I know, it's not much but it's all that came with the camper. Planning on putting a Max Air fan and my BougeRV 41L cooler in there soon after I get some DC adapters wired in. I think I paid about the same price for that one you paid for this one. I coupled my battery with a 200W Bouge RV Bi-facial solar panel that was around $200 and my Renogy 40A MPPT I already had from previous Solar installation.
Yeah, you can do a lot with one of these, especially if you have a 100 to 160 watt solar panel on the roof. I run a compressor cooler fridge, diesel heater, lights, and fans. And I have power left over to charge up my laptop during the day. I paid like $800 for my Battleborn. I just bought one of these for extra storage capacity in the event of a few days of clouds/rain.
They sent me one of these for free I've been waiting for someone reputable to make a video to see if it's a scam. Haven't watched the whole video yet. Watching it now before I promote to my viewers. If it's a scam then it's a no-go I'll send it back. Edit: mine is the Bluetooth "smart" one
Awesome video, thank you so much, Will! I was just browsing Amazon for lithium battery brands and saw that LiTime launched an all-in-one model with low-temp heating and Bluetooth-and it’s priced pretty well too! I’d love to see a comparison video on it if you’re up for it.
Budget 12v batteries are imo the best way to go for me. Cheap to replace and you can build pretty good size banks with them. I prefer to replace a $200 battery vs a $1500 server pack anyday but thats just me.
Bought 2 of these and just installed them as a replacement for my house batteries. They are fully charged and we shall see how they do. I installed lithium 36 volt batteries in my golf last year and really like them. I also have a whole array of Ecoflow gear, 2 Delta Pro's with 2 batteries each, that will run my motorhome and 3 Delta 2's we use to run equipment used during production on MMTV and a Delta mini. Love Ecoflow gear...obviously. Thank you Will for what you do, I try to stay up on your equipment reviews, always interesting and fact based!
@zenobikraweznick Because you can roll then down the hill, and they still work. Because the company is very responsive And will answer any question that you may have.
Thank you very much for your support and recommendation! We are glad that you are satisfied with Wattcycle, and we will continue to work hard to provide quality products and services.
I was considering that battery. I appreciate your review before the tariffs hit, especially so I’ll move forward and I thank you if I have any trouble with it, I’ll post it.
If you read the Amazon reviews, many of the 4 and 5 star reviews say their first battery failed but they’re happy since the company shipped them a new battery. I love a low price, but not at the expense of durability, no matter how friendly the customer support!
This makes me wonder if the "failure" of the battery was due to inexperienced install or use. For example, did they try to use it while too cold or too hot and not let the battery "reset", or maybe they over-discharged it and don't know how to charge it while at too low of a Voltage for the BMS to activate it? These are just a couple of reasons that LiFePO4 batteries could stop working. There could be others an amateur like myself may not know.
@@Tumbleweed5150except many of those reviews describe going through a diagnostic procedure with the company tech support… only then did they replace the batteries. Seems like the company would ask the obvious like when PC support folks ask “did you reboot the PC?”
Correspondence with a company was very very good. In fact after they watched my teardown video and me taping it back together so I can still use it. They even sent me another battery to replace the one that I destroyed. And now they’re sending me a 300 amp hours they do make larger batteries.
Just purchased 2 Newtipower 300 amp hour batteries...I got them on sale for $450 each and they threw in 2 free lithium chargers that sell for $25 each...Had these batteries for 4 months and they work flawlessly.
The price is going up after your video 179-209 range. Saw one at 159 for first time. Future storage 3k system at least for a Ford E-transit high ceiling and extend. 😊
I enjoy your videos and enthusiasm. You have the heart of a teacher. Thank you for your channel. I'm learning so much. I direct anyone I meet that expresses an interest in PV / solar energy to your channel.
I’m always surprised when I go back and check LifePo4 pricing. Saw redodos drop their price and then a Prime sale coming so I waited for it and got 4 12v100 ah base group 24’s for $149.67 USD each with free shipping. I am pleased to have a forced air furnace backup power system for that price. Two summers ago I was pleased to have a 12v 300 amp LiFePo4 battery bank in my camper for $1,500, SOK, and in 2016 I was blown away with my 200amp Battleborn setup without a lithium specific charger and without solar in my camper at $1,500. Got them before they jumped to $900 ea.
Will, Will. Will! Please always wear Safety glasses. You have an excellent, Beautiful setup. But the Batteries are unknown till after you are done. Please protect that of which you only have 2 of.
I have 16 of these batteries that have been up and running for over 6 months now wired series parallel for 24volts. I've had no issues so far. I started out with a few batteries and liked them so I bought more. I actually bought 4 more batteries after I got that system set up for other projects. The price was great! BTY - I've been off-grid for 42 years. I've gone through lots of batteries over the years. Your videos are great!
I have 6 of these and have had no problems with them at all. Very well made blow my mind and all test above 100 ah when I got them been using for around 6 months now with no issue
Just ordered 3 of group 31 verson of the wattcycle lifepro 4 batteries. thanks for the overview and testing. Even cheaper than your quoted price. 3 of them billed at $667.00 plus tax. Delivery estimated November 29, 2024. Ken
I just picked up 2 Eco-Worthy 12.8v/100Ah batteries on sale on Amazon for $175 each shipped. I did a capacity test of one of them on my RUclips channel and got 1330 watt hours out of it. Definitely an awesome deal.
Just in case, in Europe they are sold as DC House, but that's apparently the same company. Got 4x48v50ah from them. No exposed BMS, but fits small 9KVA system pretty well.
@@79gbellthey just raised the price from 469 to 559 . Also they raised the price on the 100ah batteries. But good news flow just release there 100ah battery for cheaper with a 300amp 30 second surge and better constructed
I own a no name 120Ah Lifepo4 battery purchased on eBay a year ago that replaced 2x 100Ah AGM batteries. It's connected to a 50A DCDC Booster, according to the manual it can only handle 45A but so far it's working just fine. The battery performs well, it gives me 3 1/2 days in my RV just like the AGM did running a compressor cooling box, lighting and phone charging. I doubt it has the 120Ah, more like 100 but for the money I'm super happy.
I've bought two in the last six months for my small emergency system. Three 100W solar panels, 30A charge controller and 2000W psw inverter. I may get a third at the new price because both mine were $190/$200 when I got them. I've had no issues so far and seeing the build quality makes me happy about my purchase.
Nice to see that you reviewed this battery when new. However, Mr. Off Grid from the off-grid mountain homestead has a different opinion on these batteries. He reviews them after he has put them threw several charge cycles. He did a review and it was not good. Apparently, that bms does not keep the individual cells balance. I think he measured them and would have one cell that would top out at 3.65V and the other cells were completely different voltages with the lowest being like 3.4V. At the end, he said that he was going to upgrade the bms to a JK. Something to keep in mind....
Thank you for letting us know, I just watched that video, then went on amazon to read 1 star reviews and decided not to buy these $155 batteries. If its too good to be true, it probably is
In the review/tear down he did 4 months ago, he was absolutely praising the heck out it. The battery in the review you're referring to is a 100ah trolling battery. The one in the 4 month old review was a 100ah group 24. So maybe he got a "bum" battery. I was going to sat he should warranty if with WattCycle, but I don't think they'll ball, now that Mr. Off Grid has dissected it. I'm also curious about the BMS, the one in the older review was labeled "Schenzhen Washi Energy Co." and the BMS in the trolling battery had no labeling. Is Wattcycle now using a different BMS supplier?
Good to know they are using the cells on their side, so you'll probably want to use the battery on its side too (it's needed for LiFePo4 cells right?).
I just purchased 4 from their website $186 each with taxes delivered. The 4 of them were less the 1 (of the 2) I bought in 2018 for my RV. Upgrade the RV, use the 2 old ones to run solar lights at the entrance of my property where there is no power. Christmas early.
@@danieldorchester5221 nice. I just purchased a 6000XP to go along with mine. Still looking for the best deals on bifacial panels. Sig Solar is out of the most recent ones Will recommends...
@@justinw1765 maby but I think tariffs might start increasing prices. The past few months are the lowest I have seen. I don’t feel there is any more downside ? If I’m wrong there won’t be much 5% at the most?
I have this battery under my desk, powering my mini PC. Mine was from Temu. That looks like a TDT BMS. I had it on a Renogy Rover 40A for a couple weeks. I beat the tariffs by buying 56 314Ah and 16 280Ah Hithium cells. That'll give me far more storage than I expect to need but I couldn't resist at $40 and $42 per cell before shipping, tax, and transaction fees. I'd buy the battery in this video based on my experience with the one I use and your review. It's supposed to be safe to parallel up to 4 of them.
It would be great, if you could review replacements for normal starter batteries, which are rated high for cold cranking & have thermal protection for winter time.
I built my own battery thanks to your videos. I still believe you can build a better battery cheaper. Case in point. I have 8 280ah 3.65v cells in series with a BMS and spent less than a grand all in a space smaller than three of those batteries.
Hey. You think you can help me put together a parts list for my sprinter van build as I don’t got clue on solar I would like to have maybe a 5kw system put inside of it Thnks
This is something I am looking for to use my CPAP on the road. Are there enclosures for this that also have outlets and such, because paying a thousand dollars or so for something from EcoFlow or the like is just insane for me. What type of solar panels would be needed to recharge this thing while on the road and/or plugged-in? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE NEED ANSWERS TO!!!!
Great video, I always love the teardown video. TEMU has the Group 31 Pro version for $133.32 right now. I found out that the same seller will sell the same product on Amazon at a higher price, about 25% more than TEMU, I bought a push cart from TEMU and it was dropped shipped from Amazon. BTW, the inside looks and is built the same as HUMSIENK battery.
I have had one of these in my 2018 nissan leaf for about 4 months as the sole 12v battery. No issues other than it was a tight squeeze getting it to fit and the terminals were reversed from what was ideal for my vehicle but i made it work.
Wattcycle’s corporate site is pretty good. They list many different batteries up to 36 volts. Interestingly, they also have a category “like new batteries” which apparently use recycled cells which Wattcycle describes as “A+ cells.” Thumbs up for honesty. It looks like the prices jumped once the word of mouth got out.
Eco-Worthy now selling on Amazon 12V 100AH battery with low temp cutoff, power monitor on board display and Bluetooth App battery monitor retailing around $200 but as low as $189. Not sure if using shunt or trying to measure capacity with voltage which I thought was next to impossible with Lithium. Best deal I have seen and really cheap if all the features work. Not sure about quality or construction but website says Grade A cells. Love to see this one opened up.
Hey. Why haven’t you done the new EcoFlow 100ah lipo. 199 bucks on amazon. Have been Battleborn fan for years. Bought 4 of these. They are amazing. Thanks
You're wearing an Asbestos Dust respirator, You need to get one with Black filters, that indicates they are Activated Carbon and will filter out any harmful vapors, though the purple ones do work somewhat for welding smoke (FUME).
I just bought 4 12v 100ah size24. They are on back order and have increased their prices. I managed to get a discount of 10 percent through chatting in their message system. Ended up paying 167 each delivered with tax. Thanks will!
I have received my batts on the 15th. It took app. 14 days to receive them from back order, very good I think. I tested upon arrival and they are all at 13.21, very good I think. So far so good! I havent connected them just yet, soon though. I was wondering if anyone that reads this has a recommendation for a 3 to 5k watt inverter/charger w/bluetooth or remote display, it would be greatly appreciated? I am eyeballing a Litime 12v or 24v 3k inverter/charger for 250 and 450, anyone have experiene with these two chargers and are pleased with them?
Wattcycle Batteries (affiliate link): www.wattcycle.com/collections/all?ref=aaezwkkc
Amazon Link to Battery: amzn.to/4e91Mrv
Other 12V batteries I recommend: www.mobile-solarpower.com/lithium-batteries.html
0:00 Intro and Capacity Test Results
1:20 Surge Testing! Max Output Amps
3:53 Tear Down
4:23 Low Temp Test
4:37 Conclusion
I have a question.. 3 years ago I bought 6 battle born battery's for my new house. It took my remodel 3 years I just opened them up and the shut off at 13.1 and go down to 5.4 volts. I call them and they refused to help in any way. I paid $975 each plus tax. Am I wrong for being piss?
Have you tried to test HQST batteries? I know you tested their solar panels. With discount code they cost $155 w/free shipping.
@@AkashicSeersaw the same thing. If they don't work you have to pay shipping costs and it's about $70 dollars
How much do you hate China? Many people should be thankful because China makes everything cheap with subsidies.
man, I wish you could donate me one of those batteries 😢.. I use old flooded lead acid, but they are not working now. I am battery less, haha.. love your videos from jamaica 🇯🇲
Dude, it's because of people like you ripping these open on RUclips that the quality has vastly improved. Thanks as always.
They don’t need better advertising, Will. The price on Amazon went from 179 to 209 right after you dropped this video.
A good review from you is the best advertising anybody can get.😂
Mine says $169. Tine stamp 9:08 am 10/27/24
Says $169 now
It's $209 now
Give it a minutes to drop. Mine did the same but Temu is still cheaper by $30.
@@TheGaBandit
Doesn't temu take like a month or more for delivery?
Got 8 of these when they are on sale. Got them around 130 usd each. Used them with reliable 3kw inverter. No issues what so ever.
@@AkashicSeer some of those 1stars are left by people with zero troubleshooting ability.
A pain in the ass healthy battery that should have been rated 3 stars winds up rated 1 by people who depend on foolproof plug and play 😅
@@AkashicSeer I suspect that because Wattcycle's products are both inexpensive and of good quality, the competitors have manipulated the reviews against it. I've been using Wattcycle's batteries for six months already and haven't had any problems during this long period. The batteries are very well-balanced. You can purchase them without worry!
That's Exactly what I did. Buy a couple 12 Volt and a couple for my 24 volt 100 AH
On sale again on temu for 132, gonna get another 8 to make 4s4p (maximum configuration). 20kw of power for less than 1000 bucks. I will need more solar panels tho lol😂. Charging my tesla with the setup currently. The added juice will definitely help.
@@xingq1246 OMG Im paying 25 more than u now
I have decided that whenever I want to feel stupid, I come to your channel. I know a lot about a lot of things, but when it comes to electricity and solar setup, I do not know very much. Here I am, female pushing 70, watching someone who looks to be his early 20s pour out knowledge after knowledge that I don't know on all his videos.
Electricity is something I never learned about but always wanted to. I've been shocked by 110, 220 and even been in a car that was hit by a lightning bolt. Maybe someday I will have a chance to go solar and will be able to pick your brain about it.
Good for you, young man! I hope you go far in this world!
+100 but he's not in his 20s .... ;-)
Good old faraday cage... the car that is that you were in when the lightning hit.
Can we use lightning rods to charge electric cars?? Hmm.. so glad you are okay!!
Lightning is definitely NOT low boltage
Let me just add that lightning from inside a car is extremely loud and bright. It was an old car whose analog clock did not work, but after the lightning strike, it started working again. Mind you now, I am not suggesting lightning strikes as a way to get free car repairs!
I recently purchased this battery, and it has exceeded my expectations. The quality is outstanding. I've reached out to their customer service team multiple times with inquiries about the app and charging, and each time I have received prompt and courteous assistance. This product has quickly become my go-to, and I'm eagerly anticipating the upcoming Black Friday deals before prices increase. Excellent video, Will!
Thanks man. I'm convinced that you showing the guts of the batteries is making them build a better product. Keep it up man.
Thanks Will.. I'm using the batteries from Wattcycle. It has been six months since I installed them on my RV and so far, I haven't encountered any problems. The customer service is also very responsive. They often update their instructional videos on RUclips. I think it's really great.
I also bought the 12V 300AH mini battery of Wattcycle and used it in my RV as well. This battery is really small. It looks like it's only the size of a normal 100AH lead-acid battery. However, its capacity is indeed sufficient. There haven't been any problems even after using it for two months.
@@SamuelHolden688 That sounds good. It might be a new product. There wasn't the 12V 300AH version when I made the purchase before.
@@SamuelHolden688 Have you done a capacity test? Because the issue with "mini" batteries is that there's not really a real indicator if they are accurate or not.
@@billienomates7100 Yes, I've confirmed that the capacity is accurate. I have a coulomb meter with which I can see it clearly. Additionally, all the electrical appliances in my vehicle add up to 1000 watts. When they are all turned on, it can last for approximately three hours. It's far superior to the three 100AH batteries I bought before.
@@billienomates7100 Yes, I've confirmed that the capacity is accurate. I have a coulomb meter with which I can see it clearly. Additionally, all the electrical appliances in my vehicle add up to 1000 watts. When they are all turned on, it can last for approximately three hours. It's far superior to the three 100AH batteries I bought before.
Someday Will folks will realize you are the reason these guys are building better!
Will is literally an influencer.
Yep, both he and project farm test the products, so the products have to be good.
Just ordered 50 amp for my trolling motor. used your affiliate link, thanks.
You just made my day, I have 20 of these. Bought 4 which were working good so I bought 16 more when they were on sale.
I purchased one of these in February 2024, and it performs flawlessly on my RV. Most of my camping is at non-electric sites, so charge it with 2 100w panels and a PowMr 1220. Thanks for ripping one of these open and confirming what they advertise.
Thanks for sharing your real-world experience! Glad to hear our battery is working great for your RV. We appreciate your trust in our product!
I just started with solar, about 2 years ago.
1850 watts of panels. 100|50 victron + 2x 100ah lithium.
I learned about your forum shortly after...It's quite helpful.
I wish I had half the knowledge you have regarding solar.
Thank you Will! It has been awesome to watch you through the years. Please never stop.
Great to see your review! Last month I bought 8 of these off eBay and only paid $125/ea. Glad I took the gamble!
Finally a decent low cost LiFePO4 which is also available in Australia. Thanks Will.
Thanks Beijing 😂
I bought two of these over the last two months, and I'm glad I did so before you made this video.
I recently purchased the Miady 12v 100ah battery off of Amazon because it was so cheap I couldn’t resist. I would love to see you do a break down of that unit if you haven’t already done one. Thanks for your honest reviews of these things. It is possibly the only way we can keep these overseas companies honest. Keep it up!
5:09 "They need some better advertising."
I think they just got it! :-)
Thanks for another great video!
188 now! You jacked up the price!
WattCycle sent one to me for testing last year and it's still working 100% daily without issues. Hard to believe the quality VS price.
That's awesome to hear! We're so glad the Watt Cycle battery has been performing reliably for you for a whole year after testing. We aim to deliver great quality at a price that makes sense, so your feedback is really valuable to us. Thanks for sticking with us!
@@wattcyclepower
Guess what! My favourite brand of batteries has finally been discovered by everyone! I've had this 100Ah lithium iron phosphate battery for 6 months now and it works great! Especially their after-sales service is exceptionally good! They were really helpful and dealt with the small problems I encountered!
Wow! Thanks for your continued support! We're honored to be your favorite battery brand and we'll keep working hard to live up to that!
I literally JUST ordered their mini 100ah w/ Bluetooth for $180... like 15min ago. Cold protection and Bluetooth... and smaller than a schedule 24?! I wouldn't have bought it had it not been for the good reviews this company has been getting.
I'm so glad I watched this. I bought 4 of these on TEMU for $150 ea., and you just confirmed what I was always wondering about. Just replaced 4 6v trojans, after 5 yrs, and these have worked better than those. I'was pretty happy with my purchase, but I think you just made me feel ecstatic about the purchase. Going on 4months, and they work flawlessly.Nice video!
Thanks man! Time to build my first battery + solar system.
I just ordered 4 of these and used the affiliate link
Hey thank you!!! And awesome! Love your videos. Let me know if you have any issues! Building solar systems can get addicting 😂 be careful!!
Will, great video, as always. However, I was wondering if you take any steps to conceal your identity when you order items for testing? It would be a simple matter for one of these companies to ship Will Prowse a premium product that they produce just for him. A great review by Will would make their sales boom, even if they raise the price by 50% over night.
Thank you , you are a great builder / tester . Your resisters on the wall looks cool man ! ;-)
Thanks Will. Just snagged 2. 2 100 Ah, over/under protection for a little over $300. That's insane! I doubt they'll last long before they're sold out.
Your the best!
I just did the same, what a deal
Someone said there 132 on temu.I’ve never shopped there.
I love your budget battery tear downs! Please do teardowns of a cheap batteries with Bluetooth. The Mehrpow battery is only $5 more than the WattCycle.
I just installed a Siekon 100Ah you checked out and installed it today. plugged it in, 13.2 volts and ran what little DC load I had, one exhaust fan and 3 LED Camper light fixtures, I know, it's not much but it's all that came with the camper. Planning on putting a Max Air fan and my BougeRV 41L cooler in there soon after I get some DC adapters wired in. I think I paid about the same price for that one you paid for this one. I coupled my battery with a 200W Bouge RV Bi-facial solar panel that was around $200 and my Renogy 40A MPPT I already had from previous Solar installation.
Yeah, you can do a lot with one of these, especially if you have a 100 to 160 watt solar panel on the roof. I run a compressor cooler fridge, diesel heater, lights, and fans. And I have power left over to charge up my laptop during the day. I paid like $800 for my Battleborn. I just bought one of these for extra storage capacity in the event of a few days of clouds/rain.
They also have a 12V 300Ah currently for going for 460. That's competitive with the diy 280ah hour batteries I built a year ago for my rv.
They raised the price to 559 for the 300ah
They sent me one of these for free I've been waiting for someone reputable to make a video to see if it's a scam. Haven't watched the whole video yet. Watching it now before I promote to my viewers. If it's a scam then it's a no-go I'll send it back.
Edit: mine is the Bluetooth "smart" one
Awesome video, thank you so much, Will! I was just browsing Amazon for lithium battery brands and saw that LiTime launched an all-in-one model with low-temp heating and Bluetooth-and it’s priced pretty well too! I’d love to see a comparison video on it if you’re up for it.
Bought 4 of these for $125 each for our fifth wheel running in parallel. Working great so far!
That overcurrent testing station belongs in the next installment of Saw.
Budget 12v batteries are imo the best way to go for me. Cheap to replace and you can build pretty good size banks with them. I prefer to replace a $200 battery vs a $1500 server pack anyday but thats just me.
Bought 2 of these and just installed them as a replacement for my house batteries. They are fully charged and we shall see how they do. I installed lithium 36 volt batteries in my golf last year and really like them.
I also have a whole array of Ecoflow gear, 2 Delta Pro's with 2 batteries each, that will run my motorhome and 3 Delta 2's we use to run equipment used during production on MMTV and a Delta mini. Love Ecoflow gear...obviously.
Thank you Will for what you do, I try to stay up on your equipment reviews, always interesting and fact based!
I just order one from Amazon as soon as you said there going up in price. 😂I I hope it does well for all around use.
Wattcycle is great. And they are a great company to work with
Because.... ?
@zenobikraweznick Because you can roll then down the hill, and they still work. Because the company is very responsive And will answer any question that you may have.
Thank you very much for your support and recommendation! We are glad that you are satisfied with Wattcycle, and we will continue to work hard to provide quality products and services.
I was considering that battery. I appreciate your review before the tariffs hit, especially so I’ll move forward and I thank you if I have any trouble with it, I’ll post it.
Thanks Will for an honest opinion. I’ve been considering getting these batteries. They also have a 12volt 300 ah for $480.00
Price bumped up to 559. I missed out on these at 480 but I ordered 2 for 500 each yesterday. Looking forward to getting these!
Has anybody opened one of the 300Ah mini?
Also, they show charging parameter 14.6, but don't give any additional parameters for float charge?
If you read the Amazon reviews, many of the 4 and 5 star reviews say their first battery failed but they’re happy since the company shipped them a new battery.
I love a low price, but not at the expense of durability, no matter how friendly the customer support!
This makes me wonder if the "failure" of the battery was due to inexperienced install or use. For example, did they try to use it while too cold or too hot and not let the battery "reset", or maybe they over-discharged it and don't know how to charge it while at too low of a Voltage for the BMS to activate it?
These are just a couple of reasons that LiFePO4 batteries could stop working. There could be others an amateur like myself may not know.
@@Tumbleweed5150except many of those reviews describe going through a diagnostic procedure with the company tech support… only then did they replace the batteries. Seems like the company would ask the obvious like when PC support folks ask “did you reboot the PC?”
@@M22Research I stand corrected. I hadn't read the actual reviews.
Correspondence with a company was very very good. In fact after they watched my teardown video and me taping it back together so I can still use it. They even sent me another battery to replace the one that I destroyed. And now they’re sending me a 300 amp hours they do make larger batteries.
Bought 40 of them, they work ABSOLUTLY fine !!!
Wow! I have 20.
Thank you, I grabbed 4 of them last night for our golf cart conversion. I'll be into the conversion for under 1k now. Appreciate the information 👊
Thanks Will. I Like the Quality for the Price !!
I've been using them for several months now and no issues with them.
Just purchased 2 Newtipower 300 amp hour batteries...I got them on sale for $450 each and they threw in 2 free lithium chargers that sell for $25 each...Had these batteries for 4 months and they work flawlessly.
There is a "Pro" version for the same cost that says group 31 on it. I wonder what the deal is?
Wow thanks Young Man! I'm a senior on a budget and appreciate saving a buck whenever I can. God bless!
Same
You can get 100ah 12v batteries for around 140 on sale if you're diligent. But if you're too busy to watch for sales a stable 155 isn't bad
Just purchased 12 of the 12v 100 amp hour batteries, excited to have some solid solar electrical!
I came across this video feed,I am already a subscriber, the price on the batt is something else. Right on Will and Thanks for putting it out there
The price is going up after your video 179-209 range. Saw one at 159 for first time. Future storage 3k system at least for a Ford E-transit high ceiling and extend. 😊
I enjoy your videos and enthusiasm. You have the heart of a teacher. Thank you for your channel. I'm learning so much. I direct anyone I meet that expresses an interest in PV / solar energy to your channel.
"It will be fine." famous last words! LOL!
I’m always surprised when I go back and check LifePo4 pricing. Saw redodos drop their price and then a Prime sale coming so I waited for it and got 4 12v100 ah base group 24’s for $149.67 USD each with free shipping. I am pleased to have a forced air furnace backup power system for that price. Two summers ago I was pleased to have a 12v 300 amp LiFePo4 battery bank in my camper for $1,500, SOK, and in 2016 I was blown away with my 200amp Battleborn setup without a lithium specific charger and without solar in my camper at $1,500. Got them before they jumped to $900 ea.
Will, Will. Will! Please always wear Safety glasses. You have an excellent, Beautiful setup.
But the Batteries are unknown till after you are done.
Please protect that of which you only have 2 of.
Impossible to know the quality of these cheap batteries without your videos! Thanks!
I have 16 of these batteries that have been up and running for over 6 months now wired series parallel for 24volts. I've had no issues so far. I started out with a few batteries and liked them so I bought more. I actually bought 4 more batteries after I got that system set up for other projects. The price was great!
BTY - I've been off-grid for 42 years. I've gone through lots of batteries over the years. Your videos are great!
I have 6 of these and have had no problems with them at all. Very well made blow my mind and all test above 100 ah when I got them been using for around 6 months now with no issue
Just love when the sawdust flies to reveal the guts of the battery!
Just ordered 3 of group 31 verson of the wattcycle lifepro 4 batteries. thanks for the overview and testing. Even cheaper than your quoted price. 3 of them billed at $667.00 plus tax. Delivery estimated November 29, 2024.
Ken
I just picked up 2 Eco-Worthy 12.8v/100Ah batteries on sale on Amazon for $175 each shipped. I did a capacity test of one of them on my RUclips channel and got 1330 watt hours out of it. Definitely an awesome deal.
Just in case, in Europe they are sold as DC House, but that's apparently the same company. Got 4x48v50ah from them. No exposed BMS, but fits small 9KVA system pretty well.
Bought 2 300 ah minis 3 weeks ago. I’ve had them almost 2 weeks. They’re working great, so far. Very pleased.
I just ordered 2 as well. Looking forward to them arriving. Do you run them in parallel?
@@79gbellthey just raised the price from 469 to 559 . Also they raised the price on the 100ah batteries. But good news flow just release there 100ah battery for cheaper with a 300amp 30 second surge and better constructed
I own a no name 120Ah Lifepo4 battery purchased on eBay a year ago that replaced 2x 100Ah AGM batteries. It's connected to a 50A DCDC Booster, according to the manual it can only handle 45A but so far it's working just fine. The battery performs well, it gives me 3 1/2 days in my RV just
like the AGM did running a compressor cooling box, lighting and phone charging. I doubt it has the 120Ah, more like 100 but for the money I'm super happy.
OH SNAP 🎉🎉🎉🎉 I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THIS BATTERY ON AMAZON....
THIS IS LIKE A GIFT..😊😊😊😊😊
Grabbed 2 of these right before the price hike. Both batteries reading 13.2v! so far so good!
I got one before they went up to $209! Thanks so much, very glad I saw your video
I got the mini from them. They were the only makers not using pouch cells
I've bought two in the last six months for my small emergency system. Three 100W solar panels, 30A charge controller and 2000W psw inverter. I may get a third at the new price because both mine were $190/$200 when I got them. I've had no issues so far and seeing the build quality makes me happy about my purchase.
been a while since ive watched your videos , man i missed them ! great job always detailed and uplifting thank you
That's amazing, Will. Best looking budget battery so far. You are right, tariffs are coming. Wish I needed batteries NOW but I don't.
Nice to see that you reviewed this battery when new. However, Mr. Off Grid from the off-grid mountain homestead has a different opinion on these batteries. He reviews them after he has put them threw several charge cycles. He did a review and it was not good. Apparently, that bms does not keep the individual cells balance. I think he measured them and would have one cell that would top out at 3.65V and the other cells were completely different voltages with the lowest being like 3.4V. At the end, he said that he was going to upgrade the bms to a JK. Something to keep in mind....
@@brendajanes4139 did he reach out to them over his issues? Might have been a dud rather than representative of the entire product 🤷♀️
Good to know! Will check that out
Thank you for letting us know, I just watched that video, then went on amazon to read 1 star reviews and decided not to buy these $155 batteries. If its too good to be true, it probably is
Someone said there 132 on temu now lol
In the review/tear down he did 4 months ago, he was absolutely praising the heck out it. The battery in the review you're referring to is a 100ah trolling battery. The one in the 4 month old review was a 100ah group 24. So maybe he got a "bum" battery. I was going to sat he should warranty if with WattCycle, but I don't think they'll ball, now that Mr. Off Grid has dissected it.
I'm also curious about the BMS, the one in the older review was labeled "Schenzhen Washi Energy Co." and the BMS in the trolling battery had no labeling. Is Wattcycle now using a different BMS supplier?
Hi Will, any chance you can do some reviews on those cheap chinese inverters? Like powmr, or those unpopular brands?
$155 on Amazon.
Great video!
Thank you!
Currently Unavailable.
$209 in Commiefornia
Good to know they are using the cells on their side, so you'll probably want to use the battery on its side too (it's needed for LiFePo4 cells right?).
Thank you Will. Just purchased 8 of them. Now I need to find good deals on an inverter and panels.
I just purchased 4 from their website $186 each with taxes delivered. The 4 of them were less the 1 (of the 2) I bought in 2018 for my RV.
Upgrade the RV, use the 2 old ones to run solar lights at the entrance of my property where there is no power. Christmas early.
@@danieldorchester5221 nice. I just purchased a 6000XP to go along with mine. Still looking for the best deals on bifacial panels. Sig Solar is out of the most recent ones Will recommends...
I would wait to see if there are any decent black Friday sales
@@justinw1765 maby but I think tariffs might start increasing prices. The past few months are the lowest I have seen. I don’t feel there is any more downside ? If I’m wrong there won’t be much 5% at the most?
@@justinw1765 Thank you for that suggestion!
Great video, per usual, Will.
I have this battery under my desk, powering my mini PC. Mine was from Temu. That looks like a TDT BMS. I had it on a Renogy Rover 40A for a couple weeks. I beat the tariffs by buying 56 314Ah and 16 280Ah Hithium cells. That'll give me far more storage than I expect to need but I couldn't resist at $40 and $42 per cell before shipping, tax, and transaction fees. I'd buy the battery in this video based on my experience with the one I use and your review. It's supposed to be safe to parallel up to 4 of them.
It would be great, if you could review replacements for normal starter batteries, which are rated high for cold cranking & have thermal protection for winter time.
Man, I was wondering if Will was going to do a review of these when they started popping up all over the place.
I built my own battery thanks to your videos. I still believe you can build a better battery cheaper. Case in point. I have 8 280ah 3.65v cells in series with a BMS and spent less than a grand all in a space smaller than three of those batteries.
Hey. You think you can help me put together a parts list for my sprinter van build as I don’t got clue on solar I would like to have maybe a 5kw system put inside of it Thnks
I did the same thing… 580ah of battery in a very small space (under the entry steps in our Sprinter motorhome).
Ordered from Amazon, free delivery on 30th. Will be backup to River Pro. Much 😊
Check out how small the 300AH MINI model is! You gotta do a vid and teardown on one of those
This is something I am looking for to use my CPAP on the road. Are there enclosures for this that also have outlets and such, because paying a thousand dollars or so for something from EcoFlow or the like is just insane for me. What type of solar panels would be needed to recharge this thing while on the road and/or plugged-in? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE NEED ANSWERS TO!!!!
I just upped that affiliate marketing income brother😎 good stuff. Thanks
Great video, I always love the teardown video. TEMU has the Group 31 Pro version for $133.32 right now. I found out that the same seller will sell the same product on Amazon at a higher price, about 25% more than TEMU, I bought a push cart from TEMU and it was dropped shipped from Amazon.
BTW, the inside looks and is built the same as HUMSIENK battery.
I have had one of these in my 2018 nissan leaf for about 4 months as the sole 12v battery. No issues other than it was a tight squeeze getting it to fit and the terminals were reversed from what was ideal for my vehicle but i made it work.
Put one in my camper last month. Seems legit good.
Wattcycle’s corporate site is pretty good. They list many different batteries up to 36 volts. Interestingly, they also have a category “like new batteries” which apparently use recycled cells which Wattcycle describes as “A+ cells.” Thumbs up for honesty. It looks like the prices jumped once the word of mouth got out.
Would love to see you review the Wattcycle mini. Thanks for this review too!
Eco-Worthy now selling on Amazon 12V 100AH battery with low temp cutoff, power monitor on board display and Bluetooth App battery monitor retailing around $200 but as low as $189. Not sure if using shunt or trying to measure capacity with voltage which I thought was next to impossible with Lithium. Best deal I have seen and really cheap if all the features work. Not sure about quality or construction but website says Grade A cells. Love to see this one opened up.
Will, have you heard of GrenerPower brand LiFePO4 batteries?
I bought one of these batteries. It's failed after only 4 uses.... I'm in contact with them to get out replaced.
Good to know!
Hey. Why haven’t you done the new EcoFlow 100ah lipo. 199 bucks on amazon. Have been Battleborn fan for years. Bought 4 of these. They are amazing. Thanks
Can you do humsienik ? Or dc house? Dc house says eco worthy
You're wearing an Asbestos Dust respirator, You need to get one with Black filters, that indicates they are Activated Carbon and will filter out any harmful vapors, though the purple ones do work somewhat for welding smoke (FUME).
That filter is a combination it has activated carbon looks like a 60923 we use them at work
I'm using vapor cartridges. Isn't that for vapors?
@@WillProwse Please always do a smell test if you are using activated carbon filters. It checks both for filter efficiency and mask fit.
This conversation is going no where fast 😅
What do you need to filter fumes for cuttinh plastics? Ok if you do it longterm the fumes could cause something, but...
I just bought 4 12v 100ah size24. They are on back order and have increased their prices. I managed to get a discount of 10 percent through chatting in their message system. Ended up paying 167 each delivered with tax. Thanks will!
I have received my batts on the 15th. It took app. 14 days to receive them from back order, very good I think. I tested upon arrival and they are all at 13.21, very good I think. So far so good! I havent connected them just yet, soon though. I was wondering if anyone that reads this has a recommendation for a 3 to 5k watt inverter/charger w/bluetooth or remote display, it would be greatly appreciated? I am eyeballing a Litime 12v or 24v 3k inverter/charger for 250 and 450, anyone have experiene with these two chargers and are pleased with them?
Ever heard off the Paoweric 12v 300ah lifepo4 Battery.?
Could you parallel 4 of these together and replace a 1300 dollar 48v server rack battery for almost half the price?