I can't get over the anxiety of them either. I've read books, watched videos about how to calm yourself with these......Still worthless. I can't even go anywhere, anymore. I more or less glued to my recliner all day and try not to have to go out as much as possible. These are bullshit and ruin your life, depending on the person, I guess. Some don't let it bother them. I can't do that. Yes I've had a lot of bad thoughts with these as well. It's almost not worth it anymore, because I'm always told "I can't do anything for you." 2nd opinion too.
I’m 60 yrs. old and have been living with PVCs and PACs since my 20s. The frequency comes and goes throughout the year. At times it’s very infrequent or not noticeable at all and there are days when it’s very frequent. I don’t usually have them overnight and when I wake up in the morning but it’ll kick up after having breakfast. I do believe it has something to do with your digestive system. Over the years, I’ve learned to do several things to reduce the frequency when it’s at it’s peak such as the valsalva maneuver, dipping my face in ice water, drinking plain hot water or hydrating with electrolytes. These help at times but not all the time. I’m on 50mg of Metoprolol due to several bouts of A-Fib. I’ve avoided ablation all these years and got used to living with it. I may elect to get an ablation when I’m older. Hope it gets better for you.
Appreciate the comment! Its comforting to hear other peoples stories and background with PVCs/PACs. I agree that digestive system could be something that kicks them off, since being ont he mediterrean diet (1 month) i have felt a lot better, still getting PVCs but less frequent (I plan on doing another update video in the next week or so). I will be adding your suggestions to my list of things to try, the ice water and plain hot water sounds interesting and will try them soon. Hope you have a blessed day and again, much appreciate your comment!
@@gwheel3502 Looking forward to your next posting! Remember that there are a lot of us out in the world experiencing the same heart irregularities like you!
@@moesatoshi4696 My PVCs/POCs does not trigger me an AFib in my experience. It could for others, The AFib, very seldom, comes on by itself. I think the longest duration of AFib I had was about a month. The next would be two weeks and the rest were short.
Omg so true stop taking your pulse. That is all I did when I first found out I had this sat on the couch for at least 5 hours with my fingers to my neck counting my pulse etc kept me up all night great advice not to do that
Yep! That and people with smart watches constantly looking at the “EKG” app and totally freaking out. Those things can be great but also have a ton of false positives (example saying something is Afib when it isn’t)
Hi I'm 62 year old nurse with cardiac nursing experience and can relate to this. Been having PVC's since my 30's but rarely. It's gotten more frequent over the years. I believe there is a gastrocardiac connection. I'm considering histamine sensitivity and digestive issues since "all disease begins in the gut" rather than focusing jon my heart itself. I can't figure out a pattern yet, but can tell you the day I had an astronomical amount of PVC's - it was January 25, 2021 and I had just been exposed to Covid 2 days before and started having PVC's that day after I ate a Wendy's chicken salad (never ate another one!) That was on Monday. I went to ER, got IV fluids which helped a little. I started getting sick the next day and Dx'd Wednesday, started on the Covid cocktail Thursday, and Friday morning the PVC's ceased. I didn't have another one until April that year, and it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Then it came back in October and lasted 4 months. Now it's October again and I just finished wearing my 2nd Zio patch. I'm wondering if allergies have something to do with it. Anxiety sure doesn't help.
Thank you so much for the comment and sharing your story I am with you, I have found in all my reading, YouTubing, chatting and forum talk that there are 4 common causes of PVCs/PACs for people with structurally normal hearts - Gastro issues, anxiety, COVID infection and COVID vaccine, the first two being the primary for people like me with frequent ectopics.
Mine started after covid also. Kardi says pacs but a 3 week heart monitor said afib. I'm convinced that since I was working out at the time, the monitor was bouncing around a lot and gave a false reading. Anyway, I think vitamin D might be the key for me. I seem to feel much better when I take it and just have a high heart rate but not irregular. Trying to figure out how much to take to help with that. Also take magnesium taurate.
Just curious, in your experience as a cardiac nurse did you see PVCs in other patients that you or the doctor were treating? Wondering how common they are among the general population who don't feel them. My boss, for example, walks around in bigeminy and doesn't feel any of his pvcs! I can't imagine! I feel every single one of mine.
@@elana81RDH years ago when I first graduated I began working the night shift at the hospital on telemetry. As far as the gen pop, I can't answer that, but I do know that its generally regarded that everyone has them from time to time. I recall seeing many of my patients on telemetry have multiple PVC's, sometimes in a quad, tri, or bigeminal pattern and some would say they felt them, others not. These patients were then (1990's) the age I am now, so I now know what they were going through. I'm there. I recall one man who kept having runs of sustained VT and he never felt it!!! I'd rush in with the crash cart and he would be sitting there calmly reading a book wondering what was the big deal! I attended a code where a different man was in sustained VT covered in sweat and panting like a racehorse (technical terms are diaphoretic and tachypneic). I got there with the crash cart and put on the gel pads and the shock paddles to get "a quick look" which lets us know if the patient has a shockable rhythm or not. He woke up and yelled "W T H IS GOING ON HERE?!??! He was conscious!!! None of us nurses nor the CT fellow on call that night had ever seen that before. We'd always been taught that consciousness during VT was not possible. Clearly it is and he had multiple signs and symptoms of it as well. All that to say some people like your boss may well not be able to tell they have an arrhythmia, but like you, I feel my PVC's! I also have what I think are PAC's and those are less noticeable and more like a flutter.
Nice vid. Newly dx with PVcs, did a monitor for a week and had 230 in total. I only felt 4 of them. I was told the heart beats 100000 times a day, so this amount over 7 days is pretty miniscule. I don't take beta blockers or anything, I just think when my electrolytes are affected they start up. They are a burden for sure, best of luck and thanks for the update.
I've had PVC's on and off for years but in the last year they became daily and more frequent than ever b4 (prior to that i had none for maybe 2-3 years). I get them consistently in the morning now upon waking up. I had a 2 week holter and they saw an afib too now... i'm considering an ablation. I went on calcium channel blockers which seemed to work for a month or two but i basically think they don't help. just wanted to share. it's affecting my life including my work.
Thx for sharing, Justin! I’ve heard the calcium blockers will work for a few weeks but then their effectiveness wears off. How many instances if a fib were seen? Anything triggering them? Any new stress or anxiety, change in health patterns? Ablation route is where I’m sure I’ll end up, still just very nervous about it even though they say a lot of dental procedures are more risky than an ablation these days.
@@gwheel3502 I have not seen the full report yet but the afib was flagged and doctor was notified the next day even before the 2 weeks were up, then they called me and prescribed a blood thinner just to ensure against stroke, just as a precaution. So as far aside know, just the one but we'll see. I have tried to discern triggers but I think it just has a mind of its own. Ive stopped alcohol again but was not drinking excessively (to a degree...) Sometimes I even think it's God LOL.
In taking metroprolol - 20 mg a day 10 morning 10 evening - i had lots of pvcs more than 9000+ In 24hrs - the metroprolol is good in reducing it - i have now like 2 ectopic or 4 a day only, sometimes not. ive been on metrop for 9 months last week i did echo and stress test my heart is in excellent condition ans nothing bad - try metroprolol at low dose 20 a day trust me with time it will work- at first it was like wth nothing is woekong but with time that 20 mg only started to work. so dont worry about beta blockers it will not cause harm. I do exercise also and reduce fatty meals and i also take magnesium b6 twice a day. And that’s it.
I suffered from panic attacks for years since 2011 and i think stress and lack of sleep cause i used to stay awake till morning most of my days and under heavy stress and i think a lot all these were factors to cause PVCS. So the main issue for me was stress
Appreciate the comment and your experience! I am right around 9-12 thousand a day I believe (haven’t had follow up doc appt yet). I have messaged my doc about reducing my Metoprolol dosage, 100mg helps I guess but not super beneficial for me as of right now. Exercise and diet have been very helpful thus far in my opinion. I agree panic attacks, stress and lack of sleep I believe can cause or exasperate PVCs. Hope to do another update video soon. Thanks again!
@@moesatoshi4696 same here, i was a stressful person, i been having them since 2011 as well , they come and go. I feel like im under alot of stress or even some adrenalin they seem to be very frequent. I hate these things so much. i take atenolol . seems to help
I have to have surgery for my gallbladder but I also have pvc's. I'm scared to be under anesthesia with pvc's i don't know if they will be worse. I'm a little scared but I eventually need this surgery sooner than later
Definitely worth mentioning to your doctors, depending on your PVC situation they may improve, if anxiety induced and with your brain turned off they may not happen at all. All the best to you!
Since I'm at the beginning of my journey can I ask if any foods seem to have triggered it worse than others I understand no caffeine etc just with your own experience and wondering if you have any recommendations thanks
Different for everyone I’ve found, for me foods don’t really trigger anything, excess caffeine and sugar don’t help me that’s for sure, they make them worse. I switched to a Mediterranean diet and it’s definitely healthier overall but I didn’t get any improvement from it. I’ve read MSG triggers them for some, spicy food, dairy etc….unfortunately a trial and error thing for everyone.
Hey there, me again. I may actually decide to fill the metropolol prescription. My PVCs sometimes lead to SVTs, and I had a real bad svt attack yesterday afternoon. Had to reset my heart with adenosine. The only reason I’ve been on the fence is because I’ve heard and read that it heavily limits your ability to exercise, but apparently you seem to be fine while on them. Are you still on the metropolol? And are you able to run and lift? How much has it hampered your ability to work out/exercise?
I would go with what your Cardiologist recommends, especially if they lead to SVT, I think you are making the right choice with at least trying metoprolol. I am not still on metoprolol as I found it didn’t help me, came off with doctors guidance. I read the same thing, and it just effects people differently. I was able to exercise on them (jogging/hiking/walking) without a problem, just had a lower heart rate and was more tired typically during the day. All the best to you and keep us posted!
I have tried magnesium, did 400mg a day for a few weeks and didn’t seem to help. I know it does help a lot of people but didn’t seem to make any positive changes for me. Thanks for asking!
I can't get over the anxiety of them either. I've read books, watched videos about how to calm yourself with these......Still worthless. I can't even go anywhere, anymore. I more or less glued to my recliner all day and try not to have to go out as much as possible. These are bullshit and ruin your life, depending on the person, I guess. Some don't let it bother them. I can't do that. Yes I've had a lot of bad thoughts with these as well. It's almost not worth it anymore, because I'm always told "I can't do anything for you." 2nd opinion too.
So sorry to hear that. I have also been struggling with pvcs for 14 years, they've stopped me doing so much.
My burden is less than 1% per day. They can't do an ablation for me. It won't work.
I’m 60 yrs. old and have been living with PVCs and PACs since my 20s. The frequency comes and goes throughout the year. At times it’s very infrequent or not noticeable at all and there are days when it’s very frequent. I don’t usually have them overnight and when I wake up in the morning but it’ll kick up after having breakfast. I do believe it has something to do with your digestive system. Over the years, I’ve learned to do several things to reduce the frequency when it’s at it’s peak such as the valsalva maneuver, dipping my face in ice water, drinking plain hot water or hydrating with electrolytes. These help at times but not all the time. I’m on 50mg of Metoprolol due to several bouts of A-Fib. I’ve avoided ablation all these years and got used to living with it. I may elect to get an ablation when I’m older. Hope it gets better for you.
Appreciate the comment! Its comforting to hear other peoples stories and background with PVCs/PACs. I agree that digestive system could be something that kicks them off, since being ont he mediterrean diet (1 month) i have felt a lot better, still getting PVCs but less frequent (I plan on doing another update video in the next week or so). I will be adding your suggestions to my list of things to try, the ice water and plain hot water sounds interesting and will try them soon. Hope you have a blessed day and again, much appreciate your comment!
@@gwheel3502 Looking forward to your next posting! Remember that there are a lot of us out in the world experiencing the same heart irregularities like you!
Hi sir, what about your afib? What caused it? Does PVCS cause afib in the long term?
@@moesatoshi4696 My PVCs/POCs does not trigger me an AFib in my experience. It could for others, The AFib, very seldom, comes on by itself. I think the longest duration of AFib I had was about a month. The next would be two weeks and the rest were short.
@@moesatoshi4696 it's usually PAC's that are or can be a precursor to AFIB.
Omg so true stop taking your pulse. That is all I did when I first found out I had this sat on the couch for at least 5 hours with my fingers to my neck counting my pulse etc kept me up all night great advice not to do that
Yep! That and people with smart watches constantly looking at the “EKG” app and totally freaking out. Those things can be great but also have a ton of false positives (example saying something is Afib when it isn’t)
Haha, dude I'm having them now, last few days. Checking my pulse nonstop.
Good luck and hope you get better. Take care and looking forward to seeing you again soon
Hi I'm 62 year old nurse with cardiac nursing experience and can relate to this. Been having PVC's since my 30's but rarely. It's gotten more frequent over the years. I believe there is a gastrocardiac connection. I'm considering histamine sensitivity and digestive issues since "all disease begins in the gut" rather than focusing jon my heart itself. I can't figure out a pattern yet, but can tell you the day I had an astronomical amount of PVC's - it was January 25, 2021 and I had just been exposed to Covid 2 days before and started having PVC's that day after I ate a Wendy's chicken salad (never ate another one!) That was on Monday. I went to ER, got IV fluids which helped a little. I started getting sick the next day and Dx'd Wednesday, started on the Covid cocktail Thursday, and Friday morning the PVC's ceased. I didn't have another one until April that year, and it wasn't anywhere near as bad. Then it came back in October and lasted 4 months. Now it's October again and I just finished wearing my 2nd Zio patch. I'm wondering if allergies have something to do with it. Anxiety sure doesn't help.
Thank you so much for the comment and sharing your story
I am with you, I have found in all my reading, YouTubing, chatting and forum talk that there are 4 common causes of PVCs/PACs for people with structurally normal hearts - Gastro issues, anxiety, COVID infection and COVID vaccine, the first two being the primary for people like me with frequent ectopics.
Mine started after covid also. Kardi says pacs but a 3 week heart monitor said afib. I'm convinced that since I was working out at the time, the monitor was bouncing around a lot and gave a false reading. Anyway, I think vitamin D might be the key for me. I seem to feel much better when I take it and just have a high heart rate but not irregular. Trying to figure out how much to take to help with that. Also take magnesium taurate.
Just curious, in your experience as a cardiac nurse did you see PVCs in other patients that you or the doctor were treating? Wondering how common they are among the general population who don't feel them. My boss, for example, walks around in bigeminy and doesn't feel any of his pvcs! I can't imagine! I feel every single one of mine.
Try magnesium it really helps mine
@@elana81RDH years ago when I first graduated I began working the night shift at the hospital on telemetry. As far as the gen pop, I can't answer that, but I do know that its generally regarded that everyone has them from time to time. I recall seeing many of my patients on telemetry have multiple PVC's, sometimes in a quad, tri, or bigeminal pattern and some would say they felt them, others not. These patients were then (1990's) the age I am now, so I now know what they were going through. I'm there. I recall one man who kept having runs of sustained VT and he never felt it!!! I'd rush in with the crash cart and he would be sitting there calmly reading a book wondering what was the big deal! I attended a code where a different man was in sustained VT covered in sweat and panting like a racehorse (technical terms are diaphoretic and tachypneic). I got there with the crash cart and put on the gel pads and the shock paddles to get "a quick look" which lets us know if the patient has a shockable rhythm or not. He woke up and yelled "W T H IS GOING ON HERE?!??! He was conscious!!! None of us nurses nor the CT fellow on call that night had ever seen that before. We'd always been taught that consciousness during VT was not possible. Clearly it is and he had multiple signs and symptoms of it as well. All that to say some people like your boss may well not be able to tell they have an arrhythmia, but like you, I feel my PVC's! I also have what I think are PAC's and those are less noticeable and more like a flutter.
Nice vid. Newly dx with PVcs, did a monitor for a week and had 230 in total. I only felt 4 of them. I was told the heart beats 100000 times a day, so this amount over 7 days is pretty miniscule. I don't take beta blockers or anything, I just think when my electrolytes are affected they start up. They are a burden for sure, best of luck and thanks for the update.
Thanks for the comment, yes that’s good news and a very low burden, still can be very scary though no doubt. All The best to you
Got them too , off an on. Theyve been there since 15yrs old
I've had PVC's on and off for years but in the last year they became daily and more frequent than ever b4 (prior to that i had none for maybe 2-3 years). I get them consistently in the morning now upon waking up. I had a 2 week holter and they saw an afib too now... i'm considering an ablation. I went on calcium channel blockers which seemed to work for a month or two but i basically think they don't help. just wanted to share. it's affecting my life including my work.
Thx for sharing, Justin! I’ve heard the calcium blockers will work for a few weeks but then their effectiveness wears off.
How many instances if a fib were seen?
Anything triggering them? Any new stress or anxiety, change in health patterns?
Ablation route is where I’m sure I’ll end up, still just very nervous about it even though they say a lot of dental procedures are more risky than an ablation these days.
@@gwheel3502 I have not seen the full report yet but the afib was flagged and doctor was notified the next day even before the 2 weeks were up, then they called me and prescribed a blood thinner just to ensure against stroke, just as a precaution. So as far aside know, just the one but we'll see. I have tried to discern triggers but I think it just has a mind of its own. Ive stopped alcohol again but was not drinking excessively (to a degree...) Sometimes I even think it's God LOL.
In taking metroprolol - 20 mg a day 10 morning 10 evening - i had lots of pvcs more than 9000+ In 24hrs - the metroprolol is good in reducing it - i have now like 2 ectopic or 4 a day only, sometimes not.
ive been on metrop for 9 months last week i did echo and stress test my heart is in excellent condition ans nothing bad - try metroprolol at low dose 20 a day trust me with time it will work- at first it was like wth nothing is woekong but with time that 20 mg only started to work.
so dont worry about beta blockers it will not cause harm. I do exercise also and reduce fatty meals and i also take magnesium b6 twice a day. And that’s it.
I suffered from panic attacks for years since 2011 and i think stress and lack of sleep cause i used to stay awake till morning most of my days and under heavy stress and i think a lot all these were factors to cause PVCS. So the main issue for me was stress
Appreciate the comment and your experience! I am right around 9-12 thousand a day I believe (haven’t had follow up doc appt yet). I have messaged my doc about reducing my Metoprolol dosage, 100mg helps I guess but not super beneficial for me as of right now. Exercise and diet have been very helpful thus far in my opinion.
I agree panic attacks, stress and lack of sleep I believe can cause or exasperate PVCs. Hope to do another update video soon. Thanks again!
@@moesatoshi4696 same here, i was a stressful person, i been having them since 2011 as well , they come and go. I feel like im under alot of stress or even some adrenalin they seem to be very frequent. I hate these things so much. i take atenolol . seems to help
I have to have surgery for my gallbladder but I also have pvc's. I'm scared to be under anesthesia with pvc's i don't know if they will be worse. I'm a little scared but I eventually need this surgery sooner than later
Definitely worth mentioning to your doctors, depending on your PVC situation they may improve, if anxiety induced and with your brain turned off they may not happen at all. All the best to you!
Since I'm at the beginning of my journey can I ask if any foods seem to have triggered it worse than others I understand no caffeine etc just with your own experience and wondering if you have any recommendations thanks
Different for everyone I’ve found, for me foods don’t really trigger anything, excess caffeine and sugar don’t help me that’s for sure, they make them worse. I switched to a Mediterranean diet and it’s definitely healthier overall but I didn’t get any improvement from it. I’ve read MSG triggers them for some, spicy food, dairy etc….unfortunately a trial and error thing for everyone.
PVCS PACS i dont think theres a known cause not in my case any ways we r all different
Hey there, me again.
I may actually decide to fill the metropolol prescription. My PVCs sometimes lead to SVTs, and I had a real bad svt attack yesterday afternoon. Had to reset my heart with adenosine.
The only reason I’ve been on the fence is because I’ve heard and read that it heavily limits your ability to exercise, but apparently you seem to be fine while on them.
Are you still on the metropolol? And are you able to run and lift? How much has it hampered your ability to work out/exercise?
I would go with what your Cardiologist recommends, especially if they lead to SVT, I think you are making the right choice with at least trying metoprolol.
I am not still on metoprolol as I found it didn’t help me, came off with doctors guidance.
I read the same thing, and it just effects people differently. I was able to exercise on them (jogging/hiking/walking) without a problem, just had a lower heart rate and was more tired typically during the day.
All the best to you and keep us posted!
Good luck from another PVC victim.
hi there hv u tryed magnesuim suppliments?
I have tried magnesium, did 400mg a day for a few weeks and didn’t seem to help. I know it does help a lot of people but didn’t seem to make any positive changes for me. Thanks for asking!
what type magnesium you take sir?