Very nice interview. Interesting to get the background from Eben. Don't get the complaints about the audio quality, there's nothing wrong with it, I can follow it and am not even a native speaker/
I think there's a *little* bit of an underestimation of how much the 8 bit micro boom in the UK cut across socioeconomic bands. A lot of working class kids became programmers, often using Sinclair machines. Sure, the middle classes were still disproportionately represented, but it was an unusually meritocratic new path in Thatcher's Britain.
Unfortunately in our primary school of mostly working class kids, we had one BBC Micro and it would only come out of the cupboard on rainy days and used more like a reward or positive reinforcement for kids' behaviour so we weren't given much time on it. The school probably didn't have the funding or the skills to know how to get the most out of the BBC Micro. The only software for it was Granny's Garden and a paint/draw program. I don't think it cut across socioeconomic bands as much as was probably hoped.
Great interview, slowly catching up with the stuf on your channel, it's been great so far, even the stuff I thought would not have been personally interesting has been great to watch. More recent stuff please, I cannot find the time nor afford to come and see your centre, but I love the place regardless.
Having read the comments I appreciate I'm not the first to say this but you REALLY need to get some compression or automate the levels on this video's audio! If you don't know how to do that and you want a hand with it then - because I think the content deserves to be heard - get in touch. You might also have some sort of phasing going on between the lavalier mic and the camera's mic? Not sure, but it really shouldn't be that hard to make considerably better . . . it's a shame to leave it as it is.
He's bang on when he talks about Spectrum -> Atari ST vs BBC Micro to Amiga! Although in my case I was ZX Spectrum and never made to the Atari ST until the mid 90s!
@@jonnamechange6854 just buy a pi, sd card, the special HDMI cable and the needed AC adaptor. I also recommend getting a case. However if you're not planning on running a server using the Pi. Then you can look out for the Pi 400 which is a more desktop esk form factor of the Pi 4. You can also look at various complete kits the Raspberry Pi foundation sells.
Esto es perfecto hardware entendible, para variables de projecto abierto al inicio se buscaba integrar a la tecnología como un juego, el día de hoy es un mundo tecnológico a desarrollar, para desarrollo evolutivo de los seres humanos.🤓 Gracias por compartir.
The Raspi removes the economic factor and levels the playing field. It’s essentially the violin of the tech industry searching for the virtuosos across the entire socioeconomic spectrum. I know brilliant computer scientists and very poor students that use the raspi!
The audio is terrible silent for the most parts and then for several syllables loud. Please adjust that (hint: compressor) and reupload the video ... :-)
This guy likes to make eye contact about as much as eye do, I find it incredibly painful and hard to focus when I look people in the eyes while talking.
Why is he raising his voice like that. Also, it would seem like he is somewhat discrediting soft skills by his hailing of math and its implied meritocracy.
This conversation is very strange, the guy talks like he invented the new makers computer, where actually Arduino was there since 2006- when he built his AVR computer. He also say "this can only happen in UK or in silicon valley" , really? whats so special about his pcb? just a few chips that any good hardware engineer know how to set together. You have maybe 30 kinds of development boards most of them have been there very early , before the Pi. So its strange, he speaks like he invented the first personal computer, without a single word about Arduino and many many others that have been there before him and made a great job.
Yeah, the thing is Ron you have to look at the whole picture. What's been achieved is the package of releasing a board which generated a ton of interest and has created a sort of mini-industry in its own right; and there are a lot of projects around this computer now. Take your point there probably was the Arduino and I'm sure others, but the tech needs to generate interest to achieve its potential and we don't have kids and schools using Arduino.
No, he said Cambridge, not the UK, and he's referring to the density of multi-disciplinary talents and networking possibilities, both tech and business. The achievement is in putting the system together at a very low cost and still being commercially viable. People who aren't professional engineers appear not to understand this. The Pi doesn't claim to be the pre-eminent makers computer. It's going for a slightly different market from that of Arduino and is doing different things. You may be mistakenly misapprehending the Pi through an Arduino hobbyist's lens.
Show a bit of respect, its Raspberry Pi! I see your point but let him tell his story. And as for Cambridge its the history back to bbc micro and archimedes and sinclair spectrum.
He did, it was a full ARM not some cut down 8 bit RISC chip. Sounds like sour grapes, I built many circuits long before the RasPi, but, I'm not complaining about the product, just the kids mumbling :0þ Ron T how much was an OMAP Beagleboard, not $10, I'm sure, try $500 or $1,000 [ STILL $150 NOW ], again you only show your own ignorance because if you were prototyping products in the 00's [ like me ] you would have been happy if there was a PI. 'Arduino' is a toy in comparison to the first PI. I heard RUclips commentors were even more ignorant than FaceBook users... PS that profile picture is me, I hide from no-one =]8¬_D
This guy is extraordinarily difficult to understand, he whispers some words and talks very fast and slow which adds to the difficulty, not to mention the shitty audio work, too bad because I was interested what he has to say.
I was going to say try using the captions supplied, but they can't work out what he's saying either. He keeps talking into his chest at crucial moments of his explanations so you can't hear him. This is very common amongst industry pioneers.
and then he say "we wanted to get children's to be excited " about what? another development board which is much faster? like these kids would even be able to use 1% of its power? the whole story is strange to me. They made it for children where they used a power computer , they could have been use a 8 bit processor with 8Mhz.
You're thinking like an adult techie mate :) what the children are excited about the whole piece rather than the board itself. Don't look at the board, look at the whole thing. I know you're gonna say that Arduino or others deliver the same tech but they aren't supported, promoted or used in the say way.
Really? you really think a f**ing processor of 1GHz is the right tool to teach kids to code? other platforms such as Little Bits, and others are pretty much better for kids. They say Pi is for education because today you need to set some "important purpose" to get your startup noticed. Luckily they got a good press and made an history. Saying thats what brings kids to learn how to code is, sorry to say, kind of bullshit.
Ron T ... A lot of it, like anything in life, is luck and timing. The spec isn't really relevant, what's happened is that this has caught peoples attention and peaked their interest. The other stuff that's out there - arguably much better I'm sure - hasn't done that.
its cool because you can do whatever what you want with it, people of all ages can use it. I have seen highschoolers use that much computing power with programs before.
Oh yes! Quite so! Despite his talk of meritocracy in maths, he was able to identify a major issue affecting the world of technology since the mid-1980s. Which is part of the reason for the decrease in the number of young people getting into STEM, decades later. Though he’s an engineer, this is keen insight into the social system behind these developments. Also, that lack of diversity has been involved in a lot of groupthink. Much easier to stick to a given paradigm when everyone comes from the same socioeconomic background. We saw that in finance, close to a decade ago. It’s now biting the computer world. Of course, there’s been a lot of STEM enthusiasm outside the UK and US. It might take a while before we get a full understanding of how the world will change, but the South Asian presence in STEM programs (in North America, at least) is already a sign of something happening.
@@AlexandreEnkerli Diversity in STEM was never an employer issue , it's a fundamental problem of Education and what student's where encourage or discouraged from learning , plus Parents share a role in this as well. In America and your Google and you want to hire more African American's as top level engineer's , but they simply aren't for whatever reason going into that field, then what's Google to do, they deal with the end result of economic, school's , local government, cultural issues more than saying Google won't hire them.
What is a purpose of a $60 computer, without: - power supply - video port - case - x86 compatibility and with: - a flimsy microUSB power port - connectors on 3 sides? That's just a waste of radio components.
You can choose to buy a power supply or use one you already have. Saves being forced to buy a supply you don't need. The Pi has composite output and HDMI. Again no point forcing a case on people. Different projects need different cases. Much nicer to keep the price lower and let people sort out their own case. Not sure why you would want x86 compatibility ...
IkarusKommt A computer doesn't need a case to work, and neither does it need X86 compatibility. The pi isn't $60 is it? It has a video port and you can get a power supply for it.
1 it's silent 2 it's arm, which kicks x86 to the curve in terms of power efficiency. 3 they're Linux capable machines... (Meaning they shipped with a large software catalogue out of the box on day 1)
Very nice interview. Interesting to get the background from Eben. Don't get the complaints about the audio quality, there's nothing wrong with it, I can follow it and am not even a native speaker/
Glad it all came together the way it did, and keep up the rapid product evolution.
I think there's a *little* bit of an underestimation of how much the 8 bit micro boom in the UK cut across socioeconomic bands. A lot of working class kids became programmers, often using Sinclair machines. Sure, the middle classes were still disproportionately represented, but it was an unusually meritocratic new path in Thatcher's Britain.
Unfortunately in our primary school of mostly working class kids, we had one BBC Micro and it would only come out of the cupboard on rainy days and used more like a reward or positive reinforcement for kids' behaviour so we weren't given much time on it. The school probably didn't have the funding or the skills to know how to get the most out of the BBC Micro. The only software for it was Granny's Garden and a paint/draw program. I don't think it cut across socioeconomic bands as much as was probably hoped.
The background with all the BBCs reminds me of our setup at school back in the late 80s :) I've always liked those BBC monitors.
Was two to a BBC. I never got a look in, was always stuck with an arse who hogged the machine.
I always hated those monitors. The CRT generated a lot of static, and the case was earthed metal, so... ouch, a lot.
Never had that experience. For me, the monitors are just about the nostalgia :)
@@DanEllis Yes, yes and thrice yes... ZAP!
CUB monitors
Shoutout Broadcom for believing in the project
Great interview, slowly catching up with the stuf on your channel, it's been great so far, even the stuff I thought would not have been personally interesting has been great to watch. More recent stuff please, I cannot find the time nor afford to come and see your centre, but I love the place regardless.
Thanks for posting this - great to hear the background to the project.
We love you, Eben and Liz!
_"we"_ ? Maybe you do, but I am unsure how I can _"love"_ people I've never met. Maybe... respect, or admire would be more apt.
Awesome interview. I have all the Pis, I particularly love the Zero W 2 and the Pico.
Having read the comments I appreciate I'm not the first to say this but you REALLY need to get some compression or automate the levels on this video's audio! If you don't know how to do that and you want a hand with it then - because I think the content deserves to be heard - get in touch. You might also have some sort of phasing going on between the lavalier mic and the camera's mic? Not sure, but it really shouldn't be that hard to make considerably better . . . it's a shame to leave it as it is.
Shame there's no link to a circuit diagram for that breadboard pc/historical artifact.
He's bang on when he talks about Spectrum -> Atari ST vs BBC Micro to Amiga! Although in my case I was ZX Spectrum and never made to the Atari ST until the mid 90s!
Banana Retro I remember him saying that before. My uncle had a spectrum and then an Amiga.
What a very interesting interview....nice.
i like how his voice starts to rise and then gets quiet, lol,
If you accidentally short circuit the Pi, or put too much voltage through it and kill it, I suppose one may say that you've _"Blown a raspberry"_
^_^
Or maybe you could say you just got pi’d
Thank you for the very interesting interview x
Eben looks like Jason Statham. :)
Shit I came here to post exactly that.
Why is the raspberry pi still listed as a product that you can buy?
Arise, Sir Eben!
for me the best comapny and idea since the apple 1, easily.
Raspberry Pi is amazing. I use it to run Manjaro. :)
Nice video ... but I had turn up the volume all the way to be able to hear it all ....
And look up all the computer terms he casually reels off. I still have no idea how the thing works.
@@jonnamechange6854 This video is not a tutorial.
Raspberry pi has such high potential for the future and with the right people It can revolutionize the world
Legend 🙌
My Raspberry Pi is running swimmingly atm.
-A happy South African with a Raspberry Pi.
Where is the entry point for a noob?
@@jonnamechange6854 just buy a pi, sd card, the special HDMI cable and the needed AC adaptor.
I also recommend getting a case. However if you're not planning on running a server using the Pi. Then you can look out for the Pi 400 which is a more desktop esk form factor of the Pi 4.
You can also look at various complete kits the Raspberry Pi foundation sells.
Gênio 🇧🇷
Legend.
Esto es perfecto hardware entendible, para variables de projecto abierto al inicio se buscaba integrar a la tecnología como un juego, el día de hoy es un mundo tecnológico a desarrollar, para desarrollo evolutivo de los seres humanos.🤓 Gracias por compartir.
interesting but the audio is terrible
Ebon does not enunciate at all, swallows so many words I gave up at 10:50. Pain in the arse!
@@philiprowney If you visit a doctor for that pain anyway, let him check your ears as well.
The thud from the board dropping is kinda horrifying.
The Raspi removes the economic factor and levels the playing field. It’s essentially the violin of the tech industry searching for the virtuosos across the entire socioeconomic spectrum. I know brilliant computer scientists and very poor students that use the raspi!
make a riscV board raspberrypi already
Wait. Is that..is that Jonathan Statham?? 😮
Bring back BBC BASIC :'-(
Why? But yeah get an emulator, do some work?
Check X11 Basic perhaps you will like it
The audio is terrible silent for the most parts and then for several syllables loud. Please adjust that (hint: compressor) and reupload the video ... :-)
I knew Jason Statham was worth more than all those bad movies ;-)
raspberry pi 4 soon coming or is it google pi hahah
Insulting him attacking Whites.
This guy likes to make eye contact about as much as eye do, I find it incredibly painful and hard to focus when I look people in the eyes while talking.
He looks like that english action actor.....forgot his name
statham?
Why is he raising his voice like that. Also, it would seem like he is somewhat discrediting soft skills by his hailing of math and its implied meritocracy.
This, could be a candidate for ASMR submission! 😬
This conversation is very strange, the guy talks like he invented the new makers computer, where actually Arduino was there since 2006- when he built his AVR computer. He also say "this can only happen in UK or in silicon valley" , really? whats so special about his pcb? just a few chips that any good hardware engineer know how to set together. You have maybe 30 kinds of development boards most of them have been there very early , before the Pi. So its strange, he speaks like he invented the first personal computer, without a single word about Arduino and many many others that have been there before him and made a great job.
Yeah, the thing is Ron you have to look at the whole picture. What's been achieved is the package of releasing a board which generated a ton of interest and has created a sort of mini-industry in its own right; and there are a lot of projects around this computer now. Take your point there probably was the Arduino and I'm sure others, but the tech needs to generate interest to achieve its potential and we don't have kids and schools using Arduino.
Yes, and PIC programming projects were big in the 90's so well before Arduino too.
No, he said Cambridge, not the UK, and he's referring to the density of multi-disciplinary talents and networking possibilities, both tech and business.
The achievement is in putting the system together at a very low cost and still being commercially viable. People who aren't professional engineers appear not to understand this.
The Pi doesn't claim to be the pre-eminent makers computer. It's going for a slightly different market from that of Arduino and is doing different things. You may be mistakenly misapprehending the Pi through an Arduino hobbyist's lens.
Show a bit of respect, its Raspberry Pi! I see your point but let him tell his story. And as for Cambridge its the history back to bbc micro and archimedes and sinclair spectrum.
He did, it was a full ARM not some cut down 8 bit RISC chip. Sounds like sour grapes, I built many circuits long before the RasPi, but, I'm not complaining about the product, just the kids mumbling :0þ
Ron T how much was an OMAP Beagleboard, not $10, I'm sure, try $500 or $1,000 [ STILL $150 NOW ], again you only show your own ignorance because if you were prototyping products in the 00's [ like me ] you would have been happy if there was a PI.
'Arduino' is a toy in comparison to the first PI.
I heard RUclips commentors were even more ignorant than FaceBook users...
PS that profile picture is me, I hide from no-one =]8¬_D
This guy is extraordinarily difficult to understand, he whispers some words and talks very fast and slow which adds to the difficulty, not to mention the shitty audio work, too bad because I was interested what he has to say.
I was going to say try using the captions supplied, but they can't work out what he's saying either. He keeps talking into his chest at crucial moments of his explanations so you can't hear him. This is very common amongst industry pioneers.
The audio seems fine to me, but yes I always have a hard time understanding the British speech cadence.
Try getting hearing aids. English is my 2nd language and I have no problems understanding him at a normal volume level.
and then he say "we wanted to get children's to be excited " about what? another development board which is much faster? like these kids would even be able to use 1% of its power? the whole story is strange to me. They made it for children where they used a power computer , they could have been use a 8 bit processor with 8Mhz.
You're thinking like an adult techie mate :) what the children are excited about the whole piece rather than the board itself. Don't look at the board, look at the whole thing. I know you're gonna say that Arduino or others deliver the same tech but they aren't supported, promoted or used in the say way.
Really? you really think a f**ing processor of 1GHz is the right tool to teach kids to code? other platforms such as Little Bits, and others are pretty much better for kids. They say Pi is for education because today you need to set some "important purpose" to get your startup noticed. Luckily they got a good press and made an history. Saying thats what brings kids to learn how to code is, sorry to say, kind of bullshit.
Ron T ... A lot of it, like anything in life, is luck and timing. The spec isn't really relevant, what's happened is that this has caught peoples attention and peaked their interest. The other stuff that's out there - arguably much better I'm sure - hasn't done that.
Running Linux and having access to all its various languages and toolchains is the real win.
its cool because you can do whatever what you want with it, people of all ages can use it. I have seen highschoolers use that much computing power with programs before.
"Diversity"? Really?
Oh yes! Quite so!
Despite his talk of meritocracy in maths, he was able to identify a major issue affecting the world of technology since the mid-1980s. Which is part of the reason for the decrease in the number of young people getting into STEM, decades later. Though he’s an engineer, this is keen insight into the social system behind these developments.
Also, that lack of diversity has been involved in a lot of groupthink. Much easier to stick to a given paradigm when everyone comes from the same socioeconomic background. We saw that in finance, close to a decade ago. It’s now biting the computer world.
Of course, there’s been a lot of STEM enthusiasm outside the UK and US. It might take a while before we get a full understanding of how the world will change, but the South Asian presence in STEM programs (in North America, at least) is already a sign of something happening.
Yes, transvestite muslims are coming
@@AlexandreEnkerli Diversity in STEM was never an employer issue , it's a fundamental problem of Education and what student's where encourage or discouraged from learning , plus Parents share a role in this as well.
In America and your Google and you want to hire more African American's as top level engineer's , but they simply aren't for whatever reason going into that field, then what's Google to do, they deal with the end result of economic, school's , local government, cultural issues more than saying Google won't hire them.
Booooring 😴😴😴😴😴
damn what language is he talking, this can‘t be british english
What is a purpose of a $60 computer, without:
- power supply
- video port
- case
- x86 compatibility
and with:
- a flimsy microUSB power port
- connectors on 3 sides?
That's just a waste of radio components.
You can choose to buy a power supply or use one you already have. Saves being forced to buy a supply you don't need. The Pi has composite output and HDMI. Again no point forcing a case on people. Different projects need different cases. Much nicer to keep the price lower and let people sort out their own case. Not sure why you would want x86 compatibility ...
IkarusKommt A computer doesn't need a case to work, and neither does it need X86 compatibility. The pi isn't $60 is it? It has a video port and you can get a power supply for it.
..but yeah microUSB is Filmsy....aka Sucks!!
True Pi is only 35 bucks yo
1 it's silent
2 it's arm, which kicks x86 to the curve in terms of power efficiency.
3 they're Linux capable machines...
(Meaning they shipped with a large software catalogue out of the box on day 1)