“ChopSmith”: Wen Sliding Miter Saw from your Wall to your Shopsmith and Back!
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2023
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I can’t believe that it was nine years ago when Shopsmith’s Doug Reid panned the camera down during a tour of his shop and revealed one of the smartest little shop-built gadgets I had seen in some time, which was a mount for support a miter saw in the way tubes of a Shopsmith tool. (🎬 See it here: • Shopsmith-Our New Shop... )
This is my take on Doug’s idea, and if it tickles your fancy I believe I covered its construction in enough detail that you can reverse engineer it to fit your saw or application.
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Thank you Scott. I brought my Shopsmith with me to my home in Mexico and rearranging once again. Your chopsmith is soon to be added .
Glad to hear you like it.
Oh my goodness. You have to be the first person ever in the universe to put a piece on backwards. Love your videos.
I was afraid that was the case.
At least they were identical pieces, so it was just a matter of flipping it around the right way.
Not like he cut identical pieces that were supposed to be mirrored pieces, out of special ordered colored phenolic resin coated plywood... but I wouldn't know anything about that...🙄
Scott when I saw the title of the upcoming chopsmith video I started thinking hum.. if you mounted it on the rails you could use the extension tables... Now the video comes out great design may have to unscrew my Bosch from my work bench. Tks for picking me more projects to complete.
I built my Chop Smith based on your design. I love the way it works. I don't have walls to hang my chop saw on, so this serves several purposes as well as storage. Thanks 4:03
Excellent idea, very well explained. Thank you, I'm now envisioning multiple "add ons" that will make my SS even more multifunctional.
Run with it!
I love this idea. I've never had enough space for a chop saw but this idea may change my mind. The ability to quickly set a tool onto the Shopsmith way tubes and use the Shopsmith's main and extension tables as part of that tool, then remove it and place it onto a wall to use it there is priceless. Very ingenious!
Just purchased the DWS780 on Amazon Prime and will totally be building a Chopsmith
Talk about a good idea! Using a cleat system to mount the saw for storage is a great idea. And the modification of the side pieces to lock onto the way tubes is basic genius. Just the thing for my 1958 Greenie Mk V.
Glad you liked it!
I saw that idea on Doug's channel years ago and thought it was pretty slick! I got that same saw he used. I had a thought about making a fence with this. Mount an extension to the miter gage and then mount it in the slot backward. Align the assembly to the miter saw fence. Lock it down and you have a fence for stops. Also, I too have a couple holes in my kreg jig 😉.
What a great way to save space! I have been thinking about building a rolling cabinet for my miter saw but this may be a better solution with the added benefit of saving some floor space.
Wow, great idea really. Acquired my first ever “chop saw” (the Worx) around Christmas and quickly set it up on my very movable WorkMate where it’s been since. 50 plus birdhouses later, a few saw horses, a work bench & a few lanterns & wind spinners later and it sure would be nice to have the Chop Saw set up when I need it, but don’t sitting on the WorkMate. Then along comes your “Chop-Smith” - perfect solution, solves a lot of my current issues. Thanks! Scott.
I’m glad you like it. Recently I was looking for my Workmate and after searching around the shop, I realized that my router table had been planted on it months ago and hadn’t been removed. It really does need to be kept clean in order to be as useful as it should be when we need it. I think something like this is gonna be very helpful. Scott
I love this idea. It is great that you include the mishaps. They happen so easily. Not having any experience with the French cleat, I would be concerned about the hold strength of the cleat as it is only 3/4 " thick and given the size and weight of the table. I think I would be inclined to double the thickness of the cleat on the wall.
Thanks for another great video.
Nice to know you are Human
I was waiting for that moment as I saw the mistake earlier in the video.
Thanks for sharing the ooops with us.😢😊
When I was editing the video, I couldn’t believe how long it was before I caught the actual goof!
Very nice idea. My chop saw sticks out the back so wall mounting is out but using two 3/8" knob bolts on opposite corners the saw can be attached and removed from the base easily. Also I have a small portable B&D router table I have been setting on the way tubes sandwiched between a floating table and the main. It still can be moved forwards and back but adding a shorter version of your tube riders to the bottom (it is already mounted to a plywood base) would lock it into the tubes. I think I will use 2x4's instead of birch. Thanks for the info on this.
Those sound like awesome additions.
PS, love corn cob pipes also.
Thats an awesome project! When we love our shopsmiths sooo much we want ALL of our tools (like routers and mitersaws) to work with them! For sure!
So true!
Good idea, I had set up my sliding chop saw to fit into my workbench and then removed when I am done with it. The problem is the work bench was huge and I just don’t use the chop saw all that often maybe once a year. I got rid of the workbench but the saw is a hold over from when I did finish work years before. I spent too much to let it go and I can never get out even half of what I spent. At the time it was the best that money could buy. Setting up a stand on the shop smith just might take care of a few problems.
Glad you found it helpful. I continue to use it and it has been very handy.
Great video! Fun to see your shop come together!
On new construction I've placed plywood on the studs behind the drywall. That way I don't have to worry about where the studs are to hang items.
Very interesting idea Scott. It certainly would be a space saver. Love it!
Thanks, Anne!
Awesome! I cannot wait to build one on my 720! My miter saw is rather large (and takes up LOTS of space), but I can make it work! Thanks!
Go for it!
Good thing you didn't glue it straight away. I did one of these things several years ago it ended up being super heavy and I ended up putting a couple furniture carts from harbor freight under it to get it out of the way and use it on the ground. I do like how you took the sliding feature into consideration.
Casters are an excellent idea! I’m steeling it!
@@MyGrowthRings Can't wait to see it in action.
So Cool. I have to try this now!
So nice to see a fellow woodworker with the primary workbench(s) covered over with miscellaneous loose items and unfit for purpose - and using the SS saw table as a work area, At least you are not down on your hands and knees on the floor assembling things - as I do.
At least not in this video, you mean.
BTW, my wife gave me a sign that said “A place for everything, and everything on the workbench“. I’m sure it’s somewhere in the shop.
Fun project! The satisfaction one gets from making something that is just a thought is immeasurable. Good job!
Thanks, Clyde!
Fun idea! I have that Bosch saw you have, so I can’t imagine mounting that on anything and trying to move it. I’m pretty sure I’ve hurt my back every time I’ve had to lift that thing to haul it to another location for one reason or another. 😂 Maybe my Harbor Freight chop saw needs the ChopSmith upgrade, though…
Yeah, there is no way I could have mounted my Bosch Dual Glide to this and ever hopped to move it!
God luv ya! I needed that smile and chuckle this morning! Thank you Scott!
Thanks, Bob.
Fantastic idea! I have a ShopSmith 500 I bought used a few months ago, my old Craftmans table saw went out and I decided to try out the ShopSmith so I watched your videos got the saw lubed and wasn't real happy with the small table area and the fence was a bit sloppy, so I bought a Jet table saw but the main reason I bought the ShopSmith was for the other features, lath, bandsaw, drill press, disk sander. I know I could and need to up grade the table or at least fine a better solution for a fence so I could still use it for dado and other special cuts but adding a chop or sliding saw ( my shopsmith isn't aganist a wall) would save me a lot of room in my small shop, so thanks again for this great idea!
I think it would be perfect for your situation. Thanks for watching and commenting. Scott
Just what I needed, lol. Another project ! I love it. I have an old Craftsman mitersaw that's been gathering dust because I don't have room to set it up. I also like the mounting method. Thanks.
Perfect!
Very clever ! In respect to wall cleat I see one thing that will show over time. While resting and support is on cleat downward pressure and leverage is on sheet rock. Mounting a full piece of ply 26” wide x the length of very clever smith adaptor you now have proper support and anchorage of cleat and adapter bracing. Just a thought. Very cool vid bud. Always thinking.
That’s a very good point, John. Thanks for chiming in. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings your welcome. I am impressed with the cleat for smaller equipment as well as so many others were in the comments. In a shop it’s seems a cleat system is all about storage and some ease of use. You took this to another level. Think of the shop cabinetry that can be saved on and the cost while keeping lower floor space open for other things and easy cleaning of floor to wall. I’m in a insulated metal bld with no internal sheeting except we’re I did implement at my welding table for safety an not destroy insulation. This may be worth sheeting another area as I’m always looking to better my shop lay out. I’ll remember this one. Thank you.
@@johnanthony2545 I'm at that same juncture in my shop life and am totally conflicted, which is why I show a couple ways of doing things. Thanks for watching and commenting. Scott
Hals Wood Shop. Good Ideas and Thanks. Also thanks for the idea for the stand for my answer to a SS router table...same frame , different height, different use.
Glad to be of service. Scott
Generally speaking if you know where something's going to be in advance wood blocking is your best option in the wall prior to drywall. In a shop environment it's pretty safe to just put blocking that self-level the entire way around. Drywall anchors will only take so much abuse before they start to wiggle loose. My solution is too simply fill the void behind the hole with expanding foam, just prior to inserting the anchor. You want to select the amount of expansion in the particular phone for the size of void you have, but I've had a great success with this solution.
You were right, that would be the best option. I had some blocking, put in for the barn door, but had no intention of using cleats on my walls.
Having bought my second ShopSmith (and a second Radial Arm Saw) this may be the solution to my “where do I put everything” problem.
Did you get a SawSmith?
@@MyGrowthRings no, the RAS is a Delta Multiplex, dating from the late 1940s or early 1950s. Neglected and lonely, it “followed me home” (that’s what I told my wife).
@@paulplant7956 They’ll do that.
Great idea Scott Thank you.
Thanks, Paul.
I like the base build. I plan on using it to build a drum sander
Me too! The idea for the base actually came to me as I was revisiting my sander build.
Thanks for sharing how to make a base for the ChopSmith. What an ingenious stand. 26:42 May 13, 2023.
Thanks Terre. What are you referring to in the time stamp? Scott
No reason for the time stamp. Just fat fingers.
Brilliant, thank you.
Think I make a second one for my Dewalt 735. Will increase my in feed and out feed capacity. Good use for my older 500 and can use the 520 for other work.
I know it’s been a year, but I just saw this video. I’ve been laughing out loud the moment I saw the other piece has been installed backwards. You’re worried about where the pocket holes were but still didn’t see what the actual problem is. 🤣😂😅
Yeah, I really set myself up for failure on that one! Scott
Brilliant.
Thanks, David.
I thought I screwed up but then I didn’t and then I did again.
The history of woodworking
I was thinking of mounting my router table onto a piece of plywood and clamping it to the Workmate but adding it to the way tubes of the SS might be a good idea.
What’s the approximate weight of the whole unit?
Please post the drawings of the cutouts?
IMHO, the chop saw cutting on the laser is a good thing. I can always move the wood so the laser isn’t on the line.
Jodie, I’m gonna have to weigh it because I just don’t know. I’ll do that before our follow up video.
Great idea and I love your cleat system
Thanks, Chet.
Scott, thanks for the great idea!!! I have a photo of Doug Reid's set up on my "To Build" list. But I just wasn't quite happy with how I thought it would work for me. I will build your design here in the near future. this will be a great addition to my shop. I have also enjoyed the comments from the other watchers. Specifically the ideas of using magnets and mounting the table backwards from how you have done it. I also appreciate the idea of Wen saw pulling forward on tubes. Rather than the other saws having the tubes extend out the back. I look forward to all of your videos!
I’d love to see a pic of yours once you get it done. Yes, my channel gets the best comments on RUclips! Scott
Well, bless your heart, Scott! Thanks for sharing this awesome idea! It was perfect timing for me. I have been trying to figure out what to do with my chopsaw to gain a bit of room in my small shop.
Glad to hear it, Mark.
Scott, I love the moments of shop reality that crop up; thanks for leaving them in! (And the person who over-drilled your Kreg jig may be a mystery, but I definitely know who (me) made the extra holes on mine! Blue shavings... never a good sign.) Plus, great design! Might have to make one of those.
He did it to yours too?!?!
I did a modified version that clamps on the bottom like the Shopsmith planer and I added a little compartment underneath and put wheels on the bottom so I don't have to carry it and instead of mounting it on the wall I just park it somewhere out of sight.
Tim, I received the suggestion of adding wheels, and that makes a lots of sense for transport within the shop.
This was fun! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice. Thank you for sharing .
Thanks for watching and commenting.
ChopSmith, cute 😁
Wow. Baltic Birch, I remember when we all had a stash of BB. I really like this idea. My basement shop is only 9'9"' x 9'9" (that's just 95 sq. ft.!) and I really want to move my Shopsmith off the porch and down there for winter use (ultimately a second SS). This would give me a place for my miter saw, too. My other takeaway is that this whole project is easier if you already have the chop saw sitting in the shop, my visualization is just fine but I have found a lot of dimensioning errors in downloaded manuals, especially when they convert metric to "freedom" units. Including the book I got with my little WEN lathe. Your could just notch the front and back of the drawer to clear the "Bittner's" and then add a false front to hide your work. OTOH the "Chopsmith" is just a jig.
Yes, this BB cost a fortune! You are so right about manuals. For two years when I was new with my employer, I was faxing out copies of mounting instructions for a piece of hardware, that I later learned had changed before I ever started! I can’t imagine how many people drilled holes in their cabinets, only to find out when the hardware arrived that they had drilled them in the wrong place. Scott
Great idea! That same table could be used for all sorts of other bench tools. My chop saw has been sitting on floating tables on my 510 for a while. I planned to mount it on a table that would be hinged on the wall so I could tilt it up to working height, but I will more often want something completely portable because I'll probably use it most often when replacing all the molding throughout my house. I think I can find a way to mount this on the wall so it can tilt up, maybe by switching the fore and aft slot shapes so it can just hang on a 1-3/4" pipe mounted on brackets. I wonder if it would be easier to mount the table on the way tubes with the slot shapes switched so the initial alignment of slots on a way tube happens at the front. Even if I don't use it on the Shopsmith all that often it's worth it for me to try out that kind of table. You might want to add something that will clamp the table down on the way tubes so it can't bounce or slide. I wonder if some magnets of a practical size could hold it tight under use.
MAGNETS! Now you’re speaking my language, Ed.
Thanks Scott. Great video and I am glad this idea is finally out there on RUclips. I have used the same slots on my 'Chop-Smith', mount, and find it easier to use the handle on the top of the saw to lift on and off, but lifting it on and off from the rear: drop it onto the rear way tube, and then lower it onto the front - tilt backwards to disengage from the front way tube when removing, and just lift off. That way it is less strain than reaching around the whole thing to lift it off forward. I also use a similar mount for a router as others have commented upon here. Thanks so much for all your time and effort to share your invaluable knowledge about this amazing machine. Maybe you could share a simple pdf template of the spacing and dimensions in the sides of the mount for others who want to try this?
Mounting and removing from the rear makes a ton of sense and I’ll make sure to give it a try. I’ll look into the PDF idea.
Great Stuff Scott! keep inovating.
Thanks, Frank.
These days a 3D printer can print versions of the plastic knobs which use a standard nut or the standard head on a hex bolt. I print these often for use on my jigs. The Bittner nut is a good idea, but I prefer the larger size of the 3D printed knobs. I agree the commercial plastic knobs molded over a standard nut are too expensive.
I did get a smile from the pieces being screwed in wrong. We have all done such things.
Dave.
I have a new 3-D printer that I’ve yet to play with and knobs are definitely high on the list of things I hope to produce. Thanks for your encouragement to include my errors!
Thanks for the video. Usually when I put something together wrong it's glued and setup by the time I notice. Then I have to cut it apart or beat it apart to fix it. I swear I could smell your pipe while you were recording this video. Lol
I’ve done that more times than I want to remember!
Great project.
Thanks, Brad.
As my favorite woodturner says, "It's not a mistake, its a design modification."
I agree with that when it comes to turning. It’s hard to find any redeeming qualities in that particular modification!
When mounted on the wall; add some outriggers on cleats on either side of the saw that can slide for different lengths of stock support.
Good thinking. Dang it, I’m going to wind up with a wall full of cleats, aren’t I?
@@MyGrowthRings Possibly. I'd leave some room for peg board as well, but that's just me. I still think peg board has it's place and purpose, unlike most others.
Lol.. we did catch it. As you were talking about the screw holes being in the 'same side'
I can’t believe how long it took for me to catch it.
Thank you Scott for another Great Video. That's a project I'll attempt. Any possibility that you'll offer a printable
plan. Thank you
Great video. Looks like I may have to replicate this!
Do it!
Great idea Scott & I like the blooper. As I was watching I noticed something different. Lol
Sooooo many bloopers. What did you catch?
@@MyGrowthRings the part where the ends of the jig were backwards. Lol
Nice. I think that solves a problem I "over which I was mulling" - gotta love English.
I think a couple of handles midway up the sides under the overhang would be useful, and I wonder if there isn't some way to adjust that foot so that you wouldn't have to rebuild or buttress the top ... ? Otoh, if you made your drawer face to come up and cover the edge of the top it would support that foot when closed. 🤔
I like the way you think.
Clever!
Thanks.
LOVE IT!!!! looks good and its multi-functional!! This will make a great addition to the shop (AKA second home). Now I know your going to be posting drawings for this at some point, right?
Do you have dimensions for how wide to set the holes for way tube slots and or a template (lol being greedy here!) fantastic idea.
The tubes are 1 3/4” and are 7” on center. I guess I edited out that part! Considering the video is so long it’s hard to believe I did any editing! Scott
Pretty neat.
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I've been watching NYW channel. I didn't realize Norm had a Shopsmith in his shop.
Oh yes, he had two during the first season and one with a lathe duplicator showed-up a few times throughout the show’s run.
Cool set-up. Tight up until the end I thought you had forgotten your desire to use the SS tables as extensions. Was it simply the camera angle that fooled me? Crazy John
No, I pulled the main table off so you could get a better look at everything, but otherwise, I don’t see a reason to remove the tables.
@@MyGrowthRings Check out the view at 20:29. Your ChopSmith is resting on the tubes and the Main Table on the headstock. Looks like a 2" difference.
A tool I use and am quite fond of is called a Jawhorse … check it out, you might like it also.
I own one.
Scott, thanks for another great video! It's very instructional to watch you "fly by the seat of your pants"- encountering and solving problems as you go. For a jig/fixture I intend on using for a long time, I would have waited for the saw to arrive before finalizing my plans and before cutting any wood/drilling any holes. Also, as I recall from the beginning of the video, you plan on cutting long 2x10s which need support on the right and left, which you don't yet have on the wall.(but you do have on the Shopsmith).
Now for a cheap shot...How many circular saws do you have? At least 3 Wens, and now a Wen chop saw! I thought you were a Shopsmith guy! "Wen" did you defect? LOL! Your future shop looks very spacious...good thing! jim
Hey Jim. Yes, my intent is to use the ChopSmith mostly mounted on my Shopsmith for the additional support it offers, but you are correct, if it is used on the wall for lang stock I’m back in the same place as I am with my current Hitachi saw. How many saws do I own or do I use? You have t seen the tip of the iceberg! Scott
This is brilliant. 😎
I wasn't woodworking back when Doug first let this out of the bag. I'll be building one for my DeWalt miter saw asap. Thanks Scott.
I don't suppose you have a drawing you can share for those legs that fit over the way tubes, do you? 🧐
Not yet, but I suppose I’ll need to make one.
i like that the saw bars are out at you . at one pont i thot you had not pot then on yet. and you wor going to be miss up again lol. i think im going to save up for this saw so i can cut wider bords. and yes some day i need to get me a Pocket-Hole Jig are make one. you all seme to have them and i steel do not. and now im thing win i make the sander ... making it go on like this boy you give me a lot to do... i love it thanks. keep me doing some thing . being retired is not as fun as you all think ...
ok now im seeing if it works sander and saw on top. oh this is going to be a long night... butt fun for me
Pocket hole joinery is very handy and they are used by virtually all face frame cabinetmakers in the USA today.
Necessity is the mother of all invention great job, taking something you already had, and making use for another tool I suppose that makes that a mark six now, right
Or at least a 5.5
those way tube brackets are a nice redesign, I have given up on making a SS headstock powered RAS....the USA in me is sad to see that Wen sitting up there
I get what you are saying. WEN used to be a US manufacturer but I guess we have to settle for it being a US corp and brand.
I am always a bit hesitant about relying on gravity to hold a tool in place. It occurs to me that you could use some sort of sprung loaded catch/clip to hold it down so it can be lowered into place just as easily, clips into place and then can easily be removed by releasing the catch/clip to get it off the way tubes.
Jonathan, yes, that thought occurred to me too, and any opportunity to incorporate a magnet also appeals to me! I’ll continue to play with it and may ultimately make that recommendation. Great minds… Scott
@@MyGrowthRings Thinking about it a bit more, something modelled on a self-locking gate latch would do the trick with a spring to hold it in place
I purchased a wen 10 in 2 speed chop saw as I wanted to be able to run metal blades in it too It was pretty crap. A pain of a lot to undo to et the blade out then the 5/8 arbor was a few thousands over. The wen blade fit fine but my others would not. So I ended up removing the blade and turning the saw on low as I placed a file on the arbor shaft. I did get standard blades to fit. You have to have a screwdriver and a allen to change blades. The back fence was not straight either. each side was set back about a 1/16th next to the blade so placing a straight edge the middle of the fence had a 1/16th in gap. I had to ad a sacrificial fence. I should of sent it back but I had not used it much the first month. they do not make it any more.
WEN 70730 15A Two-Speed Single Bevel
Wow, that sounds awful. This one is pretty good right out of the box. It’s no Bosch, but it’s not bad.
@@MyGrowthRings I have a wen Dremel with a flex shaft I think I paid 17 bucks for several to like 4 or 5 years ago and I loved it so much I got my dad one. I mean the bits it come with are trash but the tool is nice and powerful. Then I have a finish nailer anda random orbit wen sander. I have no issues out of it. I still have the other saw... I use it for cutting metal only. It is nice to have a compound miter that can cut steel. but it sure left a bad taste in my mouth.
I built a similar table to power my strip sander from the Shopsmith
Tell me more, Rob. It was a Shopsmith strip sander, but you were powering it with something else? Or was it someone else’s sander that you powered with your Shopsmith?
Boy, that's a lot to go through just to mount an SCMS on a ShopSmith. I took the lazy way and just mounted my SCMS on a piece of plywood the same size as my "500" table. Then I just held it in place with a couple of "F" clamps. And I had plenty of board support using two support tables, one on each end. I could cut a miter on a 10" board 10 feet from the other end without worry. I'm obviously into "Easy Peasy."
But look at all the fun woodworking you missed out on.
So the front of your table have a radius to accommodate the miter foot.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I love your videos I was wondering have you done a video how to adjust the eccentric bearing on shopsmith Thank you.
Hey Peter, thank you for your kind words. No, that topic was covered well by Jacob Anderson in a series of maintenance videos that he once charged for is now offering for free on his channel. Search “Shopsmith Jacob Anderson” and whatever search term you’d like to add and YT should direct you to his excellent content. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings ty so much for fast reply. I will visit his channel
@@Peter-od7op My pleasure.
Have you put out a plan for the way tube Miter Saw ?
No, not exactly. In the follow-up to this video, which is now channel member content, I went over it in details that pretty much covers all aspects of the build.
Scott, what apps do you use on the iPad for woodworking, shop drawing’s? BTW, I love the barndominium.
Gill, I’ve been playing around in GoodNotes, but it is truly just for note taking and sketching. Barndominium made me laugh, BTW. Well played.
Although I like the idea of the "chop-smith", you could have done a little better with the wall mount. You may see in the future it falling off the wall with a little weight applied. If it was me, I would either use 1" ply or laminate 2 pieces to make the cleats or two cleats an upper and lower. The cleat and/or would be taller and stronger. Just is going to be a lot heavier and stress on a normal 3/4" cleat? Am I looking at this wrong?
Hey Milt. I think you are spot on and I plan on addressing this is the follow-up video. Scott
What are the thoughts of doing the points where it connects to the tubes the opposite direction of what you did? It might be easier to hook the front and let the back fall into the slot. At least it seemed that way when you were trying to set the saw on the tubes.
Problem there is when you use the chop saw you are pulling down on the front which would tilt the back off the rear tube.
@@Pascalore that's a good point and likely the thought process behind how it was done.
It is what I was thinking when I designed it, but someone else suggested, installing it from the rear in the same configuration might be better, and I think that’s worth trying. I’ll report back in the follow up video. Scott.
Have you got the measurements for the cutouts on the way tubes?
The holes are 1 3/4” in diameter and they are 7 inches center to center.
Thank you.
Any issue with horizontal movement of the Chopsmith when its on the Shopsmith carriage or do you sandwich it between the main table and an accessory table?
Not that I’ve experienced yet and no, it’s not a tight fit between the end and the carriage. I suppose you could slide the carriage over and tighten it in place, but that might interrupt an operation that you’re performing with it. I think there might be an opportunity to add some magnets or some non-slip element.
@@MyGrowthRings Take ever opportunity you can to add magnets! Even if they are just for cosmetic value... They just make everything more attractive
Scott, by chance, do you have a SketchUp file to share for the sides which lock onto the tubes? Yeah, I’m being lazy…I know
You aren’t being lazy, but no, not yet.
Well, I will have one available to share in the next few days…LOL
Didn't understand your point about if you use a French cleat that is "taller" (forgot the word you actually used) you could hit a few more studs. If it is taller one could hit that centered stud with a few more screws. Am I missing something?
Imagine that the cleat is 2 feet tall. You wouldn’t hit more studs, but more screws could be driven down the single stud, making it more rigid.
@@MyGrowthRings agreed, that was exactly my point. Check what was said at 25:10. 🙂
@@gordonh2294 Yep, I misspoke.
Bench
Circular saw.
Circular saw who?
How high are those slide bars off it's table? The saw's description says it can miter baseboard 6.75" wide but looking at this video it doesn't seem like it.
They are about 3 1/2 inches off of the table. They claim that it can be used for crown molding is assuming that the crown molding is held at an angle, as many framers do. To cut six and three-quarter inch baseboard, would require you to lay the base flat as opposed to standing upright. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings S'what I'm trying to avoid. Everyone's opening up walls nowadays leaving nooks, boxed posts... a lot of baseboard. But hey if this thing's easy to lug around and shove in the truck I'm happy. Thanks man
@@TheJollyGreen Happy to help and which I had better news.
@@MyGrowthRings Woop didn't mean for this to be a convo, haha, tried to edit before you responded (he's fast people!). Just dawned on me the tracks are only on one side of the blade so I just have to stick with the other side, cut a butt end first then bevel, sometimes the backside toward me. I wouldn't say that's a deal breaker... hrmmm...
Thanks x2
@@TheJollyGreen I just happen to be trapped in the SkyClub at ATL, so your timing was good!
Oooo, woodworking! With surging view counts like this you’ll have to make it a habit!
Who knows?
@@MyGrowthRings either way it’s on fire, congrats
what kind of tablesaw do you think he cut that plywood on.?
I used my track saw for most of the cuts. Why do you ask?
Scott, help BOD but cannot "get" to the members-only videos
Hey William. Are you using a PC, phone or iPad?
@@MyGrowthRings pc
@@williamfriedrich9970 Please try this link: www.youtube.com/@MyGrowthRings/membership
@@MyGrowthRings Hi Agin Scott. I can get to the correct MGR site, I can see the "members only" videos, but they will not "play". I have viewed these in the past, I also have seen my BOD identiifier button in the past but not now, and I checked my bank card and my membership amount is being charged. It seems that everything was working OK in the past couple of months but not now. Is there any way you can check or do you know of any way I can check. Much Thanks...Bill
@@williamfriedrich9970 Sorry you’re having this frustration. On my end I don’t see you listed any longer, and you’re right, the little MGR logo isn’t showing up next to your name. Please click on the “Membership” tab on the channel page and make sure it’s showing the correct there. www.RUclips.com/mygrowthrings/membership
I did see it, but I thought your intention was to twist it into place?
Twist what?
@@MyGrowthRings the chop saw table onto the tubes; rotate it into place, instead of sliding it into place.
@@digconway1121 Got ya!
throw away that WEN blade and get a good 80 tpi blade and you will have a great diy saw.
I imagine that I will do that eventually. My Bosch saw is running a Forrest ChopMaster, which is pretty spectacular. I doubt I will go to that extent with this saw. Scott
If you have the Bosch saw, likely superior in many ways to the Wen, why not roll the Shopsmiths (??##??) out of the way and use it? Seems to be less work than making the item you made, gives you a better saw and no lifting. Couple adaptations to your saw horses for extensions that could serve for many years and you're good to go. I guess I'm just lazier than you are!
Keep in mind that I am a Shopsmith fanatic. This may not be the way I would do it full-time for myself, but I was sharing an idea that others might be able to build upon.
A chop saw uses abrasive cutting wheels and a miter saw uses circular saw blades with teeth.
You refer to both in this video, one is for wood and one is for metal !!
Even the box the saw came in says miter saw, just saying :-))
I’m assuming this is not the first time you’ve heard an amateur refer to a miter saw as a chopsaw, correct? Let it go.
Sorry for being so short and curt in my response. I get the same way when someone refers to a saber saw a a “jig saw”. It’s just what happens and I’m trying to let theses sort of things go. But don’t get me started on “Irreguardless”! Scott
the same thing could be done for a router table, etc.
Exactly right.