John Fashanu speaks on Football, Racism & the Tragic Death of His Brother | Special Delivery | E2
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- It's easy to have labeled John Fashanu as a brash guy with a thorny personality during his playing days, but getting to interact with him today, nothing could be farther from the truth. He was funny, introspective, respectful, and showed a lot of wisdom. Perhaps father-time has softened the once hard-man of the English Premier League and the leader of Wimbledon's "Crazy Gang", or maybe not. But in this episode of Special Delivery one thing is for sure, John was not afraid to be vulnerable as he shares his views on racism in sports, homosexuality, sibling rivalry, and privilege. This one is for the history books. Enjoy!
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro.
3:43 Giving John Fashanu his flowers.
5:01 How Wimbledon's "Crazy Gang" defeated Liverpool in the 1988 FA Cup.
7:34 Why John Fashanu signed for Wimbledon - a 7-year old club at the time.
10:05 John Fashanu on teammate Vinnie Jones.
12:12 John Fashanu on his hard-nosed style of play.
13:41 Stats over applause, any day.
15:53 John Fashanu speaks on his first big splash.
17:48 Where did John Fashanu get his arrogance and mindset?
19:45 "Fash the Cash": How John Fashanu became a prolific striker.
21:08 The beginning of the Justin vs. John rivalry and the ultimate bombshell.
29:23 John Fashanu on Martial Arts, bouncing back and channeling pain.
32:20 Early days: Getting bullied as a child.
40:10 Going deeper on the Justin vs. John rivalry.
45:07 John Fashanu on the Gary Mabbutt (Spurs captain) tackle.
47:12 John Fashanu on his experience with racism particularly in football.
57:54 John Fashanu addresses fans calling him a traitor for not playing for Nigeria.
1:03:00 John Fashanu and his relationship with MKO Abiola.
1:03:31 John Fashanu on football development in Nigeria and his work in the sports space.
1:06:19 John Fashanu take on the current Super Eagles.
1:08:21 Life after the game: John Fashanu on his transition from football to showbiz.
1:11:37 John Fashanu and Family.
1:13:44 Finding fulfillment in giving back in Nigeria.
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Thanks in advance everyone.
My first time listening to this podcast but feel great
😊
The brother really caused him a lot of pain.
The man is absolutely intelligent 👌
An eye opening story! Thank you Abiodun! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
John Fashanu is still hurt 🤕
You can tell from the way he speaks.
increadible interview
40:00 broke my heart.
Wow. John Fashanu is still hurt 😭.. I felt that pause.
It’s a heartfelt story! Thank you! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
I like his mentality and approach to bringing Vinnie to his corner
His survival instinct is incredibly amazing
We concur Ken!
I think Emmanuel Babayaro should try to make his questions short and sharp so that the man in the hot seat can have more time.
Thank you, noted.
Thank you
I can still feel the pain in you that you love your brother,may his soul rest in peace AMEN.
fascinating insight
Can't remember ever staying on RUclips for over one hour watching anything, but this show got me feeling like it finished too quickly. Great show, life lessons learned and I'm truly grateful for this.
Thank you so much Ken! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Having confidence in yourself make you stronger and better in your career 💪 this is a good motivation you can get today
This was a brilliant interview!!!! Sheer Brilliant!!!
The story of Justin and fash mum is a terrible experience, but I thank God that he pull through the storms
Please we need more
There must be a second part of this podcast, it's very nice and emotional one.
I enjoyed watching this... No skip.. just watched all the way...
Love it ..
Big respect to the Man John Fashanu.
Fash was at my wedding and I was so grateful, he is a legend, love the guy
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I can listen to John Fashanu all day long. He is well funny and he is a great story teller plus he is half Guyanese as I am full Guyanese so he is part of my culture.
Much love from Nigeria, Quincy. We hope you're subscribed to the channel.
There is no difference, both sides are Isralites. 🙏🏾
What a wholesome session. Fash really needed it. Tough life from Day 1. He surely needs no stress or stressful people around him.
Great stuff... Absolutely loved it
Thank you Olatunji! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
When I heard the FASH STORY, I hear a movie waiting to be seen, and perhaps a book waiting to be read. I lack the words to qualify his experience.
That’s an interesting take, Divine! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Wow ooo, Fantastic interview and wonderful questions.
Thank you so much Abayomi! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Fantastic episode 👏
Thank you Yusuf! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Very emotional podcast. And so many learning moment.
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The trauma he must have gone through during that phase... From dealing with the toxic brotherly rivalry to being mistaken for his brother to his mother's death
That’s a lot for just one person. That’s a good take Mario. Have you subscribed to our RUclips channel? Don’t forget to turn on the notification bell too.
May be well spoken but he is utterly repugnent. John has repeatedly attempted publicy destroyed his brothers reputation since his death. His brother is not alive to give his side of the story. The only person we should feel sorry for is Justin who was Gay in an unforgiving time , in an unforgiving profession and an unforgiving family who were only interested in how it affected them. They are as much to blame for his passing as society ..
@@coldphingerJohn even claimed that his brother wasn’t gay and was just saying he was for attention in a 2012 interview with TALKsport; truly repugnant.
@@coldphinger He was also a violent thug on the pitch. He talks about how taking up martial arts taught him to employ restraint but there wasn't much restraint in evidence when he shattered Gary Mabbutt's eye socket with his elbow.
John Fashanu a great man. I am very sorry about your brothers horrible situation with you. I remembered reading about your brother last year. Then I say to my self is not Fashanu. It is his brother. I got it. I can feel the racism that you felt in Millwall. Really a bad situation. Sorry about that. John you are a very brave good powerful man. A lots of respect. One love. Well done.
This lovely... I love it...
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This is just wow!!!
Mehhnnn 28mins in. John's experiences are very heart quaking.
A heartfelt story! Thank you so much Olanari! We are bringing more episodes. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
@@ATHLST umm who is Ken?
@@olanariogbari3240 Thank You for bringing our attention to this.
This is special delivery. Today we got a well packaged emotional show. And it was great to know this story.
Thank you so much Ediale! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Very Good Show. John Fashanu, you're a proper example for many and youve given back to your own people. Rest assured you've done a lot more than many can say ❤
This is a wonderful episode.
Thank you Edafe, thank you Emmanuel, thank you John and above all thank you @Athlst for birthing this amazing podcast.
Thank you so much Peter! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
This is fully loaded episode 💪 I'm coming back
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This podcast is everything....Jst want to let you guys know u are doing a wonderful job....and i like the fact that it is nt only strictly football,like the fact that the guest open up on some of their personal stories as well.
Thanks Abdulhamid. And I hope you're subscribed to the channel. BTW let's us know if you have an athlete in mind they you want featured on the podcast. ✌
We have heard Tijanni Babangida's name come up on your podcast so many times....wouldn't mind hearing his own stories as well
I met alot of Chelsea players at hombres nightclub back in 94 /95
Menh! John as a person gone through a lot and channelling all his pains into football has to be one of his saving grace.
We concur Peter. Quite an intriguing story. Drop a like and subscribe to our channel. Remember to turn on the notification bell.
@@ATHLST sure.
Great job 👍
Thank you so much Oladiran! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Classy interview always from Athlst!
Good show and very revealing. How i wish you could've ask Fash about his controversial friend Stan Collymore. I would love to know how he coped with him...
This is totally emotional.
We concur, Akinbola! We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
Stay way from stress and stressful people , man said when he bought the first Benz he taught he would be accepted in quote among the white life lesson and how he got his self confidence from the coach that asked about the best players in their team, love the part Emma talked about the brotherly love things that might have been done in the place of love but however done in a irrational way the nugget in the episode are life lessons that would remain in one’s head for life great job to the entire team
It’s an amazing story! A lot of life lessons. Hope you’ve subscribed to our channel and turned on the notification bell?
How do we know his brother was acting on Brotherly love. This segment was so poorly handled. You were not there, growing up with Fash to experience what he went through with his Bro. The man disagreed with the long-winded attempt to change his mind and you are still doubling down, arrogantly trying to manipulate the narrative with religion and misguided advice.
I felt the pause
We concur!
@@ATHLST love this interview Mr edafe and Mr babayaro
40mins, was so cold
John why are you still so fresh?
John :staying away from stress and stressful people.
Right right. A quick life hack.
What! 😱 that's one hell of a brotherly rivalry to remove money from your brother's contract to give him less.
💯 % correct when John said: If you play football and you're a footballer and you start caring what people think, you will have problem.
it's evident now even in the game of Morden players likes Pogba, Rashford, Lukaku e.t.c
Very true sir
I really enjoyed your program, which is educative. Fash narrated what has been killing our football here in Nigeria. Abandoning good plays bcos they don't have money to bribe. For instance, Salisu was cut by a journalist collecting money to fix unfit players bcos he was told that many agents were around searching for players, and one agent gave him money to feature his player . Fifa interview and band him for certain years.
Glad you did, Micheal. I hope you've subscribed to the channel.
@ATHLST yes, I have subscribed
Big fash saw him walking down the street in London, very nice man, I also saw Celestine Babayaro at club shook his hand nice guy. That player was Gary Mabutt of Tottenham that Fash bashed into.
Lol, I had a 1989 F reg Azure blue Xr3i convertible. Then I part exchanged it for a Porche 911 supersport convertible.
That car status was a load of bull - locks back then.. Haha.
I met Dennis wise once at hombres nightclub and won a pool match against him, 1995 He was at Chelsea then.
I'm sorry John for the pain you went through. You're a fighter thou. Wish I knew you back then.
My life story is a bit similar back I dont wanna get into it.
Martial arts you're a 4rh Dan, I'm first dan,, I have a black belt in Waduryu. Japanese style.. It's all about self control
You guys are doing a great Job, a fantastic production: My take is the part of the racism, I can tell you for free that i never knew am black until I got to the United state at almost 40yrs of age, But one thing I realise is the more you live with this white people you realise those hates words were actually a thorn in the flesh. Fashanu grew with this people and he understand when they are actually mean.
But you can reverse it.
The best producer that fits this production is Elegbete. Very intelligent questions.
Thank you so much Yusuf, your words are really kind.
Well Said Abayomi! Hope you’ve subscribed to our RUclips channel. Remember to turn on the notification bell.
Wow, big up. Fash
Watching this really make me realise that racism is a thing of the mind
That’s a good take!
I agree with fash, we have ex super eagles stars with European footballing experience, let's give them a chance to coach our super eagles.
Pls wen r u guys invite Cele babayaro,tijjani babangida or d bull amokachi?
I have the same perspective on racism with Emma.
We just apply newton's 3rd law
It was so very wrong of you guys to try telling Fashanu how to feel about his Brother. You are not professionally trained Psychologists to begin trying to unpack the years of pain and trauma this man has suffered. I wish you could have kept this segment private or ar least respect his feelngs on the personal matter.
In Africa we don't hide everything about our families like you do in Europe.
Great response 😂👍🏽.
Moreover the great man Fashanu didn't seem faded answering that tough question
I heard about Fashanu''s brother too. It was terrible. I
like the racism part.
An eye opener! Thank you Olanrewaju. We are bringing more of this. Subscribe to our RUclips channel and remember to turn on the notification bell.
I want to see that penalty session, ELEGBETE vs EMMANUEL BABAYARO.
Oya godfather let's do it
Hahahaha, Edafe, I gonna make you an offer you cant refuse.
We have a World Class tie at hand 😃. Leggo!
@@godfather4324 what's the offer my godfather?
The guy hosting looks like Mohammed Ali
Yes, I agree. The interviewer s ought to be thanking their stars that they didn't get one across their lips as Sambo would retort to the white hunky in the *love thy neighbour* series of the 80s
I was 17 when he won the FA Cup. I read about his bust up then with a white player who punched his face and he taught the guy a lesson. He joked that the guy wanted to break his nose to disqualify him from holding the title of the league's most handsome player which he was voted as at the time.
I strongly don't agree with John when he said why can't the NFF hand the reigns of coaching affairs to the super Eagles ex Internationals such as Okocha, Kanu, Eguavon.
bar Eguavon, non of the above mention has Fifa top licence coaching badges and the SE coaching job should never be handed to anyone out of sentiments.
If they want the job, they should work hard for it by first getting their licence and work their way up.
Even in England John used as an example, they give out the jobs base on merit.
John flash is a mafia football man, He got everything fixed and that's includes this interview. If not how could you got Mr. Flash in front of you and not ask him about the infamous match fixing scandal ?
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I'm not a Nigerian but I used to think Fashanu was a traitor. There are always two sides to every story.
And I use to think Big John doesn’t wanna play for Super eagles .The Corruption in Nigeria Is second to none
Why do they keep interrupting john
Can we have Celestine Babayaro episode anytime soon?
Bring Cele and other Japan 93 squad that made it to Super Eagles. It will be nice to hear about the experiences and journey from under-17 to SE to retirement. Also club experience.
You bet! More episodes coming soon!
You guys were not there and then
What sort of toxic brotherly rivalry is that 🤦🏽♂️
A lot of life lessons in there.
@@ATHLST a whole lot
Great interview. But I have to say Bro Emma, you are extremely misguided on your approach to racism. Yes, we all have our prejudices, but nothing comes close to the systematic damage or impact racism coming from former Colonial exploiters in U.K. has done to Africans, Asians or Nigerians specifically. Just as Fashanu has said, it's a systemic problem which will likely always exist. Nevertheless, as a black man, you have to understand it's more than just trading a slur with a racist. It's deadly to just accept it without proactively working to minimize it's impacts on our lives. Racism doesn't affect a white man the same way it impacts us. Africans and other former Colonial subjects living in Europe suffer threats to safety, employment, healthcare and a myriad of detrimental political policies driven by racist bigotry. Just look at how Palestine is suffering under Israeli colonization, backed by Europe and Western powers. In this day and age, we are more educated, having more access to political revolutionary power as a people. If we can just unite our efforts, empathizing and supporting each other more comprehensively as Africans, Asians or anyone from the developing world/former Colonies, you will realize we have more power than you think to change the oppressive impact of racism in the world today. You can't force a racist to love you but you may mitigate the Racists impact on your well-being by making them respect the consequences of the socio-political power we possess when we stand together in solidarity, instead of cowering like cowards, accepting inhumane treatment from this systemic problem.
On point, the two interviewers were being naive.
"THE DEVIL IS A LIAR AND A MURDERER AND THE FIRST RACIST 😢😢😢
True racism is a thing of mind
What transfer record did he brake when he moved to villa? What a joke already!
ATHLST, I thoroughly enjoyed your very emotional and somewhat blunt interview with John but except that part of putting John on the back-foot over reality of racism and your effete efforts to deny racism or shrug it off. racism against black people is not only systemic and psychological but money spinner for white people spanning centuries in slavery and colonization and current neocolonial African states. ALL races including Asians (Indians) hate Black people. Mahatma Ghandi displayed racist behavior and thoughts against Black people when he was a South African immigrant in the early days of Apartheid. Emmanuel and Dafe are both speaking from point of socalled "cultured black' perspective which is actually indicative of mental conditioning or programming. Of course monkey and its chants are derogatory Black CONNOTATIVE; no thanks to centuries-old white propaganda machinery projecting blacks as monkeys! Roping in 'black on black' "racism" is a convenient argument and narrative pushed by white people and their black apologists like Emmanuel and Dafe to downplay and revise white racism. Fact is that ALL races beef and fight within and among themselves. whites kill each other: difference is that they are careful to publicize them while painting the town red with every black on black beef or homicide. Making John uncomfortable in his realism of racism is most unfortunate because the only way to fight racism is an eye for an eye mentality just like Emmanuel admonished his daughter albeit in different situation. YES I won't marry off my daughter to an Indian because Indians don't marry off their daughters/sons to Black girls and boys! John was right and I hope this interview wouldn't change his realistic and pragmatic disposition to racism.
Hi Okey, I totally agree with your narratives on the subject but while I understand your perspective, I’m afraid you missed ours.
My perspective is more from responsive rather than a victim’s. I believe if we stop sulking and start flipping the page on racists, then and only then will we start living.
Its like that nick name your friends gave you during your adolescence you didn’t like. The name persists as long as you made a big deal of it but vanishes if you didn’t.
Racism is a big deal yeah but we have to live and on our terms.
@@godfather4324 believe me, I'm trying but having a hard time understanding your rationalization or accommodation of racism. That you reduce justified black resistance to racism as "sulking" is even more tragic. Do you realize racism is a killer psychologically and aimed at denying or rubbishing your humanity? do you stop to wonder the actual mind of a racist? I don't accept that as black people, our reaction ought to be to "start flipping the page on racists": that'd only deepen and embolden perpetrators. And this line of thinking is sadly, conditioning driven much like the biblical 'turn the other cheek' admonition meek-lized and inferiorized black converts and adherents generation to generation! I speak to you as a once liberalist of western persuasion but fortunately reclaimed and revived by the African Ancestors. The only reason white people still invest and profit off of racism is black timidity or apologia of racism. I'm sure you know how european jews feel about anti-semitism? why wouldn't they just "start flipping a page" on anti semitism? today, where are you likely to get away with racist slur? with the jew or the black? seen?
@@okeyasuzu4431 my brother, the first thing you probably need to understand is that we’re on the same sides.
I have suffered my fair share of the ugly evil called racism. I have had dogs sniffing me severally at the airport in Amsterdam, each time the dog steps away the guard sends it back to sniff again and kept insisting.
My first time in Paris, I and friends were made to kneel and Empty our pockets each time we stop to gas up our car and do some little shopping by their police. This happened 4 times in one day , an ugly situation that prompted my refusal to leave the hotel room for the remaining days I spent there.
I chose not to allow these hate define my heights
Perhaps you can share with me my brother your thoughts on how this evil can be handled.
@@godfather4324 my only thought and inclination is strength and resistance and black love and unity because like the renowned black scholar and researcher, Professor John Henrik Clarke said: "we got no friends, we all we got" . It is never a good way to rationalize and be apologetic over racism as a black person. We should learn from the jews in their upfront and decisive disposition and approach to anti semitism. I think you and your co-host need to privately apologize to John for the needless discomfort caused him in what was really your attempt at political correctness over racism. the worst part is that these people still profit off of racism. Did you ever stop to wonder what must have forced John to embrace reverse racism with ALL his multicultural exposures? You can't be exposed to the demeaning realities of racism without standing up for yourself and returning it in equal measure whenever you can. Matter fact, it'd be unnatural and hypocritical to act otherwise! why do you think some western suburbs, institutions (including educational); entertainment and art; businesses and real estates etc become highly valued, exclusive and sought after? simply because of deliberate exclusion of people of color (blacks in particular)! And watch the trend take a sharp dip the moment black people begin to sneak in because there'd be instinctive white exodus from these areas or institutions. this is crazy bro. We must therefore, resist racism for its inhumanity and resultant criminal economic appropriation.
@@okeyasuzu4431 nah brother! You got our position totally wrong cause your narratives here is exactly our stand.
I said, if you call me a monkey directly , I’ll call you a pig . If you throw a banana in the midst of myself and white guys I’d ignore it because one of the white guys might just be the monkey referred. If that is not standing up, I wonder what is.
Even John saw our perspective of standing up rather than sulk.
Its all good though brother, we’re all in, Just differing in methods.
You guys interrupt each other a lot. Too many unfinished statements.
Fashanu is far too obsessed with racism and strikes me like one who doesn’t take responsibility, he is far too negative and I don’t like such people who only see the bad things in everything.
This is the first intelligent comment I've seen here; and I say that as someone who always sees the bad in things.
Mate you talking to much, I tune d in to listen to Johns story not yours as the interviewers!