Melt Boss-Level Subjugators In Master Witness EASILY With This LMG [Destiny 2]
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- The changes to the Witness encounter in Master Salvation's Edge make ad-clear and survival much harder, as the Subjugators are now boss-level, with more health, increased damage resistance and are immune to finishers and effects like blind, suppress, freeze and suspend.
But because of the way they're designed, a few off-meta damage perks make some legendary LMGs monsters at dealing with them in this encounter. Watch this guide to find out which and then tell the rest of your fireteam so your master runs are as clean as possible.
0:00 - Intro & Context
2:28 - The Science
4:18 - Damage Tests
10:53 - Conclusions
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Multiple people shooting subjugator, "Look how fast this gun kills it!"
Interesting you'd say that when the main LMG roll i'm recommending above all the others I show only me damaging and getting the subjugator to 25%.
Are you saying you think an LMG with a 70% buff in third column multiplied by a 20% buff in fourth column isn't the best option here? What would you recommend instead because everything else except maybe the marcato under-over for the strand sub is just objectively worse
@@glacierrays I was simply finding humor in the timing of the voiceover and the chosen clip to demonstrate the damage potential of said weapon, as you chose an instance when multiple people were cooking the subjugator to highlight how fast they go down, which is akin to doing a damage test on greg with 3 people and saying "look how fast his health bar goes down!" and then not showing damage numbers at the end. I don't think anyone would say that really any machine gun isn't useful for killing yellow bar +'s.
@@TheRealDigitalDecafoh right, i think that was the clip I chose to show that firing line does sometimes come and go. The format of this video was more conversational and I was playing clips and giving commentary in the moment so sometimes the footage doesn't line up perfectly
As always, great stuff. I never thought I'd give those perks a look after Match Game went away, but now I'll be looking at a backlog of options and thinking about the utility of them going forward.
I feel that. I normally keep weird combos of things but those perks were instant shards for me lol, who could have predicted this! Seriously considering going back into onslaught to get an under-over surrounded roll on hammerhead too...
ive been using an under-over ikelos sniper in the liminality gm this week because of all the solar sniper rifle juice in the artifact and it at least feels like its doing great damage to the boss cause of the shield coding on tormentor damage resistance, but i cant tell if its just confirmation bias on my end because i havent done any real testing of it; any idea if under over is actually giving me the damage bonus i think it is vs tormentors? and would this also apply to witness dps since his crit is apparently also shield coded (giving microcosm the solid damage that it gets on him)?
also does arbalest inherit any of this bonus damage to tormentors subjugators and witness given its shield breaking bonus damage?
you're also forgetting the 450 RPM Chain of Command Stasis MG, I've got a lucky roll in the vault with Adrenaline Junkie + Demo or Adaptive Munitions, so as a Stasis weapon it should deal great damage to the one Subjugator. Also has that perk which will change my damage type to Strand if i use a Strand grenade, so its almost perfect.
I didn't forget it, I just wanted to highlight the other options which are much better. Remember adaptive munitions needs a non-matching shield to work, so against the strand one chain of command will be similar to commemoration with adaptive munitions (although worse because you can't enhance chain of command), and against the stasis one it will only remove the 20% DR and have no damage perk at all. Yes you could use your grenade with osmosis to make it not stasis but why use a gun that needs an ability cooldown to activate one single damage perk, when you could just use commemoration for enhanced double damage perks which works equally well against both subjugators by default
I'd try cataclysmic with adaptive munitions next time solar surge comes up. Not only would it melt the subs, but you have a decent DPS option as backup to still hunt. I also usually try to push the subs off the map with snipers as soon as they spawn. Not sure if it works on master, but on normal they get stunned and if you do it right on spawn they fall off the back. Supremacy with kinetic tremors is best to do this, but again not sure if the boss levels will actually stun or not.
Just remembered there's also a stasis linear this season that comes with chill clip. Freezing the tormentor/shatter could be interesting..
I doubt Cataclysmic would be a good option imo, it used to be the best linear but it's been power crept hard by 3-bursts. But feel free to test it. Remember adaptive munitions is a different damage bonus on different archetypes so might be much lower on cataclysmic than the 70% you get on commemoration. Also cheeses are a different thing, i'm always going to give advice on the best way to do something legit, rather than just pushing something off a ledge
I just farmed master lost sectors for a Marcato-44 with Slice and Under Over so I could both deal extra damage to the Strand subjugators and lower their damage output. At least in theory. Well, I GOT ONE. I thought it'd take eons to get, but in master lost sectors, you can get double perks in either slot. So it wasn't too bad. What I've found in my master Witness attempts is that the strand subjugators are FAR more annoying than the other enemies around, and the suspend from them basically always killed at least one person.
But beyond just hating that left side subjugator with a passion, another big reason I went for the Marcato is that I plan on using it with my warlock, where I'll be running Euphony for damage on strand. So I can run three strand surges and get two for the price of one. And while I know that you recommended triple tap, I feel like being able to sever the subjugator and lower their damage output will be HUGE on master. Cause when they're putting out damn near one shots worth of damage, even a 15% decrease is significant for keeping you alive. Not to mention, I'll also get the benefits of strand loaders and whatnot that I was already going to use due to using Euphony.
I feel like I got very lucky getting my roll. I know it's not your number one pick, but I can craft commemoration, and I feel like the Marcato getting the extra 20% damage on the strand subjugator makes up for not having a damage perk. At this point, all i really need to do is get myself some kind of explosive payload shoot to loot weapon for the energy slot and I should be COOKING!
That's a well reasoned argument for slice and underover. It will perform well against the left subjugator for sure!
@@glacierrays thanks! At the end of the day, the most important thing in high level endgame pve is really to play your life. Most of the time, people augment that by either increasing their damage to kill faster, or increasing their resistance to be harder to put down. But there have also been multiple ways to reduce the damage output of enemies via weapons and abilities. So for me, I feel like having the ability to lower the damage output of specific enemies, even by a little, is just too much to pass up on. Yeah, I know there's fragments that can force sever, but since I'm getting sever from my heavy, I can pick a different fragment for more stats or longer durations and whatnot.
@@glacierrays just got my first master witness clear! Pulled my marcato mg on my hunter, and I was absolutely COOKING that left subjugator. Under over enhanced matching elements is hilarious good
interesting video. I have an underover/targetlock hammerhead I’ll have to give a try
Oh that's a great combo as well!
my teammates are gonna think it's a very late april fools joke when I show up with that thing and I'm all for it
That's what i'm here for haha. I feel like I have to preface some of my build suggestions with "look you're not gonna believe this but trust me..."
What about High Impact Reserves on Commemoration instead of firing line?
The damage buff is lower and it will only kick in on the bottom half, so the screech DR will have activated by then
Nice info. I look into Pro Memoria.
Unfortunately pro memoria doesn't have under-over, so it would only really benefit from avoiding the DR of the left side subjugator, and then a lower damage perk like target lock or bait and switch. By using one of the under-over or adaptive munitions LMGs I highlight in the video it will be significantly more damage
@@glacierrays that's very unfortunate. Besides commo. There are no other craftable ones with those perks. Am I right?
@@LRDZw13bL not crafted, no. the only other LMGs that can roll under-over are Avalanche, which is a Dawning weapon so not currently available, or Hammerhead, which can roll it alongside other damage perks. But that would require farming onslaught.
Adaptive munitions can roll on the trials LMG, and it's also on the old ritual weapon Chain Of Command, a stasis LMG, but that will only work on the strand subjugator because you want to not match elements for adaptive to work
@@glacierrays actually I kept some hammerheads in my vault. Have to check them later. It's very possible I have one
And farming onslaught is not that bad
Maybe Chain of Command? It can roll with adaptive and it's stasis
I didn't include that because with adaptive you don't want it to match the shield, so it would be redundant against the stasis subjugator. It does also have osmosis so you could match surge with that and get it off stasis but by then you might as well use the commemoration with double damage perks
Are they not getting rid of surges?
In normal mode surges are already gone, but in Master they're still there and rotate each week. They've been a part of master raids since they started
@@glacierrays Ah ok cool
Avalanche in itself is just a great lmg, hidden gem actually and if you didn’t play the event for the goated 3rd / 4th column perks, you missed out.
Yes in theory the most recent version of Avalanche can be good against these subjugators as it can roll under-over in 3rd column and target lock in 4th. But I highly doubt anyone kept that specific roll and it's not currently available which is why I didn't bother mentioning that. If you have any other perk combo then you're better off using the enhanced adaptive munitions and firing line commemoration I highlight in the video which will do significantly more damage
KT x3 is not that hard to keep going. Any reload bypass will keep the x3. Popular option including Hunter dodge. Other options are Warlock with icarus dash / rain of fire + any fragment that allows autoloading.
True that's a good point, but in these tests I was just looking at each LMGs functionality 'out of the box' rather than getting too far into specific buildcrafting restrictions. That would definitely work for me though as my hunter build for master witness already has marksmans dodge on
@glacierrays that's fair. I main rain of fire so it's my popular option for getting rid of the downsides to KT. Unwavering Duty with KT x3 + radiant + solar surge just melts.
@@OthersideSparrow interesting you mention Unwavering Duty because that's another 450rpm that can also roll adaptive munitions, I didn't include it in the video because it's even more annoying to farm than marcato, but the 70% buff would cook even harder than killing tally here
its not day 1 anymore theres no way your going to have 6 ish hunters... Even if there were imagine how shit the run will be when everyone gets on a non hunter lol....
What's the point here, that you don't want to use the best machinegun for subjugators against the subjugators? Of course you're free to not run hunters with celestial and still hunt but then you're almost definitely 3 phasing, which leads back to the same problem I highlight in the video: running out of rez tokens because of deaths at mechanics and dps which are easily done