I’ve worked for the railroad for 25 years now. I knew a conductor who looked and acted just like “Shack”, known as “Chucky.” They told us when we hired out this was one of the most realistic railroad movies out there. The hand signals they use in this clip are still in use today. The fireman gives “easy” signs and a “stop” sign, Shack gives a “come ahead” sign. This was back when men were men, and rails were tough as nails.
I had a great uncle who worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad. He was a fireman and worked his way up to engineer. It was around the time period this movie takes place. He's been dead for 40 years but I remember him. I don't remember him (or his sister who was my grandmother) telling me any stories of such violence by the conductors as in this movie. Perhaps it was the area. I know he used to work the New York City to Washington DC trains.
@@retroguy9494 It was realistic in the sense of how the railroad crew functioned and some of the operations. Shack was a realistic representation of a tough old head conductor who didn’t put up with any crap. Killing hoboes is the Hollywood part. Although Chucky supposedly took a knife from a would-be mugger one time and threatened to kick my butt for failing to sit in the seat he told me to sit in in the taxi that was taking us to our train. I had a lot of old head conductors yell at me in my early years of railroading, some for as trifling offenses as touching their paperwork.
@@azrailroader Okay I understand now. I, too, remember some of those old school head conductors when I worked in New York City when I got out of college in the late 1980's and rode the train. These guys back THEN had over 30 years with the railroad. They still wore the 3 piece railroad uniforms and some even still wore their pocket watches with the chain on their waistcoats. They were really nice to the passengers, especially their regulars, but you could also tell they really knew their stuff and didn't take any disorderly conduct. I remember one time I overslept a little and literally had to run after the train as it was already pulling out of the station. This old school conductor named George who knew me as a regular passenger on his train stood on the bottom step of the car and said "'c'mon you can make it" and literally grabbed my arm and pulled me up into the car. He then patted me on the back and said "you're alright kid; but next time don't call it so close!"
When I was an engineer/conductor for Conrail on the NEC, I let them ride in trailing units (consist) so they would have heat, water, and a restroom. I also gave them my lunch to eat. I had an uncle who was a hobo and often imagined finding him. But I never did, so I hope some railroader was nice to him also. I guess I hoped I was paying it forward.
If you drive up Row River Road east of Cottage Grove, Oregon, there's a house up there with one of the wooden livestock cars used in the movie in its backyard. You can see it from the road. No trucks underneath, just the car body sitting on the ground. Been up there all this time, and still looks to be in good condition.
There are many classics which the present generation seems to have forgotten but still some people around keep them and preserve for next generation in the hope they will cherish and value such contributions of film making in the getest of them all America
'Ol Shak is just downright psychotic & homicidal! Borgnine plays part to the hilt! Sadly, Ernest & Lee are both gone. We'll never see actors like them again.
One of the best railroad movies made, true to the industry. Only a few small errors that I don’t even recall now. Would watch again and have many times. Oh yes, for those that don’t know, the hog head, Malcolm Addebury (forgive the mis - spelling) came from a family where his father was President of the Pennsylvania Railroad.
I once had to take a MetroNorth train from NYC to White Plains. One ticketless passenger kept dodging the conductor, moving around and hiding in the bathroom. When I got off at my stop, I smiled at him to express my congratulations at him for avoiding the conductor.
I'm a train hopper from the '90s... I would watch this movie over and over.. I recorded a copy off AMC and carried it with me in my backpack everywhere. Finally lost it and I can't find it again
In those days when operating a coal trail was very had work, you worked in all kinds of weather, very hot in the summer and not hot enough in the winter. Rember you were basically out on the open tracks.
Glad to hear it. She sat virtually abandoned in the old Yreka Western shops in northern California for a lot of years. I used to make it a point to stop and visit her when traveling between Oregon and California.
As our society continues it's inexorable decline, something tells me we'll be seeing more trains like this in the future, if there are any trains running at all. Back to the future, baby!
Great railroading filming, but pretty horrible. And no, it wasn't exaggerated or fancified - this sort of brutality was actively encouraged by the railroad authorities back in the Depression and before. Study the songs of Woody Guthrie for more examples.
What cruelty overall he wanted to travel because he has no money and the death penalty because of an alleged illegal hitchhiker if if he had money just have to tell him if he can get off with great respect
The depression was a HORRIBLE time for SO many men. The hobos weren't bad people or criminals. They just wanted to look wherever they could hoping to find work. And if you had your job, your house, etc. taken from you and couldn't even afford to eat, how could you pay for passenger rail service? Of course, all this changed with FDR once he got government work programs like the CCC and the WPA up and running.
@@jamesage24 not really, I mean the fireman on the 19 is black. And normally in the depression era, it would have been an all white crew aboard the train. So technically, this is one of the first films to have diversity in a film that takes place during the depression.
I would like to see a version where all the bell crossing sound effects are edited out. More often than not where the effect is used there isn't a crossing to be seen. Also 1930's rural Oregon what crossings there were would most likely have been low volume, dirt crossings.
@MrJuvefrank maybe that's cause I just now came across this video. You should be grateful people are commenting on your posts at all. No matter how far in time
I love the scene where shack hits that “bo” on the back of the head with that hammer. I love the sickening thud, then seeing the food fly out of his mouth,and watching him fall onto the tracks. I love the look of delight on shacks face ❤️
I’ve worked for the railroad for 25 years now. I knew a conductor who looked and acted just like “Shack”, known as “Chucky.” They told us when we hired out this was one of the most realistic railroad movies out there. The hand signals they use in this clip are still in use today. The fireman gives “easy” signs and a “stop” sign, Shack gives a “come ahead” sign. This was back when men were men, and rails were tough as nails.
I had a great uncle who worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad. He was a fireman and worked his way up to engineer. It was around the time period this movie takes place. He's been dead for 40 years but I remember him. I don't remember him (or his sister who was my grandmother) telling me any stories of such violence by the conductors as in this movie. Perhaps it was the area. I know he used to work the New York City to Washington DC trains.
@@retroguy9494 It was realistic in the sense of how the railroad crew functioned and some of the operations. Shack was a realistic representation of a tough old head conductor who didn’t put up with any crap. Killing hoboes is the Hollywood part. Although Chucky supposedly took a knife from a would-be mugger one time and threatened to kick my butt for failing to sit in the seat he told me to sit in in the taxi that was taking us to our train. I had a lot of old head conductors yell at me in my early years of railroading, some for as trifling offenses as touching their paperwork.
@@azrailroader Okay I understand now. I, too, remember some of those old school head conductors when I worked in New York City when I got out of college in the late 1980's and rode the train. These guys back THEN had over 30 years with the railroad. They still wore the 3 piece railroad uniforms and some even still wore their pocket watches with the chain on their waistcoats. They were really nice to the passengers, especially their regulars, but you could also tell they really knew their stuff and didn't take any disorderly conduct.
I remember one time I overslept a little and literally had to run after the train as it was already pulling out of the station. This old school conductor named George who knew me as a regular passenger on his train stood on the bottom step of the car and said "'c'mon you can make it" and literally grabbed my arm and pulled me up into the car. He then patted me on the back and said "you're alright kid; but next time don't call it so close!"
Ah the good ol days. When u could kill a man for taking a free ride on a train. God I miss those days.
@@Boudica234 hahahaha
When I was an engineer/conductor for Conrail on the NEC, I let them ride in trailing units (consist) so they would have heat, water, and a restroom. I also gave them my lunch to eat. I had an uncle who was a hobo and often imagined finding him. But I never did, so I hope some railroader was nice to him also. I guess I hoped I was paying it forward.
The actor who played the hobo that was killed by Ernest Borgnine's character was my Junior High School vice principal back in 1973.
What's his name? Is he on IMDB anywhere?
that's awesome. poor dude was just eating a sandwich
How much did they pay him to get cut in half for the movie?
Super beautiful film great actors and fantastic music❤
If you drive up Row River Road east of Cottage Grove, Oregon, there's a house up there with one of the wooden livestock cars used in the movie in its backyard. You can see it from the road. No trucks underneath, just the car body sitting on the ground. Been up there all this time, and still looks to be in good condition.
Better just to walk than to try and steal a ride on Shack's train....
There are many classics which the present generation seems to have forgotten but still some people around keep them and preserve for next generation in the hope they will cherish and value such contributions of film making in the getest of them all America
The thing that I love about this scene is that they play it RIGHT before the happy go lucky music and intro kick in. Love it.
'Ol Shak is just downright psychotic & homicidal! Borgnine plays part to the hilt! Sadly, Ernest & Lee are both gone. We'll never see actors like them again.
I grew up on those tracks running around on them as a kid. Everything in this movie looks the same as it did back then love this movie 🎥
Where is the water tower located?
As a child i wanted to live in a place like this
Bastard did ent need to kill the poor man, did not watch the entire movie …
One of the best railroad movies made, true to the industry. Only a few small errors that I don’t even recall now. Would watch again and have many times. Oh yes, for those that don’t know, the hog head, Malcolm Addebury (forgive the mis - spelling) came from a family where his father was President of the Pennsylvania Railroad.
I once had to take a MetroNorth train from NYC to White Plains.
One ticketless passenger kept dodging the conductor, moving around and hiding in the bathroom.
When I got off at my stop, I smiled at him to express my congratulations at him for avoiding the conductor.
I'm a train hopper from the '90s...
I would watch this movie over and over.. I recorded a copy off AMC and carried it with me in my backpack everywhere. Finally lost it and I can't find it again
That happened to me once in Oregon..the docs there were able to sew me back together though,,still have the scar : o
Ernest Borgnine also played mermaid man in spongebob
The title killed this movie.
In those days when operating a coal trail was very had work, you worked in all kinds of weather, very hot in the summer and not hot enough in the winter. Rember you were basically out on the open tracks.
That movie star of a locomotive is months maybe even weeks from being operational again
Can't wait to see it. Age of Steam roundhouse!!!
Great!
Glad to hear it. She sat virtually abandoned in the old Yreka Western shops in northern California for a lot of years. I used to make it a point to stop and visit her when traveling between Oregon and California.
Will be done by next winter
As our society continues it's inexorable decline, something tells me we'll be seeing more trains like this in the future, if there are any trains running at all. Back to the future, baby!
Who out there knows that Ernest Borgnine got his start at Barter Theatre in Abingdon, Virginia?
Great railroad film! I own two copies on recorded DVDS and a professional version I purchased at a train museum!
what does the profession version do differently? Like a theater version?
He just learned a very hard lesson that there are no free rides especially with the shack on the case
I don't think he learned anything as I believe he died under the wheels of the freight cars. I don't see why Shack couldn't have just thrown him off?
Obra de arte es está película tiene q estar entre las mil películas del siglo
Fatso in From Here to Eternaty and Shack are among Borgnine's best roles. He just sweats mean.
And don’t forget him in an early role as the mean-spirited Lyle on Bad Day At Black Rock.
Definitely not a nice guy like Lt. Commander Quinton McHale....
It's Maxwell's silver hammer
I remember the title as "Emperor of the, North Pole."
Hmmm.
There ain't another Lee Marvin and there ain't another Ernest borgnine so forget your dreams.
A really cool movie.
Wow I last saw this movie on a black and white tv. I do not remember the body on the tracks! Sire that was edited out!
Couldnt have been, I saw this scene as a kid in the 90s, burned the image in my head, I never knew what the movie was called till a few years ago.
@@doct0rnic I saw this on VHS rental in the mid 80's, sure my childish mind edited that bit out.
@@brittoverbaugh4035 please stop yelling
Great railroading filming, but pretty horrible. And no, it wasn't exaggerated or fancified - this sort of brutality was actively encouraged by the railroad authorities back in the Depression and before. Study the songs of Woody Guthrie for more examples.
What cruelty overall he wanted to travel because he has no money and the death penalty because of an alleged illegal hitchhiker if if he had money just have to tell him if he can get off with great respect
The depression was a HORRIBLE time for SO many men. The hobos weren't bad people or criminals. They just wanted to look wherever they could hoping to find work. And if you had your job, your house, etc. taken from you and couldn't even afford to eat, how could you pay for passenger rail service? Of course, all this changed with FDR once he got government work programs like the CCC and the WPA up and running.
3:46 best part
2:46 for me
It's a shame that this movie is not on Disney Plus.
Too many straight white men to be considered for Disney+. 😁
@@jamesage24 not really, I mean the fireman on the 19 is black. And normally in the depression era, it would have been an all white crew aboard the train. So technically, this is one of the first films to have diversity in a film that takes place during the depression.
@@ishirotanaka exactly and op needs to just shut up no one cares that your a right wing jerk
Great train movie
I would like to see a version where all the bell crossing sound effects are edited out. More often than not where the effect is used there isn't a crossing to be seen. Also 1930's rural Oregon what crossings there were would most likely have been low volume, dirt crossings.
1:18 W.B. conductor, plays an EVIL-hearted devil. 😤😖😣
Now Shack knows what it's like to be dead.
Shack eventually got the karma he had coming to him.
@@fanmaxis3004 I'm glad to see you commented on a sentence I wrote at least 2 years ago.
@MrJuvefrank maybe that's cause I just now came across this video. You should be grateful people are commenting on your posts at all. No matter how far in time
@@fanmaxis3004 I thought being glad was just as nice as being grateful. If you say grateful in a nicer word, then I'm grateful.
Next time that hobo will buy a ticket or else walk.
Assuming there was anything left of him.
Why only two parts?
Peninha,bao tem legenda em português do Brasil ou em espanhol
I love the scene where shack hits that “bo” on the back of the head with that hammer. I love the sickening thud, then seeing the food fly out of his mouth,and watching him fall onto the tracks. I love the look of delight on shacks face ❤️
Into violence against your fellow man there bruh?
You need professional help.