I discovered this podcast about a month ago and it has now become my default "I want to listen to something while I do this thing, so I'll listen to this" outlet
What happens when there is that hole created in the ship is that there are emergency forcefields that activate. Eventually, there are emergency bulkheads that come down and seal off those sections. Now, when worf says that Shields are down, that's not the same thing as forcefields. The shields is actually a defensive electromagnetic field encapsulates the ship to prevent the enemy's weapons from hitting it.
Warp scale is logarithmic and warp 10 is infinite velocity. It starts to get ridiculous in the upper range of warp 9.x when a tiny decimal increase is 100-1000x faster. General rule of thumb, warp is as fast as the plot requires.
They have inertial dampeners. These prevent people from turning into spaghetti sauce every time the ship moves. When they are hit by weapons, the inertial dampeners fluctuate in function and this is why the ship shakes the people inside.
With a borg cube I would think is that the Borg are just simple. Simple plutonic shapes like cubes and spheres. There is no air in space, so there's no need to be aerodynamic.
Interestingly, instead of greebled, I thought you were going to say "kit bashed". The scenes where they show the borg cube repairing, they melted the model, and played it in reverse. (So, interestingly we can never see this exact cube again.)
Those Q pop-ups while the scene plays are excellent. I legit do not understand how anyone can say this with a straight face, but in StarTrek groups I am a member of, there are people who will unironically argue that this episode is proof that the Q are afraid of the Borg and worried that they will assimilate the Q. I think this people are high AF, because that makes no sense to me, as Q are basically god-like entities. I think this episode, and the following Q episode really do the best job at laying down and fleshing out Q as an antagonist/antihero to the show like this finally feels like what I expect out of a Q episode. EI: He is a trixster god, gives them knowledge as much as he messes with them, and let's them wander themselves into the trap and hints at how they can get out, not out-right malicious, but a callus teacher.
Any attempt to map a series arc onto Q doesn't work; it's pure fan fiction. Q rapidly shifts who or what he is from episode to episode without any consistent writers' aim behind it. This show couldn't even afford Data such an arc given its for-syndication production. The only characters with development over the series are Worf and Wesley Crusher, and those almost seem like miniseries sneaked into the corners of the show.
@@MegaZeta well I wasn't arguing he had any series arc and I would argue data did have a series arc, but this isn't the comment that would start that Convo, so I guess agree to dissaagree
I know I'm really late to the party, but so excited loving it so far. And would love for you to continue playing it by air date. I had that thought when you guys mentioned a few episodes ago how to play this with what comes next
The explanation for why they can spin and stop quickly without being flattened against the walls is because the ship has inertial dampeners. It's also why they can suddenly accelerate and decelerate to/from various warps without the interior of the ship being affected. In classic star trek fashion though, this is contradicted whenever they're in combat, as big impacts will often throw them off balance, even though the exterior of the ship is shown to be static when hit.
I think the inertial dampeners are supposed to be sort of "flickering" the way lights do sometimes when they take a hit, but it DOES seem pretty precarious to have that happen so often in battle. Ultimately, they just needed some visual indicator that the ship took a hit during a bridge shot.
In universe answer to movement for hits vs ship propulsion is the inertial dampeners are connected to the computers. So going to warp 9, the dampeners are increased as needed to counter the momentum. However, when the ship is hit, the computer/dampeners cannot react fast enough to mitigate all the motion, just some.
Enterprise is my personal favorite series other than TNG, so I am really excited for you guys to get to that one (minus the series finale of course). I really wish they were able to flesh everything out more without being labeled the "Star Trek killer"
It's not that they'll run out of fuel. It's that the engines can only run for so long at high warp. That's why you start to see ships with 4 nacelles. It's not for going fasted. It's for running longer without breaks.
The point of Picard and company not running like hell, is supposed to demonstrate how arrogant UFP/Starfleet is. That they don't understand the danger they are in and that was Q's lesson.
The Borg do assimilate other intelligent beings besides humans, but I think they are only really shown in future TV series and movies. They will eventually show Klingon and Romulan Borg. Overall, the Borg are Star Trek's big baddie, making comebacks over and over.
The interchange between Q and Guinan, I wish that John Delaney's book "I.Q." was cannon, and that the race he came up with called the "M" were what Guinan turned out to be. That's still my personal head cannon.
A couple of things to point out... Knowing what we know of the Borg, if they went ham on the phasers from moment one... they wouldn't have gotten anywhere. Borg Cubes are combat operational up to 75% destroyed, let alone how quickly they adapt to weapons fire and constantly repair. I would love the Star Trek Gag Show where they teleport people asleep in their quarters into the holodeck. Like, make it exactly the same as reality but change just one significant thing to really mess with their head... like their mothers name... All the joking about Wesley... I mean, hate him all you will but it takes something close to charisma to incite a mutiny. He also took over the ship with technical know-how while drunk. The kid might be annoying, but he's also McGuyver in this universe. You want him somewhere close by when something goes down.
Rick Berman was against the idea of serialized storytelling. They wanted you to be able to pick up any random episode and know what's going on with out having to have seen a bunch of episodes leading up to it.
Virtually every decision Gene Roddenberry made was either thinking, show Humanity has grown and can grow or, make this show constantly consistently and perpetually make money. The reason he didn't like continuity is, he thought it would hurt the bottom line.
In this first appearance, it wasn't obvious to fans whether the Borg were their own race or whether they assimilated other species. There is no evidence of assimilation in their first appearance and Q says they're only interested in other people's technology, not their people. It isn't until Picard is assimilated in Best of Both Worlds that fans have any inkling that the Borg assimilate species, not just technology
Enterprise had rhe nx-01 anf the show was better than voyager. It had a somber ending that people hated bc someone dies thst didnt need to for the story. The NX-01 appears in some battle scenes in ds9
Fun theory. Given that we never see newely Mexicans or South Americans in Star Trek and knowing that there was a massive genocidal and nuclear war before humanity finally got it together I have the theory that Q is trolling and that the last great genocide on earth was done on the Spanish speaking population. Sort of a “tell it to the dead” moment. Considering the theme of Q is whether or not humanity has evolved and grown out of their barbaric past I think this is a good one.
1:08:32 Thats exactly what it is!! Its model holders from crafting. Like airplane models. The just layer thme up. Attach empty parts together. Some of the them are guns/rifles.
Hard disagree about Star Wars getting better after George Lucas Sure Ep4 was saved in the edit by his wife and Ep5 & Ep6 were directed by different people. But Ep3 is the best Star Wars movie by far and to be honest I'd rather watch AOTC over any of the Disney Star Wars films
The maturation chamber also bothers me... cause the Borg aren't born, they only assimilate. So the only take away from the maturation chamber is that the planet they just assimilated had human looking babies that they decided to take with them. We never see maturation chambers again, and the concept of Borg fucking only comes around in First Contact... and that's just ONE Borg.
hidden fortress is about an evil force that builds a giant fortress that will be able to wage war and two footsoldiers who get lost, follow a hero who rescues a princess and they defeat the death sta- I mean hidden fortress@@swfcocs1
This one was a tough listen. Im here for the bants obviously, but this one went overboard. I'm never gonna say you guys should talk about Star Trek, but when we're on our 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th callbacks to the same joke, it's abrassive.
What would a fight between Q and Guinan look like?
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I discovered this podcast about a month ago and it has now become my default "I want to listen to something while I do this thing, so I'll listen to this" outlet
Ah, yes. The episode where we learn that Guinan is a a Khajiit. A personal favorite of mine. Any episode gets bonus points for having Guinan in it.
What happens when there is that hole created in the ship is that there are emergency forcefields that activate. Eventually, there are emergency bulkheads that come down and seal off those sections. Now, when worf says that Shields are down, that's not the same thing as forcefields. The shields is actually a defensive electromagnetic field encapsulates the ship to prevent the enemy's weapons from hitting it.
Warp scale is logarithmic and warp 10 is infinite velocity. It starts to get ridiculous in the upper range of warp 9.x when a tiny decimal increase is 100-1000x faster.
General rule of thumb, warp is as fast as the plot requires.
They have inertial dampeners. These prevent people from turning into spaghetti sauce every time the ship moves. When they are hit by weapons, the inertial dampeners fluctuate in function and this is why the ship shakes the people inside.
I dont know why, but Dan's deadpan "ah a ghost" after Denise's video was the funniest god dammed thing. I had to stop the video I was laughing so hard
With a borg cube I would think is that the Borg are just simple. Simple plutonic shapes like cubes and spheres. There is no air in space, so there's no need to be aerodynamic.
Interestingly, instead of greebled, I thought you were going to say "kit bashed".
The scenes where they show the borg cube repairing, they melted the model, and played it in reverse. (So, interestingly we can never see this exact cube again.)
Oh that's super neat!
Those Q pop-ups while the scene plays are excellent.
I legit do not understand how anyone can say this with a straight face, but in StarTrek groups I am a member of, there are people who will unironically argue that this episode is proof that the Q are afraid of the Borg and worried that they will assimilate the Q.
I think this people are high AF, because that makes no sense to me, as Q are basically god-like entities.
I think this episode, and the following Q episode really do the best job at laying down and fleshing out Q as an antagonist/antihero to the show like this finally feels like what I expect out of a Q episode.
EI: He is a trixster god, gives them knowledge as much as he messes with them, and let's them wander themselves into the trap and hints at how they can get out, not out-right malicious, but a callus teacher.
I always read it as, Q isn't afraid of the Borg, Q is afraid the Borg will make the universe boring to observe and mess with.
@@BoblopZmuda that's fair
Any attempt to map a series arc onto Q doesn't work; it's pure fan fiction. Q rapidly shifts who or what he is from episode to episode without any consistent writers' aim behind it. This show couldn't even afford Data such an arc given its for-syndication production. The only characters with development over the series are Worf and Wesley Crusher, and those almost seem like miniseries sneaked into the corners of the show.
@@MegaZeta well I wasn't arguing he had any series arc and I would argue data did have a series arc, but this isn't the comment that would start that Convo, so I guess agree to dissaagree
@@MegaZetaI think they're saying that this is where the writers figured out how to write Q properly
we don't have time for you today Q we gotta space Über again.
I know I'm really late to the party, but so excited loving it so far. And would love for you to continue playing it by air date. I had that thought when you guys mentioned a few episodes ago how to play this with what comes next
That's the plan!
The explanation for why they can spin and stop quickly without being flattened against the walls is because the ship has inertial dampeners. It's also why they can suddenly accelerate and decelerate to/from various warps without the interior of the ship being affected. In classic star trek fashion though, this is contradicted whenever they're in combat, as big impacts will often throw them off balance, even though the exterior of the ship is shown to be static when hit.
I think the inertial dampeners are supposed to be sort of "flickering" the way lights do sometimes when they take a hit, but it DOES seem pretty precarious to have that happen so often in battle. Ultimately, they just needed some visual indicator that the ship took a hit during a bridge shot.
In universe answer to movement for hits vs ship propulsion is the inertial dampeners are connected to the computers. So going to warp 9, the dampeners are increased as needed to counter the momentum. However, when the ship is hit, the computer/dampeners cannot react fast enough to mitigate all the motion, just some.
1:14:50 you all are hilarious, you reference your referencing with referencing your references. This series is great.
Enterprise is my personal favorite series other than TNG, so I am really excited for you guys to get to that one (minus the series finale of course). I really wish they were able to flesh everything out more without being labeled the "Star Trek killer"
It's not that they'll run out of fuel. It's that the engines can only run for so long at high warp. That's why you start to see ships with 4 nacelles. It's not for going fasted. It's for running longer without breaks.
Dilithium is a catalyst/reaction site/ used to contain the mater/anti-mater reaction.
What if he showed up with a mariachi band?
The point of Picard and company not running like hell, is supposed to demonstrate how arrogant UFP/Starfleet is. That they don't understand the danger they are in and that was Q's lesson.
Just in time for the lunch.
Every minute you spend on the phone with a scammer is a minute they aren't scamming some other person.
The Borg do assimilate other intelligent beings besides humans, but I think they are only really shown in future TV series and movies. They will eventually show Klingon and Romulan Borg. Overall, the Borg are Star Trek's big baddie, making comebacks over and over.
51:00 They can run out of anti-matter or dilithium, and they use them up faster when travelling at higher warp factors.
When you get calls from spam just scream like you're being murdered that'll scare them and they will never call again
The Borg are half machine, half biological life forms. Kind of like a... cyBORG
Sonya Gomez shows up as a captain in the series lower decks :)
Ensign Sonya Gomez was a potential love interest for Geordi, however writers strike ended that
I always found it weird that she showed up only in this episode and then never again.
The interchange between Q and Guinan, I wish that John Delaney's book "I.Q." was cannon, and that the race he came up with called the "M" were what Guinan turned out to be. That's still my personal head cannon.
Actually her species is called the "L" or "E.N."
@@silkwesir1444 hahaha actually you could just say "L" or "N" xD. Nicely done
10:45 I'm having borst today. Looking forward to it.
I found your podcast from RUclips Shorts, now I'm subscribed and bingeing. Looking forward to ds9 and commentary tracks for the movies
A couple of things to point out...
Knowing what we know of the Borg, if they went ham on the phasers from moment one... they wouldn't have gotten anywhere. Borg Cubes are combat operational up to 75% destroyed, let alone how quickly they adapt to weapons fire and constantly repair.
I would love the Star Trek Gag Show where they teleport people asleep in their quarters into the holodeck. Like, make it exactly the same as reality but change just one significant thing to really mess with their head... like their mothers name...
All the joking about Wesley... I mean, hate him all you will but it takes something close to charisma to incite a mutiny. He also took over the ship with technical know-how while drunk. The kid might be annoying, but he's also McGuyver in this universe. You want him somewhere close by when something goes down.
1:15:10
Fun fact, they made that episode: Season 6 episode 12: Ship in a Bottle.
They had to write and film like 26 EPS a season. Now they do 8 or 10 with 4 times the budget.
Rick Berman was against the idea of serialized storytelling. They wanted you to be able to pick up any random episode and know what's going on with out having to have seen a bunch of episodes leading up to it.
I love how innocently they forget the characters names it's funny
Drunk guy in ten forward calls the bridge
They can't get drunk though. They drink fake alcohol that does not make you drunk.
The inertial dampeners are tied into the brake pedal.
30:42
Yup ... pretty much. 😆
im going to end up catching up to your current videos im binging Hard
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, when you meant The Truman Show. Jim Carrey vehicles.
Virtually every decision Gene Roddenberry made was either thinking, show Humanity has grown and can grow or, make this show constantly consistently and perpetually make money. The reason he didn't like continuity is, he thought it would hurt the bottom line.
Mike Tyson was the original inspiration for the Fast & Furious movies
Star Wars is just the next galaxy over?
Gene roddenberry was really a strange sort of fellow.
In this first appearance, it wasn't obvious to fans whether the Borg were their own race or whether they assimilated other species. There is no evidence of assimilation in their first appearance and Q says they're only interested in other people's technology, not their people.
It isn't until Picard is assimilated in Best of Both Worlds that fans have any inkling that the Borg assimilate species, not just technology
What does a yellow light mean?
Wesley missed hid daddy he freaks out when he's missing riker is like chill out your sugar daddy will be back soon
But Gomezes is in another episode.
The seasons Three and Four of STE are actually brilliant. Apart from the series' finale, o.c.
Viacom and black rock?
Enterprise had rhe nx-01 anf the show was better than voyager. It had a somber ending that people hated bc someone dies thst didnt need to for the story. The NX-01 appears in some battle scenes in ds9
Gomez was supposedto be a love interest for LaForge
Fun theory.
Given that we never see newely Mexicans or South Americans in Star Trek and knowing that there was a massive genocidal and nuclear war before humanity finally got it together I have the theory that Q is trolling and that the last great genocide on earth was done on the Spanish speaking population.
Sort of a “tell it to the dead” moment.
Considering the theme of Q is whether or not humanity has evolved and grown out of their barbaric past I think this is a good one.
Gomez is in lower decks as a captain
1:08:32
Thats exactly what it is!!
Its model holders from crafting. Like airplane models.
The just layer thme up. Attach empty parts together. Some of the them are guns/rifles.
Love you guys, but you get the warp scale so wrong all the time lol. A simple Google will give you the warp scale and meanings.
Hard disagree about Star Wars getting better after George Lucas
Sure Ep4 was saved in the edit by his wife and Ep5 & Ep6 were directed by different people.
But Ep3 is the best Star Wars movie by far and to be honest I'd rather watch AOTC over any of the Disney Star Wars films
There's a borg sphere
The maturation chamber also bothers me... cause the Borg aren't born, they only assimilate. So the only take away from the maturation chamber is that the planet they just assimilated had human looking babies that they decided to take with them. We never see maturation chambers again, and the concept of Borg fucking only comes around in First Contact... and that's just ONE Borg.
The borg gobble up kids too. But without cobalt mines the borg have no use for kids. So they grow em in the baby microwave
Maturation chambers are indeed for accelerating the growth of assimilated children into adult drones. They show up again in Voyager.
The SW wipes are because it was a rip off of Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress
Yep, C3PO and R2D2 are based on the two narrator beggar types
hidden fortress is about an evil force that builds a giant fortress that will be able to wage war and two footsoldiers who get lost, follow a hero who rescues a princess and they defeat the death sta- I mean hidden fortress@@swfcocs1
Do you guys think Star Wars got better when George Lucas sold to Disney?
This one was a tough listen.
Im here for the bants obviously, but this one went overboard. I'm never gonna say you guys should talk about Star Trek, but when we're on our 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th callbacks to the same joke, it's abrassive.
I just skipped forward about 20 episodes and I'm so sad you never got the weed sponsorship.
Mariachi outfit is coming up lol SPOILERS
God, you guys with these ratings verses some of the eppisodes in season 1, yeesh
Starwars is not doing so hot. I think a back seat yes completely gone no. Imo
Disney already owns Star Trek. It's called Orville...
Internationally mispronouncing names reminds me of someone I game with, they also think that it is peak comedy.
Trust me, I've known Ricardo long enough to know it's not intentional, lol. He does this with street names and restaurants
@@NewbieStarTreklol that must be entertaining at times XD
@@ScotSteam47 heart attack
Q is just talking nonsense when he's using Spanish, he's making a joke, it has nothing to do with alluding to the Borg, that commentary was moronic.