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I think the question you need to ask is: What terrain do I NOT want to ride on. If you can live without descending over roots, and rocks then get a gravel bike. If you can live without ever leaving the asphalt, or if you want to race road then get a road bike. If you're riding for fun and not doing single track get a gravel bike. I think as long as you're not racing road then there is no reason to choose a road bike over a gravel bike. The mountain bike will handle terrain that is just so much more extreme than the gravel or road bike, but that is at the price of being not fun on asphalt. Also, if you only are buying one bike, do not get a single front chain ring bike - the gearing range is just too limited.
Single ring isn't' as limiting as you think it is. Its the jumps that are more pronounced. You gain simplicity and loose overlapping gears, at the cost of big jumps and a little bit of top end range.
Fran Rod Sure, but it doesn't have drop bars. That's the thing, to do asphalt and mud/roots/jumps there will always have to be some kind of compromise.
Smale Rider Exactly. So, there is a trade off. Personally I'll take the tiny bit of extra complexity for the giant gain in gear flexibility and the benefit of being able to hit the right cadence.
Surely gravel bikes give best of both worlds. Put road tires on when you want to go fast and then wider knobbly tires for when you want to tackle more tricky terrain. If you're doing anything on the extremes of this you'll either get a road bike or mountain bike...
One of the things I didnt hear you mention is upgrading/changing components. Eg you can put road gearings on the gravel bike by changing cassettes and drive rings.
I have 3 bikes. 2 MTB and a road one. Road bike I use for training and commuting, but now I start to afraid of roads... Dangerous 1 MTB is a full suspension trail bike and it requires maintenance. The other MTB is a cheep one hard tail and I use it for commuting and mud conditions. Almost no maintenance, only chain lubricate. I think I'll buy a gravel bike instead of road and a hard tail, but 2x11, not 1x11. Full suspension one is for singles.
The answer is very simple, get all three bikes shown here and a fat bike, a proper cummuter bike with racks and fenders, a single speed and keep on adding bikes as you see fit. Remember N+1.
I have all 3. The road bike gets the most saddle time. I like to do longer rides (30m +) and the road bike, is slightly less comfortable, but substantially faster over the longer distances. I got a titanium road frame recently and the comfort level increased dramatically.
I am use the 2 of the 3, road bike and I trekking...the set up of the road is common but at trekking I change the fork with out suspension, so I earn 2.30 kilos and the tires to 35 from 45, so I can use it at all terrains with more flexible gear set up, 3x8...can u five me I good reason to by a gravel bike...I am asking from u how r expert on bikes cause the only I can untersund is a new category for spending money...thank u
I go for mtb even on road ... More comportable .... The gearing is so friendly ... And it has the right handle bar easy to manage ... Buy MTB first very handy
I agree with everything you said! To this I would add that I have all three and ride the gravel bike more than 80% of the time. As they say, your mileage may vary!!
I think that is actually a gravel bike. I don't know any cross bikes that do that 700c to 650b tire trick. There is about a dozen or so bike that do that, and they are marketed and sold as gravel bikes.
Smale Rider the bike I'm referring to is the Nashbar Cyclocross Frame + Carbon fork. The frame can fit a 27.5x2 inch whereas the fork can run 1.75 but I'm getting a fork that can take 2.1 tires
A Gravel bike that can take 650b and 700 wheelsets. YOu can go on trails just just can't bomb down rut laiden trails with jumps and drops. If you don't plan on real technical stuff a carbon gravel bike with a good tire clearance would be very diverse and fun!
I wanna buy the Specialized Allez with 700x25 wheels. It can't take 28 tyres i believe. I love road bikes and i wanna use it for training,brevets and races. I care for speed and comfort. But the roads of my country are gruesome. Full of potholes and we are talking about big ones. Some cover the whole street. Will it ruin the experience for me or will i be fine with the right PSI? Anyone has the same problem?
depends on how good your Roads are around me they are almost dirt lots of potholes and bumps. I love my gravel bike. it was a no Brainer choice for me. first thing I did was change the chainring and cassette to make it more climbing friendly.
The mountain bike with full suspension is very comfortable for the city if you change the seat and bars. Riding sidewalks and crossing driveways , curb transitions, potholes, are a lot easier when you have suspension to take out the jolts and bumps. The chain ring needs a bigger final drive on the front say a 48t. But those few changes in my opinion creates a better riding comfortable bike for the city than a stock mtb or gravel bike or road bike. I'm not sure what you would name such a bike but I think it would offer almost all the benefits of the three in one package. Plus it's very rugged.
What's the deal with the aero bars on the Gravel Bike? Wouldn't a 2x drivetrain on the gravel bike be better? IMO the Breezer Radar Expert is THE Entry level gravel bike to get. It has a 'BULLETPROOF TANK' CRMO double butted Steel Frame AND fork, #5 WB mounts, F/R rack/fender mounts, tire clearance up to 700c x 2.1" (54mm) and a 2x9 Sora/Deore RD drivetrain (32/48t Crank: 11-36t Cassette) and Hydraulic Disc brakes activated by regular brake cables. It's about 1+ kilo (2-3 lbs) heavier than an aluminum frame with carbon fork though but not a big deal. $900-$1000 for this bike is a GREAT DEAL!!! Steel is Real Baby!!!
Haha, I would say Toyota Corolla is like gravel bike, it'll take you anywhere, but will get stuck in only the extreme. MTB is like Toyota Hilux. It will get you everywhere, no questions asked.
If it has to be just one bike to cover all disciplines, then it should be the one in the middle, so the gravel bike. Or better still, a good quality cyclocross bike, with a couple of sets of wheels / tyres for road and off- road
Not nescessary. It's really hard to tell the difference except for tires and gear ratio. For example specialized crux or merida cx have significant slope and have no problems with carrying. BB drop on crux is 69mm, that common for gravel. HA on almost every gravel and cx is between 71-72 for medium sizes, the same for chainstay lenght and wheelbase.
You're comparing nothing to nothing. Comparing two cross bikes with each other from different brands gives absolutely no picture at all. A comparison must be made within each brands cross vs gravel. Finally Crux a is a terrible example, back pre-mainstream gravel biking people used CX bikes. Many people were using and being successful on specifically the Crux. With rider feedback from all these races Specialized adapted gravel bike features on the Crux. A proper gravel bike is like a endurance road bike, a CX bike is more like a road race bike. Niner RLT RDO(gravel) 47 vs Niner BSB RDO(cross) 47 Chainstay 430 vs 425 BB 75 vs 68 HT 70 vs 70.5 wheelbase 1000 vs 993
If you don't know what to focus on and you only can buy 1 bike, buy a mtb it can do both for sure. A gravel can do road fairly well but no way can handle the trails. Obviously road cannot handle trails.
If you can only afford one, everyone must own at least a mountain bike. It's the gold standard AK-47 of transportation. Second for commute or training is a pure road bike. Get all the racks or panniers for the MTB and only a tiny toolbag for the road bike. If you must have a third, then get a folding bike and carry it in the trunk of your car. Set up a simple bikepacking kit for the MTB and you are all ready for the zombies. Remember the Vietnam war... strong bike and offroad kit > 20th century airpower and unforgiving terrain.
i ride for fun.. i ride street , offroad , love trials and stunts, i go for long rides.. but im messed up.. i do long rides and offroading on my 4x bike.. and ride street on my bmx .i do trials on another 4x bike.. planning on getting a trials bike. im not good at any dicipline. but enjoy all of it.
Hi, I'm looking to buy an adventure bike for long distance touring plus occasional terrain& road cycling. Have you got any views on Norco search s1 2015 (105)/Pinnacle Arkose 3 (105 ,with ultergra crank, Acor hydraulic clippers) / trek Crockett 5 / Orro Terra 2016/ Giant revolt 1 / specialized Awol(too heavy??) and specialized CruX/ diverge. Thanks a lot. Btw, all your videos are aawweeesssooommmeee!!!! Cheers.
How about Gravel bike vs Cyclocross? for commuter/fitness/bike i wanna take everywhere and beat it up (lol) I had a cannondale carbon synapse 105 about a year ago, doing 90% road/hills, and some gravel, but i like the gravel more. I stopped for a bit and sold the bike. Now i'm looking at the Giant TCX SLR 2, Jamis Renegade Expat, & Niner RLT 9 1 Star. All have pretty good components for the price, and 1200$ is the max I',m willing to go this time (The synapse cost a lot more and took a while to pay off) I'll be doing similarly 80% paved roads/paved bike paths/hills, but I want to take it offroad whenever I want. I'm unsure about a cyclocross vs a gravel grinder. I know there's differences, but from what I've heard it's not much. The synapse was an endurance geometry and I loved it. It never really hurt my back. But then again, I could also just raise the stem and get spacers if the bike I choose has a more aggressive geo, right? any opinions are appreciated. Thanks! 🙂
Greetings from Portugal, Shai! which is the gearing used on that gravel bike? i have an old fram that i want to use on comuting, but i dont want to turn it into a fixie. can you shed some light? thanks.
In case of having TWO bikes, I would go for MTB and ROAD..... in case of only ONE bike, I would go for ......29" ;-) ....Gravel only as FOURTH bike in collection
@@jeromefritz8926 a mountainbike does give you more options of where you can ride but a gravel bike is a lot more fun on tarmac and other smooth surfaces. I have one xc MTB and a gravel bike but I'm going to change the tires to road ones soon. Then it's almost a normal road bike.
@@Sidowse many people don't mind the wider steps between gear with a 1x system. Some riders simply don't need the range that a 2x system provides so 1x is fine for them. And when using dropper posts it really is great to free up the space below the handlebar on one side to fit a dropper lever. But I'm glad Shimano still offers 2x systems for their new MTB drivetrains (unlike SRAM), because obviously 1x isn't for everyone. I still think XC Bikes are pretty much the most versatile bikes. Gravel bikes with a bit of front suspension are another contender for that spot though. (Basically XC bikes with drop bars and skinnier tires)
Hi,I have recently joined ur channel. I have a question regarding the gearing on gravel bike shown here. Wouldn't it be better to have a triple crank on the so called gravel bike to increase it's versatility(by which I mean do anything bike.. of course not on competition level but for a cycle enthusiasts ), because as it is that the bike can be fitted with 700×35c tyres. There comes a model with those specifications called Lombard from marin ,I wonder why haven't they included the same here,or is it that they want to promote only costly bikes with the new 1x drivetrains and join the wagon...... However as u said, I am not for the gravel bike.I myself have one entry level hardtail with rim brakes, One mid range endurance road bike with rim brakes and recently added one touring bike ( Four corners from marin)with triple cranks and mechanical discs.....
The gravel bike descends from cyclocross bike and the endurance road bike. None of those bikes (or really anything outside of a touring bike or hybrid bike) run a triple crank. Design wise they are built to race gravel/dirt/poorly maintained roadways. They can also do anything really a road bike can do or a cyclocross bike. They developed a following as good all rounder, because they could do so much, but with that people still wanted more. As of late they have been putting mudguards rack and fender mounts, to market it further as some type of adventuring/light touring bike. But its not actually a touring bike, that's why gravel bikes will never have a triple. As for the 1x drivetrain, that is for mechanical simplicity. On gravel race courses there can be the same issues that cyclocross courses have. can be found on gravel races. Mud buildup causing dropped chains, derailleur death, and inability to shift, 1x system solves some of this
@@sharadpatil9018 more chainrings don't necessarily mean more gearing options. Due to cross chaining you can't use that many gears anyways. But the more important point is: A 2x11 drivetrain already has so small jumps between the gears that a 3x isn't worth the extra weight. And for some riders it's the same case with 2x over 1x. The gearing range is almost the same with modern larger cassettes and if the larger gaps between gears doesn't bother you, then you can get a lighter bike without much sacrifice. And a lighter bike helps you uphill and when riding over obstacles.
my mountain bike is one by 11, my gravel bike is 2 by 11. my road bike is 1 byalfine. my folder is 2 by 3 having watched this not sure what bike I have now :)
The Dirty Kanza Gravel Race 2018 was won, both for the male and female categories, by riders on "Cyclocross" bikes [www.bikeradar.com/us/gear/article/dirty-kanza-2018-ted-king-kaitlin-keough-rebecca-rusch-matt-acker-pro-bike-52378/] So, how does the industry justify cycling customers spending thousands on "separate" gravel and cyclocross bicycles? Doesn't this prove that the need for both "Cyclocross" and "Gravel Bikes" is not just a marketing hype?
@@ayomideabejide1159 one way to make a mountainbike faster for commuting: Put on road/gravel wheels. If the axles are the same they usually fit without problems. It does look ridiculous though.
Doesn't mean it's bad though. Gravel bikes have a different field of use and they are what many riders want. You can very roughly view them as road bikes with more tire clearance to give the riders more options.
@Kleiner Helfer I have a gravel bike and an xc mountainbike. That way even when I'm doing longer road rides I can venture off-road almost anywhere I want to.
A gravel bike is a type of road bike. It works just as well if not better than a road bike on the road due to its ability to run larger tires. Gravel bike can also be used for racing, there is explicitly a race format called gravel grinding. You wouldn't know of this because your European and cyclocross format of choice.
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I think the question you need to ask is: What terrain do I NOT want to ride on. If you can live without descending over roots, and rocks then get a gravel bike. If you can live without ever leaving the asphalt, or if you want to race road then get a road bike. If you're riding for fun and not doing single track get a gravel bike. I think as long as you're not racing road then there is no reason to choose a road bike over a gravel bike. The mountain bike will handle terrain that is just so much more extreme than the gravel or road bike, but that is at the price of being not fun on asphalt. Also, if you only are buying one bike, do not get a single front chain ring bike - the gearing range is just too limited.
Single ring isn't' as limiting as you think it is. Its the jumps that are more pronounced. You gain simplicity and loose overlapping gears, at the cost of big jumps and a little bit of top end range.
Fran Rod Sure, but it doesn't have drop bars. That's the thing, to do asphalt and mud/roots/jumps there will always have to be some kind of compromise.
Smale Rider Exactly. So, there is a trade off. Personally I'll take the tiny bit of extra complexity for the giant gain in gear flexibility and the benefit of being able to hit the right cadence.
Bradley Comis ya totally there no reason for a road bike if ur not really racking stick with agravel.
mountain bikes with slicks are very confortable for commuting.
and you can convert them easily to ebike.
Surely gravel bikes give best of both worlds. Put road tires on when you want to go fast and then wider knobbly tires for when you want to tackle more tricky terrain. If you're doing anything on the extremes of this you'll either get a road bike or mountain bike...
One of the things I didnt hear you mention is upgrading/changing components. Eg you can put road gearings on the gravel bike by changing cassettes and drive rings.
I have 3 bikes. 2 MTB and a road one.
Road bike I use for training and commuting, but now I start to afraid of roads... Dangerous
1 MTB is a full suspension trail bike and it requires maintenance. The other MTB is a cheep one hard tail and I use it for commuting and mud conditions. Almost no maintenance, only chain lubricate.
I think I'll buy a gravel bike instead of road and a hard tail, but 2x11, not 1x11.
Full suspension one is for singles.
The answer is very simple, get all three bikes shown here and a fat bike, a proper cummuter bike with racks and fenders, a single speed and keep on adding bikes as you see fit. Remember N+1.
a foldie too
@@nawaal4452 I wouldn’t mind getting a Brompton.
Gravel bike for everything except real rough mountain biking
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I have all 3. The road bike gets the most saddle time. I like to do longer rides (30m +) and the road bike, is slightly less comfortable, but substantially faster over the longer distances. I got a titanium road frame recently and the comfort level increased dramatically.
My Fuji Tread (entry level gravel) has 2X10 drive train. I love gravel bikes. Great video
is it good for going up hills ?
You should try all three and see what suits you best. Try and find a place that offers demo rides.
I am use the 2 of the 3, road bike and I trekking...the set up of the road is common but at trekking I change the fork with out suspension, so I earn 2.30 kilos and the tires to 35 from 45, so I can use it at all terrains with more flexible gear set up, 3x8...can u five me I good reason to by a gravel bike...I am asking from u how r expert on bikes cause the only I can untersund is a new category for spending money...thank u
I go for mtb even on road ... More comportable .... The gearing is so friendly ... And it has the right handle bar easy to manage ... Buy MTB first very handy
mtb handlebar gives more fatigue to arms, then roadbike.
I agree with everything you said! To this I would add that I have all three and ride the gravel bike more than 80% of the time. As they say, your mileage may vary!!
how many speeds your bike have?
@@DannyPacheco-j6f Gravel bike, 2x11 today. When this video was new...maybe I was still 1x10 on the gravel bike.
@@avoycendeether8869 does it have drop bars?
@@JitinMisra Yes.
@@avoycendeether8869 I bought a fx3 , but I’m having doubts as to exchange it for a drop bar bike
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Can i do something like 180 jump or coming down of stairs with that?
I have a Cyclocross bike with Gravel bike geometry and it can run 42c or 27.5x2 tires. Versatile enough for me.
I think that is actually a gravel bike. I don't know any cross bikes that do that 700c to 650b tire trick. There is about a dozen or so bike that do that, and they are marketed and sold as gravel bikes.
Smale Rider the bike I'm referring to is the Nashbar Cyclocross Frame + Carbon fork. The frame can fit a 27.5x2 inch whereas the fork can run 1.75 but I'm getting a fork that can take 2.1 tires
Smale Rider also another Cyclocross bike that can fit 27.5x2 is the Giant TCX Aluminum model
A Gravel bike that can take 650b and 700 wheelsets. YOu can go on trails just just can't bomb down rut laiden trails with jumps and drops. If you don't plan on real technical stuff a carbon gravel bike with a good tire clearance would be very diverse and fun!
I wanna buy the Specialized Allez with 700x25 wheels. It can't take 28 tyres i believe. I love road bikes and i wanna use it for training,brevets and races. I care for speed and comfort. But the roads of my country are gruesome. Full of potholes and we are talking about big ones. Some cover the whole street. Will it ruin the experience for me or will i be fine with the right PSI?
Anyone has the same problem?
depends on how good your Roads are around me they are almost dirt lots of potholes and bumps. I love my gravel bike. it was a no Brainer choice for me. first thing I did was change the chainring and cassette to make it more climbing friendly.
The mountain bike with full suspension is very comfortable for the city if you change the seat and bars. Riding sidewalks and crossing driveways , curb transitions, potholes, are a lot easier when you have suspension to take out the jolts and bumps. The chain ring needs a bigger final drive on the front say a 48t. But those few changes in my opinion creates a better riding comfortable bike for the city than a stock mtb or gravel bike or road bike. I'm not sure what you would name such a bike but I think it would offer almost all the benefits of the three in one package. Plus it's very rugged.
Can you elaborate a bit more please? What kind of changes on the seat and bars?
i have hybrid bike , i have 3 in the front and 7 in the rear , is it good?
Its basic. Like there are bikes a lot better than that. But like, its okay. Your bike is okay.
Is a gravel bike good for mostly tarmac and going up hills easily, and light off roading ?
I have a schwinn world sport 10 speed.
how strong are these marin bikes, how is the ride quality...
What's the deal with the aero bars on the Gravel Bike? Wouldn't a 2x drivetrain on the gravel bike be better? IMO the Breezer Radar Expert is THE Entry level gravel bike to get. It has a 'BULLETPROOF TANK' CRMO double butted Steel Frame AND fork, #5 WB mounts, F/R rack/fender mounts, tire clearance up to 700c x 2.1" (54mm) and a 2x9 Sora/Deore RD drivetrain (32/48t Crank: 11-36t Cassette) and Hydraulic Disc brakes activated by regular brake cables. It's about 1+ kilo (2-3 lbs) heavier than an aluminum frame with carbon fork though but not a big deal. $900-$1000 for this bike is a GREAT DEAL!!! Steel is Real Baby!!!
MTB is like Toyota Corolla; it can take you anywhere without hassle. If you are in Africa, MTB is mostly the best choice.
Haha, I would say Toyota Corolla is like gravel bike, it'll take you anywhere, but will get stuck in only the extreme. MTB is like Toyota Hilux. It will get you everywhere, no questions asked.
mountain bikes with slicks are very confortable for commuting.
and you can convert them easily to ebike.
Do I see aero bars on the gravel bike.
I just have a cheap btwin for my 3 mile commute thinking of just putting so road tyres on it
If it has to be just one bike to cover all disciplines, then it should be the one in the middle, so the gravel bike. Or better still, a good quality cyclocross bike, with a couple of sets of wheels / tyres for road and off- road
Cyclocross bike is good for cyclocross races, outside that, the gravel bike will do everything it does better.
CX and gravel are almost the same, most of the differene is tires. Scott use one frame for addict gravel and addict cx.
CX bikes have shorter chain-stays, higher BB, steeper head-tube angle, shorter wheelbases, and a top tube designed better for carrying.
Not nescessary. It's really hard to tell the difference except for tires and gear ratio. For example specialized crux or merida cx have significant slope and have no problems with carrying. BB drop on crux is 69mm, that common for gravel. HA on almost every gravel and cx is between 71-72 for medium sizes, the same for chainstay lenght and wheelbase.
You're comparing nothing to nothing. Comparing two cross bikes with each other from different brands gives absolutely no picture at all. A comparison must be made within each brands cross vs gravel. Finally Crux a is a terrible example, back pre-mainstream gravel biking people used CX bikes. Many people were using and being successful on specifically the Crux. With rider feedback from all these races Specialized adapted gravel bike features on the Crux. A proper gravel bike is like a endurance road bike, a CX bike is more like a road race bike.
Niner RLT RDO(gravel) 47 vs Niner BSB RDO(cross) 47
Chainstay 430 vs 425
BB 75 vs 68
HT 70 vs 70.5
wheelbase 1000 vs 993
Which on would you recommend? SCOTT SPEEDSTER GRAVEL 20 DISC BIKE vs. /
SCOTT SPEEDSTER CX 20 DISC BIKE
If you don't know what to focus on and you only can buy 1 bike, buy a mtb it can do both for sure. A gravel can do road fairly well but no way can handle the trails. Obviously road cannot handle trails.
for me MTB because it's more versatile
If you can only afford one, everyone must own at least a mountain bike. It's the gold standard AK-47 of transportation. Second for commute or training is a pure road bike. Get all the racks or panniers for the MTB and only a tiny toolbag for the road bike. If you must have a third, then get a folding bike and carry it in the trunk of your car.
Set up a simple bikepacking kit for the MTB and you are all ready for the zombies. Remember the Vietnam war... strong bike and offroad kit > 20th century airpower and unforgiving terrain.
i ride for fun.. i ride street , offroad , love trials and stunts, i go for long rides.. but im messed up.. i do long rides and offroading on my 4x bike.. and ride street on my bmx .i do trials on another 4x bike.. planning on getting a trials bike. im not good at any dicipline. but enjoy all of it.
Hi, I'm looking to buy an adventure bike for long distance touring plus occasional terrain& road cycling. Have you got any views on Norco search s1 2015 (105)/Pinnacle Arkose 3 (105 ,with ultergra crank, Acor hydraulic clippers) / trek Crockett 5 / Orro Terra 2016/ Giant revolt 1 / specialized Awol(too heavy??) and specialized CruX/ diverge. Thanks a lot. Btw, all your videos are aawweeesssooommmeee!!!! Cheers.
Any bike that can't ride with a 40mm tire isn't worth purchasing. You also don't want to be buying a cross bike.
Just buy mtb with 1.3" / 1.5" tire ...
How about Gravel bike vs Cyclocross? for commuter/fitness/bike i wanna take everywhere and beat it up (lol)
I had a cannondale carbon synapse 105 about a year ago, doing 90% road/hills, and some gravel, but i like the gravel more. I stopped for a bit and sold the bike.
Now i'm looking at the Giant TCX SLR 2, Jamis Renegade Expat, & Niner RLT 9 1 Star.
All have pretty good components for the price, and 1200$ is the max I',m willing to go this time (The synapse cost a lot more and took a while to pay off)
I'll be doing similarly 80% paved roads/paved bike paths/hills, but I want to take it offroad whenever I want.
I'm unsure about a cyclocross vs a gravel grinder. I know there's differences, but from what I've heard it's not much.
The synapse was an endurance geometry and I loved it. It never really hurt my back. But then again, I could also just raise the stem and get spacers if the bike I choose has a more aggressive geo, right?
any opinions are appreciated. Thanks! 🙂
What if I want a bike only for commuting but city roads are REAL bad ?
You can put a drop bar or bar ends as well as skinnier tires on a hardtail mtb.
That works quite well.
Greetings from Portugal, Shai!
which is the gearing used on that gravel bike? i have an old fram that i want to use on comuting, but i dont want to turn it into a fixie. can you shed some light?
thanks.
SRAM 1x system, apex rival or force versions available.
I've noticed your bars are set on the bottom,
In case of having TWO bikes, I would go for MTB and ROAD..... in case of only ONE bike, I would go for ......29" ;-) ....Gravel only as FOURTH bike in collection
Przemek Such n+1 rule.
DINO IDEAS tell that to my wife ;-)
Przemek Such i wish non cyclists understood the rule.
go get a mountain bike.... yeah a roadbike can go fast but a mountain bike can go anywhere
How about gravel?
@@jeromefritz8926 a mountainbike does give you more options of where you can ride but a gravel bike is a lot more fun on tarmac and other smooth surfaces.
I have one xc MTB and a gravel bike but I'm going to change the tires to road ones soon. Then it's almost a normal road bike.
@@Sidowse many people don't mind the wider steps between gear with a 1x system.
Some riders simply don't need the range that a 2x system provides so 1x is fine for them.
And when using dropper posts it really is great to free up the space below the handlebar on one side to fit a dropper lever.
But I'm glad Shimano still offers 2x systems for their new MTB drivetrains (unlike SRAM), because obviously 1x isn't for everyone.
I still think XC Bikes are pretty much the most versatile bikes.
Gravel bikes with a bit of front suspension are another contender for that spot though. (Basically XC bikes with drop bars and skinnier tires)
@Fellow accelerationist LOL :D
Hi,I have recently joined ur channel. I have a question regarding the gearing on gravel bike shown here. Wouldn't it be better to have a triple crank on the so called gravel bike to increase it's versatility(by which I mean do anything bike.. of course not on competition level but for a cycle enthusiasts ), because as it is that the bike can be fitted with 700×35c tyres. There comes a model with those specifications called Lombard from marin ,I wonder why haven't they included the same here,or is it that they want to promote only costly bikes with the new 1x drivetrains and join the wagon......
However as u said, I am not for the gravel bike.I myself have one entry level hardtail with rim brakes, One mid range endurance road bike with rim brakes and recently added one touring bike ( Four corners from marin)with triple cranks and mechanical discs.....
The gravel bike descends from cyclocross bike and the endurance road bike. None of those bikes (or really anything outside of a touring bike or hybrid bike) run a triple crank. Design wise they are built to race gravel/dirt/poorly maintained roadways. They can also do anything really a road bike can do or a cyclocross bike. They developed a following as good all rounder, because they could do so much, but with that people still wanted more. As of late they have been putting mudguards rack and fender mounts, to market it further as some type of adventuring/light touring bike. But its not actually a touring bike, that's why gravel bikes will never have a triple.
As for the 1x drivetrain, that is for mechanical simplicity. On gravel race courses there can be the same issues that cyclocross courses have. can be found on gravel races. Mud buildup causing dropped chains, derailleur death, and inability to shift, 1x system solves some of this
but the question here remains the same for the first byer I mean regarding versatility....
@@sharadpatil9018 more chainrings don't necessarily mean more gearing options.
Due to cross chaining you can't use that many gears anyways.
But the more important point is:
A 2x11 drivetrain already has so small jumps between the gears that a 3x isn't worth the extra weight.
And for some riders it's the same case with 2x over 1x. The gearing range is almost the same with modern larger cassettes and if the larger gaps between gears doesn't bother you, then you can get a lighter bike without much sacrifice.
And a lighter bike helps you uphill and when riding over obstacles.
my mountain bike is one by 11, my gravel bike is 2 by 11. my road bike is 1 byalfine. my folder is 2 by 3 having watched this not sure what bike I have now :)
;)
The Dirty Kanza Gravel Race 2018 was won, both for the male and female categories, by riders on "Cyclocross" bikes [www.bikeradar.com/us/gear/article/dirty-kanza-2018-ted-king-kaitlin-keough-rebecca-rusch-matt-acker-pro-bike-52378/]
So, how does the industry justify cycling customers spending thousands on "separate" gravel and cyclocross bicycles?
Doesn't this prove that the need for both "Cyclocross" and "Gravel Bikes" is not just a marketing hype?
Are you sponsored by Marin? :) Just wondering since you've had many Marin bikes in your latest videos.
Which do you think is faster: gravel or mountain?
Depends on the terrain but on all smooth surfaces, the gravel bike is faster.
@@sebastianjost Ok, thank you.
@@ayomideabejide1159 one way to make a mountainbike faster for commuting:
Put on road/gravel wheels.
If the axles are the same they usually fit without problems.
It does look ridiculous though.
@@sebastianjost Okay, thanks.
Gravel Bike is just older Mountain Bike design
my dream bike would be gravel bike with mt bike drivetrain and straight bar so I can climb steep roads.
MTB for sure
just a humble advice, try pulling the brake with one finger
Great channel bro
2.14 "...has one CHAIN in the front..."? :-))) U mean STAR?
ANYTHING that's sold with fancy advertising, sponsored athletes, magazine features, etc., IS A MARKETING HYPE...
Doesn't mean it's bad though.
Gravel bikes have a different field of use and they are what many riders want.
You can very roughly view them as road bikes with more tire clearance to give the riders more options.
@Kleiner Helfer I have a gravel bike and an xc mountainbike. That way even when I'm doing longer road rides I can venture off-road almost anywhere I want to.
You are missing one more bike what about the time trial bike
Have gravel and mountain,,,change rides every other day.
Buy a good mountain bike. Buy a cheap road bike. Your welcome
MTB all the way cuz I'm broke and can only afford one
Are you Marin's dealer?
Oh, no :)
Buy a gravel bike. Swap to road tyres later for road racing. You're welcome.
Yay, MARIN
cyclocross is what u need
If you're doing a cyclocross race yes, otherwise a gravel bike is superior.
Dude if your are going for 6+ hours u should buy a road bike
And 6+ hours on a cx is not hard i have gravel road cx and mtb
i would buy cyclocross cuz its nice for 150km rides and also for racing
A gravel bike is a type of road bike. It works just as well if not better than a road bike on the road due to its ability to run larger tires. Gravel bike can also be used for racing, there is explicitly a race format called gravel grinding. You wouldn't know of this because your European and cyclocross format of choice.
Gravel bike!!
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