I had an articulated loader for years, i preferred it over a skid steer for many applications, in particular lifting pallets and loading trucks, they dont screw the ground up and dont become useless when its muddy.
Thanks Tim, brilliant video, just looking at the bank account as I type this. I have previously mentioned that I have an all singing and possibly dancing large tractor. But its difficult to use on the small jobs. I have toyed with the idea of a Bobcat and now that I have seen this unit. The Bobcat is now off my list of toys. Thanks again, great video.
No mention of duty cycle. How long can you be using this before it needs a recharge. Obviously it depends on use but some ball park idea dealing with typical applications.
So Tim what are your own capabilities for fixing and repair? You take a risk from purchasing off-brand, and another risk by purchasing electric/battery (for this use case, and in this time frame). I imagine if there is a problem, you're not even going to get support from the factory (which even if you did, would not really be a "support" network). Would this be something you only recommend to those experienced in both electrical troubleshooting and mechanical? How is tihis holding up after one season? Cheers. (and I'm in the USA, can not locate these..)
Your concerns over lithium batteries are laudable but somewhat misplaced: Electric cars use 2% of globally extracted cobalt. 95% of extracted cobalt is from ordinary industrial mines. The "artisanal" mines in Congo are abhorrent but they are neither necessary nor can they supply the amount of cobalt needed anyway. As EV demand increases, newer mines in places other than Congo are already opening up. Indeed half of Tesla's batteries are already cobalt free despite the relatively small chance of the cobalt being from unethical sources. So the issue is declining, isn't being driven by EV production anymore than industry in general, its scale is limited and its overall impact is very small when compared to the hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths from respiratory illness caused by burning fossil fuels. Direct parallels could be drawn with the enormous crude oil spills in Nigerian wetlands that have made local farmers destitute and caused the deaths of thousands of children due to pollution. I say all this not to be cynical, nihilistic or belligerent, but purely to place the issue in context. Hopefully its useful information.
Great comment thank you. I literally cracked the off colour joke to shut down criticism of the use of lead acid as they actually make sense in this machine. Plus, from a waste and recycling point the Lead batteries are easier at end of life. Although there is a grerat company called Lithium Australia that is trying to remidy that issue too... Copped some flack for the joke, but created great discussion like this too, so it pays to be a bit controversial at times I guess.
@@FarmLearningTim So true. Lots of life in lead acid batteries still. Had a lead-acid quad bike and that thing really benefited from the extra weight for traction. I've learnt so much from your videos so glad I could help the algorithm for you. Best wishes from a whinging pom.
@@FarmLearningTim does the other electric machine use LFP or lithium polymer batteries? LFP is somewhat of a speciality of china and doesnt even use cobalt. Somewhat heavier and less powerfull than the other lithium chemistry but leagues better than lead acid.
How to get in touch with you? We recently released a model.Four-wheel independent drive electric loader, which is a machine with leading global technology, we hope to promote it in North America.
The comment about "torturing African children" is both ignorant and wrong. I assume that you are referring to the use of cobalt, which is only used in a small number of chemistries of lithium ion batteries. Use of children in artisanal mining in the Congo, is effectively non-existent these days. This sort of comment perpetuates myths that hamper the essential electrification of transport and I expected better of you to be honest.
Hear, hear. The same standards should apply to any use of fossil fuels as artisanal extraction of oil in Africa devestates entire ecosystems. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by respiratory illness globably. Giving children asthma is somehow just an accepted part of current transport system. Unfortunately these kind of myths spread because they contain some truth. But just as many many times more birds are killed by house cats and overhead power lines than wind turbines, the lesser evil is obscured by a tendency to not want to replace an awfull system with a system than isn't magically perfect.
There's definitely an orchestrated push to frame "electric vehicles and batteries are REALLY what's destroying the planet" narrative. That's usually uttered by people who follow up with "climate always changes". And they'll use the word "woke". Resource extraction for batteries IS ugly, but importantly it is not warming the ocean like the status quo is.
Thumbs down. This is a promo, an ad, right, with ads added... I dislike the ads, many are outright offensive. Anyway, wanted to comment on loader. Braking could be improved by a regen charger, so you charge batteries going down hills etc. Also, they could install a good solar panel on roof to keep battery topped up and could boost recharging off mains/solar. Dual charge feed. More teeth on larger buckets, replaceable cutting edges. They must also fix dangly cables, poor fitment, alignment asap. Single point greasing? Cages for ROPS for scrub work, hoeing blackberries. Has it got auxiliary hydrualics to boom? A hydraulic chainsaw would be good. What was lighting like? Must have great 360 deg lighting. An optional rack on rear to fit extra batteries? 10 hours run time minimum, with lights on and radio blaring tsunami warnings etc. Needs fast charging, up to 30 amps would be good too.
It was a review. That’s why I pointed out all of the things you repeated in your comment. Reviews look at the positives and negatives. This allows people like you to make up your own mind if they investigate further. An ad just tells you to buy it. Hope that helps.
I had an articulated loader for years, i preferred it over a skid steer for many applications, in particular lifting pallets and loading trucks, they dont screw the ground up and dont become useless when its muddy.
Thanks Tim, brilliant video, just looking at the bank account as I type this. I have previously mentioned that I have an all singing and possibly dancing large tractor. But its difficult to use on the small jobs. I have toyed with the idea of a Bobcat and now that I have seen this unit. The Bobcat is now off my list of toys. Thanks again, great video.
Good video. Thanks tim.
I am pretty sure it is the same as my Everun EREL 1000 loader same specs and spongy brakes.
No mention of duty cycle. How long can you be using this before it needs a recharge. Obviously it depends on use but some ball park idea dealing with typical applications.
About 5-6 hours. Pretty sure I went into that…..
@@FarmLearningTim No you didn't but you have now 😁And you covered just about everything else in the video so thanks for the reply.
@@KenFullman cheers mate. Sorry. I’ve done several of these and must have missed it
Wondering what it would be like lifting round bales through softer sand, all my property is sand during summer it can get fairly soft.
The diffs are open so it would depend on wether you need to lock the diffs on your tractor or not I reckon.
@@FarmLearningTim thanks. Some thing to consider
Other videos show, if one wheel with the least traction slips, the other three wheels stand still. Means, all the power goes to the least resistance
Man I wish they had an electric tractor equivalent to the 35hp uhi tractor. Although not sure I could put up with that pump whine.
Nice loader try to buy one today but no one wanted to sell me one why uhi not good
Give them a call and ask for Ray. He’s expecting you
So Tim what are your own capabilities for fixing and repair? You take a risk from purchasing off-brand, and another risk by purchasing electric/battery (for this use case, and in this time frame). I imagine if there is a problem, you're not even going to get support from the factory (which even if you did, would not really be a "support" network). Would this be something you only recommend to those experienced in both electrical troubleshooting and mechanical? How is tihis holding up after one season? Cheers. (and I'm in the USA, can not locate these..)
Your concerns over lithium batteries are laudable but somewhat misplaced:
Electric cars use 2% of globally extracted cobalt. 95% of extracted cobalt is from ordinary industrial mines. The "artisanal" mines in Congo are abhorrent but they are neither necessary nor can they supply the amount of cobalt needed anyway. As EV demand increases, newer mines in places other than Congo are already opening up. Indeed half of Tesla's batteries are already cobalt free despite the relatively small chance of the cobalt being from unethical sources.
So the issue is declining, isn't being driven by EV production anymore than industry in general, its scale is limited and its overall impact is very small when compared to the hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths from respiratory illness caused by burning fossil fuels. Direct parallels could be drawn with the enormous crude oil spills in Nigerian wetlands that have made local farmers destitute and caused the deaths of thousands of children due to pollution.
I say all this not to be cynical, nihilistic or belligerent, but purely to place the issue in context. Hopefully its useful information.
Great comment thank you. I literally cracked the off colour joke to shut down criticism of the use of lead acid as they actually make sense in this machine. Plus, from a waste and recycling point the Lead batteries are easier at end of life. Although there is a grerat company called Lithium Australia that is trying to remidy that issue too... Copped some flack for the joke, but created great discussion like this too, so it pays to be a bit controversial at times I guess.
@@FarmLearningTim So true. Lots of life in lead acid batteries still. Had a lead-acid quad bike and that thing really benefited from the extra weight for traction.
I've learnt so much from your videos so glad I could help the algorithm for you.
Best wishes from a whinging pom.
@@FarmLearningTim does the other electric machine use LFP or lithium polymer batteries? LFP is somewhat of a speciality of china and doesnt even use cobalt. Somewhat heavier and less powerfull than the other lithium chemistry but leagues better than lead acid.
That joke had me in stitches 😂
how much does a replacement battery cost?
May be you can know YUCHAI electric skid steer loader
Mate, I’ll try anything once
How to get in touch with you? We recently released a model.Four-wheel independent drive electric loader, which is a machine with leading global technology, we hope to promote it in North America.
@@Yuchai001 enquiries@timthompsonmedia.com.au
The comment about "torturing African children" is both ignorant and wrong. I assume that you are referring to the use of cobalt, which is only used in a small number of chemistries of lithium ion batteries. Use of children in artisanal mining in the Congo, is effectively non-existent these days.
This sort of comment perpetuates myths that hamper the essential electrification of transport and I expected better of you to be honest.
Hear, hear. The same standards should apply to any use of fossil fuels as artisanal extraction of oil in Africa devestates entire ecosystems. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by respiratory illness globably. Giving children asthma is somehow just an accepted part of current transport system.
Unfortunately these kind of myths spread because they contain some truth. But just as many many times more birds are killed by house cats and overhead power lines than wind turbines, the lesser evil is obscured by a tendency to not want to replace an awfull system with a system than isn't magically perfect.
There's definitely an orchestrated push to frame "electric vehicles and batteries are REALLY what's destroying the planet" narrative. That's usually uttered by people who follow up with "climate always changes". And they'll use the word "woke". Resource extraction for batteries IS ugly, but importantly it is not warming the ocean like the status quo is.
Proof
Thumbs down. This is a promo, an ad, right, with ads added...
I dislike the ads, many are outright offensive.
Anyway, wanted to comment on loader.
Braking could be improved by a regen charger, so you charge batteries going down hills etc.
Also, they could install a good solar panel on roof to keep battery topped up and could boost recharging off mains/solar. Dual charge feed.
More teeth on larger buckets, replaceable cutting edges.
They must also fix dangly cables, poor fitment, alignment asap.
Single point greasing?
Cages for ROPS for scrub work, hoeing blackberries.
Has it got auxiliary hydrualics to boom?
A hydraulic chainsaw would be good.
What was lighting like?
Must have great 360 deg lighting.
An optional rack on rear to fit extra batteries? 10 hours run time minimum, with lights on and radio blaring tsunami warnings etc. Needs fast charging, up to 30 amps would be good too.
It was a review. That’s why I pointed out all of the things you repeated in your comment. Reviews look at the positives and negatives. This allows people like you to make up your own mind if they investigate further. An ad just tells you to buy it. Hope that helps.
Every single thing you have mentioned would add cost and it would no longer be a budget option..