My father still has not been on the Internet yet doesn’t own a cell phone uses a home phone like it’s the late 90s early 2000s and he seems so much more happier than everyone else
Well, yes, we all know that ignorance is bliss, but at the end of the day, it's still ignorance. I would rather be informed of what's going on,than stick my head in the sand and pretend everything is just fine.
Chocolate is a longer process than 4 days. I moved to the Caribbean during the pandemic and started picking and processing the cocao from my grandparents land. Fermentation, roasting, Parching etc… fermentation alone is min 3 days. Look into cocao ceremony it’s a deeply spiritual bean and there is a ‘high’ that you get from the bean that is stripped in processing of store bought chocolate because of use of chemicals. It also strips all the good nutrients. It’s actually an incredible bean… which is why it’s so heavily regulated 😢
@@TheAnnoyingBoss it has very little. It's probably like a decaffeinated coffee or less. Theobromine and Tryptophan are the ingredients that make you feel high.
Western propaganda when African leaders chose to take their business to china now poor westerners such yourself fall for that propaganda they are tired of getting played by western leaders since civilization began go ask their leaders why look it up and find out why this is coming out of your mouth not Africans
I used to work with cacao producers in Ecuador. They were 1000s of small farmers screathing together a living but there was not slave Labour involved there. Sometimes some kids were involved but that is the old system of education. Kids would go out with their fathers and learn how the farm works. Vital knowledge if they want to keep it as independent families. In Latin America life for poor people is tough, it really has nothing to do with chocolate. They sell eggs, fruit and other products they produce too.
bruh i need friends like joe and duncan!!!!!!!!! every conversation they have are perfectly aligned with the stuff im into !!!!! i need these type of conversations outside of the internet!!!!! lmao
I dont know why I found it so funny the way Joe said “Jamie, find out about chocolate.” its gotta be the serious tone of his voice while wearing that black cloak😂
I went to an cacao farm, owned & ran by an indigenous tribe in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica (Caribbean side). They did tours and allowed us to make our own chocolate. This should be a protected industry.
I went to Hershey, PA (seasonal side) and got to walk around a fake factory, exiting through the gift shop and got a free small "chocolate" bar. This should be boycotted by all!
Protected by you personally? who would you choose to protect it? How should they do this? Why and to what ends? How do you keep them accountable? How do you keep them from becoming the new exploiter? How do you pay the protector? they need a wage to live. will you take a cut from the workers? or simply tell them to work harder for the same amount of pay to compensate?
There is an excellent documentary called the dark side of chocolate, which speaks in depth about this topic. In these slavery cases, there are large associated companies such as Nestle and Hershey, which have received multiple lawsuits.
The blame is on a few levels, though. The parents often sell or lend (in exchange for someone else accepting the burden of feeding and housing ) the kid. The orchard/plantation owners and managers (often black Africans) are partly to blame. I'd guess the middlemen who help broker deals between the orchard owners and Nestle and Hershey and other resellers are to blame. And, you and I are to blame (consumers) for helping to finance it. If chocolate is publicly traded or a commodity, then that industry is also to blame - including investors.
For me, These episodes are the backbone of JRE. Along with the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson episodes. Eddie bravo and later episode #911. The Annie jacobson and Bob lazars, I miss these types of episodes coming out as regularly as they once did just for the feeling of nostalgia they bring.
You already wear clothes and shoes made by sweat shops and you use your phone on a daily basis made by chinese slave. You watch porn? Thats connected to sex trafficking. List goes on.
What I learned 15 years ago in high school was if everyone in the chain of making chocolate, got paid correctly. 1 single bar of chocolate would costs about $20. It's cheap because of child & slave labor.
I first got a chocolate wake up call when I moved to Hawaii and bought a $20 bar of chocolate from a small chocolate farm/factory in Kilauea. They charge that not only due to their operation costs but also because they are paying their employees a US wage. Slave labor on cacao farms overseas keeps costs down while the corporate owners make bank.
I will have to look this up too, to read about how chocolate is manufactured and made. Thank you for bringing this up because if this is true, the employees need to be protected. The chocolate industry is not the only business where people suffer, and it is ignored. Again, thank you for bringing this up to remind those in our society, of what really transpires.
Don't just look up chocolate. Look at Nestle. They have a massive chocolate industry and water industry. Basically, if you switch off Nestle products, you're good to go
Here in Ghana (West Africa), I wouldn't describe the cocoa industry/farming/production as using slave or near slave labor, nor abusive child labor. Yes, children do help/work with their parents on farms. As a culture, children are tought and expected to help/work in some form everyday, be it at the house or on the family farm. As far as slave labor. The Ghananian Cocoa Board does a decent job of organizing and regulating the industry. With that being said. Like many people all around the world, the farmers get a very low rate for their crop. The government hasnt done a great job of building roads in those areas and transport of goods or the struggle to transport, further hurts the cocoa farmers. The farmers get by year to year (harvest to harvest), but, they are not thriving, no matter how hard they work.
It depends what you consider a slave... Obviously they arent slaves in terms of freedom but they are economic slaves. Not paying them proper or at least decent money for their work is sickening.
Just went to Ghana for the first time last year for a research trip in November and that was one of the most intriguing aspects. Western views of child slavery in west Africa are wildly different than reality. Kids who did work on the farms had set roles (not clearing or major manual labour) and only did so outside of school. Though you bring up the interesting aspect of the cocobod. While necessary (small time Ghanaian chocolate farmers could not possibly sell on the open market at a fair price) it seemed that the cocobod took an unfair split of cocoa revenue and the excess money was mainly spent In the big cities (like Accra). Seems like a multifaceted problem but I think the core issue around chocolate is not the child slavery but rather the low prices and low pay of Ghanaian chocolate. Ghana is a beautiful country I certainly intend on going again
I work in a kitchen. We waste a lot of food because it's not up to our standards, which doesn't mean it's bad to eat. But the one thing I find unacceptable is the waste of chocolate. Chickens die for chicken, cows die for beef, humans die for chocolate, and many of them never taste a bite of it.
this might be one of the funniest moments in jre history 0:12 the vague thing to look up and then the instant dismiss of what he found as if hes an idiot for selecting that. idk why but that just got me
I know when he said find out about chocolate I just pictured Jamie just sitting there racking his brain like fuck I mean cuz u be a lil more specific im sure I can find out tons of shit about chocolate
I just graduated with a degree in finance, one of the classes I had to take to graduate was a business ethics class, we spent about a month working on a project regarding the chocolate industry and we reached out to all the companies to try to get statements on it, crazy this type of shit happens and no one talks about it, none of the companies ever replied lol
Yep! Me too. Poor uneducated ppl and children are exploited to the extreme and what’s really sad is that that life is normal to them when it shouldn’t be.
There is a lot of slavery and child labor used in cacao farming. This has been known for decades. This is something large chocolate companies also struggle with as efforts to abolish or even just reign this in have not worked well at all. It is extremely difficult to guarantee that your chocolate does not include cacao from child and slave labor
chocolate is one of the last foods that I actually enjoy and participate in making. now I have to switch to hazelnuts, next you're going to have a podcast exposing the hazelnut industry
40 years of smoking weed heavily...never heard of or known anyone to have a "bad weed trip". The greed of the companies and the employee unions destroyed Detroit.
I just feel like we all need to learn how to make the things we buy! From chocolate, to toothpaste, to shoes, to education. It’s all a trick! We should be able to find everything in our communities, from actual people not corporations. The more we encourage people to learn how to make our own stuff, the more we will be able to take our power back. We don’t have to go buy something if we deep down don’t want to! But ask yourself why it is that way!
That’s what they don’t want, that’s how they keep us in control. To an extent we’re all slaves to the governments. Some on higher levels than others I guess lol
It’s awful that basically everything we have is sourced from some sort of tragic condition. Whether it’s the clothes we wear, the phones & electronics we enjoy, or even the food we eat. There’s always something wrong with the process somewhere in the lines of production, I wish it was as easy to stop it as it was to say it.
Well that’s because we are spoiled 1st world citizens. We as Americans are the nobles of the world, we are rich and fat and we consume the most media and the best tech. We have so little genuine issues that we’ve started to make up problems.
ok what joe doesnt understand is this when he says it would be better if things were built in america without any exploitation in africa and stuff, yes granted shifting everything inside would end active harm but it would create a much bigger problem of harm by neglect, that cocoa farmer at least earns 1 dollar a day, what would happen if that job went away? africa wouldnt create a domestic market magically, the cocoa farmer would just die instead. globalisation has probably pulled billions out of poverty, looking in is never the answer, let capitalism do its job.
@@Someone-nv1cj This is so true. I'm not stoked about the existence of child labor, but the notion that if these kids weren't working in the first place that they'd be frolicking through meadows is asinine. Why are these kids working in the first place? Their society is so unproductive that if they weren't working, the family would starve. This is precisely why it has existed throughout history. IIRC Oxfam did a study on what happened when Bangladesh tried to outlaw child labor. Children starved to death or went into prostitution.
A big part of the problem is people want to have the latest phones, t-shirts, TV's, cars etc. They think it will make them happier, but all it does is make them have to work harder to pay off the bigger and bigger debts they take out for the stuff they don't need.
I was a part of the avoiding spotify crowd for a while too until recently. I actually prefer Spotify in some ways since you can turn the phone screen off and still listen to it whereas RUclips won't do that. It's guests like Duncan that made me cave and finally download it
Strange it was only a couple of days ago I watched a RUclips video where a man took chocolate bars to those workers and none of them had ever even tasted chocolate, they were really surprised because the nuts themselves are really bitter so they always thought chocolate was extremely bitter.
@chipsthedog1 I have lived in Ivory Coast for many years. Local chocolate is available here and its very cheap. The only problem here is the farmers don't get a fair price. When they started to complain, all this child labour BS started.
@@frankyakro246 well all the videos looked legit unless all those workers and farmers were acting for the camera, have. A search there's loads of videos doing the same thing
there's an older YT documentary about this - little boys are made to work in the chocolate orchards and they don't go to school. At the very least, the owners of the orchards should make the boys go to school 4 hours a day - maybe during the hottest hours of the day. Often in Africa, the childrens' parents sell or lease their kids because they need the money to support their younger kids.
Hershey's and Mars is good for doing this. I use to work at Lindt Chocolate and they make sure nothing like this happens on there cocoa farms. It's sad but this is what multi billion dollar companies do they don't care about the little penalties that they get fined or how many people die in a day/week/ or month.
@@josippijaca8784 Yeah I worked for there plant in Stratham New Hampshire. When you get out of your car that's all you can smell in the air, and of course after your shift was over you went home smelling like chocolate as well. Plus they treat all there employees very well.
One would think no one cares about the fine bro, who wants to prodice chocolate off slave labor? The fine is nothing bro the social stigma from that will be much much worse 😂
As for an ethical phone solution - you could try buying a phone, taking out the battery and reselling it, and then using the phone always plugged to a charger. Less convenient, but cobalt-free.
Duncan's breakdown of the weed hit is accurate. If you're worried about anything; financial, relationship, news you heard, etc. Can be anything. If you smoke weed while your mind is mostly focused on something heavy, your high will turn into anxious/paranoia. That's why your first few smoke sessions sucked. Get your mind right no matter the circumstances, then smoke.
its so fucking weird. when press secretary said "top of mind" everyone was like "Wtf kind of phrase is that?" but now i hear people saying it frequently
I'm from Ghana 🇬🇭, and no one is dying in Ghana from farming cocoa. They are not getting what they deserve tho. Cocoa farmers use their kids and young men in the neighborhood.
I stopped eating it. I've boycotted Hershey after getting reports about them not paying for the beans. 100's of millions of dollars past due. As the candy bars, more than noticeably have shrunk, as the price is $3 a bar. Bottom line, corporations don't give one f* about anybody. Consumed in greed. Stop buying their products and force the change.
Hot chocolate is the premium drink in all major organisations, apple have their own hot chocolate, so do Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook etc. That is because these organizations know how long the chocolate industry will last, I wouldn't be surprised if chocolate becomes a premium in the next few decades
i really felt what duncan said about weed making you think about stuff you actively ignore... i quit weed because it makes me think about how much heroin i do.
"You just don't think that, do you, when you are eating a kit kat?!" "A kit kat is a day's work..." Duncan. Unplugged from smart phone four months ago, (got tired of AI raking all my data and trends, that was the final straw.) However I do have a semi smart flip. Unplugging from apps is highly underrated.
Actually, you don't need it. This past week I shared a few hours with a Gentleman in West Virginia who has been willingly walking a more "proper" path for decades. His Brother, is a legit & respected touring musician yet, this man finds his Peace & Purpose through the simplicity of his days. It's admirable to me yet, I am not allowing myself to remove the shit that is necessary to leave behind to acquire that kinda vast perspective & harmony.
i remember a story about indian tea farms, and people(child laborers) go out there and spray the fields with pesticide and die because they dont have protective equipment.
Detroit pulled most of the automobile companies 40 years ago. My dad used to work for the automotive company in Michigan called bud. They closed up when I was 12 years old and my family moved back to Florida.
Next time someone say something about AI "stealing" ideas, let's talk about how humans still use slavery to make the phones you use from America to India, from China to South Africa.
Everywhere in the world, Production of any kind, from your shoes to cloths to any electronic gadgets just anything that is being made by man there's a human suffering immensely producing that UNWILLINGLY!
Joe Rogan in a black cloak in a shadowy room: “Jamie, find out about chocolate.”
🤣🤣🤣
im dead
Let him cook
i lost my shit as soon as he said that not even 15 seconds in lmaooo
Dude that is so funny. 👏
My father still has not been on the Internet yet doesn’t own a cell phone uses a home phone like it’s the late 90s early 2000s and he seems so much more happier than everyone else
Smart man.
He must not watch the news either🤣
Well, yes, we all know that ignorance is bliss, but at the end of the day, it's still ignorance. I would rather be informed of what's going on,than stick my head in the sand and pretend everything is just fine.
What the hell does he do for a living that has allowed him to completely avoid technology as part of his life?
@@GemyniMoodJuice I would be with you on this but it sounds like he IS just fine. It’s not as if we’re informed anyway
Chocolate is a longer process than 4 days. I moved to the Caribbean during the pandemic and started picking and processing the cocao from my grandparents land. Fermentation, roasting, Parching etc… fermentation alone is min 3 days. Look into cocao ceremony it’s a deeply spiritual bean and there is a ‘high’ that you get from the bean that is stripped in processing of store bought chocolate because of use of chemicals. It also strips all the good nutrients. It’s actually an incredible bean… which is why it’s so heavily regulated 😢
Cacao is the best if you wanna go out and party without doing hard drugs
I went the St. Lucia in 2007. I brought a bean back with me. I wish I still had it to show my kid. Some things just get lost to time, I guess.
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Isnt it full of caffeine? Isnt chocolate got something like that?
@@TheAnnoyingBoss it has very little. It's probably like a decaffeinated coffee or less. Theobromine and Tryptophan are the ingredients that make you feel high.
"Jamie find out about chocolate!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣
That got me 😂
Had me dying 🤣🤣
Jamie = Siri
Some serious Jamie entitlement
The love and true friendship between these two makes these episodes so much more enjoyable
Western propaganda when African leaders chose to take their business to china now poor westerners such yourself fall for that propaganda they are tired of getting played by western leaders since civilization began go ask their leaders why look it up and find out why this is coming out of your mouth not Africans
Jamie find out about chocolate 😂
Lmao, yeah, I had the same thought. It reminds me of how you interact with an AI. 😂
Jaime is ChatGPT lol
😂😂😂😂 like he’s talking to Siri lmao.
@@travihuncho *BEEP* "here's what I found about chocolate." *BEEP* "You told me to call you (insert that clip of Joe grunting like a cave man)" lol
@@travihuncho nice Goonies reference with the name btw lol
I used to work with cacao producers in Ecuador. They were 1000s of small farmers screathing together a living but there was not slave Labour involved there. Sometimes some kids were involved but that is the old system of education. Kids would go out with their fathers and learn how the farm works. Vital knowledge if they want to keep it as independent families. In Latin America life for poor people is tough, it really has nothing to do with chocolate. They sell eggs, fruit and other products they produce too.
Duncan is an all-time legend on JRE
As soon as i see he is a guest i drop whatever i'm doing and turn on the episode. The costumes alone haha. Founding fathers was my fav so far.
@@bobloerakker7010 😂 the space suits are my personal favorite.
for real? ok buddy settle down.
Here is the full video that says it all:,
ruclips.net/video/rYbc5jCuz60/видео.html
Here is the recommended clip that says it all:,,
ruclips.net/video/rYbc5jCuz60/видео.html
“Jamie find out about chocolate” likes he’s gonna skim through 4000 years of history lol
He can do it. He knows all in thing google
I mean that’s exactly what google is
that was a pretty extreme request
@will G ?
"Jamie, look up chocolate"
I need a Jamie in my life
You misquoted the quote lol
@@Hannahsunshine- dw hes not even bright enough to use google like him lol!!!! xD
you have one its just a non binary person in ur phone called siri
Can we have a Jamie like an alexa
I was going to say that lol. "Jamie find out about chocolate"
bruh i need friends like joe and duncan!!!!!!!!! every conversation they have are perfectly aligned with the stuff im into !!!!! i need these type of conversations outside of the internet!!!!! lmao
To be in your 50’s dressed like that and getting paid for researching chocolate. This man has done the impossible
Bro aint it nuts they used to throw christains to the tigers just to watch. Thats like roman collosuem level "entertainment" 😂😂
I dont know why I found it so funny the way Joe said “Jamie, find out about chocolate.” its gotta be the serious tone of his voice while wearing that black cloak😂
Duncan is the best recurring guest. Every episode is solid.
could not disagree more
Abby Martin is a gem 💎
Honestly, I think I'd enjoy JRE more if it was just joe and Duncan every episode.
Bill Burr too, their friendship is so pure and hilarious. I do love the Duncan episodes though, in fact I go to sleep to them. This guys cool as hell
@Charlie Bravo what!?!? Duncan is the tits!! He’s so silly polite and weird
How is he just going to gloss over someone falling into a vat of chocolate 😅
What a way to die.
I think he was looking up a scene from Charlie and the chocolate factory.
He's high AF that's why
AUGUSTUS!
@SlaveLaboringKid fairly sure all American chocolate has puke flavor mixed in
I love how the podcasts with Duncan always include some sort of costume 😂
Definitely
“You just don’t think that when you’re eating a KitKat” lmao Duncan is a trip
That’s a fact.
Did you ever think that when eating KitKat before you have seen this video? If he's a trip he's a logical trip ;)
I laughed so hard when clip started, I almost died, he should always do shows in this outfit
I went to an cacao farm, owned & ran by an indigenous tribe in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica (Caribbean side). They did tours and allowed us to make our own chocolate. This should be a protected industry.
I went to Hershey, PA (seasonal side) and got to walk around a fake factory, exiting through the gift shop and got a free small "chocolate" bar. This should be boycotted by all!
Protected by you personally? who would you choose to protect it? How should they do this? Why and to what ends? How do you keep them accountable? How do you keep them from becoming the new exploiter?
How do you pay the protector? they need a wage to live. will you take a cut from the workers? or simply tell them to work harder for the same amount of pay to compensate?
@@BURNOUTRS the fucking company shells out of their deep pockets 😒
What do you mean protected?
Protecting the employees ....
There is an excellent documentary called the dark side of chocolate, which speaks in depth about this topic. In these slavery cases, there are large associated companies such as Nestle and Hershey, which have received multiple lawsuits.
The blame is on a few levels, though. The parents often sell or lend (in exchange for someone else accepting the burden of feeding and housing ) the kid. The orchard/plantation owners and managers (often black Africans) are partly to blame. I'd guess the middlemen who help broker deals between the orchard owners and Nestle and Hershey and other resellers are to blame. And, you and I are to blame (consumers) for helping to finance it. If chocolate is publicly traded or a commodity, then that industry is also to blame - including investors.
Joe just nailed the ‘is vs ought’ problem in the last couple of minutes
“A kit kat is 4 days work”. Wudda been hilarious if you seen him slowly raise one up and take a bite 😂
“Jamie… Find out about chocolate.”
..said no sober person, ever. Lol.
For me, These episodes are the backbone of JRE. Along with the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson episodes. Eddie bravo and later episode #911. The Annie jacobson and Bob lazars, I miss these types of episodes coming out as regularly as they once did just for the feeling of nostalgia they bring.
Now I have a different reason to feel guilty when eating chocolate.
You already wear clothes and shoes made by sweat shops and you use your phone on a daily basis made by chinese slave. You watch porn? Thats connected to sex trafficking. List goes on.
Buy fairtrade chocolate
Buy tonys chocoloney
lol, I love how the lights are off and they’re dressed up. We need more of this.
What I learned 15 years ago in high school was if everyone in the chain of making chocolate, got paid correctly. 1 single bar of chocolate would costs about $20.
It's cheap because of child & slave labor.
So what.
I call Bull… companies would make many millions instead of billions…
Fuck it is like $5 for a king size now, we are almost there.
I first got a chocolate wake up call when I moved to Hawaii and bought a $20 bar of chocolate from a small chocolate farm/factory in Kilauea. They charge that not only due to their operation costs but also because they are paying their employees a US wage. Slave labor on cacao farms overseas keeps costs down while the corporate owners make bank.
@@wendelleg2002
They would go out of business real fast
I will have to look this up too, to read about how chocolate is manufactured and made. Thank you for bringing this up because if this is true, the employees need to be protected.
The chocolate industry is not the only business where people suffer, and it is ignored. Again, thank you for bringing this up to remind those in our society, of what really transpires.
Don't just look up chocolate. Look at Nestle. They have a massive chocolate industry and water industry. Basically, if you switch off Nestle products, you're good to go
Here in Ghana (West Africa), I wouldn't describe the cocoa industry/farming/production as using slave or near slave labor, nor abusive child labor. Yes, children do help/work with their parents on farms. As a culture, children are tought and expected to help/work in some form everyday, be it at the house or on the family farm. As far as slave labor. The Ghananian Cocoa Board does a decent job of organizing and regulating the industry. With that being said. Like many people all around the world, the farmers get a very low rate for their crop. The government hasnt done a great job of building roads in those areas and transport of goods or the struggle to transport, further hurts the cocoa farmers. The farmers get by year to year (harvest to harvest), but, they are not thriving, no matter how hard they work.
$1 per day and having the whole family including kids, and barely scrapping by
It depends what you consider a slave... Obviously they arent slaves in terms of freedom but they are economic slaves. Not paying them proper or at least decent money for their work is sickening.
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Just went to Ghana for the first time last year for a research trip in November and that was one of the most intriguing aspects. Western views of child slavery in west Africa are wildly different than reality. Kids who did work on the farms had set roles (not clearing or major manual labour) and only did so outside of school. Though you bring up the interesting aspect of the cocobod. While necessary (small time Ghanaian chocolate farmers could not possibly sell on the open market at a fair price) it seemed that the cocobod took an unfair split of cocoa revenue and the excess money was mainly spent In the big cities (like Accra). Seems like a multifaceted problem but I think the core issue around chocolate is not the child slavery but rather the low prices and low pay of Ghanaian chocolate. Ghana is a beautiful country I certainly intend on going again
Wow already 2 people that know everything on this subject.
I work in a kitchen. We waste a lot of food because it's not up to our standards, which doesn't mean it's bad to eat. But the one thing I find unacceptable is the waste of chocolate. Chickens die for chicken, cows die for beef, humans die for chocolate, and many of them never taste a bite of it.
Chocolate, diamonds, flowers, fast fashion. I'm seeing a trend here... as if these industries cater to one demographic in particular 🤔
Woah man
Having a shitty past few days and while out on deliveries I see this come on my feed. Thank you so much you guys fucking rock together
that's why i find it nauseating when huge corporations preaching about something to common folks. they sounded so righteous and virtuous.
Jaime needs to launch an AI search engine app
Call it "Pull that up"
@@Marthyboy88 great name.
Perfect!
Young Jamie can't be replicated!
"We got Bohemian grove at home" B.grove at home:
CHOCOLATE!!! - guy from SpongeBob
this might be one of the funniest moments in jre history 0:12 the vague thing to look up and then the instant dismiss of what he found as if hes an idiot for selecting that. idk why but that just got me
I know when he said find out about chocolate I just pictured Jamie just sitting there racking his brain like fuck I mean cuz u be a lil more specific im sure I can find out tons of shit about chocolate
I just graduated with a degree in finance, one of the classes I had to take to graduate was a business ethics class, we spent about a month working on a project regarding the chocolate industry and we reached out to all the companies to try to get statements on it, crazy this type of shit happens and no one talks about it, none of the companies ever replied lol
Nobody even really gives a fuck either. It's accepted throughout society
@@boofert.washington2499 yep pretty much just summed up college right there
@@boofert.washington2499 they got experience doing it, you're just demonstrating your own ignorance while being a RUclips comment hate addict.
Yep! Me too. Poor uneducated ppl and children are exploited to the extreme and what’s really sad is that that life is normal to them when it shouldn’t be.
Yeah man, an email response from a company was TOTALLY the point of the entire class
There is a lot of slavery and child labor used in cacao farming. This has been known for decades.
This is something large chocolate companies also struggle with as efforts to abolish or even just reign this in have not worked well at all.
It is extremely difficult to guarantee that your chocolate does not include cacao from child and slave labor
chocolate is one of the last foods that I actually enjoy and participate in making. now I have to switch to hazelnuts, next you're going to have a podcast exposing the hazelnut industry
40 years of smoking weed heavily...never heard of or known anyone to have a "bad weed trip". The greed of the companies and the employee unions destroyed Detroit.
“ Jamie find out about chocolate “
I now regret the double chocolate cake covered in chocolate ganache that I just shoved down my gullet.
0:12 🗣️ “Jaimie find out about chocolate”. 😂🤣😂
Epic
I just feel like we all need to learn how to make the things we buy! From chocolate, to toothpaste, to shoes, to education. It’s all a trick! We should be able to find everything in our communities, from actual people not corporations. The more we encourage people to learn how to make our own stuff, the more we will be able to take our power back. We don’t have to go buy something if we deep down don’t want to! But ask yourself why it is that way!
That’s what they don’t want, that’s how they keep us in control. To an extent we’re all slaves to the governments. Some on higher levels than others I guess lol
Sadly, people don't want to work that hard.
Scale.
It’s awful that basically everything we have is sourced from some sort of tragic condition. Whether it’s the clothes we wear, the phones & electronics we enjoy, or even the food we eat. There’s always something wrong with the process somewhere in the lines of production, I wish it was as easy to stop it as it was to say it.
We just need the Star Trek replicator
@@boskostoybox I WISH lol
Well that’s because we are spoiled 1st world citizens. We as Americans are the nobles of the world, we are rich and fat and we consume the most media and the best tech. We have so little genuine issues that we’ve started to make up problems.
ok what joe doesnt understand is this when he says it would be better if things were built in america without any exploitation in africa and stuff, yes granted shifting everything inside would end active harm but it would create a much bigger problem of harm by neglect, that cocoa farmer at least earns 1 dollar a day, what would happen if that job went away? africa wouldnt create a domestic market magically, the cocoa farmer would just die instead. globalisation has probably pulled billions out of poverty, looking in is never the answer, let capitalism do its job.
@@Someone-nv1cj This is so true. I'm not stoked about the existence of child labor, but the notion that if these kids weren't working in the first place that they'd be frolicking through meadows is asinine. Why are these kids working in the first place? Their society is so unproductive that if they weren't working, the family would starve. This is precisely why it has existed throughout history. IIRC Oxfam did a study on what happened when Bangladesh tried to outlaw child labor. Children starved to death or went into prostitution.
“Coca” plants lol.
I've never heard someone refer to kids as 'little tiny unformed bodies' before.
A big part of the problem is people want to have the latest phones, t-shirts, TV's, cars etc. They think it will make them happier, but all it does is make them have to work harder to pay off the bigger and bigger debts they take out for the stuff they don't need.
Digging holes is the easy part, I imagine the chemicals they use are pretty gnarley... and the harvesting process
bring the show back to youtube. I barely use spotify.
He for sure will after reading this comment
I was a part of the avoiding spotify crowd for a while too until recently. I actually prefer Spotify in some ways since you can turn the phone screen off and still listen to it whereas RUclips won't do that. It's guests like Duncan that made me cave and finally download it
Strange it was only a couple of days ago I watched a RUclips video where a man took chocolate bars to those workers and none of them had ever even tasted chocolate, they were really surprised because the nuts themselves are really bitter so they always thought chocolate was extremely bitter.
That's bullshit
@@frankyakro246 why? There's loads of videos on RUclips that do the same thing
@chipsthedog1 I have lived in Ivory Coast for many years. Local chocolate is available here and its very cheap. The only problem here is the farmers don't get a fair price. When they started to complain, all this child labour BS started.
@@frankyakro246 well all the videos looked legit unless all those workers and farmers were acting for the camera, have. A search there's loads of videos doing the same thing
@chipsthedog1 The arrogance of your comment is breathtaking.
A Mars van rolls up*
"You kids want some candy jobs?"
lmao i can’t bro joe looking like a nun 😂😂😂
That's 🤣😂 bro.
wizard
there's an older YT documentary about this - little boys are made to work in the chocolate orchards and they don't go to school. At the very least, the owners of the orchards should make the boys go to school 4 hours a day - maybe during the hottest hours of the day. Often in Africa, the childrens' parents sell or lease their kids because they need the money to support their younger kids.
JRE guests have been awesome lately
Hershey's and Mars is good for doing this. I use to work at Lindt Chocolate and they make sure nothing like this happens on there cocoa farms. It's sad but this is what multi billion dollar companies do they don't care about the little penalties that they get fined or how many people die in a day/week/ or month.
I enjoy lindt chocolate 🍫
@@josippijaca8784 Yeah I worked for there plant in Stratham New Hampshire. When you get out of your car that's all you can smell in the air, and of course after your shift was over you went home smelling like chocolate as well. Plus they treat all there employees very well.
One would think no one cares about the fine bro, who wants to prodice chocolate off slave labor? The fine is nothing bro the social stigma from that will be much much worse 😂
I like how Duncan quoted carrine jean Pierre dropping that top of mind line
Duncan Trussell is like Joe rogan dark mode. Perfect to just chill and fall asleep
Joe Ro and chill, 😂
As for an ethical phone solution - you could try buying a phone, taking out the battery and reselling it, and then using the phone always plugged to a charger. Less convenient, but cobalt-free.
Here in Nebraska they just just busted a huge Child trafficking ring involving child labor for cleaning slaughter houses
The beans are grown in Ghana but chocolate can't be made there due to the temperatures and lack of refrigeration.
Duncan and Joe are magic.
Duncan's breakdown of the weed hit is accurate. If you're worried about anything; financial, relationship, news you heard, etc. Can be anything. If you smoke weed while your mind is mostly focused on something heavy, your high will turn into anxious/paranoia. That's why your first few smoke sessions sucked. Get your mind right no matter the circumstances, then smoke.
its so fucking weird. when press secretary said "top of mind" everyone was like "Wtf kind of phrase is that?"
but now i hear people saying it frequently
I'm from Ghana 🇬🇭, and no one is dying in Ghana from farming cocoa. They are not getting what they deserve tho.
Cocoa farmers use their kids and young men in the neighborhood.
More slaves in today’s time than there were 200 years ago
Love you Joe rogan stay blessed
I'd give anything to meet Joe Rogan. My son passed 11/19/21 and he loved Joe Rogan. Would love to meet him some day
“Jamie, find that about Chocolate.”
😂😂😂
i hope Norway uses their newly discovered cobalt depot for good, extract it professionally etc
watching this on my phone eating a chocolate bar .... 😂
I never felt sick about chocolate before.
I need to find ethically sourced chocolate right now because I like my chocolate milk.
Wtf is he wearing? 🤣
Gandalfs Winter Collection Free Flowing Cloaks 😂🤣😂
Oh excuse the pun referring to LOTR
It’s called fashion, bro.
@@Jesse_Lee_ hahahaha. 🤣
I stopped eating it.
I've boycotted Hershey after getting reports about them not paying for the beans. 100's of millions of dollars past due.
As the candy bars, more than noticeably have shrunk, as the price is $3 a bar.
Bottom line, corporations don't give one f* about anybody. Consumed in greed.
Stop buying their products and force the change.
I'm ripped and when he said, "Jamie, find out about chocolate." I lost it... hahaha.
Literally eating chocolate while listening to this on my phone. Not sure what to do
Hot chocolate is the premium drink in all major organisations, apple have their own hot chocolate, so do Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook etc. That is because these organizations know how long the chocolate industry will last, I wouldn't be surprised if chocolate becomes a premium in the next few decades
i really felt what duncan said about weed making you think about stuff you actively ignore... i quit weed because it makes me think about how much heroin i do.
"You just don't think that, do you, when you are eating a kit kat?!" "A kit kat is a day's work..." Duncan. Unplugged from smart phone four months ago, (got tired of AI raking all my data and trends, that was the final straw.) However I do have a semi smart flip. Unplugging from apps is highly underrated.
1:22 already I know I need to watch this whole episode. Now back to the show.
An excellent reason to chill on the sweets; appreciate this info
workers fall into chocolate vat "that's not it"
Why is Joe dressed like Darth Sidious
He must be a star wars fan.
This show is just incredible
Actually, you don't need it. This past week I shared a few hours with a Gentleman in West Virginia who has been willingly walking a more "proper" path for decades. His Brother, is a legit & respected touring musician yet, this man finds his Peace & Purpose through the simplicity of his days. It's admirable to me yet, I am not allowing myself to remove the shit that is necessary to leave behind to acquire that kinda vast perspective & harmony.
Me eating a kitkat while watching my phone:🤡
I've heard the word 'chocolate' so many times in this video that I don't even know what it means anymore.
love their episodes together
i remember a story about indian tea farms, and people(child laborers) go out there and spray the fields with pesticide and die because they dont have protective equipment.
to be fair the cocao pods are like the perfect height to be harvested by children.
This is The Screwtape Letters of JrE episodes
What he said about ignorance hit me so hard
Digging holes builds character.
Detroit pulled most of the automobile companies 40 years ago. My dad used to work for the automotive company in Michigan called bud. They closed up when I was 12 years old and my family moved back to Florida.
Next time someone say something about AI "stealing" ideas, let's talk about how humans still use slavery to make the phones you use from America to India, from China to South Africa.
I love seeing Duncan's face in a dark thumbnail
Everywhere in the world, Production of any kind, from your shoes to cloths to any electronic gadgets just anything that is being made by man there's a human suffering immensely producing that UNWILLINGLY!
Love the content and wish you the best of luck for the future including editor
"Chocolate!...sweet sweet chocolate. I remember when they first invented CHOCOLATE....I AMWAYS HATED IT!"