Nothing wrong with using older technology. “Mad jack” Churchill was a british officer in ww2 who went into battle with a long bow and a sword, because “an officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed”. Maybe this jedi just thinks that this is what he should be using, because it is the historic weapon of the order.
There are still weapons in the galaxy that can hold their own against lightsabers. And considering The High Republic is a period of expansion, there’s no telling what type of warriors the Jedi would meet on their journeys. Also, we don’t yet know of The Niall’s capabilities beyond their use of lightspeed. Perhaps maybe even some Jedi may go to their side?
The echani vibroswords are an excelent exemple..their world in the prequel is in an unknow states as far As I know..but whos to say they arent around more in the high republic? Also..trandoshian use bladed weapon that are known to be a match to lightsaber as well and I think those big fat guards in hutt palaces,their axes are made in materials able to resist lightsaber strike to a certain point if im not mistaken..the cathar as well..
@@TuckBolt Beskar is too scarce though due to centuries of mining by the Mandos. It's the given explanation why Mando armor tends to be less protective in most cases (like in the Clone Wars animated show) than it otherwise would be if made fully of beskar.
I like the Style, and the Ideas of the High Republic. However if they wanted this time to be during that Thousands years of the Republic. This Era should have been 200 years after the New Sith Wars (So 800 years ago) Here's Why. It better explains why the Republic is now exploring the outer rim. Because their re-discovering it after a dark age, and the Fall of the sith Empire, who controlled the outer rim. It also gives more freedom for New character's, Conflict, and lore without it seeming out of place. But despite that I can't wait to read Light of the Jedi.
You're right. And they'd start transitioning out of their cross guards and curved hilts, as there are no more Sith. I'd say 200 years of no war would spark the idea of "we won for good, now we adapt". They must've just started to let their guard down, so it'd be a slow process.
At first I was very against the idea of the high republic, when they gave out the idea of like 300 years ago I think it was, I was furious, I was like “that’s nonsensical and even within actual canon it’s mentioned the republic has stood for a thousand years” but the idea that this is coming out of the dark ages proceeding the new sith wars actually sits very well with me, I like that
I can't remember where I heard this but at this point in Republic, a Jedi's lightsaber was mostly ceremonial as rhey had not fought Sith in 800 years. Jedi would have lightsaber presentations and "show-off" their skills at ceremonies. Maybe once they start fighting against real threats instead of being largely sage mediators they will realize the crossguard design needs to be retired...
I strongly disagree. It' better for stories like this to explored during superficial "peacetime" because that drives home the importance of political subterfuge within the scope of the Star Wars universe. We saw exactly what the Jedi were like right before the Galactic Civil War -- remember the diplomatic mission Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan undertook at the beginning of TPM? We need more of that, please. Because even during a more civilized age, war is always on the horizon. The High Republic is the golden era of the Republic, but it's on the precipice of collapse. We know how it eventually crumbles.
@Napo ski They won't be different? That's perfect! That's exactly what we want. We otherwise couldn't tell the story about how the Republic and Jedi are failing well before the period of the films then, could we? Let's face it... Dooku: A Star Wars Story is what we all want, but that isn't happening.
@@dylanwight5764 the issue isn't when the high republic is set time wise exactly it's that in the time period they have chosen this style of Light Sabre wouldn't have been in use. As after the Russaun Reformation & the Sith Rule of Two coming into affect very few Jedi would be fighting against enemies using bladed weapons on mass, the average Jedi would be coming up against blasters. So the simple hilted Sabre style is a much easer to deflect blaster bolts without the cross guard risking getting caught on clothing or any other risk
@@seanp5600y That's never stopped Jedi or Sith from constructing elegant weapons for a more fabulous age. If the idea is that this lightsaber design is controversial in-universe _because_ it's so outlandish and goes against the norm, then it's the perfect set piece for High Republic, especially during a time frame when the galaxy is relatively peaceful and a decadent decline is starting to set in.
"The art style is different, and it doesn't make sense." Artists don't like being tied to an art direction that is pushing 50 years old. Of course projects will appear that put their own visual spin on it. I'm surprised it took this long, to be honest.
The point is that they're tasked with a job, and they're not adhering to what they're supposed to operate within. Imagine if you will, a bunch of artists being brought in to design visuals for something set in the Iron Age, and they deliver concepts and designs that hadn't been used since the end of the Stone Age / the start of the Bronze Age. Imagine someone being tasked with designing weapons used by late-Medieval knights, and turning in designs that are more fitting of the Holy Roman Empire instead. What's a French knight in steel plate armor going to do with a Gladius that can't hold an edge? What's a Jedi going into blaster bolt deflection going to do with a saber that's purpose-built for saber dueling?
dosn't matter, they did not make the universe its there jobs to respect it. love the art style but they could have still done it but at a different time in the universe. everyone wants the old republic they could and should have just done that and there would be literally no problems here.
New spin is not the same as stupid. But I can understand many things. We'll see how the story goes. I just hope this won't be another SW8-9 type of spin.
@@keevajazz6286 Now i dont like Disney Star wars but this annoys me: When TFA came out we all said it was like ANH now The High Republic is made and its not the same as the Old Republic your annoyed? If were going to complain we need to be consistent or they wont be able to improve it and make good quality SW!
@@CV-Moore As I said aside from design I don't see a difference Any form of cross guard is an improvement to the lightsaber A lightsaber is just a sword and depending on skill it can be just as dangerous to the user as it is to the opponent
@@wyattguilliams9472 cross guards are not just to protect the hand from the opponent but to protect your hand from slipping down the blade. Not a big deal with slashes but for thrusts it becomes an issue. So this cross guard opens up a little bit of thrusting for the combat. Can you say, phalanx? Or if not that level of formation ar least a bit of a shield wall or something like that. More regimented combat styles and less of the "everyone breaks off into a number of duals" stuff but actual group combat. But yeah high republic would be the wrong era for this light saber.
@@darrenskjoelsvold Look at the design of kylo ren's lightsaber There are two stubs from which the "blade" cross guard extends so thrusting is not a problem for him and his gloved hands Fairly warm I'm sure but not a problem so again Aside from design I don't see a difference between them
I would love to See a fully armored Republic soldiers fighting along side sith troopers against the enternal empire. I like the old Republic Armor from those time the best.
Vibroblades cant sword fight with lightsabers anywhere outside of video games. Even there they relied on some cortosis nonsense to make it plausible and cortosis was essentially unknown or unavailable in the time period in question. In any rational interpretation of the Starwars universe in the era we are talking about, lightsabers cut through vibroblades like they aren't even there.
@@benjaminboyle7329 cortosis was know and in use but by very very few and it was extremely rare so kinda a coin flip really but even then theres limits due to how a single glancing blow from a saber would do a lot of damage to the enemy
@@ThatGenericPyro I think a more appropriate takeaway on this might be the age group of the original artist at the time of conception (when you think about the chronology, how the scabbard design looks like it would function, details like that). That a kid would come up with something like this? Awesome. That a TEAM of professionals with several layers of supervision and (theoretically, based on Disney's earlier claims in de-canonizing what is now Legends) a team of continuity editors would come up with it is kind of embarrassing.
'IF' the Jedi are advertising themsevles and are trying to look cool to gain favor in the public... then it makes some sense. Not a whole lot of sense but some.
You're right about how it would give the jedi a distinct aesthetic for people to remember. Then why not continue that design if they were banking on that image. Because clearly at some point the Jedi abandoned the cross-guard design in favor for a traditional lightsaber. Maybe it was because they realized that crossguarded lightsabers were not as good at deflecting blaster bolts then regular designed lightsabers. But still the image of the original Jedi would stick in people's minds similarly to how the image of nobility, honor and knights stook in people's minds to this day. (Edit) also when people think of knights they think of long swords, and since knights are connected with honor and nobility long swords are also connected with honor and nobility.
MR. Maestro There is only so much you can do with a lightsaber before it gets a little stupid(Helicopter blades) it’s less the actual function of the saber that is new and more the actual design that is. These light sabers have a Arthurian assetic and look to them and a more ceremonial approach that is quite new, where as Kylo’s saber was very practical.
it appears to hold the lightsaber at three points and the lightsaber 'sticks' to those points. It is also more extravagant than a d-ring or similar style that has the saber swing freely from a single point. Fits the Jedi of this Era well.
@@honorableundead2273 by this point, i wouldn’t be surprised. Tho i think they’d have to go with an Axe first, considering i think that’s already canon but not once been used, just kept shelved, but i mean, mechquest did the energy scythe real well, for a game anyways
I like the Claymore long sword design but you are correct Lore there are no Sith at the time of 200 years before the Battle of Yavin 4. Not sure if Lucasfilm is making another huge mistake in this new series but we will see.
If I remember correctly Stellan Gios was more of a scholar and teacher, rather than an out and about warrior. So it is possible that he deliberately chose an ancient design due to his fascination with history and since he wouldn't actually fight blaster-wielding opponents that often due to rarely leaving the Temple. Which is supported by the fact that he seems to be the only one who uses a cross-guard design while everyone else uses the single-bladed version. Also, is it just me, or has Lucasfilm been kinda hesitant to have the Jedi fight Sith? First Snoke and Kylo Ren was confirmed not to be Sith, now we got the Nihil
Honestly, if I were a Jedi, I would definitely go with a design like this no matter how old fashioned and out of date it is. I think the disadvantage against blasters compared to a guardless saber is overstated. Though, I would make the hilt a bit more oval, rather than just circular. It's a better fit in the hand and allows for better blade indexing. While not important for the cut, and not important at all for guardless sabers, it would matter for the orientation of the crossguards. Oh, and smooth it out, get rid of those ridges. And change the shape of the pommel to allow for a more comfortable grip. Basically just give it a traditional longsword hilt, that projects a lightsaber blade.
Yea I was thinking the same thing, Everyone else has standard sabers in the art. This lightsaber actually gives me Dooku vibes. It has an almost royal look to it, and its appearance and quirks imply that its wielder is focused on dueling or saber-v-saber combat.
To be fair if they try and make every lightsaber into an Excalibur I’d be pissed there is only one Excalibur with two sister blades in all arthuian mythos
I'd be lying if I said this design isn't kinda cool but the time period all this stuff is set in just screws it all up. Like it was said in the video 200 years is nothing in the Star Wars universe, dozens of named species in that universe can easily live up too and well beyond 200 years, technology advances so slowly things should be pretty much exactly the same as they are in The Phantom Menace. Hell, Yoda has been in the Jedi Order and had the rank of Master for nearly 800 years before The Republic became The Empire, he may even be the Grand Master of the Order still with only a piddling 200 year time difference. This High Republic time should have been about 100 years after the formation of The Republic, well before all the corruption and money/power mongering started to seep into the Senate, everyone is still jazzed about its formation with folks being much better off than they were and those that aren't are being reaced out to, the Jedi Order still being the knights in shining armour who helped create The Republic and still have to defend it occasionally from the remnants of the Sith and other criminals.
@@wearywolfkins4755 I may be wrong, but I think you have to train a padawan to knighthood and be worthy to become a master. Since he already had to be a knight to train a padawan, and it takes about 20 years to become a knight, we can assume he began training about 40 years before he was a master, meaning he was 60 as a youngling.
It depends on how they right the changes. It being very ceremonial over practical during this High Republic to the Phantom Menace is believable, as there is no technology changes really, just a change in design focus.
@@nevermore7285 Also the "No Wars" thong COULD just mean there's been no MAJOR wars small scale wars or wars without a formal declaration could very easily happen! Perhaps a loop hole that allows planets to use there Defence Forces in wars and it not be CLASSED as a war due to no formal deceleration for propaganda reasons to make it seem like the Republic is a peaceful place?
inb4 a major plot point in the story iss yoda insisting that the blade must be kept cross because thats how they did it for hundreds of years, its a tradition. or the high republic thinks the sith will return.
Looking back on this video after learning exactly who Stellan Gios is and how his lightsaber works, I can safely say that Stellan typically stays in the temple. He likes teaching to younglings, and he would spend a lot of time duelling other Jedi. This means that his lightsaber is often ornamental, and not so usually used against blasters.
honestly the thing i hate the most about this whole thing is lucas based the jedi on samurai which is why the saber looks like it does. giving it a crossguard makes it look far to European which in itself is not bad but it makes the saber look more midlevel/fantasy and less scifi. the light saber was based on katanas which was a good choice because the unique look of katanas gave light sabers a sorta alien feel to them. now they look to familiar and not nearly as unique. i mean dont get me wrong the saber would be alright if it was a single knights saber and the design was meant to reflect his character in some way. that way it would be unique and the other sabers would keep their unique design. but giving it to the entire order removes the uniqueness of this design and makes all the other sabers less unique aswell. they should have just let kylo ren be the only one with it or have given it to very few jedi during the high republic. maybe only give it to jedi council members as a sign of their station and have the story for why kylo uses one century's later be because he wants to prove he was better than even the strongest jedi and that saber design was the only historical indication that you were one of the strongest jedi. they could have said the reason they got rid of the design was because the council felt that having a symbol of their status was to boastful.
Katanas still had tsuba for hand protection. Lucas also originally envisioned all sabers as white, then later changed his mind to white for normal people, blue for jedi, red for sith, and then later had the idea of them being force imbued.
@Songo Sun im sure most of them probably just watched one or two of the movies after being hired for the job. honestly i think its safe to say that rian never watched the original trilogy due to his fundamental misunderstanding of lukes character and you could also argue that he did not watch the prequals due to his fundamental misunderstanding of the jedi order and its philosophies, the amount of training required to learn to use the force, and the importance of a lightsaber to a jedi and how it is not just a tool to be thrown away but an embodiment of who that jedi is as a person and is as important to them as their lives. honestly the second luke threw away his fathers saber in the beginning i almost and should have walked out of the theater. that was the only thing he had to remember his father and furthermore was the only thing left from his fathers time as a jedi. it was the last thing of anakin skywalker jedi knight he had and he threw it away like a piece of garbage. even kylo ren has more respect for vaders things then luke has for anakins things.
@Songo Sun yeah i was originally not even gonna go see it because of how much tfa pissed me off but a friend invited me cuz he just started getting into star wars and i decided id go with him since i never got to see one of the movies with a friend before cuz none of my friends liked star wars. there was a few times where i would have walked out if i was alone but i did not want to leave him their. funny thing is after he saw it he thought it was good because he had just gotten into with the clone wars animated series and did not know that much about the franchise. he asked my opinion and i told him every thing about it that pissed me off but he could not understand why it made me so mad. after a few years and learning more about the franchise though he called me up and was like "dude now i see what you meant when you said that was the worst star wars movie ever". this interaction with him made me realize that the difference between people who like the last jedi and people who hate it is not how much they like the star wars franchise rather its how much they understand it. and my personal belief is that fans like a franchise but true fans like and understand a franchise. for example i like thor and captain America and consider myself a fan of them. but i could not for the life of me explain why cap cant hold thores hammer and i know theirs people out their that could go into detail as to why exactly cap is not worthy. i am a fan but they are the true fans. so i might like some of the marvel movies that they hate because i am not knowledgeable enough about the material to understand how much the studio is fing it up.
This could be cool. They could think they’d re fighting a simple group of dark Jedi or ex-Jedi-turned pirate or something, only for the Sith who kept their order alive behind the scenes to be pulling the strings. But the main characters would have to not notice or not grasp that the Sith still existed, for it to make sense with the continuity. I also think this would be a really good era for the Chiss to make their full-scale return to canon. What if, instead of a “full scale war”, there was a short period of a galactic Cold War, with tensions between the Republic and Chiss with some Jedi serving as covert operators and spies? You could even give some elite Chiss soldiers their own versions of the lightsaber or another bladed melee weapon, so that the Jedi anticipating lightsaber combat would make sense. The series could be about the Jedi stopping plots to draw the two powers into a full scale war, with the strings secretly being pulled by a secretive Sith Lord who seeks to cause a destructive conflict without revealing himself and create an opportunity for the Sith to return. It could basically be the Cold War thriller of the Star Wars universe.
I think the High Republic and Old Republic are two seperate eras and we'll get a old republic era storyline. I also believe lore may be looking at it wrong, the sith dont exist, but that doesn't mean lightsaber users dont exist. Look at the knights of ren, they werent sith, though they were influenced, but they used lightsabers. So it could factions like that.
The High Republic and Old Republic are most definitely two separate eras, separated by thousands of years I believe. Also, the Sith do still exist during the time of the high republic, though they are still in the shadows under the rule of two and did not reveal themselves. If the Sith did reveal themselves to a Jedi during this time it would break the lore surrounding it, unless they leave no survivors or evidence of course. Also the Knights of Ren didn't use lightsabers.
Agreed. 800 years would have made more sense. I'm pretty sure the only reason they set it so close to the Phantom Menace is so that they would have an excuse to still include familiar characters, the familiar character in this instance being Yoda.
"20-25 thousand year timeline" ya, in legends maybe. I know it suck, but Disney is making their own extended universe that will inevitably override legends cannon. Also, just because they're gonna be fighting lightsaber wielding opponents, doesn't mean they'll be fighting sith. They might explore other force using factions.
The Jedi Order existed for "a thousand generations" according to Obi-Wan, so yes, it IS canon that they have existed for about 20,000 years. Also, with Revan and Andeddu being canon in Disney's lore, it's confirmed once again that the Jedi/Sith conflict goes back for thousands of years before the High Republic. Revan lived about 4000 BBY, Andeddu up to 3000 years before Revan
This saber looks great, I'd personally like one. As for it being out of place lore-wise, it could be a relic passed down in his family or perhaps a symbol of office as a "round table knight"
I like the idea of delving into the high republic. I'm going to go into it with the same open mind that I went into the post-Disney movies. The one thing that I feel we can strongly count on is that they will find a way to make lightsaber combat frequent enough to keep us satisfied.
If the High republic was set like 1000 years before the old republic I'd actually be very happy as it allows for the old republic to make its way back into canon at some point. At this point almost everything Disney has made has felt like a poorly written fanfic done by someone who has no familiarity with the old eu or just outright hates it.
This is made by the lucasfilm creative group. Most of the same team that gives the new novels and rebels and have been veterans since George. Let's give them chance to correct what the Disney execs done with the movies.... Creating a good story. 😁
I've read horribly horrendous fanfic's w/ way more detail storytelling & compelling characters than that of anything that of the Disney Version of Star Wars Cannon has ever come up w/.
@@joshuagraham5750 Sorry. You're right about that. It would still make more sense for thr High Republic to take place well before KOTOR's timeframe in my opinionion, but maybe I'm quite biased due to my attachment to the SW I grew up with.
I feel like the high republic is gona be one of those small things that's just, I might watch it, maybe, and is basically just some kids running around with sabers fighting criminals and that's it.
You would expect extravagant lightsabers pre Ruusan Reformation, because during the Golden Age of the Republic the Jedi were very orthodox although they did not lack for arrogance. Both contributed to their downfall.
I think the new lightsaber is awesome, one of the best I've ever seen. And I disagree about it not making sense in terms of the lore. All they said was that the sith weren't around for a millennia. But that doesn't mean we won't see a new group of enemies with lightsabers.
The Excalibur orientation saber might be needed in the event of ancient swords be discovered, as state in legends and other sources heavily enchanted weapons were actually more powerful than a standard light saber, but extremely difficult to produce. Also vibrio blades and heat swords are still popular, they just don’t get showed often in the mainstream movies or series. A good example are the clones in the bad batch season, where they use vibro knives and heat blades to tear through D type droids.
It could be a possibility that Stellan adopted the crossguard saber based on personal preference much like Dooku with the curved hilt. And for all we know, Stellan may have had the same kind of ideas that Dooku had in terms of the possibility of the Sith's return.
Bill McLaughlin perhaps but why would many others believe the same thing as him... Because there are many more cross-guard hilts in this era than in Dooku’s where only him and a rare few having a curved hilt...
@Dar-Nak Kallig The way I see it, perhaps there had been cases with Dark Jedi had caused some havoc and perhaps a few of them claimed to be Sith. Perhaps at that point in time, they had some concern about the possibility of the Sith's return before they outright accepted that the Sith were gone.
Bill McLaughlin to me the Dark Jedi thing has more validity than the paranoia of the Sith’s return. The Sith have been gone for 800 years during the druggy Republic the thought of the Sith returning being widespread in the Jedi at that time seems a bit too fast to jump from Paranoid about the Sith returning to the Sith have been extinct for a millennia... The Dark Jedi thing could happen any day of the week if the Jedi aren't careful
I think the cross guard's ability to fold in makes it potentially a more versatile saber than a standard straight hilt or stand cross guard. You can use either setting depending on the situation, but that depends on whether the writers actually use that idea or not. I think there will be light saber battles in this era just because you can't have star wars without them, the era is a little restrictive but they have plenty of ways to work with it still.
I definitely see your concern. I'm curious what the characters reasoning will be with this cool reveal though. It's a definitely restrictive era, but I think that's not a bad thing. It forces a level of creativity to work within the limits. I'm all for this era! I'm a Old Republic fan to the core, and I'd be a little meh if it was just more of the same jedi vs with war. That, and it gives them time to take care worth doing any old republic. I've always wondered about this closer era and hype to experience it!!!
To me everything that happened 1000 to 5000 years before when the initial trilogy is what I care for that and what happens in legends after the defeat of the emperor. The thousand years of bane's rule of two where the sith were in hiding I care about but not what happens in the general republics history and jedi history.
I think its pretty dope, makes more sense than the standard crossguard saber, also im hyped for high republic idk why its gotten so much hate and push back, its literally not even out yet 🙄
@Joseph Douek those were storyboards, theres literally no concrete evidence that any of that was gonna be in the story at all, and even if it was it wouldn't be a big deal, they'd be side creatures, and there's plenty of dinosaur looking creatures in star wars already so idk wym
What I don't like about the high republic is that it's only 200 years before the movies. In SW that's nothing. There are too many things too different from the movies for it to be only 200 years apart. Should be more like 2000 years.
Honestly I think who ever is wielding this lightsaber it's going to be one of two things. 1. They built it because they are wanting saber combat , so they are preparing for it. 2. I think this is more likely, this will be a grand masters saber, and it will be basically ceremonial, made to look pretty not be functional and embodying an older time.
My theory is that during the high republic being that it was like the round table they were dedicated to being prepared for the return of something aka the sith. So In that time they used crossgaurd sabers until eventually realizing that it was unnecessary and eventually went back to normal and became more of a cerimonial weapon for a time
The High republic era is a bit restrictive but there is some room where you can be very creative. As you mentioned Dookie anticipated the return of the Sith. So he built his Saber based on that theory. Maybe the character that wields this saber built his Saber based on that same theory. Plus we the fans have the advantage of knowing that the Sith are lurking in the shadows. Maybe there are some Jedi who encountered them. But didn’t live to tell the tale. Great vid.
I'm just worried how much they can screw up the SW universe. I think Darth Tenebrous's Twi'ilek master might be the Sith Lord in this era. He made the Jedi aware of the Dark Side after centuries. It's a big deal. If they make another Rey bs story I will stop going to the theaters.
I could think of 2 ways the wielder could get around your issues with this design: 1) he could use it in tandem with a lightsaber more suited for parrying blaster fire or a dedicated energy shield, mounted to the wrist or something of the sort 2) this lightsaber change modes with the crossguard allignment into a mode more suited for parrying blaster fire or it could have a full on shield mode. This design could also add more applications like different blade shapes instead of just a straight sword shapes for varying situations
Ha! Very early this year a couple of nerds and HEMA people had been talking about making lighsabres more fence-able on a very obscure forum. What we came up with was a sword with a crossguard, but also with some rear cover to protect your hands from the energy, exactly like this one. There were also ideas like light-bucklers and knuckle bow guard sabres, the same as historical examples. Either great minds think alike, or someone from the dev team had been there too. Personally I'd love a lightsabre with an L- style Polish hussar guard and a finger ring!
This is a very wholesome video. I don't think people realize just how erratic sword design was, especially in europe. in less than three hundred years the side sword, a battlefield weapon, evolved first into the rapier, then lost most of it's hilt and shortened into the small sword, then finally into the french dueling sword which was the art that gave rise to modern sport fencing less than a century later.
Looks far too awkward for my liking. It's too gaudy and overdesigned, not to mention we've already seen that crossguards don't need physical attachments to work.
Well story/lore wise Dooku designed his rapier-like hilt, precisely for dueling vs other lightsaber users waaay before he turned to the dark side, so its not like the first time we have a lightsaber designed that doesnt theoretically match the story. Can be a design from jedi's homeworld, omage to a waaay older design (as you know, they do design those as kids in lore). And apart of that, rule of cool applies. It looks cool, it gives the "knightly" vibes especially with the holster. It "clicks" when you look at it. EDIT: Also its not like 200y before phantom menace there were no sith. They were hiding, sure, but doesnt mean they werent there. Either they were really good as it, or simply noone who discovered them lived long enough to tell the tale.
They were hiding so well that everybody, including the Jedi Council, believed them to be extinct. Remember their reaction when Qui-Gon said he thought he had encountered a Sith?
as soon as they announced the high republic was taking place only 200 years before phantom menace i thought they just screwed themselves due to the sith not being around at the time. The only way I could see it being good is if they make it where the jedi do find the sith and end up dying before stopping them and Yoda either learns of their existence but thought they were so dwindled down and not a threat he ignored their existence and pretended like he never found out and or he thougt they were dead after he faced themself leading him and the then grand master being the only surviviors and the then grand master saw the strength and heroics yoda did, retired and made him grand master
This series is going to be very boring, the name is Star *Wars* for a reason. Also, since it isn’t that important as it was never mentioned in any other canon stuff other than the high Republic itself, it’s going to be very lack luster in action.
General Grievous it’s my opinion, you should atleast be able to handle that without mocking me, makes your rebuttal look bad, and the Old Republic was mentioned in the OT by Obi Wan, LOL. Nice, dude.
General Grievous also, the high Republic wasn’t far before the Clone Wars, only 300 years. Meaning, it should’ve had some kind of effect on the prequel trilogy, but no, it didn’t.
I wouldn't go so far as to say talking out of his arse but some of his points, I feel are certainly misguided. While there were no Sith during the High Republic, as far as the Jedi or anyone else knew at that time, that doesn't mean to say that there were absolutely no lightsaber wielding opponents. Jedi and Sith haven't been the only example of lightsaber wielding, Force sensitive organisations throughout Star Wars history, furthermore, the Jedi of the High Republic were no less susceptible to the allure of the dark side than Jedi of any other time period. I believe it entirely possible that some may, during that time have lost their way, while this may only have been in small and isolated cases it still serves to illustrate the fallacy of stating that there absolutely were no lightsaber wielding opponents in that era.
@@allieridgeway3670 For the most part there weren't lightsaber wielding enemies. The Jedi of that era really only practiced among themselves. This is why Dooku was the only user of form 2, Makashi. Makashi was a form specialized for lightsaber v lightsaber combat and it was a dead art by the time of the prequals. Many Jedi mastered the form on their way to mastering all 7 of them but none of them bothered fighting with it in actual combat, even when faced with the Sith of the prequals. It sounds like you guys have some reading up to do on the lore before you start spouting off things like the OP is misguided or talking out of his ass.
I like the idea of the blade and hilt design being a reference to the particular Jedi Knight being more traditional. Where following older customs and traditions have greater importance for them than simplicity or function. The writers for these stories have an opportunity to build on how people from certain worlds can have particular traits or preferences which are more common from that world. The best example I can think of for something like this was in the Star Wars Legends book “I, Jedi” which explained how Jedi Knights from the Corellian system had unique characteristics like their devotion or some lacked the ability for telekinesis. So a planet with more focus on tradition over function is an interesting concept.
So, without mincing words, The High Republic sounds like a hot-garbage concept, given when it's set. If these were the Jedi of the formation of the Old Republic? Sure, that'd work great. Have these predate Revan and Bane and so on. But to the topic at hand: If this singular cross-guard Excalibur lightsaber was one of a kind, and was meant more as a symbolic weapon than one used regularly (as this implies), sure, fine. It's a beautiful aesthetic design. But the problem is the same with other cross-guard style sabers as we've seen them; even if the thing was made with cortosis or beskar and could withstand a few lightsaber strikes, the prongs that ignite the cross saber blades is still a vulnerability; hell, even if the Kylo Ren styled lightsaber weren't vents, but actual two small blades, THAT design is more practical in-so-far as you would have to damage the hilt to extinguish them (which is relatively easy to do with these sorts of designs). What would be far more effective is if these blades were more like Kylo Ren's vents, but were angled towards the base of the blade, forming a connected, triangular, and therefore thicker base of the blade. Sure it still suffers from weak point of the end of the vents, but at least then if a strike is made against those inclined planes, it will slide down and away from the center point, and therefore, further away from the hilt and wrists of the wielder, and would still give it that more exotic, but primative broadsword aesthetic they're trying to go for.
The show being set during the high republic era mean: 1- any red blade shown mean the opponent dies and the body is never found (exept for sith who train with such). 2- we get a sith infiltrating the republic subplot. 3- "have you ever heard of the accention of Darth Plagueis the wize"
I'm extremely excited about High Republic because this is also part of the time of the outpost and the great disaster and I'm excited to see if either of those will be mentioned, not to mention a time period without much influence from the sith or dark side but of exploration which more borders into the star trek side of space lol
The Side small sabers actually can be quite handy, especially if the main saber can be turned off. Pick Axe? Also this new saber design can be used as a dagger, while turned off.
I'm curious to see how it all plays out, with the Jedi fending off attacks of espionage with a lot of spy stories in a time of peace, or maybe it paints the Jedi as ironclad "peace at any cost" type of gray, or maybe it's just a bunch of Jedi enjoying the most peaceful era in Star Wars. Hard to say until the stories are told lol
Most people probably remembered the terror that the sith brought and just thought "I ain't dealing with this" and just thought a dueling type lightsaber would be helpful
Remember that lightsabers were personally built by their wielders, not serial production, so having an outlier like this is not only possible, but expected. In the same way that medieval knights had a general format that most had their longswords made to, but there were outliers which were significantly different from the norm
Nice, I was going to make the same point about their not being light saber opponents. There is also the issue the cross guard is not needed due to the magnetic fields that holding the plasma do not slide easily on one another. AND every disarment/amputation would have happened regardless of a cross guard. All that said it does look kind of cool.
I believe in another of your videos you mentioned that at that time lightsabers were hardly used outside social events. When jedis would show off by dueling each other in front of the fancy folk.
This is the major issue, I think. It’s like the decision to have Yoda in the mix forces their hands in where they wanted to place the new fiction. Without Yoda, they could have gone anywhere with this. But since Yoda has to be involved, they had to do it in a time period that just doesn’t make sense. I like Yoda, but come on. He’s been in six movies, a TV series, and who knows how many books and comics over the past 43 40 years. Let the guy rest.
I usually imagine myself if I was a Jedi using two lightsaber pretty much like Ahsoka with a shoto lightsaber in the left hand, but seeing this Excalibur lightsaber...uff I think that I'm just going to wield a single lightsaber haha.
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Nothing wrong with using older technology. “Mad jack” Churchill was a british officer in ww2 who went into battle with a long bow and a sword, because “an officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed”.
Maybe this jedi just thinks that this is what he should be using, because it is the historic weapon of the order.
Dankula man I take it.
I hope that the story writers are thinking around this same way, and make it fit in canon well
[@Samael] That's one of my favorite WWII accounts.
I mean, they used a Swordfish to damage and cripple the Bismarck. Sometimes older tech just works.
I like it
There are still weapons in the galaxy that can hold their own against lightsabers. And considering The High Republic is a period of expansion, there’s no telling what type of warriors the Jedi would meet on their journeys. Also, we don’t yet know of The Niall’s capabilities beyond their use of lightspeed. Perhaps maybe even some Jedi may go to their side?
The echani vibroswords are an excelent exemple..their world in the prequel is in an unknow states as far As I know..but whos to say they arent around more in the high republic? Also..trandoshian use bladed weapon that are known to be a match to lightsaber as well and I think those big fat guards in hutt palaces,their axes are made in materials able to resist lightsaber strike to a certain point if im not mistaken..the cathar as well..
Cortosis weave I think it was for lightsaber resistance
@@julianbrevik8829 Not Beskar???
Cortosis can do anything from block lightsabers to shut them off and or destroy them. They're so inconsistent. Beskar might've been a better choice.
@@TuckBolt Beskar is too scarce though due to centuries of mining by the Mandos. It's the given explanation why Mando armor tends to be less protective in most cases (like in the Clone Wars animated show) than it otherwise would be if made fully of beskar.
I like the Style, and the Ideas of the High Republic. However if they wanted this time to be during that Thousands years of the Republic. This Era should have been 200 years after the New Sith Wars (So 800 years ago) Here's Why.
It better explains why the Republic is now exploring the outer rim. Because their re-discovering it after a dark age, and the Fall of the sith Empire, who controlled the outer rim.
It also gives more freedom for New character's, Conflict, and lore without it seeming out of place.
But despite that I can't wait to read Light of the Jedi.
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Agreed
You're right.
And they'd start transitioning out of their cross guards and curved hilts, as there are no more Sith.
I'd say 200 years of no war would spark the idea of "we won for good, now we adapt".
They must've just started to let their guard down, so it'd be a slow process.
At first I was very against the idea of the high republic, when they gave out the idea of like 300 years ago I think it was, I was furious, I was like “that’s nonsensical and even within actual canon it’s mentioned the republic has stood for a thousand years” but the idea that this is coming out of the dark ages proceeding the new sith wars actually sits very well with me, I like that
Do not break you head overthinking it. Disney has erased everything we knew, no new Sith Wars. So sad!!!
I can't remember where I heard this but at this point in Republic, a Jedi's lightsaber was mostly ceremonial as rhey had not fought Sith in 800 years. Jedi would have lightsaber presentations and "show-off" their skills at ceremonies. Maybe once they start fighting against real threats instead of being largely sage mediators they will realize the crossguard design needs to be retired...
I read this in the Dooku book as well
200 years is a long time for fashions to change. I think it works
@@hamletprinceofdenmark5896 Not in Star Wars, since the old Republic very little has changed
Give me example of real life sword that doesn’t have cross guard?
@@boiboiboi1419 Chinese and Korean swords take you pick.
Agreed, this "High Republic" should be in a different time period. They have a decent idea but the put it in the wrong timeframe.
I strongly disagree. It' better for stories like this to explored during superficial "peacetime" because that drives home the importance of political subterfuge within the scope of the Star Wars universe. We saw exactly what the Jedi were like right before the Galactic Civil War -- remember the diplomatic mission Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan undertook at the beginning of TPM? We need more of that, please. Because even during a more civilized age, war is always on the horizon. The High Republic is the golden era of the Republic, but it's on the precipice of collapse. We know how it eventually crumbles.
@Napo ski They won't be different? That's perfect! That's exactly what we want. We otherwise couldn't tell the story about how the Republic and Jedi are failing well before the period of the films then, could we?
Let's face it... Dooku: A Star Wars Story is what we all want, but that isn't happening.
@Napo ski I bet Yoda will only appear in page panel in one-two comics as a cameo.
@@dylanwight5764 the issue isn't when the high republic is set time wise exactly it's that in the time period they have chosen this style of Light Sabre wouldn't have been in use. As after the Russaun Reformation & the Sith Rule of Two coming into affect very few Jedi would be fighting against enemies using bladed weapons on mass, the average Jedi would be coming up against blasters. So the simple hilted Sabre style is a much easer to deflect blaster bolts without the cross guard risking getting caught on clothing or any other risk
@@seanp5600y That's never stopped Jedi or Sith from constructing elegant weapons for a more fabulous age. If the idea is that this lightsaber design is controversial in-universe _because_ it's so outlandish and goes against the norm, then it's the perfect set piece for High Republic, especially during a time frame when the galaxy is relatively peaceful and a decadent decline is starting to set in.
I gotta admit, it looks great, really embodies the phrase " An elegant weapon for a more civilized age'
Disney has to let go of their fap happy obsession with crossguards tho. Lightsabers are not swords.
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnly I mean I understand, but crossguards are cool
_"A more elegant weapon for a more civilized age."_
The design radiates that quote!
"The art style is different, and it doesn't make sense."
Artists don't like being tied to an art direction that is pushing 50 years old. Of course projects will appear that put their own visual spin on it. I'm surprised it took this long, to be honest.
I think the point being made is that Disney is just doing whatever it wants with the story regardless of the pre-established lore
The point is that they're tasked with a job, and they're not adhering to what they're supposed to operate within. Imagine if you will, a bunch of artists being brought in to design visuals for something set in the Iron Age, and they deliver concepts and designs that hadn't been used since the end of the Stone Age / the start of the Bronze Age. Imagine someone being tasked with designing weapons used by late-Medieval knights, and turning in designs that are more fitting of the Holy Roman Empire instead. What's a French knight in steel plate armor going to do with a Gladius that can't hold an edge? What's a Jedi going into blaster bolt deflection going to do with a saber that's purpose-built for saber dueling?
dosn't matter, they did not make the universe its there jobs to respect it. love the art style but they could have still done it but at a different time in the universe. everyone wants the old republic they could and should have just done that and there would be literally no problems here.
New spin is not the same as stupid. But I can understand many things. We'll see how the story goes. I just hope this won't be another SW8-9 type of spin.
@@keevajazz6286 Now i dont like Disney Star wars but this annoys me: When TFA came out we all said it was like ANH now The High Republic is made and its not the same as the Old Republic your annoyed? If were going to complain we need to be consistent or they wont be able to improve it and make good quality SW!
Looks like it fixed an issue with the cross guard lightsaber.
I see no difference aside from design
It covers up the bottom so the user doesn't burn their hand.
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As I said aside from design I don't see a difference
Any form of cross guard is an improvement to the lightsaber
A lightsaber is just a sword and depending on skill it can be just as dangerous to the user as it is to the opponent
@@wyattguilliams9472 cross guards are not just to protect the hand from the opponent but to protect your hand from slipping down the blade. Not a big deal with slashes but for thrusts it becomes an issue. So this cross guard opens up a little bit of thrusting for the combat. Can you say, phalanx? Or if not that level of formation ar least a bit of a shield wall or something like that. More regimented combat styles and less of the "everyone breaks off into a number of duals" stuff but actual group combat. But yeah high republic would be the wrong era for this light saber.
@@darrenskjoelsvold
Look at the design of kylo ren's lightsaber
There are two stubs from which the "blade" cross guard extends so thrusting is not a problem for him and his gloved hands
Fairly warm I'm sure but not a problem so again
Aside from design I don't see a difference between them
I want a movie or a series about the eternal empire.
Gotta see my boi Arcann
Me too
This is the first time I got 32 likes and a heart from the youtuber,thank you.
I would love to See a fully armored Republic soldiers fighting along side sith troopers against the enternal empire. I like the old Republic Armor from those time the best.
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We are going to pretend Vibroblades don’t exist huh?
Apparently so
Vibroblades cant sword fight with lightsabers anywhere outside of video games. Even there they relied on some cortosis nonsense to make it plausible and cortosis was essentially unknown or unavailable in the time period in question. In any rational interpretation of the Starwars universe in the era we are talking about, lightsabers cut through vibroblades like they aren't even there.
@@benjaminboyle7329 cortosis was know and in use but by very very few and it was extremely rare so kinda a coin flip really but even then theres limits due to how a single glancing blow from a saber would do a lot of damage to the enemy
Sabers can cut through Vibroblades.
That's why the commando droids dodge the saber rather than block it with their swords.
They are not even close to being lightsaber at all
I remember when I was a kid that I sketched a lightsaber that looked just like this
Neat seeing it become real then, eh?
@@ThatGenericPyro I think a more appropriate takeaway on this might be the age group of the original artist at the time of conception (when you think about the chronology, how the scabbard design looks like it would function, details like that). That a kid would come up with something like this? Awesome. That a TEAM of professionals with several layers of supervision and (theoretically, based on Disney's earlier claims in de-canonizing what is now Legends) a team of continuity editors would come up with it is kind of embarrassing.
@@ThatGenericPyro yeah : ]
'IF' the Jedi are advertising themsevles and are trying to look cool to gain favor in the public... then it makes some sense. Not a whole lot of sense but some.
I think the jedi being different back then seems cool
You're right about how it would give the jedi a distinct aesthetic for people to remember. Then why not continue that design if they were banking on that image. Because clearly at some point the Jedi abandoned the cross-guard design in favor for a traditional lightsaber.
Maybe it was because they realized that crossguarded lightsabers were not as good at deflecting blaster bolts then regular designed lightsabers. But still the image of the original Jedi would stick in people's minds similarly to how the image of nobility, honor and knights stook in people's minds to this day.
(Edit) also when people think of knights they think of long swords, and since knights are connected with honor and nobility long swords are also connected with honor and nobility.
@MR. Maestro lmao
MR. Maestro There is only so much you can do with a lightsaber before it gets a little stupid(Helicopter blades) it’s less the actual function of the saber that is new and more the actual design that is. These light sabers have a Arthurian assetic and look to them and a more ceremonial approach that is quite new, where as Kylo’s saber was very practical.
@@nevermore7285 What’s an assetic?
That ”sword carriage/sword frog/sword holster” is much better for a physical bladed weapon... Plus Senya’s and Arcann’s hilt is personally better...
it appears to hold the lightsaber at three points and the lightsaber 'sticks' to those points. It is also more extravagant than a d-ring or similar style that has the saber swing freely from a single point. Fits the Jedi of this Era well.
The meme is coming true, we'll have 5-bladed sabers before long.
That scene from Phineas and Ferb comes to mind. Lol.
Can't wait for lightsaber ceiling fans
All i remember is the Sith’d lightsaber
Honestly I wouldn't complain if they made a scythe saber wielded by a mad sith that thinks he is a agemtof death
@@honorableundead2273 by this point, i wouldn’t be surprised. Tho i think they’d have to go with an Axe first, considering i think that’s already canon but not once been used, just kept shelved, but i mean, mechquest did the energy scythe real well, for a game anyways
"This weapon is your life!" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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the light saber. an elegant weapon... for a more civilized time
"Your new empire" Obi Wan Kenobi
“Before the dark times” - Obi wan Kenobi
I like the Claymore long sword design but you are correct Lore there are no Sith at the time of 200 years before the Battle of Yavin 4. Not sure if Lucasfilm is making another huge mistake in this new series but we will see.
It's 200 years before Phantom Menace so it's closer to 250BBY
yes, yes they are.
There were sith, but they're in hiding and were presumed extinct. The Sith haven't existed in large numbers since Darth Bane enacted the Rule of 2.
Dude totally diggin the KOTOR Manaan theme you have playing in the background!
Is that those two guys that look the same, one in white one dressed in black? Star wars noob here
This is a beautiful saber
I can see it being practical for saber on saber combat. Though... yeah it does seem.. odd for the time
If I remember correctly Stellan Gios was more of a scholar and teacher, rather than an out and about warrior. So it is possible that he deliberately chose an ancient design due to his fascination with history and since he wouldn't actually fight blaster-wielding opponents that often due to rarely leaving the Temple. Which is supported by the fact that he seems to be the only one who uses a cross-guard design while everyone else uses the single-bladed version.
Also, is it just me, or has Lucasfilm been kinda hesitant to have the Jedi fight Sith? First Snoke and Kylo Ren was confirmed not to be Sith, now we got the Nihil
Honestly, if I were a Jedi, I would definitely go with a design like this no matter how old fashioned and out of date it is. I think the disadvantage against blasters compared to a guardless saber is overstated. Though, I would make the hilt a bit more oval, rather than just circular. It's a better fit in the hand and allows for better blade indexing. While not important for the cut, and not important at all for guardless sabers, it would matter for the orientation of the crossguards.
Oh, and smooth it out, get rid of those ridges. And change the shape of the pommel to allow for a more comfortable grip. Basically just give it a traditional longsword hilt, that projects a lightsaber blade.
Looking at the concept images, it seems "Excalibur" is something unique to it's Jedi, while most of the other Jedi are using "standard" lightsabers.
Yea I was thinking the same thing, Everyone else has standard sabers in the art. This lightsaber actually gives me Dooku vibes. It has an almost royal look to it, and its appearance and quirks imply that its wielder is focused on dueling or saber-v-saber combat.
To be fair if they try and make every lightsaber into an Excalibur I’d be pissed there is only one Excalibur with two sister blades in all arthuian mythos
I'd be lying if I said this design isn't kinda cool but the time period all this stuff is set in just screws it all up.
Like it was said in the video 200 years is nothing in the Star Wars universe, dozens of named species in that universe can easily live up too and well beyond 200 years, technology advances so slowly things should be pretty much exactly the same as they are in The Phantom Menace. Hell, Yoda has been in the Jedi Order and had the rank of Master for nearly 800 years before The Republic became The Empire, he may even be the Grand Master of the Order still with only a piddling 200 year time difference.
This High Republic time should have been about 100 years after the formation of The Republic, well before all the corruption and money/power mongering started to seep into the Senate, everyone is still jazzed about its formation with folks being much better off than they were and those that aren't are being reaced out to, the Jedi Order still being the knights in shining armour who helped create The Republic and still have to defend it occasionally from the remnants of the Sith and other criminals.
@Spodo bbb It's not been said exactly when Yoda became Grand Master of the Order but he did attain the rank of Jedi Master when he was 100 or so.
@@wearywolfkins4755 I may be wrong, but I think you have to train a padawan to knighthood and be worthy to become a master. Since he already had to be a knight to train a padawan, and it takes about 20 years to become a knight, we can assume he began training about 40 years before he was a master, meaning he was 60 as a youngling.
It depends on how they right the changes. It being very ceremonial over practical during this High Republic to the Phantom Menace is believable, as there is no technology changes really, just a change in design focus.
@@nevermore7285 Also the "No Wars" thong COULD just mean there's been no MAJOR wars small scale wars or wars without a formal declaration could very easily happen! Perhaps a loop hole that allows planets to use there Defence Forces in wars and it not be CLASSED as a war due to no formal deceleration for propaganda reasons to make it seem like the Republic is a peaceful place?
Plus sorry for being 1 month late LOL
Get this video to the devs, PLEASE. I agree with this completely.
Devs?
@@larniieplayz6285 Sorry, gamer speak. Developers, but I meant producers.
inb4 a major plot point in the story iss yoda insisting that the blade must be kept cross because thats how they did it for hundreds of years, its a tradition.
or the high republic thinks the sith will return.
Lightsabers are already the coolest weapon idk why they’re trying to try all this shit
Looking back on this video after learning exactly who Stellan Gios is and how his lightsaber works, I can safely say that Stellan typically stays in the temple. He likes teaching to younglings, and he would spend a lot of time duelling other Jedi.
This means that his lightsaber is often ornamental, and not so usually used against blasters.
honestly the thing i hate the most about this whole thing is lucas based the jedi on samurai which is why the saber looks like it does. giving it a crossguard makes it look far to European which in itself is not bad but it makes the saber look more midlevel/fantasy and less scifi. the light saber was based on katanas which was a good choice because the unique look of katanas gave light sabers a sorta alien feel to them. now they look to familiar and not nearly as unique. i mean dont get me wrong the saber would be alright if it was a single knights saber and the design was meant to reflect his character in some way. that way it would be unique and the other sabers would keep their unique design. but giving it to the entire order removes the uniqueness of this design and makes all the other sabers less unique aswell. they should have just let kylo ren be the only one with it or have given it to very few jedi during the high republic. maybe only give it to jedi council members as a sign of their station and have the story for why kylo uses one century's later be because he wants to prove he was better than even the strongest jedi and that saber design was the only historical indication that you were one of the strongest jedi. they could have said the reason they got rid of the design was because the council felt that having a symbol of their status was to boastful.
Katanas still had tsuba for hand protection. Lucas also originally envisioned all sabers as white, then later changed his mind to white for normal people, blue for jedi, red for sith, and then later had the idea of them being force imbued.
@Songo Sun legit came up wit it while writing it lol. did not even have to think just had to know the universe enough to know what would make sense.
@Songo Sun im sure most of them probably just watched one or two of the movies after being hired for the job. honestly i think its safe to say that rian never watched the original trilogy due to his fundamental misunderstanding of lukes character and you could also argue that he did not watch the prequals due to his fundamental misunderstanding of the jedi order and its philosophies, the amount of training required to learn to use the force, and the importance of a lightsaber to a jedi and how it is not just a tool to be thrown away but an embodiment of who that jedi is as a person and is as important to them as their lives.
honestly the second luke threw away his fathers saber in the beginning i almost and should have walked out of the theater. that was the only thing he had to remember his father and furthermore was the only thing left from his fathers time as a jedi. it was the last thing of anakin skywalker jedi knight he had and he threw it away like a piece of garbage. even kylo ren has more respect for vaders things then luke has for anakins things.
@Songo Sun yeah i was originally not even gonna go see it because of how much tfa pissed me off but a friend invited me cuz he just started getting into star wars and i decided id go with him since i never got to see one of the movies with a friend before cuz none of my friends liked star wars. there was a few times where i would have walked out if i was alone but i did not want to leave him their. funny thing is after he saw it he thought it was good because he had just gotten into with the clone wars animated series and did not know that much about the franchise. he asked my opinion and i told him every thing about it that pissed me off but he could not understand why it made me so mad. after a few years and learning more about the franchise though he called me up and was like "dude now i see what you meant when you said that was the worst star wars movie ever".
this interaction with him made me realize that the difference between people who like the last jedi and people who hate it is not how much they like the star wars franchise rather its how much they understand it. and my personal belief is that fans like a franchise but true fans like and understand a franchise.
for example i like thor and captain America and consider myself a fan of them. but i could not for the life of me explain why cap cant hold thores hammer and i know theirs people out their that could go into detail as to why exactly cap is not worthy. i am a fan but they are the true fans. so i might like some of the marvel movies that they hate because i am not knowledgeable enough about the material to understand how much the studio is fing it up.
This could be cool. They could think they’d re fighting a simple group of dark Jedi or ex-Jedi-turned pirate or something, only for the Sith who kept their order alive behind the scenes to be pulling the strings. But the main characters would have to not notice or not grasp that the Sith still existed, for it to make sense with the continuity.
I also think this would be a really good era for the Chiss to make their full-scale return to canon. What if, instead of a “full scale war”, there was a short period of a galactic Cold War, with tensions between the Republic and Chiss with some Jedi serving as covert operators and spies? You could even give some elite Chiss soldiers their own versions of the lightsaber or another bladed melee weapon, so that the Jedi anticipating lightsaber combat would make sense.
The series could be about the Jedi stopping plots to draw the two powers into a full scale war, with the strings secretly being pulled by a secretive Sith Lord who seeks to cause a destructive conflict without revealing himself and create an opportunity for the Sith to return. It could basically be the Cold War thriller of the Star Wars universe.
I think the High Republic and Old Republic are two seperate eras and we'll get a old republic era storyline.
I also believe lore may be looking at it wrong, the sith dont exist, but that doesn't mean lightsaber users dont exist. Look at the knights of ren, they werent sith, though they were influenced, but they used lightsabers. So it could factions like that.
We already did
The High Republic and Old Republic are most definitely two separate eras, separated by thousands of years I believe. Also, the Sith do still exist during the time of the high republic, though they are still in the shadows under the rule of two and did not reveal themselves. If the Sith did reveal themselves to a Jedi during this time it would break the lore surrounding it, unless they leave no survivors or evidence of course. Also the Knights of Ren didn't use lightsabers.
@Joseph Douek making one requires the Force my guy.
800 years before TPM would have sat better with me
Agreed. 800 years would have made more sense. I'm pretty sure the only reason they set it so close to the Phantom Menace is so that they would have an excuse to still include familiar characters, the familiar character in this instance being Yoda.
Darth Goku wouldn’t jabba be alive? And maz
i love that you put dueling destinies in the background of this video that's my favorite star wars song ever... of all time...
"20-25 thousand year timeline" ya, in legends maybe. I know it suck, but Disney is making their own extended universe that will inevitably override legends cannon. Also, just because they're gonna be fighting lightsaber wielding opponents, doesn't mean they'll be fighting sith. They might explore other force using factions.
The Jedi Order existed for "a thousand generations" according to Obi-Wan, so yes, it IS canon that they have existed for about 20,000 years. Also, with Revan and Andeddu being canon in Disney's lore, it's confirmed once again that the Jedi/Sith conflict goes back for thousands of years before the High Republic. Revan lived about 4000 BBY, Andeddu up to 3000 years before Revan
It would be really cool if some jedi in this era use like hand held energy shields, the classic knight but in star wars
We have seen these kind of shields LOT in the clone wars, never the jedi that use them however.. would be really cool to see this
I agree
@@TheBenjaman it would make sense too since they're probably exclusively fighting blaster wielding enemies
The saber of god
This saber looks great, I'd personally like one. As for it being out of place lore-wise, it could be a relic passed down in his family or perhaps a symbol of office as a "round table knight"
I like the idea of delving into the high republic. I'm going to go into it with the same open mind that I went into the post-Disney movies. The one thing that I feel we can strongly count on is that they will find a way to make lightsaber combat frequent enough to keep us satisfied.
Looks like the white ranger’s saber ...
Sleeper Sith of the High Republic era: "At last we will have revenge."
Jedi: * summons massive Zord *
Sleeper Sith: "Maybe later.."
White Tigerzord!
Nice Video, star wars lover
The title tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I couldn’t 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You tell em straight!!
Yeah I feel like this fits more into old republic than “high republic”
If the High republic was set like 1000 years before the old republic I'd actually be very happy as it allows for the old republic to make its way back into canon at some point.
At this point almost everything Disney has made has felt like a poorly written fanfic done by someone who has no familiarity with the old eu or just outright hates it.
This is made by the lucasfilm creative group. Most of the same team that gives the new novels and rebels and have been veterans since George. Let's give them chance to correct what the Disney execs done with the movies.... Creating a good story. 😁
I've read horribly horrendous fanfic's w/ way more detail storytelling & compelling characters than that of anything that of the Disney Version of Star Wars Cannon has ever come up w/.
The build up to the game is canon. If you actually read the lore you’ll know that the mandalores are canon, as is the Jedi vs Mandalorian war.
@@joshuagraham5750 Sorry. You're right about that. It would still make more sense for thr High Republic to take place well before KOTOR's timeframe in my opinionion, but maybe I'm quite biased due to my attachment to the SW I grew up with.
You mean HIGH Republic 👁👄👁
I feel like the high republic is gona be one of those small things that's just, I might watch it, maybe, and is basically just some kids running around with sabers fighting criminals and that's it.
You would expect extravagant lightsabers pre Ruusan Reformation, because during the Golden Age of the Republic the Jedi were very orthodox although they did not lack for arrogance. Both contributed to their downfall.
I think the new lightsaber is awesome, one of the best I've ever seen. And I disagree about it not making sense in terms of the lore. All they said was that the sith weren't around for a millennia. But that doesn't mean we won't see a new group of enemies with lightsabers.
Exactly everyone is hella over reacting.
Setting it 200 years is a Waste of those Designs, it should be 10'000 years.
The Excalibur orientation saber might be needed in the event of ancient swords be discovered, as state in legends and other sources heavily enchanted weapons were actually more powerful than a standard light saber, but extremely difficult to produce. Also vibrio blades and heat swords are still popular, they just don’t get showed often in the mainstream movies or series. A good example are the clones in the bad batch season, where they use vibro knives and heat blades to tear through D type droids.
It could be a possibility that Stellan adopted the crossguard saber based on personal preference much like Dooku with the curved hilt. And for all we know, Stellan may have had the same kind of ideas that Dooku had in terms of the possibility of the Sith's return.
Bill McLaughlin perhaps but why would many others believe the same thing as him... Because there are many more cross-guard hilts in this era than in Dooku’s where only him and a rare few having a curved hilt...
@Dar-Nak Kallig The way I see it, perhaps there had been cases with Dark Jedi had caused some havoc and perhaps a few of them claimed to be Sith. Perhaps at that point in time, they had some concern about the possibility of the Sith's return before they outright accepted that the Sith were gone.
Bill McLaughlin to me the Dark Jedi thing has more validity than the paranoia of the Sith’s return.
The Sith have been gone for 800 years during the druggy Republic the thought of the Sith returning being widespread in the Jedi at that time seems a bit too fast to jump from Paranoid about the Sith returning to the Sith have been extinct for a millennia... The Dark Jedi thing could happen any day of the week if the Jedi aren't careful
@@dar-nakkallig That is true. I could also imagine that the reaction that a Dark Jedi's claim to be a Sith Lord would mostly be "He/She is crazy"
Bill McLaughlin yeah or saying he’s possessed by an artifact...
Knight of ren could be in there that could be the reason why that lightsaber is in that era.
Ok, I get it. If the setting was say 1000-1500 years ago it would fit. That makes sense.
I think the cross guard's ability to fold in makes it potentially a more versatile saber than a standard straight hilt or stand cross guard. You can use either setting depending on the situation, but that depends on whether the writers actually use that idea or not. I think there will be light saber battles in this era just because you can't have star wars without them, the era is a little restrictive but they have plenty of ways to work with it still.
I definitely see your concern. I'm curious what the characters reasoning will be with this cool reveal though.
It's a definitely restrictive era, but I think that's not a bad thing. It forces a level of creativity to work within the limits. I'm all for this era! I'm a Old Republic fan to the core, and I'd be a little meh if it was just more of the same jedi vs with war. That, and it gives them time to take care worth doing any old republic. I've always wondered about this closer era and hype to experience it!!!
Only liking it because has Master Yoda in it, don’t care for the rest 🤷♂️
To me everything that happened 1000 to 5000 years before when the initial trilogy is what I care for that and what happens in legends after the defeat of the emperor. The thousand years of bane's rule of two where the sith were in hiding I care about but not what happens in the general republics history and jedi history.
It’s literally an elegant weapon for a more civilized age
As long as the writers explain, in universe and logically, why this specific design is used by the wielder there shouldn't be any problems.
I think its pretty dope, makes more sense than the standard crossguard saber, also im hyped for high republic idk why its gotten so much hate and push back, its literally not even out yet 🙄
@Joseph Douek those were storyboards, theres literally no concrete evidence that any of that was gonna be in the story at all, and even if it was it wouldn't be a big deal, they'd be side creatures, and there's plenty of dinosaur looking creatures in star wars already so idk wym
What I don't like about the high republic is that it's only 200 years before the movies. In SW that's nothing. There are too many things too different from the movies for it to be only 200 years apart. Should be more like 2000 years.
So between Old Republic Era and New Sith Wars era if we're going based off legends?
They should have just kept the Old republic and kotor canon....
Honestly I think who ever is wielding this lightsaber it's going to be one of two things.
1. They built it because they are wanting saber combat , so they are preparing for it.
2. I think this is more likely, this will be a grand masters saber, and it will be basically ceremonial, made to look pretty not be functional and embodying an older time.
My theory is that during the high republic being that it was like the round table they were dedicated to being prepared for the return of something aka the sith. So In that time they used crossgaurd sabers until eventually realizing that it was unnecessary and eventually went back to normal and became more of a cerimonial weapon for a time
They should have just set it in the old republic
High republic? Seems like vitiate is back. Zakuul wasn't the end
The High republic era is a bit restrictive but there is some room where you can be very creative. As you mentioned Dookie anticipated the return of the Sith. So he built his Saber based on that theory. Maybe the character that wields this saber built his Saber based on that same theory. Plus we the fans have the advantage of knowing that the Sith are lurking in the shadows. Maybe there are some Jedi who encountered them. But didn’t live to tell the tale. Great vid.
I was hit with nostalgia when I heard the Knights of the old republic song in the background
I'm just worried how much they can screw up the SW universe. I think Darth Tenebrous's Twi'ilek master might be the Sith Lord in this era. He made the Jedi aware of the Dark Side after centuries. It's a big deal. If they make another Rey bs story I will stop going to the theaters.
The High Republic was named so because it describes the writing staff behind it--very, very HIGH! It is DOA.
The kotor music in the background makes everything epic
I could think of 2 ways the wielder could get around your issues with this design:
1) he could use it in tandem with a lightsaber more suited for parrying blaster fire or a dedicated energy shield, mounted to the wrist or something of the sort
2) this lightsaber change modes with the crossguard allignment into a mode more suited for parrying blaster fire or it could have a full on shield mode.
This design could also add more applications like different blade shapes instead of just a straight sword shapes for varying situations
I really like the cross guard Lightsaber. I don't care what anyone says about it!
So they are ripping off the Sword of Omens now? Does it give sight beyond sight or summon other jedi when used?
Ha! Very early this year a couple of nerds and HEMA people had been talking about making lighsabres more fence-able on a very obscure forum. What we came up with was a sword with a crossguard, but also with some rear cover to protect your hands from the energy, exactly like this one. There were also ideas like light-bucklers and knuckle bow guard sabres, the same as historical examples. Either great minds think alike, or someone from the dev team had been there too. Personally I'd love a lightsabre with an L- style Polish hussar guard and a finger ring!
This is a very wholesome video.
I don't think people realize just how erratic sword design was, especially in europe. in less than three hundred years the side sword, a battlefield weapon, evolved first into the rapier, then lost most of it's hilt and shortened into the small sword, then finally into the french dueling sword which was the art that gave rise to modern sport fencing less than a century later.
Just shows they aren't even paying attention to their own franchise
The lightsaber looks takki too me, just too much shit for such a simple and elegant weapon.
Very clean
I just designed this after the blue nerf sword a few months ago. I would have the ‘wings’ be cortosis layered over peril.
Looks far too awkward for my liking. It's too gaudy and overdesigned, not to mention we've already seen that crossguards don't need physical attachments to work.
Its Disney, they will destroy existing lore just to do things
Well story/lore wise Dooku designed his rapier-like hilt, precisely for dueling vs other lightsaber users waaay before he turned to the dark side, so its not like the first time we have a lightsaber designed that doesnt theoretically match the story. Can be a design from jedi's homeworld, omage to a waaay older design (as you know, they do design those as kids in lore).
And apart of that, rule of cool applies. It looks cool, it gives the "knightly" vibes especially with the holster. It "clicks" when you look at it.
EDIT: Also its not like 200y before phantom menace there were no sith. They were hiding, sure, but doesnt mean they werent there. Either they were really good as it, or simply noone who discovered them lived long enough to tell the tale.
They were hiding so well that everybody, including the Jedi Council, believed them to be extinct. Remember their reaction when Qui-Gon said he thought he had encountered a Sith?
as soon as they announced the high republic was taking place only 200 years before phantom menace i thought they just screwed themselves due to the sith not being around at the time. The only way I could see it being good is if they make it where the jedi do find the sith and end up dying before stopping them and Yoda either learns of their existence but thought they were so dwindled down and not a threat he ignored their existence and pretended like he never found out
and or he thougt they were dead after he faced themself leading him and the then grand master being the only surviviors and the then grand master saw the strength and heroics yoda did, retired and made him grand master
This series is going to be very boring, the name is Star *Wars* for a reason. Also, since it isn’t that important as it was never mentioned in any other canon stuff other than the high Republic itself, it’s going to be very lack luster in action.
Yeah! Legends never focused on peaceful eras...wait...I think they did...
Also there will be a conflict
General Grievous it’s my opinion, you should atleast be able to handle that without mocking me, makes your rebuttal look bad, and the Old Republic was mentioned in the OT by Obi Wan, LOL. Nice, dude.
General Grievous also, the high Republic wasn’t far before the Clone Wars, only 300 years. Meaning, it should’ve had some kind of effect on the prequel trilogy, but no, it didn’t.
Tor Lorel peaceful eras are boring, though.
Lol this guy is 100% talking out of his ass when explaining his philosophy for the saber design.
Thank you
How so???
I love it when someone posts something controversial but includes no original thought or counter argument
I wouldn't go so far as to say talking out of his arse but some of his points, I feel are certainly misguided. While there were no Sith during the High Republic, as far as the Jedi or anyone else knew at that time, that doesn't mean to say that there were absolutely no lightsaber wielding opponents. Jedi and Sith haven't been the only example of lightsaber wielding, Force sensitive organisations throughout Star Wars history, furthermore, the Jedi of the High Republic were no less susceptible to the allure of the dark side than Jedi of any other time period. I believe it entirely possible that some may, during that time have lost their way, while this may only have been in small and isolated cases it still serves to illustrate the fallacy of stating that there absolutely were no lightsaber wielding opponents in that era.
@@allieridgeway3670 For the most part there weren't lightsaber wielding enemies. The Jedi of that era really only practiced among themselves. This is why Dooku was the only user of form 2, Makashi. Makashi was a form specialized for lightsaber v lightsaber combat and it was a dead art by the time of the prequals. Many Jedi mastered the form on their way to mastering all 7 of them but none of them bothered fighting with it in actual combat, even when faced with the Sith of the prequals. It sounds like you guys have some reading up to do on the lore before you start spouting off things like the OP is misguided or talking out of his ass.
White Ranger got a new sword, it looks like.
I like the idea of the blade and hilt design being a reference to the particular Jedi Knight being more traditional. Where following older customs and traditions have greater importance for them than simplicity or function.
The writers for these stories have an opportunity to build on how people from certain worlds can have particular traits or preferences which are more common from that world. The best example I can think of for something like this was in the Star Wars Legends book “I, Jedi” which explained how Jedi Knights from the Corellian system had unique characteristics like their devotion or some lacked the ability for telekinesis. So a planet with more focus on tradition over function is an interesting concept.
So, without mincing words, The High Republic sounds like a hot-garbage concept, given when it's set. If these were the Jedi of the formation of the Old Republic? Sure, that'd work great. Have these predate Revan and Bane and so on. But to the topic at hand:
If this singular cross-guard Excalibur lightsaber was one of a kind, and was meant more as a symbolic weapon than one used regularly (as this implies), sure, fine. It's a beautiful aesthetic design. But the problem is the same with other cross-guard style sabers as we've seen them; even if the thing was made with cortosis or beskar and could withstand a few lightsaber strikes, the prongs that ignite the cross saber blades is still a vulnerability; hell, even if the Kylo Ren styled lightsaber weren't vents, but actual two small blades, THAT design is more practical in-so-far as you would have to damage the hilt to extinguish them (which is relatively easy to do with these sorts of designs). What would be far more effective is if these blades were more like Kylo Ren's vents, but were angled towards the base of the blade, forming a connected, triangular, and therefore thicker base of the blade. Sure it still suffers from weak point of the end of the vents, but at least then if a strike is made against those inclined planes, it will slide down and away from the center point, and therefore, further away from the hilt and wrists of the wielder, and would still give it that more exotic, but primative broadsword aesthetic they're trying to go for.
Not canon ...
The Disney (except Mando) crap will never be canon!
For legends nope
But for current star wars yep
The Tarkin and Dooku books are pretty good too
The show being set during the high republic era mean:
1- any red blade shown mean the opponent dies and the body is never found (exept for sith who train with such).
2- we get a sith infiltrating the republic subplot.
3- "have you ever heard of the accention of Darth Plagueis the wize"
Yoda: “Suck this light saber is.....”🤣🤣
Dude, it’s ONE saber, calm down, your acting like the entire series is ruined because of one lightsaber design. 😄
I'm extremely excited about High Republic because this is also part of the time of the outpost and the great disaster and I'm excited to see if either of those will be mentioned, not to mention a time period without much influence from the sith or dark side but of exploration which more borders into the star trek side of space lol
The Side small sabers actually can be quite handy, especially if the main saber can be turned off. Pick Axe? Also this new saber design can be used as a dagger, while turned off.
Now this is a cross-guard lightsaber I can get behind.😃👍🏽👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I'm curious to see how it all plays out, with the Jedi fending off attacks of espionage with a lot of spy stories in a time of peace, or maybe it paints the Jedi as ironclad "peace at any cost" type of gray, or maybe it's just a bunch of Jedi enjoying the most peaceful era in Star Wars. Hard to say until the stories are told lol
Most people probably remembered the terror that the sith brought and just thought "I ain't dealing with this" and just thought a dueling type lightsaber would be helpful
Remember that lightsabers were personally built by their wielders, not serial production, so having an outlier like this is not only possible, but expected. In the same way that medieval knights had a general format that most had their longswords made to, but there were outliers which were significantly different from the norm
Also, great observations on short sightedness in the video.
Nice, I was going to make the same point about their not being light saber opponents. There is also the issue the cross guard is not needed due to the magnetic fields that holding the plasma do not slide easily on one another. AND every disarment/amputation would have happened regardless of a cross guard. All that said it does look kind of cool.
I believe in another of your videos you mentioned that at that time lightsabers were hardly used outside social events.
When jedis would show off by dueling each other in front of the fancy folk.
200 years before the phantom menace. So Yoda should be still the highest member of the council right?
This is the major issue, I think. It’s like the decision to have Yoda in the mix forces their hands in where they wanted to place the new fiction. Without Yoda, they could have gone anywhere with this. But since Yoda has to be involved, they had to do it in a time period that just doesn’t make sense.
I like Yoda, but come on. He’s been in six movies, a TV series, and who knows how many books and comics over the past 43 40 years. Let the guy rest.
I usually imagine myself if I was a Jedi using two lightsaber pretty much like Ahsoka with a shoto lightsaber in the left hand, but seeing this Excalibur lightsaber...uff I think that I'm just going to wield a single lightsaber haha.