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Ikr, the problem is that the evolution gimmick is a mess, in the original evolution become the main part of the story, but frontier erase them and the concept of partner and just turn the children into digimon, and then savers showsa branch evolution that isn't a 1 time bug, and then xros wars make the evolution meaningless again,
Yeah i thougt the same. I like that each Season is different from each other. Thats how it doesnt get boring unlike other Shonen or Shows who run with the same boring Characters or Themes for Years. In Germany Tamers is one of when not the most beloved Digimon Seasons. But i heard it wasnt great for the Japanese what i totally dont get.
I kinda wish they took the dragonball xenoverse approach for a digimon game. Imagine playing through every digimon anime universe and unlocking every exclusive features from each series. And bring Ryo back since he's pretty much a multiversal traveller so he'll work as your guide or mentor.
@@SophiaSanders61 tbf, there's a few different characters who have travelled the digimon multiverse, tho most of which have done that travelling with the help of mirai
Digimon is weird in the sense that most longtime fans easily accept that each universe is independent, but just as important as the others. Unlike say DC and Marvel that has some universes that are treats as 'less important'. I feel explaining the hows and ways of that would be more interesting that trying to unify everything fully. Dig a bit more into the idea of Yggdrasil and Homeros and other Serverworlds, and how the human/real world multiverse works wit it as well. Trying to get new fans with the Old Stuff Again isn't the best tactic.
The concept of children or young adults bonding with monsters or in Frontier case spirits, who with their bonds grow as people saving two worlds is present in every season. Even the odd one out Frontier shows the children becoming friends with Bokomon and Neemon.
a series with a focus on hopping between the various digimon continuities would be interesting, especially if they play up the emotional impact of things like how with the adventure cast, some of the pains they go through as a result of how their digivices work doesn't apply for every pairing of digimon and human partners across the multiverse. Playing up the separation and using that to build upon the old concepts and thematics, and express the love for the old titles. TBF tho, I'd argue this sort of story would work much better in a game, than an anime or manga tho beyond that though, some things are supposed to be consistent, the evolution stages are more descriptive than anything, they're not an innate element of the setting, as much as a difference in the culture of the setting i guess, like the same digimon can appear in multiple evolution stages, and that's been a thing for a long dang time, and things like jogress evolution is related, but not the same as fusion, but they work off of similar principles, enough so that they can be categorized together anyways. Unifying terminology is one thing I don't have an issue with, if they tried to jam everything together into one lore though, that would be a problem, and would cause a lot of things to break down within the franchise
@@Thomas-db1zx In other words, we'll have to wait and see how is goes. Anyway, are you a Minato fan, as in Tachikawa Mimi-chan and Ishida Yamato-kun in a relationship?. Because I am.
Well then that's a problem with a simple solution. Use the multiverse route. That's what they did with Yu-Gi-Oh. In Arc V all the previous series like GX, 5Ds and Zexal were all split into various universes where one summon gimmick was the only gimmick in each verse and Arc V was where they all converged Easy fix.
I liked the 2020 reboot a lot, the music was great, the story was good, and the animation was beautiful. Also loved that they opened with a different take on "Children's War Game".
I think they're re-thinking things a bit while also working on brand new projects no one knows about yet. I think it's clear though that the Adventure cast is the way to go.
personally, I'd rather they continue doing new things mostly, even though my favorite cast to this day is the adventure cast in last evolution (haven't gotten around to 02 the beginning), focusing entirely on that original cast worked well because of time and because it wasn't the norm for the franchise, what would be cool would be every second new series being something connected to a previous series, while the rest are all following the normal pattern of complete blank slate
I dont think the writers and executives are on the same page. The movies have this "stop liking digimon and move on with your life" theme to them, and the series are almost completely nonsensical in regards to the lore. If the novels, TCG, and games moving forward get more intergration things could work out.
Yeah, honestly felt like Last Evolution Kizuna's whole message of 'don't be afraid to move on from what you liked as a kid' fell pretty flat when us older fans really do what to see more from the franchise we grew up with. Heck, I was able to get my 1-year-old niece into digimon through the 2020 reboot. She freaking loved it and always danced when the opening played. For those wondering, her favorite digimon is seemingly Argomon. Not what I expected, but guess she really likes the creepy virus plant.
Adults who say quit your Hobbys are the worst. A Hobby makes a Person out even if they are Adults and anyone should be free to enjoy their Hobbys no matter if they come over as childish to others. Heck the Fans probably Love Digimon more then some of the Developers. Maybe they should make a big Asking around for Fans both in Japan and Europe and America what they wish for or want. What i want im not sure if Bandai can give me that really. Thats why i started writing my own Digimon Storys or Fanfictions. And i think maybe they would be better then the Last few Projects. I had high Hopes for Ghost Game but the Show then turned to mediocre. The Reboot well the Action and Fights were better but the Story should been the same. At least Liberator seems to be loved. And i hope the next Game will be great too it better is its already 7 Years. If not even a Amateur like me could work up good Shows if we really wanted.
Yeah it reeks of toxic japanese work culture too, if you become a adult apparently you aren't allowed to be happy and have hobbies or like childish things anymore, just become a souless wageslave
Yeah currently seems we’re in a Fan project era in the west. Like Dragon Ball after GT and Before Super. Wonder how long it’ll last? And whether any good projects will come about?
I actually really enjoyed the 2020 reboot , it was actually so scary at times and how they brought in some characters like tk , was nuts , it's Digimon adventure just a different story , it's best case scenario and I don't know what ppl want but I legit still have My blue digivice ( original and my tags and crests as well as all my human figures ( original 1999 figures including mimi and Joe from the deluxe pack) and all the Digimon transformers ) even have the angewomon one , birdramon , kabuterimon , greymon , gururumon and angemon and magnaangemon and deep cut the silphymon /aquilamon /janky gatoman transformer, metalgururmon war greymon , blackwargraymon , and all 7 rookie Digimon and then the standing tailmon that winks lol so I'm a superfan and appreciate the 2020 reboot and its focus on the angel Digimon, we were so spoiled with tri ( which ppl hated too ) and last evolution we got new digivolutions for metalgerurumon and wargraymon and we got O2 the beginning which was actually good I enjoyed it and makes Davis himself but very likable they were all so likable and even the theme of " anything you want " nothing about him , makes you look at the friendships in your life where you are available for anything anytime and who just takes from you without being the same in return or even getting a little of what you give, we are so spoiled that it grew with us too! Digimon adventure 1999 I was 9-10 years old Digimon adventure 02 2000-2001 , 10-11 years old Digimon adventure tri 2015 25-28 years old ( but was set in 2005-2006 I was 15 and 16 years old ( roughly chosen children, age as them in tri) Last evolution ( 2019 they are in their 20s in this for sure ( Joe and gomamon's relationship as Joe gets more responsibility as he gets older was so real , imagine having a Digimon and trying to make rent and groceries and missing work to go fight Digimon like when you were a kid a the fate of the world was on your shoulders, then more chosen children as they got older , and then the digiegg forms basically sideways digivolutions how I explain it to ppl I could go on forever
The remake definitely skipped thru character development, the failed digivolution into skullgreymon was completely removed thus removing the characters inner struggles
It was a fun new experience to see what the story could look like. Told differently. But we loved Digimon 01 because of the backstory and that’s where they failed. They definitely could make Digimon 01 like Tamers and give it a real story.
I'd prefer a sequel to Survive myself, or atleast something in the same vein. That was the most enjoyable piece of Digimon media for me in a long time.
@@minicle426 Survive actually was pretty good but sadly we can see and feel how much cuts it got just to get released. Like a bunch of story parts are just reused, there's no other animated cutscenes aside from the intro, etc. It could've been better with higher production value but I guess both covid and budget cuts kinda kills it a bit.
They need to remain consistent in everything. Anime, games, films, social medial, products etc. Especially in this current era where there's a lot of competition. I love Digimon and really want this franchise to continue to suceed!! 🌐🌐🌏
a big part of digimon's identity has been the freedom to do different things with each new project, each new series doing something new with the existing ideas, re-framing them to tell a new story, so I don't think they need to be consistent, just consistent in there being content and consistent in the quality of that content, if not constantly improving. I do think standardizing basic terminology would be good tho, using the japanese terms for more things that got localized weirdly originally, like using the japanese stage names, as presently, it's inconsistent across the media, and the japanese stage names serve the themes of digimon better than most of the english ones, though I could also reasonably see them replacing the last few, with the apocryphal super ultimate/ultra stage being ascendant or something, instead, and perfect feels out of place, and gives a false idea of finality, and if i was in charge of the localizations, i would have named it mega instead, and kept ultimate, as it's supposed to be the final stage, and that's what the word means, and when the super ultimate stuff comes up, ascendant makes a lot more sense then when it's going beyond the max essentially, but with perfect already being there, it gives that sort of vibe to ultimate already. but regardless, of what terms they pick, they need to stick to them, with the evolution methods even moreso, because in 02 for example, jogress is used for the new method of evolving by putting 2 digimon together, and it is called that because it's a joint progress to the next stage, but it's explicitly called out to be different than how omegamon does it, and like, yeah, the method is different, one is directly a feature of the digivice and one is something that took extremely special circumstances to make happen, and was not something the digivice was capable of itself, but we still don't know for sure if that's actually why they're different, or if it's just that they're not going up a stage because ultimate is the max and wargraymon and metal garurumon are already ultimates, who fused together became another ultimate, who is sometimes considered an ultra/super ultimate digimon, but super ultimate/ultra isn't always canon, and in the english localizations, there's no difference generally, and both are called DNA Digivolution or just fusion, and then luckily DigiXros is pretty clearcut, except for the fact it's also referred to as DigiFuse sometimes, when the type of fusion omegamon is, is also called that sometimes codifying the digimon multiverse in a way similar to how DC and Marvel give names to the various continuities would also be helpful, as while we know digimon exists in a multiverse, we do have some conflicting sources on whether some media share the same continuity as each other, like whether or not digimon world re;digitize is in the same continuity as the rest of the digimon world series, if they're from the same human world, but are playing out in different digital worlds, or if they're in completely different continuities
4:35 the color devices and such failed to attract newcomers? It's impossible to get one in Europe (excluding France), and even online they cost an arm, a leg, and a brother.
I would like to see how digimentals would would for digimon who didn't have partners. Also maybe a story that focused on life in the digital world before humans. All the later digimon mini series screwed with the happy endings set in the final episode of digimon 02.
I think Digimon’s first few seasons defined the franchise, and it’s pretty evident what the audience wants but the fact that they make every game so drastically different it’s hard for them to grasp an audience for any specific genre. Digimon adventures is too iconic too erase and they should rebuild around it. Imo they should make a series of games exactly like the first Digimon world and Digimon world : next order
Id like a Frontier remake. With an older cast. Same characters just older. Theres never been a Digimon series with a cast thats over 18. Data Squad doesnt count bc theyre all sixteen. And Frontier has a special place in my heart bc its a concept thats never been done. Humans becoming digimon and the digivice designs were great.
yes and no, tamers also had humans becoming digimon, but in that case, they didn't become the digimon from scratch, they merged with their digimon, which, given that digimon don't really die, the fact that the ancient spirits were still around meant that they were alive in a way, and it had been expressed that they still had some sentience the humans needed to contend with, they were fusing with existing digimon as well beyond that, on the age thing, in last evolution, most of the cast was above 20, and in savers, yoshino was 18, though Masaru and Norstein were only 14 I do think that a digimon story where it's all adults could be interesting, but I feel like a good chunk of the premise behind digimon just lends itself too well to a young cast, the most solid core theme of the franchise as a whole is growth, growing up in age, learning from your experiences, the growth you nurture in others, that's digimon's heart and soul, and a lot of the growth that happens after you've become an adult is just, a lot less visible, and a lot more difficult to make a thematic parallel out of with the evolution, evolution in digimon, in japanese, the "champion" stage is actually called "adult" and "rookie" is called "chilld" for a reason, they're growing up a story focusing on adults would either need to replace that heart with something equally solid, or use it in a different way, with frontier for example, it focused a lot more on things like the circumstances that can lead to positive and negative growth, and the introspection needed to make a conscious effort in guiding how you grow, as well as a bit more of things like growing your relationships with those around you. One way I could see an adult series working rather well is if the human world and digital world are in conflict directly, the protags using human made tools created to fight digimon (by turning into them), but instead learning to understand the digimon more as they go, focusing on repairing broken mentalities and relationships in order to grow more positively in spite of past negative growth, would also give more opportunity to play with concepts like the fact that the digital world is digital, and the possibilities of that, taking notes from Izumi and hacking the digital world, as that's a concept that definitely feels more at home with a cast of adults than a preteen cast and would explain how the human to digimon transformations would work
If they make a Digimon game similar to Pokemon, with it heavily being RPG (cooler if it's an ARPG) but strong, immersive engagement and development through out the game as you get stronger- could rival Pokemon games.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 they dont like it because its a bit complex and confusing trying to understand the franchise at first. However, multiverse unifications don't tend to work well, especially for franchises with multiple series and over a decade old. Comic have tried this several times (with very poor results). Sonic is currently going through something similar with sega wanting to unite all Sonic Universes in a way for them all to make sense with each other (....its not working). can it be done well? i believe so, but it a very tight balancing act that most fail. and from what I've seen of bandai, I don't trust that they'lll stick the landing.
Adventure 2020's Major pitfall is exactly the focus on action. Digivolution used to be plot related and relevant, but in 2020 they just evolved when they needed to. Both the adventure reboot and ghost game suffer from the use of the episodic structure, concentrating major plot points in the last three episodes leaving the series feeling rushed and unfinished. Ghost game didn't even show gammamon's dark mega and their DNA digivolution. The movies, on the other hand, do a poor job because they're unoriginal. A new digidestined arrives and their partner is evil and the world is doomed. It's the plot of Tri, kizuna and 02 the beginning (which is just lame btw)
02 The Beginning I would consider to be the one with the better plot of the 3. If that's how you're judging them cos Ukkomon was never evil, Ukkomon was acting on a lack of understanding with Lui and vice versa. If anything The Beginning suffers from NOT capitalizing of it's themes of bonds. Not only was it the perfect time to finally give the other Jogress their Megas as a way to further prove that the bonds between the 02 kids and their digimon were not the product of Ukkomon pairing kids and digimon. It at least wraps up nicely by having Lui and Ukkomon talk to each other at the end and vow to get to know each other properly and become real friends like the 02 kids and their digimon. Kari was literally the antithesis to the whole "you're only partners because Ukkomon made it so" and they didnt even bother doing much with that.
While I agree with the ghost games criticism, the point about Arcturusmon and Proximamon not being in the show makes more sense when you realize the staff at the show had no Knowledge of these digimon and only learned of them about pubilc did. Bandai didn't really communicate with the anime staff and gave them only the first set of dim cards, so by the time the one with those two came the staff was likely already finished with the show.
The Beginning could be turned into a very interesting Story. I hoped for another Premise or Story. And i think my Headcanon what that kind of Story could have been was better then what we get. Now i did come up with a Continuation from the Beginning. And i think old Fans would love that because it boths brings new Things with it and solves some Mysteries left with the Dark Ocean.
No the action was a highlight. The battles improved and were smart and creative this time. You're right about the new movies though. I've completely dismissed them as non-canon.
Art subjective but I think you’re just flat out wrong and I wish people would stop running with this false narrative. I can tell you that the reboot wasn’t focused on action, it was focused solely on the digimon and the Lore of the digital world with an action backdrop.
This might be a hot take but we need another season like Xros Wars- in regards to the fact the digimon were treated less like partners and more like actual characters
that's literally the worst example for something like that, the original digimon adventure, they were definitively both, they had personalities of their own, and were effected by their human partners and their human partners were effected by them, data squad also got a significant amount of characterization with the partner digimon, xros wars, some got characterized, yes, but they tended to be rather shallow compared to what came before, which makes sense when there were just so many of them, even for the few they focused on, there was no way to get quite the same level of deep character exploration we got with some of the other series.
Seeing everything connected would be interesting but also weird. I think they need to create more concrete rules/lore around the digital world(s) or at least expand on the "servers" concept. Wheras Yggdrasil is one specific server where adventure 01 and 02 take place and say (taking the two server names from world 3) the Asuka and Amaterasu servers are where tamers and frontier take place. These servers or worlds can be connected but are treated as their own worlds allowing for easy crossovers but can keep events separate. Ie the black gears and dark masters from 01 werent big enough threats to threaten the Asuka or Amaterasu servers thus there was no real reason for tamers or frontier to be aware of what happened within the digital world. Although with that in mind, the real world stuff does need to have a singular continuity... The appearance of Greymon in the city and the like from the movie/ova's could be something occasionally referenced.
I love digimon. Recently got into the card game as of last year and that boosted my love for the franchise even more. I hope for it to become as huge as any other big franchise. I want it to bloom. Don't care how. Just give more content I can play with. Especially games... Survive was such a flop for me and I am CRAVING a new Digimon game. I don't care if it becomes a Pokémon clone or whatever, just get your name on the board, give us something so that we can keep up our interest. The card game at the moment is my favorite hobby and I'm going to locals regularly to play with the people there. It's so fun to interact with digimon and just have fun.
I will say, I think the 02 epilogue really negatively impacted Digimon Adventure because suddenly the future of Adventure wasn't an open book anymore, and obviously that is going to alter the writing of future projects. Tri probably would have been a very different show if the epilogue didn't exist. So, while it seems like an interesting idea, I hope something like this doesn't impact the creative potential these series could have by combing lore
I just want more Digimon Tamers content. No idea how that would work in this new universe considering it takes place in the "Real world" The Tri approach would be a perfect fit with Tri. I also think that trying to make everything connected will only hold back the franchise in terms of creativity. Many companies have tried to make their own "Marvel Universes" and ended up failing miserably. I've never known anyone who couldn't enjoy Digimon because the game or anime they played/watched weren't connected to others. I personally like how different all of them can be in continuity. I think the overall reach of the franchise is the problem because it feels like all of the content being made mainly applies to the first group of kids or other stuff that would mainly appeal to older fans. I feel like I have to deep dive in order for me to figure out that a new Digimon thing is being made. I think they should let off the gas on the nostalgia of the first season and make new good games and anime with efforts to market and reach people. If they keep making stuff related to what people grew up with, then they're going to remain stuck only getting views from older fans. Also feels like trying to appeal to new Tik Tok kids is a lost cause at this point of time. I would love if we got a more mature Digimon anime similar to Tri that had a brand new cast. I think stuff like Palworld proves that there is a large fanbase out there waiting for a proper, more mature competitor to Pokemon. I think the Digimon creators are putting their efforts in the wrong areas.
> Bandai > Overseas Market > Different strategies to get more fans Oh boy. The future doesn't look that bright. How about making the audience you already have happier? We're ultra loyal and literally starving for more media. It's been 2 years since Survive, and that was a Visual Novel that would go way better as long as they polished the combat a bit more (it's just ridiculously easy, and new game+ doesn't give you higher level enemies on the story). Ghost Game was great, if a bit rushed at the end, a far cry from the others in pacing, unfortunately. On a recent re-watch of Adventure I was impressed by how much you know about the Chosen Children by episode 2, and how fast we get to Vandemon and the real world. Up to Savers we always had great pacing and world building, try more of that. One more problem is marketing/reach. I somehow didn't have any idea we had another game incoming, I'm cautiously hyped for a game centered on Olympus XII. In conclusion, treat niche as niche and hope it grows to the limits of niche. Forcing it to go mainstream only serves to alienate the loyal fans that you built, as we have plenty of examples nowadays.
Combining all the best ideas and concepts from all the media to make a cohesive world. Just so new people can get into it easier since every different world has vastly different lore would be amazing. There could still be different digital worlds that work on different logics as long as they walk us thru how it interacts with other digital worlds were goated
They could start with knowing where they have Digimonfans in the world. I just qote them from two years ago: "We have german Digimonfans?" Yes ..... YES YOU DO!!!!! A LOT!!!!!
Bandai only have themselves to blame for poor sales on products like vpets. So much false scarsity and prerelease only sales habe made it hard for fans, especially younger ones. And with almost all digimon apps they are abandoned after a couple of years. I would put money on that happening to the vital lab soon sad to say. They have been fumbling the card game too.
I feel like they've shifted focus to the Card Game through Liberator and various card products because they are easy to produce in comparison. This seems like a good strategy while they figure out how to proceed with a new show, video games, and other merchandise. Just my opinion though. I just recently got back into digimon, and I'm enjoying catching up on all of this content.
I understand they want new fans, but I think focusing on older fans is the better way to go about it due to the times we live in. Fans spread the news and hype, and that attracts others. Also, they should collaborate with other companies to get people who weren't originally fans to look into it. Something I found annoying about Digimon games is that they never made one where you could create your own character. With games like Ark and Palworld, Digimon has a perfect blueprint laid out for them. Here's my idea for a game off the top of my head: a game similar to Palworld. You can catch Digimon and do fusion, or whatever they call it when humans either fuse with their Digimon or turn into Digimon. You can also play the card game in the game. There shouldn't be too much focus on the story because we have enough Digimon story-focused games. The focus should be on gameplay and things to do. Make sure gameplay is smooth in everything, from combat to travel and menus. No stiff gameplay like in the other games.
I really feel like digimon is the was a great franchise, still has lots of potential but somehow can't find a place to properly grow that said mild and great successes still shine a light on it
A true adeventure 03 would be great i think. Set in the epilouge pf 02 still have the main cast but have it be about their kids and their adventures in the digital world. Could open up alot of possibilities with everyone on the world having a digimon
So as a fan, what would you recommend as a decent enough logical continuity of shows to binge starting from Digimon Adventures (classic show, i did watch SOME as a kid so i'm familiar mostly with that). I do remember that Adventures got a second season along with a new oddly shaped digi-vice, but with different protagonist kids.
I would like that make a digimon anime like Savers with nothing of digidestined and yes with normal persons that created a bond with the Digital World through of the tecnology. The digivice would be a vital bracelet, the show would be with 3 or 4 characters( young and old persons) and all digimon's characters digivolve to mega and beyond.
this is what i wanted when they came out with the 2020 reboot and was let down by how they handled it. i wanted them to reboot everything and try to cennect it all together. giving it more lore and continuity between the different seasons. especially in regards to the digimon and how they digivolve. like the spirits and xros digimon.
At least when i was a kid i didnt have much of a problem with Digimon seasons 1 to 3 the 4 one is when things kept going stranger I think at least it should have a core timeline and a reason why these changes happen and not the creators wanted so at least we dont get lost And sincerely i really liked and still like the tamagochi games personally they could have focused on that
I feel like they could make a pretty decent series based on the OG Digimon World and just call it the same thing. Then you follow the protagonist as he gets a new Digimon to join the city each week to make the city better. Over time you could have additional tamers get transported there to help link the stories if they wanted like they did with Next Order. Once the city is established you could move on to other concepts like the Royal Knights or something. The issue with Digimon currently in terms of anime to me personally is that they seem to not want to establish a new strong narrative and world for their series to take place in. If they took their time to create a series with staying power I could see it becoming very successful. The old cast from adventure that keeps getting re-used has become stale by this point and it is evident that rehashing their stories is not establishing a new fan base.
They have a solid game in digimon world 1 last time. They should have expend it on that route during that time instead of going turn based and only comeback to it during digimon world redigitize. While i luke digimon world 2 and 3 and some if the ds digimon story, their focus become haywire. Digimon in the first place is a taming/training simulator. If they go with their root, it would have been a success today especially with so many ai assistance programming and 3d graphics available.
I'm pretty sure they're probably working on another anime right now, because we still have more announcements to come. People just need to wait and see.
I loved the digimon 2020 reboot. Only thing i wish they added was taichi and zeromaru cross over with taichi and agumon but they couldnt add it in the series because of covid so we never got that
i feel like they have always been connected, aside from the digital world being so big and not really explained in too much detail its obvious they are all connected already through some sort of digital nexus. it was clearly like this in cross wars when every main protagonist showed up, and there already is the appmon digimon universe stuff which has wargreymon appearing. so the digital world is connected to alternate universes digital worlds, i think it works fine and isnt really different than how it was already. they just wanna lay it down in concrete now
I personally dont think Digimon should try to be interconnected, one thing I've always enjoyed about Digimon is how each series tell it's own story about growth. The attempt to make it all interconnected feels more money motivated than passion led. The TCG being where it all goes to be interconnected is a much better approach as it lets each unique aspect of Digimon be tied together through mechanics and gameplay while maintaining the recognizability of Digivolution as we all know it.
I feel like Bandai has a different idea on what Digimon is on what the fans want it to be after the previous Director of the movies bailed out on creative differences on the themes going forward also not every latest addition has been a good idea in my opinion, also it's rare that we even get anything Digimon related when most of the time when news hits it's a new mobile captcha game for the Chinese and Japanese markets and card games.
hope they bring it to the west and not just asian countries and america, i loved Digimon Dusk, Dawn, Championship, Digimon world 2003, Digimon world (although i sucked at the game) and Digimon world ds. Also loved watching it every saturday morning until we got sky tv and could watch it every day.
briefly looking through the comments I'm seeing that generally most people are either against or neutral towards any sort of unification attempts. I personally love the fact that digimon traditionally hasn't been super centralized, as it allows for greater creativity in projects I wouldn't mind perhaps an attempt to keep digimon within the established evolution stages in order to avoid things like frontier and xros wars, but an attempt to make everything the same going forward seems boring you could use lore to tie things like evolution, stages and digivices to all other universes by saying that these things are core to the digital world, using the digital world as more of an expanded multiverse rather than a collection of individual and completely separate worlds, all while still allowing for more creative methods of evolution, different uses of digivices and connecting to different parallel human/analog worlds
I believe this can be huge, if they do it correctly. Pokemon is a hot steaming pile of ____, besides the games- but even the games aren't that great anymore in my opinion. The trading card game is overrated, and was really fun during it's start in the late 90s. The show, and any games based off of Digimon have the potential to get as big as Pokemon if done right... They can focus on the trading-playing card game when the series and games pick up traction...
I think they could really revitalize the series but makes really HQ digivices that aren't tied to the show but just focus on a quasi AI digimon companion. Just make it a all new look.
In all honesty they can just go the Gundam Timeline route. One main universe and the other being separated universe with there own timeline. This might become complicated like in the Zelda timeline.
How about focus on what made Digimon great in the first place. Great characters, character development, a soundtrack that slaps and cool monsters. Seems like an easy formula.
We just need a story heavy digimon show. Even new fans would like story and character development. They are treating people today like if they are mindless. Once you think less of your fans it will show and people will lose interest.
Ngl I think that Digimon isn’t as popular in the west because the franchise is all over the place, not really knowing what it wants to be, and it can often turn people away from the franchise as a whole. Growing up, I remember digimon adventure being well known, but nobody knew about the other shows unless they were hardcore fans of the franchise. I remember really liking to adventure, but I wasn’t big of fan of the other shows that followed. Some of them didn’t have the same vibe as Adventure and felt like a different franchise all together. It was just hard to keep track of it because every season was pretty much a reboot of the franchise. You have to learn how that new world works and get accustomed to a new group of characters/mechanics. I think that they should have stuck with the adventure, format. They could have swapped out characters along the way/throughout the seasons, introducing new characters. Similar how they did with the Pokémon anime. If you take a look at popular shows in the genre like Pokémon, they stay with Ash and familiar characters along their journey throughout multiple regions and multiple seasons. And when it comes to their games, they stick to a formula that works, and the games are high-quality for the most part, unlike a lot of Digimon games. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think that having spin offs and trying new things is bad, but I think that they should’ve had a main line series that was strong enough to familiarize people with the franchise so that spinoffs can be successful on their own
I think the creators should create a new show as a bit of a soft reboot and go from there. Make most things part of the new world instead of jumping all over. Also it would hurt to try improving the marketing. I’m a long time fan of the franchise but didn’t know they even had a new series.
I think they need to find a focus first. Even with this project reboot they keep trying to appeal to everyone which is spreading their resources thin. It’s hard to bring in a new audience when each individual project appeals to a different person. The only IP to be able to accomplish reaching so many people are those that are already popular enough to have a large core audience.
Now to get some of this and older stuff dubbed. I don't care if many fans hate it, I just want Digimon to live on in English and japanese. Just want them to live on
If only there was better writing, game direction, advertising, etc. I can go on and on, but the point is that they have plenty of reasons why the franchise isn't as popular as before and it never will be until they get their act together.
The main reason Digimon is in life support right now, is because Bandai doesn't care for western audiences. They don't release merchandise, TCG, anime, etc, here, and ignoring Europe and the US as potential markets is just plain STUPID. Heck, it barely cares about it eastern audiences either. Palworld showed the whole WORLD there's space and public for a more "mature" competitor to pokémon, and they're STARVING for it.
Would be so easy for them to make Digimon popular again.. JUST RELEASE A GOOD GAME! They keep releasing garbage low effort games for a quick cash grab. Imagine if instead of palworld we got a open world digimon game instead. Digimon's popularity would've soared, but no.... They won't allow that.
Its mediocre because of it s Flaws. But if that Flaws can be fixed a Continuation would make Sense. Its actually one of my Fanfictions a Second Part of Ghost Game im working on.
This really should have been done early on, and they have been fumbling with the products due to an over reliance on nostalgia and the mistaken belief that kids can't pay attention. They are also heavily reluctant to define what a digimon is and what it can or cannot do which the franchise sorely needs.
Most digimon game suffer from the same problem, grinding, in pokemon max level is 100, but in digimon you evolve and regenerated again and again, so the grinding become a hassle
Digimon in the first place is based from tamagochi. U get an egg, u train it and battle. Its their mistake in the first plave to go turn-based. While i do like their turn based games, it remove the essence of digimon in the first place. Just b3cause a game is popular, they ahould not followed the trend during that time. If they expend the mechanic and stick on the route using digimon world 1 as core gameplay, they might be more popular now.
@@daegograndynte2771 he just pointed out how much of chore the grind is, we all already know digimon is based on vpets, thats common Knowledge nowdays No one is asking to them remove the core component of the games
While every season has its own unique take every season has children bonding with their Digimon partner or spirit, growing as a person and saving two or more worlds.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 I see you point, but only two I know of Frontier and Xros Wars is something different. I haven’t seen Appmon or Ghost Game yet so I am not sure about them.
@@melissamurray8307 appmon has a different "leveling" system as well. GG had normal leveling, but gammamon had his slide evolution gimmick which was pretty cool in my opinion.
It's time to yapp 😮💨 The digimon franchise is in life sport right. now the last game was survive a game that announced in 2018 got delayed and released in 2022 that's 4 years and got mixed reviews because bandai doesn't know how to-do advertising 😑 The story game digimon story cyber sleuth released in 2015 for the ps vita the sequel Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth - Hacker's Memory released in 2017 for the ps4 and we got the complete collection for switch and windows in 2019 that's five years of cyber sleuth and they announced that they are working on a new story game in 2017 but now we are in 2024 that 7 years of waiting for something may end up being mid at bast (this is not going to be the next BOTW) The world title got fucking shafted the most. they got one game that is Digimon World: Next Order in 2016 for the ps vita got released in 2017 for the ps4 and the switch and windows in 2023 that's 6 to 7 years gap (and no digimon cyber sleuth DLC doesn't count they are using the same (assets That 2 ps vita games be holding this game franchise for 10 years Vital Bracelet are dead in this year so goodbye pulsemon and ghost game and seekers we will remember you in the next Memorial event 🙃 And then announced some movies for Nostalgia Bait 😑 And now there focusing on the TCG with no official online game (like duel links and .master duel) And Digimon Liberator an online comic and web novel with no anime adoption In a year people are quieting card games like yugioh 😭 I'm a digimon fan but Like what is bandai cooking here
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Makes Digimon aimed at younger audience, fails to gain a younger audience also disappoints older fans. Makes Digimon v-pet for older fans, exceeds expectations. Hmmmmmmm what should we do? I know! How about we tell older fans they're too old and they need to let go of Digimon! 😓
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the moment they gave us the polymerization Digivice only thing that came to mind WHYYYY
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I wouldn't mind Cyber Seluth being made into an anime as while i love the game, the whole case aspect does make the story a bit of mess sometimes
I agree, and I´ll say that Survive´s history would have worked better as an anime.
Attempting to connect every digimon project could ruin creativity in the longrun. I hope this won't backfire later.
Ikr, the problem is that the evolution gimmick is a mess, in the original evolution become the main part of the story, but frontier erase them and the concept of partner and just turn the children into digimon, and then savers showsa branch evolution that isn't a 1 time bug, and then xros wars make the evolution meaningless again,
The only think that I could think off that could save this mess is probably 1 human world plus several digital worlds
Its already connected cia the multiverse in the digimon 01 when they escaped myotismon's castle
I always believed Digimon ran on multiverse theories.so I'm not so connecting them into will work
Yeah i thougt the same. I like that each Season is different from each other. Thats how it doesnt get boring unlike other Shonen or Shows who run with the same boring Characters or Themes for Years. In Germany Tamers is one of when not the most beloved Digimon Seasons. But i heard it wasnt great for the Japanese what i totally dont get.
I kinda wish they took the dragonball xenoverse approach for a digimon game.
Imagine playing through every digimon anime universe and unlocking every exclusive features from each series.
And bring Ryo back since he's pretty much a multiversal traveller so he'll work as your guide or mentor.
or use mirai, who is also canonically a multiversal traveller
@tomykong2915
Mirai would be the Supreme Kai of Time and Ryo would be Trunks.
@@SophiaSanders61 tbf, there's a few different characters who have travelled the digimon multiverse, tho most of which have done that travelling with the help of mirai
Digimon is weird in the sense that most longtime fans easily accept that each universe is independent, but just as important as the others. Unlike say DC and Marvel that has some universes that are treats as 'less important'. I feel explaining the hows and ways of that would be more interesting that trying to unify everything fully. Dig a bit more into the idea of Yggdrasil and Homeros and other Serverworlds, and how the human/real world multiverse works wit it as well. Trying to get new fans with the Old Stuff Again isn't the best tactic.
The concept of children or young adults bonding with monsters or in Frontier case spirits, who with their bonds grow as people saving two worlds is present in every season.
Even the odd one out Frontier shows the children becoming friends with Bokomon and Neemon.
a series with a focus on hopping between the various digimon continuities would be interesting, especially if they play up the emotional impact of things like how with the adventure cast, some of the pains they go through as a result of how their digivices work doesn't apply for every pairing of digimon and human partners across the multiverse. Playing up the separation and using that to build upon the old concepts and thematics, and express the love for the old titles. TBF tho, I'd argue this sort of story would work much better in a game, than an anime or manga tho
beyond that though, some things are supposed to be consistent, the evolution stages are more descriptive than anything, they're not an innate element of the setting, as much as a difference in the culture of the setting i guess, like the same digimon can appear in multiple evolution stages, and that's been a thing for a long dang time, and things like jogress evolution is related, but not the same as fusion, but they work off of similar principles, enough so that they can be categorized together anyways. Unifying terminology is one thing I don't have an issue with, if they tried to jam everything together into one lore though, that would be a problem, and would cause a lot of things to break down within the franchise
I just want them to give us a solid story with cool Digimon we grow to love. With a real payoff.
Well, Tamers, Frontier and many others are set in different universes from the Adventure one.
It depends on how they do it
@@Thomas-db1zx In other words, we'll have to wait and see how is goes.
Anyway, are you a Minato fan, as in Tachikawa Mimi-chan and Ishida Yamato-kun in a relationship?.
Because I am.
no one cares about relationships in cartoons. just stop and enjoy. if you want relationships then go watch love island or something. @@Matsky-vf3lo
Well then that's a problem with a simple solution. Use the multiverse route. That's what they did with Yu-Gi-Oh.
In Arc V all the previous series like GX, 5Ds and Zexal were all split into various universes where one summon gimmick was the only gimmick in each verse and Arc V was where they all converged
Easy fix.
@@furionmax7824 We'll just have to wait and see how this goes.
I liked the 2020 reboot a lot, the music was great, the story was good, and the animation was beautiful. Also loved that they opened with a different take on "Children's War Game".
I think they're re-thinking things a bit while also working on brand new projects no one knows about yet. I think it's clear though that the Adventure cast is the way to go.
personally, I'd rather they continue doing new things mostly, even though my favorite cast to this day is the adventure cast in last evolution (haven't gotten around to 02 the beginning), focusing entirely on that original cast worked well because of time and because it wasn't the norm for the franchise, what would be cool would be every second new series being something connected to a previous series, while the rest are all following the normal pattern of complete blank slate
@@tomykong2915 could be neat indeed
I dont think the writers and executives are on the same page. The movies have this "stop liking digimon and move on with your life" theme to them, and the series are almost completely nonsensical in regards to the lore. If the novels, TCG, and games moving forward get more intergration things could work out.
There's novels?
Yeah, honestly felt like Last Evolution Kizuna's whole message of 'don't be afraid to move on from what you liked as a kid' fell pretty flat when us older fans really do what to see more from the franchise we grew up with. Heck, I was able to get my 1-year-old niece into digimon through the 2020 reboot. She freaking loved it and always danced when the opening played.
For those wondering, her favorite digimon is seemingly Argomon. Not what I expected, but guess she really likes the creepy virus plant.
Adults who say quit your Hobbys are the worst. A Hobby makes a Person out even if they are Adults and anyone should be free to enjoy their Hobbys no matter if they come over as childish to others. Heck the Fans probably Love Digimon more then some of the Developers. Maybe they should make a big Asking around for Fans both in Japan and Europe and America what they wish for or want. What i want im not sure if Bandai can give me that really. Thats why i started writing my own Digimon Storys or Fanfictions. And i think maybe they would be better then the Last few Projects. I had high Hopes for Ghost Game but the Show then turned to mediocre. The Reboot well the Action and Fights were better but the Story should been the same. At least Liberator seems to be loved. And i hope the next Game will be great too it better is its already 7 Years. If not even a Amateur like me could work up good Shows if we really wanted.
Yeah it reeks of toxic japanese work culture too, if you become a adult apparently you aren't allowed to be happy and have hobbies or like childish things anymore, just become a souless wageslave
I love the first three or so digimon shows that came out the first being my favorite
Yeah currently seems we’re in a Fan project era in the west. Like Dragon Ball after GT and Before Super. Wonder how long it’ll last? And whether any good projects will come about?
I actually really enjoyed the 2020 reboot , it was actually so scary at times and how they brought in some characters like tk , was nuts , it's Digimon adventure just a different story , it's best case scenario and I don't know what ppl want but I legit still have My blue digivice ( original and my tags and crests as well as all my human figures ( original 1999 figures including mimi and Joe from the deluxe pack) and all the Digimon transformers ) even have the angewomon one , birdramon , kabuterimon , greymon , gururumon and angemon and magnaangemon and deep cut the silphymon /aquilamon /janky gatoman transformer, metalgururmon war greymon , blackwargraymon , and all 7 rookie Digimon and then the standing tailmon that winks lol so I'm a superfan and appreciate the 2020 reboot and its focus on the angel Digimon, we were so spoiled with tri ( which ppl hated too ) and last evolution we got new digivolutions for metalgerurumon and wargraymon and we got O2 the beginning which was actually good I enjoyed it and makes Davis himself but very likable they were all so likable and even the theme of " anything you want " nothing about him , makes you look at the friendships in your life where you are available for anything anytime and who just takes from you without being the same in return or even getting a little of what you give, we are so spoiled that it grew with us too!
Digimon adventure 1999 I was 9-10 years old
Digimon adventure 02 2000-2001 , 10-11 years old
Digimon adventure tri 2015 25-28 years old ( but was set in 2005-2006
I was 15 and 16 years old ( roughly chosen children, age as them in tri)
Last evolution ( 2019 they are in their 20s in this for sure ( Joe and gomamon's relationship as Joe gets more responsibility as he gets older was so real , imagine having a Digimon and trying to make rent and groceries and missing work to go fight Digimon like when you were a kid a the fate of the world was on your shoulders, then more chosen children as they got older , and then the digiegg forms basically sideways digivolutions how I explain it to ppl I could go on forever
How the f they are 25 in 2005 when in 1999 they are still 10?
The remake definitely skipped thru character development, the failed digivolution into skullgreymon was completely removed thus removing the characters inner struggles
It was a fun new experience to see what the story could look like. Told differently. But we loved Digimon 01 because of the backstory and that’s where they failed. They definitely could make Digimon 01 like Tamers and give it a real story.
I'd prefer a sequel to Survive myself, or atleast something in the same vein. That was the most enjoyable piece of Digimon media for me in a long time.
Me as well.
Ye good thing you're part of a small percentage of people...
@@minicle426 Survive actually was pretty good but sadly we can see and feel how much cuts it got just to get released. Like a bunch of story parts are just reused, there's no other animated cutscenes aside from the intro, etc. It could've been better with higher production value but I guess both covid and budget cuts kinda kills it a bit.
please God, no more survive!!! that was the most boring piece of media ive ever played!!
Survives story was fun it was basically a darker retelling of gen 1
The combat though.... oof
The Design of digimon adventure 01,02 is chosen based on a Competition in Japan
Digimon World Next Order was a sequel to the playstation classic Digimon World.
Can we still get a sequel to Digimon Adventure 2020 Reboot!
They need to remain consistent in everything. Anime, games, films, social medial, products etc. Especially in this current era where there's a lot of competition. I love Digimon and really want this franchise to continue to suceed!! 🌐🌐🌏
a big part of digimon's identity has been the freedom to do different things with each new project, each new series doing something new with the existing ideas, re-framing them to tell a new story, so I don't think they need to be consistent, just consistent in there being content and consistent in the quality of that content, if not constantly improving. I do think standardizing basic terminology would be good tho, using the japanese terms for more things that got localized weirdly originally, like using the japanese stage names, as presently, it's inconsistent across the media, and the japanese stage names serve the themes of digimon better than most of the english ones, though I could also reasonably see them replacing the last few, with the apocryphal super ultimate/ultra stage being ascendant or something, instead, and perfect feels out of place, and gives a false idea of finality, and if i was in charge of the localizations, i would have named it mega instead, and kept ultimate, as it's supposed to be the final stage, and that's what the word means, and when the super ultimate stuff comes up, ascendant makes a lot more sense then when it's going beyond the max essentially, but with perfect already being there, it gives that sort of vibe to ultimate already. but regardless, of what terms they pick, they need to stick to them, with the evolution methods even moreso, because in 02 for example, jogress is used for the new method of evolving by putting 2 digimon together, and it is called that because it's a joint progress to the next stage, but it's explicitly called out to be different than how omegamon does it, and like, yeah, the method is different, one is directly a feature of the digivice and one is something that took extremely special circumstances to make happen, and was not something the digivice was capable of itself, but we still don't know for sure if that's actually why they're different, or if it's just that they're not going up a stage because ultimate is the max and wargraymon and metal garurumon are already ultimates, who fused together became another ultimate, who is sometimes considered an ultra/super ultimate digimon, but super ultimate/ultra isn't always canon, and in the english localizations, there's no difference generally, and both are called DNA Digivolution or just fusion, and then luckily DigiXros is pretty clearcut, except for the fact it's also referred to as DigiFuse sometimes, when the type of fusion omegamon is, is also called that sometimes
codifying the digimon multiverse in a way similar to how DC and Marvel give names to the various continuities would also be helpful, as while we know digimon exists in a multiverse, we do have some conflicting sources on whether some media share the same continuity as each other, like whether or not digimon world re;digitize is in the same continuity as the rest of the digimon world series, if they're from the same human world, but are playing out in different digital worlds, or if they're in completely different continuities
I'm a big sucker for digimon games, so this is definitely very welcoming
4:35 the color devices and such failed to attract newcomers? It's impossible to get one in Europe (excluding France), and even online they cost an arm, a leg, and a brother.
I would like to see how digimentals would would for digimon who didn't have partners. Also maybe a story that focused on life in the digital world before humans. All the later digimon mini series screwed with the happy endings set in the final episode of digimon 02.
I think Digimon’s first few seasons defined the franchise, and it’s pretty evident what the audience wants but the fact that they make every game so drastically different it’s hard for them to grasp an audience for any specific genre. Digimon adventures is too iconic too erase and they should rebuild around it.
Imo they should make a series of games exactly like the first Digimon world and Digimon world : next order
Id like a Frontier remake. With an older cast. Same characters just older. Theres never been a Digimon series with a cast thats over 18.
Data Squad doesnt count bc theyre all sixteen.
And Frontier has a special place in my heart bc its a concept thats never been done. Humans becoming digimon and the digivice designs were great.
yes and no, tamers also had humans becoming digimon, but in that case, they didn't become the digimon from scratch, they merged with their digimon, which, given that digimon don't really die, the fact that the ancient spirits were still around meant that they were alive in a way, and it had been expressed that they still had some sentience the humans needed to contend with, they were fusing with existing digimon as well
beyond that, on the age thing, in last evolution, most of the cast was above 20, and in savers, yoshino was 18, though Masaru and Norstein were only 14
I do think that a digimon story where it's all adults could be interesting, but I feel like a good chunk of the premise behind digimon just lends itself too well to a young cast, the most solid core theme of the franchise as a whole is growth, growing up in age, learning from your experiences, the growth you nurture in others, that's digimon's heart and soul, and a lot of the growth that happens after you've become an adult is just, a lot less visible, and a lot more difficult to make a thematic parallel out of with the evolution, evolution in digimon, in japanese, the "champion" stage is actually called "adult" and "rookie" is called "chilld" for a reason, they're growing up
a story focusing on adults would either need to replace that heart with something equally solid, or use it in a different way, with frontier for example, it focused a lot more on things like the circumstances that can lead to positive and negative growth, and the introspection needed to make a conscious effort in guiding how you grow, as well as a bit more of things like growing your relationships with those around you. One way I could see an adult series working rather well is if the human world and digital world are in conflict directly, the protags using human made tools created to fight digimon (by turning into them), but instead learning to understand the digimon more as they go, focusing on repairing broken mentalities and relationships in order to grow more positively in spite of past negative growth, would also give more opportunity to play with concepts like the fact that the digital world is digital, and the possibilities of that, taking notes from Izumi and hacking the digital world, as that's a concept that definitely feels more at home with a cast of adults than a preteen cast and would explain how the human to digimon transformations would work
If they make a Digimon game similar to Pokemon, with it heavily being RPG (cooler if it's an ARPG) but strong, immersive engagement and development through out the game as you get stronger- could rival Pokemon games.
Cyber sleuth was better than any Pokémon game I’ve ever played
cyber sleuth...it's legit one of the best games ive played
@@LUMBEEPHENOM2012 i really liked the first one want to play the other one eventually
@@LUMBEEPHENOM2012eh. cybersleuth was okay.
that's just the story games in a nutshell
I just want the new Digimon Story game
same honestly at this point id be happy with a 30 second trailer or something other than "dont worry we are still working on it just be patient"
7 Years it should be really good with that much Time and offer a lot of Digimon to train.
I liked how different digimon univereses had different rules. I am a bit worried about this
thats what most people dont like.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 they dont like it because its a bit complex and confusing trying to understand the franchise at first.
However, multiverse unifications don't tend to work well, especially for franchises with multiple series and over a decade old. Comic have tried this several times (with very poor results). Sonic is currently going through something similar with sega wanting to unite all Sonic Universes in a way for them all to make sense with each other (....its not working).
can it be done well? i believe so, but it a very tight balancing act that most fail. and from what I've seen of bandai, I don't trust that they'lll stick the landing.
Adventure 2020's Major pitfall is exactly the focus on action. Digivolution used to be plot related and relevant, but in 2020 they just evolved when they needed to. Both the adventure reboot and ghost game suffer from the use of the episodic structure, concentrating major plot points in the last three episodes leaving the series feeling rushed and unfinished. Ghost game didn't even show gammamon's dark mega and their DNA digivolution. The movies, on the other hand, do a poor job because they're unoriginal. A new digidestined arrives and their partner is evil and the world is doomed. It's the plot of Tri, kizuna and 02 the beginning (which is just lame btw)
02 The Beginning I would consider to be the one with the better plot of the 3. If that's how you're judging them cos Ukkomon was never evil, Ukkomon was acting on a lack of understanding with Lui and vice versa. If anything The Beginning suffers from NOT capitalizing of it's themes of bonds.
Not only was it the perfect time to finally give the other Jogress their Megas as a way to further prove that the bonds between the 02 kids and their digimon were not the product of Ukkomon pairing kids and digimon.
It at least wraps up nicely by having Lui and Ukkomon talk to each other at the end and vow to get to know each other properly and become real friends like the 02 kids and their digimon.
Kari was literally the antithesis to the whole "you're only partners because Ukkomon made it so" and they didnt even bother doing much with that.
While I agree with the ghost games criticism, the point about Arcturusmon and Proximamon not being in the show makes more sense when you realize the staff at the show had no Knowledge of these digimon and only learned of them about pubilc did.
Bandai didn't really communicate with the anime staff and gave them only the first set of dim cards, so by the time the one with those two came the staff was likely already finished with the show.
The Beginning could be turned into a very interesting Story. I hoped for another Premise or Story. And i think my Headcanon what that kind of Story could have been was better then what we get. Now i did come up with a Continuation from the Beginning. And i think old Fans would love that because it boths brings new Things with it and solves some Mysteries left with the Dark Ocean.
No the action was a highlight. The battles improved and were smart and creative this time. You're right about the new movies though. I've completely dismissed them as non-canon.
Art subjective but I think you’re just flat out wrong and I wish people would stop running with this false narrative. I can tell you that the reboot wasn’t focused on action, it was focused solely on the digimon and the Lore of the digital world with an action backdrop.
Let's hope it'll turn out well!
This might be a hot take but we need another season like Xros Wars- in regards to the fact the digimon were treated less like partners and more like actual characters
no thanks
i'd like that
that's literally the worst example for something like that, the original digimon adventure, they were definitively both, they had personalities of their own, and were effected by their human partners and their human partners were effected by them, data squad also got a significant amount of characterization with the partner digimon, xros wars, some got characterized, yes, but they tended to be rather shallow compared to what came before, which makes sense when there were just so many of them, even for the few they focused on, there was no way to get quite the same level of deep character exploration we got with some of the other series.
Seeing everything connected would be interesting but also weird. I think they need to create more concrete rules/lore around the digital world(s) or at least expand on the "servers" concept. Wheras Yggdrasil is one specific server where adventure 01 and 02 take place and say (taking the two server names from world 3) the Asuka and Amaterasu servers are where tamers and frontier take place. These servers or worlds can be connected but are treated as their own worlds allowing for easy crossovers but can keep events separate. Ie the black gears and dark masters from 01 werent big enough threats to threaten the Asuka or Amaterasu servers thus there was no real reason for tamers or frontier to be aware of what happened within the digital world. Although with that in mind, the real world stuff does need to have a singular continuity... The appearance of Greymon in the city and the like from the movie/ova's could be something occasionally referenced.
I love digimon. Recently got into the card game as of last year and that boosted my love for the franchise even more. I hope for it to become as huge as any other big franchise. I want it to bloom. Don't care how. Just give more content I can play with. Especially games... Survive was such a flop for me and I am CRAVING a new Digimon game. I don't care if it becomes a Pokémon clone or whatever, just get your name on the board, give us something so that we can keep up our interest. The card game at the moment is my favorite hobby and I'm going to locals regularly to play with the people there. It's so fun to interact with digimon and just have fun.
I will say, I think the 02 epilogue really negatively impacted Digimon Adventure because suddenly the future of Adventure wasn't an open book anymore, and obviously that is going to alter the writing of future projects. Tri probably would have been a very different show if the epilogue didn't exist. So, while it seems like an interesting idea, I hope something like this doesn't impact the creative potential these series could have by combing lore
Perhaps Bandai should have a servay on it's for Digimon fans?
I want a Digimon game similar to Pokemon Black and White video game ❤❤❤
I just want more Digimon Tamers content. No idea how that would work in this new universe considering it takes place in the "Real world" The Tri approach would be a perfect fit with Tri.
I also think that trying to make everything connected will only hold back the franchise in terms of creativity. Many companies have tried to make their own "Marvel Universes" and ended up failing miserably. I've never known anyone who couldn't enjoy Digimon because the game or anime they played/watched weren't connected to others. I personally like how different all of them can be in continuity. I think the overall reach of the franchise is the problem because it feels like all of the content being made mainly applies to the first group of kids or other stuff that would mainly appeal to older fans. I feel like I have to deep dive in order for me to figure out that a new Digimon thing is being made.
I think they should let off the gas on the nostalgia of the first season and make new good games and anime with efforts to market and reach people. If they keep making stuff related to what people grew up with, then they're going to remain stuck only getting views from older fans. Also feels like trying to appeal to new Tik Tok kids is a lost cause at this point of time. I would love if we got a more mature Digimon anime similar to Tri that had a brand new cast. I think stuff like Palworld proves that there is a large fanbase out there waiting for a proper, more mature competitor to Pokemon. I think the Digimon creators are putting their efforts in the wrong areas.
What I'd like to see is an anime about the original Taichi and zeromaru.
Yes.
> Bandai
> Overseas Market
> Different strategies to get more fans
Oh boy. The future doesn't look that bright.
How about making the audience you already have happier? We're ultra loyal and literally starving for more media. It's been 2 years since Survive, and that was a Visual Novel that would go way better as long as they polished the combat a bit more (it's just ridiculously easy, and new game+ doesn't give you higher level enemies on the story).
Ghost Game was great, if a bit rushed at the end, a far cry from the others in pacing, unfortunately. On a recent re-watch of Adventure I was impressed by how much you know about the Chosen Children by episode 2, and how fast we get to Vandemon and the real world. Up to Savers we always had great pacing and world building, try more of that.
One more problem is marketing/reach. I somehow didn't have any idea we had another game incoming, I'm cautiously hyped for a game centered on Olympus XII.
In conclusion, treat niche as niche and hope it grows to the limits of niche. Forcing it to go mainstream only serves to alienate the loyal fans that you built, as we have plenty of examples nowadays.
Combining all the best ideas and concepts from all the media to make a cohesive world.
Just so new people can get into it easier since every different world has vastly different lore would be amazing.
There could still be different digital worlds that work on different logics as long as they walk us thru how it interacts with other digital worlds were goated
They could start with knowing where they have Digimonfans in the world. I just qote them from two years ago: "We have german Digimonfans?" Yes ..... YES YOU DO!!!!! A LOT!!!!!
Bandai only have themselves to blame for poor sales on products like vpets. So much false scarsity and prerelease only sales habe made it hard for fans, especially younger ones. And with almost all digimon apps they are abandoned after a couple of years. I would put money on that happening to the vital lab soon sad to say. They have been fumbling the card game too.
I feel like they've shifted focus to the Card Game through Liberator and various card products because they are easy to produce in comparison. This seems like a good strategy while they figure out how to proceed with a new show, video games, and other merchandise. Just my opinion though. I just recently got back into digimon, and I'm enjoying catching up on all of this content.
I understand they want new fans, but I think focusing on older fans is the better way to go about it due to the times we live in. Fans spread the news and hype, and that attracts others.
Also, they should collaborate with other companies to get people who weren't originally fans to look into it.
Something I found annoying about Digimon games is that they never made one where you could create your own character. With games like Ark and Palworld, Digimon has a perfect blueprint laid out for them.
Here's my idea for a game off the top of my head: a game similar to Palworld. You can catch Digimon and do fusion, or whatever they call it when humans either fuse with their Digimon or turn into Digimon.
You can also play the card game in the game.
There shouldn't be too much focus on the story because we have enough Digimon story-focused games. The focus should be on gameplay and things to do.
Make sure gameplay is smooth in everything, from combat to travel and menus. No stiff gameplay like in the other games.
just remake digimon 1 and Digimon Card Battle plis.
And Digimon Rumble Arena!
I really feel like digimon is the was a great franchise, still has lots of potential but somehow can't find a place to properly grow
that said mild and great successes still shine a light on it
I like it. Its like power rangers. Its the same show, just different seasons, titles, and characters but they should all coincide the same universe.
A true adeventure 03 would be great i think. Set in the epilouge pf 02 still have the main cast but have it be about their kids and their adventures in the digital world. Could open up alot of possibilities with everyone on the world having a digimon
So as a fan, what would you recommend as a decent enough logical continuity of shows to binge starting from Digimon Adventures (classic show, i did watch SOME as a kid so i'm familiar mostly with that). I do remember that Adventures got a second season along with a new oddly shaped digi-vice, but with different protagonist kids.
I would like that make a digimon anime like Savers with nothing of digidestined and yes with normal persons that created a bond with the Digital World through of the tecnology. The digivice would be a vital bracelet, the show would be with 3 or 4 characters( young and old persons) and all digimon's characters digivolve to mega and beyond.
this is what i wanted when they came out with the 2020 reboot and was let down by how they handled it. i wanted them to reboot everything and try to cennect it all together. giving it more lore and continuity between the different seasons. especially in regards to the digimon and how they digivolve. like the spirits and xros digimon.
At least when i was a kid i didnt have much of a problem with Digimon seasons 1 to 3 the 4 one is when things kept going stranger
I think at least it should have a core timeline and a reason why these changes happen and not the creators wanted so at least we dont get lost
And sincerely i really liked and still like the tamagochi games personally they could have focused on that
I feel like they could make a pretty decent series based on the OG Digimon World and just call it the same thing. Then you follow the protagonist as he gets a new Digimon to join the city each week to make the city better. Over time you could have additional tamers get transported there to help link the stories if they wanted like they did with Next Order. Once the city is established you could move on to other concepts like the Royal Knights or something. The issue with Digimon currently in terms of anime to me personally is that they seem to not want to establish a new strong narrative and world for their series to take place in. If they took their time to create a series with staying power I could see it becoming very successful. The old cast from adventure that keeps getting re-used has become stale by this point and it is evident that rehashing their stories is not establishing a new fan base.
They have a solid game in digimon world 1 last time. They should have expend it on that route during that time instead of going turn based and only comeback to it during digimon world redigitize. While i luke digimon world 2 and 3 and some if the ds digimon story, their focus become haywire. Digimon in the first place is a taming/training simulator. If they go with their root, it would have been a success today especially with so many ai assistance programming and 3d graphics available.
I'm pretty sure they're probably working on another anime right now, because we still have more announcements to come. People just need to wait and see.
I hope we get an anime with Herissmon in it also I hope Rasenmon gets a burst mode or x antibodies
@@dustinkennedy7055 Yeah, that would be pretty cool
@@dustinkennedy7055 i want just digimon anime or movie after Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning
I loved the digimon 2020 reboot. Only thing i wish they added was taichi and zeromaru cross over with taichi and agumon but they couldnt add it in the series because of covid so we never got that
i feel like they have always been connected, aside from the digital world being so big and not really explained in too much detail its obvious they are all connected already through some sort of digital nexus. it was clearly like this in cross wars when every main protagonist showed up, and there already is the appmon digimon universe stuff which has wargreymon appearing. so the digital world is connected to alternate universes digital worlds, i think it works fine and isnt really different than how it was already. they just wanna lay it down in concrete now
Well digimon 04 Frontier concept is the completion of Digimon Adventure 01,02,03,04 series of continuous series
I personally dont think Digimon should try to be interconnected, one thing I've always enjoyed about Digimon is how each series tell it's own story about growth. The attempt to make it all interconnected feels more money motivated than passion led.
The TCG being where it all goes to be interconnected is a much better approach as it lets each unique aspect of Digimon be tied together through mechanics and gameplay while maintaining the recognizability of Digivolution as we all know it.
Hey can we still get a sequel to digimon adventure 2020 with a lot of improvements
I feel like Bandai has a different idea on what Digimon is on what the fans want it to be after the previous Director of the movies bailed out on creative differences on the themes going forward also not every latest addition has been a good idea in my opinion, also it's rare that we even get anything Digimon related when most of the time when news hits it's a new mobile captcha game for the Chinese and Japanese markets and card games.
hope they bring it to the west and not just asian countries and america, i loved Digimon Dusk, Dawn, Championship, Digimon world 2003, Digimon world (although i sucked at the game) and Digimon world ds. Also loved watching it every saturday morning until we got sky tv and could watch it every day.
In August we'll have an anime update
On Odiba day?
Whys that?
@@michaelbarrett8141 The date the children went to the Digital World in Adventure which is August 1.
@@melissamurray8307 hell yeah
briefly looking through the comments I'm seeing that generally most people are either against or neutral towards any sort of unification attempts. I personally love the fact that digimon traditionally hasn't been super centralized, as it allows for greater creativity in projects
I wouldn't mind perhaps an attempt to keep digimon within the established evolution stages in order to avoid things like frontier and xros wars, but an attempt to make everything the same going forward seems boring
you could use lore to tie things like evolution, stages and digivices to all other universes by saying that these things are core to the digital world, using the digital world as more of an expanded multiverse rather than a collection of individual and completely separate worlds, all while still allowing for more creative methods of evolution, different uses of digivices and connecting to different parallel human/analog worlds
I believe this can be huge, if they do it correctly. Pokemon is a hot steaming pile of ____, besides the games- but even the games aren't that great anymore in my opinion. The trading card game is overrated, and was really fun during it's start in the late 90s.
The show, and any games based off of Digimon have the potential to get as big as Pokemon if done right... They can focus on the trading-playing card game when the series and games pick up traction...
I agree. Outside of a couple of exceptions like Ash and Pikachu or Team Rocket, Digimon has the better bonds with their monsters.
@@melissamurray8307 Yeah with the exception of old, original Pokemon.
I think they could really revitalize the series but makes really HQ digivices that aren't tied to the show but just focus on a quasi AI digimon companion. Just make it a all new look.
In all honesty they can just go the Gundam Timeline route. One main universe and the other being separated universe with there own timeline. This might become complicated like in the Zelda timeline.
really hope *X-Evolution* get more love 🥺
can you talk about many Digimon games that didn't get localized 😢
How about focus on what made Digimon great in the first place. Great characters, character development, a soundtrack that slaps and cool monsters. Seems like an easy formula.
I would really like a Digimon story game where you can choose Herissmon to be your partner also I hope Rasenmon gets a X antibody
We just need a story heavy digimon show. Even new fans would like story and character development. They are treating people today like if they are mindless. Once you think less of your fans it will show and people will lose interest.
Ngl I think that Digimon isn’t as popular in the west because the franchise is all over the place, not really knowing what it wants to be, and it can often turn people away from the franchise as a whole. Growing up, I remember digimon adventure being well known, but nobody knew about the other shows unless they were hardcore fans of the franchise. I remember really liking to adventure, but I wasn’t big of fan of the other shows that followed. Some of them didn’t have the same vibe as Adventure and felt like a different franchise all together. It was just hard to keep track of it because every season was pretty much a reboot of the franchise. You have to learn how that new world works and get accustomed to a new group of characters/mechanics. I think that they should have stuck with the adventure, format. They could have swapped out characters along the way/throughout the seasons, introducing new characters. Similar how they did with the Pokémon anime. If you take a look at popular shows in the genre like Pokémon, they stay with Ash and familiar characters along their journey throughout multiple regions and multiple seasons. And when it comes to their games, they stick to a formula that works, and the games are high-quality for the most part, unlike a lot of Digimon games. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think that having spin offs and trying new things is bad, but I think that they should’ve had a main line series that was strong enough to familiarize people with the franchise so that spinoffs can be successful on their own
The problem with Pokémon is that there isn’t much of a storyline weave between the seasons. It’s basically the same story told over and over again.
I think the creators should create a new show as a bit of a soft reboot and go from there. Make most things part of the new world instead of jumping all over. Also it would hurt to try improving the marketing. I’m a long time fan of the franchise but didn’t know they even had a new series.
I really want a Digimon Fighting game! 😶
I'd get that game. I used to have Digimon Rumble Arena for PS1 when I was a kid.
Maybe the animation style could be like Dragonball FighterZ?
How about Digimon Tekken? Pokemon Tekken Was really good. I still play it now.
@@michaelbarrett8141 Digimon Tekken/SoulCalibur would be awesome
I think they need to find a focus first. Even with this project reboot they keep trying to appeal to everyone which is spreading their resources thin. It’s hard to bring in a new audience when each individual project appeals to a different person. The only IP to be able to accomplish reaching so many people are those that are already popular enough to have a large core audience.
A digimon world next order like game made in unreal 5 with no loading screens would be a popular one.
I got so hyped about a Digimon reboot cus the last couple years have been kinda meh only to realise that WAS the reboot... 😭
Now to get some of this and older stuff dubbed. I don't care if many fans hate it, I just want Digimon to live on in English and japanese. Just want them to live on
Dont forget Europe too
I wish they'd give us the cast we love with stories that we actually wanted. Why is that so hard for them to figure out?
theres alot of main casts in the digimon multiverse
If only there was better writing, game direction, advertising, etc. I can go on and on, but the point is that they have plenty of reasons why the franchise isn't as popular as before and it never will be until they get their act together.
truth
The main reason Digimon is in life support right now, is because Bandai doesn't care for western audiences.
They don't release merchandise, TCG, anime, etc, here, and ignoring Europe and the US as potential markets is just plain STUPID.
Heck, it barely cares about it eastern audiences either.
Palworld showed the whole WORLD there's space and public for a more "mature" competitor to pokémon, and they're STARVING for it.
Toei, using the same shared universe formula as marvel, DC, the monsterverse would totally be a piece of cake for the Digimon franchise
no thanks. boring.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 shared universes are becoming as boring as Multiverse stories?
How about doing a prequel to Xros Wars?.
Would be so easy for them to make Digimon popular again.. JUST RELEASE A GOOD GAME! They keep releasing garbage low effort games for a quick cash grab. Imagine if instead of palworld we got a open world digimon game instead. Digimon's popularity would've soared, but no.... They won't allow that.
i miss digimon ghost game
Has one of the best Digivices too and a low cost fit bit.
Its mediocre because of it s Flaws. But if that Flaws can be fixed a Continuation would make Sense. Its actually one of my Fanfictions a Second Part of Ghost Game im working on.
02 reboot please
Let’s hope this pans out better than Transformers’ Aligned Continuity.
I'll take another Braves series to just Transformers.
This really should have been done early on, and they have been fumbling with the products due to an over reliance on nostalgia and the mistaken belief that kids can't pay attention. They are also heavily reluctant to define what a digimon is and what it can or cannot do which the franchise sorely needs.
Most digimon game suffer from the same problem, grinding, in pokemon max level is 100, but in digimon you evolve and regenerated again and again, so the grinding become a hassle
Digimon in the first place is based from tamagochi. U get an egg, u train it and battle. Its their mistake in the first plave to go turn-based. While i do like their turn based games, it remove the essence of digimon in the first place. Just b3cause a game is popular, they ahould not followed the trend during that time. If they expend the mechanic and stick on the route using digimon world 1 as core gameplay, they might be more popular now.
@@daegograndynte2771 he just pointed out how much of chore the grind is, we all already know digimon is based on vpets, thats common Knowledge nowdays
No one is asking to them remove the core component of the games
I hope a port of redigitze decode would get localized eventually.....
I still hold out hope for a remake of Digimon World 2, and new X virus based games
Just make sequels or reboots of the first 4 series and you got everything.
just make a vpet oriented series, instant success
While every season has its own unique take every season has children bonding with their Digimon partner or spirit, growing as a person and saving two or more worlds.
yes cuz thats the entire premise of digimon. i want continuity. at least the digimon and their levels need to remain consistent throughout.
@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 I see you point, but only two I know of Frontier and Xros Wars is something different. I haven’t seen Appmon or Ghost Game yet so I am not sure about them.
@@melissamurray8307 appmon has a different "leveling" system as well. GG had normal leveling, but gammamon had his slide evolution gimmick which was pretty cool in my opinion.
I still havent seen the rebooted Digimon adventures
I just wanna see shinegreymon and masaru again
💙
I’m still mad that they’re cancelling the vital bracelet
I just want them to make more vpets and actually give western releases too them
It's time to yapp 😮💨
The digimon franchise is in life sport right. now the last game was survive a game that announced in 2018 got delayed and released in 2022 that's 4 years and got mixed reviews because bandai doesn't know how to-do advertising 😑
The story game digimon story cyber sleuth released in 2015 for the ps vita the sequel Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth - Hacker's Memory released in 2017 for the ps4 and we got the complete collection for switch and windows in 2019 that's five years of cyber sleuth and they announced that they are working on a new story game in 2017 but now we are in 2024 that 7 years of waiting for something may end up being mid at bast
(this is not going to be the next BOTW)
The world title got fucking shafted the most. they got one game that is Digimon World: Next Order in 2016 for the ps vita got released in 2017 for the ps4 and the switch and windows in 2023 that's 6 to 7 years gap (and no digimon cyber sleuth DLC doesn't count they are using the same (assets
That 2 ps vita games be holding this game franchise for 10 years
Vital Bracelet are dead in this year so goodbye pulsemon and ghost game and seekers we will remember you in the next Memorial event 🙃
And then announced some movies for
Nostalgia Bait 😑
And now there focusing on the TCG with no official online game (like duel links and .master duel)
And Digimon Liberator an online comic and web novel with no anime adoption
In a year people are quieting card games like yugioh 😭
I'm a digimon fan but Like what is bandai cooking here
du hast vor 4 jahren ein video mit 1319 digimon gemacht und jetzt währe es schon wenn es ein zweites video mit den nummern 1320 bis 1506 geben könnte ❗❗❗❗‼❓
I want a anime were we see alternate ty and he has a vetramon that big blue digimon and it’s a more darker tone
Makes Digimon aimed at younger audience, fails to gain a younger audience also disappoints older fans.
Makes Digimon v-pet for older fans, exceeds expectations.
Hmmmmmmm what should we do?
I know! How about we tell older fans they're too old and they need to let go of Digimon!
😓
Digimon Tamers Sequel Plzz!!! Stop fing around Bandai and make it!! 😢