Thanks for all the comments! I love when people chime in and not just on the compliments... alot of experts and pros watch these drops, and I want ALL the feedback!!! the times I've learned the most is when I surround myself with people better than me.... that's alot of my career, to be honest, and it's humbling but enlightening. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!!! more Camaro soon, More more more everything soon! We're finally gonna PAINT something soon!!
Don't be so hard on yourself Kevin. Ship happends. I have been watching you for decades. We are old. I know you are a master at what you do. I do get the seriousness of the mistake. But, everything worked out the best it could have. I am glad you showed the mistake ( unlike a lot of people would have) and showed us how to fix it. Thank you.
Like you say, the ability to get yourself out of trouble will make or break you. I attended RSI (Refrigeration School Inc) in Phoenix Az back in 1986. One instructor told us, we'll give the knowledge to get yourself in trouble but, you have to learn how to get yourself out. That held true in the years I did HVAC for a living and I got myself in trouble many a time but figured out how to get it done. When it comes to body work, that's not my favorite thing to do. I'd rather be working on wiring or the mechanical end of things. Love the videos you do, never stop!
Nice to see someone that shows his mistakes a true technician is one that knows how to repair mistakes you can see you care about the quality of the job
I’ll never paint a car of my own. However, it would be great to take my vacation working alongside someone like yourself just to learn more about the craft.
I used yo hang out as a little kid in the garage when my 8 yrs older bro and his budfies wrre working on cars in the 50's. Learned how to de-dent, do leading, bondo and of course, sand... Sand... Sand... Sand! Seemed like 20 mins of that bodywork became 2 to 4 hours of sanding and blocking. LOL. Love how you are keeping it real👍
Tubing that a little bit is sweet. Definitely going to get some wider tires under there but it's no longer going to the wood store and bringing back 4x8 sheets of plywood that fit in between them. But that's okay, when you can afford to do something like that you usually got a spare truck that you can get your lumber with. 😂
I’ve been a fan of yours since back in the early days of the power block. Back then I was working paint prep in a shop through high school, and then took a job as a PPG jobber for a lot of shops. I had a 51 Chevy truck I bought as an unfinished project, and instead of spending a week or two getting it together and functional, I decided to blow it apart and it ended up moving along to its third owner as a project. You did beautiful work, and all of the magazines at the time said everything had to be mirror perfect, and have every part possible replaced with polished billet aluminum. I’m glad that you inspired me to learn what right looked like, but I wish there had been voices like Derek or David Frieburger saying it was okay to just get the project running and on the road. I have an OBS short wide single cab now that I’m holding off on paint and body until I’m able to do it right. I also have an ext cab Nissan hardbody that I’m planning on making into a 90’s style mini truck with wild graphics and sitting in the weeds for my sons when they get their DL. That’s coming sooner than I’d like to think. I started life over about 5yrs ago, and I now have a 8mo baby who also had a project. Instead of a stroller, I’m working on her radio flyer being slammed in the weeds and hotrodded. Thanks for continuing to be an inspiration, teacher, and icon in the automotive community!
wow, I'm humbled.... what nice things to say. Congrats on your family, and I think it's awesome that you're doing a slammed Radio Flyer!!! The trucks will wait for ya, your kids need you more than you know, (while they're still kids) I agree, Friburger and Derek have created a new acceptance of not perfect rides, and I personally LOVE the way they show that it's better to get a vehicle out and drive it than it is to leave it in a shed and hope... Thanks for keeping up with me here.... I've got alot going on outside of RUclips, but I really like this format and that it allows me to be a little more FREE than TV ever did. Thanks man!
Sand, sand, sand, sand. My daughter’s first car was a 95 BMW with peeling paint. She wanted to kill me because I spent a year (after work etc.) stripping fixing, blocking, fixing, blocking, fixing, blocking before paint went on. It was worth it because the dark green came out beautifully. Of course it got totaled and sold but I’ve got the satisfaction of completing it. Looking forward to what you will be doing for the bed floor.
Seeing the damage inflicted on the bed reminds me of a saying we had at the restoration shop I worked at some years back. "We don't have the time to fix it right but we have the time to fix it twice."
I've always said that body men are magicians. Mechanical work is an absolute and defined skill but body work is finesse and requires that you use your learned skills and abilities. I'm always impressed, Kevin. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Brother! BUt I'll argue a little.... it's all procedure. it might be layered and complicated, but it's all a step by step process. Thanks for the kindness!
Kevin I really appreciate the way you edit your videos. I think it give a better sense of what it takes to do this work. It’s not a quick process to do a good job 👍 thanks for all your hard work. It’s greatly appreciated!! 😅
Thanks Kevin,. I am 63 and glad I came from a time without all the PPE :) I may regret it someday but I just cant imagine gloves and mask while sanding. Not saying you are wrong. Just saying I would not want to do it. But I wet sanded mostly too. I have used the power guide coats but still keep a can of black primer around as for whatever reason it works better for me. Love what you are doing with the truck. I almost bought a 454SS a year old back in the day and I may again !
RIch, the first shops I worked at ( back in the 80's, yes... I'm that old too!) we used lacquer primer, and had a community "primer-gun" on a benchtop that was always loaded with primer, and we used over-reduced black lacquer paint as guide coat... Red Nitrostan putty too! I can still smell those shops when I close my eyes... Thanks for watching!!
Great nuggets of information in this one, explaining why you spread the mud thin so it doesn't kick as fast as something I didn't know and will use from now on. Also the wiping with thinner before sanding to take that sheen/resin layer off for easy sanding. Oh yeah and the using your expired respirator for dust mask. You probably didn't even realize all the wisdom you shared in just a few comments. Love the channel Kev, keep it up.
As a learner I appreciate the longer run time. So often I start to wonder "why is this taking me so long?" when the reality is it's not taking a long time, its taking the amount of time it takes on top of inexperience. I think the full length is a nice guidepost for someone who is questioning their methods
Getting it right takes time. Sanding it boring, but you are showing it because it is a realistic time comparison between the fun and the drudgery (sanding) and the final result will reflect that effort.
Mark, I also want to show sanding technique and tools that are helpful.... and some "Best Practice" stuff that can help everyone.... yup, it's boring ,but there's alot of "wrong" that can happen... Thanks for watching!!!
I spent all last summer prepping, painting, sanding, painting, sanding, painting and sanding and buffing and sanding and buffing on the coupe. I finally had to just stop and say good enough. It could still use some surface correction, but it's good enough for me at this time. Reassembly included wiring and I'm not sure which I like less. LOL Fortunately, I had already ran and wrapped it has a harness before I tore it apart for paint. So it was mostly plug and play. The car will on public view for the first time in its (mostly) finished state since about 1963 next Thursday at the Rodders Reunion at the Agricenter in Memphis, TN. It'll get there on a trailer as I don't have license on it yet but I hope to drive it into the building. Another first since about 1968. I'm enjoying your content and just glad it's you and not me doing all that sanding. LOL
You'd be surprised!! I volunteer at colleges, and have trade school training courses, and there are some incredible technicians coming up.... It's our job to get a few more interested.. but I have great hope for this trade!!.
I like watching you work. I know you have a deadline to get Derek's truck finished, and while I am a bigger garbage camaro fan, I learn from all you do on the channel. The end result is always worth watching some sanding and your process. There are always those who will complain about everything. Pay them no mind. You're doing great!
I have tons of respect for anyone that admits to their mistakes and not hide it. It would have been easy for you to hide that this happened, but you didn't. You admitted to it, owned up to it, and showed how to fix it. Great video!
Good ole mop & glo!😁 Another good alternative would be the UV version with the UV light set up Also a high build but a bit spendy,works way fast Thanks Kevin for sharing!
Some of us only learn from our mistakes, but some of us can learn from other's mistakes also. You took a 30 minute job and turned it in to a 30 minute job and a 6 hour repair. I've done similar things myself. Thanks for showing us you're human.
Just a quick comment. I worked at Lockheed Martin for a few years building canopies for the F-22 and F-16 fighters. When it came time to wipe down the structures, Lockheed required a double Ray process. One rag had a specific solvent and the second rag was a clean, dry rag. One followed the other immediately. The first rag would lift any dirt or grease and the second would remove it. It was repeated till the second rag was clean. Cleanliness was paramount, as it should be.
Yes sir! Bodyshop final cleaning is the same.... except the first rag has been replaced with an atomizing bottle that shoots a fine mist.... less waste, better control, and only one ( evacuation) rag is required. final cleaners ( water based & solvent based) are designed, as you know, to "lift" contamination and suspend it in the liquid, the evacuate it off the panel with the clean dry rag.
I enjoy watching you struggle with simple things. I have been a body man for 40 years. You create more work than you need to do. But it is entertaining 😁
Well David, that's probably the most openly sadistic comment I've ever read, but it's strangely satisfying... LOL! Kidding! Thanks for watching. I want to demonstrate that this trade is alot of work, but there are many rewards! I appreciate you!!
I think the "instant gratification" mentality of people is what has gotten into people , I remember when I was in highschool Auto shop class , I had the privilege of being involved in the restoration of 3 different vehicles , a 67 Ford bronco, a 72 C10 and a 63 Ford Thunderbird and I spent as much time as I could in shop class working on them even went there during study hall to sand and shape the panels. As well as all the other work we did in that class
I come to this channel to learn. So, each step is important to me. If I don't learn the proper steps, my work will look bad, and I will lose interest in my project. I'd like to be proud of my work. So thank you, Kevin, for all the work you do on your channel.
ID10T! 😂 I remember reading that short story at the bottom of a page in Reader's Digest decades ago. Plus, I have indeed also paid my share of Stupid Taxes. 😮
Bodywork is Not easy,thank you for showing how much work it is when done properly. Next time someone says “how much did you pay for your paint job? “ One can just send them to your channel and let them see for themselves. Thank you again for doing these videos 😁
This is such a great video. This shows you how to fix potential mistakes that can take place, without freaking out, and panicking. Thank you for sharing this with us. Accidents happen, and you're showing everyone how to fix a problem. Great info!
Most people don't understand what and how long it takes to do it right without giving up and seeing it through to the end so sand on. 90% prep 10%paint
A newbie needs to see and understand that sanding is not a 15-minute process, and Kevin's attention to detail is also necessary to have the quality end product.
As a DIY guy I have done some body work. I look to channels like yours to see if there is any way to do it faster. Nope, you have convinced me that doing body work is just a lot of work. Other than a few hacks, you can't skip a step or cheat your way though a project. You just have to have patience and do the job. Thanks!
Wyatt, there DEFINITLY ARE ways to speed the process up..... Machine sanders, Wet on wet sealers, back to back high speed products, one-coat speed-clears designed for minimum cycle times, I could blast through prep and get a decent looking paintjob on this truck in 3 days ( three hard days, granted!) but the details wouldn't be there.... my point in showing all the little steps I show, especially in the upcoming episodes, is how to achieve ABOVE AVERAGE results. this brings to mind another great idea.... lets show HOW FAST I can prep a car and get a "GOOD" paintjob on a vehicle, rather than a show-worthy job. That sounds like fun! Would you watch that one? I got time saving secrets buddy! I spent alot of years in collision repair and I can remember all the time savers! Let me know what you think!
@@1990smitch Hmmm, I'll be walking you through the paint and polish before Christmas.... toss in a Camaro Ep and some others as well!!! Hitting a stride now buddy!!!
This was an excellent episode. At first I thought why didn’t he weld the holes. And then I remembered the episode with spraying the underside with that rubberized paint. Good knowledge to use a variety of materials to achieve these results.
Thank you! There is an incredible life lesson in "mistakes happen, it's what you learn and do from there that matters". Most people would have kept this off camera. Thank you also for the tips, the scuff pad on sandpaper is genius. Question, if you don't mind, on the brushed primer. Would you see better initial results with a better brush, or does the product self level so well it doesn't matter? See you Tuesday ~ Chuck P.S. Your camera person does an excellent job!
@ Thank you for all the time you put into this and especially for answering my question. I have a bit of work coming up that I think that technique will work perfectly for. Again, much obliged ~ Chuck
Something you could try with the paint spreader: You could possibly use a heat gun to shape the exact form of the truck bed by getting the plastic hot enough to melt into the shape... basically a molded paint spreader. Edit (When I do ask myself something, it is also Kevin I am asking}
I know ya from music city trucks and the other programs involved around the group. I thought i new that voice and face from a tv show around that group.
As useful as the video instruction was, the most important part was your summary -- it's SO IMPORTANT for novices to see that even experts make mistakes but they can be resolved with lots of sanding.... LOL. Your tip about filler drying slower on the mixing board is so counterintuitive! Finally, how were you able to keep using the same brush for the Superbuild 4:1 after the first coat dried??
Nick, thanks for recognizing the "true message" of this episode... TDS tells us that the pot life on that product is 40 minutes.... flashtime is 10... Simply, I left it in the container and just applied a second, and thicker coat within the pot life. ALSO, paint products dry ( as you know ) faster in thinner layers ( not true in the case of the exothermic filler due to the different chemistry) so it naturally flashed faster on the panel that it thickened up in the mixing cup. Great observations!! Thanks man!
No worries, I work strictly in fiberglass, mostly in the marine industry. When I get asked what I do for a living, I simply reply, "I'm a professional sander."..😁
Good work and content you are right in saying sand is minontois but it also is more minontois when you have to do it twice because you did it wrong the first time so watching you teaching as you do it the right way is awesome thanks for the knowledge brother always inspiring to watch your video's
Great video for me. I saved it because I am going to need this video when I get to my truck bed. Paint job scuff and paint great paint job sand, sand, sand, test, sand sand... Thanks Kevin
That's the whole difference between a pro and an ametuer, the pro knows what to do to fix the stupid mistakes everyone makes and make it look like the mistake never happened.
At the boat yard we called sanding rubbery mud was hot sanding... be careful doing that and vacuuming the dust up that with other dusty contaminates can combust. But a great method for fast cutting
Hey I discovered your channel when you did the vice grip collab. Been watching your content since you were on Trucks. I like that you are showing the entire process. You don’t see this much detail on a cable tv show. I’m excited to see how these project cars come out. Keep up the awesome work!
Would it make sense to use a scale for mixing your fillers? I used a lot of adhesives in my work, we always used a scale to ensure strength and durability.
I know several custom shops that do use scales. The correct ratio is 2% by weight, and it matters inconsistency from batch to batch if you want everything perfect. Especially if you're skinning body filler over an entire vehicle which a lot of custom shops do to have control over the surface. Good point!
That’s a pretty serious mess up there isn’t it buddy❤? We get the gist of it. Let’s move on show us the next step. I don’t wanna watch you sit there and sand and sand and sand and let’s move on man come on. You’re saying the Bondo issue is body. Men had to learn to be real body men when they found out that you couldn’t lay it on thick ha ha ha ha. The vacuum hall is on that DA looks like it sucks😊 I hear you Kevin that’s cool. I’ll shut up. It’s all good brother. I’m just giving you a bad time. I don’t mean to upset you, brother. Keep on sending Sand and Sand and Sand brother. I love to watch you sand you’re the one doing all the work ha ha ha.😅❤❤❤ What do you think of me Kevin I still give you my thumbs up. Love you, brother. Keep on saying Sand and Sand and Sand and Sand and Sand.
Sanding , sanding, sanding. My shop teacher told us day one forget about spraying anything the first year guys are going to have sore elbows and he wasn’t kidding . Most guy’s dropped the class . I still had dreams of painting my firebird to look like Burt’s and getting an A to do it . Public education in the 80s . I feel sorry for today’s kids.
@@robfdavis Thanks man!! s Glad you're liking the content enough to come back! I know RUclips is free to watch, but the time I'm asking for from everyone is not. and I SINCERELY value everyone that takes the time to be a part of this community I'm hoping to build . :)
@paintucation I like details from time to time, I had my share of sanding on wood projects in high school shop classes.. I know there's a lot of time in sanding and making sure it's smooth and right. One thing with paint and metal and fillers you can add to it. Wood you can't unless you are covering it up with paint... I love watching and learning about stuff like this... it's just some of the stuff gets monotonous without some copyright free tunes in the drone of the da's sanding... sometimes Derek from VCC misses a/the detail/details... or goes off on his bits and bobs, this and that's.
I once got the job of re painting a rough old truck canopy , the sides were corrugated and there was peeling paint from poor prep before painting was done in the past ( as is usual) , so I had to hand wet sand with a block in between the corrugations to smooth out the peeling, Id say , it was the worst painting job I've ever done , it was sand, sand , and more sanding, and when I went to bed , I dreamed ( more like a nightmare) that I was still up the ladder sanding the damn thing .Quite bizarre. 🙂
I hereby admit that I would watch a 8 hour video of the process of prep, sanding, painting, anything related to bodywork. The way I see it, that 8 hour marathon may include something that most might not pick up on, but it may spark a question about something. By the way, admittance of mistakes to me indicates a true professional, hiding mistakes in editing says that the “professional” may not be all that is cracked up to be.
Hey Kevin! I just stumbled across what must have been one of the original Paintucation series you did on an ancient hard drive (that I was just about to erase!). You looked like you were about 15! Hahaha. (ok, maybe not that young).
What are your thoughts on using an epoxy like JB weld on small holes ? I haven’t noticed any shrinkage or cracking where I’ve used it but I wonder about long term with exposer to moisture.
I've used it to fix vintage steering wheels.... never body panels. my only concern is the hardness of the cured material... much harder than polyester filler and can sand differently that poly.... otherwise it makes sense!
You went thru and sanded with 180 and 220. Then used cup brush, Isn't that more aggressive? Also when repairing your mishap. Looked like small dark spot on pass side by wheel tub area. Although it did not burn thru like driver side. Could it of bubbled/delay under the top surface?
Could be a bubble... it happened other places. thanks, I'll have to go back and check. Cup brush is pretty aggressive, I'm going with a 2K on top, but I don't want too heavy of a scratch to fill. Good eye!!!
@paintucation love watching your clips, have seen and learned alot over the years. Was just curious of the cup brush scratches. The one I have is aggressive, didn't know if was such a thing as softer, making lighter scratches
On your short tool tip videos, can you highlight various fillers, primers and paint systems? I've been out of the P&B industry since 1991 but I'm getting back in it as I restore several of my cars. I know we didn't have some of those filler options back then or primes. I was familiar with DuPont and Sickens paint system products but that has all changed I'm sure. The graphite powder system for a guide coat is new to me. Great product! I'm getting some of that. I bought the masking tape system by Tape Caddy you highlighted the other day. Great product!
Thanks for all the comments! I love when people chime in and not just on the compliments... alot of experts and pros watch these drops, and I want ALL the feedback!!! the times I've learned the most is when I surround myself with people better than me.... that's alot of my career, to be honest, and it's humbling but enlightening. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!!! more Camaro soon, More more more everything soon! We're finally gonna PAINT something soon!!
Don't be so hard on yourself Kevin. Ship happends. I have been watching you for decades. We are old. I know you are a master at what you do. I do get the seriousness of the mistake. But, everything worked out the best it could have. I am glad you showed the mistake ( unlike a lot of people would have) and showed us how to fix it. Thank you.
I appreciate that . Thanks for watching. :)
@@daveyriddle863 facts . Most would of had fixed behind the scene. But true professional show a mishap and turn it into a good tutorial.
Like you say, the ability to get yourself out of trouble will make or break you. I attended RSI (Refrigeration School Inc) in Phoenix Az back in 1986. One instructor told us, we'll give the knowledge to get yourself in trouble but, you have to learn how to get yourself out. That held true in the years I did HVAC for a living and I got myself in trouble many a time but figured out how to get it done. When it comes to body work, that's not my favorite thing to do. I'd rather be working on wiring or the mechanical end of things. Love the videos you do, never stop!
Thanks man!!!!
Nice to see someone that shows his mistakes a true technician is one that knows how to repair mistakes you can see you care about the quality of the job
That's the ONLY way we really learn...
I just spent an hour watching kevin sand and enjoyed it. I think I might be crazy.. lol.
Well, I spent about 3 days making a video about sanding.... so I think we're both crazy! LOL!
Sanding is very satisfying! As Barney Fife would say, "it's very thera-petic". Yes, I misspelled that exactly how he says it!
Appreciate that integrity Kevin! Love this project and the Garbage Camaro!
Thanks!!! Camaro is coming back soon!
I’ll never paint a car of my own. However, it would be great to take my vacation working alongside someone like yourself just to learn more about the craft.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge Your lack of ego is refreshing.
LOL! Thanks man, I'm glad you're here watching!
I like it that you show the whole process it learns me stuff
I agree. I have stopped watching some sites because they talk about what they did and time laps the actual work.😊😊😊
I used yo hang out as a little kid in the garage when my 8 yrs older bro and his budfies wrre working on cars in the 50's. Learned how to de-dent, do leading, bondo and of course, sand... Sand... Sand... Sand! Seemed like 20 mins of that bodywork became 2 to 4 hours of sanding and blocking. LOL. Love how you are keeping it real👍
I'm enjoying this and the Camaro learning something new each time in the form of tips and tricks
Tubing that a little bit is sweet. Definitely going to get some wider tires under there but it's no longer going to the wood store and bringing back 4x8 sheets of plywood that fit in between them. But that's okay, when you can afford to do something like that you usually got a spare truck that you can get your lumber with. 😂
I’ve been a fan of yours since back in the early days of the power block. Back then I was working paint prep in a shop through high school, and then took a job as a PPG jobber for a lot of shops. I had a 51 Chevy truck I bought as an unfinished project, and instead of spending a week or two getting it together and functional, I decided to blow it apart and it ended up moving along to its third owner as a project.
You did beautiful work, and all of the magazines at the time said everything had to be mirror perfect, and have every part possible replaced with polished billet aluminum. I’m glad that you inspired me to learn what right looked like, but I wish there had been voices like Derek or David Frieburger saying it was okay to just get the project running and on the road.
I have an OBS short wide single cab now that I’m holding off on paint and body until I’m able to do it right.
I also have an ext cab Nissan hardbody that I’m planning on making into a 90’s style mini truck with wild graphics and sitting in the weeds for my sons when they get their DL. That’s coming sooner than I’d like to think.
I started life over about 5yrs ago, and I now have a 8mo baby who also had a project. Instead of a stroller, I’m working on her radio flyer being slammed in the weeds and hotrodded.
Thanks for continuing to be an inspiration, teacher, and icon in the automotive community!
wow, I'm humbled.... what nice things to say. Congrats on your family, and I think it's awesome that you're doing a slammed Radio Flyer!!! The trucks will wait for ya, your kids need you more than you know, (while they're still kids) I agree, Friburger and Derek have created a new acceptance of not perfect rides, and I personally LOVE the way they show that it's better to get a vehicle out and drive it than it is to leave it in a shed and hope... Thanks for keeping up with me here.... I've got alot going on outside of RUclips, but I really like this format and that it allows me to be a little more FREE than TV ever did. Thanks man!
Sand, sand, sand, sand. My daughter’s first car was a 95 BMW with peeling paint. She wanted to kill me because I spent a year (after work etc.) stripping fixing, blocking, fixing, blocking, fixing, blocking before paint went on. It was worth it because the dark green came out beautifully. Of course it got totaled and sold but I’ve got the satisfaction of completing it. Looking forward to what you will be doing for the bed floor.
Seeing the damage inflicted on the bed reminds me of a saying we had at the restoration shop I worked at some years back. "We don't have the time to fix it right but we have the time to fix it twice."
YUP!!!!! AND...... That mistake will NEVER happen again! It's painful and cost me hours that I'll never get back..
I've always said that body men are magicians. Mechanical work is an absolute and defined skill but body work is finesse and requires that you use your learned skills and abilities. I'm always impressed, Kevin. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Brother! BUt I'll argue a little.... it's all procedure. it might be layered and complicated, but it's all a step by step process. Thanks for the kindness!
Fact is with bodywork and paint, 90% of it is prep work and 10% is painting.. Good job Kevin!!
Kevin I really appreciate the way you edit your videos. I think it give a better sense of what it takes to do this work. It’s not a quick process to do a good job 👍 thanks for all your hard work. It’s greatly appreciated!! 😅
Love watching, have wanted to do this since I was young. 2 car garage just way to small.
Give it a shot! You can do alot in a 2 bay!!
Thanks Kevin,. I am 63 and glad I came from a time without all the PPE :) I may regret it someday but I just cant imagine gloves and mask while sanding. Not saying you are wrong. Just saying I would not want to do it. But I wet sanded mostly too. I have used the power guide coats but still keep a can of black primer around as for whatever reason it works better for me. Love what you are doing with the truck. I almost bought a 454SS a year old back in the day and I may again !
RIch, the first shops I worked at ( back in the 80's, yes... I'm that old too!) we used lacquer primer, and had a community "primer-gun" on a benchtop that was always loaded with primer, and we used over-reduced black lacquer paint as guide coat... Red Nitrostan putty too! I can still smell those shops when I close my eyes... Thanks for watching!!
@@paintucation Been there and done all that too😀
Thanks for the content Kevin! I like to watch your videos because of how transparent you are... you show your mistakes so we all can learn from them.
Call him Kevin Tits ..he likes that 😂
Hey, we all make em, might as well shine a light on how to recover! Thanks man!
Brother that was great an I thank u for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
thx Kevin
I see sanding as a form of sculpting: you begin with a raw surface and, with care and intention, shape it into the desired finish.
I agree, in a sense..... I look at it as a process of refining and correcting a surface, not necessarily creating it.... but same principal.
Thanks Kevin. "Never STOP Learning Because Life NEVER Stops Teaching".
Great nuggets of information in this one, explaining why you spread the mud thin so it doesn't kick as fast as something I didn't know and will use from now on. Also the wiping with thinner before sanding to take that sheen/resin layer off for easy sanding. Oh yeah and the using your expired respirator for dust mask. You probably didn't even realize all the wisdom you shared in just a few comments. Love the channel Kev, keep it up.
As a learner I appreciate the longer run time. So often I start to wonder "why is this taking me so long?" when the reality is it's not taking a long time, its taking the amount of time it takes on top of inexperience. I think the full length is a nice guidepost for someone who is questioning their methods
We gotta keep it real! I want to show the WHOLE process!
Looking really good
Getting it right takes time. Sanding it boring, but you are showing it because it is a realistic time comparison between the fun and the drudgery (sanding) and the final result will reflect that effort.
Mark, I also want to show sanding technique and tools that are helpful.... and some "Best Practice" stuff that can help everyone.... yup, it's boring ,but there's alot of "wrong" that can happen... Thanks for watching!!!
You do great work. I wasn't criticizing you. But sometimes you do more than you have to.
Totally understand! No offense take aat all!! Thanks man! ( I'm still earning as I go. :))
Its all in the prep work! nice work Kevin.
I spent all last summer prepping, painting, sanding, painting, sanding, painting and sanding and buffing and sanding and buffing on the coupe. I finally had to just stop and say good enough. It could still use some surface correction, but it's good enough for me at this time. Reassembly included wiring and I'm not sure which I like less. LOL Fortunately, I had already ran and wrapped it has a harness before I tore it apart for paint. So it was mostly plug and play.
The car will on public view for the first time in its (mostly) finished state since about 1963 next Thursday at the Rodders Reunion at the Agricenter in Memphis, TN. It'll get there on a trailer as I don't have license on it yet but I hope to drive it into the building. Another first since about 1968.
I'm enjoying your content and just glad it's you and not me doing all that sanding. LOL
Congrats on getting it finished!!! I know the reward is amazing!!
Looking at all the time and effort involved, i don't think this generation will have many that are willing to do bodywork! Great job!
You'd be surprised!! I volunteer at colleges, and have trade school training courses, and there are some incredible technicians coming up.... It's our job to get a few more interested.. but I have great hope for this trade!!.
Yes, the time it takes to do bodywork is surprising. Always seems like there are obstacles that come up. Looking forward to the Camaro.
We're planning the next one now... keep checking in! Thanks for watching!
I like watching you work. I know you have a deadline to get Derek's truck finished, and while I am a bigger garbage camaro fan, I learn from all you do on the channel. The end result is always worth watching some sanding and your process. There are always those who will complain about everything. Pay them no mind. You're doing great!
This is as real as it gets..... I hope people watch and learn, and I'll continue to put out what I think is good info! Thanks man!
I have tons of respect for anyone that admits to their mistakes and not hide it. It would have been easy for you to hide that this happened, but you didn't. You admitted to it, owned up to it, and showed how to fix it. Great video!
Glad to see you are human,when I train people in my job all ways tell them learn from your mistakes that is real knowledge
When we hide whaat isn't perfect it comes back to haunt us.... it's hard to admit we massed up, but such and important teaching tool!
Good ole mop & glo!😁
Another good alternative would be the UV version with the UV light set up
Also a high build but a bit spendy,works way fast
Thanks Kevin for sharing!
Some of us only learn from our mistakes, but some of us can learn from other's mistakes also. You took a 30 minute job and turned it in to a 30 minute job and a 6 hour repair.
I've done similar things myself. Thanks for showing us you're human.
Oooooooo Im tellin Derek!!!!!! You gonna be in troubleeeeeee 😮
Noooooo!!!! Lol!
I think he already knows, tattle tale. 😂
Just a quick comment. I worked at Lockheed Martin for a few years building canopies for the F-22 and F-16 fighters. When it came time to wipe down the structures, Lockheed required a double Ray process. One rag had a specific solvent and the second rag was a clean, dry rag. One followed the other immediately. The first rag would lift any dirt or grease and the second would remove it. It was repeated till the second rag was clean. Cleanliness was paramount, as it should be.
Yes sir! Bodyshop final cleaning is the same.... except the first rag has been replaced with an atomizing bottle that shoots a fine mist.... less waste, better control, and only one ( evacuation) rag is required. final cleaners ( water based & solvent based) are designed, as you know, to "lift" contamination and suspend it in the liquid, the evacuate it off the panel with the clean dry rag.
I enjoy watching you struggle with simple things. I have been a body man for 40 years. You create more work than you need to do. But it is entertaining 😁
Well David, that's probably the most openly sadistic comment I've ever read, but it's strangely satisfying... LOL! Kidding! Thanks for watching. I want to demonstrate that this trade is alot of work, but there are many rewards! I appreciate you!!
@@paintucation that's why I retired from the body work. Too much sanding 🤣
@@paintucation by the way I love the f body Camaros. I have probably owned about 30. In my life time. Drove a 1976 rs in high school 😁
Paint is a magnifying liquid once dry it shows all the bad sanding that's why sanding is important !
BINGO!!!
I like all the details, to many people think it take 1 hour to paint a car
Um, nope!!! It's a pretty serious time investment. Thanks for watching man! I appreciate it
OK Kevin My knees hurt just watching this. Get some hockey knee pads or goalie pads bud .
bondo Bobs yer uncle !
I think the "instant gratification" mentality of people is what has gotten into people , I remember when I was in highschool Auto shop class , I had the privilege of being involved in the restoration of 3 different vehicles , a 67 Ford bronco, a 72 C10 and a 63 Ford Thunderbird and I spent as much time as I could in shop class working on them even went there during study hall to sand and shape the panels. As well as all the other work we did in that class
been there... done that... knee pads! They're cheap! And your knees will love you for it.
Yeah, I keep re-learning that! Thanks!
I come to this channel to learn. So, each step is important to me. If I don't learn the proper steps, my work will look bad, and I will lose interest in my project. I'd like to be proud of my work. So thank you, Kevin, for all the work you do on your channel.
I appreciaet that Dean! Trying to create something people can really utilize.Thanks for watching!
Seeing how much sanding went into it gives me such more appreciation of the finished product. Very excited to see how it turns out!
ID10T! 😂 I remember reading that short story at the bottom of a page in Reader's Digest decades ago. Plus, I have indeed also paid my share of Stupid Taxes. 😮
Bodywork is Not easy,thank you for showing how much work it is when done properly. Next time someone says “how much did you pay for your paint job? “ One can just send them to your channel and let them see for themselves. Thank you again for doing these videos 😁
This is such a great video. This shows you how to fix potential mistakes that can take place, without freaking out, and panicking. Thank you for sharing this with us. Accidents happen, and you're showing everyone how to fix a problem. Great info!
On the all you do is sand, anyone who has ever finished anything from a car to a guitar knows that 9/10 of the work is sanding.
Most people don't understand what and how long it takes to do it right without giving up and seeing it through to the end so sand on. 90% prep 10%paint
A newbie needs to see and understand that sanding is not a 15-minute process, and Kevin's attention to detail is also necessary to have the quality end product.
As a DIY guy I have done some body work. I look to channels like yours to see if there is any way to do it faster. Nope, you have convinced me that doing body work is just a lot of work. Other than a few hacks, you can't skip a step or cheat your way though a project. You just have to have patience and do the job. Thanks!
Wyatt, there DEFINITLY ARE ways to speed the process up..... Machine sanders, Wet on wet sealers, back to back high speed products, one-coat speed-clears designed for minimum cycle times, I could blast through prep and get a decent looking paintjob on this truck in 3 days ( three hard days, granted!) but the details wouldn't be there.... my point in showing all the little steps I show, especially in the upcoming episodes, is how to achieve ABOVE AVERAGE results. this brings to mind another great idea.... lets show HOW FAST I can prep a car and get a "GOOD" paintjob on a vehicle, rather than a show-worthy job. That sounds like fun! Would you watch that one? I got time saving secrets buddy! I spent alot of years in collision repair and I can remember all the time savers! Let me know what you think!
@@paintucation I watch every episode and thank you for the kind response.
Derek will never say let’s give it more attention. Let’s just spread and go. That’s awesome that you care that much.
2 years later we may get it bed coated
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@@1990smitch Hmmm, I'll be walking you through the paint and polish before Christmas.... toss in a Camaro Ep and some others as well!!! Hitting a stride now buddy!!!
This was an excellent episode. At first I thought why didn’t he weld the holes. And then I remembered the episode with spraying the underside with that rubberized paint. Good knowledge to use a variety of materials to achieve these results.
Thank you! There is an incredible life lesson in "mistakes happen, it's what you learn and do from there that matters". Most people would have kept this off camera. Thank you also for the tips, the scuff pad on sandpaper is genius. Question, if you don't mind, on the brushed primer. Would you see better initial results with a better brush, or does the product self level so well it doesn't matter? See you Tuesday ~ Chuck P.S. Your camera person does an excellent job!
Hey Chuck! yes, a better brush would do a smoother coat for sure.... and we appreciate the compliment on the camera work! I'll be sure to tell her. :)
@ Thank you for all the time you put into this and especially for answering my question. I have a bit of work coming up that I think that technique will work perfectly for. Again, much obliged ~ Chuck
@@charlesdalton985 Glad it helps!!!!
Something you could try with the paint spreader: You could possibly use a heat gun to shape the exact form of the truck bed by getting the plastic hot enough to melt into the shape... basically a molded paint spreader. Edit (When I do ask myself something, it is also Kevin I am asking}
good idea!
I know ya from music city trucks and the other programs involved around the group. I thought i new that voice and face from a tv show around that group.
good job
As useful as the video instruction was, the most important part was your summary -- it's SO IMPORTANT for novices to see that even experts make mistakes but they can be resolved with lots of sanding.... LOL. Your tip about filler drying slower on the mixing board is so counterintuitive! Finally, how were you able to keep using the same brush for the Superbuild 4:1 after the first coat dried??
Nick, thanks for recognizing the "true message" of this episode... TDS tells us that the pot life on that product is 40 minutes.... flashtime is 10... Simply, I left it in the container and just applied a second, and thicker coat within the pot life. ALSO, paint products dry ( as you know ) faster in thinner layers ( not true in the case of the exothermic filler due to the different chemistry) so it naturally flashed faster on the panel that it thickened up in the mixing cup. Great observations!! Thanks man!
No worries, I work strictly in fiberglass, mostly in the marine industry. When I get asked what I do for a living, I simply reply, "I'm a professional sander."..😁
Hi Kevin it's all about Preparation, if it's not prepared properly your finish won't good, that's what it is all about! 😊
Good work and content you are right in saying sand is minontois but it also is more minontois when you have to do it twice because you did it wrong the first time so watching you teaching as you do it the right way is awesome thanks for the knowledge brother always inspiring to watch your video's
Great video for me. I saved it because I am going to need this video when I get to my truck bed. Paint job scuff and paint great paint job sand, sand, sand, test, sand sand... Thanks Kevin
Great presentation 👍🏼
Carefull with that Optex... That pink has bled through paint. Diy autoschool guy had a meltdown over it.
That's the whole difference between a pro and an ametuer, the pro knows what to do to fix the stupid mistakes everyone makes and make it look like the mistake never happened.
Great Saturday morning breakfast content....good stuff and thanks for the tips....🔧🔧👍
At the boat yard we called sanding rubbery mud was hot sanding... be careful doing that and vacuuming the dust up that with other dusty contaminates can combust. But a great method for fast cutting
Hey I discovered your channel when you did the vice grip collab. Been watching your content since you were on Trucks. I like that you are showing the entire process. You don’t see this much detail on a cable tv show. I’m excited to see how these project cars come out. Keep up the awesome work!
VERY thought out video. Thats what we love about you!
Sometimes it happens buddy. It can be fixed. We all make mistakes 👍💯
Kevin I love all your content but the camaro really brought me in the door. I cannot wait to see more work on it!
Nobodys perfect and you known as well we do you are a master at your craft sir. We need some Camaro content soon!!! lol please!
Right the circle left the circle right the circle left the circle. kevin the new karate kid lol show me sand the bed lol
Would it make sense to use a scale for mixing your fillers? I used a lot of adhesives in my work, we always used a scale to ensure strength and durability.
I know several custom shops that do use scales. The correct ratio is 2% by weight, and it matters inconsistency from batch to batch if you want everything perfect. Especially if you're skinning body filler over an entire vehicle which a lot of custom shops do to have control over the surface. Good point!
That’s a pretty serious mess up there isn’t it buddy❤? We get the gist of it. Let’s move on show us the next step. I don’t wanna watch you sit there and sand and sand and sand and let’s move on man come on. You’re saying the Bondo issue is body. Men had to learn to be real body men when they found out that you couldn’t lay it on thick ha ha ha ha. The vacuum hall is on that DA looks like it sucks😊 I hear you Kevin that’s cool. I’ll shut up. It’s all good brother. I’m just giving you a bad time. I don’t mean to upset you, brother. Keep on sending Sand and Sand and Sand brother. I love to watch you sand you’re the one doing all the work ha ha ha.😅❤❤❤ What do you think of me Kevin I still give you my thumbs up. Love you, brother. Keep on saying Sand and Sand and Sand and Sand and Sand.
LOL! All good, my friend! Thanks for watching! I'm learning as I go too, and trying to have a little fun along the way.
Good one.
Thanks for the video.
Great video, thanks!
Sanding , sanding, sanding. My shop teacher told us day one forget about spraying anything the first year guys are going to have sore elbows and he wasn’t kidding . Most guy’s dropped the class . I still had dreams of painting my firebird to look like Burt’s and getting an A to do it . Public education in the 80s . I feel sorry for today’s kids.
Oh , and see you next week !
@@robfdavis Thanks man!! s Glad you're liking the content enough to come back! I know RUclips is free to watch, but the time I'm asking for from everyone is not. and I SINCERELY value everyone that takes the time to be a part of this community I'm hoping to build . :)
I like the time laps with music over the long winded asmr junk... keep telling yourself we like sanding... lol
I struggle with how to cover so much ground and time. Time lapse shows the passage of time, but robs any detail...
@paintucation I like details from time to time, I had my share of sanding on wood projects in high school shop classes.. I know there's a lot of time in sanding and making sure it's smooth and right. One thing with paint and metal and fillers you can add to it. Wood you can't unless you are covering it up with paint... I love watching and learning about stuff like this... it's just some of the stuff gets monotonous without some copyright free tunes in the drone of the da's sanding... sometimes Derek from VCC misses a/the detail/details... or goes off on his bits and bobs, this and that's.
Great info video
Sounded like the sanding was taking your sanity.
If I had any left.... LOL!
My question was going to be how you made one piece of sandpaper last that long. That scuff pad tip is genius!
Kevin 👍🏻 🙋♂️ 👍🏻
I once got the job of re painting a rough old truck canopy , the sides were corrugated and there was peeling paint from poor prep before painting was done in the past ( as is usual) , so I had to hand wet sand with a block in between the corrugations to smooth out the peeling, Id say , it was the worst painting job I've ever done , it was sand, sand , and more sanding, and when I went to bed , I dreamed ( more like a nightmare) that I was still up the ladder sanding the damn thing .Quite bizarre. 🙂
I hereby admit that I would watch a 8 hour video of the process of prep, sanding, painting, anything related to bodywork. The way I see it, that 8 hour marathon may include something that most might not pick up on, but it may spark a question about something. By the way, admittance of mistakes to me indicates a true professional, hiding mistakes in editing says that the “professional” may not be all that is cracked up to be.
If I profess to be a "Teacher" then I have to tell the truth about ALL of the process, mistakes included. Thanks for the kind words!
Hey Kevin! I just stumbled across what must have been one of the original Paintucation series you did on an ancient hard drive (that I was just about to erase!). You looked like you were about 15! Hahaha. (ok, maybe not that young).
That's weird, cause I'm only 28 now!! LOL! that's cool!!! I remember those days well!
@@paintucation - Uh huh... you're about as 28 as I AM. Ha! :D
We're both Canucks, and the same age I'm pretty sure. ;)
What are your thoughts on using an epoxy like JB weld on small holes ? I haven’t noticed any shrinkage or cracking where I’ve used it but I wonder about long term with exposer to moisture.
I've used it to fix vintage steering wheels.... never body panels. my only concern is the hardness of the cured material... much harder than polyester filler and can sand differently that poly.... otherwise it makes sense!
@ thank you . Great video today
You went thru and sanded with 180 and 220. Then used cup brush, Isn't that more aggressive? Also when repairing your mishap. Looked like small dark spot on pass side by wheel tub area. Although it did not burn thru like driver side. Could it of bubbled/delay under the top surface?
Could be a bubble... it happened other places. thanks, I'll have to go back and check. Cup brush is pretty aggressive, I'm going with a 2K on top, but I don't want too heavy of a scratch to fill. Good eye!!!
@paintucation love watching your clips, have seen and learned alot over the years. Was just curious of the cup brush scratches. The one I have is aggressive, didn't know if was such a thing as softer, making lighter scratches
There's some nice holes you got.The red riding hood
i apricate showing the whole prosses ...it shows how much time and work it take to do what do ...
Probably a dumb question, but why wasn't filling the holes with weld an option? Panel warpage?
Burning my bedliner on the bottom side... I sprayed RAPTOR on the bottom.
Let's go out blaze of glory
Just happened to find this video. Excellent, I have subscribed and hopefully can follow along.
How big of a hole can you fill with that fiberglass filler? Thanks
On your short tool tip videos, can you highlight various fillers, primers and paint systems? I've been out of the P&B industry since 1991 but I'm getting back in it as I restore several of my cars. I know we didn't have some of those filler options back then or primes. I was familiar with DuPont and Sickens paint system products but that has all changed I'm sure.
The graphite powder system for a guide coat is new to me. Great product! I'm getting some of that.
I bought the masking tape system by Tape Caddy you highlighted the other day. Great product!
Watching sanding IS boring but the devil is in the details. Its that boring stuff that gets an amazing paint job.