Listen to "Don't wanna sleep" if you are a "for your love" fans or "Il dono della vita" for old rock vibes. This 17 song album is written for very different kind of fans/situations: "Baby Said" for pop rock, "Timezone" is a power-ballad, "Bla Bla Bla" for Tiktokers, "If not For You" for romantic slow dance, "Gasoline" has a strong bild up for an important social message, "kool kid" is a UK punk punch... every song is well done and has something. They did a wonderful job considering the had no much time to make this LP!
Maneskin were born with the idea of being mainstream. It's what they always wanted. At the same time, they want to feel free to express themselves. Now, I also have been very young and maximalist, but the album isn't all pop rock. I was the first to get desperate listening to Supermodel and Mammamia, but we have to accept that Mammamia is part of what they love to do. They always sang preferably in English, it was the old manager who forced them to sing almost always in Italian. I also prefer them in Italian... but I also know what the real market is like: everyone likes songs in Italian, but few people buy them. And don't forget that there are four of them, with different tastes: this time, instead of amalgamating, they preferred to indulge each other. Each of them could make the songs they wanted or had written as they wanted. What's more, they too grow, mature, change. And let's not forget that their live songs have always been something else. D you really think that Gasoline is rock pop? Or that "Bla bla bla" and "Kool kids" are there to please Americans? And that all those references, that common thread of toxic love of different kinds, are to please an average audience?
yes you're right, lots of people complain and want italian songs and don't listen to the italian songs like la fine.. when i was listening the album the first night i was reading the comments under the english songs of people that were really pissed of but those people didn't even know that "la fine" was out.. .. and the italian songs on the album don't make the views the english ones makes so.. obviously people are not engaged and like you said they always prefered english songs even in the streets . I love the album, because it's their album and i just love them and of course the songs live are gonna be awesome and rock i have no doubt and even if it's not rock.. it will be maneskin so , i will be in no matter what .
Brava Clelia. Ho scritto anche io lo stesso. Poi sono sicuro che se facessero un clone di Teatro d'Ira qualcuno solleverebbe il sopracciglio per dire che hanno esaurito la vena creativa. Su quest'album ci sono alcune canzoni più commerciali, è vero. Ma se avessero diviso l'album in due, da una parte le canzoni prodotte dai vari produttori famosi e dall'altra quelle di Ferraguzzo come le 3 in Italiano, BlaBlaBla, Kool Kids e Gasoline, magari chiamato TdI Volume 2, quest'ultimo album sarebbe stato incensato come e più di Teatro d'Ira Volume 1. È che ci sono persone che non sono mai contente e se non gli fai l'album che vogliono loro si offendono. Fans così è meglio perderli che trovarli. Pur consapevole che Teatro d'Ira era un album fantastico, sono anche rassegnato al fatto che non ha fatto successo nel mercato anglosasssone. Il pubblico americano ha scovato Beggin' ma non ha scovato For Your Love. Colpa anche di TikTok che non sempre seleziona le canzoni migliori da far diventare virali. PS: dato che sono disoccupato, sono contento che abbiano fatto un album solo con 17 canzoni, così ho risparmiato i soldi comprandone uno e non due.
@@Paolo3480 Paolo, il riscontro ce l'abbiamo: Mark Chapman e La Fine sono state chiaramente scritte per l'eventuale "Teatro d'Ira Vol. 2" e non mi sembra che abbiano avuto particolare successo, neanche su RUclips. Il punto è che, secondo me, anche alcuni fan, come gli hater, cercano solo la conferma dei loro pregiudizi, di quello che di loro hanno proiettato sulla band. Non è solo una questione di gusti musicali. Vabbuo', nel frattempo mi sono sfogata tirando sberle a quello con 2 milioni e mezzo di follower. Mi sa che mi serve di nuovo un periodo di disintossicazione.
As i said i love the album, isn't as coherent as teatro d'ira was but is a good showcase to show what they can do, and to show their love for music as a whole. For sure there are more commercial songs in there, but they always wanted to be mainstream and songs like vent'anni are considered commercial in Italy that was their previous market. They want to be big and to have fun doing that and if in the process they keep giving us bangers like baby said and intimate songs like il dono della vita I'm not gonna complain. They are in their early 20 in the end and this is part of their grow, there's plenty of time for a teatro d'ira vol 2. Love you two btw, good povs everyone.
Totally agree! some previous Italian songs might sound totally new and innovative to an American audience, but not for us Italian. That's I believe they should listen to other Italian songs to have a comparison.
@@Claxen11 agree, i noticed it a lot being in the fandom, they go crazy for ballads like vent'anni (that i love) like they are alternative music when is one of the most popular kind of music here.
“teatro d’ira” was rock, but the album that came before, “il ballo della vita” was pop rock, similar to “rush”. they didn’t lose their identity, they’re just very versatile and like to experiment. having said this, i too prefer the hard rock italian songs, so i was very bummed when i found out only 3 out of 17 songs are in italian :(
Yeah , Teatro d'ira was pure rock ,raw. It had more of their Italian songs. Teatro d'ira is a freakin masterpiece IMHO , like it better than the other albums .
Hi! I love love this album!!! I absolutely appreciate your opinions and wish everyone loved it as much as I. I also fell in love with them a couple years ago and have listened to every and I mean every song that I could dig up. They make anything they do special! To me anyways. I think I just personally love them as humans and every interview or point of view that I have heard them talk about over the years is they make music for themselves. They love to experiment and create what they feel not what everyone wants to hear. Damiano has said countless times he loves pop and brings the pop element but all four love different styles. They experimented with each other’s differences and they said English is easier and more fun or less pressure for them. I think you should listen to some interviews from back in the day until now because they’ve been saying the same thing every time. They do what they feel and what they want to experiment with. I expected to hear the passion and love they gave for music. Whether it’s my taste or not they give it their all and I feel it every time. They don’t like being put in a box of just Italian or just rock. They hate labels and think they should be able to make music without being told it’s right or wrong. So whether you hate it or love it they ultimately stayed true to themselves and tried something different for them! They’ve never made an album like this so it’s all new and exciting for them. Any who that’s just what I get from watching their journey unfold and them always having to explain and defend why or what they did. Thank you for all of your awesome reactions!! Maneskins music always sparks a conversation! Have a great day!
Well said. All of you, do you know why Victoria and Thomas kicked out Damiano a first time from the group? Because Damiano wanted to be more pop. He is a funk/pop/rap singer. They clearly said this album has been created adding all their influences. So there are more pop rock song, rock like Mark Chapman (preferred by Thomas), and punk like BlaBlaBla and Kool Kids preferred by Victoria. So we have to accept their different tastes and choose the song we like. Not pretending each time they do a monumental classic rock anthem or a clone of Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin. Måneskin are all 4 lf them. If Damiano is not satisfied because he cannot sing the style he likes, he will probably abandon Måneskin, to sing whatever he wants. And that would be terrible. So keep cool and stop asking for the same thing each time. They will probably change the style and genres many times more.
They explained that this album is a chance to explore all their personal identities and tastes. Therefore I like the variety. I also find it overproduced, but I also think that this is evolution in action. This is not their last album, and they need to break moulds to move on, even if as great ones as Teatro. I really find this one fun. Really great discussion between you two. My favourite review this far. Also, you probably have seen the Ren review hype. I would love to see you both engage with his work. Hi Ren is the thing that broke out, but you can do any of the ones in the overall comments. He is really unique.
Absolutely, the more I listen to the album, the better it gets! 😎❤️ This is a big moment for them. Their live shows are second to none, hope they are ready for the ride because here comes the Hysteria, ha 🤘🏼
I think they are very smart and know what they’re doing. When they started out in Italy, with their first album, they seduced the audience with basically a pop sound. Then they come out couple years later with “Teatro d’ira” and many fans who were just in for the pop sound fell in love with rock. I know for a fact that the next album will have heavier songs. When music becomes a career, you have to be a businessman other than an artist, and that’s totally normal. So playing it safe in this album is, in my opinion, a hella smart move. You’ll be able to make a long career only if you play it smart from the start, and they’re totally doing it.
Yep they are really smart and grew up in the mainstream environment, they know where to push and where to compromise to be successful without losing their soul and carrying on their plan lol
My opinion only but agree with the older guy views..Maneskin know what they are doing,they are versatile ,talented and next time will change it up again..The young guy needs to chill out a bit and not be over critical.When you listen to them you know the sound is ,not artic monkeys etc..cause they have the unique,charismatic Damiano’s voice,,style,no one else like them Wish people would stop talking about past bands or comparisons,they are the present with the flare of being Italian which sets them apart,I love this album and the previous,a 10 from me👏🏼👏🏼
I guess that the perfect words to describe this album are “rock party” where you can find a lot of rock “faces” from pop to punk. Is the way they are, even if someone wants them more rock, they also love pop music made with real instruments…
I loved this album! Idk, maybe it's because I know to expect ANYTHING from them so I never had a singular sound in my head for what I wanted or was expecting from this album, but I think most of the songs are so fun and honestly this album is full of some absolute bangers! I mean I can kinda see where some people are coming from when they say they're disappointed (I personally don't get it though), because those people had their own idea of what they wanted their sound to be. Like others have said, when u compare this to Teatro D'Ira only, it can be a bit like ?? but when u look at ALL their musical sounds over BOTH their previous albums, this album doesn't seem out of left field or a let down at all, at least to me. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in my opinion people are hating on this album more than it deserves. I think they have some really GREAT songs on it. Are there some songs which aren't my favorite? absolutely. But for the most part I think they made some dope music.
Great points of view, both of you! I think the media and the pressure they put on them throughout these months it's what generates the idea that "maneskin is the new rock band that will save rock music from anything more mainstream and commercial". But in reality this is far from maneskin themselves. They never once said they wanted to save rock (save what?! If rock music has a problem it's that is full of fanatics that pontificate over what they think is rock and what not bashing people, artists and their fans without a right analysis or consideration). I think we all should remember that we're talking about guys in their twenties that obtained success maybe too fast and are trying to cope with it at their best, growing , having fun, experimenting sounds and generes. This album was clearly aimed for a north american market (hence the help of those producers) and made obviously "in a rush" (if you compare the time they spend in producing Teatro d'ira). But, i think it's still a great album, full of growth and experiments and serves it's purpose. I think that their uniqueness comes also from their singing in italian, a language not many are used to listen to, and that requires different structures and sounds when creating music. English on the other hand is the mainstream language, it does not carry the same sense of "new and different" that italian has. Maybe it's just one crazy idea of mine but as an italian myself this is what I notice when listening to those two languages.
I appreciate your honesty in your reaction. We all are allowed to have our own opinions in music. And the discussion on music is also so important. :) I would recommend that you watch this producers reaction. ruclips.net/video/d8dOWUy-Hig/видео.html I personally don't feel they are "loosing their sound". There sound keeps evolving. I personally loved the Rush album. But it is completely different from what the have done before. :)
I think this album is a fabulous addition to their discography. 😎❤️ They sound amazing & the new songs will totally expand their audience. Do we see World domination in their future? Maybe So ....
Yes, but we can say that that producer has a purely American pop-rock "ear". In fact, the three Italian songs didn't enthuse him much, because they are the least "Americanized" ones
Nice discussion guys! Don’t disagree with either of you. If you listen to the records from before Teatro, this one is not surprising. Also Damiano is a huge pop fan! Always has been. They clearly want some commercial success in America. I agree that they will probably keep doing a bit of both pop and original Rock. They are good at pretty much any genre. Queen is the the best comparison to this band other than the language issue. They also bounced between Rock and Pop, and in the end ruled the world.
Let's say that the comparison between you two is beautiful. but I think Rusch is a transition record. If we look carefully when in concerts Damiano brings the audience on stage, it is clear that the public does not move like ROKER but more like a disco, this means that these 4 guys are trying to bring ROCK back to life. they themselves never knew it they were all born 2000-2001 so Rock was already dead. I thank every day that fate has given us these 4 boys. I'm 70, I've been waiting my whole life for this to happen. I'm just saying let them grow. time will tell who they are. it's always great to see you together and comment. sorry my english is google translate.Have fun from switzerland
I understand the sense of disappointment - really. I went through my own period of mourning the loss of the “Italian” Må quite early on, when IWBYS and Mammamia were popular. But I’m long past that now, and just accept all the variety that comes from them with huge enjoyment. They have never hidden the fact that they want to pursue this wild ride as far as they can go, and that includes making a more commercial album to get them on the map in America. But even on this album, I differ from your opinion that they sound just the same as any other American pop artist. In any mixed playlist, this group sticks out like a sore thumb. They are instantly recognisable, partly because of Damiano’s vocals, which are unique, but also the very rock-driven instrumentals even on the poppiest of the songs. I find that the use of analogue instrumentals for a rocky dance track quite exciting, and I think these songs are going to absolutely slay live.
I like the album. I think it's generally good, with some excellent songs (such as Gasoline, Kool Kids, Mark Chapman). I think one has to consider that they are not just the "Teatro D'ira's band"... They published one album and one EP, before Teatro D'ira, so I think it is not right judging Rush, only thinking to what they did on Teatro D'ira. If you broaden your perspective, you'll see that they have always been pop-rock oriented. Plus, they always said they wanted to be a mainstream band. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact is that they are eclectic and they do not like just one genre of music. But they are intelligent and they know they will have to satisfy a varied audience. You will always get both pop songs and rock songs by them. Do not worry. By the way, I really like your reactions and your musical dialogues.
I so agree w/u “son”!! Everything u said is exactly what I think. Teatro d’ira was def more “Italian “ influenced & the reason I Love them! (album took me back to my first trip to Italy in the 70’s reminded of the music at the time! Imagine that!! ) This Album is def a “minestrone”of their personalities it’s fun pop rock & yes mostly in English, but Maneskin is young & I’m sure they’ll find their way…like “Dad” said they are growing as they go. 😊🎸
Expectations can be a killer!! In a way you are both right and I appreciate your comments because they come from the love for the band! Teatro d'Ira is not necessarily the "real" Maneskin though, they still need to find their way and they are under too much pressure to do so at this right moment in time, but I am still very much in love with their sound and of course Damiano's voice. I also like the more rock side of them, but I understand they HAD to come out with this for many different reasons. Also it sounds like you heard it before but have we? Not quite...anyway Gasoline is a masterpiece for me. Ciao!
I think that "Teatro d'ira" was more coherent in itself, but I don't agree when you say that they are loosing their soul. If you listen to the album before "Teatro d'ira", called "Il ballo della vita" you can realize that they mainly like experimeting very different styles. And I appreciate this. I think Rush is a further experiment, done while they were giving gigs all aroud the world, so it has the meaning to show how they could still create new things... Thank you for your reaction
you are confusing terms. What they did in il ballo de la vitta was to get into the music. They were very young and yet they made real jewels like Torna a casa and Le parole lontana. Over the years they knew what they wanted and went for it, creating a marvel like the Teatro d'Ira. Any subsequent work was supposed to improve on the previous one, and yet it was a beastly setback. Now they just play pop rock and are just another band that unfortunately lost its identity. What Damiano said in Eurovision "rock never dies" does not agree at all with what they have done in rush, an album that in two months will be totally forgettable while teatro d'ira will endure over time
@@krisgonm8028 your view seem to me sumilar to those who demand rock to be just "pure rock", which is even difficult to define. They have always appreciated rock and pop too. And me too: I like rock and pop rock too. In my view they are doing something really good in pop-rock, and I still can recognize their vibes. But if you don't like pop rock, it's simply a question of tastes
This is not about pop or rock, it's about originality, looking for something that defines you, that makes you different, and they found it with teatro d'ira, or do you really think they could have won Eurovision with one of the songs from Rush? you kick a stone and you get ten records like rush by day. But you will never find another equal to Teatro d'Ira, they were special, now they are one of many, and if you look closely, their new audience is American, they have lost almost everything to the European
@@krisgonm8028 I am Italian, I've been following them since the very beginning. I think that what you say is a pure myth. They wrote songs in Italian for Teatro d'ira, because at the beginning their producers told them that without Italian songs they would have never conquered the Italian market... But Damiano have always prefered to write in English because this language suites better their rythms. Their story is much more complex than you describe it. Finally, I like very much their last album, I am pretty addicted to it. I find it alive and fun. That's all.
"Teaitro D'ira" didn't work in the US & UK charts. What's the use of making a flawless album when you don't get rewarded by the sales? Sales are important because they allow you to become artistically independent. The american industry always manages to manipulate the foreign artists in order to let them be compatible with local tastes. Maneskin could make two choices. Say "Fuck them all" and go back to europe loosing all the promotional support on the international markets (which means disappearing from the global markets very soon), or ride the horse and become globally powerful to offer in the future both mainstream and more personal music. We had a good example of italian artist who tried the american "card" in 2002. Laura Pausini with the album "from the inside" where she sounded more american than american female singers despite the fact that she is the most "italian" of all contemporary italian singers. The single "Surrender" charted both in the USA & CAnada but when she realised that the american producers wanted her to become a dance singer she said "Fuck you all" and left the game. But she could do it being powerful and popular all over Europe and latin america with sales reachim 80 million records around the world. Maneskin are not that strong.
Totally agree .... ride the horse. 😎 This is fun uncharted territory from an Italian rock band. Breaking America is hard, however from my experience the US audience always seems to be craving foreign artist and open to the influence. Think Beatles, Bowie, Queen, ABBA, Oasis, Elton John, Coldplay ... it's rare but I can see Måneskin lasting because of their diversity of styles. We love their vibe & hope they keep going strong. After one live performance here in Dallas ... We are Totally In On the Band Bigtime !
@@reactionextraction people may be open to the influence, but not the industry. The only italian act working on the american market is Andrea Bocelli, the ultimate cliché of the italian music culture. He occupied the place of Julio Iglesias 30 years after the american breakthrough of the spanish singer. In the last 30 years it is virtually impossible for non-anglophone singers to break into the american market unless they have a perfect accent and an american producer and staff. Check who's behind Daft Punk or BTS, the label "korean", "italian" or "french" is just a label that a certain american industry uses to appear culturally opened to the world. But the fact is that in the end you hardly find in their music something differente from the average american mainstream music. We have to look back in the 70es to find an italian producer that changed the sound of american pop music, Giorgio Moroder. His sound was unique and he made the difference with artists like Donna Summer or Blondie. Today these swedish producers all sound the same. This is the problem with the new Maneskin Album. Homogenisation.
At the beginning I was confused.. also for me most of the songs were more American vibes, but listen day by day I feeling Maneskin uniqueness and I love it! It’s wrong to recall Coraline, Torna a casa, Paura del buio. They’re different, older and with the desire to experiment “new” styles ( in this song for example at the end it’s like listen to Micheal Jackson). But, but.. the way they recall old stuff, became modern and beautiful. They’re what they’re and in my opinion, four genius guys. I’m Italian but in this album I prefer English songs instead of italian ones. Bla Bla Bla, my favourite.
You are right, Florence. I missed MJ, I'll listen again looking for it. However, I chuckled hearing everyone talk about Muse sounds, without realizing that instead, this time, they went straight to the origins and the references are to the Beatles, and I'm not talking about the quotes in the lyrics.
@@clelia7820 sono appena reduce da una reaction ultranegativa di un coglione e di tutti i commenti al seguito. Sono incazzata nera. Fino ad ora avevo sempre evitato i canali dei quali sentivo parlare anche te ma qui non ho potuto non reagire. Ma quanta gente schifosa e frustrata a questo mondo!! Ho letto anche il tuo commento ma io non ho saputo essere diplomatica ( a parte la superiorità di proprietà di linguaggio) come te. 😡😡😡😡😡
@@Florence-kn3dq Stai parlando del pallone gonfiato italo americano con due milioni e mezzo di follower? Non credo, perché io lì non sono stata per nulla diplomatica.
I like your reaction and also how you two exchanged your point of views. I agree with both: I really prefer their rock Italian songs and I'm sad only three are in our language. I know they need to be "more commercial" now, but really hope they aren't going to lose their unique sounds. Love from Rome
thank you guys for your reaction! as long as it's said with respect like you did here we can hea that .some people reactions were impossible to listen to for me 🤣 because they don't know how brilliant they are and say bullshit about them.We all know you love them really much so it's like a love story sometimes you may be disappointed . personnaly i love their music but i love them even more. Their personnalities are why i fell in love with them so whatever i'll be happy even if they sing country or ragga or .. i don't know 🤣 but i don't know how i would react if i was a rock purist .. so i feel you too ! thank you !
I couldn't agree more with you, Son 👏👏👏. Though your Dad has a point too.The album is good but underwhelming to those of us who appreciated Maneskin for their unique sound and soul. Probably Damiano got the upper hand in this. Do you know that at high school he was fired by Victoria & Thomas because he was too poppish? Eventually they called him back in because they couldn't get a fit replacement. I hope they'll dedicate more time to writing the next album and will record it in Italy, with their usual Italian studio team.
Don't really agree with Ty. Why do we need to compare to the old stuff? Why did they lose what was "them"? They are the band. Whatever they do is "them" should they be put in a box to only do songs they did before? Love your guys channel! Been a big fan, loved seeing the concert etc. I loved the album and I agree they're making whatever music they want to while trying to avoid pressure from the fans Huge fan guys, and keep being honest, even if I disagree I want authenticity. So glad you didn't just lie!
Hy guys. You started with the most poppish song of the album. I agree. The song is good but nothing special. I love RUSH!. It is well produced. I personally prefer the italian songs production and also their lyrics are on another level if you compare them with the English ones. That's why I understand Tye's point of view. But I have to admit that the Usa producers did a great job with the rock songs. Gasoline, Don't wanna sleep, Own my mind, Gossip are great. The arrangement of Kool Kids (produced by their italian manager) is stunning. Straight back to the seventies punk rock. In your first comment you said If not for you was the highlight song. For me it is good but far to represent their new sound. The song I instantly loved at first listen has been Il dono della vita. The most complex, gorgeous, emotional song I might wish .... I am totally in love with it❤ looking forward to watch the next review. It will be cool to see how goes on ✌😊
Tyler, did Teatro d'Ira enter the album charts in the US? No, that means an album like Teatro d'Ira will never become a success in the US. Not all the Americans are like you and your father. Additionally a song in Italian appeals to you, but it will never enter the charts (Zitti e Buoni did it, but because it was the winner of Eurovision) or be played in the radios. Do you think a song in a language that is not english can become mainstream? Mark Chapman and Il Dono della Vita are songs that were meant to be in either Teatro d'Ira Volume 1 or Volume 2, together with La Fine. So they are in the same mood as the other songs of Teatro d'Ira. Il Dono della Vita is a super ballad. Without this album they will stay a niche group for a small number of rock fanatics like you and your father. I think they need to widen their audience with an album like Rush and then they will educate them by doing a Teatro d'Ira Volume 2 (which, probably, is ready to be published).
Very well said! The album is charting everywhere so it obviously worked to put their name out there. I think we will be surprised on what they do next, they are not stupid. Also people forget how young they are still!!
@@moonshine9836 Well said, too. For your love was a wonderful song in english, but the one who charted in the USA was IWBYS. So we see that not the best songs who charts, but the most appealing or crazy. The songs who have success are those more fun. What it surprises me is that Tyler likes Pet Shop Boys (and I do too, they where my best preferred pop electronic duo, back then). The songs in Rush are much more rock&roll than those from PSB, which are electro pop/dance. In Rush there are killer guitar solos, stompy distorted bass, crazy drums. So, for a rock&roll guy even Rush should be a very good album. Then, if the wide general audience in the USA likes something reworked by someone who knows how to make a success, like Max Martin or Justin Tranter or Sly or Rami Jacoub, why not? Do you like the old Måneskin, there are 3 songs in Italian which are very nice. Mark Chapman has a fantastic speed and progression, Il Dono della Vita is a wonderful ballad with wonderful lyrics. I am confident Måneskin are hard headed enough to know what they are doing and follow their tastes. Queen also sold their souls before becoming Queen. As everybody else. If you want to stay in the 50th or 60th place in the chart, Teatro d'Ira was perfect. But I feel Sony and Måneskin want something more. If we check the past, those who were charting in the USA in the past singing in Italian were Domenico Modugno with Volare, Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli with opera songs. Charting with rock is more complicate for an Italian. We are known for bel canto and ballads, or opera. Umberto Tozzi did a stomp with the song in italian named "Gloria" back in the eighties, which charted everywhere in Europe (and south america). In the USA it charted only when Laura Brannigan did an english version.
@@francescor307 Allora, da quanto sembra Damiano abbia detto a un fan negli USA, credo, Teatro d'Ira Volume 2 è pronto o quasi pronto. È anche vero che le 3 canzoni in italiano di Rush dovevano entrare in Teatro d'Ira Volume 1, oppure Volume 2. Io credo che abbiano scritto canzoni per 2 album e poi sia stata una decisione della Sony di dividerlo in due per allungare il brodo. In ogni caso Damiano ha detto che hanno pronte 50 o 60 canzoni. Non credo le abbiano prodotte tutte recentemente con i produttori americani. Secondo me c'è roba anche vecchia. Credo non abbiano problemi a trovare roba per pubblicare altri 2 o 3 album subito. Penso però che la Sony abbia capito di avere tra le mani una band che potrebbe diventare mainstream in tutto il mondo. E l'ha capito anche Damiano, da quanto ha detto nelle interviste recenti. Quindi ci stanno provando e fanno bene. Hanno fatto successo cantanti svociati che non sanno cantare o suonare, perché non lo devono fare loro, con la voce che ha Damiano, la sua capacità di scrivere testi e la maestria nei loro strumenti degli altri 3? Se continuano a pubblicare album di rock in italiano, dubito possano diventarlo. Ecco il perché di produttori così importanti. Fabrizio Ferraguzzo è bravissimo, ma hai visto che differenza di produzione tra le canzoni firmate dagli altri e le sue o quelle degli album scorsi? I fans devono capire che non è possibile avere i Maneskin sempre uguali a prima. E che cantano sempre in Italiano. Perché se non vendono negli USA la Sony si stuferà di distribuirli. Dobbiamo evolvere con loro. E capire che se vendi sei supportato dalle case discografiche. Se vendi 5000 album solo a nostalgici del rock puro e duro, lo fai solo se sei una vecchia gloria.
@@Paolo3480 Lo capisco ma il suono "plasticoso" di Supermodel e alcune altre americanizzate tipo Baby said (e se vogliamo dirla tutta, anche testi insipidi come bla bla bla e Feel) a me non piaceva prima e non piace ascoltarlo dai Maneskin. Oddio, le posso tollerare se contornate da pezzi degni di nota alla Teatro d'ira, pezzi solidi alla Zitti e buoni e For your love, con assoli di Thomas degli di questo nome, e non come in Rush dove diciamo che si è un pochino risparmiato in fantasia
From this album I love "Own my Mind" and "Read your Diary". Once again I agree with you Son (what's your name?). None of this album ballads have the crunch of their "historic" power ballads. In one interview Damiano said that they have learned a lot about songwriting in L.A. Before their songs were the result of hours and hours of jam sessions....but since they were in LA they've learned to work with the dgital tools.😑 Oh really? 😱 That must have sped up the songwriting process, no doubt. But it explains why their new material is much blander and tamer.
I always really like your reactions and sharing your different opinions was really interesting to me. I agree with the left guy that this is a good album, but without great bangers inside. I anyway think they are not changing their nature, they just love to experiment everything (in the past they made a reggaeton called "are you ready" !!), they never stay in a fixed point and I was actually expecting something like this for their new odience. This is what they have been doing from the start, it not even easy to come out with a banger each time. I am also impressed on where they found the time to write and produce 17 songs album while performig gigs and awards around the world, collaboraction with that amazing Elvis movie, tv show and so on, this is astonishing to me. They will be back with their sound for sure later. Ciao a tutti.
The Doors never deviated from their swag, never. I think Maneskin didn't realise how incredible they were. So they listened to these pop rock songwriters, because they genuinely thought pop rock was better than the soulful incredible iconic music they first created. I saw them live in Verona. I'll never forget Thomas and Damiano sitting in the crowd doing an acoustic version of Vent'anni, the crowd singing with them. The double mind blowing intro to the first set Zitti e Buoni followed by In Nome del Padre. The pure magic and passion. If they continue this pop thing, they loose everything. Compare this manufactured pop to Torna Casa, a true masterpiece both song and video. Please Maneskin don't sell yourselves to the plastic people. Pause, take a break. Go lock yourselves in a remote studio in the Swiss Alps for 3 months, forget the tours. Make art. You have the gift.
In my opinion, the real thing is that Maneskin is funny and good singing in english but when they sing in Italian they become something more, they reach their best potential in everything, so I need to agree with the boy. Unfortunately the world is not ready to something that is not write in english or maybe in rare cases spanish. The mainstream wants silver even when the artist can offers gold, actually the public in general acts in this way.
I don't get why do you pick this song if you are fans of teatro dira? For what? There are italian songs which are the same. But nobody listen to them! Just complaining non stop about baby said which is on 9 place of the global chart already. This song is a hit by Max Martin. Everyone call him american producer, but he is from Sweden. He is european. There are uk punk songs. This album is sounds from whole Europe: sweden, denmark, italy, uk. But for everyone it's american sound.
I was so expenting your reaction and I have to say I agree with Ty totally,on the other hand I'm the old wise one so I'm a bit with Dad as well. Honestly Baby Said sounds to me like a Britney Spears song, nice and fun while you listen to it but totally forgettable and also a couple of ballads on the album are way too pop for me. My fav is still Gasoline but honestly I don't know what to choose among the rest. It's a good album, very "polished", it's obviously a high budget production and Damiano said when they offered you to work with a top producer you don't refuse but to me again Max Martin was not a good choice in terms of sound although it might be a good choice from a label pov or from mainstream placements since he seems to guarantee to struck gold on anything he does. Damiano said he prefers to write in English because he doesn't feel guilty of writing silly things or less meaningful things in a language thet is not his own and unfortunately it shows, he's so less emotionally involved and to the listener's ear it's a complete different experience. I get it, they're in their 20s and get the opportunity of a life, you jump on the train, they also want to have fun and not think too much if they're rock, if they're pop, etc. I hope next album maybe in a couple of years will bring back the Maneskin uniqueness we all loved so much. 😊
Thx. I agree with the young guy, think he's spot on. If you're offered the chance to work with the "Emperor" of pop, Max Martin, you say yes. But it get's poppish, unlike Teatro. The future will tell if they go back to the raw sound again. Peace.
Interesting to hear your discussion. I'm agreeing a bit with both of you. The album makes me feel conflicted. I think it is a good album as such, I like most of the songs well enough and a couple of them are great. It is doing pretty well in charts. However, it is not an album I wished to hear from them. I hoped they would stay more rock and would keep more balance between English and Italian. But that is not what they wanted to do, so what is there really to say... I simply hope that they have actually been somewhat free to do what they truly wanted, and that this isn't them only giving in to the demands of the US music market.
But I think if you compare everything to Caroline, nothing will be as good, bc that came from a deep raw feeling that Damiano wrote in his youth. I think even if he wrote in Italian, to get to that same state once again and make it feel like an all new song it'll be hard. We would risk ending up with a rip off of their own Teatro album. I think your dad makes sense because they did manage to come up with an interesting unique concept even in the "American style" album, meaning they did feel inspired by it otherwise I think it would've been some basic commercial song. I personally don't feel it as low, but an all new trip on the other side of the Pacific. There's a little taste for everyone 😋 but for sure it never gets boring regardless, which is rare to encounter in band. Such a capability to reinvent themselves over and over again. I always find that most artists have one or two hits than the rest is a filler. I'm so impressed at how Maneskin is doing so far. Don't worry they'll takes us for another ride somewhere else once again in the next album. Who knows maybe in the metal rock homeland, Denmark , visiting Victoria's 👪 family and howling at the moonlight 😆. That would be a great next hit 🐺.
On first listen I had the same feeling as the boy. Now I'm digesting it better but still "good" songs, very good quality but not great songs. A bit like those of the first album, but an evolution of Teatro d'ira was expected, or rather, a continuation was actually fine, because those were really excellent. Let's just hope they don't change direction forever but that it's just a parenthesis
I understand both point of view, but this story about fans feeling betrayed by the band reminds me of when Metallica released the black album, it was an incredible success and remains the best-selling metal album in history. The more hardcore fans never forgave them. Thirty years after the release of that album, there's not a person who doesn't know Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters. I don't think it's directly comparable, but maybe putting maneskin's work in context here is key: they recorded the album really in a rush, they recorded while they were on a world tour that lasted a whole year! I think the next album will be recorded more slowly and give us a more complete view. They are just kids, we'll see in the future 🤷 Sorry for the bad english 🤌🇮🇹
Teatro d'ira II is already made, so you shouldn't worry about them keeping this pop rock sound for too long. They already said this wasn't supposed to be a serious one, and was just to grab america, as he can write the stupidest things in english, whereas italian he has to really try and be critical. I love pop rock so I'm fine with the album, but I agree I prefer the more raw rock they had on teatro I. It'll get better. Call it the usual sophmore slump if you want, even though this is the 3rd...
There's not even one single European (incl.UK) rock band that went to the US and came back stronger. They all lost their original heart and soul, although in many cases continued to make good enough records.
Абсолютно точные рассуждения, на 100% соответствующие дисскусиям в чатах фан - клубов.( серьёзных, спокойных и уважительных к группе,естественно) Увы, это факт - звук альбома "проблематичный ", ведь звучание голоса Дамиано, самой группы не нуждалаютсяь в такой сильной обработке, спецэффектах. На концертах они вынуждены аккуратно менять звучание, приспосабливаться. К большому сожалению, приходится признать, что кто-то в команде группы - менеджмент, продюсеры, соавторы - упустили какой-то тонкий момент в понимании группы, её характера, что несколько странно и непонятно😒... Но , учитывая то , что, как говорилось в одном интервью, Дамиано было написано множество песен ( одна, прекрасная, эмоциональная - " без имени" ,прозвучала в Circo Massimo, и не вошла в альбом), а год назад" изчез" огромный восточноевропейский рынок, где так любили ( и любят) итальянский язык, очевидно, у группы возникла какая-то спешка в перемене стратегии, выборе песен, появилось явное направление только на американский музыкальный рынок... Жаль, невозможно со стороны понять, узнать точную позицию самих ребят - их интервью спокойны, интересны, но они продвигают этот уже готовый альбом , что понятно, конечно. Сейчас остаётся только наслаждаться живыми концертами, артистизмом, юмором Дамиано , и всеми отличными, сильными моментами альбома , который я слушала уже не один раз!!! Мне многие песни любопытны, по разному, только жаль, красивая Loneliest чем-то сложна для восприятия. Но, я не буду критиковать, и так слишком много критики в их адрес , как чёткой, конструктивной, так и грубой, бессмысленной( от итальянских завистников и хейтеров)! Как говорится, будущее покажет 😏. Благодарю за уважительное отношение к Måneskin , тактичное и внимательное обсуждение , МИР☮️‼️
The bare, raw sound of a live recording suited an album like "Teatro d'Ira" very well, but it would never fit "Rush", which is the album they chose to make. We'll see how they'll solve the problem in live shows, but I'm sure the result will be brilliant.
Great song no doubt, but it's too Americanized for commercial pop rock sounds. Their Italian stuff was more raw , had more emotion and was pure rock. Their Italian stuff is better IMHO . Stuff cool song !
i thought and wrote as soos as it came out. is it like maroon5 i am listening to or what? probably nobody from them or their producers will ever read this but i really hope that this POP wave will end with this album.
Ok they are more pop in this album, but they are definitely not Maroon 5! They still show their groove despite leaning a bit more into pop. Having said that, how brave is it to include bla bla and kool kids or even Gasoline in the album? Not other mainstream band would have done that!
@@moonshine9836 actually those are my favorites, blabla, koolkids, gasoline. Cause these are not pop and more true to what made them famous around the world. I would add supermodel, gossip and mammamia as well and the italian songs. But timezone, baby said, feel, if not for you, all sound like maroon5 . The others, own my mind, read diary, down wanna sleep, dunno, something in the midd.
and that's why I don't like maneskin anymore, and his biggest fandom right now is in the United States. They have created a record heard a thousand times before. This is pop rock and there are many bands doing the same thing. What they would do before was new, special, they had a soul. Now they are one more product of the American industry
@@ltdhinternational Gossip un po' sì. Poi diciamo che in questo album Thomas è molto meno "variegato" nei suoi assolo di chitarra, a parte The lonliest sono tutti un po' piatti con due accordi ripetuti due volte. Niente a che vedere con quelli di Coraline, Vent'anni e For your love
@@vpersiana It's easy to be the most streamed record when there's no competition, and across Europe they have left disappointment after disappointment. Fool yourself if you want and you'll be happier that way, but while teatro d'ira got fabulous reviews from the music world, for Rush the reviews are wild. Obviously they have loyal fans who will buy their music and fill their concerts (small ones on the other hand), but they have lost their admiration because there is nothing original about them anymore, especially Damiano
Listen to "Don't wanna sleep" if you are a "for your love" fans or "Il dono della vita" for old rock vibes. This 17 song album is written for very different kind of fans/situations: "Baby Said" for pop rock, "Timezone" is a power-ballad, "Bla Bla Bla" for Tiktokers, "If not For You" for romantic slow dance, "Gasoline" has a strong bild up for an important social message, "kool kid" is a UK punk punch... every song is well done and has something. They did a wonderful job considering the had no much time to make this LP!
Maneskin were born with the idea of being mainstream. It's what they always wanted. At the same time, they want to feel free to express themselves. Now, I also have been very young and maximalist, but the album isn't all pop rock. I was the first to get desperate listening to Supermodel and Mammamia, but we have to accept that Mammamia is part of what they love to do. They always sang preferably in English, it was the old manager who forced them to sing almost always in Italian. I also prefer them in Italian... but I also know what the real market is like: everyone likes songs in Italian, but few people buy them. And don't forget that there are four of them, with different tastes: this time, instead of amalgamating, they preferred to indulge each other. Each of them could make the songs they wanted or had written as they wanted. What's more, they too grow, mature, change. And let's not forget that their live songs have always been something else. D you really think that Gasoline is rock pop? Or that "Bla bla bla" and "Kool kids" are there to please Americans? And that all those references, that common thread of toxic love of different kinds, are to please an average audience?
Excellent, you said it all. Nothing to add! Grande Clelia🤗
yes you're right, lots of people complain and want italian songs and don't listen to the italian songs like la fine.. when i was listening the album the first night i was reading the comments under the english songs of people that were really pissed of but those people didn't even know that "la fine" was out.. .. and the italian songs on the album don't make the views the english ones makes so.. obviously people are not engaged and like you said they always prefered english songs even in the streets . I love the album, because it's their album and i just love them and of course the songs live are gonna be awesome and rock i have no doubt and even if it's not rock.. it will be maneskin so , i will be in no matter what .
Brava Clelia. Ho scritto anche io lo stesso. Poi sono sicuro che se facessero un clone di Teatro d'Ira qualcuno solleverebbe il sopracciglio per dire che hanno esaurito la vena creativa. Su quest'album ci sono alcune canzoni più commerciali, è vero. Ma se avessero diviso l'album in due, da una parte le canzoni prodotte dai vari produttori famosi e dall'altra quelle di Ferraguzzo come le 3 in Italiano, BlaBlaBla, Kool Kids e Gasoline, magari chiamato TdI Volume 2, quest'ultimo album sarebbe stato incensato come e più di Teatro d'Ira Volume 1. È che ci sono persone che non sono mai contente e se non gli fai l'album che vogliono loro si offendono. Fans così è meglio perderli che trovarli. Pur consapevole che Teatro d'Ira era un album fantastico, sono anche rassegnato al fatto che non ha fatto successo nel mercato anglosasssone. Il pubblico americano ha scovato Beggin' ma non ha scovato For Your Love. Colpa anche di TikTok che non sempre seleziona le canzoni migliori da far diventare virali. PS: dato che sono disoccupato, sono contento che abbiano fatto un album solo con 17 canzoni, così ho risparmiato i soldi comprandone uno e non due.
@@Paolo3480 Paolo, il riscontro ce l'abbiamo: Mark Chapman e La Fine sono state chiaramente scritte per l'eventuale "Teatro d'Ira Vol. 2" e non mi sembra che abbiano avuto particolare successo, neanche su RUclips. Il punto è che, secondo me, anche alcuni fan, come gli hater, cercano solo la conferma dei loro pregiudizi, di quello che di loro hanno proiettato sulla band. Non è solo una questione di gusti musicali. Vabbuo', nel frattempo mi sono sfogata tirando sberle a quello con 2 milioni e mezzo di follower. Mi sa che mi serve di nuovo un periodo di disintossicazione.
@@Florence-kn3dq ☺🤗
I think they gave us a buffet of styles - a perfect bridge for all the new fans to get into more rock
❤️😎🤘🏼 agreed
Maneskin are new generation guys of Italy, they are a fantastic, iconic , beatiful, emotional ...a great international rock/pop band! I love them
Obsessed with the whole album!
As i said i love the album, isn't as coherent as teatro d'ira was but is a good showcase to show what they can do, and to show their love for music as a whole.
For sure there are more commercial songs in there, but they always wanted to be mainstream and songs like vent'anni are considered commercial in Italy that was their previous market.
They want to be big and to have fun doing that and if in the process they keep giving us bangers like baby said and intimate songs like il dono della vita I'm not gonna complain.
They are in their early 20 in the end and this is part of their grow, there's plenty of time for a teatro d'ira vol 2.
Love you two btw, good povs everyone.
Totally agree! some previous Italian songs might sound totally new and innovative to an American audience, but not for us Italian. That's I believe they should listen to other Italian songs to have a comparison.
@@Claxen11 agree, i noticed it a lot being in the fandom, they go crazy for ballads like vent'anni (that i love) like they are alternative music when is one of the most popular kind of music here.
“teatro d’ira” was rock, but the album that came before, “il ballo della vita” was pop rock, similar to “rush”. they didn’t lose their identity, they’re just very versatile and like to experiment.
having said this, i too prefer the hard rock italian songs, so i was very bummed when i found out only 3 out of 17 songs are in italian :(
Yeah , Teatro d'ira was pure rock ,raw. It had more of their Italian songs.
Teatro d'ira is a freakin masterpiece IMHO , like it better than the other albums .
@@gregorygant4242 me too!
Hi! I love love this album!!! I absolutely appreciate your opinions and wish everyone loved it as much as I.
I also fell in love with them a couple years ago and have listened to every and I mean every song that I could dig up.
They make anything they do special!
To me anyways.
I think I just personally love them as humans and every interview or point of view that I have heard them talk about over the years is they make music for themselves. They love to experiment and create what they feel not what everyone wants to hear.
Damiano has said countless times he loves pop and brings the pop element but all four love different styles. They experimented with each other’s differences and they said English is easier and more fun or less pressure for them.
I think you should listen to some interviews from back in the day until now because they’ve been saying the same thing every time.
They do what they feel and what they want to experiment with. I expected to hear the passion and love they gave for music. Whether it’s my taste or not they give it their all and I feel it every time. They don’t like being put in a box of just Italian or just rock. They hate labels and think they should be able to make music without being told it’s right or wrong.
So whether you hate it or love it they ultimately stayed true to themselves and tried something different for them!
They’ve never made an album like this so it’s all new and exciting for them.
Any who that’s just what I get from watching their journey unfold and them always having to explain and defend why or what they did.
Thank you for all of your awesome reactions!!
Maneskins music always sparks a conversation!
Have a great day!
Well said. All of you, do you know why Victoria and Thomas kicked out Damiano a first time from the group? Because Damiano wanted to be more pop. He is a funk/pop/rap singer. They clearly said this album has been created adding all their influences. So there are more pop rock song, rock like Mark Chapman (preferred by Thomas), and punk like BlaBlaBla and Kool Kids preferred by Victoria. So we have to accept their different tastes and choose the song we like. Not pretending each time they do a monumental classic rock anthem or a clone of Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin. Måneskin are all 4 lf them. If Damiano is not satisfied because he cannot sing the style he likes, he will probably abandon Måneskin, to sing whatever he wants. And that would be terrible. So keep cool and stop asking for the same thing each time. They will probably change the style and genres many times more.
Thank you for your response to this reaction because you said exactly what I was thinking!! Love Måneskin & love everything they do❤❤.
Very well said!
They explained that this album is a chance to explore all their personal identities and tastes. Therefore I like the variety. I also find it overproduced, but I also think that this is evolution in action. This is not their last album, and they need to break moulds to move on, even if as great ones as Teatro. I really find this one fun. Really great discussion between you two. My favourite review this far.
Also, you probably have seen the Ren review hype. I would love to see you both engage with his work. Hi Ren is the thing that broke out, but you can do any of the ones in the overall comments. He is really unique.
The fans love it.
Absolutely, the more I listen to the album, the better it gets! 😎❤️ This is a big moment for them. Their live shows are second to none, hope they are ready for the ride because here comes the Hysteria, ha 🤘🏼
I think they are very smart and know what they’re doing. When they started out in Italy, with their first album, they seduced the audience with basically a pop sound. Then they come out couple years later with “Teatro d’ira” and many fans who were just in for the pop sound fell in love with rock. I know for a fact that the next album will have heavier songs. When music becomes a career, you have to be a businessman other than an artist, and that’s totally normal. So playing it safe in this album is, in my opinion, a hella smart move. You’ll be able to make a long career only if you play it smart from the start, and they’re totally doing it.
Yep they are really smart and grew up in the mainstream environment, they know where to push and where to compromise to be successful without losing their soul and carrying on their plan lol
My opinion only but agree with the older guy views..Maneskin know what they are doing,they are versatile ,talented and next time will change it up again..The young guy needs to chill out a bit and not be over critical.When you listen to them you know the sound is ,not artic monkeys etc..cause they have the unique,charismatic Damiano’s voice,,style,no one else like them
Wish people would stop talking about past bands or comparisons,they are the present with the flare of being Italian which sets them apart,I love this album and the previous,a 10 from me👏🏼👏🏼
I guess that the perfect words to describe this album are “rock party” where you can find a lot of rock “faces” from pop to punk. Is the way they are, even if someone wants them more rock, they also love pop music made with real instruments…
I loved this album! Idk, maybe it's because I know to expect ANYTHING from them so I never had a singular sound in my head for what I wanted or was expecting from this album, but I think most of the songs are so fun and honestly this album is full of some absolute bangers! I mean I can kinda see where some people are coming from when they say they're disappointed (I personally don't get it though), because those people had their own idea of what they wanted their sound to be. Like others have said, when u compare this to Teatro D'Ira only, it can be a bit like ?? but when u look at ALL their musical sounds over BOTH their previous albums, this album doesn't seem out of left field or a let down at all, at least to me. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in my opinion people are hating on this album more than it deserves. I think they have some really GREAT songs on it. Are there some songs which aren't my favorite? absolutely. But for the most part I think they made some dope music.
Great points of view, both of you! I think the media and the pressure they put on them throughout these months it's what generates the idea that "maneskin is the new rock band that will save rock music from anything more mainstream and commercial". But in reality this is far from maneskin themselves. They never once said they wanted to save rock (save what?! If rock music has a problem it's that is full of fanatics that pontificate over what they think is rock and what not bashing people, artists and their fans without a right analysis or consideration). I think we all should remember that we're talking about guys in their twenties that obtained success maybe too fast and are trying to cope with it at their best, growing , having fun, experimenting sounds and generes. This album was clearly aimed for a north american market (hence the help of those producers) and made obviously "in a rush" (if you compare the time they spend in producing Teatro d'ira). But, i think it's still a great album, full of growth and experiments and serves it's purpose. I think that their uniqueness comes also from their singing in italian, a language not many are used to listen to, and that requires different structures and sounds when creating music. English on the other hand is the mainstream language, it does not carry the same sense of "new and different" that italian has. Maybe it's just one crazy idea of mine but as an italian myself this is what I notice when listening to those two languages.
I appreciate your honesty in your reaction. We all are allowed to have our own opinions in music. And the discussion on music is also so important. :) I would recommend that you watch this producers reaction. ruclips.net/video/d8dOWUy-Hig/видео.html I personally don't feel they are "loosing their sound". There sound keeps evolving. I personally loved the Rush album. But it is completely different from what the have done before. :)
I think this album is a fabulous addition to their discography. 😎❤️ They sound amazing & the new songs will totally expand their audience. Do we see World domination in their future? Maybe So ....
Yes, but we can say that that producer has a purely American pop-rock "ear". In fact, the three Italian songs didn't enthuse him much, because they are the least "Americanized" ones
Nice discussion guys!
Don’t disagree with either of you.
If you listen to the records from before Teatro, this one is not surprising.
Also Damiano is a huge pop fan! Always has been.
They clearly want some commercial success in America.
I agree that they will probably keep doing a bit of both pop and original Rock.
They are good at pretty much any genre.
Queen is the the best comparison to this band other than the language issue. They also bounced between Rock and Pop, and in the end ruled the world.
Let's say that the comparison between you two is beautiful. but I think Rusch is a transition record. If we look carefully when in concerts Damiano brings the audience on stage, it is clear that the public does not move like ROKER but more like a disco, this means that these 4 guys are trying to bring ROCK back to life. they themselves never knew it they were all born 2000-2001 so Rock was already dead. I thank every day that fate has given us these 4 boys. I'm 70, I've been waiting my whole life for this to happen. I'm just saying let them grow. time will tell who they are. it's always great to see you together and comment. sorry my english is google translate.Have fun from switzerland
I understand the sense of disappointment - really. I went through my own period of mourning the loss of the “Italian” Må quite early on, when IWBYS and Mammamia were popular. But I’m long past that now, and just accept all the variety that comes from them with huge enjoyment. They have never hidden the fact that they want to pursue this wild ride as far as they can go, and that includes making a more commercial album to get them on the map in America. But even on this album, I differ from your opinion that they sound just the same as any other American pop artist. In any mixed playlist, this group sticks out like a sore thumb. They are instantly recognisable, partly because of Damiano’s vocals, which are unique, but also the very rock-driven instrumentals even on the poppiest of the songs. I find that the use of analogue instrumentals for a rocky dance track quite exciting, and I think these songs are going to absolutely slay live.
I like the album. I think it's generally good, with some excellent songs (such as Gasoline, Kool Kids, Mark Chapman).
I think one has to consider that they are not just the "Teatro D'ira's band"... They published one album and one EP, before Teatro D'ira, so I think it is not right judging Rush, only thinking to what they did on Teatro D'ira.
If you broaden your perspective, you'll see that they have always been pop-rock oriented. Plus, they always said they wanted to be a mainstream band. There is nothing wrong with that.
The fact is that they are eclectic and they do not like just one genre of music.
But they are intelligent and they know they will have to satisfy a varied audience.
You will always get both pop songs and rock songs by them. Do not worry.
By the way, I really like your reactions and your musical dialogues.
Their tour started on Friday night and the songs are playing well live.
I so agree w/u “son”!! Everything u said is exactly what I think. Teatro d’ira was def more “Italian “ influenced & the reason I Love them! (album took me back to my first trip to Italy in the 70’s reminded of the music at the time! Imagine that!! )
This Album is def a “minestrone”of their personalities it’s fun pop rock & yes mostly in English, but Maneskin is young & I’m sure they’ll find their way…like “Dad” said they are growing as they go. 😊🎸
Expectations can be a killer!! In a way you are both right and I appreciate your comments because they come from the love for the band! Teatro d'Ira is not necessarily the "real" Maneskin though, they still need to find their way and they are under too much pressure to do so at this right moment in time, but I am still very much in love with their sound and of course Damiano's voice. I also like the more rock side of them, but I understand they HAD to come out with this for many different reasons. Also it sounds like you heard it before but have we? Not quite...anyway Gasoline is a masterpiece for me. Ciao!
I think that "Teatro d'ira" was more coherent in itself, but I don't agree when you say that they are loosing their soul. If you listen to the album before "Teatro d'ira", called "Il ballo della vita" you can realize that they mainly like experimeting very different styles. And I appreciate this. I think Rush is a further experiment, done while they were giving gigs all aroud the world, so it has the meaning to show how they could still create new things... Thank you for your reaction
agree, fabulous comments. I like hearing them in this new "pop -ish" context 😎
you are confusing terms. What they did in il ballo de la vitta was to get into the music. They were very young and yet they made real jewels like Torna a casa and Le parole lontana. Over the years they knew what they wanted and went for it, creating a marvel like the Teatro d'Ira. Any subsequent work was supposed to improve on the previous one, and yet it was a beastly setback. Now they just play pop rock and are just another band that unfortunately lost its identity. What Damiano said in Eurovision "rock never dies" does not agree at all with what they have done in rush, an album that in two months will be totally forgettable while teatro d'ira will endure over time
@@krisgonm8028 your view seem to me sumilar to those who demand rock to be just "pure rock", which is even difficult to define. They have always appreciated rock and pop too. And me too: I like rock and pop rock too. In my view they are doing something really good in pop-rock, and I still can recognize their vibes. But if you don't like pop rock, it's simply a question of tastes
This is not about pop or rock, it's about originality, looking for something that defines you, that makes you different, and they found it with teatro d'ira, or do you really think they could have won Eurovision with one of the songs from Rush? you kick a stone and you get ten records like rush by day. But you will never find another equal to Teatro d'Ira, they were special, now they are one of many, and if you look closely, their new audience is American, they have lost almost everything to the European
@@krisgonm8028 I am Italian, I've been following them since the very beginning. I think that what you say is a pure myth. They wrote songs in Italian for Teatro d'ira, because at the beginning their producers told them that without Italian songs they would have never conquered the Italian market... But Damiano have always prefered to write in English because this language suites better their rythms. Their story is much more complex than you describe it. Finally, I like very much their last album, I am pretty addicted to it. I find it alive and fun. That's all.
"Teaitro D'ira" didn't work in the US & UK charts. What's the use of making a flawless album when you don't get rewarded by the sales? Sales are important because they allow you to become artistically independent. The american industry always manages to manipulate the foreign artists in order to let them be compatible with local tastes. Maneskin could make two choices. Say "Fuck them all" and go back to europe loosing all the promotional support on the international markets (which means disappearing from the global markets very soon), or ride the horse and become globally powerful to offer in the future both mainstream and more personal music. We had a good example of italian artist who tried the american "card" in 2002. Laura Pausini with the album "from the inside" where she sounded more american than american female singers despite the fact that she is the most "italian" of all contemporary italian singers. The single "Surrender" charted both in the USA & CAnada but when she realised that the american producers wanted her to become a dance singer she said "Fuck you all" and left the game. But she could do it being powerful and popular all over Europe and latin america with sales reachim 80 million records around the world. Maneskin are not that strong.
Totally agree .... ride the horse. 😎 This is fun uncharted territory from an Italian rock band. Breaking America is hard, however from my experience the US audience always seems to be craving foreign artist and open to the influence. Think Beatles, Bowie, Queen, ABBA, Oasis, Elton John, Coldplay ... it's rare but I can see Måneskin lasting because of their diversity of styles. We love their vibe & hope they keep going strong. After one live performance here in Dallas ... We are Totally In On the Band Bigtime !
@@reactionextraction people may be open to the influence, but not the industry. The only italian act working on the american market is Andrea Bocelli, the ultimate cliché of the italian music culture. He occupied the place of Julio Iglesias 30 years after the american breakthrough of the spanish singer. In the last 30 years it is virtually impossible for non-anglophone singers to break into the american market unless they have a perfect accent and an american producer and staff. Check who's behind Daft Punk or BTS, the label "korean", "italian" or "french" is just a label that a certain american industry uses to appear culturally opened to the world. But the fact is that in the end you hardly find in their music something differente from the average american mainstream music. We have to look back in the 70es to find an italian producer that changed the sound of american pop music, Giorgio Moroder. His sound was unique and he made the difference with artists like Donna Summer or Blondie. Today these swedish producers all sound the same. This is the problem with the new Maneskin Album. Homogenisation.
At the beginning I was confused.. also for me most of the songs were more American vibes, but listen day by day I feeling Maneskin uniqueness and I love it! It’s wrong to recall Coraline, Torna a casa, Paura del buio. They’re different, older and with the desire to experiment “new” styles ( in this song for example at the end it’s like listen to Micheal Jackson). But, but.. the way they recall old stuff, became modern and beautiful. They’re what they’re and in my opinion, four genius guys. I’m Italian but in this album I prefer English songs instead of italian ones. Bla Bla Bla, my favourite.
You are right, Florence. I missed MJ, I'll listen again looking for it. However, I chuckled hearing everyone talk about Muse sounds, without realizing that instead, this time, they went straight to the origins and the references are to the Beatles, and I'm not talking about the quotes in the lyrics.
@@clelia7820 sono appena reduce da una reaction ultranegativa di un coglione e di tutti i commenti al seguito. Sono incazzata nera. Fino ad ora avevo sempre evitato i canali dei quali sentivo parlare anche te ma qui non ho potuto non reagire. Ma quanta gente schifosa e frustrata a questo mondo!! Ho letto anche il tuo commento ma io non ho saputo essere diplomatica ( a parte la superiorità di proprietà di linguaggio) come te. 😡😡😡😡😡
@@Florence-kn3dq Stai parlando del pallone gonfiato italo americano con due milioni e mezzo di follower? Non credo, perché io lì non sono stata per nulla diplomatica.
@@clelia7820 si, di quel cafone. Io sono passata agli insulti😅🤭
@@Florence-kn3dq Vado a cercarti, ma quella pagina mi dà l'orticaria, non so se resisto.
Great opinion! Thankyou guys!
I like your reaction and also how you two exchanged your point of views. I agree with both: I really prefer their rock Italian songs and I'm sad only three are in our language. I know they need to be "more commercial" now, but really hope they aren't going to lose their unique sounds. Love from Rome
Love from Dallas 😎
thank you guys for your reaction! as long as it's said with respect like you did here we can hea that .some people reactions were impossible to listen to for me 🤣 because they don't know how brilliant they are and say bullshit about them.We all know you love them really much so it's like a love story sometimes you may be disappointed . personnaly i love their music but i love them even more. Their personnalities are why i fell in love with them so whatever i'll be happy even if they sing country or ragga or .. i don't know 🤣 but i don't know how i would react if i was a rock purist .. so i feel you too ! thank you !
I couldn't agree more with you, Son 👏👏👏. Though your Dad has a point too.The album is good but underwhelming to those of us who appreciated Maneskin for their unique sound and soul. Probably Damiano got the upper hand in this. Do you know that at high school he was fired by Victoria & Thomas because he was too poppish? Eventually they called him back in because they couldn't get a fit replacement. I hope they'll dedicate more time to writing the next album and will record it in Italy, with their usual Italian studio team.
Don't really agree with Ty. Why do we need to compare to the old stuff? Why did they lose what was "them"?
They are the band. Whatever they do is "them" should they be put in a box to only do songs they did before?
Love your guys channel! Been a big fan, loved seeing the concert etc.
I loved the album and I agree they're making whatever music they want to while trying to avoid pressure from the fans
Huge fan guys, and keep being honest, even if I disagree I want authenticity. So glad you didn't just lie!
Amazing Maneskin 🔥 ❣️
Hy guys. You started with the most poppish song of the album. I agree. The song is good but nothing special. I love RUSH!. It is well produced. I personally prefer the italian songs production and also their lyrics are on another level if you compare them with the English ones. That's why I understand Tye's point of view. But I have to admit that the Usa producers did a great job with the rock songs. Gasoline, Don't wanna sleep, Own my mind, Gossip are great. The arrangement of Kool Kids (produced by their italian manager) is stunning. Straight back to the seventies punk rock. In your first comment you said If not for you was the highlight song. For me it is good but far to represent their new sound. The song I instantly loved at first listen has been Il dono della vita. The most complex, gorgeous, emotional song I might wish .... I am totally in love with it❤ looking forward to watch the next review. It will be cool to see how goes on ✌😊
Tyler, did Teatro d'Ira enter the album charts in the US? No, that means an album like Teatro d'Ira will never become a success in the US. Not all the Americans are like you and your father. Additionally a song in Italian appeals to you, but it will never enter the charts (Zitti e Buoni did it, but because it was the winner of Eurovision) or be played in the radios. Do you think a song in a language that is not english can become mainstream? Mark Chapman and Il Dono della Vita are songs that were meant to be in either Teatro d'Ira Volume 1 or Volume 2, together with La Fine. So they are in the same mood as the other songs of Teatro d'Ira. Il Dono della Vita is a super ballad. Without this album they will stay a niche group for a small number of rock fanatics like you and your father. I think they need to widen their audience with an album like Rush and then they will educate them by doing a Teatro d'Ira Volume 2 (which, probably, is ready to be published).
Very well said! The album is charting everywhere so it obviously worked to put their name out there. I think we will be surprised on what they do next, they are not stupid. Also people forget how young they are still!!
Dici che è già pronto il volume 2?
@@moonshine9836 Well said, too. For your love was a wonderful song in english, but the one who charted in the USA was IWBYS. So we see that not the best songs who charts, but the most appealing or crazy. The songs who have success are those more fun. What it surprises me is that Tyler likes Pet Shop Boys (and I do too, they where my best preferred pop electronic duo, back then). The songs in Rush are much more rock&roll than those from PSB, which are electro pop/dance. In Rush there are killer guitar solos, stompy distorted bass, crazy drums. So, for a rock&roll guy even Rush should be a very good album. Then, if the wide general audience in the USA likes something reworked by someone who knows how to make a success, like Max Martin or Justin Tranter or Sly or Rami Jacoub, why not? Do you like the old Måneskin, there are 3 songs in Italian which are very nice. Mark Chapman has a fantastic speed and progression, Il Dono della Vita is a wonderful ballad with wonderful lyrics. I am confident Måneskin are hard headed enough to know what they are doing and follow their tastes. Queen also sold their souls before becoming Queen. As everybody else. If you want to stay in the 50th or 60th place in the chart, Teatro d'Ira was perfect. But I feel Sony and Måneskin want something more. If we check the past, those who were charting in the USA in the past singing in Italian were Domenico Modugno with Volare, Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli with opera songs. Charting with rock is more complicate for an Italian. We are known for bel canto and ballads, or opera. Umberto Tozzi did a stomp with the song in italian named "Gloria" back in the eighties, which charted everywhere in Europe (and south america). In the USA it charted only when Laura Brannigan did an english version.
@@francescor307 Allora, da quanto sembra Damiano abbia detto a un fan negli USA, credo, Teatro d'Ira Volume 2 è pronto o quasi pronto. È anche vero che le 3 canzoni in italiano di Rush dovevano entrare in Teatro d'Ira Volume 1, oppure Volume 2. Io credo che abbiano scritto canzoni per 2 album e poi sia stata una decisione della Sony di dividerlo in due per allungare il brodo. In ogni caso Damiano ha detto che hanno pronte 50 o 60 canzoni. Non credo le abbiano prodotte tutte recentemente con i produttori americani. Secondo me c'è roba anche vecchia. Credo non abbiano problemi a trovare roba per pubblicare altri 2 o 3 album subito. Penso però che la Sony abbia capito di avere tra le mani una band che potrebbe diventare mainstream in tutto il mondo. E l'ha capito anche Damiano, da quanto ha detto nelle interviste recenti. Quindi ci stanno provando e fanno bene. Hanno fatto successo cantanti svociati che non sanno cantare o suonare, perché non lo devono fare loro, con la voce che ha Damiano, la sua capacità di scrivere testi e la maestria nei loro strumenti degli altri 3? Se continuano a pubblicare album di rock in italiano, dubito possano diventarlo. Ecco il perché di produttori così importanti. Fabrizio Ferraguzzo è bravissimo, ma hai visto che differenza di produzione tra le canzoni firmate dagli altri e le sue o quelle degli album scorsi? I fans devono capire che non è possibile avere i Maneskin sempre uguali a prima. E che cantano sempre in Italiano. Perché se non vendono negli USA la Sony si stuferà di distribuirli. Dobbiamo evolvere con loro. E capire che se vendi sei supportato dalle case discografiche. Se vendi 5000 album solo a nostalgici del rock puro e duro, lo fai solo se sei una vecchia gloria.
@@Paolo3480 Lo capisco ma il suono "plasticoso" di Supermodel e alcune altre americanizzate tipo Baby said (e se vogliamo dirla tutta, anche testi insipidi come bla bla bla e Feel) a me non piaceva prima e non piace ascoltarlo dai Maneskin. Oddio, le posso tollerare se contornate da pezzi degni di nota alla Teatro d'ira, pezzi solidi alla Zitti e buoni e For your love, con assoli di Thomas degli di questo nome, e non come in Rush dove diciamo che si è un pochino risparmiato in fantasia
From this album I love "Own my Mind" and "Read your Diary". Once again I agree with you Son (what's your name?). None of this album ballads have the crunch of their "historic" power ballads. In one interview Damiano said that they have learned a lot about songwriting in L.A. Before their songs were the result of hours and hours of jam sessions....but since they were in LA they've learned to work with the dgital tools.😑 Oh really? 😱 That must have sped up the songwriting process, no doubt. But it explains why their new material is much blander and tamer.
I always really like your reactions and sharing your different opinions was really interesting to me. I agree with the left guy that this is a good album, but without great bangers inside. I anyway think they are not changing their nature, they just love to experiment everything (in the past they made a reggaeton called "are you ready" !!), they never stay in a fixed point and I was actually expecting something like this for their new odience. This is what they have been doing from the start, it not even easy to come out with a banger each time. I am also impressed on where they found the time to write and produce 17 songs album while performig gigs and awards around the world, collaboraction with that amazing Elvis movie, tv show and so on, this is astonishing to me. They will be back with their sound for sure later. Ciao a tutti.
The Doors never deviated from their swag, never. I think Maneskin didn't realise how incredible they were. So they listened to these pop rock songwriters, because they genuinely thought pop rock was better than the soulful incredible iconic music they first created. I saw them live in Verona. I'll never forget Thomas and Damiano sitting in the crowd doing an acoustic version of Vent'anni, the crowd singing with them. The double mind blowing intro to the first set Zitti e Buoni followed by In Nome del Padre. The pure magic and passion. If they continue this pop thing, they loose everything. Compare this manufactured pop to Torna Casa, a true masterpiece both song and video. Please Maneskin don't sell yourselves to the plastic people. Pause, take a break. Go lock yourselves in a remote studio in the Swiss Alps for 3 months, forget the tours. Make art. You have the gift.
In my opinion, the real thing is that Maneskin is funny and good singing in english but when they sing in Italian they become something more, they reach their best potential in everything, so I need to agree with the boy. Unfortunately the world is not ready to something that is not write in english or maybe in rare cases spanish. The mainstream wants silver even when the artist can offers gold, actually the public in general acts in this way.
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I ❤️ this album
I don't get why do you pick this song if you are fans of teatro dira? For what? There are italian songs which are the same. But nobody listen to them! Just complaining non stop about baby said which is on 9 place of the global chart already. This song is a hit by Max Martin. Everyone call him american producer, but he is from Sweden. He is european. There are uk punk songs. This album is sounds from whole Europe: sweden, denmark, italy, uk. But for everyone it's american sound.
I was so expenting your reaction and I have to say I agree with Ty totally,on the other hand I'm the old wise one so I'm a bit with Dad as well. Honestly Baby Said sounds to me like a Britney Spears song, nice and fun while you listen to it but totally forgettable and also a couple of ballads on the album are way too pop for me. My fav is still Gasoline but honestly I don't know what to choose among the rest. It's a good album, very "polished", it's obviously a high budget production and Damiano said when they offered you to work with a top producer you don't refuse but to me again Max Martin was not a good choice in terms of sound although it might be a good choice from a label pov or from mainstream placements since he seems to guarantee to struck gold on anything he does. Damiano said he prefers to write in English because he doesn't feel guilty of writing silly things or less meaningful things in a language thet is not his own and unfortunately it shows, he's so less emotionally involved and to the listener's ear it's a complete different experience. I get it, they're in their 20s and get the opportunity of a life, you jump on the train, they also want to have fun and not think too much if they're rock, if they're pop, etc. I hope next album maybe in a couple of years will bring back the Maneskin uniqueness we all loved so much. 😊
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Thx. I agree with the young guy, think he's spot on.
If you're offered the chance to work with the "Emperor" of pop,
Max Martin, you say yes. But it get's poppish, unlike Teatro.
The future will tell if they go back to the raw sound again. Peace.
Interesting to hear your discussion. I'm agreeing a bit with both of you.
The album makes me feel conflicted. I think it is a good album as such, I like most of the songs well enough and a couple of them are great. It is doing pretty well in charts.
However, it is not an album I wished to hear from them. I hoped they would stay more rock and would keep more balance between English and Italian. But that is not what they wanted to do, so what is there really to say... I simply hope that they have actually been somewhat free to do what they truly wanted, and that this isn't them only giving in to the demands of the US music market.
But I think if you compare everything to Caroline, nothing will be as good, bc that came from a deep raw feeling that Damiano wrote in his youth. I think even if he wrote in Italian, to get to that same state once again and make it feel like an all new song it'll be hard. We would risk ending up with a rip off of their own Teatro album. I think your dad makes sense because they did manage to come up with an interesting unique concept even in the "American style" album, meaning they did feel inspired by it otherwise I think it would've been some basic commercial song. I personally don't feel it as low, but an all new trip on the other side of the Pacific. There's a little taste for everyone 😋 but for sure it never gets boring regardless, which is rare to encounter in band. Such a capability to reinvent themselves over and over again. I always find that most artists have one or two hits than the rest is a filler. I'm so impressed at how Maneskin is doing so far. Don't worry they'll takes us for another ride somewhere else once again in the next album. Who knows maybe in the metal rock homeland, Denmark , visiting Victoria's 👪 family and howling at the moonlight 😆. That would be a great next hit 🐺.
On first listen I had the same feeling as the boy. Now I'm digesting it better but still "good" songs, very good quality but not great songs. A bit like those of the first album, but an evolution of Teatro d'ira was expected, or rather, a continuation was actually fine, because those were really excellent. Let's just hope they don't change direction forever but that it's just a parenthesis
Bros maybe you should listen to the hit Mark Chapman that is an Italian song of theirs in Rush, I love it and it is a solid Italian rock song
All this songs will be changed in stage
I understand both point of view, but this story about fans feeling betrayed by the band reminds me of when Metallica released the black album, it was an incredible success and remains the best-selling metal album in history. The more hardcore fans never forgave them. Thirty years after the release of that album, there's not a person who doesn't know Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters. I don't think it's directly comparable, but maybe putting maneskin's work in context here is key: they recorded the album really in a rush, they recorded while they were on a world tour that lasted a whole year! I think the next album will be recorded more slowly and give us a more complete view. They are just kids, we'll see in the future 🤷 Sorry for the bad english 🤌🇮🇹
Teatro d'ira II is already made, so you shouldn't worry about them keeping this pop rock sound for too long. They already said this wasn't supposed to be a serious one, and was just to grab america, as he can write the stupidest things in english, whereas italian he has to really try and be critical. I love pop rock so I'm fine with the album, but I agree I prefer the more raw rock they had on teatro I. It'll get better. Call it the usual sophmore slump if you want, even though this is the 3rd...
Although I'm old, older than you both, I'm more with the young man here. Will be interesting to see were they go from this.
There's not even one single European (incl.UK) rock band that went to the US and came back stronger. They all lost their original heart and soul, although in many cases continued to make good enough records.
"Baby said" Is Just my least favorite. La fine and Own my mind are much Better, for me.
Абсолютно точные рассуждения, на 100% соответствующие дисскусиям в чатах фан - клубов.( серьёзных, спокойных и уважительных к группе,естественно)
Увы, это факт - звук альбома "проблематичный ", ведь звучание голоса Дамиано, самой группы не нуждалаютсяь в такой сильной обработке, спецэффектах.
На концертах они вынуждены аккуратно менять звучание, приспосабливаться. К большому сожалению, приходится признать, что кто-то в команде группы - менеджмент, продюсеры, соавторы - упустили какой-то тонкий момент в понимании группы, её характера, что несколько странно и непонятно😒...
Но , учитывая то , что, как говорилось в одном интервью, Дамиано было написано множество песен ( одна, прекрасная, эмоциональная -
" без имени" ,прозвучала в Circo Massimo, и не вошла в альбом), а год назад" изчез" огромный восточноевропейский рынок, где так любили ( и любят) итальянский язык, очевидно, у группы возникла какая-то спешка в перемене стратегии, выборе песен, появилось явное направление только на американский музыкальный рынок...
Жаль, невозможно со стороны понять, узнать точную позицию самих ребят - их интервью спокойны, интересны, но они продвигают этот уже готовый альбом , что понятно, конечно.
Сейчас остаётся только наслаждаться живыми концертами, артистизмом, юмором Дамиано , и всеми отличными, сильными моментами альбома , который я слушала уже не один раз!!!
Мне многие песни любопытны, по разному, только жаль, красивая Loneliest чем-то сложна для восприятия.
Но, я не буду критиковать, и так слишком много критики в их адрес , как чёткой, конструктивной, так и грубой, бессмысленной( от итальянских завистников и хейтеров)!
Как говорится, будущее покажет 😏.
Благодарю за уважительное отношение к Måneskin , тактичное и внимательное обсуждение ,
МИР☮️‼️
The bare, raw sound of a live recording suited an album like "Teatro d'Ira" very well, but it would never fit "Rush", which is the album they chose to make. We'll see how they'll solve the problem in live shows, but I'm sure the result will be brilliant.
Great song no doubt, but it's too Americanized for commercial pop rock sounds.
Their Italian stuff was more raw , had more emotion and was pure rock.
Their Italian stuff is better IMHO .
Stuff cool song !
i thought and wrote as soos as it came out. is it like maroon5 i am listening to or what? probably nobody from them or their producers will ever read this but i really hope that this POP wave will end with this album.
Ok they are more pop in this album, but they are definitely not Maroon 5! They still show their groove despite leaning a bit more into pop. Having said that, how brave is it to include bla bla and kool kids or even Gasoline in the album? Not other mainstream band would have done that!
@@moonshine9836 actually those are my favorites, blabla, koolkids, gasoline. Cause these are not pop and more true to what made them famous around the world. I would add supermodel, gossip and mammamia as well and the italian songs.
But timezone, baby said, feel, if not for you, all sound like maroon5 .
The others, own my mind, read diary, down wanna sleep, dunno, something in the midd.
They rather sound like they are heavily influenced by British bands like Arctic Monkeys and Franz Ferdinand.
and that's why I don't like maneskin anymore, and his biggest fandom right now is in the United States. They have created a record heard a thousand times before. This is pop rock and there are many bands doing the same thing. What they would do before was new, special, they had a soul. Now they are one more product of the American industry
Gasoline, Kool kid, Il dono della vita, Mark Chapman, Own my mind, Bla Bla Bla, Gossip are pop song? Are you sure?
The biggest fandom is still in Europe where their album was the most streamed and sold for 6 days now.
@@ltdhinternational Gossip un po' sì. Poi diciamo che in questo album Thomas è molto meno "variegato" nei suoi assolo di chitarra, a parte The lonliest sono tutti un po' piatti con due accordi ripetuti due volte. Niente a che vedere con quelli di Coraline, Vent'anni e For your love
@@ltdhinternational I'm really sure!!! And their old fans, who made them to win Eurovision, too!!
@@vpersiana It's easy to be the most streamed record when there's no competition, and across Europe they have left disappointment after disappointment. Fool yourself if you want and you'll be happier that way, but while teatro d'ira got fabulous reviews from the music world, for Rush the reviews are wild. Obviously they have loyal fans who will buy their music and fill their concerts (small ones on the other hand), but they have lost their admiration because there is nothing original about them anymore, especially Damiano
Hi,try react kool Kids,and Mark Chapman,on John Lennon. Really Amazing 😗
This one and timezone are the worst of the tracklist