weird, i thought adults were expected to debate by telling the truth. vance literally whined that he was called out on his lies and then continued to lie until his mic had to be shut off.
@@dietotakuAre you talking about how many illegal immigrants that came into the country? He literally explained why he was right. Why not talk about Walz' Tiennamen square experience?
@@dietotakuAt least JD was right about what he said. Walz waltz'd around every serious question. JD was like a Trump that stayed on point. Walz was like a smarter Kamala. As for Walz talking about abortion, it has already been decided that each state will vote for themselves on how they want to go about it.
I am an American citizen. I petitioned for my daughter's permanent residence in 2020. There has not been progress. She works for a Swedish company in Atlanta and is paying tax over 30%. The same legal process should be applied to everyone.
It was a well spoken debate by both Vance and Walz., much better than the presidential debate....MUCH better.....let's just leave there...now, to ask who won is utterly pointless. Democrats will Walz and Republicans will say Vance....🤷♂️. Just vote for whoever you want and keep it moving. No president moving forward will ever be able to fix our country anyway. It's too broken and certain powers and people want to keep it broken...
I can't argue that, however, he did inherit a decent to solid economy from his predecessor and ran with it until Covid was intentionally released. Now, should he get elected again, i would like to see him rebuild the current state of our economy from ground zero. I would highly doubt that. Its going to be hard for either candidate to do that., with the middle east and Russia/Ukraine situation. But you are right, inflation, gas, all that was good under him...
Covid was intentionally released? Show us proof. Either way, after this, and supply shortages WORKDWIDE, inflation became WORLDWIDE. Whether Trump, Biden or Lincoln was in office would not have mattered.
@@MatthewCrucianiSame here. JD won the debate and demonstrated why he won against the moderators and Tim in an eloquent manner. After this, I would definitely rather have JD than Trump.
Noticed, the way he explained legal process literally proved those hatians aren't illegal..... they just didn't go through the avenue he would've liked to aquire their legal status lol
Of course the politicians are not stupid, they would cover their backs riding on some policies that could work their way. But the point is the context that Vance was trying to explain : Kamala has been LETTING immigrants in OPENLY, where they are given "Legal" status much quicker than normal legitimate immigrants. You probably still won't understand this but in my country, this happened and it was a serious issue. Crime rate definitely increase, and government spending too. And why does the politicians do this? Because they want to get more voters for themselves by holding these "Legal" immigrant at ransom. It is already a known fact that they were told to vote certain party in order to get the "green card"
@@El_Aristocratthat’s not true. If they would have went three legal process, they would be able to have proof of their perm. Residency and it would have taken them much longer to get here. My husband came from Ukraine legally, it took him 6yrs to come here and he was seeking asylum!!! Know your facts before you just believe these fake news stories
if you’re reading this comment, never argue about politics unless you are willing to discuss politics like THIS. anyone ought to trust these two more than our Presidential candidates.
Walz at the end mentioned that was due to a law from the 1990s, not as Vance accused it to be due to Harris. Sofar i have not seen a rebuttal. edit:spelling
@@kinngrimm And did you purposely missed out the part, where Vance said that it has not actually been the law since the 1990s? Or you just cherry picking stuff to fit your agenda?
I think both should just team up as President and Vice President Candidates. They have different views on many things but have respect for one another and are probably willing to listen to each other's advice to get things done better. 😊
Because he was lying. The "CB1" he's trying to explain.....was created in 2020....under Trump and that's when most of the Haitians were allowed in. The city was actually actively looking for workers. So blame the Republican governor and mayor if you don't like immigrants. The city was slowly dying, but now the city is actually growing...and I don't mean by population. The economy has doubled since their arrival. And yes...problems come along with that in city services.....but making up scare tactics that lead to bomb threats doesn't help the city resources out at all. The 15,000 or so Haitians are here LEGALLY under the law. They're not eating dog, cat, geese. There's several made up stories about how that started. One, a neighbor in Springfield couldn't find her dog...so she called the police and blamed her Haitian neighbors for stealing it and eating it....and she posted in online. A day or two later....she found the dog in her basement. When that story got out there..other internet trolls went to work. There was a TikTok video of a black guy carrying geese and implied it was a Haitian killing geese and taking them home in Springfield. First, he wasn't Haitian, it didn't happen in Springfield, and a car hit the geese on the side of the road and the guy was picking them up...TMZ of all places figured this out. And of course...the Presidential and V.P. nominees get their information off the internet. Even though J.D. Vance was giving the facts, that the stories weren't true from the city mayor.
@@kristee2947 Weird, Polymarket had Walz at a 75% chance to win the debate, post debate it's down to 30%. Even the flash polls by left leaning CBS said JD won the debate 🤣
If Tim Walz sold you his used truck, he'd spend thirty minutes telling you everything that could possibly be wrong with it and then insist on replacing the brake pads before he'd sell it to you, just to be safe. JD Vance would fast talk you into a patched together piece of crap and laugh at you when it dumped the oil out halfway to your house. By the way, Walz got a bigger bump than Vance did. "In a Politico snap poll of the debate, while voters were split 50-50 on who won, Walz was seen to have won with independents by 58-42. He was also preferred as vice president by 44 percent of independents, with 36 percent choosing Vance." That's huge, and those are the voters that are going to matter in November.
If citizens of Finland enjoy better mental health, do you ever wonder why? Perhaps it is because their government makes accesses to education and healthcare easier and more affordable for them as well as other programs that assist the population.
It used to be good here in Finland but nowadays it's not so good any more. As a scandinavian I find it weird American thinks it's communism to have a healthcare for all and that they are actually against it.
@@tromedl Jeg bor i Skandinavia og har også bodd i USA i 7 år. Det at amerikanerne mener at gratis helsetjenester er kommunisme er rett og slett en stråmann. Faktumet er at de nordiske landene er høytillitssamfunn som har alltid hatt lave sosiale ulikheter, høy kapital, og lite konflikt mellom ulike interesser selv før gjennomføringen av velferdsstaten. Derfor fungerer velferdsstaten i norden. Over tiden må nordiske land også justere politikken sin og privatisere mer fordi de må ta i hensyn populasjonsveksten og andre endringer i omstendighetene. Det som fungerer i Norge som er en oljerik land med samme antall innbyggere som Massachussetts kommer ikke til å fungere i et land med 330 millioner mennesker, på grunn av det har USA en annen status quo. Dette er en veldig nyansert diskusjon som krever et mye klokere perspektiv enn å bare hevde at amerikanerne mener at velferd er kommunisme.
If we want a fair debate we need an unbiased news agency to host. Not abc not nbc not FOX. Just an unbiased news agency where no one gets cut off and both people debating are treated fairly. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
if no one ever got cut off, the republicans would continue to lie endlessly. they would insist on having the last word on every single argument and they would take twice as long to argue with every rebuttal and fact check.
This is a good sign. We can be respectful, show common courtesy. Listen to one another. Find common ground. Look for real solutions, that are mutually beneficial, for all. And when we have opposing views, respectfully agree to disagree. Be diplomatic. Respect. It is important how we treat one another. These are core values, that are biblical. God is Love.
Yup. Simply put and you nailed it. Maybe because the 2 moderators were not D.E.I. hires. (2) white straight women. Holy smokes. Most fair debate I’ve seen this year. 🇺🇸
@@seif9923Walz LOST and he LOST bad, he looks flustered with him always writing Notes that didn’t even helped him not one bit. If you thought Walz did ok then you probably thought Biden did great on the first debate vs Trump. Delusional🤦♂️🤣😂
I think Vance did an actually good job here. He showed cordial responses and respect. I think waltz really did a good job pointing out the failures of the Trump campaign. The thing that I have seen that news media hasn't been purporting enough is when Vance says that he will agree that climate change is real just so they aren't arguing over weird science. That is such a highlight because it goes to show what kind of candidate he is. That he's willing to lie about the facts of science. He's literally arguing that he may not believe the 2 + 2 equals 4 but just for the sake of argument he's willing to say that it is just this once. That is a messed up frame of mind that somebody could argue that because they have an opinion that differs from facts that they will go along with the facts just this once in a debate just for sake of argument
For those of you who are bashing the moderators for FACT CHECKING a candidate for LYING: there was a time when journalists would report the truth, rather than passively allow misinformation to be broadcast to millions of people, despite the imbeciles who would rather be lied to, so that they could feel good about their false beliefs.
Except for live fact-checking was against the rules for the debate and she violated them. She deserves to face backlash for not following the rules she agreed to as the moderator.
She fact checked incorrectly trying to misinform the people, yet you call this out. Are you brainwashed only today or normally everyday? It was also against the rules by CBS which is now liable for a lawsuit. You would be fuming if they ever fact checked Walz. You are as corrupted as they are.
Notice how they never asked Walz about his terrible response to the rioting in Minnesota? That alone would have shown he's unfit to be in the white house.
@@ndo533 There were rules and they were violated. JD vance was cut off because he was cooking. If it was on Fox news you'd rage. When you agree to rules you don't violate them.
Walz said he misspoke? That's twice in a row now. He didn't even answer the question directly. How can you say you have been in a place where a massacre occurred when you were not?
Right and how many times will Vance say horrible things about trump that he needs to walk back? "Trump makes the people I care about scared" is pretty damning to just walk back! Let's focus on that!
He said he was there in the spring, but he actually went in the summer. How is that a big deal? He misspoke twice. And? How many times do people misspeak daily?
The only jobs I see available are McDonald’s Burger King sonic etc. where’s the good paying jobs at. The so called “jobs” that they established are all low paying which means you can’t live comfortably at all.
The young man is undisputed and believe me the young man is a future Goat in debate watch the space 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 CBS with Kamala lost 😂 Red Sea is powerful 🎉🎉🎉
@@DJSupaSlimso did the moderators. And they were supposed to be no fact checks which is why they cut Vance’s mic because he was calling them out for their unfairness.
The 25,000 Haitians that Kamala dumped off in Springfield, Ohio was illegal. Vance was correct. JD Vance points out that TPS (Temporary Protected Status) as well as Mass Parole (person authorized to be here) is NOT to be used for mass migration. It's to be used on a INDIVIDUAL, case-by-case basis only. "If that country is eligible for TPS, as designated by CONGRESS in response to some event in the home country that made him or her a refugee, the INDIVIDUAL may be eligible for TPS. TPS is only for people from designated countries, who were ALREADY LIVING IN THE US , when TPS was designated for that country. TPS holders are allowed to live and work lawfully in the United States for a certain period."
Tough words from a white man who's family isn't from America originally. They immigrated. Even the Pope has said immigration should be a universal right. That's a lot coming from an institution who has a thing for children.
I can't take any reporter (woman or man) seriously when they are so obviously scripted! These anchors need to 'grow a pair' and stand up for Honest Journalism! CBS, ABC, they're all guilty of it. The viewers are tired of watching the BS. Just get back to what Journalism is supposed to be. You know... The Truth.
As a Senator and lawyer, Vance fully understands the important of doing research, not listening to only media. Vance's reply is a misrepresentation of his SHIFTS in policy changes to align with Trump.
The so called “moderators” were awfully biased and attempted to poison the well with questions against Republicans and J.D. Vance. Nevertheless, Vance dominated Walz.
If I wasn't familiar with the REAL Vance,I might vote for him because he was more articulate. But since I DO know what Vance has said, his slick lies were appalling. He was sanewashing Trump's hate rhetoric as if it never happens. Walz was nervous, but in knowing him, he has my vote. I'm a republican voting Harris/Walz all the way. We need an adult as a leader. Donald is truly unhinged.
@@Sidewinder528 f.e. when it came to Springfield Ohio, honestly there are so many examples by Trump alone over time i wouldn't even know where to start, maybe with the fals accusations by advertisment in the NYT of the New York central park 5 where Trump demanded the death penalty for wrongly accused teens.
Vance is right when talking about the mental health problems in the US. The problem is they will not do ANYTHING to improve access to mental health care. So why bring it up? Gaslighting. That is how he answers just about every question. “Yes, that problem does exist. And we’re not going to do anything about the biggest contributor to the problem. Here’s a minor thing that contributes to that problem that we also are unwilling to do anything about.”
In California is starting to charge two dollars a mile for electric vehicles because they’re not making revenue of gas taxes. Just think of that what’s gonna happen in the future we’re gonna be paying like crazy.
Making more gas and oil did and will not STOP any of the increasing disasters in endued in America or the world.. when Americans loss their home and/or livelihood due to floods or tornados, no one says, "my home and jobs would still be here, if I had more oil and gas."
As a married man with 5 children and a low/middle class american all i want is money in my pocket in case of emergencies and to be able to feed my children and be able to buy my first home and i truly dont believe kamala can do that for us.
Highly encourage you to look at the proposed economic plans for BOTH candidates. Look at what benefits you will have for your income range. I believe your opinion will change. Look at unbias factual data.
Only fact checking one side implies that the other side is honest. Government is full of professional liars, pick the policy you want not the person. I want the food industry changed, to be able to afford to live, and to be out of all war. Everyone knows who is pushing that agenda, but will still vote for corporate interests and only hear appeal to emotions.
In a recent blog post on AdvancingTime I explored the idea many people don't think it matters who a presidential candidate chooses as a running mate, but, it kinda does. This becomes even more important if they are up in age or in bad health. After witnessing the rapid decline of Joe Biden, the importance of who will step into the Oval Office if the need arises should be elevated.
Why don't they have people fact check on when Trump advised people to stand tall and meet on Jan 6th? I believe it was in November...you know when he accepted the vote peacefully
Of course , a partisan and biased network will invite someone who agrees with them. This is called Confirmation Bias... Meaningless and useless interview..
As a person who wrote the foreword for the book "Dawn's Early Light Taking Back Washington to Save America", authored by Kevin Roberts (who wrote the foreword for the book Project 2025), JD has already aligned himself with Trump's Agenda 47 and Project 2025 and will advise Trump to support its implementation.
You mean like, Walz, you were not in China when you said you were,...... (watch it her, divert deny and defame coming) oh the people of Minnesota elected me knowing I lied so there.......... lol
5:32 turns into a minute of the hosts unable to regulate the debate, and both candidates interrupting to take time by force in order to advocate for their agenda… not sure how that’s “strong,” rather than wild or crass… Very beginning was JD ignoring the subject of a direct question… And frankly both their answers up to this point weren’t very reassuring, rather, seemingly confused while just trying to look good. It’s too hard to watch…. These debates are worthless. Not even worth watching the highlights apparently…
Walz is not someone qualified to be VP, and it showed in this debate. His responses, his reactions, facial expressions were all 'awkward'. 😮 Vote Republican
Springfield Ohio had a down turn till the migrants came and helped to lift that city/area back up again. Do you therefor have a need for housing, sure, so build houses, but you don't send those back home that helped you out when you were in a bind, because that then would be disgraceful.
Illegals being dumped all over. Springfield is the perfect little town that no one knows about that the crap democrat leaders can infuse illegals. This is not just being done in my state of NY. Remember when the illegals were sent to Marthas Vineyard the elites sent them somewhere else. NIMBY There are plenty of independent journalists exposing this dumping all over. I just watched a Peter Santinella clip about rural Massachusetts being used to dump illegals.
The commentators were absolutely horrible. How difficult is it to he fair? Before they fact check, they should know the facts. Where were the questions about all the lies TW spewed?
What were/are they bias on? CBS was NEVER sued and lost for reporting false infomation. There is another network thar recently paid $787 Million and used the statement "We're an entertainment station, NOT news" as their defense.
One could argue about nuclear energy to b ring down emissions and therefor battle climate change, one can not do so with natural gas, especially not with fracking gas that creates even more problems. The counter point to nuclear energy though is the costs involved. Energy from renewable energy sources have become a lot cheaper then energy from nuclear energy and there isn't even factored in how to store the nuclear waste safly for hundreds of years.
This is how adults are expected to debate. Respect to both.
weird, i thought adults were expected to debate by telling the truth. vance literally whined that he was called out on his lies and then continued to lie until his mic had to be shut off.
@@dietotakuAre you talking about how many illegal immigrants that came into the country? He literally explained why he was right. Why not talk about Walz' Tiennamen square experience?
@@dietotakuAt least JD was right about what he said. Walz waltz'd around every serious question. JD was like a Trump that stayed on point. Walz was like a smarter Kamala. As for Walz talking about abortion, it has already been decided that each state will vote for themselves on how they want to go about it.
@@dietotakuI hope you see the light someday.
Agreed.
I am an American citizen. I petitioned for my daughter's permanent residence in 2020. There has not been progress. She works for a Swedish company in Atlanta and is paying tax over 30%. The same legal process should be applied to everyone.
Yet we have all these illegal immigrants getting paid in cash and paying $0 on income tax.
It should all be easier
I'm in the same boat. I am a 100% disabled veteran and me and my German wife have been waiting for her green card for 18 months.
Agreed 100 %
Why aren’t these two the presidential nominees ??? Trump and Kamala are both jokes
Waltz is crazy
I strongly agree with that comment, these two are pretty solid
Harris is a joke, Trump was a great President and had amazing policies. Loved it better under him than Biden/Harris.
You gotta stop lying to yourself.
Biden/Harris $$$ for one.
the guy screaming about getting fact checked and made up lies about Haitian's? YES LETS GET THEM IN ASAP
What a refreshing contrast to civil debating on real policies.
@Neutronism7If that's what's most important to people no wonder US is in trouble
Full agree with all.
with the most biased clown "moderators" I've ever seen
Oh SU Mr no fun…we need to get what laughs we can out of this…bc if Harris is elected NO ONE will be smiling.
It was a well spoken debate by both Vance and Walz., much better than the presidential debate....MUCH better.....let's just leave there...now, to ask who won is utterly pointless. Democrats will Walz and Republicans will say Vance....🤷♂️. Just vote for whoever you want and keep it moving. No president moving forward will ever be able to fix our country anyway. It's too broken and certain powers and people want to keep it broken...
I have to disagree the country was a lot better off when Trump was in office
So true
I can't argue that, however, he did inherit a decent to solid economy from his predecessor and ran with it until Covid was intentionally released. Now, should he get elected again, i would like to see him rebuild the current state of our economy from ground zero. I would highly doubt that. Its going to be hard for either candidate to do that., with the middle east and Russia/Ukraine situation. But you are right, inflation, gas, all that was good under him...
Covid was intentionally released? Show us proof.
Either way, after this, and supply shortages WORKDWIDE, inflation became WORLDWIDE. Whether Trump, Biden or Lincoln was in office would not have mattered.
@Seibertz Google gas prices in March 2017 when trump was in office. Then Google gas prices during obamas term. Tell me when you were paying cheaper
Walz face when Vance mentioned Hilary was impeccable 😂
Best 😂❤😂
21:18 🤙
He looked like a deer in headlights 😂
Haha man his whole demeanor changed. Hillary is the DNC boogie woman
10 times smarter than both their running mates, put these two on one bill together.
Slick tongue doesnt mean sharp mind, my man. Politicians have slick tongue.
I personally do not like Vance, but he is an excellent debater.
Tampon Tim is the liar
@@quadroscmyou reek of Facebook minion memes💀
@@driven9863 it's really sad that I share the same candidate choice as you... this is why politics is in the state it is now.
@@MatthewCrucianiSame here. JD won the debate and demonstrated why he won against the moderators and Tim in an eloquent manner. After this, I would definitely rather have JD than Trump.
@@MatthewCrucianiSame here, I would rather have JD than Trump, but Trump also has a decent record as president.
WOW! how refreshing. the best debate we have seen in so many years
I knew JDs eye liner would be extra on point for this 💫
That’s all I could look at 😂
I thought he was hot during the debate but I had to stay focused on the task.
I don’t think he has eyeliner on lol. I think it’s bc his eyes are so blue his eyelashes stick out more.
I said this to my fiancé 😂 I was like is homie wearing eyeliner??
Pete Wentz approves
The legal process is the most important component to all the policies that are in place.
Noticed, the way he explained legal process literally proved those hatians aren't illegal..... they just didn't go through the avenue he would've liked to aquire their legal status lol
Of course the politicians are not stupid, they would cover their backs riding on some policies that could work their way.
But the point is the context that Vance was trying to explain : Kamala has been LETTING immigrants in OPENLY, where they are given "Legal" status much quicker than normal legitimate immigrants. You probably still won't understand this but in my country, this happened and it was a serious issue. Crime rate definitely increase, and government spending too. And why does the politicians do this? Because they want to get more voters for themselves by holding these "Legal" immigrant at ransom. It is already a known fact that they were told to vote certain party in order to get the "green card"
@@El_Aristocratthat’s not true. If they would have went three legal process, they would be able to have proof of their perm. Residency and it would have taken them much longer to get here. My husband came from Ukraine legally, it took him 6yrs to come here and he was seeking asylum!!! Know your facts before you just believe these fake news stories
Vance is a really good debater
They both were very well spoken.
One was honest and the other a smooth LIAR!
Honestly they are both more likable than their running mates.
This reminds me when I was a kid and found out wrestling was fake 😮
if you’re reading this comment, never argue about politics unless you are willing to discuss politics like THIS. anyone ought to trust these two more than our Presidential candidates.
Vance fact checks the moderators LOL
You mean when he cried about them fact checking him bc he was lying so badly out of his aas??🤣🤣🤣 maga on Earth 2 in a nutshell
@@ndo533he didn’t lie, he told the truth!
@@retwerts you seem to be struggling with a little concept called reality. Prob get duped every day. Interested in crypto?😂
Walz at the end mentioned that was due to a law from the 1990s, not as Vance accused it to be due to Harris. Sofar i have not seen a rebuttal.
edit:spelling
@@kinngrimm And did you purposely missed out the part, where Vance said that it has not actually been the law since the 1990s? Or you just cherry picking stuff to fit your agenda?
I would vote for either one of them, but painful to vote neither one of their bosses.
I think both should just team up as President and Vice President Candidates. They have different views on many things but have respect for one another and are probably willing to listen to each other's advice to get things done better. 😊
Yeah, right... and I'm probably going to buy a Ferrari next year
Not with little Timmy.....LOL
vance doesn't actually have respect for anyone. he is a grifter just like his running mate.
Why turn off the mics when important context is given? 6:00
Because he was lying. The "CB1" he's trying to explain.....was created in 2020....under Trump and that's when most of the Haitians were allowed in. The city was actually actively looking for workers. So blame the Republican governor and mayor if you don't like immigrants. The city was slowly dying, but now the city is actually growing...and I don't mean by population. The economy has doubled since their arrival. And yes...problems come along with that in city services.....but making up scare tactics that lead to bomb threats doesn't help the city resources out at all. The 15,000 or so Haitians are here LEGALLY under the law. They're not eating dog, cat, geese. There's several made up stories about how that started. One, a neighbor in Springfield couldn't find her dog...so she called the police and blamed her Haitian neighbors for stealing it and eating it....and she posted in online. A day or two later....she found the dog in her basement. When that story got out there..other internet trolls went to work. There was a TikTok video of a black guy carrying geese and implied it was a Haitian killing geese and taking them home in Springfield. First, he wasn't Haitian, it didn't happen in Springfield, and a car hit the geese on the side of the road and the guy was picking them up...TMZ of all places figured this out. And of course...the Presidential and V.P. nominees get their information off the internet. Even though J.D. Vance was giving the facts, that the stories weren't true from the city mayor.
@@cscotet4202WRONG
Because they don't want us to know what's actually happening 😂😂😂
Context? CONTEXT!?? We CAN’T have THAT…🙂↔️…people might THEN be able to MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS
😱😱😱
Exactly, they don’t want the truth to be told, same clan!
They both have some good points. Love to finally see some empathetic interaction and civility.
Christ, these two debated like they were going to create their own ticket after the debate 😂
CBS was humilated live on air. Vance is a powerhouse!
@@chaseb5376 I defend free speech, even if it allows incoherent people, like you, to make poor analogies, like the one that you made.
@@chaseb5376 Your about as coherent as Kamala, I'll give you that.
Vance just put on a masterclass. He clobbered all three of them.
Gaslighted them is not masterclass 😂😂😂
What did you watch? Because that is not what happened.
@@kristee2947 Weird, Polymarket had Walz at a 75% chance to win the debate, post debate it's down to 30%. Even the flash polls by left leaning CBS said JD won the debate 🤣
If Tim Walz sold you his used truck, he'd spend thirty minutes telling you everything that could possibly be wrong with it and then insist on replacing the brake pads before he'd sell it to you, just to be safe. JD Vance would fast talk you into a patched together piece of crap and laugh at you when it dumped the oil out halfway to your house.
By the way, Walz got a bigger bump than Vance did. "In a Politico snap poll of the debate, while voters were split 50-50 on who won, Walz was seen to have won with independents by 58-42. He was also preferred as vice president by 44 percent of independents, with 36 percent choosing Vance." That's huge, and those are the voters that are going to matter in November.
@@diamonddog2500@ diamonddog2500 JD did a good job of making a good first impression which is a win. Walz seemed nervous in the beginning.
A well-spoken lie is still a lie.
Real
lmao you're mad because vance won
Agreed....all the lies came from one person: Little Timmy. American people have learned to distrust this fellow since his stolen valor LOL
Pretty sure you wear a pink hair... Mtcheeewww
Common sense not common at all
Trump would win in your freaking face! Wonder what you're gonna do then...😂
If citizens of Finland enjoy better mental health, do you ever wonder why? Perhaps it is because their government makes accesses to education and healthcare easier and more affordable for them as well as other programs that assist the population.
Nope its demographics.
They pay high taxes to cover their social services, but everyone seems to think that's fine. Scandinavians are well educated and happy.
It used to be good here in Finland but nowadays it's not so good any more. As a scandinavian I find it weird American thinks it's communism to have a healthcare for all and that they are actually against it.
@@tromedl Jeg bor i Skandinavia og har også bodd i USA i 7 år. Det at amerikanerne mener at gratis helsetjenester er kommunisme er rett og slett en stråmann. Faktumet er at de nordiske landene er høytillitssamfunn som har alltid hatt lave sosiale ulikheter, høy kapital, og lite konflikt mellom ulike interesser selv før gjennomføringen av velferdsstaten. Derfor fungerer velferdsstaten i norden. Over tiden må nordiske land også justere politikken sin og privatisere mer fordi de må ta i hensyn populasjonsveksten og andre endringer i omstendighetene. Det som fungerer i Norge som er en oljerik land med samme antall innbyggere som Massachussetts kommer ikke til å fungere i et land med 330 millioner mennesker, på grunn av det har USA en annen status quo. Dette er en veldig nyansert diskusjon som krever et mye klokere perspektiv enn å bare hevde at amerikanerne mener at velferd er kommunisme.
85.9% of the popualtion are ethnic Finn's. With similar heritage, religion and language.
Damn I think Vance should be president
Maybe next term!
@@quadroscm nah we already have one of those. She’s running.
He will be a president one day
Walz looks at vance like dads talking 😂
was a good debate , those mods gotta go !
So, Vence fact-checked the modorators 😂
When he fact checked them, he was cut off! Disgraceful moderator!
@@sl5693the definition of fake news. They are so biased, blatantly biased. Seemed set up to help walz not look like the fool he is.
@sl5693 ehm no they fact checked him for blatantly telling lies.
Well that ended the fact checking to we will cut off mics and won’t we when want to hear the left.
Mics were cut off after Vance kept interrupting. They each had their time to respond....Vance wanted more time to cleanup his comments.
If we want a fair debate we need an unbiased news agency to host. Not abc not nbc not FOX. Just an unbiased news agency where no one gets cut off and both people debating are treated fairly. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
if no one ever got cut off, the republicans would continue to lie endlessly. they would insist on having the last word on every single argument and they would take twice as long to argue with every rebuttal and fact check.
This is a good sign. We can be respectful, show common courtesy. Listen to one another. Find common ground. Look for real solutions, that are mutually beneficial, for all. And when we have opposing views, respectfully agree to disagree. Be diplomatic. Respect. It is important how we treat one another. These are core values, that are biblical. God is Love.
Moderators were hacks for Waltz and he still lost.
If Trump says your dad is a lady u will believe he won 😂
Yup. Simply put and you nailed it.
Maybe because the 2 moderators were not D.E.I. hires.
(2) white straight women. Holy smokes.
Most fair debate I’ve seen this year. 🇺🇸
no one lost it was a good debate and vance lied and its obvious, but obviously he didn't lose he talked good.
Vance couldn’t say trump lost the last election
@@seif9923Walz LOST and he LOST bad, he looks flustered with him always writing Notes that didn’t even helped him not one bit. If you thought Walz did ok then you probably thought Biden did great on the first debate vs Trump. Delusional🤦♂️🤣😂
I think Vance did an actually good job here. He showed cordial responses and respect. I think waltz really did a good job pointing out the failures of the Trump campaign. The thing that I have seen that news media hasn't been purporting enough is when Vance says that he will agree that climate change is real just so they aren't arguing over weird science. That is such a highlight because it goes to show what kind of candidate he is. That he's willing to lie about the facts of science. He's literally arguing that he may not believe the 2 + 2 equals 4 but just for the sake of argument he's willing to say that it is just this once. That is a messed up frame of mind that somebody could argue that because they have an opinion that differs from facts that they will go along with the facts just this once in a debate just for sake of argument
For those of you who are bashing the moderators for FACT CHECKING a candidate for LYING: there was a time when journalists would report the truth, rather than passively allow misinformation to be broadcast to millions of people, despite the imbeciles who would rather be lied to, so that they could feel good about their false beliefs.
Except for live fact-checking was against the rules for the debate and she violated them. She deserves to face backlash for not following the rules she agreed to as the moderator.
@amber_b1723 so you prefer a full blown liar???. Maga in a nutshell. Just ridiculous
She fact checked incorrectly trying to misinform the people, yet you call this out. Are you brainwashed only today or normally everyday? It was also against the rules by CBS which is now liable for a lawsuit. You would be fuming if they ever fact checked Walz. You are as corrupted as they are.
Notice how they never asked Walz about his terrible response to the rioting in Minnesota? That alone would have shown he's unfit to be in the white house.
@@ndo533 There were rules and they were violated. JD vance was cut off because he was cooking. If it was on Fox news you'd rage. When you agree to rules you don't violate them.
JD Vance won the debate!
Up until now I was not impressed by Vance, but I respect how these two debated, calmly & with respect.
Walz was also part of the 9/11 firefighter brigade and rescued people before the World Trade Center collapsed!!
3 against one again, thank God J.D. knows how to slam dunk
Call me crazy. But can we shake things up and vote Walz- Vance. This seems like two people that can actually answer questions and have a conversation.
You will get your chance in 2028, you can vote Vance for president.
J.D. had such a great night especially since he was taking on three women
Walz said he misspoke? That's twice in a row now. He didn't even answer the question directly. How can you say you have been in a place where a massacre occurred when you were not?
Right and how many times will Vance say horrible things about trump that he needs to walk back? "Trump makes the people I care about scared" is pretty damning to just walk back! Let's focus on that!
He said he was there in the spring, but he actually went in the summer. How is that a big deal? He misspoke twice. And? How many times do people misspeak daily?
Tianamen Tim
How can you not have enough spine to say Trump lost in 2020....CLEAR CUT LOST!
The same way everything that comes out Trumps mouth is lies. Simple.
Walz offers word pudding to finish the meal of word salad from Harris.
Vance all the way
Clearly evident again- it was the republican candidate against the moderators. Walz gets a free pass the whole night from them
The only jobs I see available are McDonald’s Burger King sonic etc. where’s the good paying jobs at. The so called “jobs” that they established are all low paying which means you can’t live comfortably at all.
The young man is undisputed and believe me the young man is a future Goat in debate watch the space 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 CBS with Kamala lost 😂 Red Sea is powerful 🎉🎉🎉
Walz was just atrocious. Vance literally solidified my vote for the Republicans.
actually it was very decent debate
2028 debate bouta be crazy💀
Cutting Vance's mic was unprofessional, biased, and embarrassing. People are going to remember this.
They both agreed to the rules
@@DJSupaSlimso did the moderators. And they were supposed to be no fact checks which is why they cut Vance’s mic because he was calling them out for their unfairness.
Yes we are while voting 🗳 democrats down the 🎟 🎫.
😂😂😂
JD Vance has a nice resting smile. SO HANDSOME!
🤮😂
Super handsome
The 25,000 Haitians that Kamala dumped off in Springfield, Ohio was illegal. Vance was correct. JD Vance points out that TPS (Temporary Protected Status) as well as Mass Parole (person authorized to be here) is NOT to be used for mass migration. It's to be used on a INDIVIDUAL, case-by-case basis only. "If that country is eligible for TPS, as designated by CONGRESS in response to some event in the home country that made him or her a refugee, the INDIVIDUAL may be eligible for TPS. TPS is only for people from designated countries, who were ALREADY LIVING IN THE US , when TPS was designated for that country. TPS holders are allowed to live and work lawfully in the United States for a certain period."
They were granted temporary asylum so they could vote
Tough words from a white man who's family isn't from America originally. They immigrated. Even the Pope has said immigration should be a universal right. That's a lot coming from an institution who has a thing for children.
"Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.".
OMG I love her 😂
I can't take any reporter (woman or man) seriously when they are so obviously scripted!
These anchors need to 'grow a pair' and stand up for Honest Journalism! CBS, ABC, they're all guilty of it. The viewers are tired of watching the BS.
Just get back to what Journalism is supposed to be.
You know...
The Truth.
As a Senator and lawyer, Vance fully understands the important of doing research, not listening to only media. Vance's reply is a misrepresentation of his SHIFTS in policy changes to align with Trump.
why do these debates are always on left wing media? can the deems have some balls and do on on fox?
Only in America would CBS be considered left wing. It's centre-right at best.
Vance won. Walz is a joke
The so called “moderators” were awfully biased and attempted to poison the well with questions against Republicans and J.D. Vance. Nevertheless, Vance dominated Walz.
If I wasn't familiar with the REAL Vance,I might vote for him because he was more articulate. But since I DO know what Vance has said, his slick lies were appalling. He was sanewashing Trump's hate rhetoric as if it never happens. Walz was nervous, but in knowing him, he has my vote. I'm a republican voting Harris/Walz all the way. We need an adult as a leader. Donald is truly unhinged.
What hate rhetoric?
Pathetic response as usual
@@Sidewinder528 f.e. when it came to Springfield Ohio, honestly there are so many examples by Trump alone over time i wouldn't even know where to start, maybe with the fals accusations by advertisment in the NYT of the New York central park 5 where Trump demanded the death penalty for wrongly accused teens.
@RobinJames-p8k it's a Chinese bot 😂
Walz was at least offering a policy vision. Vance just keeps saying that the Democrats have got it wrong!
Vance is right when talking about the mental health problems in the US. The problem is they will not do ANYTHING to improve access to mental health care.
So why bring it up? Gaslighting.
That is how he answers just about every question. “Yes, that problem does exist. And we’re not going to do anything about the biggest contributor to the problem. Here’s a minor thing that contributes to that problem that we also are unwilling to do anything about.”
In California is starting to charge two dollars a mile for electric vehicles because they’re not making revenue of gas taxes. Just think of that what’s gonna happen in the future we’re gonna be paying like crazy.
Vance looks more like the president than Trump! Maybe Trump should step down like Biden did for his party. Do you think Trump would do it??? Hmmm
Both are good presidential candidates
The moderators try so hard to cut Vance off
13:44 gurgle 😂
11:00 "i have been extremly, consistent" Not to his own admission just before he said this.
Making more gas and oil did and will not STOP any of the increasing disasters in endued in America or the world.. when Americans loss their home and/or livelihood due to floods or tornados, no one says, "my home and jobs would still be here, if I had more oil and gas."
As a married man with 5 children and a low/middle class american all i want is money in my pocket in case of emergencies and to be able to feed my children and be able to buy my first home and i truly dont believe kamala can do that for us.
Highly encourage you to look at the proposed economic plans for BOTH candidates.
Look at what benefits you will have for your income range. I believe your opinion will change. Look at unbias factual data.
you’re delusional if you think Trump is going to help you - he only wants to help himself and his rich friends
When he said the GI bill I about threw a rock at him. Then I checked myself
sorry...if it was peaceful, shouldn't there have been a welcoming committee at the doors and windows that the "tourists" were coming through?
Only fact checking one side implies that the other side is honest. Government is full of professional liars, pick the policy you want not the person. I want the food industry changed, to be able to afford to live, and to be out of all war. Everyone knows who is pushing that agenda, but will still vote for corporate interests and only hear appeal to emotions.
Cut off after the mic cut . Just bs let them talk clown lady
lol, look he was standing in the picture with the bravest human ever, in front of the tank!
Hillbilly Eulogist is a chameleon opportunist. Really hates Trump still.
In a recent blog post on AdvancingTime I explored the idea many people don't think it matters who a presidential candidate chooses as a running mate, but, it kinda does. This becomes even more important if they are up in age or in bad health. After witnessing the rapid decline of Joe Biden, the importance of who will step into the Oval Office if the need arises should be elevated.
Why don't they have people fact check on when Trump advised people to stand tall and meet on Jan 6th? I believe it was in November...you know when he accepted the vote peacefully
At 6:00, the debate moderators were about as condescending and sarcastic as you can get. Very unprofessional.
Moderators are so greasy, ol jd put the one in pink in her place pretty quick
Of course , a partisan and biased network will invite someone who agrees with them. This is called Confirmation Bias... Meaningless and useless interview..
I’m sorry, did I just witness actual adults debating and doing their job as civil servants in 2024
JD Vance was brilliant and CBS biased moderators were horrendous! Next VP is JD Vance!!!
As a person who wrote the foreword for the book "Dawn's Early Light
Taking Back Washington to Save America", authored by Kevin Roberts (who wrote the foreword for the book Project 2025), JD has already aligned himself with Trump's Agenda 47 and Project 2025 and will advise Trump to support its implementation.
Vance is so very slick or slimey. Divert, deny and defame.
You mean like, Walz, you were not in China when you said you were,...... (watch it her, divert deny and defame coming) oh the people of Minnesota elected me knowing I lied so there.......... lol
5:32 turns into a minute of the hosts unable to regulate the debate, and both candidates interrupting to take time by force in order to advocate for their agenda… not sure how that’s “strong,” rather than wild or crass…
Very beginning was JD ignoring the subject of a direct question…
And frankly both their answers up to this point weren’t very reassuring, rather, seemingly confused while just trying to look good. It’s too hard to watch…. These debates are worthless. Not even worth watching the highlights apparently…
Walz is a joke and these two women are a disgrace, so disrespectful towards Vance.. they hate the truth. Well done Vance 👏
Refreshing to see V & W nodding, agreeing on some topics, debating with respect.
Walz is not someone qualified to be VP, and it showed in this debate. His responses, his reactions, facial expressions were all 'awkward'. 😮
Vote Republican
Why is it so much to get to? Fewer questions, more policy breakdown, more debate.
I can see JD as a potential president !
Let’s not forget how Waltz allowed the rioters to burn down Minnesota during the Floyd riot
Springfield Ohio had a down turn till the migrants came and helped to lift that city/area back up again. Do you therefor have a need for housing, sure, so build houses, but you don't send those back home that helped you out when you were in a bind, because that then would be disgraceful.
Illegals being dumped all over. Springfield is the perfect little town that no one knows about that the crap democrat leaders can infuse illegals. This is not just being done in my state of NY. Remember when the illegals were sent to Marthas Vineyard the elites sent them somewhere else. NIMBY There are plenty of independent journalists exposing this dumping all over. I just watched a Peter Santinella clip about rural Massachusetts being used to dump illegals.
Tim Walz lecturing JD Vance😂😅
The commentators were absolutely horrible. How difficult is it to he fair? Before they fact check, they should know the facts. Where were the questions about all the lies TW spewed?
You cannot perform better than Vance did. Marvelous
Cbs isnso corrupt. Were gonnanfact check but leave out inconvenient facts that makenour chosen candidate look bad.
With the dock worker strike going on will the liberals please make sure joey gets his ice cream. He needs a sun tan lotion too
Where is Joe? He comes out every now and then and then he’s back to basement or the garage
Best debate yet although how is CBS legally allowed to have the word “news” as part of their name? They are so biased on everything it’s so exhausting
What were/are they bias on? CBS was NEVER sued and lost for reporting false infomation. There is another network thar recently paid $787 Million and used the statement "We're an entertainment station, NOT news" as their defense.
The average victim of a shooting in MN is 15 or under?
I think I need to read the definition of "peacefully"...I would hate to imagine what "violently" means.
One could argue about nuclear energy to b ring down emissions and therefor battle climate change, one can not do so with natural gas, especially not with fracking gas that creates even more problems. The counter point to nuclear energy though is the costs involved. Energy from renewable energy sources have become a lot cheaper then energy from nuclear energy and there isn't even factored in how to store the nuclear waste safly for hundreds of years.
The answer is Thorium/Plutonium
January 6 done Mrs.Pelosy and BLM of Mr. Shummer!!?