It's exciting to see the Chinese budget brands getting to super telephoto primes now. At this price and weight/size this looks like a really good deal to me!
You should look up the "CangYe" 500mm which is like 30$. Basically two pieces of PVC pipe, a camera mount and one telescope element. It is obviously not good but it is really fun, and a little modification like painting the interior black would improve contrast by a lot. They make these really cheap stuff that have intentional artifacts as toys but some are actually interesting.
They sent me the same gear to request a review and the biggest thing for me was the glass quality being way too soft for my standard nowadays when I used it, probably the softest I've ever used. The manual focus was less of a big deal to me then how soft this lens was haha. But, $320 for a super telephoto is a steal for getting started so when you're starting out you're right! On a side note, the aesthetic of it was a refreshing change too lol.
@42reasons2panic it generally means that it's not rendering things as sharp as possible. With a 'soft' glass, you'll notice ... softness. Contrast might be low or the lines just don't seem sharp enough, or there is some colour fringing (usually purples coming from high contrast situations). Think about the fact that the lenses are glass elements shaped to bend light to focus the light at the end where your sensor is. Light has many different wavelengths and so you need to bend each visible wavelength at a different time so that they line up to make a sharp image and this is a hard thing to do, which is why good lenses have many glass elements to figure the puzzle out. If you've seen a movie from the 70s or 80s, you can see how lenses back then were softer and things seemed slightly blurry or dream-like. Hope that made sense as I'm sure it can be described better, but yea.
What did you compare it to? I have a vintage zuiko 300mm f4.5 and it is sharper than panasonic 100-300 on mft. Been thinking of getting this while saving for the Olympus 300mm f4, but not sure if it’s worth the reach on mft if it is soft on ff.
Best timing! I wanted to get into wildlife photography and did not know which lens to get other than a +2000/3000$ (CAN). Which, for a casual photographer, is EXPENSIVE. I will look into this lens for sure! Thank you for the video ❤
I got a used Sigma 150-500mm 5.6-6.3 for the same price (300€)at a large camera store. I have never regretted it. Its old but a photographer with a 200-600mm tamron did envy it for its focus speed.
You could also look at one of the cheaper zooms from Lumix and Olympus for the MFT system. I use the Lumix 100-300 myself and have been pleased with the results.
@@silverforever15 a solar eclipse is not moving fast, so manual is OK. But you could get a used 1200mm mirror lens for that price to shoot better images of any eclipse or moon event
When I started bird photography with a pentax S1a 35mm film camera except for my short focus lenses all my longer lenses were manual. They were still capable of producing good photos in good light because manual focus and aperture were challenging to deal with in low light. They were all primes since zooms available at the time were photographically useless. During lockdown I reviewed some of my old images and was surprised at the occasional gems. Most of the images were rubbish of course and sometimes had grain like golfballs. I have no nostalgia for that era.
Do you have then uploaded somewhere? I seems rare to find film wildlife photography, at least I don't know how to find, I would love to see a analog RUclipsr doing a video about or someone that is experienced with wildlife photography trying to use a film camera
An used Sigma 150-500 is findable at +- 450-500, and it has AF, stabilization. I love the idea of an 500mm manual but at f:1:6.3 even with focus peaking it becomes quite hazardous to get a sharp shot. I have the Tamron SP500 f1:8, great lens when focused correctly but very difficult.
Old film camera were super easy to focus, due to the split prism focusing system. I think that's easier to use, at least much more accurately, than focus peaking
Yes. Very much so. I nail focus on my vintage lenses on my analog camera, but the same lenses on my digital… I miss a lot of shots due to the focus peaking not focusing correctly. I am an amateur though, I will add that. 😆
Add some $200 and you can find nice 2nd hand Sigma 50-500/4-6.3 with AF. Or even cheaper lenses like Sig150-500, Sig170-500. Manual 500/6.3 is toy that should be in $150 price range. And concerning the size, there are also manual mirror lenses like 500/6.3 and 500/8.
Looking at the pics, I think it is not bad. There are locations or activities where you do not want to risk your expensive gear. The lack of weather sealing can be overcome by a cheap raincoat. It is better than not having a tele for the occasion
@@pujan9775 rants? Ok… Its your thing if you think thats just rants. Just buy this damn lens and enjoy shaky footage as well the missing capability of shooting birds in flight. Then think of the one guy who rants in those comment sections about the things you desperately miss on your 100% manual lens without stabiliser. Its not just IS and AF… its a damn prime lens and the metal build makes it unnecessary heavy. No flexibility due to fixed 500mm, just disadvantages compared to any other low budget super telezoom lens which costs 2nd hand about as much as this lens new.
@@pujan9775 im pretty sure its not too bad for stationary birds with modern focus peaking, but the fact alone that you dont have any autofocus at all, combined with missing stabiliser makes this lens in my opinion not worth more than 200$, at least i would not pay more for all the missing and bad stuff. And if i would buy this lens, then it would be with a high chance just a simple and small astrophotography lens on a FF camera as alternative to my 750mm F4 newtonian.
Thanks for the review and really nice shots! Manual focus with fast moving wildlife definitely makes it more challenging. Interesting lens, but glad someone is making a decent telephoto at a reasonable price. Seems like a pretty good option for those who want a longer lens on a budget but doesn't want to deal with finding an older vintage lens and adapting, which is what I ended up doing when I started a couple years ago.
Adapting lenses was probably annoying once, but nowadays, at least in the canon mirrorless universe i LOVE to adapt DSLR lenses. Probably a bad thing if we just consider canons overpriced EF RF filter adapter, but adding 3rd party EF RF adapters such as the Meike one for 1/4 of canons price makes adapting lenses awesome: - one small filter set for ALL EF lenses. - when using EF lenses only... i can change them as often i want... camera sensor always protected! - many/most filter inserts for in between lens/sensor have the same design/measurements and they fit into this adapter. - 140€! A Canon EF RF adapter costs 100€, for 40€ extra you get a V-ND and sensor protection, why even bother with "regular" adapters at all? - Since i often use faster zoom lenses such as 17-55 2.8, 150-600 6.3 etc, they are by design a bit more heavy and longer, so i cant care less about the added 2 or 2,5cm in length. Exclusively for very small and LIGHT (!!!) primes i am a bit annoyed by adapting since the adapter is bigger in length and/or diameter than the lens itself.
Wow! I would've loved to have this lens starting out. I started learning on vintage lenses and really cheap telephoto - not very sharp at all. Good to learn on and try things out, but the all MF makes it such a bummer for missing the action. These days im spoiling myself a bit using Tamron 100-400. So I am still missing the action, i just have myself to blame now 😅 lmao.
I've used a 300mm telephoto with onyl manual focus, it is manageable. More difficult if you have spectacles. But yes you do miss out on a lot of good shots because of missed focus or simply because you couldn't get anywhere near the focal length of the subject. So definitely flying birds and such like are a challenge with manual focus !
Just pre-ordered this for architecture. It will only be used for very unique cases but at $329 I can afford to pull it out only a few times per year when conditions are just right (a lake home from the other side of the lake). Am I don’t mind long exposures so that’s not an issue at all for me. Homes don’t move :)
I think this lens looks a great purchase, I myself like shooting Motorsport mainly using my sigma 70-200 & 150-600 sport lenses. I am not to bad at manually focusing as I own a few old vintage lenses like the Minolta 50mm f1.7 & some modern Lens Baby lenses. Recently been shooting Motorsport manually aswel as I find it helps to get slower shooter speeds when panning. So from videos IV seen it's a common thing of a stiff ISH focus ring, which helps to make sure you don't knock the focus once you get it correct. Also with professional Motorsport racing, racers are usually millimetre perfect lap after lap, so once your happy your in with your focus you should be fine. I'd love that Sigma 500mm, but as a hobbyist I can't justify spending that much on a lens. This TT artisan is light, compared to my 150-600mm, looks pretty sharp image wise and is a prime, also takes same filter thread size as my 70-200mm so maybe I may consider it in the future.
The specs for the TTArtisan mentions 8 Elements in 5 Groups with a Filter size of 82mm. There is also the Oshiro 500mm have 4 Elements in 4 Groups Filter Size is 86mm 1.55kg Would be great to compare both lenses with birds photo stills 😁 Hopefully they are better then 500mm f8 mirror lenses
i have the Sony 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 and holy shit do i love it. the issue is... its a little too good sometimes. its so easy to point and shoot with that lens that i feel almost too comfortable with it. i frequently put it on manual mode just for fun because it adds a layer of challenge. i just ordered this lens for that exact purpose and im jumping around my room in excitement
Mirror lenses and older 400mm primes are really good and affordable options if you're okay with manual focus. I picked up a $25 Vivitar 400mm in m42 mount, bought a $10 m42-to-eos adapter, and there you go. It's only expensive if you want wider apertures, autofocus, weather protection, etc. Good values are out there. My tripod is the most expensive piece of the whole setup!
Used to be that the cheapest Super Telephoto us regular folks could afford was the Bower 500mm f/8, which is an absolutely appaling lens, even for its super low price. Seeing this, I feel very tempted to purchase one if only as a reminder of how far we've come in less than 20 years.
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They have an image of M42 on the website. Star shapes are fine, but there is some CA. Buy a small refractor instead, it will bé better, both opticaly and mechanicaly.
Hello Olle! I'm a big fan of your work! I wonder if you're committed 100% into photography, or this is your side job? How your history getting into photography looked like? Cheers
I think that this is a nice lens for landscape since most of the subjects are stationary. I may give a go to this one to shoot some mountains here in Portugal.
What about somewhere in between? I have a Canon camera and got a Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 which at 400mm still has f/5.6 available and only gets to 6.3 from 410mm onwards. It also has amazing stabilization and weather resistance.
Something that he did not underscore enough is how light it's. You will not be suffering if you decide to carry it for a walk. On the other hand, for 622 US$ you can get a Tamron SP 150-600 that is far heavier and complex but with moderate weather sealing and AF.
1.6kg is not light in my books at all, I have a sigma 100-400 which is around 1.1kg with 100mm less reach, and that weight adds up fast when your camera body isn't small.
got inspired by you into getting into photography (eventually aiming to become a pro) by wildlife and my camera and lens are arriving by the end of the month...ill just say that if the experience doesnt make me forget the hole those things burned in my budget, I will...NOT BE VERY PLEASED AT ALL!!!
I bought a New lens 4 days ago. The lens should be quite good for my level. (Sigma 150-600mm) I am nearly a complete beginnner, i mean i shot some Photos earlier, but never wildlife. Now I am very interested in wildlife. Often i am struggeling a lot to get sharp Photos. Maybe some Tipps?
congrats on your new lens. It's a great piece of glass! Glad you're into Wildlife recently, good luck with your new lens! :) First thing I can recommed is to use a very fast shutter speed, and expose darken than you think!
Olle is the one to ask 👍 Try to keep the shutter 2x of your focal length. Example: at 600mm you should have a shutter speed for 1/1200. This is to prevent sway, and especially important on telephoto lenses without a built in stabilizer. You will have to add iso to compensate for exposure, but because of AI in LR becoming really good.. noise is no longer an issue.
While the other comments to your question are correctish - Buy and learn to use a Monopod or Tripod. It doesn't matter how still you think you are holding the camera - you aren't. I always carry around a Monopod (I have a Sirui that I am quite happy with) as it collapses and fits in a bag easily. If I know I am going to use my telephotos I try to take my tripod.
You can get the Canon EF 300mm f4 IS L for about $300USD used now. Yes it's 200mm shorter, but paired with an APS-C camera you're back at 480mm equivalent. Then you factor in the better aperture, sharpness, and image stabilization, not to mention autofocus, and I think it's a better deal.
Interesting. I consider myself a novice in this area. My of my professional experience is in door still objects for advertising. In recent years one of family members has begun to really enjoy wild life photos. And it has been fun having some one else to shoot wild life with. But as with many things money is always tight. I'm looking for a myself and them to upgrade with out breaking the bank. This could be a good fit. We currently have 300mm , but I want to get close. Thanks for the video
I would recommend rather going for the 200-600 used, I found some 200-600 used at under 1000. I think getting the zoom will be so much less frustrating to beginners. Tracking, finding subjects as well as auto focus and weather sealing might benefit them much more rather than saving money. I think a manual prime tele could frustrate some to a point that they would not use it at all, and if you don't use it you didn't save money by going for the less expensive version
This looks like a good lens for camera traps In a trap setup you don't neccessarily need autofocus and for this price it's basically a "throwaway" lens compared to other lenses with that focal length, so it wouldn't hurt that much if the lens gets damaged or stolen.
I got a mint condition Tokina SZX 400mm mirror lens for $120. Definitely one of the better(and newer) mirror lenses out there, and a steal at that price. Was my main tele for 2 years until a Tamron 150-600 G2. Makes decent pictures given good light and when you manage to focus perfectly. But it's still a mirror lens, not in the same class as solid glass. At full price though($400), not worth it compared to this TTArtisan.
You can just make your own weather sealing, it you have a lath take the ring of the lens or if brave the cam body, mill in a grove put a o ring in the grove, and what do you know it's weather sealed
I wish we had these options when I started getting into larger focal lengths, the most I had was my canon EF 100-300 F5.6L I used that lens for amost 10 years and I am now thinking about selling it now that I have a sigma 150-600 because its been locked up for almost 3 months.
Ttartisans is an interesting brand.. making many different kinds of photography available to everyone at a budget. They are sharp too! Mainly into landscape and car photography.. but for it's price I might pick this up for the occasional bird!
Not recommended. Try looking for 150-600C Sigmas (or Tamron G2). I bought over a year ago a Sigma 150-600C in perfect condition (nearly unused and absolutely new looking...) for just 550$ 2nd hand with the included bag and hood, on it even a (bad) UV filter i removed (for better sharpness). I was also thinking once about mirror lenses but if you go mirror lenses - go for newtonian telescopes such as 600 or 750mm F4 or F5, combined with full frame cameras (APS-C is going to get tight) you have a super affordable yet great astrophotography setup with superior light gathering capabilities. The thing is.... autofocus is a must have with this type of lens, damn i would even argue stabiliser is a must have as well for anything longer than 200mm. Dont save too much money, otherwise you buy twice or even more lenses before you reach a spot where you can be really "happy" with the gear.
Pretty Interesting. The Image Quality seems to be very good. Especially for that low price. Some (negative) Arguments and my opinions and answers to them. - No Autofokus - Fokus manuell , pretty easy nowadays. Just try and try and try. Until you get it. No eletronic Contacts between Lens & Camera. - OK, no Automatik (Program/EXIF Data Files/Auto Correction by Editing Software) - Well Aperture Value and Manuel still works. Just Practise. The Lens Body si not Waterproof. - So what: Many Cameras are not Waterproof, too. So use a Rain Cover. No bulid in Image Stabilisation - Use a Tripod. I have never seen a Wildlife Photographer doing Pictures only by Free Hand. Any Lans does a good Job. Even if the User knows, how to use it. Which means erxercise , that leads to experience and end into know-how. Thanks for this Video. and. Regards from Germany.
Nonsense.... your "answers". Its super hard to miss the superior stabilisation of lets say my Canon RF 800 F11 when using the Sigma 150-600C with its weak stabiliser, damn even the "slow" autofocus of my 150-600C Sigma is annoying when i use the RF 800 too much. So even a "weak" AF or stabiliser is annoying, not even mentioned manual focus or no stabiliser yet. Once you got used to good stabilisation and do most stuff handheld including gimbal/tripod like video, you will enjoy its freedom and ease of use as well flexibility you got with positioning, changing spots ad hoc. Manual focus is even worse... i mean a pulsing AF made some of my shots unusable, but more shots are wasted when you have to focus manually, no matter how much you practice.
@@harrison00xXx Thank you so much for your so kind and friendly expertise. You must be one of these pros with enormous lifetime practise which we meet in every online photo forum. At any time. All the time. 😄
@@dirkklein-beswick4263 No, im a hobbyist and "budget" user, yet i appreciate useful features thats why i would never buy a manual focus tele lens like that just for the sake of saving some more bucks
To be honest a modern, "good" tele lens is definately worth about 600-1000$ such as the Sigma 150-600 or canon RF 800 F11, and thats the absolute minimum i would recommend at all when going into wildlife photography. In fact if i could pick again - i would replace the RF 800 F11 and Sigma with a single Canon RF 200-800 F9. Since both longer teles i have are just a bit too much "specialised", but bad in different stuff such as the RF 800 too weak in mediocre light or the Sigma 150-600C only usable with tripod for video and has a slower, less precise autofocus. The newly released 200-800 is pretty awesome for "just" 2000$, only bummer is the weight, even worse than my Sigma which has already 2kg.
You should learn to accept other people's opinion and their point of view. Instead of calling it Nonsens. And, please, do not spoil your and other peoples time by giving more to "far from practise" comments. @@harrison00xXx
If you have a 70-200 2.8 is it better to get a 2x teleconverter or to buy this? You "only" reach 400 mm but you keep the AF and the nice features of the lens.
Thanks for this review! I have been watching wildlife photography videos recently since i follow you (thanks for bringing me into this topic. Found a place where i can spend even more money lol) and i was thinking about a longer lens because the longest i have is the 70-200 F4, which is probably ok to start with, but i already know that it will be too short when sitting the bushes. So this video and lens come in just at the right time. I will definately keep an eye on it and as you already said: This is a very good price for such a lens and quality to start with. You got to love the sh*tty gear first to know how well spend the money is on good lenses 😛
Hey @Olle Nilsson, I was just doing my first wildlife session today. Well probably more of a "scouting trip". I was going to the biggest and nearest forest near my home. Just to check the situation. However, the trees were way too high to capture birds at all. So i need to find a place where the trees are not that big. Any advice on how to find a good place to shoot at online? Any help is much appreciated. Maybe the preparation part could also be worth a video? 🙂 Btw looking forward to see more vlogs this winter!
I don't think I would advise a beginner to buy this for wildlife. It's likely to deliver too many soft or out-of-focus shots and quickly lead to disappointment and discouragement. Much better to buy a used Tamron or Sigma for ~ $400.
I agree. They reached out to me to review as well but i declined the offer. I would recommend a used siga150-600 for nearly the same price that's a better lens.
I got an A9 and an 200-600G and Isuck at wildlife. Even if I threw an A1/A9iii and a 600 F4 or 400 F2.8 at it I would still suck. You cant buy skill but you can outgrow the capabilities of your gear and ive got a loooong road ahead of me...
I don't know which is your body used with the len but I use Sony nex 5 r. The pictures are shot not sharpness like , although I adjust almost every thing.
Es ist ja nicht schlecht das jene Art von Objektiv nie ganz aussterben wird. Aber ganz ehrlich, ich bin sehr skeptisch und bleibe es auch bis ich selbst eines getestet habe, ob es soweit kommt? keine Ahnung. In einigen Werbungen sieht das Ding eher aus wie eine größere Taschenlampe mit Griff ! Zeigt her eure Fotos!
Between me never owning a long telephoto that costs several thousand and me potentially owning one for less than half a grand, well well well... interesting! But the weather sealing not being there is a bit concerning. You might think I'm joking but I was walking around one day in February and a bird flew over and dropped a bomb perfectly exactly on my lens!
Thanks for this, I have a Sony a7iv and I must admit I've got used to using the the Continuous AF setting. So, with this manual lens used it with the a7iv does it indicate on the camera display in green that I've found focus? or is a case of mainly eyeballing the focus? Love your videos!
With what JeremyNeipp just said, I would say that this lens makes little sense for wildlife. Inexpirenced shooters benefit from AF and IS the most. Of course you can use softer glass solely for video work in subsampled 4K or for slowmotion that already lack detials, and use it on a tripod. But, the problem is that with 500mm and f/6.3 there are numerous alternatives that give you longer reach at the same apeture, great zoom range, IS and AF and much better IQ at what is still an affordable price. And guess what! You still can use them on a tripod with IS disabled and with manual focus but wih electronic apeture control at automatic modes. Maybe such a video lens with mechanical AF gear to be used in specific video settings makes sense, but amateur wildlife is certainly not one of them. This lens birngs nothing unique on the table except for the price, but there are limited number of corners you can cut until you end up with a perfect circle that can work only as a highly aesthetic dust-collector. If that was 800mm f6.3, heavy and solid but designed to be used on a tripod for filming birds on a perch from your porch, that would be a different story. Or even 800mm f8, that would be somewhat carriable to bring it on location and follow on like from the porch. But this one... meh!
I'd love TTartisans 800m f8 les for my canon R6 m2 I've got Nikkor 200-500 f5.6 Cheap adapter for Nikkor lens to EF mount Will do for me I'll give tha a try first
I’m not sure really, as I mentioned in the video (in text) the Tamron 150-600 with MC11 adapter i pretty cheap used. I wonder if there are any other AF lenses that are cheaper? Please fill in under this thread if someone knows!😃👍
As a MFT user I'm not surprised they don't offer it in a MFT mount. You can get a 600mm equivalent at the same price with auto focus. Still, it does look like a fun lens.
@@cy9nvs True, but I still don't see a MFT user paying that price. You could find a sharp vintage lens for under $100 that is a 1200mm equivalent. Being that it is all manual, I just think there are cheaper options.
i always wondered why companys like Viltrox, Sigma and of course the artisans don't make anything longer than 100mm. There has to be a market for that.
Since I’m used to manual focus.. would you recommend it for motorsport? I shouldn’t need to focus that much should I, so pre-focusing it would be key. Or am I totally wrong and I should aim for something with autofocus? I’m so close to getting a Sigma 150-500 but I’m not sure. 90% of my lenses are prime lenses.
It can work, i heard in the final version the stiffness of the focus ring is better and if you are fine with manual focus, why not. Still i would recommend at least the 150-500, better 150-600(C) Sigma, you can get it 2nd hand for less than 2x the price of the 500 6.3. 150-600C @ 500mm 6.3 is pretty sharp, only at 600mm it gets smoother and F8/F9 is needed for the "best" sharpness. Its 2023... not so sure about manual focus at all anymore. I used to love manual focus (vintage) lenses in 50mm either on FF or APS-C, but the more i use similar lenses but with autofocus, no matter how slow or loud it is such as with my Sigma 50mm 2.8 Macro lens... manual focus is just so.... pre 2000s, especially in things which are better done with autofocus lenses. So.... 150-600C Sigma or a comparable lens in 100-400/180-600/100-500 etc for your system. I use the Sigma 150-600C and a Canon RF 800 F11, but to be honest the Sigmas manual focus ring size, position and throw are bad beside the fact how "stiff" and sticky it is, so you better stick to autofocus on the Sigma Lenses since manual focussing (with precision) sucks. Just good enough to set focus point to help cameras AI tracking finding the subject/eye/head. The Canon RF 800 F11 tho... i can reverse the direction, can set it to linear, its electronic supported manual focus is responsive and precise enough as well the electronic focus ring is smooth (literally TOO smooth, you often refocus during bursts just by holding the lens "wrong"). But the RF 800 F11 autofocus is that fast and precise that i barely use manual focus on this.
I would never buy any Super-Tele-Lens without AF. You can just get still objects, which is kind of boring. Anyway, I got the TTartisan 100 mm F2.8 macro, which is super heavy but quite good.
I dont understand why anyone would prefer this over a used telephoto lens for Tamron, Sigma etc. which you can get for slightly more. It will be sharper, will have AF, and weather sealing and so much more
over £400 in UK amazon so are you quoting pre-tax? still interesting! though they don't seem to have a mount for Nikon APS-c cameras. Still thanks, nice video
It's exciting to see the Chinese budget brands getting to super telephoto primes now. At this price and weight/size this looks like a really good deal to me!
You should look up the "CangYe" 500mm which is like 30$. Basically two pieces of PVC pipe, a camera mount and one telescope element. It is obviously not good but it is really fun, and a little modification like painting the interior black would improve contrast by a lot. They make these really cheap stuff that have intentional artifacts as toys but some are actually interesting.
They sent me the same gear to request a review and the biggest thing for me was the glass quality being way too soft for my standard nowadays when I used it, probably the softest I've ever used. The manual focus was less of a big deal to me then how soft this lens was haha. But, $320 for a super telephoto is a steal for getting started so when you're starting out you're right! On a side note, the aesthetic of it was a refreshing change too lol.
LOL you're a junk photographer anyway. You're last review you exclaimed the g9ii has better AF than an a1. I dislike Sony but you need to get real.
@42reasons2panicsoft = not sharp
@42reasons2panic it generally means that it's not rendering things as sharp as possible. With a 'soft' glass, you'll notice ... softness. Contrast might be low or the lines just don't seem sharp enough, or there is some colour fringing (usually purples coming from high contrast situations). Think about the fact that the lenses are glass elements shaped to bend light to focus the light at the end where your sensor is. Light has many different wavelengths and so you need to bend each visible wavelength at a different time so that they line up to make a sharp image and this is a hard thing to do, which is why good lenses have many glass elements to figure the puzzle out. If you've seen a movie from the 70s or 80s, you can see how lenses back then were softer and things seemed slightly blurry or dream-like. Hope that made sense as I'm sure it can be described better, but yea.
What did you compare it to? I have a vintage zuiko 300mm f4.5 and it is sharper than panasonic 100-300 on mft. Been thinking of getting this while saving for the Olympus 300mm f4, but not sure if it’s worth the reach on mft if it is soft on ff.
@42reasons2panicsoft images on a 330$ 500 6.5 means you could also buy a similar solgor/walimex lens from 1970/80 for 60$
Best timing!
I wanted to get into wildlife photography and did not know which lens to get other than a +2000/3000$ (CAN). Which, for a casual photographer, is EXPENSIVE.
I will look into this lens for sure! Thank you for the video ❤
I got a used Sigma 150-500mm 5.6-6.3 for the same price (300€)at a large camera store. I have never regretted it. Its old but a photographer with a 200-600mm tamron did envy it for its focus speed.
You could also look at one of the cheaper zooms from Lumix and Olympus for the MFT system. I use the Lumix 100-300 myself and have been pleased with the results.
Is this lense good for the eclipse?
@@silverforever15 a solar eclipse is not moving fast, so manual is OK. But you could get a used 1200mm mirror lens for that price to shoot better images of any eclipse or moon event
"Prime look of the photos"
- yes, the bokeh is bril!
Nice review ❤
When I started bird photography with a pentax S1a 35mm film camera except for my short focus lenses all my longer lenses were manual. They were still capable of producing good photos in good light because manual focus and aperture were challenging to deal with in low light. They were all primes since zooms available at the time were photographically useless. During lockdown I reviewed some of my old images and was surprised at the occasional gems. Most of the images were rubbish of course and sometimes had grain like golfballs. I have no nostalgia for that era.
Do you have then uploaded somewhere? I seems rare to find film wildlife photography, at least I don't know how to find, I would love to see a analog RUclipsr doing a video about or someone that is experienced with wildlife photography trying to use a film camera
An used Sigma 150-500 is findable at +- 450-500, and it has AF, stabilization.
I love the idea of an 500mm manual but at f:1:6.3 even with focus peaking it becomes quite hazardous to get a sharp shot.
I have the Tamron SP500 f1:8, great lens when focused correctly but very difficult.
That sounds like a perfect lens when I start needing telephoto video images.
Old film camera were super easy to focus, due to the split prism focusing system.
I think that's easier to use, at least much more accurately, than focus peaking
Yes. Very much so. I nail focus on my vintage lenses on my analog camera, but the same lenses on my digital… I miss a lot of shots due to the focus peaking not focusing correctly. I am an amateur though, I will add that. 😆
@@nitr4mmedia oh me too ❤️👍
I really miss that about my old Canon. Wonder if there are aftermarket replacements.
@@jorymilyou mean split prism focusing screen/emulation on new cameras? Doubt it. But man, that would be awesome..
@@jorymil there are solit prism upgrades available for some DSLR, but, not mirrorless.
Now this looks interesting. Might try it out since I enjoy manual focus anyways. Seems like a great first tele lens
Add some $200 and you can find nice 2nd hand Sigma 50-500/4-6.3 with AF. Or even cheaper lenses like Sig150-500, Sig170-500.
Manual 500/6.3 is toy that should be in $150 price range. And concerning the size, there are also manual mirror lenses like 500/6.3 and 500/8.
Looking at the pics, I think it is not bad. There are locations or activities where you do not want to risk your expensive gear. The lack of weather sealing can be overcome by a cheap raincoat. It is better than not having a tele for the occasion
There are also situations you dont want to mess around and FAIL because you dont have AF or IS...
@@harrison00xXx you will not let it go, would you? lolz...im stuck here in the comments section looking for your rants...lolz
@@pujan9775 rants? Ok…
Its your thing if you think thats just rants.
Just buy this damn lens and enjoy shaky footage as well the missing capability of shooting birds in flight.
Then think of the one guy who rants in those comment sections about the things you desperately miss on your 100% manual lens without stabiliser.
Its not just IS and AF… its a damn prime lens and the metal build makes it unnecessary heavy. No flexibility due to fixed 500mm, just disadvantages compared to any other low budget super telezoom lens which costs 2nd hand about as much as this lens new.
@@harrison00xXx i agree. no wonder they have not advertised using a picture of a bird anywhere. i have already dropped the idea.
@@pujan9775 im pretty sure its not too bad for stationary birds with modern focus peaking, but the fact alone that you dont have any autofocus at all, combined with missing stabiliser makes this lens in my opinion not worth more than 200$, at least i would not pay more for all the missing and bad stuff.
And if i would buy this lens, then it would be with a high chance just a simple and small astrophotography lens on a FF camera as alternative to my 750mm F4 newtonian.
Thanks for the review and really nice shots! Manual focus with fast moving wildlife definitely makes it more challenging. Interesting lens, but glad someone is making a decent telephoto at a reasonable price. Seems like a pretty good option for those who want a longer lens on a budget but doesn't want to deal with finding an older vintage lens and adapting, which is what I ended up doing when I started a couple years ago.
Adapting lenses was probably annoying once, but nowadays, at least in the canon mirrorless universe i LOVE to adapt DSLR lenses.
Probably a bad thing if we just consider canons overpriced EF RF filter adapter, but adding 3rd party EF RF adapters such as the Meike one for 1/4 of canons price makes adapting lenses awesome:
- one small filter set for ALL EF lenses.
- when using EF lenses only... i can change them as often i want... camera sensor always protected!
- many/most filter inserts for in between lens/sensor have the same design/measurements and they fit into this adapter.
- 140€! A Canon EF RF adapter costs 100€, for 40€ extra you get a V-ND and sensor protection, why even bother with "regular" adapters at all?
- Since i often use faster zoom lenses such as 17-55 2.8, 150-600 6.3 etc, they are by design a bit more heavy and longer, so i cant care less about the added 2 or 2,5cm in length.
Exclusively for very small and LIGHT (!!!) primes i am a bit annoyed by adapting since the adapter is bigger in length and/or diameter than the lens itself.
Wow! I would've loved to have this lens starting out. I started learning on vintage lenses and really cheap telephoto - not very sharp at all. Good to learn on and try things out, but the all MF makes it such a bummer for missing the action.
These days im spoiling myself a bit using Tamron 100-400. So I am still missing the action, i just have myself to blame now 😅 lmao.
I've used a 300mm telephoto with onyl manual focus, it is manageable. More difficult if you have spectacles. But yes you do miss out on a lot of good shots because of missed focus or simply because you couldn't get anywhere near the focal length of the subject. So definitely flying birds and such like are a challenge with manual focus !
what about a 200mm one? is that manageable at all?
Just pre-ordered this for architecture. It will only be used for very unique cases but at $329 I can afford to pull it out only a few times per year when conditions are just right (a lake home from the other side of the lake). Am I don’t mind long exposures so that’s not an issue at all for me. Homes don’t move :)
I think this lens looks a great purchase, I myself like shooting Motorsport mainly using my sigma 70-200 & 150-600 sport lenses. I am not to bad at manually focusing as I own a few old vintage lenses like the Minolta 50mm f1.7 & some modern Lens Baby lenses. Recently been shooting Motorsport manually aswel as I find it helps to get slower shooter speeds when panning. So from videos IV seen it's a common thing of a stiff ISH focus ring, which helps to make sure you don't knock the focus once you get it correct. Also with professional Motorsport racing, racers are usually millimetre perfect lap after lap, so once your happy your in with your focus you should be fine. I'd love that Sigma 500mm, but as a hobbyist I can't justify spending that much on a lens. This TT artisan is light, compared to my 150-600mm, looks pretty sharp image wise and is a prime, also takes same filter thread size as my 70-200mm so maybe I may consider it in the future.
The specs for the TTArtisan mentions 8 Elements in 5 Groups with a Filter size of 82mm. There is also the Oshiro 500mm have 4 Elements in 4 Groups Filter Size is 86mm 1.55kg
Would be great to compare both lenses with birds photo stills 😁 Hopefully they are better then 500mm f8 mirror lenses
i have the Sony 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 and holy shit do i love it. the issue is... its a little too good sometimes. its so easy to point and shoot with that lens that i feel almost too comfortable with it. i frequently put it on manual mode just for fun because it adds a layer of challenge. i just ordered this lens for that exact purpose and im jumping around my room in excitement
Mirror lenses and older 400mm primes are really good and affordable options if you're okay with manual focus. I picked up a $25 Vivitar 400mm in m42 mount, bought a $10 m42-to-eos adapter, and there you go. It's only expensive if you want wider apertures, autofocus, weather protection, etc. Good values are out there. My tripod is the most expensive piece of the whole setup!
Used to be that the cheapest Super Telephoto us regular folks could afford was the Bower 500mm f/8, which is an absolutely appaling lens, even for its super low price. Seeing this, I feel very tempted to purchase one if only as a reminder of how far we've come in less than 20 years.
Interesting lens and good review. I don't know how you tolerated the mosquitos the whole time!
Thx for making my day
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What you’re saying about the trolls is 100% correct. Sadly, reading shitty comments does, whether one likes it or not, get to you. I’d say I hope you could employ what you’re saying and tell people to chill, ignore it in your mind, and focus on those who actually care. Shitty comments could just be seen as bots replying; ignore them and just read and digest and reply to the critique and positive comments!
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Thank you so much for taking your time to say this. It truly means a lot.
Much love, I'm glad you're here!
Probably could test this for astro photography. Curious to see the performance for that.
They have an image of M42 on the website. Star shapes are fine, but there is some CA.
Buy a small refractor instead, it will bé better, both opticaly and mechanicaly.
Hello Olle! I'm a big fan of your work! I wonder if you're committed 100% into photography, or this is your side job? How your history getting into photography looked like? Cheers
I think that this is a nice lens for landscape since most of the subjects are stationary. I may give a go to this one to shoot some mountains here in Portugal.
What about somewhere in between? I have a Canon camera and got a Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 which at 400mm still has f/5.6 available and only gets to 6.3 from 410mm onwards.
It also has amazing stabilization and weather resistance.
Finally a good reason to watch youtube! Thanks man!
I'd recommend instead to borrow the 200-600 for a weekend and head out to a nice spot with plenty of birds. A park will do the job.
Something that he did not underscore enough is how light it's. You will not be suffering if you decide to carry it for a walk. On the other hand, for 622 US$ you can get a Tamron SP 150-600 that is far heavier and complex but with moderate weather sealing and AF.
1.6kg is not light in my books at all, I have a sigma 100-400 which is around 1.1kg with 100mm less reach, and that weight adds up fast when your camera body isn't small.
The Tamron is by no means far heavier though.
got inspired by you into getting into photography (eventually aiming to become a pro) by wildlife and my camera and lens are arriving by the end of the month...ill just say that if the experience doesnt make me forget the hole those things burned in my budget, I will...NOT BE VERY PLEASED AT ALL!!!
I bought a New lens 4 days ago. The lens should be quite good for my level. (Sigma 150-600mm) I am nearly a complete beginnner, i mean i shot some Photos earlier, but never wildlife. Now I am very interested in wildlife. Often i am struggeling a lot to get sharp Photos. Maybe some Tipps?
congrats on your new lens. It's a great piece of glass!
Glad you're into Wildlife recently, good luck with your new lens! :)
First thing I can recommed is to use a very fast shutter speed, and expose darken than you think!
Olle is the one to ask 👍
Try to keep the shutter 2x of your focal length. Example: at 600mm you should have a shutter speed for 1/1200.
This is to prevent sway, and especially important on telephoto lenses without a built in stabilizer.
You will have to add iso to compensate for exposure, but because of AI in LR becoming really good.. noise is no longer an issue.
While the other comments to your question are correctish - Buy and learn to use a Monopod or Tripod. It doesn't matter how still you think you are holding the camera - you aren't. I always carry around a Monopod (I have a Sirui that I am quite happy with) as it collapses and fits in a bag easily. If I know I am going to use my telephotos I try to take my tripod.
You can get the Canon EF 300mm f4 IS L for about $300USD used now.
Yes it's 200mm shorter, but paired with an APS-C camera you're back at 480mm equivalent.
Then you factor in the better aperture, sharpness, and image stabilization, not to mention autofocus, and I think it's a better deal.
first time that i catch one of your videos in the same day of upload
Very worth it for wide filed/deep sky astrophotography
Ha,i used to have similar one but sold it,i need AF for my projects (im recording videos as well) happy new year🎉😊
Interesting. I consider myself a novice in this area. My of my professional experience is in door still objects for advertising. In recent years one of family members has begun to really enjoy wild life photos. And it has been fun having some one else to shoot wild life with. But as with many things money is always tight. I'm looking for a myself and them to upgrade with out breaking the bank. This could be a good fit. We currently have 300mm , but I want to get close. Thanks for the video
I would recommend rather going for the 200-600 used, I found some 200-600 used at under 1000. I think getting the zoom will be so much less frustrating to beginners. Tracking, finding subjects as well as auto focus and weather sealing might benefit them much more rather than saving money. I think a manual prime tele could frustrate some to a point that they would not use it at all, and if you don't use it you didn't save money by going for the less expensive version
Nice vid !
Thanks !!
Would have loved to see more closed aperture pictures, but It's ok. :)
Thanks for the review, and you please tell me the name of the camera cover name that you used in the video.
Great video man! Really interesting lens 😀
This looks like a good lens for camera traps
In a trap setup you don't neccessarily need autofocus and for this price it's basically a "throwaway" lens compared to other lenses with that focal length, so it wouldn't hurt that much if the lens gets damaged or stolen.
Pls do u know what kind of Sony he's using for the video?
I'm planning to buy this lens for my Sony A6000 next year, is it worth it when paired with the A6000 or should I get something else?
Is it worth buy this, or the Canon RF 600mm f/11 IS STM?
I got a mint condition Tokina SZX 400mm mirror lens for $120. Definitely one of the better(and newer) mirror lenses out there, and a steal at that price. Was my main tele for 2 years until a Tamron 150-600 G2. Makes decent pictures given good light and when you manage to focus perfectly. But it's still a mirror lens, not in the same class as solid glass. At full price though($400), not worth it compared to this TTArtisan.
You can just make your own weather sealing, it you have a lath take the ring of the lens or if brave the cam body, mill in a grove put a o ring in the grove, and what do you know it's weather sealed
I wish we had these options when I started getting into larger focal lengths, the most I had was my canon EF 100-300 F5.6L I used that lens for amost 10 years and I am now thinking about selling it now that I have a sigma 150-600 because its been locked up for almost 3 months.
Ttartisans is an interesting brand.. making many different kinds of photography available to everyone at a budget. They are sharp too!
Mainly into landscape and car photography.. but for it's price I might pick this up for the occasional bird!
OK, i found my next purchase.
That beat the old mirror lens i was planning to buy.
Not recommended. Try looking for 150-600C Sigmas (or Tamron G2). I bought over a year ago a Sigma 150-600C in perfect condition (nearly unused and absolutely new looking...) for just 550$ 2nd hand with the included bag and hood, on it even a (bad) UV filter i removed (for better sharpness).
I was also thinking once about mirror lenses but if you go mirror lenses - go for newtonian telescopes such as 600 or 750mm F4 or F5, combined with full frame cameras (APS-C is going to get tight) you have a super affordable yet great astrophotography setup with superior light gathering capabilities.
The thing is.... autofocus is a must have with this type of lens, damn i would even argue stabiliser is a must have as well for anything longer than 200mm. Dont save too much money, otherwise you buy twice or even more lenses before you reach a spot where you can be really "happy" with the gear.
for some reason i prefer the ttartisan's images to the more expensive competitor
Pretty Interesting.
The Image Quality seems to be very good.
Especially for that low price.
Some (negative) Arguments and my opinions and answers to them.
- No Autofokus - Fokus manuell , pretty easy nowadays. Just try and try and try. Until you get it.
No eletronic Contacts between Lens & Camera. - OK, no Automatik (Program/EXIF Data Files/Auto Correction by Editing Software) - Well Aperture Value and Manuel still works. Just Practise.
The Lens Body si not Waterproof. - So what: Many Cameras are not Waterproof, too. So use a Rain Cover.
No bulid in Image Stabilisation - Use a Tripod. I have never seen a Wildlife Photographer doing Pictures only by Free Hand.
Any Lans does a good Job. Even if the User knows, how to use it.
Which means erxercise , that leads to experience and end into know-how.
Thanks for this Video.
and.
Regards from Germany.
Nonsense.... your "answers".
Its super hard to miss the superior stabilisation of lets say my Canon RF 800 F11 when using the Sigma 150-600C with its weak stabiliser, damn even the "slow" autofocus of my 150-600C Sigma is annoying when i use the RF 800 too much. So even a "weak" AF or stabiliser is annoying, not even mentioned manual focus or no stabiliser yet.
Once you got used to good stabilisation and do most stuff handheld including gimbal/tripod like video, you will enjoy its freedom and ease of use as well flexibility you got with positioning, changing spots ad hoc. Manual focus is even worse... i mean a pulsing AF made some of my shots unusable, but more shots are wasted when you have to focus manually, no matter how much you practice.
@@harrison00xXx Thank you so much for your so kind and friendly expertise. You must be one of these pros with enormous lifetime practise which we meet in every online photo forum. At any time. All the time. 😄
@@dirkklein-beswick4263 No, im a hobbyist and "budget" user, yet i appreciate useful features thats why i would never buy a manual focus tele lens like that just for the sake of saving some more bucks
To be honest a modern, "good" tele lens is definately worth about 600-1000$ such as the Sigma 150-600 or canon RF 800 F11, and thats the absolute minimum i would recommend at all when going into wildlife photography.
In fact if i could pick again - i would replace the RF 800 F11 and Sigma with a single Canon RF 200-800 F9. Since both longer teles i have are just a bit too much "specialised", but bad in different stuff such as the RF 800 too weak in mediocre light or the Sigma 150-600C only usable with tripod for video and has a slower, less precise autofocus.
The newly released 200-800 is pretty awesome for "just" 2000$, only bummer is the weight, even worse than my Sigma which has already 2kg.
You should learn to accept other people's opinion and their point of view. Instead of calling it Nonsens. And, please, do not spoil your and other peoples time by giving more to "far from practise" comments. @@harrison00xXx
Skulle vara väldigt roligt att se mer behind the scenes 😊👍
If you have a 70-200 2.8 is it better to get a 2x teleconverter or to buy this? You "only" reach 400 mm but you keep the AF and the nice features of the lens.
Nice shot of the cat "bird"!
Great video!
is there a way to make whatever they add to lenses that makes it waterproof? Then attach it to the back of the lens?
I like your reviewS. mall correction to the intro. Justifying expensive lenses is even harder for professionals since we have to make money:-)
For that price and that distance
Thats a bargain
Thx for sharing. Now that pick my curiosty
Wonder how it would work with APSC camera
POST MORE VIDEOSSS I'M WAITINGGGGG
Would a follow focus set-up give you something similar to the effects of autofocus on this lens?
Thanks for this review! I have been watching wildlife photography videos recently since i follow you (thanks for bringing me into this topic. Found a place where i can spend even more money lol) and i was thinking about a longer lens because the longest i have is the 70-200 F4, which is probably ok to start with, but i already know that it will be too short when sitting the bushes.
So this video and lens come in just at the right time. I will definately keep an eye on it and as you already said: This is a very good price for such a lens and quality to start with.
You got to love the sh*tty gear first to know how well spend the money is on good lenses 😛
Hey @Olle Nilsson, I was just doing my first wildlife session today. Well probably more of a "scouting trip". I was going to the biggest and nearest forest near my home. Just to check the situation. However, the trees were way too high to capture birds at all. So i need to find a place where the trees are not that big. Any advice on how to find a good place to shoot at online? Any help is much appreciated. Maybe the preparation part could also be worth a video? 🙂 Btw looking forward to see more vlogs this winter!
I don't think I would advise a beginner to buy this for wildlife. It's likely to deliver too many soft or out-of-focus shots and quickly lead to disappointment and discouragement. Much better to buy a used Tamron or Sigma for ~ $400.
I agree. They reached out to me to review as well but i declined the offer. I would recommend a used siga150-600 for nearly the same price that's a better lens.
I would not recommend this junk to anybody, not just beginners...
I got an A9 and an 200-600G and Isuck at wildlife. Even if I threw an A1/A9iii and a 600 F4 or 400 F2.8 at it I would still suck. You cant buy skill but you can outgrow the capabilities of your gear and ive got a loooong road ahead of me...
I don't know which is your body used with the len but I use Sony nex 5 r. The pictures are shot not sharpness like , although I adjust almost every thing.
15 pro max photoshoot!! when???
Es ist ja nicht schlecht das jene Art von Objektiv nie ganz aussterben wird. Aber ganz ehrlich, ich bin sehr skeptisch und bleibe es auch bis ich selbst eines getestet habe, ob es soweit kommt? keine Ahnung. In einigen Werbungen sieht das Ding eher aus wie eine größere Taschenlampe mit Griff ! Zeigt her eure Fotos!
Is this lens suitable for sony zve10 ?
TTArtisan didn't make this one available for Fuji, such a boomer. Great video!
they got it now but im still contemplating whether to buy or not
Looks fun! But if I want a manual focus lens I'd rather buy a vintage one! :)
where do you sell your photos
Hello I really enjoy ur video ....n I'll be glad if u show as how to colour gray video n picture
Off-topic question, but let me ask you, what type/brand of mobile chair is the one in the video? Maybe you could send me a link?
Thanks!!!
Can it be used on a Sony A6400 camera?
I hope you answer sir
Interesting lens for cheap money But wondering more where you bought the little camo "tent" ?
Tragopan’s 3D Camp net!😊
@@ollenilssonen tack dom hade ju en hel del kul grejer 😄
Love your video❤
Between me never owning a long telephoto that costs several thousand and me potentially owning one for less than half a grand, well well well... interesting! But the weather sealing not being there is a bit concerning. You might think I'm joking but I was walking around one day in February and a bird flew over and dropped a bomb perfectly exactly on my lens!
Thanks for this, I have a Sony a7iv and I must admit I've got used to using the the Continuous AF setting. So, with this manual lens used it with the a7iv does it indicate on the camera display in green that I've found focus? or is a case of mainly eyeballing the focus?
Love your videos!
There is a mode when you turn on, it will draw lines over the part in the frame that is focused on.
Hey thanks!
A 500mm lens with an 80mm aperture is still pretty good, to be honest, as long as it's reasonably sharp and low on CA
Very good video
Could this lens be paired with a canon 7D?
I want to see this for Astrophotography
Nice Milwaukee Bucks logo hat lol
Is this lens compatible with any teleconverters?
How about the Lumix DC-FZ82? It has 60x optical zoom and it's for 400 bucks but on sale for 300, was my first camera and takes some awesome pics!
With what JeremyNeipp just said, I would say that this lens makes little sense for wildlife. Inexpirenced shooters benefit from AF and IS the most. Of course you can use softer glass solely for video work in subsampled 4K or for slowmotion that already lack detials, and use it on a tripod. But, the problem is that with 500mm and f/6.3 there are numerous alternatives that give you longer reach at the same apeture, great zoom range, IS and AF and much better IQ at what is still an affordable price. And guess what! You still can use them on a tripod with IS disabled and with manual focus but wih electronic apeture control at automatic modes. Maybe such a video lens with mechanical AF gear to be used in specific video settings makes sense, but amateur wildlife is certainly not one of them. This lens birngs nothing unique on the table except for the price, but there are limited number of corners you can cut until you end up with a perfect circle that can work only as a highly aesthetic dust-collector. If that was 800mm f6.3, heavy and solid but designed to be used on a tripod for filming birds on a perch from your porch, that would be a different story. Or even 800mm f8, that would be somewhat carriable to bring it on location and follow on like from the porch. But this one... meh!
Thanks for the only honest and practical seen perspective i have seen so far here.
Too many dont realise this is a paid review.
I'd love TTartisans 800m f8 les for my canon R6 m2
I've got Nikkor 200-500 f5.6
Cheap adapter for Nikkor lens to EF mount Will do for me
I'll give tha a try first
Now I'm wodnering whats the cheapest Tele Lens WITH AF is xD whats the difference in price is o: over 600 ? over 1000 ? Idk
I’m not sure really, as I mentioned in the video (in text) the Tamron 150-600 with MC11 adapter i pretty cheap used.
I wonder if there are any other AF lenses that are cheaper?
Please fill in under this thread if someone knows!😃👍
How about using Apsc sensor?can i get same result with lesser focal length?
500mm prime lens, how do we move close or backwards to capture the subject in wildlife? Ideally it has to be a zoom lens right? Please clarify
how long is the lens ? thanks
As a MFT user I'm not surprised they don't offer it in a MFT mount. You can get a 600mm equivalent at the same price with auto focus. Still, it does look like a fun lens.
Doesn't really make sense.
600mm equivalent just isn't 600mm, if you go by that, this is 1200mm.
@@cy9nvs True, but I still don't see a MFT user paying that price. You could find a sharp vintage lens for under $100 that is a 1200mm equivalent. Being that it is all manual, I just think there are cheaper options.
@@foto-spective For wildlife, I don't see this either. Maybe something like astrophotography on a budget. AF is a must for wildlife.
It is already soft on a full frame body, on an mft (4 times more demanding), it wouldn't be usable.
If they make a Fujifilm version, I’ll buy it!
They got it bro.
Curious if you’ve ever tried Vintage mirror reflex lens like the Nikon 500 C?
i always wondered why companys like Viltrox, Sigma and of course the artisans don't make anything longer than 100mm. There has to be a market for that.
Sigma definitely does make lens longer than 100mm, quite a few tbh.
@@riley56566 Maybe i should have specified that i meant prime lenses. The longest Sigma makes is 135mm for mirrorless. They have one 500mm for DSLR
Since I’m used to manual focus.. would you recommend it for motorsport? I shouldn’t need to focus that much should I, so pre-focusing it would be key. Or am I totally wrong and I should aim for something with autofocus? I’m so close to getting a Sigma 150-500 but I’m not sure. 90% of my lenses are prime lenses.
It can work, i heard in the final version the stiffness of the focus ring is better and if you are fine with manual focus, why not. Still i would recommend at least the 150-500, better 150-600(C) Sigma, you can get it 2nd hand for less than 2x the price of the 500 6.3. 150-600C @ 500mm 6.3 is pretty sharp, only at 600mm it gets smoother and F8/F9 is needed for the "best" sharpness. Its 2023... not so sure about manual focus at all anymore. I used to love manual focus (vintage) lenses in 50mm either on FF or APS-C, but the more i use similar lenses but with autofocus, no matter how slow or loud it is such as with my Sigma 50mm 2.8 Macro lens... manual focus is just so.... pre 2000s, especially in things which are better done with autofocus lenses.
So.... 150-600C Sigma or a comparable lens in 100-400/180-600/100-500 etc for your system.
I use the Sigma 150-600C and a Canon RF 800 F11, but to be honest the Sigmas manual focus ring size, position and throw are bad beside the fact how "stiff" and sticky it is, so you better stick to autofocus on the Sigma Lenses since manual focussing (with precision) sucks. Just good enough to set focus point to help cameras AI tracking finding the subject/eye/head.
The Canon RF 800 F11 tho... i can reverse the direction, can set it to linear, its electronic supported manual focus is responsive and precise enough as well the electronic focus ring is smooth (literally TOO smooth, you often refocus during bursts just by holding the lens "wrong"). But the RF 800 F11 autofocus is that fast and precise that i barely use manual focus on this.
I would never buy any Super-Tele-Lens without AF. You can just get still objects, which is kind of boring. Anyway, I got the TTartisan 100 mm F2.8 macro, which is super heavy but quite good.
I dont understand why anyone would prefer this over a used telephoto lens for Tamron, Sigma etc. which you can get for slightly more. It will be sharper, will have AF, and weather sealing and so much more
Exactly I'm seeing more and more sub 400 priced tele lens that will give way better picture quality than this.
over £400 in UK amazon so are you quoting pre-tax? still interesting! though they don't seem to have a mount for Nikon APS-c cameras. Still thanks, nice video
Yeah, it's always the pretax price. Don't know why they do it, it's not like you don't have to pay them.
Where can I buy?
Please what kind of camera are you using?
Sony A7IV
Wow thanks so much please can you recommend a good camera for me to buy because I buying soon thanks 🙏
That is insane