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The Mind Electric BEGINNING AND END COMPARISON - Played Simultaneously LR with text description
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2020
- Analyzed and video edited by Connor Maitland
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I love this song off of the album Hawaii Part ii by Miracle Musical and I really wanted to create a visual experience that went along with The Mind Electric, as well as include visual features that explain small details going on in the song that i noticed.
On top of that I also noticed that the first 2:50 of the song is NOT identical to the "forward" section of the song, and that it has many differences. This video explains the differences that I could notice!
OH MY GOD, ive been wondering for SO LONG why there are two versions of this song. i was aware that there was a "tame" and "chaotic" version, and that the song was reversed, but i had no idea that the tame version WAS the reversed part
In the lyric video flashing is the reversed part
If you listen to the album, the song starts off reversed and then switches to back to normal. The whole song is around 6 minutes long and has the "flashing" version
Oh I figured out the revered part is more tame after literally reversing it out of curiosity
@@Portrait-lp3hs thats what they just said
I had only noticed that the reversed section didn't contain the break in the middle
“Joe, Are you SURE that you didn’t record us talking while recording the tame version again, Right?”
“yeah of course I didn’t”
Why no replies?
It's actually reversed clips of radio shows
@@Thestuffdoer ik I was just joking abt it
@@mikedoesthings2134 I know lol, just thought I'd spread awareness
@@Thestuffdoerbooooooo
I honestly prefer the metal clanking music
And fun fact: in the second corrupted part where the piano/opera plays, its actually a mozart song backwards!
Oh that’s fantastic! I had no idea about the Mozart
@@UnlockedFilms7 Its in one of the demos, i couldnt recognize it until i listened to the distorted ver backwards!
And the piano is the slow part of Murders, if you didn't already know.
Which one?
@@lopenash 1:21
I honestly prefer the flashing version, i feel like all the glitches and stuff adds so much personality to the song
idk I find it creepy in some way
I feel like it also adds on to the character going crazy in the song
Something I just noticed; the glitch at 1:21 is actually a slowed down part of the piano in Murders right before "all for nothing at all"
yeeeesss
My only question is what the other excerpts are, but I'm sure I can find those on like
Genius lyrics or smth
@@beanbrain6162 you can find those on Hawaii part II part ii
2:51 instrumentals sound like labyrinth
wow really did you notice that yourself
@@mihailos490 yea
If we believe the theory that this song is about the execution of the main character, I feel like the "tame" version represents the court session (given the people chattering and chanting) and the "flashing" version represents the electrocution itself, which explains the numerous "glitches" and electric spark sound effects. It also may represent the way the main character perceives the court session, the glitches symbolizing the distorted reality inside his mind.
I really like the interpretation as tame=court and flashing=victim!! The crowd talking in the tame version would make perfect sense then, and the electric chair/insanity is what distorts the flashing version. This is the only way I’ll hear the song now. 👍
I thought it was"" just "" about electric shock therapy. You know with the: " condem him to the infermary" and the " I'm a good boy albeit ïň§ªņə" and the " electric calming if you look at it right" and T H E M I N D E L E C T R I C
@@Machialemmi lmao exactly my thoughts as then the following songs are about him coming to terms with the reality of what he's done, then spiralling again because he understands bUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY
where are the electric spark sounds?? Im just curious, I cant hear them
@@WatermelonWhatThe not really sparks. It's the DUNDUNDUNDUN that sounds kinda fuzzy, which to me sounds like the musical representation of electrical pulses.
This is a much more coherent and cohesive The Mind Electric comparison tbh
Thank you very much!
Oh wow I didn't realize how different the two versions were until now (and I listened to both a lot so that's saying something lmao) thanks for this video man!
No problem! I’m happy you’ve enjoyed it!
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This is for me to compare the individual sections easily:
0:00 (Intro) Think of these thoughts
0:16 (Court 1) Resident minor
0:32 (Court 2) Father, your honor
0:53 (Electric 1) All mine towers
1:05 (Calm 1) Scattering sparks
1:40 (Electric 2) Nuns commence incanting
2:00 (Calm 2) Spiraling down
2:11 (Climax 1) See how the surfs
2:34 (Climax 2) See how the brain
3:07 (Outro) When it grows bright
I think electric one is suppost to show his shock of being sentenced to shock therapy
at 0:46 you can hear the tame one building to the chorus while the flashing version just repeats the same notes
@@idiotenmitfeuerzeug921 yeah
Its “serfs” not “surfs”
something that i just want to point out since i didn't see it mentioned in the video--at 1:52 the "flashing" version's drums actually are reversed and begin to desync with that section. meanwhile the "tame" one is forwards and stays on beat
It’s such an elaborate song with so many intricate details like that. There’s lots of stuff that I didn’t pick up. Good ear!
should also add that the tame version has a "not you, huh?" after the "Doctor, I can't tell if I'm not me!"
More differences and details:
0:03 - the flashing version has more harsh bass notes played every few notes whereas the tame version has the same volume bass throughout the entire first section
0:15 - Flashing: more distortion and repeat on the last syllable of "decimal"
0:15 - Tame version does indeed have more distortion on those two guitar notes but the flashing version has choppier, more obviously cut notes. this is the same effect for 0:28, 0:45, 1:18 (coming back to this, the flashing version might actually be a piano, which would be consistent with other guitar/piano switches throughout the rest of the songs)
0:32 - flashing: "explain" is distorted, "me" is repeated, albeit has a repeated "e", and "insane" is entirely reversed to sound like "enasni". also during this section, the piano is reversed at some notes
0:41 - flashing: extremely faint and really only noticeable in the instrumental, but the "service, service, service" is said very quietly behind "Condemn him to the infirmary"
0:45 - flashing: "Service, service, service, service, EEE"
0:45 - the guitar leading up to the next section contains different notes in the tame version. (Tame: G G G G G A A# B) (Flashing: G G G G G G G G...) same for 1:18
0:50 - flashing: the screaming found in the demos is found here
0:54 - it's very hard to hear here but thanks to Verosment's and naturalkatsup's Hawaii: Part II vocal isolation videos, we can see that "crumble" is distorted in the flashing but not in the tame
1:05 - flashing: "trouble" is distorted and repeated
1:06 - It may just be my headphones, but I feel like the pizzicato/harp in the background is louder and has a little bit more reverb in the flashing version than in the tame version
1:22 - flashing: Murders piano, mozart opera chant, sunkist hawaii samples,
1:48 - the laughing that takes place in the flashing section's vocal cut is at 2:00 in the tame version
2:14 - flashing: a reverse piano note begins to play, building up to the bridge
2:17 - flashing: during this entire section is metal clanking along with the drums. This can't be heard in this video because the clanking only happens in the left ear, and the left ear is occupied in this video. In the original flashing song it is prominent
2:17 - flashing: during this entire section, the "more electronic/added chiptune parts" are all in Hawaii: Part II Part II under Reampflication Edits, Simon Synth, and Teslacoil Synth
3:00 - Tame: "not you, huh?"
3:04 - tame: the "EEE" at the beginning of the flashing version is put here in the tame version
3:06 - for the tame version, the choir and joe are singing at the same volume. for the flashing version, joe is singing louder
The very end has about 4.5 seconds of silence in the flashing version (the ending is instant in the tame version because it starts instantly in the standard version of the song where it is reversed)
this should be pinned so it’s easier to see and people can add on
I noticed around 2:59 that the flashing version plays a small part of the song Labyrinth (specifically the chiptune's melody)
@@moosetail that whole part of the song does
Also at the very start the “I” is cut off in the flashing version
You did forget that only the piano plays in the flashing version at 0:53 and 1:40 where in the 1:40 part, the guitar briefly appears glitched.
Can I just say…
I feel like this is the true way the song was supposed to be heard. It is differentiating the perspectives of the protagonist compared to an outside viewer, such as, the judge and jury in a courtroom implied by the song.
Cutting and glueing the pieces together for the listener to better comprehend what all is going down throughout the song gives you an omniscient point of view to experience how everyone is perceiving the event.
In other words, the editing of the song(s) helps explain to you how everyone feels and what they would see.
One other thing to wrap this up, I really like how both versions go hand-in-hand when they are overlapping; I could’ve gone my whole life without ever knowing the cymbals answer each other like a question and answer.
This is shown around 0:50 and I am still in awe of that effect.
And to that, I am really appreciative of the creator putting this video together to showcase the amazing details that went into this song.
(To the creator)
You are amazing!
Thank you! It makes me happy that you’ve enjoyed this so much to leave a long and thoughtful comment. It really expanded my experience of the song as well putting this video together. I agree, there’s so many interesting and moving details about this piece, especially since it’s nearly duplicated in reverse. Thank you again for enjoying this little project of mine!
There's also The Mind Electric Ultimate Mashup by the channel allytall that his both versions at once as well as other things that weren't in the final song
I was panicking earlier because I was used to the tame version and had heard the hectic version, very thankful I found this
Im in the reverse situation, i felt confused abd disoriented at the lack of.. chaos
probably the best song in the album with how many little details and references it has
that unfortunately had the negative side effect of making it the one song everyone gravitates towards when interpreting the album, disregarding a lot of the nuance of the other songs as "it's just the main character talking crazy because his brain got fried, don't look to deep into it"
Something i realized is that the reason the clean version is reversed is probably before the actual electrocution (explaining the background voices in clean),when distorted starts it could imply that the first electric shock started and the 'glitch' parts in it are the electricity getting worse,bending his mind and distorting simon into an unrecognizable person,the 'doctor i cant tell if im not me' line shows that he cant even tell if he really is himself anymore.
bout to fire up audacity and make my own version of this. both of them together is the only way i want to hear this song now
I came here looking for you to approve a speedrun, but I've ended up spending my day listening to Miracle Musical. Thanks very much :)
You’re welcome very much!! Happy Halloween!!
I’ll get to verifying your speed run as soon as I can! Thank you for reaching out
@@UnlockedFilms7 Thanks man, happy halloween!
The tame version sounds like the mind recalling what happened before electroshock therapy while the flashing is the same mind trying to recall it afterwards, with their memories and thoughts mashing together making the song incoherent in some places.
the first time i listed to the flashing version, i got scared because before that i mostly listened to the tamed version, the "so so so" looping part was the part that scared me the most
did anybody else notice/hear “we are safe” in the first glitchy part the tame version doesn’t have?
Yes but I hadn't been able to make out what it said until I saw this, thank you!
There's also a little boy at one part of the song somewhere talking to man, but the only part I really heard through the music was "Why not?" from the boy. Also at the end right before "someone help me" there's an older man talking in the left ear that might mention 'Apollo'?
@@abaddonarts1129 "Yes a fluke! And then they sailed off and dropped me on the beaches of Timbuktu!" "They couldn't sail off and drop you on the beaches of Timbuktu." "Why not?" "Because Timbuktu is located in the middle of the Sahara Desert." "Oh." "Yes 'oh', and tie an anchor on that imagination of yours."
@@zanyeweast9366 what time?
@@zanyeweast9366 and what version?
If the actual song had just been like this I would love it SO MUCH more. Making it like this still gives that hectic and desperate feel because you can still hear the difference between ears, plus if you made the parts in the Flashing Version that aren't in the Tame Version be both ears so it wasn't overwhelming one ear that would be really cool! Doing some editing to the full product and bam, I would listen to this a lot more.
I love the actual song but the 3 minutes of backwards audio can get annoying after awhile.
if you get rid of the segments which only play in the forward one, it would be a perfect!
The point of the song is to be overwhelming and chaotic. Putting them both in the same section, especially in both ears at the same time, removes that aspect.
this is literally my favorite song in the album just because of how complex it is
1:20 those "light piano notes" are from the end of Murders
i want this to be the end credits of the world, with everyone understanding what the song is about
I love how well synced the 2 versions are in this video
not only does this fucking slap, it also helped me figure out I've been using my earphones wrong this whole time LMFAOOO thanks man
Cheers!!! I’m so glad you like it and I’m happy this helped with your headphones haha! :)
2:35 Just noticed there’s whistling in the background that sounds like Labyrinth. Other people have probably noticed it before but I just did and it sounds cool. I love those little details that go over your head and then you finally notice it
I like the chaotic parts of the flashing version, but also everything going on in the background in the tame version. Honestly I can only enjoy the song fully when it's like this
Also this just scratches my brain in all the right places for some reason
@@s0urkandies67 same here! Seeing the visual representation of what’s happening in the audio makes the experience that much greater for me. I’m flattered that you enjoyed this so much :)
This is definitely one of the times I wish I could hear out of both ears I can only hear the flashing version with headphones on. 😅 Oh well still really cool to even hear without headphones such an awesome video! 😊
wow they put a lot of work in to this song
is this why it took so long to come out?
also this song is what got me more in to tally hall
I love how the Flashing version keeps the word "insane" in reverse, symbolizing just how damaged the character's psyche is at this point.
my right ear feels a little lonley at parts AND IT WIGS MY BRAIN OUT
This hits different at 3 am
Why am I addicted listening to dis-
Cuz its a good song
Me too!!!
It’s kinda weird that nobody’s pointed this out yet, Perhaps the glitches in the flashing version are a result of Simon (the guy who sings this in story probably because of a demo name for this song) repressing memories? Or perhaps loosing them? With his testimony in the court being severely tampered with in the flashing version, To the point where the word “insane” is reversed, And all of the fast segments having glitches right before them, Those being where he’s electrocuted (I believe the story of this song is simon getting convicted for a crime he didn’t commit, falsely pleading insanity for less harsh sentencing, Getting the exact opposite and being put through electro shock therapy, which makes him go actually insane.) Which would all be reasonable things to repress.
That is a neat theory and I think its definitely a valid way of looking at the standalone song, but I think when you look at the full album it starts to poke holes in the “not guilty” part
Your underated bruh
Thank you! I appreciate it! Just doing what I do.
thanks to this I realized that I had the headphones backwards
Just gonna add this comment:
The reason for the two versions is one is a recollection, one is while it's happening. The reversed (tame) version is what's happening AS it's happening. That's why there's chatter, dude's in a mental asylum (condemn him to the infirmary) sent there by his father (No it's not an actual judge, what judge calls the defendent "resident minor"? That's his son) The background talking is to give us an idea of what's really going on. There's very specific audio chosen that's meant to reflect things like old time basic cable (TV Land reruns) and people arguing in an asylum.
What happened is serious shock therapy. Dude fully disassociated after finding his lover murdered by the Anglerfish and rather than helping people are trying to make him be more "normal" (See how the serfs work the ground? And they give it all they got. And they give it all they got. And YOU'LL give it all you got)
Editing real quick to go over some misconceptions:
- No he didn't murder her. Considering he was never tried for murder he didn't do it. We learn from the interlude that it was common knowledge that she was murdered. The fact that he never actually stood trials means it wasn't him.
-The Anglerfish/Sirens is the one who actually murdered the love interest. There's a reason why they say they'll be atoning, not our protagonist who gets a happy ending via The Whale.
-The protagonist is suffering from Disassociative Identity Disorder, not schizophrenia. We know this because in Murderers he constantly refers to "they" before finally coming full circle and finally realizing "I was in the forest looking to see the trees but none were there.."
-The Protagonist is in Purgatory. He's been in a loop and that's why the Miracle Musical was put on by The Whale (Yes, really. Joe Hawley's the one who put it on and The Whale is him. The Whale is basically God.) in order for things to be different enough to where our protagonist can FINALLY process his life and move on.
The DID thing explains why he says "Doctor I can't tell if I'm not me"
At *3:01* on the flashing version you can hear the end of labyrinth on the chiptune
The only one i noticed were the most obvious of the voice distortions/ added glitches from the flashing version and chiptune in the final segment. I never would have noticed the symbols crashing forwards/ reversed, you did a great job.
this analasis is exactly what i wanted to hear and i only first heard the song yesterday! the algoRhythm was a bro today
Really outstanding edit, especially with the time code and everything. (I can tell this was edited in premiere) Great work and thank you!
Thank you! I’m flattered and I’m glad you enjoyed
the minds electric
Same
Thank you for posting this I love it
Vermillionsweets Wow! Thank you for enjoying it!
Amazing work you did. It helped a lot to try and understand the whole of the album. Couldn't have done better with just Filmora and a reversed video.
Edit: I rewatched the video a couple of times hearing and testing many differences and i found a kind of reliable theory. The Tame version happens hand to hand while the protagonist in question is sent to the electric chair. The Flashing happens after and it is the mind remembering the situation, deduced by the whole glitch, distortion, heavy sounds and electric tunes it has. This may be proven by some specific differentes in each song.
1. In the Tame version i think the reason why it has more *Guitar distortion* while playing the heavy piano pauses from Murders is because the protagonist remembers the murder being a lot more chaotic since it is his mind holding a grudge against the murder, but in the Flashing version the distortion isnt added because his mind isn't correctly functioning and he is now the chaotic monster he thought the murder was. This may be thanks to the electric chair messing up his axons & dendrites (his neurons), part that is said in both versions.
2. Following what i said, the "Help me, Axondendrite" part is said in both versions and it is his brain calling for help. In the Tame part it's heard a lot better because he's "awake" (or in its five senses) and feeling it all and how it happens. On the other hand, at least i can't hear the "help me, axodendrite" part on the Flashing version, maybe because his mind tries to not remember the feeling of the hurtful chair anymore since his energy was probably spent after the distorted part.
3. Again, i deduce that the distorted mixture of the opera, hawaii and the murders piano scene is his mind going through the pain once again. Maybe it got more activated while in the happening.
Thank you so much for making this. This song is so freaking complex and I love how every time I listen to it or another version it’s just I learn something new. Thank you
i don't have headphones so i just held up my speakers to my ears which worked
At 3:00, in the tame version, you can hear a "Ha! Not you, huh?" in response to "Doctor, I can't tell if I'm not me"
I think the last part sounds much better in the distorted version, i especially love the tesla synth
AAGH I LOVE THE LITTLE DETAILS SO MUCHH AAAGHHHH
I legitimately cannot stop listening to this song, I love it.
i noticed that the flashing version's first verse is more "rougher" on the synth compared to the tame version
i feel it's also important to mention that at 1:05 on the left only, there's a triangle playing
Good find! I love that other people have found more differences than I could, and are still sharing them years after I uploaded. Thank you!
I was going to comment this but well you beat me to it.
Thanks for uploading this! I listened to the song forward and backwards many times trying to understand if it was a perfect mirror, all the wacky stuff in the second half threw me off listening to them in sync
there are some parts i prefer from the tame and some parts i prefer from flashing. i prefer the part from "see how the serfs" onwards and also "all mine towers" to "cower and pray" in flashing but i prefer a lot of the rest in the tame version
0:01 if you hear closely, tame version has chattering here too.
edit: 0:03 flashing version has louder bass.
edit: 0:15 flashing version voice has some cracks or glitch.
edit: 0:29 0:45 1:19 i think flashing version has reversed... whatever this is called, not a musician. not sure if it is reversed but it surely is different.
edit: 0:33 for flashing version, not only vocal but whole audio including piano has distorts too(kinda obvious)
0:46 1:21 flashing version's distort part has some signs before they start, also different from tame version.
1:46 flashing version has reversed cymbal and tame version has normal cymbal again.
1:54 the sign here has reversed cymbal and 'so'
2:16 sign also makes it a little different before the text says so(kinda obvious again)
This is a really cool video, and I'm glad you made it
Thanks! I really appreciate that you liked it
Damn this honestly portrays insanity better than either on its own, which one do you hear? Which one is real? Am I hearing things? Like jeez
I can’t edit on mobile so I’ll add what I wanted to say here, it feels like the tame one is from a more sane point of view while the flashing one is the insanity of the speaker
i relate to this song as a tti survivor thank you for this
2:35 is majestic : the whistling is fire
around 2:18, the flashing version starts playing the labyrinth melody and it wouldve been good to mention that in the graphic
In demo 4 of the song it actually has a added part where it's even more like labyrinth
i noticed that when listening to the instrumental but ive never seen anyone mention it
@@ChuckbuckemI had actually listened to demo 4 before I ever heard labyrinth and I felt like the Leonardo Dicaprio pointing meme
“OMG THATS THE THING THATS OMG GUYS OMG DID Y- DID YOU HEAR THAT THATS THE THE THE DEMO THE DEMO 4 GUYS!!!”
this is really helpful! i always listen to the tame version to hear joe's beautiful voice clearly, but the flashing version is very cool and it *does* feel like you're in the mind of 'simon'..
This comparison is honestly fascinating. I did just think the reversed song was then played forwards. I love that it got distorted and garbled where you think the song is playing as it should, but it's a "glitchy" version instead
This is amazing! Really sad that it hasn't gotten more attention yet
I really enjoy this, thank you
Thank you for stopping by to watch! I’m really glad you enjoyed
Such a great comparison!!
this was a actually pretty interesting, i didn’t notice most of these changes
Damn this is a really good comparison.
Tropical music
😳wow dude
Oh wow, i was actully planning on making something similar to this. This is great, thank you!
This little bit at 1:22 gives me very unsettling liminal vibes. It’s like if the Backrooms had a soundtrack.
you described it perfectly. i love that part
I wish the tame version had the chiptune, that stuff is legendary.
Thank you for doing all the tremendous amount of work one must go through just to listen to Joe Hawley's music
This made me giggle
i feel like the "Tame" Version shows more of the real "story" and the "Flashing" version shows what simon saw, a corrupted vision of what happened that was more chaotic and distorted due to his punishment
Thank you.
Am I the only one wondering what the people are saying in the background?
light world and dark world
Gonna be completely honest with you all, had no idea the flashing version existed until this video😭 I'm a disgrace to the community ik
IM TOO OBSESSED EITH THIS SONG
Very well made
True heroes make animatics to the Flashing Version-
2:16 love this part
THE FACT THAT IT HAS THE *LABRYNTH* WHISTLE THO
tysm i coul;dnt tell the differences before
I mostly prefer the tame version but the demo 4 part is a lot better in the flashing version
Why do both these versions give me such a different perspective on life?-
I noticed that the flashing version cuts out the "I" from "I think of these thoughts..."
Splendid!
It took me a little while to figure out, but the 'Tame' version here is the part where the whole song is played backwards before it plays forwards (Obviously other people have figured it out in the comments, but I don't know all the 'lore' about this song and the album, and it seems like there's a lot of different versions of the song around).
Listening to (i think) the official video, with the slightly shorter song (the 'Tame' one) played backwards, and then the 'Flashing' one played forwards, in the 'Tame' song I can hear the voices in the background.
The people chattering in the background are backwards here, but when the 'Tame' song is played in reverse the people talking are forwards. It's just very hard to hear what they're saying.
When it's backwards:
At 1:01 voices begin on the right, then I think someone saying "I too!" on the left. The same voice says something indistinct on the right and then the left again, and the general voices continue on both sides until they get drowned out at about 1:10 by the music.
From about 2:01 there are indistinct voices on both sides.
Around 2:06 I can hear a feminine voice saying "You aught to be ashamed of yourself" in the left of my headphones.
At 2:17 voices begin again on both sides. The most distinct comes from the left, a 'young' voice (? It's higher, and easier to hear than the lower voices. Also the voice that replied to it sounds reassuring, like it's speaking to a child) seeming to have a conversation with a lower voice. "... A-and then they sailed off without... [indistinct]" (The lower voice, possibly:) "They couldn't sail off... [indistinct] " "Why not?".
There are other voices, but I can't hear them well or make out what they're saying behind the music.
Someone else said that the voices say
“Yes a fluke! And then they sailed off and dropped me on the beaches of Timbuktu!”
“They couldn’t sail off and drop you on the beaches of Timbuktu.”
“Why not?”
Because Timbuktu is located in the middle of the Sahara Desert.”
“Oh”
“Yes ‘oh’, and tie an anchor on that imagination of yours.”
The first part of the flashing part that the tame doesn't have actually has the scream from demo 4
And after the line "doctor I can't tell if I'm not me" you can hear a male voice saying something to the effect of "not you, huh?"
they sort of feel like theyre supposed to be played like this??
What
I only got the right earbud
2:43 I've always wanted to know what exactly that guy is saying in the background. It sounds a bit like the other samples used but i can more clearly make out what he's saying. Whatever it is, it sounds a lot like there's an "Apollo" in there. Whether that's referencing the Greek god, the theater, or one of the Apollo missions, I'm not sure.
It's likely he said Apollo; this song is part of a album of other songs, one of which (called Isle Unto Thyself) references Apollo in the lyrics.
"And you fall inside a hole you couldn't see
And you fall inside a hole inside of-
Someone help me"
this is incredible. tysm for making this.
left ear: tme (no backwards part)
right ear: tme reversed (2x speed)
thank you
I like the random guitar strums
I always had a feeling that the less distorted version was just the reversed part but unreversed