If you would like to watch what happened with Khan in the original timeline Old Spock was referring too, feel free to watch the episode Space Seed and then the movie Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan. With all respect to Benedict Cumberbatch, Ricardo Montalban as Khan was iconic.
There is nothing wrong or abnormal about loving Star Wars AND Star Trek. I hate it when people try to make you choose one or the other. It's OK to love both franchises.
@@wolf9walkerbut that’s absolutely irrelevant in regards to that statement. He simply meant what was already explained. That his crew was in cryo and didn’t need to breathe.
16:17 It's sort of a running gag that the ensign officer, aka Guy with Red Shirt, gets killed in the show when they go out on missions. They actually make that joke in the previous movie when the cocky guy in red gets vaporized in the parachute scene.
When I was growing up in small town BC there was a kid who was in every theatre production and we all got very familiar seeing him sing and dance and then BAM he’s the main alien at the beginning of this film and I’m just in awe the entire time. “I know him!” Anyway shout out to Jeremy Raymond.
Going to be honest aside from the marketing where JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof had the worst kept secret at fans that Benedict Cumberbatch's character of John Harrison was actually Khan, I still enjoy this film nonetheless and apparently this and _Sherlock_ were my introduction to Benedict Cumberbatch
I saw this movie when it came out in theaters the audience reaction to Khan was idk the right words unforgettable? I was like who the hell is this guy making the audience shocked
Kahn Noonian Singh in the original timeline was a product of the Eugenics Wars that happened on Earth. Him and his fellow soldiers/friends were all charged with war crimes, but instead of being put into cryo sleep, they are marooned on a planet barely livable. That happens during the Space Seed episode. This movie is the Kelvin Timeline version of Wrath of Kahn.
I believe in both timeliness the augmented superhumans still flee Earth on the Botany Bay. Side Canon says Admiral Marcus goes on a war preparation push and so it is him who finds the Botany Bay rather than Kirk leading to these events.
In Space Seed, Ceti Alpha 5 is a completely habitable planet. It's just that there are no amenities there, and Khan and his people will have to start from the stone age, basically. It isn't until Wrath of Khan that we learn the planet's orbit changed and Ceti Alpha V became nearly uninhabitable.
@@EMTedroni By the time of Wrath of Khan the planet is a wasteland though. Didn't he say they had abandon it for some reason or another to go to Ceti Alpha 4?
@ About a year after they were left on Ceti Alpha V, Ceti Alpha VI, for some reason, exploded and shifted the orbit of Ceti Alpha V. That's what turned their planet into a desert. Khan's people never had the chance to rebuild the technology to return to space, or build a proper society.
Peter Weller really rocks here too as the old starfleet general. I think the original film really nailed it, so this one falls a bit short in comparison.
I've seen this movie a bunch of times... and every time I wondered where I knew him from, but I always forgot to look him up... now I know why he was always so familiar xD
Loved the silent vacant look on the twin bros faces when the great Khan name revelation was finally revealed .Clearly it’s something that you had to see the original ST movies first for it have much of a impact on.Lol.
What's a Gorn? A large humanoid reptilian with teeth like a crocodile. Savage but very intelligent. First introduced in an episode of the original series. I think you'll like the next one. Simon Pegg who plays Scotty wrote it.
The man who gave him the ok to go to Cronos and reinststed spock is Peter Weller, the actor that played RoboCop. He hosted a documentary that i love i love so much i memorized the script. 😂😂 id recognize that voice in my sleep
22:22 The Gorn are a lizardlike humanoid species imagine if the Jurasic Park Velociraptors were able to evolve to the point of being a space fairing civilization.
I can't believe you didn't watch the original Star Trek movies first. You completely missed the point of the conversations about the timeline conversations, and the nuance of the differences from the original story and the timeline changes in the new version. It is absolutely beautiful!
Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan was the worst kept secret. They announced Cumberbatch for the film and everyone online immediately speculated that he would play some version of Khan. The producers and writers all denied it, then the movie comes out, Cumberbatch is Khan and they 'all went AH WE GOTCHA, HE WAS KHAN. Clowns.
I'd love for you to continue the series into the older movies but I think watching some episodes of The Original Series might be good, at the very least I would recommend 'Space Speed' since one of the movies pertains quite particularly to it! If you are willing to watch some key episodes (whether 1, 2 or 5 or more) I have a little list of recommendations in order of what I think is most importance/relevant/interesting episodes (obviously you can reorder them chronologically these are just ones I think are a must watch order): TOS S1x24 "Space Seed" TOS 2x05 "Amok Time" TOS S1x28 "The City on the Edge of Forever" TOS S1x01 "Where No Man Has Gone Before" TOS S2x10 "Mirror, Mirror" TOS S2X06 "The Doomsday Machine" TOS S2x13 "The Trouble with Tribbles" TOS S1x02 "The Corbomite Maneuver" TOS S2x15 "Journey to Babel" TOS S1x26 "The Devil in the Dark" TOS S1x15&16 "The Menagerie" Part 1 and 2 TOS S1x19 "Arena" TOS S1x23 "A Taste of Armageddon" TOS S3x15 "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
Mostly agreed, however 2009 was meant to bring in a new audience and create new fans so if it manages that then I think that's fine. Hopefully they go back to the others following Beyond.
It's called the Prime Directive. Not to interfere with a species until they've reached a particular level of technological and ethical development. It's *meant* t prevent Starfleet from engaging in the type of colonialism or cultural genocide that we see in Earth's past. But it does sometimes cause problems.
I hope you enjoy Star Trek: Beyond, because I personally loved it. And I also hope you go back and watch some of the OG films. Ranking-wise, most people put the originals as 2, 6 (or 6, 2), 4, 3, 1, 5. The Khan one is most often considered the best, but frankly, I think 6 (the last with the full original cast) is just too perfect.
Hope you will watch the original movies that were great. The one with the whales is my favorite. You should watch the BBC Sherlock with Cumberbatch. It's amazing! Probably my favorite TV show of all time except for the Granada Sherlock with Jeremy Brett.
Khan Noonian Singh is a genetic superman from the Eugenics Wars of the late 20th and early 21st centuries on Earth (Star Trek: The Original Series & films take place in the 22nd Century). Initially portrayed by actor Ricardo Montalban in "Space Seed" (The Original Series, Season 1, Episode 22) in 1967. Montalban returned to the role in 1982's Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. As good as Cumberbatch is as Khan...he is not Montalban, and Montalban will ALWAYS be "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!! Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!" Dr. Carol Marcus (Alice Eve) is another legacy character. She first appeared in Star Trek II and is pretty important in the original timeline.
Ok, since you started your entire Star Trek journey with these two movies without any of the other movies or TV shows, by sage advice is to go right to Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan. There are a tons of references from the two you’ve watched that will be applicable here. TRUST ME, I’m Stan the Movie man, your compass that tells you which way the wind shines! 😉
You guys are awesome! I love watching reactions from people that also share my love for movies. Keep it up! Also, Wrath of Khan was far superior to this one
The 1st og star trek movie was a little slow. The 2nd one, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is the best one. Might want to check out the tv show episode space seed to get more about khan and explain a couple things about Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
LOL, Star Trek is decades old and very lore heavy. so some of the Easter Eggs and reveals...like Kahn's name...would have hit you a LOT harder, had you at least watched the original Star Trek films. I feel like a lot of the references went over your head since you didn't have that history. There are a lot of twist in this film, that were staged based on previous knowledge.
Have seen some of your past reactions, you’ve got a good channel here, guys. That being said, I would hope that you would go back and at least watch “Space Seed”; the episode from Star Trek: The Original Series that features the character of Khan Noonian Singh, played by Ricardo Montalban (Fantasy Island), as well as the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982), to understand certain references that carried over into this film.
I keep wondering if THIS Star Trek group is ever going to bring the story back to the original timeline(Spock's planet has NOT been destroyed, and there is no relationship between Spock/Uhura).
Good question. It seems like at any moment Paramount have 5/6 Trek movies in the writing/preproduction stage. There is still some talk about a Kelvin 4. But you had the Quentin Tarantino one that fell off. Its could be nice to see another full budget movie but I also think Paramount are in financial difficulties currently which may be somewhat responsible for Discovery, Prodigy and Lower Decks being cut loose. And Section 31 changed from a full series down to a "Long Trek."
Oh I remember, this is the one that takes the "Kirk is depressed over being past his prime" story from WoK even though it makes no sense cause he's like 30 years younger than WoK Kirk. Also the one that takes the Kobayashi Maru, which gave us a really good insight into Kirk's character, and turns it into a giant joke. Also the one that takes Spock's sacrifice (Kirk in this case) and makes it pointless by having him come back with super genes right after. This is the one. The worst one. The worst of the worst.
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ANOTHER FAST SEQUEL, MAYBE WE GET BETTER AND WE IMPROVE? MAYBE IT IS A FLUKE!?!??! WHO KNOWS BUT WE TRY!
next reaction please react to guardians of the galaxy 2014 reaction please brothers
@@thejokergang Already seen it my man, sadly won't come to the channel
Watch Tropic Thunder!
@@OctoKrool what about jumanji welcome to the jungle reaction
sorry , this is not STAR TREK.
its WOKE trek.
RIP Anton Yelchin
For the first time, we see Chekov put on a red shirt. The irony is not lost on this old fan.
Just commented about this as well. The fucking curse of the red shirt
If you would like to watch what happened with Khan in the original timeline Old Spock was referring too, feel free to watch the episode Space Seed and then the movie Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan. With all respect to Benedict Cumberbatch, Ricardo Montalban as Khan was iconic.
.... Iconic... Or I...KHAN!!!..ic...
Sorry. 😔
I totally agree. I love this movie, but you really can’t beat the original Khan. Star Trek’s best.
There is nothing wrong or abnormal about loving Star Wars AND Star Trek. I hate it when people try to make you choose one or the other. It's OK to love both franchises.
One's a space western, one's a space opera. They're not the same, and there's plenty of room to like lots of parts - however big - of both.
I like DC and I like Marvel.
Kahn does need oxygen. The crew doesn't need to breath because they are cryofrozen, hence they can survive in space.
But he can probably hold his breath a lot longer than a regular human. At least that's my thought.
@@wolf9walkerbut that’s absolutely irrelevant in regards to that statement. He simply meant what was already explained. That his crew was in cryo and didn’t need to breathe.
** Khan
(the "kh" is its own sound, like when you use "ch" or "sh" or "th")
“So you’re going to flex with your ship on the indigenous people?”. Columbus - “hold my beer”.
What's his name in black ships dropping anchor in Japan.
16:17 It's sort of a running gag that the ensign officer, aka Guy with Red Shirt, gets killed in the show when they go out on missions. They actually make that joke in the previous movie when the cocky guy in red gets vaporized in the parachute scene.
And it's so sad that Anton Yelchin died in a ridiculous accident after the 3rd movie.
@EMTedroni Was gonna bring that up in the next movie, but yeah, that was really sad.
Khan said his crew doesn't need oxygen because they are frozen in a capsule. It's not some superpower they have.
Took a bite of apple and then was hit by Bandage cucumber snack. I nearly died. 😂
When I was growing up in small town BC there was a kid who was in every theatre production and we all got very familiar seeing him sing and dance and then BAM he’s the main alien at the beginning of this film and I’m just in awe the entire time. “I know him!” Anyway shout out to Jeremy Raymond.
Going to be honest aside from the marketing where JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof had the worst kept secret at fans that Benedict Cumberbatch's character of John Harrison was actually Khan, I still enjoy this film nonetheless and apparently this and _Sherlock_ were my introduction to Benedict Cumberbatch
Thank you for not making us wait! These movies are so good, the 3rd one is great too.
Yes! The third one co-written by Simon Pegg 😃
"My name is Khaaaaan"
[crickets]
[crickets]
[crickets]
As if that has any sort of meaning to anybody aboard that ship.
How It Should've Ended did a great bit on that.
"The audience are gonna love that."
The audience mostly didn't love that.
It was a great moment.
@@samronin1141all audiences I saw it with loved it.
Without first seeing the episode 'Space Seed' and Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Kahn, you lose the reference of this entire film
My thoughts exactly
And also exactly why the "TWIST" didn't work and was silly to attempt.
I saw this movie when it came out in theaters the audience reaction to Khan was idk the right words unforgettable? I was like who the hell is this guy making the audience shocked
Nah, not really lol.
Yup
Kahn Noonian Singh in the original timeline was a product of the Eugenics Wars that happened on Earth. Him and his fellow soldiers/friends were all charged with war crimes, but instead of being put into cryo sleep, they are marooned on a planet barely livable. That happens during the Space Seed episode. This movie is the Kelvin Timeline version of Wrath of Kahn.
I believe in both timeliness the augmented superhumans still flee Earth on the Botany Bay.
Side Canon says Admiral Marcus goes on a war preparation push and so it is him who finds the Botany Bay rather than Kirk leading to these events.
In Space Seed, Ceti Alpha 5 is a completely habitable planet. It's just that there are no amenities there, and Khan and his people will have to start from the stone age, basically.
It isn't until Wrath of Khan that we learn the planet's orbit changed and Ceti Alpha V became nearly uninhabitable.
Chekov: "On Ceti Alpha V, there was a paradise! A chance for life-!"
Khan " *This IS Ceti Alpha Five!* "
@@EMTedroni By the time of Wrath of Khan the planet is a wasteland though. Didn't he say they had abandon it for some reason or another to go to Ceti Alpha 4?
@ About a year after they were left on Ceti Alpha V, Ceti Alpha VI, for some reason, exploded and shifted the orbit of Ceti Alpha V. That's what turned their planet into a desert. Khan's people never had the chance to rebuild the technology to return to space, or build a proper society.
What you Khan't he KHAN! Legend.
6:42 ..."Benny Cucumbesnack is here" Best nickname ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Peter Weller really rocks here too as the old starfleet general. I think the original film really nailed it, so this one falls a bit short in comparison.
I've seen this movie a bunch of times... and every time I wondered where I knew him from, but I always forgot to look him up... now I know why he was always so familiar xD
He is most known for his role as Robo cop.
Spock looked death in the face and struck a pose for the ages
Loved the silent vacant look on the twin bros faces when the great Khan name revelation was finally revealed .Clearly it’s something that you had to see the original ST movies first for it have much of a impact on.Lol.
40:25 I imagine Khan’s people looking for a challenge would end up becoming Predators, farming Aliens to hunt. 😂
There is an Easter Egg when the Enterprise is hit and the hull breaches, R2-D2 goes flying out. You have to watch it in slow motion ..
This is the movie that introduced me to Cumberbatch
My fav. part 😊 and Benedict really great acting 👌
When Spock yells Khan!! After Kirk's death, that's a reference to Seinfeld when George Costanza yells Twix!!!!
What's a Gorn? A large humanoid reptilian with teeth like a crocodile. Savage but very intelligent. First introduced in an episode of the original series.
I think you'll like the next one. Simon Pegg who plays Scotty wrote it.
The man who gave him the ok to go to Cronos and reinststed spock is Peter Weller, the actor that played RoboCop. He hosted a documentary that i love i love so much i memorized the script. 😂😂 id recognize that voice in my sleep
The saddest moment for me is understanding that Kirk has now lost two fathers... One he didn't know, and one he did.
22:22 The Gorn are a lizardlike humanoid species imagine if the Jurasic Park Velociraptors were able to evolve to the point of being a space fairing civilization.
It's amazing how Romulans from the future, alter the past which completely race swap Khan Noonien Singh in the new timeline.
KHAN!!
Was the central villain in an original series episode and the second Star Trek Movie with Shatner and co
Thumbs up just for the what you can't he Khan comment
His crew is in cold storage that's why they don't need oxygen 😂
You should consider watching the series "Sherlock" if you want more Cumberbatch... Only 12 episodes total and it's some of his best work.
23:24 Gorn are like lizard/dinosaur people. They tend not to be nice folks. Even in the womb, apparently.
I can't believe you didn't watch the original Star Trek movies first. You completely missed the point of the conversations about the timeline conversations, and the nuance of the differences from the original story and the timeline changes in the new version. It is absolutely beautiful!
Love the video octokrool stay motivated dream big 1 mill on the way
Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan was the worst kept secret. They announced Cumberbatch for the film and everyone online immediately speculated that he would play some version of Khan. The producers and writers all denied it, then the movie comes out, Cumberbatch is Khan and they 'all went AH WE GOTCHA, HE WAS KHAN. Clowns.
But anyway, keep going with Trek, it's so very good and if this is your starting point and you like it, well damn, you're in for a great ride.
Khan‘s crew didn’t need oxygen because there in Cryo sleep
"EW, THEY'RE UGLY!!" 😂😂😂
Lord of the Rings is a trilogy of books - that's exactly the way the books are subtitles - if they went against that, fans would have rioted.
If you thought that Khan was cool, wait until you see the original played by Ricardo Montalban. It was a legendary performance.
I'd love for you to continue the series into the older movies but I think watching some episodes of The Original Series might be good, at the very least I would recommend 'Space Speed' since one of the movies pertains quite particularly to it! If you are willing to watch some key episodes (whether 1, 2 or 5 or more) I have a little list of recommendations in order of what I think is most importance/relevant/interesting episodes (obviously you can reorder them chronologically these are just ones I think are a must watch order):
TOS S1x24 "Space Seed"
TOS 2x05 "Amok Time"
TOS S1x28 "The City on the Edge of Forever"
TOS S1x01 "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
TOS S2x10 "Mirror, Mirror"
TOS S2X06 "The Doomsday Machine"
TOS S2x13 "The Trouble with Tribbles"
TOS S1x02 "The Corbomite Maneuver"
TOS S2x15 "Journey to Babel"
TOS S1x26 "The Devil in the Dark"
TOS S1x15&16 "The Menagerie" Part 1 and 2
TOS S1x19 "Arena"
TOS S1x23 "A Taste of Armageddon"
TOS S3x15 "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
Not everyone agrees, but I loved the last one, Beyond. I love this stuff! Hope you give it a chance.
Yes, now I have a good video to watch when I get home. 👏
"Can't rock the Spock.."...😂😊
But can you Rock Paper Scissor Lizard Spock?
RIP ANTON YELCHIN ❤
You really should have watch the original 6 films before watching these
Mostly agreed, however 2009 was meant to bring in a new audience and create new fans so if it manages that then I think that's fine.
Hopefully they go back to the others following Beyond.
I've never been this early i like it here 😂
EARLY BIRD GETS THE WORM!
@@OctoKroolbut the second mouse gets the cheese 😁
Happy New Year team🎉🎉
It's called the Prime Directive. Not to interfere with a species until they've reached a particular level of technological and ethical development. It's *meant* t prevent Starfleet from engaging in the type of colonialism or cultural genocide that we see in Earth's past. But it does sometimes cause problems.
A fave of mine... Thanks y'all ☺️ 1:10
CucumberSnatch? Anyway the 3rd one is really great too!
The oddest thing about these movies is their fanatical refusal to say the word Enterprise. It's always "our ship", "the ship".
She Won't stop talking about you!
"Let the indigenous people develop at their own pace." For what happened here look up Cargo Cult.
Still say you need to watch the O.G. Wrath of Kahn
The only reason they didnt need oxygen is because they were locked in stasis tubes. Out and about like Khan they still need oxygen
Basically a remake of the original Star Trek II
I loved this movie.
Trek will never do you wrong. Unless you watch Discovery after Season 2.
Curse of the red shirt.
RIP Anton
I hope you enjoy Star Trek: Beyond, because I personally loved it.
And I also hope you go back and watch some of the OG films. Ranking-wise, most people put the originals as 2, 6 (or 6, 2), 4, 3, 1, 5. The Khan one is most often considered the best, but frankly, I think 6 (the last with the full original cast) is just too perfect.
Watch the og guys, Star Trek 2 Wrath of Khan ….. such a great movie.
I’m no familiar with Star Trek lore but why was everyone or at least a large portion no happy with cunberbatch casting ?
34:29 this is why this movie works
Hope you will watch the original movies that were great. The one with the whales is my favorite. You should watch the BBC Sherlock with Cumberbatch. It's amazing! Probably my favorite TV show of all time except for the Granada Sherlock with Jeremy Brett.
if yall havent i recommend watching the original Wrath of Khan movie while into darkness was amazing Wrath of Khan is triple that.
This one is my favorite,you don't mess with khan or you'll get his wraith....lol
Not everyone likes the third movie, but the cast remains spectacular.
Hope you watch the next one. Star Trek Beyond. Loved it too
Glad I’ve been subbed for so long cause getting shit talked too must suck to those who aren’t lol.
Khan Noonian Singh is a genetic superman from the Eugenics Wars of the late 20th and early 21st centuries on Earth (Star Trek: The Original Series & films take place in the 22nd Century). Initially portrayed by actor Ricardo Montalban in "Space Seed" (The Original Series, Season 1, Episode 22) in 1967. Montalban returned to the role in 1982's Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
As good as Cumberbatch is as Khan...he is not Montalban, and Montalban will ALWAYS be "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!! Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!"
Dr. Carol Marcus (Alice Eve) is another legacy character. She first appeared in Star Trek II and is pretty important in the original timeline.
"With my last breath, I spit at thee." Is so iconic. So Khan.
Ok, since you started your entire Star Trek journey with these two movies without any of the other movies or TV shows, by sage advice is to go right to Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan. There are a tons of references from the two you’ve watched that will be applicable here. TRUST ME, I’m Stan the Movie man, your compass that tells you which way the wind shines! 😉
Been waiting for this one. Benedict Cumberbatch absolutely kills this role.
Agreed
You guys are awesome! I love watching reactions from people that also share my love for movies. Keep it up! Also, Wrath of Khan was far superior to this one
They do not know Gorn.
Where you can't i Khan.... I am getting a t-shirt of this made up today!!
And don't knock the Spock.. yeah that's my new water bottle.
The third is also very good, and I like it far better than this one, though that is just my personal preference.
U want a bad ass movie to watch? “Soldier” starring Kurt Russel that’s a ride of a movie
Who is Khan?
😥 crying. We all just gotta cry because....😖😭....everyone cry. F this movie
If you liked this movie, you got to see the original Khan in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
whatever you smoke... I want it too... just kidding... as always your reaction is better than the film itself
The 1st og star trek movie was a little slow. The 2nd one, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is the best one. Might want to check out the tv show episode space seed to get more about khan and explain a couple things about Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Hope you guys watch the original movie franchise after this trilogy, and perhaps Lower Decks one day
Lower Decks is woke trash.
LOL, Star Trek is decades old and very lore heavy. so some of the Easter Eggs and reveals...like Kahn's name...would have hit you a LOT harder, had you at least watched the original Star Trek films. I feel like a lot of the references went over your head since you didn't have that history. There are a lot of twist in this film, that were staged based on previous knowledge.
I need a What you can't, he Khan tshirt...
Have seen some of your past reactions, you’ve got a good channel here, guys.
That being said, I would hope that you would go back and at least watch “Space Seed”; the episode from Star Trek: The Original Series that features the character of Khan Noonian Singh, played by Ricardo Montalban (Fantasy Island), as well as the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982), to understand certain references that carried over into this film.
Need to watch the original
This film is rather good
The lack of a reaction to the name Kahn shows you need to go back and watch Star trek 2 from the original crew
U missed TuSpock! Sorry couldn't resist
I keep wondering if THIS Star Trek group is ever going to bring the story back to the original timeline(Spock's planet has NOT been destroyed, and there is no relationship between Spock/Uhura).
Good question. It seems like at any moment Paramount have 5/6 Trek movies in the writing/preproduction stage.
There is still some talk about a Kelvin 4.
But you had the Quentin Tarantino one that fell off.
Its could be nice to see another full budget movie but I also think Paramount are in financial difficulties currently which may be somewhat responsible for Discovery, Prodigy and Lower Decks being cut loose.
And Section 31 changed from a full series down to a "Long Trek."
Mirror image of wrath of khan if you haven't seen it
You guys should really check out the original series and movies.
You guys should watch Chappie, it's pretty good movie
Yeah, but Elysium is way better
Curtis, of course, I would NEVER rock the Spock, but I'm curious.
Can you mock the Spock?
Oh I remember, this is the one that takes the "Kirk is depressed over being past his prime" story from WoK even though it makes no sense cause he's like 30 years younger than WoK Kirk. Also the one that takes the Kobayashi Maru, which gave us a really good insight into Kirk's character, and turns it into a giant joke. Also the one that takes Spock's sacrifice (Kirk in this case) and makes it pointless by having him come back with super genes right after.
This is the one. The worst one. The worst of the worst.
This and then Star Wars 7 and 9 convinced me that JJ Abrams doesn't have an original bone in his body. Just rehashing the past over again.
I trekked