Was I Wrong about Sephiroth's Sword?
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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A constructive dialogue is always better than just monologuing into a camera, so I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this topic in more detail. The reproduction of Sephiroth's Masamune that I handled at Medieval Depot was made as a wallhanger, and its floppiness was part of the lack of functionality. There are real two-handed swords in history that could be the height of the user or even longer, and those did indeed work in battle.
However, Sephiroth's design is a little different, and not quite as functional. Let's talk about why.
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Hey Skall, thanks for responding to my video and sharing it for people to see. I do think depending on artwork sephiroths sword goes from upper limit of ssangsudo to well and truly impossible but it was a good chance to share the ssangsudo on RUclips. Thanks again and looking forward to your content as always!
also thank you for being chill and respectful :D response videos don't have to mean drama, and this interaction was an example or a healthy exchange
keep up the awesome work buddy! and more power to you.
It was a good chance. Asian swords like the nodachi and ssangsudo are awesome!
I enjoyed your video @JustaBug
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! One can't possibly know everything and learning new things is always fun especially sword related!
I'm not gonna argue about swords with a guy that throws SUPERNOVAS at you
Sephiroth having gravity magic makes any sword reasonable. If he can throw a meteor without breaking a sweat, he can easily alter the gravitational pull on any sword to make it move however he wants
And yet he still wanted the black materia, this is why a child needs their birth mother and not a crazy scientist for a father.
Tifa TANKED those btw.
@@RobTheSquire First class soldier pre god sephy can do this with out magic, but S class is pretty op to start with lol
@@VampsTheFallen Yeah, like, in real life this obviously is a different story, but in the universe of FF7, the Masamune or Buster Sword aren't even worth batting an eye at.
Sephiroth is basically Wolverine meets Captain America. He can slice metal buildings apart without breaking a sweat. In universe, he might not even have a physical equal other than Cloud. He's also functionally immortal and seems to be some level of a reality warper.
Sephiroth is a level 99 RPG character with perfect stats walking around in the equivalent of the tutorial level. This isn't a verse meant to be taken at face value with real world physics in mind. Final Fantasy, but especially FF7, has always run on the Rule of Cool.
Masamune rolls 3d8 for length every five minutes. I swear it changes throughout the course of a single fight.
I now want to write a D&D statblock for a weapon that randomly changes length at thematically-relevant moments. xD
Hi, another korean traditional martial arts practitioner here. Jut a bug is a fantastic content creator about all this topics and seems to have an educated opinion about the thinhs he talks about. Love that you both interacted in a polite way, sharing thoughts and knowledge. Love your videos mate.
I think I saw some videos of kendo masters actually sheathing or drawing a super-long nodachi. And basically what you can do is: draw it as much as you can, then grip the blade and continue drawing until it's out. And same with sheathing: grip the blade, aim it at the sheath, put it it a little bit, until it's deep enough that you can grab the handle - then finish sheathing.
It looks way more graceful in the videos, with slightly throwing the nodach up and catching it by the back of the blade.
I saw a similar video if not the same one.
ruclips.net/video/hFVL0RzmbbI/видео.html
Seki sensei has a video on it with a breakdown of the technique ruclips.net/video/hFVL0RzmbbI/видео.html
Historically, the super-long blades would typically be carried by retainers, who would hold the sheath while their master drew the blade. That whole "team work makes the dream work" kinda thing hehe!
@@olencone4005 Qi Ji Guang, also mentions that being done with the Chang dao (the ancestor of this korean sword)
After LK Chen released their Chang Dao and Miao Dao on their store, I went and did some more research on them. Apparently, after some Ming naval commanders put down a pirate problem, they witnessed the pirates using Japanese Odachi and Nodachi and became obsessed with implementing them into the Ming military. They started weapons testing with various alterations to the design, and one of the first changes they made was the length. Some archaeological finds of the expiremental weapons were SEVEN FEET LONG from tip to pommel. Apparently they were usable but uncomfortable to use. They eventually settled with keeping a similar length to the odachi with a more agressive distil taper to lighten it and make it more nimble in the hand and more convenient to carry.
The problem with this theory is that huge two handed swords have existed in various forms since the Han dynasty. Sometimes as execution swords (examples exist in museums) all the way up to the Ming with better records of being used in combat.
@@Peaches-i2i Horses were used in agriculture long before war, and people don't really use other pack animals for war.
Point being while executioner blades *exist* it's entirely probable the were offhandedly dismissed as being impractical the same way dual wielding often is.
@IrvineTheHunter There were two handed combat swords and two handed execution swords. The Song and Tang Dynasties had horse-cutting-swords that may have been used to fight cavalry.
@user-nq2oz8tf2l Two handed swords of the Qin/Han era (200s BC) all the way up to the Song Dynasty (1200s AD) were long straight swords. The Mongols popularized curved TurcoMongol swords during the Yuan Dynasty, which influenced Ming Dynasty daos. We also know the Song Dynasty had been importing Japanese swords, and the Ming Dynasty continued this. So the Ming and Qing era changdaos that were long, curved swords could have been influenced by Woku pirates (most of whom were Chinese and Korean and only some were Japanese), but they could have alternatively been influenced by curved Mongol swords or curved Japanese swords imported from Japan.
When I was stationed in Korea one of my KATUSA’s told me story about a naval commander who apparently sliced a Japanese Boat in half with one of those swords, he even showed me a statue of the guy!
Akuma, but when he punches it fires swords at you. Terrifying.
There's a video "How to Draw & Sheath a 150cm/60in Long Katana" on "Let's ask Seki Sensei | Online Katana Lessons" channel addressing certain questions from these three videos.
Nope. Also a katana is never 150cm long. So that is false from the get go. The sword Skall if on about is also Waaaay longer than 150cm.
@@Zathaghil What do you mean "Nope?" The man just said "there's a video" and your response is "no there isn't." 🤓
I was gonna point out the same video (again) since while seki sensei shows performance art ways to sheathe and unsheathe these swords, the way he does it works for swords that are longer than your arm span :)
@@Zathaghil "katana" is just the JP word for "single edged blade (of any length)", even if some group wants to categorize it, saying, this and that, it's semantics, it's like saying EU or US "chocolate" isn't really chocolate because it doesn't meet the other countries coco fat/solid standards.
Yeah
Great discussion Skall and Bug! Side you were asking about hilt ratios, while we see 1:3 and 1:4 in Europe quite often, the big sword measurements from General Qi’s manual said that it had a kilt of one Chi, and a blade length of 5 chi
From what I understand from this video. Skallagrim is agreeing that Lu Bu would beat Sephiroth because he can win in the bind. Do No Pursue Lu Bu.
I'm totally pursuing Lu Bu. Gotta get that achievement. :P
The calmer and more confident the foe, the more dangerous they are. The tense ones are compensating and always choosing easier targets.
@@MagmaZero4112 kingdom hearts 1 seph says otherwise. Lol
but, can Sephiroth outrun Red Hare?
Can anyone provide him with a decent challenge?
So I don't know if anyone has pointed this out before, but I don't think I've ever in any media seen Sephiroth draw or sheath his sword.
Actually I don't think the masamune has a sheath at all.
and in history often large swords like this, such as zweihanders among the landsknecht, were carried like a polearm and not in a sheath while on campaign
Yep! In no media is Masamune shown sheathed. After Nibelheim, Sephiroth can basically create Masamunes so sheathing is unnecessary, but even in the playable section of Rebirth, it just materializes.
yeah it's never had a sheath
The only time it it has I believe is in Kingdom Hearts, but that's mainly because they shrunk it a decent amount to make it more fair to fight against
@@SkullOfTheRaven i'm pretty sure the blade is even longer in kingdom hearts than in the ff games
Seki sensei shows in one of his videos how to draw a oversized nodachi without dropping the saya.
Not even three days and there's already a response video and a response to the response video
Like, I agree with Skall, and everybody was civil, but ain't RUclips just grand?
The funny thing is that this is actually what RUclips was supposed to be. Back when RUclips started you could actually make direct video replies to people's videos. Reply chains are the true way of RUclips.
@@DaShikuXI Oh, definitely. I just can't help but find the speed of it all humorous, especially in the context of the *significantly* less civil manner that response/counter response videos usually operate, and the reputation RUclips has developed for such antics.
The fact that this was all civil, intellectual and fun honestly makes it even funnier. THIS is how it's supposed to be done, y'all.
Fight,Fight,Fight,
Wait for the response, and Skall’s rightful response in turn, leading to a response to a response to a response to a response to a video.
@@Dan-ds8sf Response-ception
I saw Just A Bugs video right after you posted yours Skal, so apparently, the algorithm works once in a while, haha. Anyway, really glad you made a response!
Seki sensi basically said that these large swords were a 2 person ordeal. Which he mentions. But seki also shows how to use it as a single user.
Very good video from them.
This response seems well. But were in real niche territory with this sword. Its super hard to know niche stuff.
Of course THAT sword is real and classicly represented in all manner of books BUT Sephiroth's sword looks to be almost 9 ft. long.....50% longer than even that Ssangsudo.
It is a bit inconsistent depending on the media. Kingdom Hearts series exaggerates the length by at least a foot or two compared to his original artwork from FFVII which seems to be between 6 to 7 feet. The Remake also changes things up a bit by making Sephiroth taller and his sword a bit longer too.
@@coolyeh1017It was also massive in the FF7 movie. On the reboots the math came out to judge a bit over 7ft.
That's a long ass sword, especially to be one handing like Sephy does.
I've seen official art which, if you assume Sephiroth is 6ft tall, would mean the Masamune is over 14ft long. I've seen other official art which makes it look like it's not even 7ft as well. It really depends on which shot you're talking about as to how realistic the sword is. Maybe he's got the Wukong thing going with the extendable staff, except with more stabbity?
In Cheng Zongyou's late Ming long saber manual, the two-person draw is present as mentioned in the video, and also a partial draw, repositioning the hand on the spine of the dao, and finish drawing, placing the end of the handle into the non-dominant hand and finally putting your dominant hand back where it normally goes.
Swords. I mean out of all the final fantasy swords. It's the most realistic one our of all of them
kind offff, i feel like cloud’s sword is more realistic given the material could be created.
Hard edge, Mithril blade and Butterfly edge are all reasonable.
@@LiviaReaper No matter the material, the problem is size.
If you mean based off real design, and sober finish, so yeah. Still it's waved by a Super Sayan, and the steel is so strong it can slice through everything lol.
Definitely not, FF9 got some that are fairly realistic only got odd proportions to match the length of the oddly proportioned characters. FF12 got a lot of realistic weapons.
hmm... Sephiroth Masamune, according to estimations made from the remake, it would be around 220-230 centimeters, so it's actually not all that exagerated in lengh then? also, in the remake game, Sephiroth is around 200 cm long, so him being able to use the Masamune properly is actually in the realms of possibility and realism-ish? damn, did not expect that.
oh, and according to my original game manual, Sephiroth is 185 cm tall.
Sephiroth sword has very inconsistent lenght thruout media where it appears.
>Sephiroth sword has very inconsistent lenght thruout media where it appears.
It gets shorter in cold water.
The inconsistency is a big deal, because it's not too out there in terms of overall shape, so it can easily go from utterly ridiculous to "at the limits but still within the realm of real swords". Even on the handle example, some of those looked barely able to fit a two-handed grip while others are much longer.
@@joaoebordignon Imagine finding a way to quench this blade fully, fresh out of the forge lmao
> "so him being able to use the Masamune properly is actually in the realms of possibility and realism-ish?"
Well, the overall length may be kinda reasonable, but there's still the issue of the proportions. The handle is definitely too short for a blade of that length.
@@Starky_3D The 1997 version has absurd proportions, and even just for 1997 there is the polygon version, the cutscene version, the concept art version, and the official illustration versions, which differ significantly in proportions.
Discourse without being disagreeable - beautiful!
Great video Skall
First video of yours I've watched in a while admittedly and I really enjoy this sort of back and forth dialogue!
At the end of the day a fantasy weapon is just that, it obeys fantasy physics and magic and doesn't necessarily require itself to obey logic to have any fun factor but it's always entertaining and engaging to sit and wonder if we couldn't sit in the shoes of those wielding them and wonder if we ourselves couldn't also do so.
Thanks again Skall.
I saw in the comments that someone mentioned that Sephiroth is never shown drawing his sword and that there is no media showing a sheathe for it and this is as far as I can tell true but I was sure that there would be some answer to this and it appears that I may have been right. If you watch Advent Children and head to the moment of Sephs first appearance he doesn't initially have Masamune on him but then proceeds to materialize it out of thin air. From this I would surmise that he uses some form of magic or summoning to transport the sword.
Also from watching through the fight between him and Cloud in Advent Children I get the impression that the swords length is not always consistant. It's kinda hard to tell due to the action being so frantic but from what I can tell it seems to be about the length of his wingspan while he is actively fighting with it and then later in the fight when he has Cloud skewered on it it seems to be much longer. At that point it appears to be more like 1 1/2 times his wingspan or more. Even then he seems to have absolutely no trouble with leverage given that he is literally holding Cloud about a meter off the ground while he is skewered on the last foot or so of the blade. And he does that with one hand with no signs of difficulty. Seriously the guy must have some serious wrist strength.
In summary I believe that Masamune does not have a fixed length and that Sephiroth stores it elsewhere and summons it when he needs it.
"The thicker you make it the stiffer it is" 😏
- Albert Einstein
But mine just got stiffer without thickening
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just remember sephiroth wields it one handed 😉
9:10 that is EXACTLY, why i love the idea people have that you can't draw a longer sword off your back, like geralt has in the witcher.
theres many ways beyond what he does and is shown in game or whatever that you can make possible.
(I'm aware it was a spin around, and not on his back btw... 💀)
theres also a similar concept with kratos' axe on his back. its kinda just about the scabbard or.. latch, symbol, thing, being flexible or what nots yknow. 🧐
all ab the design and how you're able to safely manipulate it.
practicality is... well idk but you'd look badass pulling off what people for some reason think isn't doable. 🗿
Watched the original just a bug video. Definitely a fan. I'm welling up with joy that Skall responded. Such a grand community this grouping of sharp loving folk.
Maybe with sheathing the sword it would be easier if you had the reinforced bit of the blade? Then you could just hold that bit to start the sheathing shortening the required wingspan.
yeah i wonder why they don't do that
It boils down to: If your sword is shorter than your arm span you will be good. I doubt he could draw 210cm sword without droping the scabard or second hand help. It was informative thou I dint know Korea had 2hand swords and that overhead draw is nice technique.
does sephiroth even have a scabbard?
I wonder how practical the weapons from the Infinity Blade trilogy would be irl, especially the... well, [The Infinity Blade]
Now THAT is a name I have not heard… in a long time.
Asking the real hard questions here, ain’t ya?
Damn… I really miss the trilogy. Even if they were glorified Techdemos.
Thanks for the dono! I'm not familiar with the Infinity Blade series, but a quick look is telling me that they look VERY fantasy. :)
@@Skallagrim Now we can @ you, fool! Muahahaha
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Awesome video and really cool response from Just a Bug!
great seeing the interaction between you two!
I don't remember Sephiroth ever have a sheath...ever...but i digress. well done both!
“Sephiroths sword is not too long, watch…”
Pulls out a sword nowhere near the size of sephiroths sword
Probably the biggest he had on hand. I doubt its easy to get a life size Sephiroth sword, by the sound of it the video was made in a short time
Honestly, the sword in Just A Bug's video is roughly the size of Sephiroth's Masamune, depending on the version.
The length heavily varies, depending on which iteration of Sephiroth's design you're looking at. But compare the sword in the video to Sephiroth and his sword in FF7 for the PS1, FF7 Remake and Smash, for example, and you'll see that the length of the sword matches, with the exception of Sephiroth's concept art for FF7, where the Masamune is longer than in the game.
It's in Final Fantasy Dissidia and in the Kingdom Hearts series where the Masamune took on the ridiculous length that's shown in this video.
He shows as an example a 1.75 cm sword, but also mentions that they can reach up to 2.10 cm.
Love the video Skall!!
when you see an enemy flick your sword towards it the scabbard flies away and gives them a concussion
It's a fair real-world analogy, but it's still going to fall a bit short of the fantasy blade because.. well, it's fantasy hehe! :P Sephiroph's Masamune sword is described as being between 6-8 feet (182-244 cm)... similar to the Odachi, the Ssangsudo is typically 4-6 feet (121-182 cm), so at best it would be at the lowest end of estimates for Masamune. And there's still the whole matter of materials, weight, balance, rigidity, and usage -- all of which acts as a restraint on real-world blades, but can all be ignored in fantasy because... well, like I said, it's fantasy :P
Now tbf he did mention that Ssangsudo can be up to 210 cm, which falls well within the masamune range
2:23 justabug says 210cm at the top end, so 6.89 feet, the problem really is that Sephiroth's height is inconsistent with anything between 6'1" and 6'8" most put him at 6'1", so about 7'1" for Masamune tip to tip? 215.9cm, 5'9" is the average for a South Korean male, it kinda isn't stupidly huge for him, now i'm confused, a relatively realistic anime sword?? the world is ending the world is ending, run for the animu tiddies, i mean hills
@@MrTrilbe5.9 is the average nowadays. People in the past were shorter on average.
@@budgetcommander4849 not as much as people think and even in that time their would be the odd 5'9" person
@@SkullOfTheRaventhose ultra long nodachis we're ceremonial most of time
In the last video I thought that the best way to wield blade as long as masamune is to wield it as a pike and ignoring the handle
Akuma can split mountains and sink islands with his fists. A sword would instantly shatter unless it was made with exotic materials or enchanted.
Yeah, and that's often the conceptual problem with weapons and super strength... they need to be able to withstand those excessive forces.
@@Skallagrim Disregard metallurgy. It's time to embrace bioengineered flesh weapons.
@@Novestador that's what makes Nemesis such a BASED (and hot) man
@@Skallagrim or well, the body and super strength. If the largest human had even gorilla or Rhino strength they'd have to be super careful about how they used it. If you could jump 3 stories, that's still a 3 story fall.
@@NovestadorIt that can make magic super soldiers, I'm sure can make magic super weapons.
Masamune definitely had something going, because Tifa the girl who can punch with the force of a nuke could barely lift it.
On ways to lighten and stiffen a blade:
embossing and ribbing (like fullering in reverse) can also stiffen a thin sheet of steel.
Imagine if you took a sheet of steel that's just a few mil thick, then bent it back and forth to make a rounded zig-zagging cross section of the blade: so it's mostly empty space.
Better yet, micro fullering: a thick blade with countless tiny slots, off set in a brick pattern, or tiny holes in a hex pattern, most of the way through the blade, with counterparts deliberately out of alignment coming in from either side so that they're not touching (preventing "accidental skeletonization").
you could remove a very large portion of the mass of a blade; which is what's being "pulled" down by gravity to make the weapon sag. and _increasing_ stiffness as well in the manner of a fuller, but likely more effectively than a fuller would.
Sometimes ya gotta chop three horses in half at the same time.
War happens sometimes.
With a sword that long it would be easier to draw it the way Haohmaru does. Pull the blade out slightly then just swing it and let the sheath fly off somewhere. Definitely wouldn't have been able to do that in the shop though lol.
Haohmaru has quite a way to sheath it too. Throw the sword up in the air, hold out the sheath, and hope for the best.
I'm actually glad your noticed what I did in his video that the sword was a little shorter then the one you showed and from my understanding the one he has in the game great response tho and really informative
The extended collar would allow for a longer sturdier blade,you said it yourself ,it would also allow you to shealth a longer blade theoretically, so i think the argument is more about if its practical in combat and how long can you get the blade until the structure is compromised.
Shining example of how to respond with grace and civility, from both of you. We love to see it.
This was a great pair of responses =u=
Learned new things, and I'm happy now in knowing that my own culture's got its' own HEMA going on.
ALSO ALSO, this may be impractical but this reminds me of the nodachi forms I'd watched by chance where the blade itself was far longer than the user, and she seemed to simply hold further up the blade in a pincer grip to sheathe/draw the blade after initially drawing as much as she could from the handle. It seemed to add a second or two but it seemed pretty seamless. Not sure if you'd see this comment but it's still a great thing to know about.
I love how healthy and respectful skallagrims response is! Definitely a breath of fresh air compared to some of the drama in the community lately.
It’s meant for range, but used up close….
How uncivilized
I love it when people can have a respectful discussion about a topic they both like instead of a petty pissing contest.
The length of the Otachi Trou tachi used by Magara Naotaka in the 16th century, which is in the possession of Atsuta Shrine, is 221cm.
Yoooo glad to see Justabug get some attention
Just a Bug has a great channel. Very informative and sword nerdy.
i rember seeing a short about simillar length swords being used as perfonce props in japan and the trick they use to unsheathe it is they pinch the blade to get the extra inch or two. they usually do that part when facing away from the viewers to conceal it and keep up the illusion.
Oh hell yeah! I've been hoping for this!
You would think that linking the reaction vid you’re reacting to and skipping the bulk of the vid would be common courtesy. Honestly quite the breath of fresh air to see a RUclipsr show such respect. Even if I’d expect nothing less from skall and the communities he engages with.
Yeah I expected Skall would go through the entire video ripping it to shreds like Shad does.
10:11 No way that sword is 7 feet long, in that image it's twice his size, that's like a 12ft - 14ft long sword. And I don't think there were swords that long in history.
Possible steathing technique if you have the extended collar on a blade exceeding wingspan: grip at the collar just enough to put the tip in, the let the weight of the sheath slide it down onto the blade. Most likely by holding it vertically upwards. Just brainstorming here.
Also one thing that just came to mind as is possibly closer to the mentality behind Sephiroth's sword: Cavalry swords. For example Polish winged hussars used a cavalry sword that had a one handed grip - for obvious reasons, aka their other hand being occupied - but a blade length that was enough to hit infantry with, so it reached almost do the ground level. Considering that Sephiroth often fights huge monsters or he himself is in flight when swinging it, the design could be a sort of "aerial cavalry/polearm" fitting sword. Just a random thought but maybe worth considering.
Babe, wake up, skallagrim dropped a sephiroth sword video.
"Akuma with a sword", he already exists. It's Zodd the Immortal.
good video , good length
Another great video.
In regards to the sheath... we never see Sephiroth carrying his sword sheathed. It looks like he always has just the sword alone in his hand... when it doesn't disappear into hammerspace anyway. ^^
can't wait for part 7 🙏
My take was that Skall was talking about that particular replica in the shop, and not a piece of artwork drawing. The proportion of that replica looks fine. Drawings can be any length. Nonetheless, great that it's cleared up 🙂
Please look up Kojiro Sasaki who fought against Mushashi Miyamoto with a nodachi called the washer man's pole. Mushasi carved out his boat oar to make a longer weapon than Kojiro. Apparently Kojiro has a technique called the swallow cut. Kojiro might not really exist. Sephiroth and Cloud Strife are based on Kojiro and Cloud. I have seen a lot a videos discussing if the Masamune can exist but they never discuss the historical basis for the weapon. You can even say that the buster sword is based on Mushashi's wooden weapon carved from his boat oar. This channel should really discuss the duel between Mushasi and Kojiro because those 2 were using oversized weapons that seems to be from fantasy.
Me: Time for a Skallagrim video, I suppose
Skall: *mic breathing*
8:05 If a sword is too long to sheathe, you simply hold some part of the blade. As you discussed the historical swords would have had a not-sharp bit (whether sharpened or actually covered) there, so that would be easy and safe to dod.
I just love the fact that two lovers of HEMA / HKMA are having a respectful discussion about their passion. We need more of this online.
Greatswords are great swords, so I am here to watch.
I didn't know there was another name for a long twohandedsword in Japan that exceeds the Nodachi. Gotta have to research that for "Greatswords around the world".
Even a rigid Greatsword will have a flopp. The whole mass is working on the blade and it always bends to some extend toward the Tip. Sometimes you can't see it immediately but you can feel it in your hands.
I agree with you in terms of proportions. Leverage is very important on a long sword and you will always have to handle it in a way that it doesn't tire your arms. A longer handle really helps. Try holding a Longswords with one hand as down as you can towards the pommel. It will feel strange with this thrown off balance and leverage.
I like your videos since 2014 or so, please keep up the good work
In regards to drawing the sword, the Ming dynasty treatise "dandao faxuan" also talks about a method where you would first draw out what you can with the handle, then grabbing the bare blade to pull out the sword the rest of the way. Jack Chen from Chinese Longsword has lots of videos on these long East Asian swords.
or just draw it out a little bit, then spin around and use centrifugal force to force the sheath away!
Yeah, it's a single-edged sword so there's really not much stopping you from manipulating the blade if you truly NEED to draw the sword. Doing this casually is annoying because of the potential for finger marks though.
@@Ithirahad Given half-swording is a thing you could do it with double edge swords too. Just don't slip!
The Sephiroth sword is definitely way longer than the two handed sabers in historical example. The Chinese, Korean, and Japanese two handed swords are all pretty similar to the lengths of European two handers. Not too many examples I can find of them being used in combat except for the Ming Dynasty era against the Woku pirates, except they also call their halberds the same name. Han dynasty two handed jians exist in museums as well, but appear to be more like execution swords rather than practical weapons. Either way, I'd think the troops carrying them would unsheathe them right before going into battle and then just carry in on their shoulder.
Seph's Masamune, huh? I definitely didn't think about something else when I read the title.
I love your cursor with the blade and hand lol, can I get a link
The long blade collar he mentioned would make sheathing the sword easier, since you would have another foot worth of safe area to grab the blade.
Illustrations in old manuscripts depicting similar swords show the swordsmen in pairs, helping one another to unsheath their swords, with each swordsman holding his partner's scabbard.
Sephiroth manifests his sword out of thin air for a reason
Oh, that is why we are discussing a character claiming to be one of the ten emanations of YHWH from Kabbalah (Hebrew Mysticism)! Yes, the terrible swift sword of the LORD would not be human-wieldable.
How to sheathe Sephiroth's sword: Grab the back of the blade in a spot that lets you tip it in, and slide it in like you're putting a pole into a sleeve. If you're sheathing the thing, ya don't gotta be fancy about it because the fight's already over, so you can take your time with it.
Watched that video the other day, I was wondering if you would reply lol. You forgot to show the Nagamaki! I know you did a video of one and couldn't work out what to do with it lol. I have one, love it, worth another look I think, you didn't seem to have noticed it's strikingly unusual blade geometry, when you look at the blade from a 'bird's eye view' i.e. the profile of the back edge of the blade you will see it's shaped/forged like an arrow giving it a thick armour piercing tip! It's 50% blade and 50% wrapped handle/hilt, the Saya is very distinctive too, has a fishtail end to it, no idea why.
It's interesting thing to see that sword collar thing on korean sword. Because, first Turco-Mongolic sabers have this kind of extra part too. Althoug it mostly disappeared through history, you can still see that part on Ottomans' yatağan sword.
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The Norimitsu Odachi, a colossal sword forged during Japan's feudal era, has long fascinated historians and enthusiasts alike. Its immense size-over 12 feet in length and weighing around 14.5 kilograms.
This was made in the 1400s in Japan. It's available to be seen at a shrine there. I think there's even a painting of a guy holding it and three servants holding the sheath it is unwieldy, but at least it was made during the Middle ages world and not during the modern world.
one thing that reactors on youtube mention only briefly and brush it off but is actually the most important thing about fantasy big swords is the user . he/she is also fantasy . he has enhanced strenght. once you put that back in the equation , the swords make sense. like your joke about Akuma.. that guy could use that sephirot sword with similar techniques you would use a glaive and it would be amazing.
Oh I hadn't thought about that but yeah, the more spread your arms are on the grip the more counter-leverage you have
Oh damn I’ve seen both of these videos now :0 when they dropped.
In terms of re-sheathing really long Nodachi/Odachi. I've that there are historical accounts of having the sheath sitting along the length of a horse during transportation, so it could be drawn by someone dismounted as they were more so designed as anti-cavalry weapons.
Though its more for trick drawing, Seki Sensei did demonstrate that with a bit of clever hip work and by grabbing the naked blade you could draw a very long blade and sheath it with style.
I tend to look at sephiroth's sword like an oversized calvary weapon. The guy got wings after all.
It was entertaining and informative, i allways was thinking that Sephiroth had a oversized Nodachi or three katanas weldet together or Something like it...
But that this Blade has a historical Inspiration is neat and nice to know. 😸👍
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You've reacted to Shogos videos before and his teacher has a solid video about drawing nodachi, I think, that involves using the blade in an interesting way
at first, watching this channel to see cool swords and techniques. but the longer i watch, the more i actually learn to think realistically and reasonable from you looking at things
I think we can see some of the techniques as to how the blade would be used in a great Korean action film on Netflix called "Revenger". I imagine that the sword wielded in that film is on the shorter side compared to the blade shown here, but the essence of the movement is probably quite similar I'd imagine.
Sephiroth's sword is a reverse blade as well
And it's supposed to be 8-9 feet long and he never has a sheath on it
It may be a bit mean to compare youtubers, but thank you Skall for staying straight and true to what to be expected of your content. Unlike that AI bro sellout.
"Just about my wingspan..."
I thought Metatron was the one with wings.
the William wallace sword in the william wallace monument in Stirling looks pretty heavy, the offered reproductions, but it was thousands of dollars, lol
Fast reaponse to a fast response. Great video by that guy, btw. The history and use of the store was fascinating. It was a pirate sword used by Korean pirates against the Chinese! (Though the design was originally Japanese.)
No, he mentions Japanese pirates against the Chinese, the wokou
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Can confirm that in anime, proportions have never been a complaint
Wonder if a scabbard could be used as a throwing weapon, swinging your sword so fast that it launches the scabbard at the enemy.
youre intesity is hilarious XD
-8:40.. ahhhaaa..the buddy system. Makes sense. Not all swordslingers were loners. Many had friends..that they occasionally or regularly traveled with.
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For the very little I know, there exists Nodachi that are over 6 or 8 meters long but are and always will be for cerimonial show, not use. In LEGENDS those were used. So, in a way, Sephiroth's Masamune isn't fantasy for existing but for the fact that he actually uses it.
I too do possess a Nodachi about 1,80cm high in total and I can kind of use it but I never had the chance to actually practice any form with that kind of sword...just saw some videos about it.
There is a Japanese sword even longer than 野太刀 (nodachi ) - it is called 大太刀 (oodachi).
The main problem of the masamune is that it has a normal to a bit long katana handle and the rest is all blade length, there is no real life counterpart because it would be prone to breaking, also unseathing it with said lenght and proportion would be a lot more dificult than the blade shown in the video wich has a way longer handle to blade ratio, with more curvature.
already watched, waited for Your answer.