Getting Electrical Service to My New Shop
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I'd like to recommend to your viewers that before they even build the foundation to call their local power company.
I do for a living the same thing your inspector does.
Folks may have their "ideal" location for a new home or shop picked out...until they find out exactly what it's going to cost to get electric to that location.
I would assume that most power companies will gladly meet with customers before hand.
I know the one I work for does.
Awesome that you highlighted the patented (Patent 8,800,967 B2) Southwire pre-installed pulling heads. As a co-inventor it made me smile. It was suggested in the comments to add lubricant to make the pull easier. Do not add lubricant when installing Southwire pre-lubed cable. With Southwire pre-lubed cable, adding pulling lubricant can actually make it harder to pull. This is based on the hundreds of pulls we made during development. Thanks!
Hey that's awesome, you did a great job! I was really impressed with the detail in the pulling head and the fact Southwire does it up for the customer like that.
If only people would listen, right? "Eh, they don't know what they're talkin' about, just squirt some soap on the damn thing, that's how we always do it!"
That arrangement looks somewhat more costly than 30m of nylon ski rope...
Then again, we hardly ever use conduit underground. (We use PVC SWA PVC)
Hey Dave, that's cool man! Looks like one of those simple "why hasn't someone thought of this before" inventions.
I noticed they were dragging the cable through dirt while feeding it into the conduit. Doesn't the dirt act like an abrasive and increase friction inside the conduit?
As an underground high voltage lineman in the Chicagoland area, I was glad to see you put your feed in conduit. I do this work every day and many times wires get direct buried.
I've just stumbled upon you shop build. I'm jealous on so many levels. You ride dirt bikes, are into metal and wood working, and have built a dream custom shop divided for both hobbies?!? Your hubby is one lucky guy! I love your involvement and ultimate decision making in the build, and admire the aesthetics in your decision. I look forward to seeing your use of this shop!
Absolutely Amazing .... Not just the shop, but everything... The projects, the videos, the home/work balance, the shop, and the skills and insight. No one can know everything about everything but obviously some people can know a lot about many things to be effective.
Plugging everything in must of been the best moment ever. You built your own shop pretty much, you only used the right people when needed but you still built your own shop. I bet you cant describe how happy you were when you finished. Im so happy for you April. Love the build, love all your work! Please stay amazing.
April, I live in the country in Central Texas and I invested in a Kohler 30 kW generator for my house. We're at the "end of the line" when it comes to power, so we lose power frequently anytime something would happen "up the line". We chose propane as the fuel for our generator and it has already been a wonderful investment. It is a "whole house generator", so when the power from our power company stops, the Kohler generator comes on within ten seconds and our entire house has power. We've had it for over two years now and it has just been wonderful so far. It may be something for you to consider since it looks like you are "out in the boonies", so to speak...
Ma’am, ( for those outside of Texas this is a sign of respect not age and how we refer to the ladies)
Congratulations!!!! Glad you got power. The trades are an amazing group of people that are not thought about until we need them. Our son is a lineman for our local power company and they work in any weather to ensure we have our creature comforts.
enjoy the fruits of your labor. you and your husband’s team work ( and all your friends who helped out) are always a hoot to watch.
Retired contractor here. Been following your build and am really impressed with the quality of information you have passed on to us. Maybe a few quibbles here and there no actual bad info.
This vid had the first new thing you have shown me. I have never before seen the looped and crimped ends on the service wires. Those are cool. Could have used those earlier this year on my cousins house.
Are you a California girl? I noticed the SLO and Santa Cruz t-shirts.
I've followed your build from the slab! It was so great to see you get power into your building. Congratulations! I've enjoyed every minute of it. Best of Luck!
April, great video, as always. I happen to be employed by the company that built the pressure digger that drilled the hole and the derrick that set the pole so I guess I had a very small part in getting electricity to your shop. You do an awesome job on the videos explaining and showing your process and are a truly great example for women who want to do similar work. Thanks for being on RUclips and deciding to do what you do.
Getting power to a project was always my first phone call for that job. But you learn that after many years of needing power for construction. You did an awesome job of explaining the requirements and showing each step....and yes, anyone needing this done should follow your instructions. WELL DONE! ....13
If the temperature in your area is anything like around the Houston area the A/C would be the first thing I would power up. Glad to hear you now have power, let the creating begin.
This was so cool to see. I found your channel over the weekend and watched a few random videos until I saw you built this shop. I binged everything for like 4 hours and just loved the whole journey. Thanks for making these videos!
So glad you finally got power. I know the pains it can be for utilities. I worked outside for the phone company for 38 years and remember days upon days of cable pulling .
Mike
So by this time you ar now a multytasking overall certified woodworker. Electrician. Concrete contractor. Machine specialist. Jibsite general manager. Farmhouse and shpo builder genius. Omg you are totally awesome. Hello from puerto rico.
Congratulations. My shop had a power pole with transformer within 40ft. I am so glad I didn't have to do this to get power there.
My total was only about $1k with panel and basic shop wiring. I am still setting up propane for an overhead heater. Such Fun!
And Cody, that was a good one... LOL
My wife and I are looking at building a house here in Utah. Your video was an eye opening . It has helped us research and start to ask the right questions. Thanks fellow maker....
April is Amazing active about her job, I loved it everything you did, watching from 🇬🇧
I was an electrician years ago in L.A. Never had to go through a process this involved. But I have pulled plenty of feeder wire through risers and terminate both ends. We'd typically mount the meters on the side of the building, and feed in from there. Pulling 3/0 wire (200A panels) through 2" conduit was always a b**ch. The stuff doesn't like to bend, and we didn't have a company like Southwire to make nice heads for the wire assembly. So we had to tape everything together, just about like they did here, and used something we called "gorilla snot" to lube it all up. We usually used "fish tape" (a flattish steel cable rolled up in a plastic case) to hook all of our pull wires onto. Hard work.
yep lots of hard work, so I appreciate the guys efforts a lot.
Not meant to pull anything but pull tape with a fish tape. I've ran into so many fiberglass fish with no ends on them because someone has decided to pull a ton of cables with the poor thing and yanked the end off.
What a great video, April! Anyone building a shop or house in the country needs to see this video. Thank you for your diligence and attention to detail.
Satisfying! Binge watched from the very beginning!
Quick tip if you ever have to do this again. If you can some times instead of running the fish tape you can seal a shop vac to one end of the conduit and tape a grocery bag to the pull string on the other. Turn on the vacuum and it will usually suck the string through.
Around here, it's not nearly as rocky in most places. Where it is, it's mostly limestone which is somewhat softer. I mostly see the Ditch Witch used for trenching, which is more like a huge chain saw. This wheel cutter looks pretty awesome. Congrats on getting this big job done!
Congratulations April! Pulling the wires into the panel box is a feeling of victory. Rock on!
Nice, We used a 12v small winch to pull our wires. our run was about 600 feet we just used a big spool driven by the winch, worked very good
Love your presentation style and editing.
A simple method for running a pull line through conduit is to use a shopvac. Tie a mason line around a wadded up paper towel and use the shopvac to suck it through the conduit. Limit the length of mason line because the paper towel will be in the shopvac before you can turn it off. Then connect the mason line to the pull line and connect that to the wire to be pulled.
These are wonderful 'background' tutorials for all of us who've either gone through, or will go through such an 'adventure'.
Many times, we don't see the 'Oh, I learned (half-way in) that I should have have done this or asked about that.
Wonderful Video, April. Thank You.
-- Alan
procrastinators learn things the hardest way and go through more difficult hurdles, which is why its best to preplan Everything upon initial planning and make said arrangements ahead of time so the schedules can be readjusted as needed if one task required before the next step is not prearranged or can be done sooner than later due to the (sub)contractors tasks schedule
Dang what a long process! And you had such a good attitude throughout. Looking forward to seeing all the projects that will come out of your new shop.
: ) Thanks! Nothing to be done about it, but move through the steps, so might as well have a good attitude about it.
Yes
For the same job on our farm back in 2010, we lay the wire in the trench first and then slipped the conduit over the conductors. That was my job, while our electrician made off the connections.
I worked for a utilities contractor for several yrs .. I ran those rock saws as well as directional boring..95% of our work was power and fiber optic..long distance. 6 & 8 inch duct.
Was having "flashbacks" to my years in the oilfield when building remote production facilities that required rural electric service. And you're right it can be a long and complicated process to get power to remote areas. There were many complicated installs but the one that was uniquely expensive was a site littered with small and HUGE boulders that required $100,000 worth of explosive services. But blowing up rocks is quite satisfying.
Wish you the best. What a journey !!!!!. I am sure all of us who followed you are super excited for you too. Enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks
Southwire!!!! Company I worked for, our building is across the street from Southwire in Rancho Cucamonga, CA...Nice job on the power run!!
Well done indeed. I watched all of your constructions videos up to this point, but only commented here. Great work. You must be so proud and contented. Superb. I'm not planning on building anything in the near future (probably never) but I sure learned many things. Thank You.
Yeah, San Luis Obispo CA! I used to live right outside SLO town in Los Osos a small town on the coast. Love that city and the area around it, so many pleasant memories. You obviously visited and liked it as well.
Just a tip for the next time you lay conduit. An easy way to get a pull rope ran in the conduit after the conduit has already been ran is to tie a plastic bag on one end of the pull rope and then using a vacuum on the other end you can suck the bag and pull rope all the way through while having a person on both ends one to watch for the bag and rope, the other to make sure the rope is feeding properly. Granted you didn't have electricity there so you would of needed to use a battery operated vacuum, run an extension cord from your main house or use a generator.
We used this trick at my old job some 20+ years ago for running networking cable. The longest distance we ran was about 6 miles through conduit, and then shortest was 20-30 feet. Although the longer the distance the more powerful vacuum you need, we actually broke the 6 mile pull into multiple chunks as there were underground vaults it went through along the way.
out of all of the parts of this project this was the one that I was looking forward to the most. It just seems so daunting because of all the subcontractors. Broke it down perfectly April, thanks
Now that was a lot of work and money to get power to your shop, now I know what it's going to take to power my shop, thank you for all the info April.
she got a bargain price, some areas can be more costly
I love the celebrations. Such a happy go lucky person on camera.
I too love the attention to detail. Great video.
Great tip on running another pipe while trenching.... I ran a 240v line underground a few years back to my garage & now I wish I had done another!
thank you for sharing the idea April
Congratulations on the complete build of YOUR SHOP!! You definitely deserve it!! Can't wait to see what you will make in there. 🥂
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for recommending that people run extra conduit when they trench for cable/fiber/communications!
I know you are beyond excited to have power to your shop! It has been so interesting to follow the process of building your shop and I have gotten so many good ideas from you! Thanks for sharing your experiences with us!
WoW!!! One needs patients to get everything done as you did. Glad I am ?NOT going through that now. You seem very happy.
You have lots to be thankful for.
The workshop needs a lot of power. Everything was done properly. Good luck!
It's good to have a higher amp panel/wires but in reality it's just her and she will probably never be running more then one machine at a time. It doesn't have A/C, Electric Heat,Dryer,Oven,Water heater ETC and the lights are LED. So there is hardly any draw on that panel beside the tiny peak power needed when she starts her tools.
In one of the early build videos she talked about the possibility of adding AC to one side of the shop in the future. She's also got some decent size machines like her 240V welder which does draw some real power.
Of course you need a panel large enough to connect all the circuits... pro tip... a 60 amp pan aint gona have enough breaker locations....
it is feasible the way she's going that she could be running a plasma CNC in one room, a fume extractor, a Wood CNC in the other room with dust collection and large welder, along with lighting and potentially AC in one or both room. Wouldn't have been a lot cheaper to do less power so she's got plenty of overhead if/when needed.
I am so happy for you, as this has been an exciting journey for you and Cody. Thank you for taking us along on this journey with you. It's been very interesting.
Your videos are the best. Now that Cody's back is rested and for that world-famous "next time..." Inside the the shop, when pulling the wire, position your tractor's loader bucket above the height of the panel. Attach a large diameter pulley to the bucket and run the pull rope up through the pulley and back down. Then, you could even use your 4x4 runner to pull the rope. It would save Cody's back because he would have been pulling down, instead of up.
KEEP UP YOUR GREAT WORK!
AWESOME!!!! So happy for you, April. Looking forward to all the stuff you are going to build. Blessings.
Alright, April got power! Yes I'm very familiar with the process as 2 of my brothers are electrical contractors while my other brother is a general and I'm a job superintendent in my younger days so have been thru it. You are so right to get them (Edison) involved as early as you can. Hope you enjoy it out in the boonies April!
Excellent project. Never seen such a gigantic blade in my life. A pleasure to view
April , I have truly enjoyed the Whole process of watching you and your Family build this studio/Shop. Your walk through narration is spot on and when you find a mistake you walk us back through it. very nice. I'm in fort worth and hope you did move to far away. I looked on your web site and could not find the break down on the cost mention in the video. thanks and look forward to some great projects.
What a complicated process just to get power to your shop. I was lucky. My power was routed to a new panel in my shop from the power company's meter on a hill just above my shop. My electrician did all the work. Later on we put solar panels up above the meter so my shop and house are solar powered. That's something you might consider, especially for your shop.
Nice work and great detail. It’s always fun dealing with Code and power company. Couple of suggestions or questions.
1. It’s way easier to stick a rag and string through conduit using a vacuum or shop vac, then Use as pull string
2. Someone mentioned pulling compound, amen to that
3. Did you use alox on your terminal lugs? Prevents corrosion and promotes flow
Congratulations on having full power now. Love your San Louis Obispo shirt. I spent five years there getting my EE degree. Great school.
Thanks for posting this. I'll be building a new shop in November so I will have to deal with similar issues.
We would use a hammer and wrap the mule tape around the handle a few times to pull. We could pull, then allow a little slack and slide the hammer down for the next pull; that way we didn't have to get a new bite every time but used the handle like a capstan so to speak.
What a big job. Happy you dont know before you start? Have a great summer in your shop
I will probably never have a need to do this. Not sure why I found this video so interesting. I was hooked! Really enjoy all your videos and watching the progress. Thanks for sharing
Congratulations from West Australia on having power act the wall outlet's.
Now your project's can really start April😉😁👍👍👍👍
I am so impressed by you, taking on such a big project and finishing it with what appears to be relative ease. It makes me jealous. If I could only have half of your skills I would be over the moon. Keep up the good work. I'll make sure to watch your other projects and try to learn just a little bit from them. Cheers April.
The cost for this varies a lot around the country. Here in NW Missouri we are members of the local electric coop. When I built my 40'x60' shop about 8 years ago the cost of bringing in power was ZERO. They trenched in the new high voltage line, (all the power around here is underground), including boring under my asphalt driveway and placed a second transformer about 50' from the shop. Then they trenched in the 200 amp service from the new transformer to the shop and hung the meter on the outside wall of the shop about 5' front the breaker box I'd installed. In total the new line they trenched was about 700 feet. The only cost to me was having an electrician come out and make the final connection from the meter to the breaker box. After that, there is an $8 per month meter or service charge on top of whatever power I use.
Building new shop myself. Next to home but needed to run a new 200 amp service to shop. Rules in every State and Utility are different. Here in GA the utility must provide power to my structure if above ground. Poles cable etc to the meter location. But we had to clear ROW. Would do underground but we would pay for cable,conduit and trench and still clear the ROW. So cost difference for me was approx $4500
Great video and explanations.
Great Information Mrs Wilkerson, the big blade is way better than a pick ax. Voltage Regulators may help your electric bill.
I loved the San Luis Obispo shirt, since I used to live in Grover Beach, just a few minutes away. Congrats on finishing your shop.
I liked the big saw of your favourite contractor. We never have too many saws!
Thanks for shareing, April! Its always exciting when you can roll up your extension cords.
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In Nairobi - Kenya (AFRICA), Electricity installation is $60 when an additional pole is involved. :)
Wow!! I found your channel on videos way back building small things and then here I find you're building a GIANT workshop. I binged watched all the workshop build vids last night. Good on you for sticking to it and making it big! Love the videos about working with your Dad. I'm the same way, I had no interest when I was young even though my Dad was a carpenter and worked construction for over 20 years of his life (He even built a shop in the back yard when I was in high school and wanted me to help but I blew him off to go play with my friends). It's true your kids can eventually come around ;)
Nice shirt! I lived and worked in SLO for almost 15 years.
Done it twice. Similar experiences both times. Underground feed cable is available that only needs conduit above the ground. If you can use it in your jurisdiction is will save you a bit of money.
It adds a lot watching the progress along with following along on Instagram, quite a process
You are such an inspiration! Love watching your journey from your garage to your shop, you’ve come a long way. Keep up the great work. Patiently waiting for the next.
Quick tip, next time you have to make a long pull use what is called Polywater. It eventually evaporates over time, safe for all cables and is as slick as snot (We call it Polysnot because it looks just like it, gross I know). It will eliminate most of the friction from the cables dragging along the pipe and pull a lot easier. Next in your case would be to use a guard. Looks like a 90 cut long ways in half. You put it inside the conduit you are pulling and it lets you just hook it to a (tractor, lawn mower, several people, etc...) to pull it in one nice and easy pull without the pull rope or mule tape cutting into the conduit. Congrats on getting the shop up and running!
Finnaly got power, now you can make beautiful things! Congrats!!
Congrats April! Huge accomplishment
Even though being on the other side of the world interestingly we have many similar time-consuming steps for connecting power in the countryside.
Have a safe Power!
Congratulations on the power! Very helpful when you described every step and why! Thank you!
I'm an amateur woodworker but now you got me dreaming of building a shop in the DISTANT FUTURE..☺
Really happy for you, April. Thanks for all the background info. That must be a big relief to have that behind you. "Rock" on!
Oh yes, huge relief! : )
Wow! What a journey. Glad you made it this far and look forward to future projects.
I have stuck around the entire shop build since framing. Your making some great progress.
: ) Thanks
Thanks for taking us along for the ride, sure is interesting. Like the Instagram stories too. You keep it up girl, be safe.
Wrapping cables or ropes around tools or bars make the pulling of them so much easier...
It's not often my jaw drops....but that rock excavating weel thing...wow!!
: D haha right?!
Yipee, we got power !!!
Congratulations, can be issues making a new power set-up in Texas with different contractors and electric company's, you were lucky.
Another cool video! Just an FYI, check the inside of your service panel for torque specs on the lugs.
james conrad --- Yes, I agree. That could be a future problem (look at video at 9:48) if they aren't tight enough....been there, done that.
james conrad Exactly right. Don't guess at all April.
I'm a licensed electrician. Use a Torque Wrench with an Allen key and torque it to spec. Your panel will have an appropriate sticker with lug torque listings.
Blooper at the end was great. Wow that saw, impressive!
Those trenching saws are kind of a 'fun' thing. Once got to see a similar rig start digging while parked on very loose sandy soil while trying to get through a tough bedrock material a few inches below. It was a neat lesson in relative friction values as the cutting wheel caught and dragged the whole machine a few feet forward into the building... The contractor later upgraded the rig to a contra-rotating blade from what I understand.
I like the way you are narrating your current videos.
Wow , that was a lot more complicated than I would have imagined. your shop looks amazing by the way . Best of luck in it.
First off: OMG that blade gave zero shits about the rock!!! Lol! Secondly, I love that bundled cable from Southwire. Having done a lot of electrical, I can tell you how helpful those details are.
I'm so excited for you and the videos to follow! I think we have all been waiting for this video announcement.
Yaaaay girl!!! So happy your dream is coming true. Now, let’s see some of those amazing projects you got stored up! Time to jam on April!
April so HAPPY for you way to go Cody is the Man!
Congrats on finally getting you power! Can’t wait to see a new shop tour video! Best of luck to you.
Awesome! Crazy how much the power company charges. When I had power run to my shop it was completely free.... only cost is my monthly bill. This requires setting two posts and removing two old posts. I am very close to the road so that could be part of it...plus I live in a different state ;) Your shop is amazing!
Oye vey!! What a process! The Power Co. doesn’t make it easy (or cheap) do they!?! Congrats on finally completing this critical step in your shop build April. And nice t-shirt! Thanks for representing my ‘hood!