Thing is that IF Rockstar DID use their propriatry inhouse Game Engine it would be very close to the og gameplay mechanics but we have to settle with using UE4 because of much more advanced graphics
@@mayuravirus6134 they didn't even bother testing the most simple things, if they did they would notice lots of bugs, they just passed the project to a small mobile programmer group without supervising them
1:40 the camera rotation of planes still locked in horizontal axis only You cant look up or down in a plane This is a major issue since release... they should fix this quickly
the biggest mistake rockstar did with these game was allowing grove street games to make this remaster despite there being over a decade of complaining of how bad their ports were
This update is not done by R*. It's done by Video Games Deluxe, the same company that made the VR version of LA Noire. They are definitely far more competent than Grove Street Games.
R* own grove street games. so technically they did remaster it... you can bet R* knew all-along what was going on with their money making baby... it's just when companies do a sh*t job. they smartly hide behind another name.
R* own grove street games (or whatever you wanna call them). so technically they did remaster it... you can bet R* knew all-along what was going on with their money making baby... it's just when companies do a sh*t job. they smartly hide behind another name.
rockstar own so-called 'grove street games'. they just hid behind that name so they could scam us... you can bet they knew all-along what was going on with their little cash making baby. they were out to make a quick buck.
some people might say all is not fixed but for me, if this is not their first patch and if they continue to improve the game by patching everything then it's a step in the right direction
1:37 i cant believe they didnt fixed this one crucial feature yet: THE CAMERA ROTATION FOR PLANES IN GTA SAN ANDREAS LOCKED TO HORIZONTAL ONLY You cant see above and below you. The funny thing is, flying cars don't have that problem
@@Renigen yeah well... Its a long way for them to make me spent a buck on this trilogy. This is like a car that had a bad generation, more than a facelift to convince. 💀
It's waste of the resources when you think about it, They can hire anyone to work for this project remaster yet they choose someone who only makes Mobile games just so that they can make remaster in cheap budget. But utimately it became a big loss for Rockstar they had to spend extra amount of resources and use their own home employees to rework this game.
Tbh I ended up buying it for my PS5 & honestly I don’t regret it & this is someone who played GTA SA on PC for over a decade 🤷🏾♂️ not saying the PC version is inferior now but for those with consoles or those who don’t want/can’t set up mods on PC this is a pretty good option
This whole Definitive Edition was a mistake. The game looks goofy as hell even with the "fixes". The graphics make the game look like those janky bottom of the barrel games sold on Steam for under $2.
Yesterday I finished Vice City "Definitive Edition" on Switch. After its release in 2021, as a huge fan of the original trilogy, I promised myself that I would never buy the new version. But after the last patch I changed my mind. It's true that the game is a bit too expensive, but the "classic lighting" mode does the job. I didn't experience any major bugs during my playthrough, although I did encounter some funny situations. The game also crashed once. It's a pity that the game didn't look like this when it was released in 2021, I think its reception would be much more positive then.
they did absolute 0 testing with these games. The game still has that annoying UE4 gameface error which I am pretty sure happens because of save file corruption. I see people from launch complaining about it, and it still occurs. I lost all my progress because of it because multiple of my files were corrupted somehow and had to start over GTA 3.
It only took them 3 years, 100 patches and it still doesn't look right. People should stop praising this kind of work "oh but they'll fix it because it's an important IP!" it shouldn't have been broken to begin with it should have been a polished experience from the start like the ones we got 20 years ago "oh but technology is much advanced now it's hard" no it isn't, technology is at a point that can make it easier to remaster old games with the proper care and work
You forgot to mention how painfully slow the swimming was in the release version. In the latest update CJ can now swim faster. As for the radio switching on certain boats that's how it was in the PS2 version as well which I thought added to the charm of the game.
Ive been playing them and it feels closer to the og ones for ps2. They doing good, idk if they working on another patch but to see these looks so good now is a vibe fr
For the gang jersey it looks like they removed the bump map or rather removed the number from the bump map. In the updated version there's no clear" bump" on the numbers, they just made the texture flat.
6:43 this is like this in the vanilla too. But because people have been purposefully trying to shit on the Definitive Edition, pointing on this together with the other stuff, they've changed this
@@MilesFox92steam version is also a pretty buggy mess so it makes sense on pc. In fact a lot will suggest you to downgrade your pc version to 1.0 instead of the latest because of bugs getting worse in newer version and also having the ability to apply mods especially SilentPatch. If you want more info about it, just watch Vadim M's video about the steam version of San Andreas
The only thing that makes me mad about this is the fact that Rockstar took off the old version of these games just to force we to buy this at FULL PRICE. This is really disgusting.
It's pretty sad that this is the state of gaming now. I'm glad they were able to fix it, but I'm going to wait a bit more to see what other patches (if at all), implement.
Just 100% GTA 3. Tried back on release but classic lighting and bug fixes really captured the moodiness and helped me want to pick the game back up. On sale, $24 and $8 for each game, you can't beat it (PC).
I kinda like the fire effects of the release version there are more sprites over an area making the Molotov seem more impactful but the sprites themselves could be a bit brighter
I don't know if it's nostalgia doing it's work but for me I will never find this games better than the originals, even the looks for me the OG ones look more "real" , of course they didn't have the best quality but they did the best of what they had at that time , now the remaked/remastered versions look like the characters are made of clay or plastic it's so weird for me I prefer so much the original models
The thing I find it funny is that the ps2 had the cloud the fog and all that stuff so as I am happy that they added this back in and such…to me it’s was almost like they were saying “yeah ps4/5 can’t render this sorry!”
I hope the three games will get their signature "feel" back. Like, GTA 3 has the dreary, gloomy, and lonely aesthetic, GTA VC has a colourful saturated look, and GTA SA has an... orange-ish look to it? I haven't looked at it much.
@@H3llBaron Plying original for ps2 on original hardware and it feels totality different atmosphere. Original feels like LSD dream, this feels like lego Gta.
Since its a definitive edition, a real gift to the fans would be recreating the insane and fun San Andreas Multiplayer Mod as an official GTA San Andreas Online. Even better do it for each game in the trilogy.
One thing that these remasters lose is the music. There are a lot of good songs that are missing from the original PS2 versions, due to licenses expiring
Does anyone know if they fixed the ride heights of certain cars in vice city? Some of the low down sports cars look like they have 4x4 suspension and it really bugs me!
It's worth buying on sale , but just couse i know there will be more patches,lets be honest , you guys won't be saying the graphics are worse than gta trilogy , its just the nostalgia that makes you upset with the new one.
Imagine waiting for years only to get the "patches" that should be already inquired in the first release, if only they could wait a few years, it could be an decent remaster.
they never will because that's not a game mechanic that was there in the original games. Remaster isn't about adding new game mechanics, it is to improve the existing ones
Wait, doesn’t remastered mean to be much more modern and better? Why make it look like a old systems when it’s a remastered version? Am I missing something?
200 patches later we will reach the og gta functionality bruh
1:55 its not original, in GTA 3 you couldn't run and shoot
Thing is that IF Rockstar DID use their propriatry inhouse Game Engine it would be very close to the og gameplay mechanics but we have to settle with using UE4 because of much more advanced graphics
@@mayuravirus6134 they didn't even bother testing the most simple things, if they did they would notice lots of bugs, they just passed the project to a small mobile programmer group without supervising them
@@petergotit5949That's.... an actual improvement? Holy shit, they actually did something right.
1:40 the camera rotation of planes still locked in horizontal axis only
You cant look up or down in a plane
This is a major issue since release... they should fix this quickly
the biggest mistake rockstar did with these game was allowing grove street games to make this remaster despite there being over a decade of complaining of how bad their ports were
That also messed up the gta san andreas vr port as well
The original mobile versions were awesome, what are you talking about
The mistake was letting Ai do these remasters for a cash grab, instead of putting in manual work/love.
@@batalayar These aren't mobile version, are they? They can't do remastered versions for console if their lifes depended on it.
@@batalayarthe mobile versions were not AWESOME the game is awesome. Their port is awful
R* should be the one who did this remaster project
not that stupid groove street games studio
This update is not done by R*. It's done by Video Games Deluxe, the same company that made the VR version of LA Noire. They are definitely far more competent than Grove Street Games.
Nah rockstar just needs to focus on GTA 6 and GTA 6 ONLY
R* own grove street games. so technically they did remaster it... you can bet R* knew all-along what was going on with their money making baby... it's just when companies do a sh*t job. they smartly hide behind another name.
R* own grove street games (or whatever you wanna call them). so technically they did remaster it... you can bet R* knew all-along what was going on with their money making baby... it's just when companies do a sh*t job. they smartly hide behind another name.
rockstar own so-called 'grove street games'. they just hid behind that name so they could scam us... you can bet they knew all-along what was going on with their little cash making baby. they were out to make a quick buck.
some people might say all is not fixed but for me, if this is not their first patch and if they continue to improve the game by patching everything then it's a step in the right direction
Fr even we can get modded version which are way better for free @LiamW22
@LiamW22 I disagree
It's not fixed yet? I want to buy it
@LiamW22 can’t argue with you there. Wait til you see how pizza is prepared for their commercials
@LiamW22 we living in the sad world where people are okay with broken mass release and just waiting for patch to make it durable
The deadpan expression on CJ's face as his jet crashed into the floor made me burst out laughing. 🤣
Tbh hiring a third-party company to remaster their games was a huge mistake. The classic versions were as great as they were.
Agreed but not for GTA 3 I felt the remaster made that game so much better
1:37 i cant believe they didnt fixed this one crucial feature yet:
THE CAMERA ROTATION FOR PLANES IN GTA SAN ANDREAS LOCKED TO HORIZONTAL ONLY
You cant see above and below you. The funny thing is, flying cars don't have that problem
Agree it. That one is ONLY Thing i cannot tolerate
Yeah they really fumbled by using the mobile version instead of the xbox 360 version
7:25 the fire effect on release gives me gta 4 vibes
Gta iv fire effect is far better than this
It looks like san andreas effect tbh
The attention to detail in this video is next level !
Well done man, subbed!
3:12 i noticed in the new version Claude's shoulders don't recoil from the gunshots unlike the old version. That's actually a DOWNGRADE
You're entire body doesn't start flailing while shooting a pistol UPGRADE
it went from horrendous to okay
1:17 Looks like someone is having trouble using the plane
😂😂
Probably Japanese Pilot see his enemy as well
in gta online ofc 😂
18:57 The lip sync actually looks like it's improved, the character looked like he was mumbling before lol
Next big update should be a rework of all characters and peds. An recover the old vehicles rear lights colour.
I doubt there will be more updates.
The last update was made by an entirely different studio quite a while ago. It was a one off thing.
@@Renigen yeah well... Its a long way for them to make me spent a buck on this trilogy. This is like a car that had a bad generation, more than a facelift to convince. 💀
It's waste of the resources when you think about it, They can hire anyone to work for this project remaster yet they choose someone who only makes Mobile games just so that they can make remaster in cheap budget. But utimately it became a big loss for Rockstar they had to spend extra amount of resources and use their own home employees to rework this game.
Bro what a coincidence, just yesterday i was thinking about buying the trilogy and now this video shows up on my suggestions list
dont buy it until its on sale bro
Don't buy it just sail the seven seas matey
Tbh I ended up buying it for my PS5 & honestly I don’t regret it & this is someone who played GTA SA on PC for over a decade 🤷🏾♂️ not saying the PC version is inferior now but for those with consoles or those who don’t want/can’t set up mods on PC this is a pretty good option
@@Tye2Kisnt the pc version the same thing what? 😂
@ the original PC version is not the same as the definitive edition… 🤦🏾♂️ not even close even WITH these new updates & fixes
This whole Definitive Edition was a mistake. The game looks goofy as hell even with the "fixes". The graphics make the game look like those janky bottom of the barrel games sold on Steam for under $2.
15:07 you know what
I take it back
young Reese? Still got it cracking.
Yesterday I finished Vice City "Definitive Edition" on Switch. After its release in 2021, as a huge fan of the original trilogy, I promised myself that I would never buy the new version. But after the last patch I changed my mind. It's true that the game is a bit too expensive, but the "classic lighting" mode does the job. I didn't experience any major bugs during my playthrough, although I did encounter some funny situations. The game also crashed once. It's a pity that the game didn't look like this when it was released in 2021, I think its reception would be much more positive then.
I see no one talking about how they reworked Tommy's face om 5:42's cutscene, just pay attention to it, it looks so much better now
that poor cop at around 2:09 never stood a chance and got obliterated
The original Definitive Edition graphics looks like GTA IV San Andreas - GTA VC Rage - GTA 3 Rage mod's original graphics.
Sorry the street light is objectively worse it had a volumetric cone that is completely missing now
Actually alot of changes are just made it worse imo. Yes, they get closer to oryginal bit more, but it looks worse. xD
they did absolute 0 testing with these games. The game still has that annoying UE4 gameface error which I am pretty sure happens because of save file corruption. I see people from launch complaining about it, and it still occurs. I lost all my progress because of it because multiple of my files were corrupted somehow and had to start over GTA 3.
It only took them 3 years, 100 patches and it still doesn't look right. People should stop praising this kind of work "oh but they'll fix it because it's an important IP!" it shouldn't have been broken to begin with it should have been a polished experience from the start like the ones we got 20 years ago "oh but technology is much advanced now it's hard" no it isn't, technology is at a point that can make it easier to remaster old games with the proper care and work
people like buying garbage, look no further than switch
You forgot to mention how painfully slow the swimming was in the release version. In the latest update CJ can now swim faster. As for the radio switching on certain boats that's how it was in the PS2 version as well which I thought added to the charm of the game.
Ive been playing them and it feels closer to the og ones for ps2. They doing good, idk if they working on another patch but to see these looks so good now is a vibe fr
'Statement #1 "Streetlights seem too modern for it's time...." '
Me looking at the unrealistic hooters on the 'streetwalker'
For the gang jersey it looks like they removed the bump map or rather removed the number from the bump map. In the updated version there's no clear" bump" on the numbers, they just made the texture flat.
Things still look like they are made of play doh.
Vou continuar a jogar as minhas versões PS2. ,💪
Yeah, it’s almost like it’s based on games that came out 20+ years ago or something 🤔
@corvega_joe Fan made remasters manage to make things nice somehow
they need to update it more
Maybe that can be why there hasn’t been another trailer for GTA6 because they are trying to get GTA DE to work better?
@@solidmage1720they have separate dev teams at Rockstar to work on different games.
@@solidmage1720 rockstar have been busy developing Gta 6 hence why
Grove street games is the devs of DE
6:43 this is like this in the vanilla too. But because people have been purposefully trying to shit on the Definitive Edition, pointing on this together with the other stuff, they've changed this
no, it is not available in the vanilla version
@@dash9254 Yes it is. Get inside any jet/plane and test it out Yourself.
@@MilesFox92 . I've already done this, and it doesn't happen. I have the game for PlayStation 2 and it doesn't happen.
@@dash9254 Hmm. Then it must be platform-specific, because it does work on PC. Now I wonder why THIS thing is different between platforms...
@@MilesFox92steam version is also a pretty buggy mess so it makes sense on pc. In fact a lot will suggest you to downgrade your pc version to 1.0 instead of the latest because of bugs getting worse in newer version and also having the ability to apply mods especially SilentPatch. If you want more info about it, just watch Vadim M's video about the steam version of San Andreas
Man, this thing released with so many bugs, it's almost unbelievable
14:04 actually, the garage door is right, the middle one never open in original if i can still remeber, the new patch only fixed this og issue
Yeah you’re correct. People don’t go back and check their sources anymore.
The only thing that makes me mad about this is the fact that Rockstar took off the old version of these games just to force we to buy this at FULL PRICE.
This is really disgusting.
6:48 is me while playing this game on the released version
😂😂😂
5:10 It’s a bird, it’s a plane, …. It’s Supercarl
It's pretty sad that this is the state of gaming now. I'm glad they were able to fix it, but I'm going to wait a bit more to see what other patches (if at all), implement.
There really aren't many other major problems that need fixed.
I'm 100%ing all 3 games again are these patches. Everything feels great so far.
Why was this remaster necessary again? I still feel like the OGs were better in every single way.
6:50 me watching this video right now
Is it just me or did Tommy's face change as well? 6:01
yes
Yeah, i just found out too
this is a mod
14:25 Normal day in GTA
Literally could make billions if they remake the trilogy with the GTA 5 engine…
Thank you for uploading this👍
Just 100% GTA 3. Tried back on release but classic lighting and bug fixes really captured the moodiness and helped me want to pick the game back up. On sale, $24 and $8 for each game, you can't beat it (PC).
R* should have never charged GSG for remastering this! But it's still good that they got rid of them later than never
bruh. we are QA
I kinda like the fire effects of the release version there are more sprites over an area making the Molotov seem more impactful but the sprites themselves could be a bit brighter
It's nice that they're trying to fix the DE i hope with enough uptades the games can reach the quality of the og games or maybe surpass em.
They need to update the character models now make them look more realistic
Great content man ❤🎉
But why did they have to make a definitive edition of these 3 games in the first place?
What was the problem with the original versions?
Amazing that they only needed 50 parches
How old is this "Remaster" now??
Three years! It took them three years! It released on November 2021.
Modern video games. Wait for the thing you paid for to finally work.
Seems like a lot of things have been fixed! Are there many other bugs/issues still unfixed?
I don't know if it's nostalgia doing it's work but for me I will never find this games better than the originals, even the looks for me the OG ones look more "real" , of course they didn't have the best quality but they did the best of what they had at that time , now the remaked/remastered versions look like the characters are made of clay or plastic it's so weird for me I prefer so much the original models
Its look cartoonish
Same. For some reason those ,,remakes" look just bad, to artificial, dated but in bad way. Originals even replayed nowadays still hold way better.
7:20 the best scene of video
Years later and it’s finally playable
The thing I find it funny is that the ps2 had the cloud the fog and all that stuff so as I am happy that they added this back in and such…to me it’s was almost like they were saying “yeah ps4/5 can’t render this sorry!”
The streetlights from the release version were better, in my opinion.
Streetlights back then were yellow-ish. The release version doesn't fit the time and tone of the game
if they release a reworked game, it should be better than the original not worse
The definitive editions are awesome now
I agree but needs some more fixes tho
0:30 is that franklins voice
The only they wouldn't fix, is the flying issue.
what’s the flying issue? Never had a problem
I hope the three games will get their signature "feel" back. Like, GTA 3 has the dreary, gloomy, and lonely aesthetic, GTA VC has a colourful saturated look, and GTA SA has an... orange-ish look to it? I haven't looked at it much.
6:52
Are you talking about the original or the definitive edition?
Because that bug originated In ps2 version.
6:49 tbh that part also from OG of the game
Everything looks like its made out of plastic.
Exactly, worse than original game
@@H3llBaron Plying original for ps2 on original hardware and it feels totality different atmosphere. Original feels like LSD dream, this feels like lego Gta.
still needs more patches!!
sorry, imma still play my GTA VC next gen edition mod where 4 guys remade the entirety of the game in gta 4's engine, way better
are the monster stunt counters also fixed by now?
It took them 3 years to make a version that was minimally ""acceptable""
Still not good enough but it’s getting better
Since its a definitive edition, a real gift to the fans would be recreating the insane and fun San Andreas Multiplayer Mod as an official GTA San Andreas Online. Even better do it for each game in the trilogy.
Wouldve loved to see the original in comparison in here too to show why the update was needed.
I actually prefer vice city without the classic lighting, the other 2 look better with classic on
One thing that these remasters lose is the music. There are a lot of good songs that are missing from the original PS2 versions, due to licenses expiring
The biggest one is the Michael Jackson songs in Vice City
It's a big improvement. Lets wait and see if they continue with future patches and actually make the game we deserved..
Could also add that some vehicles got proper wheels like they should have been (they weren’t matching to the original counterparts before)
Does anyone know if they fixed the ride heights of certain cars in vice city? Some of the low down sports cars look like they have 4x4 suspension and it really bugs me!
It's worth buying on sale , but just couse i know there will be more patches,lets be honest , you guys won't be saying the graphics are worse than gta trilogy , its just the nostalgia that makes you upset with the new one.
True, though there are some things that is a downgrade from the originals
When was the update for PS5?
Does the mobile version have the sames updates ?
Imagine waiting for years only to get the "patches" that should be already inquired in the first release, if only they could wait a few years, it could be an decent remaster.
tommy and claude still cant swim 😥
Because they can’t swim……
they never will because that's not a game mechanic that was there in the original games. Remaster isn't about adding new game mechanics, it is to improve the existing ones
Obviously. That wasn't a feature in the original
Ok, but can the players pay money for the game after the patch and not at the release date?
Estos cambios fueron agregados a la versión de Ps4? o solo es exclusivo de Ps5 y pc
i still can’t see the elegy front bumper in the mod shop
I liked the rain from launch. It looked good
There are some improvements i see but why the graphic looks like it has been downgraded
Wait, doesn’t remastered mean to be much more modern and better? Why make it look like a old systems when it’s a remastered version? Am I missing something?
The engine propeller of the boats in vice City no longer works
7:37 dude literally everyone says that the new version is better because ofc fires behave that way
It's amazing this all new features came in mobile version first ❤
Tbh lightstreet is the only thing I consider to be better before
If the game did not miss any of the music, it would have been a good time to buy it.
this video definitely helped me to decide to buy the game
0:22 but lost their glow
1:45 but clouds like rdr2 is better
1:30 if you can walk while shooting its dope
3:00 release day sandstorm is more accurate but i know its color effect is sh1t
3:30 the distructure effect improved!
8:00 release day version's blow-up animation is better, and the latest patch's texture used is better
Wish they kept volumetric clouds/fog with classic lighting. Gta 3 is way better with classic off.
Indeed