Here's something new I learned: The Chicks changed their name from "The Dixie Chicks" because "Dixie" derives from the Mason-Dixon Line that separated slave-owning and free states and is used to nostalgically reference the American South during the 20th century. TLDR: it's rooted in racism, hence the name change. Here's an Atlantic article about it: www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/06/what-dixie-really-means/613585/
Out of curiosity (and because I'm a bit ill and too lazy to look it up) - what did they change their group's name to? Is it just "The Chicks"? Excellent video (as always) it's nice to see you again. You seem rather well and look great.
Funny story: when I went to Summer camp as a child, the invisible line to separate the girl's side of camp and the boy's side of camp was called the Mason-Dixon line. And by funny, I mean horrible.
"The alphabet is problematic because it doesn't have enough letters to represent all the genders" is one fuckstorm of a sentence that I wasn't expecting to hear
Would’ve worked better as something like “while the alphabet does contain all of the Good Letters, it also needlessly includes the letter S, which we all know stands for Straights”. You could make that joke from either side.
The worst part is this could be developed into an actual joke by poking fun at our inability to come up with a good name to represent people of non standard sexualities. Instead we use the mouthful that is the alphabet maphia. Unfortunately I am not funny so I cannot quite think of the joke myself.
There have been... a handful of funny headlines. Though even some of those, like Kayne releasing an album named My Struggle, are morally dubious, since, to reference the Alt-Right Playbook, that's just them pretending to be white collaborators
I think the "migrant cages now rainbow colored for pride month" could actual be a good joke if it were critiquing the shallowness of liberalism in the same vein as the 👏 more 👏 female 👏 drone 👏 pilots 👏 joke but they really missed it.
@@AustinHulslander That's just conservative comedy in general. The punchline is actually the outrage of some imagined liberal reading it, so bizarrely often, their concepts could also work as Onion articles criticizing conservatives
These folks pretending to care about Harry Potter- the far right, when HP was starting to soar in popularity, were so outraged by these books that my older sister came home from youthgroup one day and started yelling at me for reading books that taught evil witchcraft- on purpose! What a world we live in!
Right? I had so many friends growing up who were not aloud to read Harry Potter, they where not even aloud to read Lord of the Rings, which is by a Christian author! Now JK Rowling is their hero?
I hate those books because they're dumb and have replaced real literature... Nothing to do with god, sorcery, or politics. In 2003 when 30-yzar-olds were reading them, I was like, welcome to late Rome...
the left want to "cancel" rowling because she constantly spreads propaganda that causes actual harm to actual people; the right have apparently forgotten the time they "cancelled" rowling for… writing a series of books about magic and wizards.
No as a tumblr user this is true. That was funny because I love 'Thats one of the things of all time!' comedy but then it got to "Ummmmm...Only Two Gender 😂" comedy
@@g4yb0ybl1tz7 reminds me of that time Ben Shapiro got mad that schools were teaching that "there are multiple genders." Mans was so adamant about there only being two genders, that he accidentally said there was only one gender
@@TricksterModeEngaged also when a comedian fails to hide that their 'jokes' are strictly coming from a place of anger--any time you're trying to be funny while essentially just ranting, you end up looking like a lunatic.
The worst thing is how all the conservatives & even the Babylon Bee themselves say that their style of comedy nowadays isn't to make you laugh, but to laugh at the leftists who don't think it's funny. How bad at comedy do you have to be to claim you're doing it on purpose 🤨
They think that they're laughing at people who get triggered by what they say. In reality those people think what they say is boring and lame because their material is seriously outdated and played out. They just use lame locker room humor and whatnot. It's really no different that when trump made fun of that reporter by making a gimp arm pose. Juvenile and outdated
You know the Bee is unfunny when they could literally just replace their videos with someone making fart noises into a microphone for 5 minutes l and get more laughs doing so.
@@PinkyJujubean "juvenile and outdated" It's interesting how sometimes other people find words for how you feel about sth. Like right now, it honestly just dawned on me that conservative "comedy" most often elicits the same feeling in me like hearing some fart joke in an Adam Sandler movie. Just couldn't really put the finger on it before.
One of the reasons that I think there's SO much anti-trans "comedy" out there is because transphobia is seen as a sort of "last frontier" in terms of bigotry that's seen as acceptable to spew to the general public. Obviously, some people still use racist/sexist/etc. jokes, but for some reason I feel like transphobia is just treated as generally more okay nowdays, which makes me very sad. It's like we're seen as the lowest sort of people.
It’s sad, but I very much agree with you. For the right-wing, it’s their last shot to propel bigotry through their “comedy”, now that they can’t be as openly racist or homophobic. Hopefully as time goes on people will become more accepting and less bigoted.
Not necessarily the lowest, but the most outnumbered, which means you can safely disrespect them without having to face the embarrassment that comes with offending someone you know or someone who's is the room.
Yeah I hate it. You can do literally nothing wrong and people will still find a reason to hate you. That's why you just learn to ignore the qualms of random people and just live your life. If people wanna find me repulsive for being comfortable in my own skin, then fine. I just don't deal with them
The Dixie Chicks thing really hit me bc no memory is stronger than when I was watching a bulldozer go over a bunch of their albums on the national news (being celebrated too) and thinking "am...I bad for having their CDs?" I was 5? And my conservative grandparents told me YES I WAS. I had to throw away the CD! It wasn't until I was 20 I learned what had happened.
@@felixoupopote you need to read. It wasn't just the news clip, it was the conversation where I thought I was a bad person for having their CDs and my grandparents said I was resulting in me throwing away a CD at 5 years old
People who say "why does comedy have to be so political nowadays" are the same people who will watch a comedian complain about cancel culture and trans people for an hour straight -- as if that's not political
I find that they see themselves as a true zero neutral position from which everything else is a deviation, rather than just being another point in a spectrum that has no neutral point.
yeah, pretty much lol. they fail to understand that they CAN say whatever they want, but everyone else can also practice free speech to criticize them. they see that criticism as "an attack on their free speech".
In a free society, you should not face any ‘social consequences’ for expressing an opinion. It is not unreasonable to not want to be attacked for doing so.
In all seriousness, if I have to spell it out, freedom of speech doesn't protect transphobes from being clowned on. People sooner ask to not be criticized, like ovalrock here, for their opinions than think about why so many people disagree with them. I would propose that ovalrock's request is, in fact, unreasonable. Attacking, as in harassment, is another thing, but "social consequences" aren't limited to harassment. People absolutely get to shun you, criticize you, disagree with you, debate you, etc.
@@Casocki A person who expresses an opinion should be challenged, if a challenge exists. However that person should not be harassed, critised, shunned, etc, for that opinion. That amounts to punishment.
10:35 reminds me of that episode of Bojack Horseman where Bojack does something shitty and apologizes to Todd but Todd goes off on him saying he can't just keep saying sorry and continuing to be a shitty person. Man, that show hits you in the feels while also managing to be hilarious.
I remember reading an insightful remark someone made about how the Babylon Bee’s output was not jokes but “joke-shaped”: like, they’re following the conventions of the form, but they don’t actually get _why_ things are funny
When a conservative says "freedom of speech" it honestly registers in my head now as "lets go back to the days where the uppity minorities didn't have a voice and were silenced so we could say whatever we want" and it definitely makes their sentences make more sense.
@@beth7935 indeed! I say that a lot actually. :p Their want for "free speech" is pretty much solely driven by the want to say slurs. They want freedom of consequences, that's for sure. But they only want to be free of consequences. It's okay if someone gets fired for being gay or trans or horrendous workplace abuse such as constant misgendering or harassment or not being able to go to the bathroom. But if someone gets fired for being horrifically racist and homophobic? That's INFRINGING ON MUH FREE SPEECH! Funny how the people that have a hard on for businesses not being able to sell things to gay people & love private corps treading all over our rights as people suddenly don't want businesses being able to do whatever they want. Firing someone over bigotry is too far, but stealing billions in wages and discriminating? Nah that's fine.
@@mo.ka.9661 Given that your comment has been hidden, I am going to assume you frequently post hateful things on youtube. But no, it doesn't include those groups. You are just biased to think so. A couple of minorities fighting against the best interest of their community is not "evidence" that they're wrong. If one side is saying overwhelmingly one thing, and a few on the other side are being lifted up because of their identity to "prove them wrong" that isn't a good sign. The right loves identity politics. As long as it's good for them. And no, minorites were regularly subjected to physical violence, sometimes even worse. We were silenced on every form of society. We still are today, just at a much lesser extent. Though it still happens. I would know because I grew up in a christian conservative household where my parents hate LGBTQ people, which I am two of those things, and so is my partner. My mom, when she assumed I was dating my partner when I went to visit him, told me not to tell anyone and keep it a secret, clearly gets upset anytime I talk about it, regularly says slurs, and called me a slur to my face and told me she thinks I'm possessed by a demon or "misled by the internet or my friends" and blames being a furry partly. I can't talk about these things with them because they'll get upset due to them being uninformed, bigoted, hateful, and unwilling to change, it would be more trouble for me, not them. Minorities are still regularly silenced, and violence is still common. Not as much as they once were, but it's still very common. Once again, freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. If you say something awful and get fired, you had the freedom to not say that, but you did. Then, the company reacts accordingly by firing you. Just because you say something doesn't mean people have to begrudgingly take it. The only one that can't censor your speech is the government, and that's still subject to exceptions such as breaking laws. You can't ignore the phrasing here when right wing people say these things, simply "freedom of speech" makes no sense, because they are regularly saying these things. They want freedom of consequence, to say anything as hateful and abusive as they want without pushback. They are upset they can't say the most hateful stuff ever and then call it "censorship" when it's very clearly not. You said it, others responded. That's how its always gone. They are not silenced and have a large platform to say hateful, harmful things, yet pretend they're silenced. You play by the rules of the platform, or you're banned, that's that. Even then, that's quite rare for a right winger to get in trouble unless it borders on physical violence or extreme language, sometimes even then it's not, such as libsoftiktok, who regularly does call to violences on minorities.
The funnest part of Babylon Bee is that their viewers often will post it's articles in defense of whatever crusade they're currently on thinking they're a legitimate news source when it say right on their Twitter account they're satire.
BB's best anti-trans jokes sound like legit shitposts actual trans people would make. Along the lines with how I joke about going to the mall to get my orchiectomy done at Claire's.
This idea of MiLIonS Of GEndeRS comes from the fact that gender experience is something very personal. As such many people don't feel like they fit into the 2/3 genders system. So they create own labels But this "10 exciting new pronouns to try out today" suggest that in our capitalist hell-scape even something as personal as neo genders has been commercialized Which is sadly something I can see happening in the future
The problem is that it's never being done for the purpose of comedy alone. At least to me it never feels that way. It's always about trying to poke the buttons of the viewers/audience to get a reaction. The other problem is that it gets hammered into the ground. Everyone is doing it and you expect it. And you just don't want to hear about these political figures anymore. Even in joke form. It tires you out.
Thats actually true. I was reading that the reason BB continues with trans jokes is because it is the highest rated and viewed content for them. So that says alot about the humor of its followers.
The band actually goes by The Chicks now! They changed their name because of some historical connotations with their old name, so they're actually consistently pretty based.
Yeah. The Chicks were one of the few Southern groups that were usually on the right side of things back when they were banned for protesting George Bush, to accepting that their name reflects thee glorification of the Daughters of Confederacy, being racist.
I enjoyed the take that one of the first examples of cancel culture was when the right did it to The Chicks because they said something about George W Bush that they didn't like.
What conservative comedians don’t seem to get is that when you’re punching down it just comes off as cruel and mean spirited, which is the huge difference between just ignoring a bad comedian and actively hating them.
All conservative humor is concerned about is owning the libs, making fun of people they don't like, and being "right." Case in point, watch Tim Allen's show Last Man Standing. He finds out his grandson is into art and he's all "grrr art? Thats not manly!"
Yeah, but how do you know which way is "down"? That's subjective. You may think joking about transgenders is "punching down", but for a conservative, that's "punching up".
@@Kirsanov “transgenders” is not the proper term. Simply transgender people will do. I also wouldn’t say the perception that it’s punching up is valid considering many of us are fighting for the legal right to just exist and race near daily discrimination, they can perceive it however they want but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s actively hurtful to a group of people who it’s still considered relatively okay to belittle and mock.
"People want to pretend comedians are modern day philosophers. Which I think is pretty insulting to, y'know, modern day philosophers." - Norm Macdonald
How is their "top 2 genders thing" literally just the "shoutout to women's day gotta be one of my favorite genders." That's literally already a common meme
I think the “A Quiet Place” animation accidentally made a really good point about conservative people, because all they had to do was not state their political affiliations until the monster was gone and they would have been safe, yet still the woman felt the need to talk about how minimum wage shouldn’t be raised while they were trying to hide.
Ik, that one to me kinda seemed more like it was meant to make fun of conservatives lol (But honestly, they're all like that to me... 😅) That just goes to show how bad they are at writing comedy.
Okay but like can we talk about how their unfunny non-joke didn't even make any sense? Who on the face of this dogforsaken planet would get offended by the word "Asian"? They could've at least gone with "We've realized that the word 'Caucasian' has a geographical indication and since the character isn't from Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Southwestern Russia, or Northeastern Turkey we decided to change it.". But I'm sure they could never think of that since they more than likely don't know a single thing about world geography.
Its probably one of those things where they can't find anyone actually being mad about it, so they have to draw attention to it themselves and pretend like they heard it from the left
The problem is that realizing that would mean that they have an actual understanding of the other side's viewpoints? But they don't, they just have this weird absurd crazy strawman that nobody actually believes. So it's like they're specifically targetting a group of people over something that is just a complete fabrication. It would be like if I made a bit about a doctor who looks like Trump forcing a woman to give birth at gunpoint. Like, you get the satire, it's about how people on the right are anti-abortion, but it wouldn't really land at all because it's not a thing. It doesn't follow from any of their arguments that they'd threaten to kill a pregnant woman, right? It'd flop super hard. But if I made a sketch about, say, kids arming up with guns to stop mass shootings like they're a small army, then that'd probably work way better because it's actually an extension of conservative gun control beliefs, just taken to an extreme position. I dunno, I feel like that makes sense, at least.
The only person I've ever known who got offended by the word "Asian" was an American who got angry that I said Dev Patel was "British Asian" apparently unaware that "Asian" generally means "South Asian" in the UK rather than "East Asian". He was offended that India is a part of Asia
20:21 this could pass as a relevant critique of rainbow capitalist liberals if the babylon bee wasn't so fundamentally incapable of forming a coherent thought
the worst part to me is that they WRITE THIS like it's NOT EVEN IMPROV they BRAINSTORM this shit for HOURS just to be less funny than literal small talk
And the title of the video wouldn't be the entire joke either. It would be a set up/ framing for a bunch of different funny observations about gender identity and queerness
There's actually already a video similar to that. Pretty sure it's called "Gender tier list" and is made by jreg. It's a pretty positive, open-minded, inclusive and funny video where jre tries to understand, discuss and rate the genders based on how wacky and extreme they are and based on the comments, queer people seem to like it. One person even said that it was better allyship than most serious educational conent lol. There's a lot of irony, but by the end jreg seems very accepting and genuinely admiring of all the wacky and fun genders and even embraces it.
Next on our list is... none! No gender. Ah, agender people, so devoid of gender. Such a void into which gender falls and never re-emerges. Wait, if this gender is no gender, should it be on the list?
I love how Anna mentioned that the BB brings up the issues with performtive allyness. And honestly if it just changed the angle to that then I think some of their jokes actually become bitting satire (I.e. Rainbow cages). But no they're blissfully unaware and just keep talking past what minortieis actually are saying and want.
Their joke is that the Left is as callous and hypocritical as they are---and thus, nobody *really* cares, and so their own lack of caring is entirely normal and therefore beyond moral reproach.
I've seen a lot of good political comedy. But a recurring theme that marks the good stuff is the critique/satire of actual POLICIES and not just mocking a public figure. Which to be fair is kinda tough to write, considering the fact that would require the audience to have a vague notion of the policy decisions in question.
That's a really great point. Good political comedy, with the understanding that comedy itself is subjective, is that which demonstrates the nonsensical and often dangerous nature of the POLICIES. It's right in the name of the genre, unless these people don't understand what "political" means even though they're commenting on it. George Carlin was the absolute best at doing this, in fact he's the most famous and successful political comedian of all time. But he didn't call out people, he called out ideas. He broke them down into real world hypotheticals to show their absurdity, lack of common sense and validity, and made it clear as day that the policies do not, cannot, work. And he did it using humor but the material practically writes itself because it's so ludicrous to begin with. This is why conservative comedians, or anyone trying to "own the libs", are never in on the joke. Since these are their own policies, they don't see how funny it is to those who actually do have common sense and know how to keep our minds open. So this is their reaction to it.
The UK does political comedy reasonably well. Sometimes they edge into mocking the person rather then the policy - but usually its only at someone who won't ever care about their awful politics being criticised but will get genuinely upset at being called names or compared to inanimate objects (like on Have I Got News For You when a guest declined to show up last minute so they replaced him with a literal tub of lard. He'd have gotten a softer touch if he showed up like he promised and didn't kick up a fuss about it, but of course he whined so much they kept the joke going for quite a while longer until its all he's known for now). But mostly its mocking the ridiculousness of the situation and the weird justifications given for said bad policies. Or quite often ripping on their hypocrisy.
@@andromidius One of the reasons why I absolutely adore Katherine Ryan's comedy! She's British by nationality and Canadian by birth, with equal shit to throw at both. She's also beautiful, tall, blonde, vivacious, wildly intelligent, quick witted (audience interactions, quiz shows), and firm but open minded. I love her ❤
Reminds me of the, "California had to put oil drilling and vaping indoors on the SAME BILL to get people to stop!" Genuinely humorous. Also law makers bundled the two on the same bill in hopes Californians would legalize the off-shore oil drilling because they wouldn't want to give up their vapes.
I did laugh at the punch in the face joke about unvaccinated people. But bear in mind my favorite thing is to laugh at the awkwardness that follows an unfunny joke.
@@shroomshroom5945 i agree! Though I interpreted it as some other person running into the studio to punch him in the face the moment they heard the news. The vaccine joke is plain unfunny but the literal punchline is good.
They definitely do expect to just be forgiven for saying 'oh sorry' because that's literally what christian prayer is. They can be as awful as they want and know they'll be forgiven by the voice in their head.
1. do terrible things 2. apologize, but not a good aplogy ("I'm sorry that _you're upset"_ or "I'm sorry _you feel that way")_ 3. get all offended when people don't immediately treat you like you never did anything wrong at all.
Actually no, that’s not how it works. Maybe that’s how some people lie to themselves, but you cannot have the mindset that you “can do whatever you like and just say sorry later.” That’s the fakest of fake Christians at work. If one was truly remorseful, they’d changed their attitude at the core to prevent future sins (be it in thought, words, actions) and seek to nurture future holiness/goodness/love within themselves. Knowing you have forgiveness for anything bad you do later is more a reassurance to a truly changed individual, a “you’re doing your best to improve, you’ll mess up sometimes but that’s forgiven because you’ve changed and are changing your life around for Christ.”
@@zachanikwano You're right about that attitude being fake Christianity in the sense that it doesn't really reflect the teaching of Christ, but I'd argue that more people who call themselves Christians think the other way, so in a sense, that is what Christianity is in the real world.
I actually laughed at the "vaccinated people can now legally punch unvaccinated people" *gets decked by co host but doesnt react* bit but everything else sucks
Yup. Me too. But maybe that's just because of physical comedy, and I kinda *like* the idea of being able to legally punch an anti-vaxxer. I also just smiled at the monster out of "Quiet place" because I just enjoyed recognising which film they were parodying.
Conservatives almost know how to make a joke, but miss at the last second because the intent is so nakedly stupid. A better comedian could literally tell the exact same joke, but actually be funny cuz they're satirising the way disingenuous apologies/statements are so cringe it's funny. The Amazon show the boys makes this joke a bunch, but knows how to make it funny and it works
My conservative Christian mother often sends me Babylon bee headlines, but fortunately for me they’re only the ones that poke fun at Christians, which I usually find funny! Super unfortunate that they went from making fun of, ostensibly, themselves/ a majority group to unfunny jokes about minority groups
The Babylon Bee was original more of “the Onion for Christians”, then “the Onion for conservatives”. I remember Christian family members reposting Babylon Bee articles back in the day, and they were mostly poking fun at Christian culture. The RUclipsr José has a video about them, and points out the site took a decidedly more political turn when the original creator left the company.
Yeah that uses to be their thing. They were meant as comedy for Christians, about Christians, and contained a lot of self depreciating humor and observations about quirky things within Christian culture. Nowadays they've just turned into a completely mean spirited, unfunny conservative rag. Unfortunately, that's probably made them way more money...
Yeah I used to quite enjoy some of those articles as a left leaning Christian they were a good bit of fun, but I absolutely hate the strawmaning and punching down they're doing at the moment
Idk if this was intentional but I love that the placement of each of your monitors makes it look like AnnaMarie is sitting on the floor in front of you and she’s basking in the glow of your presence ✨😂
I know the motorcycle thing was in reference to Lia thomas, and Id just like to say that she wasn't miraculously going from like 400th place to first place. She was consistently around 8th place and around 8 to 9 seconds behind the male record in 2018. She started estrogen in 2019 and her place drastically dropped as she transitioned, until she had been on estrogen long enough to be allowed to play in women's sports. She was still 9 or 8 seconds behind the women's record, and yes she has won some races, but she's also lost plenty and come dead last in some.
That is disingenuous. From wki: The March 2022 NCAA championship was Thomas's last college swimming event.[28] By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.[29][17] According to the swimming data website Swimcloud, Thomas is ranked 36th among female college swimmers in the United States for the 2021-2022 season,[19] and 46th among women swimmers nationally
@@markprice5651 From that same wiki, all except one of Thomas's personal best records are from before she transitioned. Seems like you're the one being disingenuous, as all transphobic pieces of shit tend to be.
Babylon Bee is just a satire of itself at this point, lol. Comedy that relies on punching down is always terrible, and they have driven it into the ground at this point. Thank you for making this video, this definitely needed to be covered by someone.
@@iamaphantom6905 to people with low intelligence I suppose. Considering the joke is almost exclusively "haha trans people are weird" "women aren't funny" "black kids don't have dad's" there's no punchline really.
To be fair the “rainbow pride month migrant cages” does actually sound like like something that could genuinely happen in the dystopia we live in. I could see the border police trying to make themselves seem nicer and in an out of touch move do something like that. I don’t think that was the point of their joke but it think it was scarily plausible
yeah I actually thought that was kinda funny, but not for the reason they hoped. It was more because "haha what an absurd twist on rainbow capitalism, good thing it isn't real? RIGHT?"
I was actually on board with the top 10 genders thing until they got to the actual punchline. The concept of ranking genders in a numbered list is really funny to me personally and someone with actual talent might be able to do something with it
Wait, the ‘cages for kids will now be rainbow for pride month’ Was actually funny, im impressed. It’s almost like a critique of rainbow capitalism. ‘Corporations gonna exploit, even with that rainbow logo’. I’m sure this was unintentional, but still made me laugh
I think you hit the nail on the head. Sometimes the funniest jokes comedians tell are ones at the expense of themselves or their "side". This is probably because the motivation is not bitterness or "scoring points" but just to genuinely poke fun at some of the ridiculous things they've seen people doing. I'm sure there are ways to poke fun at the other side successfully, but doing so over and over again starts to feel just like you don't have any other jokes to tell and it just sounds stale and bitter.
I honestly thought the Cracker Jack joke was going to land on renaming it "White Person"- which made a lot of sense with their progression. I think it could actually be a funny punchline for a different set up- or just a one-liner: "'Cracker Jack rebrands as 'White Person.'" They ruined what could have been the ONE redeeming part of that joke just because they wanted to be edgy and say "white power." very frustrating.
Very often they’ll almost make a passable joke but fail in the execution. That muppet bit would have been fine if they didn’t feel the need to explain that it’s because he’s white.
Yeah, I could appreciate the "Cracker Jack is rebranding as Cracker Jill" as a one liner, thought they missed the mark on it, but I can still appreciate that. But then they just KEPT GOING, like, when is that ever funny? Don't beat the dead horse.
Tara really used the term “moot point” when she could have quoted Joey with “moo point”…tsk tsk Hahaha jk Tara is the best and once again has delivered a thoughtful and interesting video ❤
My parents still loved the Dixie chicks 😂 we had a bumper sticker that said " somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot" 🤣 but my parents were liberal and my mom was a union steward so they really didn't appreciate bush as president.
Get well soon. And just a trick my mom used for me when I was little: orange sherbet and sprite mixed. It'll settle the stomach a biit, and help cool you down a bit
See, “the migrant children’s cage being pride colored for June” is ALMOST satire of corporate pride but their bigotry is too compelling for them, I guess? The other thing is that all these conservative guys hold Carlin up as the apex of comedy when he was a progressive liberal who would regularly do long bits making fun of conservative political points of view?!
The worst kind of political humour is the kind that just says that the other side are stupid or immoral. The best kind of political humour doesn't go in this direction. It subverts lazy stereotypes of political positions because those stereotypes are too comforting. e.g. Yes Minister presented its conservatives as clever, smart, devious - rather than stupid - because that then forces us to deal with them. Likewise, a good parody of left-wingers doesn't treat us as morally bankrupt because... that's both too easy, and not really accurate. I think the problem is that a lot of bad political comedy is actually just cackhanded political rhetoric that doesn't want to do its research. So it's not about examining a position and finding the humour that exists within it. It's just about saying that a position is good or bad, and maybe encouraging people who agree to laugh so that they associate the message with that little endorphin rush.
@@mikemiken1963 Darling I don’t know if you know this but “on accident” are two real words that form one real phrase. It’s ok not everyone knows everything
I honestly thought the joke about Cracker Jack renaming its brand would be something like, getting renamed to "Saltine Jack" because "cracker" is racist. Alas.
Unfortunately for white people who think cracker is racist most white people of even their own ethnic group disagree a large majority do not think it’s racist in essence though to be fair anything can be racist with the right tone
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle And? The term "negro" just means "black" in Portuguese. As used, the term cracker is used to negatively describe people on the basis of their race.
I thought it would go that direction too, since conservative Christians want to be the victim so bad, they could’ve even made jokes about there being a whole line of [insert censored slur] Jacks, since “cracker” is apparently just as bad as any other slur…
"Cages will be bathed in rainbow colors for Pride Month." This sounds like a joke a liberal would write about governments and corporations during Pride Month.
My dad and I used to enjoy reading and sending Babylon Bee articles to each other. We always liked the ones poking fun at the church or ones that poked fun at mundane every-day things. We both stopped reading them after they got really mean spirited with their articles because they weren't funny anymore, just ugly.
Also I disagree that all satire is comedy. Most of the time it is, but it doesn't have to be, for example Scream is a satire of the horror genre, particular slashers, but it isn't a comedy, I wouldn't even class as a horror-comedy, but it still satire it's just exagrating the common tropes of horror films to make a point about the genre itself
Honestly, "the CDC has announced that vaccinated people can now punch unvaccinated people in the face" alone sounds like a Twitter shitpost and its kinda funny
I have a friend who used to be a conservative (he isn't really anymore), and he used to send me Babylon Bee articles. A couple of them occasionally made me chuckle and had some funny bits in them, but they just got progressively worse and worse until they just didn't even have a funny line in any of their stuff. They have a couple jokes, "trans bad", "aoc is dumb", and "cancel culture bad" and any sort of comedic value has gone out the window
Yes, cats can have multiple fathers in their litters. My female stray was accosted by four males and gave birth to kittens that looked nothing like each other. Kinda wild.
Exactly!! I’m so sick of them acting like conservative Christians have never tried to cancel something. I literally saw with my very own eyes as they tried to cancel Teletubbies, Harry Potter, Pokémon, Arthur and more. I didn’t live through it, but they also tried to cancel the Beatles during their active years. Not to mention a lot of the current and past book banning. And so much of this was literally preached from pulpits.
@@carolineholland5841 They don't act like it they are just pointing out their opossition doing it.. Seriously, do you want them to say "Yes conservatives have done this before as well" everytime before they call out their opossition? You're just pointing out nothing.
@@iamaphantom6905 Then, what's the joke? The joke they're making is "leftists are sensitive and cancel people over petty things." If they do it too then it's not funny it's just hypocrisy. They aren't even being properly ironic about it, like if they jabbed themselves too (self-owns can be funny).
While depressing and dark, George Carlin's political comedy was definitely meant to make one laugh AND think critically. I don't think we'll have another comedian like that. Even if i didn't agree with some of his criticisms, most of his commentary was spot on and goddamned hilarious.
4:39 “if you’re getting angry with the audience for not finding your jokes funny then maybe just write funnier jokes”this is so true! I’ve said something similar so many times to my family because they’re like the worst of the worst when it comes to people who think being offensive and insulting is a personality trait and they always pull the “its a joke, you’re so sensitive” but its like no dude its just not funny lol anyways thanks for making this video.
Political comedy can be controversial in many ways. It's more than just poking fun at political figures; it goes way deeper than that. We appreciate your analysis, Tara. May God bless you.
It seems to me that conservative comedy comes from a place of "libs are ridiculous, let's laugh at them!" Which... okay? But you need to have a punchline in there somewhere?? But their target audience laughs, so I guess that's a win. Kitties! 💞
The problem with all of this is... there is no joke. There's the set up but there's little to no pay off to reward the audience for listening. Ignoring the fact that their jokes are just the reframing of genuine Conservative talking points with little to no irony, they are not jokes. It's what makes it so awkward. Like I genuinely liked the unvaccinated joke because there was a set up and a little punchline. The white boy muppet almost got me because of the the abrupt cut after he said "sorry". But the other ones were just... eh.
It really shouldn't be that hard to make funny jokes about how ridiculous liberals can be... other liberals and being on the left manage to do it all the damn time!
as a trans person I don't know whether to laugh at these sorry excuses for people or just be depressed but like hell I'd get depressed over this shit I'm gonna live and be happy out of spite of these clowns if nothing else it's like they really have nothing to enjoy in their life so they try to compensate by trying to make other people more miserable than them
As a fellow trans person, I’ve dealt with most of the really bad shit in my life by laughing about it. Like when I was crying in the school library after finding out my mom outed me, and my friends were comforting me, and some guy came up to us and was like “hey, can you take this somewhere else?” Like i can look back at what was a really horrible moment, and also laugh at the audacity of that guy
I'm so relieved you weren't seriously injured when your bathroom ceiling collapsed! I can't even imagine the stress of the situation 😥 I hope you're all sorted and doing alright!!
Those who joke about politics, race, or religion as their primary gig are doing what I call “heated comedy.” I think it’s cheap, but there is an art to it and it’s called Read The Room. It’s like when u wanna share some tea. Ya can’t throw “Jane’s man a ho” right from the start. First ya gotta see where they stand with Jane, test the waters a bit. I see how y’all be scheming to get me up in ur cackle sins! So with heated comedy, u gotta throw out a lil tidbit insult first, see how that crowd responds. The problem is that comedians depend so entirely on the one gig that a poorly responding room doesn’t stop em until a bouncer has to step in. These “heated comedians” are one trick ponies, like suddenly famous influencers. Fueled by negative fame, eventually even their most sincerest of fans aren’t petty enough to say hate Trump for over half a decade or whatever, ya kno
Cats can indeed have two baby daddies! Learned that when we got our kitten felix when i was 10 or so. His brother in the same cage looked nothing like him and the shelter explained it to us!
I don’t know how SNL is still on. I can watch John Oliver, the Daily Show, Mitchell and Webb, Key and Peele, or Foil Arms and Hog and laugh harder in 10 seconds than I would watching SNL for hours on end.
I LOVE Mitchell & Webb! 2 of my fave comedians; those guys are great. Robert Webb's autobio "How Not To Be A Boy" is amazing- its theme is the bs of gender roles, & how toxic masculinity harms both men & the women in their lives.
I love how you said "I had to move suddenly because my bathroom ceiling collapsed, woops!"😂 a casual reaction to a random disaster😂. That line alone is funnier than Babylon bee's entire content
I saw an article that said a McDonald's in Denmark was offering $50 an hour during an extreme staffing shortage. People were saying if they could afford that during a staffing crunch, they could probably afford it on a regular basis most likely. The article also made sure to stress that workers in Denmark get socialized medicine, a month in vacation time or something like that, and a bunch of other perks that Americans don't get just on the regular. They ALSO made sure to point out the cost of the food is the same as in the States. So yeah, they can fucking afford it, they just don't want to pay it because they're cheap and like their millions in bonuses.
My answers 1. People who make political comedy have an axe to grind, which is never funny. 2. It is not creative. The best comedy is in my opinion based on observations which are unusual or somehow not quite commonplace. 3. Anyone who considering these things does it is anyway simply probably not that interesting of a person. Yeah. And I really agree with your point about the motivation too. It's just a good faith thing, where the audience knows the intention is just to make people laugh, which something that has a political point can usually not achieve.
So they started as a intentional satire of evangelical culture, they got bought out and became unintentional satire of evangelical culture. The sad part is that the typical evangelical probably spends more time thinking about cultural-political issues than they do about their religion.
Here's something new I learned: The Chicks changed their name from "The Dixie Chicks" because "Dixie" derives from the Mason-Dixon Line that separated slave-owning and free states and is used to nostalgically reference the American South during the 20th century. TLDR: it's rooted in racism, hence the name change.
Here's an Atlantic article about it: www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/06/what-dixie-really-means/613585/
Out of curiosity (and because I'm a bit ill and too lazy to look it up) - what did they change their group's name to? Is it just "The Chicks"?
Excellent video (as always) it's nice to see you again. You seem rather well and look great.
@@searchingfororion Yep, just The Chicks now!
I respect them for it.
Funny story: when I went to Summer camp as a child, the invisible line to separate the girl's side of camp and the boy's side of camp was called the Mason-Dixon line. And by funny, I mean horrible.
And “chicks” is derogatory to women and girls, so then they’ll change their name to “The”.
"The alphabet is problematic because it doesn't have enough letters to represent all the genders" is one fuckstorm of a sentence that I wasn't expecting to hear
Leave it to the book burners to not know that words exist.
Would’ve worked better as something like “while the alphabet does contain all of the Good Letters, it also needlessly includes the letter S, which we all know stands for Straights”. You could make that joke from either side.
@@cerumen You are not funny
oh yeah i was hearing that one in 2016...........before it actually.
The worst part is this could be developed into an actual joke by poking fun at our inability to come up with a good name to represent people of non standard sexualities. Instead we use the mouthful that is the alphabet maphia.
Unfortunately I am not funny so I cannot quite think of the joke myself.
The only genuinely funny thing anyone at the Babylon Bee has ever said is “Wow, women. Now *there’s* a gender!”
it sounds like a post you would find in tumblr
“Shout out to women, gotta be one of my favourite genders fr 💯🙏🏾”
There have been... a handful of funny headlines. Though even some of those, like Kayne releasing an album named My Struggle, are morally dubious, since, to reference the Alt-Right Playbook, that's just them pretending to be white collaborators
I think the "migrant cages now rainbow colored for pride month" could actual be a good joke if it were critiquing the shallowness of liberalism in the same vein as the 👏 more 👏 female 👏 drone 👏 pilots 👏 joke but they really missed it.
@@AustinHulslander That's just conservative comedy in general. The punchline is actually the outrage of some imagined liberal reading it, so bizarrely often, their concepts could also work as Onion articles criticizing conservatives
These folks pretending to care about Harry Potter- the far right, when HP was starting to soar in popularity, were so outraged by these books that my older sister came home from youthgroup one day and started yelling at me for reading books that taught evil witchcraft- on purpose! What a world we live in!
Right? I had so many friends growing up who were not aloud to read Harry Potter, they where not even aloud to read Lord of the Rings, which is by a Christian author!
Now JK Rowling is their hero?
@@alicine-sims8988 it makes sense when you remember that the American right's only real goal is to maximize suffering
I hate those books because they're dumb and have replaced real literature... Nothing to do with god, sorcery, or politics. In 2003 when 30-yzar-olds were reading them, I was like, welcome to late Rome...
I think our minority world’s Anglophone pop culture has been screwed over by ridiculous amounts of coporatisation since as early as seventy years ago.
the left want to "cancel" rowling because she constantly spreads propaganda that causes actual harm to actual people; the right have apparently forgotten the time they "cancelled" rowling for… writing a series of books about magic and wizards.
"Men. What a gender." and "wow, women. Now there's a gender!" made me chuckle
Sounds like something you'll see on Tumblr
The universe. What a concept.
No as a tumblr user this is true. That was funny because I love 'Thats one of the things of all time!' comedy but then it got to "Ummmmm...Only Two Gender 😂" comedy
Thursday, what a gender!
@@g4yb0ybl1tz7 reminds me of that time Ben Shapiro got mad that schools were teaching that "there are multiple genders." Mans was so adamant about there only being two genders, that he accidentally said there was only one gender
@@Gloomdrake and it’s my turn with it!
The Babylon bee: Ha ha misgendering funny
The Onion: MAN REALIZES HE’S THE HAMBURGER DIPSHIT ALL HIS COWORKERS ARE TALKING ABOUT
Or transform your road rage into road revenge
Or how crystal meth can improve your financial situation, your marriage and community
or teens increasingly selling more pure uranium
You can put your weed in there
@@sacrilegioussasquatch you can put your weed in there
Comedians taking themselves too seriously is 10/10 irony
anytime a comedian starts thinking they and their work are capital "I" Important they lose the ability to be genuinely funny
Yeah like we owe them laughter.
I'm so tired I thought you wrote Canadians
@@adi4748 them too
@@TricksterModeEngaged also when a comedian fails to hide that their 'jokes' are strictly coming from a place of anger--any time you're trying to be funny while essentially just ranting, you end up looking like a lunatic.
The worst thing is how all the conservatives & even the Babylon Bee themselves say that their style of comedy nowadays isn't to make you laugh, but to laugh at the leftists who don't think it's funny. How bad at comedy do you have to be to claim you're doing it on purpose 🤨
Next time I publicly tell a joke that bombs I'm totally busting out that reasoning
They think that they're laughing at people who get triggered by what they say. In reality those people think what they say is boring and lame because their material is seriously outdated and played out. They just use lame locker room humor and whatnot. It's really no different that when trump made fun of that reporter by making a gimp arm pose. Juvenile and outdated
You know the Bee is unfunny when they could literally just replace their videos with someone making fart noises into a microphone for 5 minutes l and get more laughs doing so.
@@PinkyJujubean "juvenile and outdated"
It's interesting how sometimes other people find words for how you feel about sth.
Like right now, it honestly just dawned on me that conservative "comedy" most often elicits the same feeling in me like hearing some fart joke in an Adam Sandler movie. Just couldn't really put the finger on it before.
BabylonBee must occasionally realise that their audience are "people who are offended by the Onion" and think "shit, we should lie about our intent".
Who cares about first, I proclaim myself present
You've made the list.
I hope you get a lot of likes for this.
@@chickenwaffles if they don't stay the top comment, I'm gonna be pissed
Thank you for being here
Congrats
One of the reasons that I think there's SO much anti-trans "comedy" out there is because transphobia is seen as a sort of "last frontier" in terms of bigotry that's seen as acceptable to spew to the general public. Obviously, some people still use racist/sexist/etc. jokes, but for some reason I feel like transphobia is just treated as generally more okay nowdays, which makes me very sad. It's like we're seen as the lowest sort of people.
It’s sad, but I very much agree with you. For the right-wing, it’s their last shot to propel bigotry through their “comedy”, now that they can’t be as openly racist or homophobic. Hopefully as time goes on people will become more accepting and less bigoted.
Not necessarily the lowest, but the most outnumbered, which means you can safely disrespect them without having to face the embarrassment that comes with offending someone you know or someone who's is the room.
I would argue fatphobia is the other one, bc it’s rooted in anti blackness
@@hinoname3954 Oh, totally! It's SHOCKING to see the amount of fatphobia online, and how it pops up in the most inappropriate places. :(
Yeah I hate it. You can do literally nothing wrong and people will still find a reason to hate you. That's why you just learn to ignore the qualms of random people and just live your life. If people wanna find me repulsive for being comfortable in my own skin, then fine. I just don't deal with them
The Dixie Chicks thing really hit me bc no memory is stronger than when I was watching a bulldozer go over a bunch of their albums on the national news (being celebrated too) and thinking "am...I bad for having their CDs?" I was 5? And my conservative grandparents told me YES I WAS. I had to throw away the CD! It wasn't until I was 20 I learned what had happened.
Your strongest memory comes from a news clip you watched?!
Maybe you should take a second to think about that.
@@felixoupopote you need to read. It wasn't just the news clip, it was the conversation where I thought I was a bad person for having their CDs and my grandparents said I was resulting in me throwing away a CD at 5 years old
@@felixoupopoteThey were 5.
People who say "why does comedy have to be so political nowadays" are the same people who will watch a comedian complain about cancel culture and trans people for an hour straight -- as if that's not political
I find that they see themselves as a true zero neutral position from which everything else is a deviation, rather than just being another point in a spectrum that has no neutral point.
@@Oxios Its because thats what they've been taught. Christianity essentially teaches that they are true zero and everything else is a deviant.
it's ok to say Dave Chapelle
@@raveneskridge3143but never three times in front of a mirror. Particularly if you are trans 👀
It shouldn't be political, that's the thing.
I think a lot of people think freedom of speech means freedom from social consequences for saying horrible things
yeah, pretty much lol. they fail to understand that they CAN say whatever they want, but everyone else can also practice free speech to criticize them. they see that criticism as "an attack on their free speech".
In a free society, you should not face any ‘social consequences’ for expressing an opinion. It is not unreasonable to not want to be attacked for doing so.
@@OvalRock so... people shouldn't be allowed to express dislike for things others say? lol
In all seriousness, if I have to spell it out, freedom of speech doesn't protect transphobes from being clowned on. People sooner ask to not be criticized, like ovalrock here, for their opinions than think about why so many people disagree with them. I would propose that ovalrock's request is, in fact, unreasonable. Attacking, as in harassment, is another thing, but "social consequences" aren't limited to harassment. People absolutely get to shun you, criticize you, disagree with you, debate you, etc.
@@Casocki A person who expresses an opinion should be challenged, if a challenge exists. However that person should not be harassed, critised, shunned, etc, for that opinion. That amounts to punishment.
10:35 reminds me of that episode of Bojack Horseman where Bojack does something shitty and apologizes to Todd but Todd goes off on him saying he can't just keep saying sorry and continuing to be a shitty person. Man, that show hits you in the feels while also managing to be hilarious.
Not to mention that BoJack has a horrid early home life which still disaffects him for the rest of his life.
I remember reading an insightful remark someone made about how the Babylon Bee’s output was not jokes but “joke-shaped”: like, they’re following the conventions of the form, but they don’t actually get _why_ things are funny
Ha! That's actually funny!
When a conservative says "freedom of speech" it honestly registers in my head now as "lets go back to the days where the uppity minorities didn't have a voice and were silenced so we could say whatever we want" and it definitely makes their sentences make more sense.
"Free speech for me, not for thee", basically.
@@beth7935 indeed! I say that a lot actually. :p Their want for "free speech" is pretty much solely driven by the want to say slurs. They want freedom of consequences, that's for sure. But they only want to be free of consequences. It's okay if someone gets fired for being gay or trans or horrendous workplace abuse such as constant misgendering or harassment or not being able to go to the bathroom. But if someone gets fired for being horrifically racist and homophobic? That's INFRINGING ON MUH FREE SPEECH! Funny how the people that have a hard on for businesses not being able to sell things to gay people & love private corps treading all over our rights as people suddenly don't want businesses being able to do whatever they want. Firing someone over bigotry is too far, but stealing billions in wages and discriminating? Nah that's fine.
Pretty sure freedom of speech includes everyone, and those "uppity minorities" are conservative themsleves
@@mo.ka.9661 Given that your comment has been hidden, I am going to assume you frequently post hateful things on youtube.
But no, it doesn't include those groups. You are just biased to think so. A couple of minorities fighting against the best interest of their community is not "evidence" that they're wrong. If one side is saying overwhelmingly one thing, and a few on the other side are being lifted up because of their identity to "prove them wrong" that isn't a good sign. The right loves identity politics. As long as it's good for them.
And no, minorites were regularly subjected to physical violence, sometimes even worse. We were silenced on every form of society. We still are today, just at a much lesser extent. Though it still happens. I would know because I grew up in a christian conservative household where my parents hate LGBTQ people, which I am two of those things, and so is my partner. My mom, when she assumed I was dating my partner when I went to visit him, told me not to tell anyone and keep it a secret, clearly gets upset anytime I talk about it, regularly says slurs, and called me a slur to my face and told me she thinks I'm possessed by a demon or "misled by the internet or my friends" and blames being a furry partly. I can't talk about these things with them because they'll get upset due to them being uninformed, bigoted, hateful, and unwilling to change, it would be more trouble for me, not them.
Minorities are still regularly silenced, and violence is still common. Not as much as they once were, but it's still very common. Once again, freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. If you say something awful and get fired, you had the freedom to not say that, but you did. Then, the company reacts accordingly by firing you. Just because you say something doesn't mean people have to begrudgingly take it. The only one that can't censor your speech is the government, and that's still subject to exceptions such as breaking laws.
You can't ignore the phrasing here when right wing people say these things, simply "freedom of speech" makes no sense, because they are regularly saying these things. They want freedom of consequence, to say anything as hateful and abusive as they want without pushback. They are upset they can't say the most hateful stuff ever and then call it "censorship" when it's very clearly not. You said it, others responded. That's how its always gone. They are not silenced and have a large platform to say hateful, harmful things, yet pretend they're silenced. You play by the rules of the platform, or you're banned, that's that. Even then, that's quite rare for a right winger to get in trouble unless it borders on physical violence or extreme language, sometimes even then it's not, such as libsoftiktok, who regularly does call to violences on minorities.
Freedom of Speech in America = "I want to solute Hitler and take my KKK hood off in publics and not be ridiculed for being a 💩bag."
The funnest part of Babylon Bee is that their viewers often will post it's articles in defense of whatever crusade they're currently on thinking they're a legitimate news source when it say right on their Twitter account they're satire.
True that🤦🤣
yeah lots of people doing that, definitely not making fun of people.
There is nothing more delusional than the western left wing, lmao.
@@HMouse123 are transwomen women?
@@jay1jayf yes
@@jay1jayf they are, women are much more than just genitals and the ability to carry a child
okay but the “10 exciting new pronouns to try out today” is actually very funny, just not for the reason babylon bee thinks it is
BB's best anti-trans jokes sound like legit shitposts actual trans people would make. Along the lines with how I joke about going to the mall to get my orchiectomy done at Claire's.
They honestly should take notes from trans posters. Gotta be some of the best posters out there
It definitely got some of the trans meme groups I'm in vibes to it
the subtext is "if you so much as THINK of trying these pronouns we will get so DARN MAD" and the thought of that is very funny indeed
This idea of MiLIonS Of GEndeRS comes from the fact that gender experience is something very personal. As such many people don't feel like they fit into the 2/3 genders system. So they create own labels
But this "10 exciting new pronouns to try out today" suggest that in our capitalist hell-scape even something as personal as neo genders has been commercialized
Which is sadly something I can see happening in the future
The problem is that it's never being done for the purpose of comedy alone. At least to me it never feels that way. It's always about trying to poke the buttons of the viewers/audience to get a reaction.
The other problem is that it gets hammered into the ground. Everyone is doing it and you expect it. And you just don't want to hear about these political figures anymore. Even in joke form. It tires you out.
Thats actually true. I was reading that the reason BB continues with trans jokes is because it is the highest rated and viewed content for them. So that says alot about the humor of its followers.
The joke is never actually the joke... the REAL joke is the imaginary liberals shaking their fist in anger at them
They dont get that political comedy is supposed to make fun of the system, not that people they dont understand, exist.
"Do you have any jokes that identify as funny?" is my response to these people
Realistically they'd probably find a way to recycle that comment into a less funny joke for their channel
The band actually goes by The Chicks now! They changed their name because of some historical connotations with their old name, so they're actually consistently pretty based.
Yeah. The Chicks were one of the few Southern groups that were usually on the right side of things back when they were banned for protesting George Bush, to accepting that their name reflects thee glorification of the Daughters of Confederacy, being racist.
Badass indeed.
I enjoyed the take that one of the first examples of cancel culture was when the right did it to The Chicks because they said something about George W Bush that they didn't like.
What conservative comedians don’t seem to get is that when you’re punching down it just comes off as cruel and mean spirited, which is the huge difference between just ignoring a bad comedian and actively hating them.
All conservative humor is concerned about is owning the libs, making fun of people they don't like, and being "right." Case in point, watch Tim Allen's show Last Man Standing. He finds out his grandson is into art and he's all "grrr art? Thats not manly!"
That's rule 1 of comedy. Even way above "Don't explain the joke": Always punch up, never punch down.
@@andrea2kx If he hates the arts one wonders why the hell he's an actor.
Yeah, but how do you know which way is "down"? That's subjective. You may think joking about transgenders is "punching down", but for a conservative, that's "punching up".
@@Kirsanov “transgenders” is not the proper term. Simply transgender people will do. I also wouldn’t say the perception that it’s punching up is valid considering many of us are fighting for the legal right to just exist and race near daily discrimination, they can perceive it however they want but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s actively hurtful to a group of people who it’s still considered relatively okay to belittle and mock.
"People want to pretend comedians are modern day philosophers. Which I think is pretty insulting to, y'know, modern day philosophers." - Norm Macdonald
How is their "top 2 genders thing" literally just the "shoutout to women's day gotta be one of my favorite genders." That's literally already a common meme
I think the “A Quiet Place” animation accidentally made a really good point about conservative people, because all they had to do was not state their political affiliations until the monster was gone and they would have been safe, yet still the woman felt the need to talk about how minimum wage shouldn’t be raised while they were trying to hide.
Ik, that one to me kinda seemed more like it was meant to make fun of conservatives lol (But honestly, they're all like that to me... 😅) That just goes to show how bad they are at writing comedy.
@@Muffinn_CakesExactly. They want free speech with no consequence.
Drinking challenge: take a shot every time the one gender joke is made and enjoy the sweet release of death by the end of this video. It's a win-win!
Okay but like can we talk about how their unfunny non-joke didn't even make any sense? Who on the face of this dogforsaken planet would get offended by the word "Asian"? They could've at least gone with "We've realized that the word 'Caucasian' has a geographical indication and since the character isn't from Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Southwestern Russia, or Northeastern Turkey we decided to change it.". But I'm sure they could never think of that since they more than likely don't know a single thing about world geography.
Like and a comment for "dogforsaken" 🐶
Its probably one of those things where they can't find anyone actually being mad about it, so they have to draw attention to it themselves and pretend like they heard it from the left
The problem is that realizing that would mean that they have an actual understanding of the other side's viewpoints? But they don't, they just have this weird absurd crazy strawman that nobody actually believes. So it's like they're specifically targetting a group of people over something that is just a complete fabrication.
It would be like if I made a bit about a doctor who looks like Trump forcing a woman to give birth at gunpoint. Like, you get the satire, it's about how people on the right are anti-abortion, but it wouldn't really land at all because it's not a thing. It doesn't follow from any of their arguments that they'd threaten to kill a pregnant woman, right? It'd flop super hard. But if I made a sketch about, say, kids arming up with guns to stop mass shootings like they're a small army, then that'd probably work way better because it's actually an extension of conservative gun control beliefs, just taken to an extreme position.
I dunno, I feel like that makes sense, at least.
One of my friends is a geography expert, and HATES being called Caucasian, because he's from Denmark, not the Caucasus Region.
The only person I've ever known who got offended by the word "Asian" was an American who got angry that I said Dev Patel was "British Asian" apparently unaware that "Asian" generally means "South Asian" in the UK rather than "East Asian".
He was offended that India is a part of Asia
20:21 this could pass as a relevant critique of rainbow capitalist liberals if the babylon bee wasn't so fundamentally incapable of forming a coherent thought
I was thinking the same thing!
It somewhat passes as is, although being placed between mediocre "jokes" doesn't help it.
For real! The joke is good but the delivery killed any chance it had of ever being funny.
Honestly the rainbow paint on migrant cages was a pretty solid critique of *state sanctioned* rainbow capitalism.
the worst part to me is that they WRITE THIS like it's NOT EVEN IMPROV they BRAINSTORM this shit for HOURS just to be less funny than literal small talk
Brainstorm implies they have brains
"Less funny than literal small talk" is the best thing ever
Honestly, if it was done by a queer person I think a Top 10 Genders video would actually be kinda funny
And the title of the video wouldn't be the entire joke either. It would be a set up/ framing for a bunch of different funny observations about gender identity and queerness
There's actually already a video similar to that. Pretty sure it's called "Gender tier list" and is made by jreg. It's a pretty positive, open-minded, inclusive and funny video where jre tries to understand, discuss and rate the genders based on how wacky and extreme they are and based on the comments, queer people seem to like it. One person even said that it was better allyship than most serious educational conent lol. There's a lot of irony, but by the end jreg seems very accepting and genuinely admiring of all the wacky and fun genders and even embraces it.
as an nb person.......i kinda wanna do that as a sh1tpost.
Next on our list is... none! No gender. Ah, agender people, so devoid of gender. Such a void into which gender falls and never re-emerges.
Wait, if this gender is no gender, should it be on the list?
ikr lmao
My jaw DROPPED when I saw Annamarie Forcino it was like when a celebrity was on your favorite Disney show as a kid, truly an iconic combo
They truly do form a terrific duo.
I love celeb camos
I love how Anna mentioned that the BB brings up the issues with performtive allyness. And honestly if it just changed the angle to that then I think some of their jokes actually become bitting satire (I.e. Rainbow cages). But no they're blissfully unaware and just keep talking past what minortieis actually are saying and want.
Their joke is that the Left is as callous and hypocritical as they are---and thus, nobody *really* cares, and so their own lack of caring is entirely normal and therefore beyond moral reproach.
Hot take: Repetition killing humor is why memes have such a short halflife. The bigger a meme gets, the less funny it becomes.
Frigging true indeed.
Unless your chronically online. Than you have the chance of the memes becoming your very life blood.
@@trampoline11x exactly, like i still use the sus meme XD
Thank you for bringing up the Dixie Chicks. They didn't deserve the hate they got for being right.
I've seen a lot of good political comedy. But a recurring theme that marks the good stuff is the critique/satire of actual POLICIES and not just mocking a public figure. Which to be fair is kinda tough to write, considering the fact that would require the audience to have a vague notion of the policy decisions in question.
That's a really great point. Good political comedy, with the understanding that comedy itself is subjective, is that which demonstrates the nonsensical and often dangerous nature of the POLICIES. It's right in the name of the genre, unless these people don't understand what "political" means even though they're commenting on it. George Carlin was the absolute best at doing this, in fact he's the most famous and successful political comedian of all time. But he didn't call out people, he called out ideas. He broke them down into real world hypotheticals to show their absurdity, lack of common sense and validity, and made it clear as day that the policies do not, cannot, work. And he did it using humor but the material practically writes itself because it's so ludicrous to begin with.
This is why conservative comedians, or anyone trying to "own the libs", are never in on the joke. Since these are their own policies, they don't see how funny it is to those who actually do have common sense and know how to keep our minds open.
So this is their reaction to it.
The UK does political comedy reasonably well. Sometimes they edge into mocking the person rather then the policy - but usually its only at someone who won't ever care about their awful politics being criticised but will get genuinely upset at being called names or compared to inanimate objects (like on Have I Got News For You when a guest declined to show up last minute so they replaced him with a literal tub of lard. He'd have gotten a softer touch if he showed up like he promised and didn't kick up a fuss about it, but of course he whined so much they kept the joke going for quite a while longer until its all he's known for now). But mostly its mocking the ridiculousness of the situation and the weird justifications given for said bad policies. Or quite often ripping on their hypocrisy.
agreed.
@@andromidius One of the reasons why I absolutely adore Katherine Ryan's comedy! She's British by nationality and Canadian by birth, with equal shit to throw at both. She's also beautiful, tall, blonde, vivacious, wildly intelligent, quick witted (audience interactions, quiz shows), and firm but open minded. I love her ❤
Reminds me of the, "California had to put oil drilling and vaping indoors on the SAME BILL to get people to stop!" Genuinely humorous.
Also law makers bundled the two on the same bill in hopes Californians would legalize the off-shore oil drilling because they wouldn't want to give up their vapes.
I did laugh at the punch in the face joke about unvaccinated people. But bear in mind my favorite thing is to laugh at the awkwardness that follows an unfunny joke.
It's somewhat funny that the person next to them decks them out of nowhere. But the vaccination joke wasn't hitting
@@shroomshroom5945 i agree! Though I interpreted it as some other person running into the studio to punch him in the face the moment they heard the news. The vaccine joke is plain unfunny but the literal punchline is good.
Me, I pictured swinging a two-by-four mid- "I WILL NOT COMPL--"
Yeah I chuckled at the punching because it was random but not the actual joke
@@shroomshroom5945 it wasn't ✨ hitting✨ 👊
They definitely do expect to just be forgiven for saying 'oh sorry' because that's literally what christian prayer is. They can be as awful as they want and know they'll be forgiven by the voice in their head.
1. do terrible things
2. apologize, but not a good aplogy ("I'm sorry that _you're upset"_ or "I'm sorry _you feel that way")_
3. get all offended when people don't immediately treat you like you never did anything wrong at all.
He sounded sarcastic as shit saying that bruh..
Actually no, that’s not how it works. Maybe that’s how some people lie to themselves, but you cannot have the mindset that you “can do whatever you like and just say sorry later.” That’s the fakest of fake Christians at work.
If one was truly remorseful, they’d changed their attitude at the core to prevent future sins (be it in thought, words, actions) and seek to nurture future holiness/goodness/love within themselves.
Knowing you have forgiveness for anything bad you do later is more a reassurance to a truly changed individual, a “you’re doing your best to improve, you’ll mess up sometimes but that’s forgiven because you’ve changed and are changing your life around for Christ.”
@@zachanikwano You're right about that attitude being fake Christianity in the sense that it doesn't really reflect the teaching of Christ, but I'd argue that more people who call themselves Christians think the other way, so in a sense, that is what Christianity is in the real world.
Yep they believe you can be the worst person in the world and as long as you get to say sorry at the end you'll get a reward.
I actually laughed at the "vaccinated people can now legally punch unvaccinated people" *gets decked by co host but doesnt react* bit but everything else sucks
Yup. Me too. But maybe that's just because of physical comedy, and I kinda *like* the idea of being able to legally punch an anti-vaxxer. I also just smiled at the monster out of "Quiet place" because I just enjoyed recognising which film they were parodying.
i did laugh at that bit. the timing was good
I gotta say, “powerful words from a piece of felt” is the closest they came to comedy in this whole thing
Pointedly an apolitical joke
Conservatives almost know how to make a joke, but miss at the last second because the intent is so nakedly stupid. A better comedian could literally tell the exact same joke, but actually be funny cuz they're satirising the way disingenuous apologies/statements are so cringe it's funny. The Amazon show the boys makes this joke a bunch, but knows how to make it funny and it works
My conservative Christian mother often sends me Babylon bee headlines, but fortunately for me they’re only the ones that poke fun at Christians, which I usually find funny! Super unfortunate that they went from making fun of, ostensibly, themselves/ a majority group to unfunny jokes about minority groups
The Babylon Bee was original more of “the Onion for Christians”, then “the Onion for conservatives”. I remember Christian family members reposting Babylon Bee articles back in the day, and they were mostly poking fun at Christian culture. The RUclipsr José has a video about them, and points out the site took a decidedly more political turn when the original creator left the company.
Yeah that uses to be their thing. They were meant as comedy for Christians, about Christians, and contained a lot of self depreciating humor and observations about quirky things within Christian culture.
Nowadays they've just turned into a completely mean spirited, unfunny conservative rag. Unfortunately, that's probably made them way more money...
Yeah I used to quite enjoy some of those articles as a left leaning Christian they were a good bit of fun, but I absolutely hate the strawmaning and punching down they're doing at the moment
The Babylon Bee has gone into the same corporate sphere as the Disney company. True for any corporation, period.
Idk if this was intentional but I love that the placement of each of your monitors makes it look like AnnaMarie is sitting on the floor in front of you and she’s basking in the glow of your presence ✨😂
It's like she's Queen Tara, the microphone is her scepter, and she's granting a royal audience to one of her adoring subjects 👑
every video I think "that cow is going to run out of excuses eventually"
that cow needs to visit her canadian bullfriend.
I did leave a comment saying "show the da!m cow"
it baffles me that they're only pro free speech for themselves, like guys, people critiquing you- even attacking you- is also free speech
Me: Zoning out mid-ad, thinking it's for an electric toothbrush
Tara: you can use it with your partners.
Me: sorry what
like the girl defined lady
@@TaraMooknee You can use the girl defined with your partner ??!
I know the motorcycle thing was in reference to Lia thomas, and Id just like to say that she wasn't miraculously going from like 400th place to first place. She was consistently around 8th place and around 8 to 9 seconds behind the male record in 2018. She started estrogen in 2019 and her place drastically dropped as she transitioned, until she had been on estrogen long enough to be allowed to play in women's sports. She was still 9 or 8 seconds behind the women's record, and yes she has won some races, but she's also lost plenty and come dead last in some.
That is disingenuous.
From wki:
The March 2022 NCAA championship was Thomas's last college swimming event.[28] By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.[29][17] According to the swimming data website Swimcloud, Thomas is ranked 36th among female college swimmers in the United States for the 2021-2022 season,[19] and 46th among women swimmers nationally
And the joke was so bad that I didn't even get the reference
@@laulau194 Exactly. The most notable thing about it was that they used the same web design as Huffington Post.
@@markprice5651 damn 46th place such an overwhelming advantage, tell me who are the other 45 trans women ranking above her?
@@markprice5651 From that same wiki, all except one of Thomas's personal best records are from before she transitioned. Seems like you're the one being disingenuous, as all transphobic pieces of shit tend to be.
Babylon Bee is just a satire of itself at this point, lol. Comedy that relies on punching down is always terrible, and they have driven it into the ground at this point. Thank you for making this video, this definitely needed to be covered by someone.
Comedy punching down is funny.
@@iamaphantom6905 to people with low intelligence I suppose. Considering the joke is almost exclusively "haha trans people are weird" "women aren't funny" "black kids don't have dad's" there's no punchline really.
@@AnimeLuver0604
I suppose low intellegence people who don't have a social life won't understand why it's funny.
@@iamaphantom6905 I'm not sure how being social would make "attack helicopter" funny. Unless I turned my brain off.
@@iamaphantom6905 if the punchline is an unfairly marginalised minority then it’s not exactly funny
To be fair the “rainbow pride month migrant cages” does actually sound like like something that could genuinely happen in the dystopia we live in. I could see the border police trying to make themselves seem nicer and in an out of touch move do something like that. I don’t think that was the point of their joke but it think it was scarily plausible
yeah I actually thought that was kinda funny, but not for the reason they hoped. It was more because "haha what an absurd twist on rainbow capitalism, good thing it isn't real? RIGHT?"
I was actually on board with the top 10 genders thing until they got to the actual punchline. The concept of ranking genders in a numbered list is really funny to me personally and someone with actual talent might be able to do something with it
Wait, the ‘cages for kids will now be rainbow for pride month’ Was actually funny, im impressed. It’s almost like a critique of rainbow capitalism. ‘Corporations gonna exploit, even with that rainbow logo’. I’m sure this was unintentional, but still made me laugh
I think you hit the nail on the head. Sometimes the funniest jokes comedians tell are ones at the expense of themselves or their "side". This is probably because the motivation is not bitterness or "scoring points" but just to genuinely poke fun at some of the ridiculous things they've seen people doing. I'm sure there are ways to poke fun at the other side successfully, but doing so over and over again starts to feel just like you don't have any other jokes to tell and it just sounds stale and bitter.
I honestly thought the Cracker Jack joke was going to land on renaming it "White Person"- which made a lot of sense with their progression. I think it could actually be a funny punchline for a different set up- or just a one-liner: "'Cracker Jack rebrands as 'White Person.'" They ruined what could have been the ONE redeeming part of that joke just because they wanted to be edgy and say "white power." very frustrating.
Very often they’ll almost make a passable joke but fail in the execution. That muppet bit would have been fine if they didn’t feel the need to explain that it’s because he’s white.
That's actually funny as hell as a one-liner
That joke is so obvious I was surprised they were so dedicated to transphobia that they blew right past the cracker jokes
Yeah, I could appreciate the "Cracker Jack is rebranding as Cracker Jill" as a one liner, thought they missed the mark on it, but I can still appreciate that.
But then they just KEPT GOING, like, when is that ever funny? Don't beat the dead horse.
Tara really used the term “moot point” when she could have quoted Joey with “moo point”…tsk tsk
Hahaha jk Tara is the best and once again has delivered a thoughtful and interesting video ❤
Have l lived with him for too long, or did that make sense?
But she thinks a cow's opinion matters so she can't possibly say that.
My parents still loved the Dixie chicks 😂 we had a bumper sticker that said " somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot" 🤣 but my parents were liberal and my mom was a union steward so they really didn't appreciate bush as president.
99% of political comedy is more focused on reaffirming its audiences main beliefs than actually being funny
Yes, perfect timing, Tara! I'm home sick and this is absolutely what the doctor ordered.
Hope your feeling better very soon
@@bethanythatsme thank you so much!
Get well soon. And just a trick my mom used for me when I was little: orange sherbet and sprite mixed. It'll settle the stomach a biit, and help cool you down a bit
@@tenebrousoul9368 thank you very much! those "mom tricks" are the best.
I’m absolutely delighted that Tara has made a comeback. I hope you’re doing well and we really missed you and your videos.
"made a comeback"? It's just a new video.
@@T.E.S.S.I was exaggerating and maybe being ironic.
I would rather have a friend who halfheartedly apologizes than a friend who never thinks they're wrong.
See, “the migrant children’s cage being pride colored for June” is ALMOST satire of corporate pride but their bigotry is too compelling for them, I guess?
The other thing is that all these conservative guys hold Carlin up as the apex of comedy when he was a progressive liberal who would regularly do long bits making fun of conservative political points of view?!
The worst kind of political humour is the kind that just says that the other side are stupid or immoral. The best kind of political humour doesn't go in this direction. It subverts lazy stereotypes of political positions because those stereotypes are too comforting.
e.g. Yes Minister presented its conservatives as clever, smart, devious - rather than stupid - because that then forces us to deal with them. Likewise, a good parody of left-wingers doesn't treat us as morally bankrupt because... that's both too easy, and not really accurate.
I think the problem is that a lot of bad political comedy is actually just cackhanded political rhetoric that doesn't want to do its research. So it's not about examining a position and finding the humour that exists within it. It's just about saying that a position is good or bad, and maybe encouraging people who agree to laugh so that they associate the message with that little endorphin rush.
Its kinda funny in itself that the Babylon bee can only be funny on accident
You unironically said "on accident".
@@mikemiken1963 Darling I don’t know if you know this but “on accident” are two real words that form one real phrase. It’s ok not everyone knows everything
Americans say "on accident" and "on line for the new iphone". Brits say "by accident" and "in line for the new iphone".
I honestly thought the joke about Cracker Jack renaming its brand would be something like, getting renamed to "Saltine Jack" because "cracker" is racist. Alas.
Unfortunately for white people who think cracker is racist most white people of even their own ethnic group disagree a large majority do not think it’s racist in essence though to be fair anything can be racist with the right tone
@@augustuslunasol10thapostleIf it doesn't bother you that's fine (doesn't bother me), but it's pretty blatantly racist.
@@anon6000 depends who you ask tbh the origins of cracker is white men cracking whips to scare or hurt black slaves
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle And? The term "negro" just means "black" in Portuguese. As used, the term cracker is used to negatively describe people on the basis of their race.
I thought it would go that direction too, since conservative Christians want to be the victim so bad, they could’ve even made jokes about there being a whole line of [insert censored slur] Jacks, since “cracker” is apparently just as bad as any other slur…
"Cages will be bathed in rainbow colors for Pride Month." This sounds like a joke a liberal would write about governments and corporations during Pride Month.
they were *so* close to getting it
@@TaraMooknee Truly a conservative self-own
My dad and I used to enjoy reading and sending Babylon Bee articles to each other. We always liked the ones poking fun at the church or ones that poked fun at mundane every-day things. We both stopped reading them after they got really mean spirited with their articles because they weren't funny anymore, just ugly.
Also I disagree that all satire is comedy. Most of the time it is, but it doesn't have to be, for example Scream is a satire of the horror genre, particular slashers, but it isn't a comedy, I wouldn't even class as a horror-comedy, but it still satire it's just exagrating the common tropes of horror films to make a point about the genre itself
Satire thriller ?
@@HamiltonIsLife I’d say it’s a horror satire - like Cabin In the Woods thought that is more comedic
Because it's not comedy with a political edge, it's propaganda with a humorous edge.
And the edge is so dull no one will ever cut themself on it
Okay, but “women. What a gender!” actually did make me laugh 😂
Honestly, "the CDC has announced that vaccinated people can now punch unvaccinated people in the face" alone sounds like a Twitter shitpost and its kinda funny
I have a friend who used to be a conservative (he isn't really anymore), and he used to send me Babylon Bee articles. A couple of them occasionally made me chuckle and had some funny bits in them, but they just got progressively worse and worse until they just didn't even have a funny line in any of their stuff. They have a couple jokes, "trans bad", "aoc is dumb", and "cancel culture bad" and any sort of comedic value has gone out the window
The difference between decent political comedy and shallow comedy is a simple matter of character over caricature
Yes, cats can have multiple fathers in their litters. My female stray was accosted by four males and gave birth to kittens that looked nothing like each other. Kinda wild.
Who else is tired of being "political" just by existing
I love when people try to defend themselves by saying that they're being cancelled for a joke, when really, the joke didn't land...
"...like t-shirts out of a t-shirt gun." It's this kind of understated poetry that keeps me coming back. 😀
Conservative Republican Christians are the first in cancel culture. Anyone else remember the Salem witch trials or the Red Scare?
Exactly!! I’m so sick of them acting like conservative Christians have never tried to cancel something. I literally saw with my very own eyes as they tried to cancel Teletubbies, Harry Potter, Pokémon, Arthur and more. I didn’t live through it, but they also tried to cancel the Beatles during their active years. Not to mention a lot of the current and past book banning. And so much of this was literally preached from pulpits.
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They don't act like it they are just pointing out their opossition doing it..
Seriously, do you want them to say "Yes conservatives have done this before as well" everytime before they call out their opossition?
You're just pointing out nothing.
@@iamaphantom6905 Then, what's the joke? The joke they're making is "leftists are sensitive and cancel people over petty things." If they do it too then it's not funny it's just hypocrisy. They aren't even being properly ironic about it, like if they jabbed themselves too (self-owns can be funny).
They also got their undies in a twist over things like rock music, Dungeons and Dragons, and Pokémon.
Thinking about how my old youth pastor showed Babylon Bee screenshots for fifteen minutes before the sermon and only the sophomore boys laughed
Based on everything I have heard about youth pastors, they seem to be the personification of the "how are you doing, fellow kids?" meme.
While depressing and dark, George Carlin's political comedy was definitely meant to make one laugh AND think critically. I don't think we'll have another comedian like that. Even if i didn't agree with some of his criticisms, most of his commentary was spot on and goddamned hilarious.
I just said the same thing in another comment.
Isn't Bill Blurr or what note somewhat the enxt GC?
Bo Burnham
comedians like him and bo burnham know how to be edgy while still being funny and not just attacking people.
@@ddjsoyenby Agreed. Bill Burr is a punch down comedian. Bo Burnham and Carlin are/were punch across/up comedians. Huge difference.
8:04 "Thrift stores, landfills no longer accepting Rapture fiction". That one got me good.
4:39 “if you’re getting angry with the audience for not finding your jokes funny then maybe just write funnier jokes”this is so true! I’ve said something similar so many times to my family because they’re like the worst of the worst when it comes to people who think being offensive and insulting is a personality trait and they always pull the “its a joke, you’re so sensitive” but its like no dude its just not funny lol anyways thanks for making this video.
The Chicks are still really great! I saw them in concert in the fall and their newest album “Gaslighter” is really great. They’re still pretty based !
Political comedy can be controversial in many ways. It's more than just poking fun at political figures; it goes way deeper than that. We appreciate your analysis, Tara. May God bless you.
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George Carlin did this pretty well
It seems to me that conservative comedy comes from a place of "libs are ridiculous, let's laugh at them!" Which... okay? But you need to have a punchline in there somewhere?? But their target audience laughs, so I guess that's a win.
Kitties! 💞
The problem with all of this is... there is no joke. There's the set up but there's little to no pay off to reward the audience for listening. Ignoring the fact that their jokes are just the reframing of genuine Conservative talking points with little to no irony, they are not jokes. It's what makes it so awkward. Like I genuinely liked the unvaccinated joke because there was a set up and a little punchline. The white boy muppet almost got me because of the the abrupt cut after he said "sorry". But the other ones were just... eh.
It really shouldn't be that hard to make funny jokes about how ridiculous liberals can be... other liberals and being on the left manage to do it all the damn time!
as a trans person I don't know whether to laugh at these sorry excuses for people or just be depressed
but like hell I'd get depressed over this shit I'm gonna live and be happy out of spite of these clowns if nothing else
it's like they really have nothing to enjoy in their life so they try to compensate by trying to make other people more miserable than them
As a fellow trans person, I’ve dealt with most of the really bad shit in my life by laughing about it. Like when I was crying in the school library after finding out my mom outed me, and my friends were comforting me, and some guy came up to us and was like “hey, can you take this somewhere else?”
Like i can look back at what was a really horrible moment, and also laugh at the audacity of that guy
Very happy to see Annamarie featured!! Y'all are very funny together, you should collab more often
It should be noted that mother cats are also called queens
I'm so relieved you weren't seriously injured when your bathroom ceiling collapsed! I can't even imagine the stress of the situation 😥 I hope you're all sorted and doing alright!!
Those who joke about politics, race, or religion as their primary gig are doing what I call “heated comedy.” I think it’s cheap, but there is an art to it and it’s called Read The Room.
It’s like when u wanna share some tea. Ya can’t throw “Jane’s man a ho” right from the start. First ya gotta see where they stand with Jane, test the waters a bit. I see how y’all be scheming to get me up in ur cackle sins!
So with heated comedy, u gotta throw out a lil tidbit insult first, see how that crowd responds. The problem is that comedians depend so entirely on the one gig that a poorly responding room doesn’t stop em until a bouncer has to step in.
These “heated comedians” are one trick ponies, like suddenly famous influencers. Fueled by negative fame, eventually even their most sincerest of fans aren’t petty enough to say hate Trump for over half a decade or whatever, ya kno
Too many dancing bears and single trick ponies.
Cats can indeed have two baby daddies! Learned that when we got our kitten felix when i was 10 or so. His brother in the same cage looked nothing like him and the shelter explained it to us!
very simple: effective comedy punches upward, whilst right-wing "comedy" always punches downward. It's a pretty straightforward rule of thumb.
I don’t know how SNL is still on. I can watch John Oliver, the Daily Show, Mitchell and Webb, Key and Peele, or Foil Arms and Hog and laugh harder in 10 seconds than I would watching SNL for hours on end.
I LOVE Mitchell & Webb! 2 of my fave comedians; those guys are great. Robert Webb's autobio "How Not To Be A Boy" is amazing- its theme is the bs of gender roles, & how toxic masculinity harms both men & the women in their lives.
@@beth7935 I love so many British sketch comedies. I’ve also got a soft spot for David Williams, Matt Lucas, and Tracey Ullman.
You are doing a great job of mixing in the funnies with the hard hitting essays. You rock!
Truly adore this channel. I don't have anything funny to say just really thrilled to be graced with another Mooknee special!
I love how you said "I had to move suddenly because my bathroom ceiling collapsed, woops!"😂 a casual reaction to a random disaster😂. That line alone is funnier than Babylon bee's entire content
I saw an article that said a McDonald's in Denmark was offering $50 an hour during an extreme staffing shortage. People were saying if they could afford that during a staffing crunch, they could probably afford it on a regular basis most likely. The article also made sure to stress that workers in Denmark get socialized medicine, a month in vacation time or something like that, and a bunch of other perks that Americans don't get just on the regular. They ALSO made sure to point out the cost of the food is the same as in the States. So yeah, they can fucking afford it, they just don't want to pay it because they're cheap and like their millions in bonuses.
My answers
1. People who make political comedy have an axe to grind, which is never funny.
2. It is not creative. The best comedy is in my opinion based on observations which are unusual or somehow not quite commonplace.
3. Anyone who considering these things does it is anyway simply probably not that interesting of a person. Yeah.
And I really agree with your point about the motivation too. It's just a good faith thing, where the audience knows the intention is just to make people laugh, which something that has a political point can usually not achieve.
So they started as a intentional satire of evangelical culture, they got bought out and became unintentional satire of evangelical culture.
The sad part is that the typical evangelical probably spends more time thinking about cultural-political issues than they do about their religion.
Its hard to take Babalyon Bee as satire, knowing that Conservatives, generally believe the logic they use unironically.
The show Atlanta pulled off a better "I identify as..." joke that was not tasteless, and was literally making fun of the people who use that joke.
When you said it was bad, I was NOT prepared for how bad it was
I genuinely don't get how they STILL only have 2 jokes like it's been years and they still can't think of any different ones
They're scared to branch out when they know they can get outrage clicks by doing the same thing over and over