My husband bought this electric violin for me as a gift and I panicked for a second after watching this video but Im able to use the Yamaha THR10II Desktop Amp , 10 with it and it working fine. I also bought a Female Stereo Audio Jack Adapter for Aux Cable, Guitar Amplifier, so that I can use the other controls on the amp and it sounds good! Just wanted to share in case it helps anyone.
I was about to buy it as well, and hopefully I've made a right choice. Thank you for your advise! You are the only person who helps classicals to understand how things work in this ROCK world. Best of luck and again BIG THANK YOU! You re the best!
Our pleasure! We definitely like this instrument as a practice violin, but not so much for performance. Do let us know if you need any help choosing a good performance instrument. We're available at info@electricviolinshop.com :)
Thank you SOOOO much! I was thinking about saving up for this violin since you can plug it into headphones. I thought there were two plugs and didn't know about this! Thank you!
That's great advice. If only I had watched this video before buying mine. It took me a minute to find out that it wasn't suitable for amplifiers. I swapped it for a bridge Aquila. Happy days!
Thank you!! Finally someone with an ounce of audio experience. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. I have seen literally dozens of videos of the Yamaha violins connected to all kinds of speakers. It's not just a practise violin. Nina Degregorio is a pro musician who uses the Yamaha 105 violins in her performances She says it is the best in terms of pro performance and price. That was huge for me. If it's good enough to be used in a pro setting, it's plenty good for me!
No it's not. But it can be made to work. 3,5mm jacks, especially headphone outputs (also on this violin) are stereo unbalanced. Which is something else than balanced mono TRS.
I bought a ysv104 and pretty worried after your review as I want it for silent practice and gigs. It excels through the dedicated ysv104 control box into headphones - helped by the active pickup. While the YEV104 probably sounds better through an amp - it has a passive pickup (and no control box) so not so good through headphones. For gigs I play the ysv into a Roland street cube via a LR Baggs Venue Isolator/DI box and very happy with the sound for folk/rock style. WIthout the LR Baggs it sounds fairly ordinary.
Amir, If you're buying the instrument to perform, then yes, I would cancel the order for the YSV-104, and get something that's actually designed for performance. Even the YEV-104 (which is actually less expensive) is a better instrument for live performance than the YSV-104.
@@akm5256 , at that price point I would recommend the Yamaha YEV violin: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/yamaha-yev.html. It's lightweight, comfortable to play, has a great amplified tone, and is also a really beautiful design. As with any Yamaha, note that the instrument does not include a bow or case, so choose a bow and case package (www.electricviolinshop.com/yamaha-yev-violin-bow-case-outfit.html) if you need those items, as well.
Sure. Yamaha's SV-200 is very similar in design but made with both headphone practice *and* amplified performance in mind: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/sv-200.html You may also be interested in the Bridge Aquila: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/bridge-electric-violins/bridge-aquila-4-string.html?product_list_order=price
The SV-150 was discontinued by Yamaha a few years back and replaced by the YSV104. They are very similar in principle. The YSV104 costs less than the SV-150 did in part because the control box, which was a big part of the cost of the SV-150, is stripped down a bit in terms of available practice functions. It's basically a headphone amp with reverb and an AUX IN, whereas the SV-150 control box had several more advanced functions. It's probable that Yamaha made a calculation that the few hundred dollar cost savings were more important to customers than the wider array of headphone practice functions.
I'm not intending to perform in any sort of serious manner, but would like to play the violin out at home every now and then. Could I just connect the headphone out to the aux in on my amplifier and be reasonably happy with the result? Any risk of damaging the amplifier?
It won't hurt anything. It's just not really ideal for the best possible sound quality. If I had one and wanted to hear it through a speaker, that's what I would do - run it into the Aux In.
what abt using another preamp instead of the "controlbox peamp" such as the fishman "platinum stage eq" or the schertler "stat pre" to improve the gain staging and to match the impedance ?? can this be effective for a live situation ??
@@ElectricViolinShop It is rather 0.5 second max, but the latest changes in the bluetooth standards according to some rumors speak of a reduction of the delay in the order of a factor 10. Nothing yet is released however. However I am not a bluetooth expert and if the update from A2DP ver.1.2 to ver. 1.3 delivers is yet unclear for me. Still, 50 ms delay lets you get out of sync with 1/16 notes at a metronom beat of 120 quite remarkably. I think I should experiment with it. Your remark is pointing to a very serious problem which I did not yet think through with the necessary care.
Please, PLEASE help me. I'm watching some videos, and I've seen people playing outside the ysv104 with an ampli connected, how is this possible then? Today I would've bought the ysv104 but I want it to play outside and to practise in home. Please help me because I need to know who to believe, and I don't want to make a mistake. If your answer is "no, you can't amplify it", then what violin of 770-950$ should I buy to practise all days at home, but also be able to make a concert sometimes? Thank you so much, this is so important to me now.
You technically CAN plug the headphone output of the YSV into an amplifier, but it's really not ideal. It's the wrong signal strength and the wrong impedance. It's not going to sound fantastic. Check out our review videos for instruments under $1000. Any of those can be connected to a headphone amp or a a performance amp. Many performance amps have headphone jacks.
I bought a ysv104 and pretty worried after this review as I want it for silent practice and gigs. It excels through the dedicated ysv104 control box into headphones - helped by the active pickup. While the YEV104 probably sounds better through an amp - it has a passive pickup (and no control box) so not so good through headphones. For gigs I play the ysv into a Roland street cube via a LR Baggs Venue Isolator/DI box and very happy with the sound for folk/rock style. WIthout the LR Baggs it sounds fairly ordinary.
Hi, of course I believe you there is not a reason of why not, but I have some1 wanting to sell me 1. I’m not buying thanks to this video. THANKS YOU BTW! But the owner keeps claiming it can by play also without the headphones. I then download its pdf where it sort of says that can be played by connecting the “headphone jack, or was another jack out? into the left channel or the source to where you will play the sound with. All it says it’s not to plugged into a line in or into a microphone for which I understand, according to what I read, that they claim can be connected into an instrument in like the input of say for instance a guitar amplifier... Any further answer from you I would really appreciated. Thanks very much whatever the case 😁
You CAN connect the headphone output to the input of a device, but that's not really ideal for a number of reasons. It's the wrong signal strength and it's the wrong impedance. Yamaha knows how to design instruments for live performance and this one was expressly NOT designed for that purpose.
@@ElectricViolinShop The question is at what level of professionalism the poorer sound quality becomes a factor you can't ignore. I use the YSV-104 for practice at home, but also with a battery driven guitar amp in violin class. My teacher has no problem to tune the violin based on the amp output and says it sounds quite pleasing and nice. So.... playing for the family on christmas, busking around a bit on the street, record some play alongs with audacity... will work just fine. As you said, nothing for stage performance but there is a middle ground somewhere for design afficienados of the SV series and a level between total beginner and stage performer who might like that cheaper SV200 option. I agree tho with your assessment here in the comments, but the video might be a liiiittle too restrictive :-)
Do you sell electric violas and if so, can you review three or four of them with comments about headphone jacks etc since not all of your violins have them.
We do sell electric violas. There are not as many models to choose from as with electric violins. You can shop our selection at www.electricviolinshop.com/violas.html. The only viola models that have an onboard headphone output are the Yamaha SVV-200 and the NS Design CR violas. That said, all others can be played "silently" through headphones by simply running them through a device with headphone output such as a headphone amp (we sell an Electro Harmonix one on our site as well as Yamaha's own SessionCake), any amp with headphone out, or any multi-FX pedal or preamp pedal with headphone out.
The SV-200 is *great* for both headphone practice AND performance. :) We have it in stock in 5 different colors here: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/sv-200.html
Isnt also useful for like album recording? i see allot of people doing covers with this violins as well as the chello with the same build structer i figured the created a audio overly on there videos becuase they sound studio quilty as apossed to live which i figured is easy to do with apples gradge studio or any other merchent professional recording software out there
It's may be possible to output from the YSV box to recording software, but not practical or very professional sounding. What you're probably seeing in videos are other of the similarly styled Yamaha models such as the (now discontinued) SV-130, of which thousands are out there in players' hands, or the SV-200 or SV-250/255. Likewise, the Yamaha SVC-series cellos are all built for both headphone and practice AND amplified performance, so they work well in recording settings, too.
Hello, thank’s for the help! Can you help me to discover this? It’s possible use a wireless system with the Yamaha sv250 without the direct box included? I saw that Lindsey Stirling uses a kind of "preamp" under the violin.
Lindsey's box came from the Yamaha custom shop. Unless you have access to one of those custom preamp boxes, you're going to have to use the control box.
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 The YSV requires the dedicated Yamaha control box (it powers the pickup and provides 2 reverb options) I recently bought one ex Yamaha Japan through a local Australian distributor for $A140. Very happy with the result and use through headphones or to an amp via LR Baggs Venue Isolator/EQ/DI box (cost $300 second hand).
It's not bad. It's just designed for a very specific thing. A hammer isn't bad - it's just designed for pounding nails. You shouldn't use it to try to turn a screw, though. It's not going to work very well.
There are plenty of folks who really want a practice-only instrument. Some are classical players who stay in apartments or hotels a lot and like the at-home feel of the YSV104 and the ability to play anytime night or day without disturbing others. Even some electric players like the YSV104 because it allows them to practice quietly without transporting and hooking up their entire rig just to shed a little. So, not useless, just very specifically useful. :)
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 that still makes no sense because if you by let's say the sv250 you can still do the exact same thing except then you have the option of also playing through an amp
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 you're absolutely right but that one has dual pickups and the wood quality is better. Even though it's a little heavier the sv-130 makes more sense then the ysv104
@@elr2141979The SV-130 is discontinued, so the two under-$1000 Yamaha options are YSV104 (headphones only) and YEV104/105 (no headphone functionality). The SV-200 and SV-250 combine both. YSV104 is meant to serve a very specific segment of the market--sounds like you're not in it! XD
Not that are really worth playing. We've found that there's a price floor at about $600 for electric instruments. Below that, you just aren't finding quality instruments.
My husband bought this electric violin for me as a gift and I panicked for a second after watching this video but Im able to use the Yamaha THR10II Desktop Amp , 10 with it and it working fine. I also bought a Female Stereo Audio Jack Adapter for Aux Cable, Guitar Amplifier, so that I can use the other controls on the amp and it sounds good! Just wanted to share in case it helps anyone.
I was about to buy it as well, and hopefully I've made a right choice. Thank you for your advise!
You are the only person who helps classicals to understand how things work in this ROCK world.
Best of luck and again BIG THANK YOU! You re the best!
Our pleasure! We definitely like this instrument as a practice violin, but not so much for performance. Do let us know if you need any help choosing a good performance instrument. We're available at info@electricviolinshop.com :)
Thank you which should i pick instead?
Thank you for the info, was very useful. I was thinking about buying one, and had no idea about it being only a practice instrument.
Thank you SOOOO much! I was thinking about saving up for this violin since you can plug it into headphones. I thought there were two plugs and didn't know about this! Thank you!
Wonderful advice, always wanted to pursue an instrument, piano, guitar, now violin. But practice is all I’m after, so this is great stuff 🤙🏽
What would you recommend for an electric Violin that's good to practice and perform on?
That's great advice. If only I had watched this video before buying mine. It took me a minute to find out that it wasn't suitable for amplifiers. I swapped it for a bridge Aquila. Happy days!
I’m curious but isn’t a 3.5 mm jack equivalent of a balanced TRS output. Wouldn’t the headphone Jack be enough as an output to an interface or mixer ?
Thank you!! Finally someone with an ounce of audio experience. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. I have seen literally dozens of videos of the Yamaha violins connected to all kinds of speakers. It's not just a practise violin. Nina Degregorio is a pro musician who uses the Yamaha 105 violins in her performances She says it is the best in terms of pro performance and price. That was huge for me. If it's good enough to be used in a pro setting, it's plenty good for me!
No it's not. But it can be made to work. 3,5mm jacks, especially headphone outputs (also on this violin) are stereo unbalanced. Which is something else than balanced mono TRS.
I bought a ysv104 and pretty worried after your review as I want it for silent practice and gigs. It excels through the dedicated ysv104 control box into headphones - helped by the active pickup. While the YEV104 probably sounds better through an amp - it has a passive pickup (and no control box) so not so good through headphones. For gigs I play the ysv into a Roland street cube via a LR Baggs Venue Isolator/DI box and very happy with the sound for folk/rock style. WIthout the LR Baggs it sounds fairly ordinary.
Hello , how did you connect this violin ?
Thanks, you just saved me some money, I was about to buy one 2nd hand and it didn't even occur to me that it wouldn't be a standard jack output.
The smaller jacks work fine
how did you connect the violin ? I bought this violin and have always problem with connection on the stage
I play on weddings. Recently ordered ysv104. Cancel the order ?
Amir, If you're buying the instrument to perform, then yes, I would cancel the order for the YSV-104, and get something that's actually designed for performance. Even the YEV-104 (which is actually less expensive) is a better instrument for live performance than the YSV-104.
thanks for the answer
If I cancel the order and then through you can I order another model's violin up to $ 1000. Waiting for an answer!
@@akm5256 , at that price point I would recommend the Yamaha YEV violin: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/yamaha-yev.html. It's lightweight, comfortable to play, has a great amplified tone, and is also a really beautiful design. As with any Yamaha, note that the instrument does not include a bow or case, so choose a bow and case package (www.electricviolinshop.com/yamaha-yev-violin-bow-case-outfit.html) if you need those items, as well.
to order a violin, for this what steps or action should we take and where else should we send dollars. Write about it in detail!
Hi Would this be perfect for practicing in a house share? wanting to get back into violin but disturb other house mates, many thanks
Yup
Can’t you simply use the headphone port for an aux cable to any speaker?
i know I am pretty randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to stream newly released movies online?
@Lucian Grayson lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
Yes, you can. I played in a metalcore band with this violin. For rehearsal we used the headphone port and it worked out.
thank you so much we were about to buy it for our brother you saved us
Was about to buy it. I play at weddings and dinner parties. Could you recommend me one? Thanks. I just liked the looks of that one better than the yev
Sure. Yamaha's SV-200 is very similar in design but made with both headphone practice *and* amplified performance in mind: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/sv-200.html
You may also be interested in the Bridge Aquila: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/bridge-electric-violins/bridge-aquila-4-string.html?product_list_order=price
Can you post a video with e violin showing how silent it is while connecting to headphones?
It's significantly quieter than casual conversation.
Well you have to plug it in, I suppose??
Thanks you for this video mate, it helped us in making the right decision.
Thanks for the info, very helpful!
The ysv 104 looks like sv 150... Is there any difference? If you could make a video about differences.. Thnks
The SV-150 was discontinued by Yamaha a few years back and replaced by the YSV104. They are very similar in principle. The YSV104 costs less than the SV-150 did in part because the control box, which was a big part of the cost of the SV-150, is stripped down a bit in terms of available practice functions. It's basically a headphone amp with reverb and an AUX IN, whereas the SV-150 control box had several more advanced functions. It's probable that Yamaha made a calculation that the few hundred dollar cost savings were more important to customers than the wider array of headphone practice functions.
I'm not intending to perform in any sort of serious manner, but would like to play the violin out at home every now and then. Could I just connect the headphone out to the aux in on my amplifier and be reasonably happy with the result? Any risk of damaging the amplifier?
It won't hurt anything. It's just not really ideal for the best possible sound quality. If I had one and wanted to hear it through a speaker, that's what I would do - run it into the Aux In.
@@ElectricViolinShop thank you very much for the quick reply!!
what abt using another preamp instead of the "controlbox peamp" such as the fishman "platinum stage eq" or the schertler "stat pre" to improve the gain staging and to match the impedance ?? can this be effective for a live situation ??
I make a mistake and I bought it
The control box also powers the violin. So no .
Are there no e-violins with bluetooth interface/output?
You wouldn't want bluetooth on a musical instrument. There's way too much latency (up to a second).
@@ElectricViolinShop It is rather 0.5 second max, but the latest changes in the bluetooth standards according to some rumors speak of a reduction of the delay in the order of a factor 10. Nothing yet is released however. However I am not a bluetooth expert and if the update from A2DP ver.1.2 to ver. 1.3 delivers is yet unclear for me.
Still, 50 ms delay lets you get out of sync with 1/16 notes at a metronom beat of 120 quite remarkably. I think I should experiment with it.
Your remark is pointing to a very serious problem which I did not yet think through with the necessary care.
Please, PLEASE help me. I'm watching some videos, and I've seen people playing outside the ysv104 with an ampli connected, how is this possible then? Today I would've bought the ysv104 but I want it to play outside and to practise in home. Please help me because I need to know who to believe, and I don't want to make a mistake. If your answer is "no, you can't amplify it", then what violin of 770-950$ should I buy to practise all days at home, but also be able to make a concert sometimes? Thank you so much, this is so important to me now.
You technically CAN plug the headphone output of the YSV into an amplifier, but it's really not ideal. It's the wrong signal strength and the wrong impedance. It's not going to sound fantastic.
Check out our review videos for instruments under $1000. Any of those can be connected to a headphone amp or a a performance amp. Many performance amps have headphone jacks.
I bought a ysv104 and pretty worried after this review as I want it for silent practice and gigs. It excels through the dedicated ysv104 control box into headphones - helped by the active pickup. While the YEV104 probably sounds better through an amp - it has a passive pickup (and no control box) so not so good through headphones. For gigs I play the ysv into a Roland street cube via a LR Baggs Venue Isolator/DI box and very happy with the sound for folk/rock style. WIthout the LR Baggs it sounds fairly ordinary.
there are headphone level to line level passive converter
The YSV104 is really an Updated version of the YSV150.
Yamaha sv 120 s $$$$$ ???
They're discontinued. We can't get them anymore.
Hi, of course I believe you there is not a reason of why not, but I have some1 wanting to sell me 1. I’m not buying thanks to this video. THANKS YOU BTW! But the owner keeps claiming it can by play also without the headphones. I then download its pdf where it sort of says that can be played by connecting the “headphone jack, or was another jack out? into the left channel or the source to where you will play the sound with. All it says it’s not to plugged into a line in or into a microphone for which I understand, according to what I read, that they claim can be connected into an instrument in like the input of say for instance a guitar amplifier...
Any further answer from you I would really appreciated. Thanks very much whatever the case 😁
You CAN connect the headphone output to the input of a device, but that's not really ideal for a number of reasons. It's the wrong signal strength and it's the wrong impedance. Yamaha knows how to design instruments for live performance and this one was expressly NOT designed for that purpose.
@@ElectricViolinShop The question is at what level of professionalism the poorer sound quality becomes a factor you can't ignore. I use the YSV-104 for practice at home, but also with a battery driven guitar amp in violin class. My teacher has no problem to tune the violin based on the amp output and says it sounds quite pleasing and nice.
So.... playing for the family on christmas, busking around a bit on the street, record some play alongs with audacity... will work just fine. As you said, nothing for stage performance but there is a middle ground somewhere for design afficienados of the SV series and a level between total beginner and stage performer who might like that cheaper SV200 option.
I agree tho with your assessment here in the comments, but the video might be a liiiittle too restrictive :-)
Do you sell electric violas and if so, can you review three or four of them with comments about headphone jacks etc since not all of your violins have them.
We do sell electric violas. There are not as many models to choose from as with electric violins. You can shop our selection at www.electricviolinshop.com/violas.html.
The only viola models that have an onboard headphone output are the Yamaha SVV-200 and the NS Design CR violas. That said, all others can be played "silently" through headphones by simply running them through a device with headphone output such as a headphone amp (we sell an Electro Harmonix one on our site as well as Yamaha's own SessionCake), any amp with headphone out, or any multi-FX pedal or preamp pedal with headphone out.
If I use this violin, will it bother my neighbors or it won't be noticeble at all in the appartment above me ?
Short answer: no.
Long answer: ruclips.net/video/K50aL9J0Xo4/видео.html
and yev 104? for practice only
No, YEV violins are great performance instruments and don't actually have a headphone amp, so they are meant to be plugged into an amplifier.
@@ElectricViolinShop Thanks!!
What about a SV 200 silent violin
The SV-200 is *great* for both headphone practice AND performance. :)
We have it in stock in 5 different colors here: www.electricviolinshop.com/violins/violins-by-brand/yamaha-sv-silent-violins/sv-200.html
Very expensive unfortunately 😢i wish i could by it
Thanks
Thank I i wanna proctice
Isnt also useful for like album recording? i see allot of people doing covers with this violins as well as the chello with the same build structer i figured the created a audio overly on there videos becuase they sound studio quilty as apossed to live which i figured is easy to do with apples gradge studio or any other merchent professional recording software out there
It's may be possible to output from the YSV box to recording software, but not practical or very professional sounding. What you're probably seeing in videos are other of the similarly styled Yamaha models such as the (now discontinued) SV-130, of which thousands are out there in players' hands, or the SV-200 or SV-250/255. Likewise, the Yamaha SVC-series cellos are all built for both headphone and practice AND amplified performance, so they work well in recording settings, too.
When HD quality looks like 320p)
You just saved me $800 😂
Hello, thank’s for the help!
Can you help me to discover this? It’s possible use a wireless system with the Yamaha sv250 without the direct box included? I saw that Lindsey Stirling uses a kind of "preamp" under the violin.
Lindsey's box came from the Yamaha custom shop. Unless you have access to one of those custom preamp boxes, you're going to have to use the control box.
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 The YSV requires the dedicated Yamaha control box (it powers the pickup and provides 2 reverb options) I recently bought one ex Yamaha Japan through a local Australian distributor for $A140. Very happy with the result and use through headphones or to an amp via LR Baggs Venue Isolator/EQ/DI box (cost $300 second hand).
Muchas graciasssssssss
If the violin is so bad.Why is so big price for her?
It's not bad. It's just designed for a very specific thing. A hammer isn't bad - it's just designed for pounding nails. You shouldn't use it to try to turn a screw, though. It's not going to work very well.
Which makes this instrument almost virtually useless
There are plenty of folks who really want a practice-only instrument. Some are classical players who stay in apartments or hotels a lot and like the at-home feel of the YSV104 and the ability to play anytime night or day without disturbing others. Even some electric players like the YSV104 because it allows them to practice quietly without transporting and hooking up their entire rig just to shed a little. So, not useless, just very specifically useful. :)
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 that still makes no sense because if you by let's say the sv250 you can still do the exact same thing except then you have the option of also playing through an amp
@@elr2141979 This one's almost $1000 cheaper
@@electricviolinshopaccount2045 you're absolutely right but that one has dual pickups and the wood quality is better.
Even though it's a little heavier the sv-130 makes more sense then the ysv104
@@elr2141979The SV-130 is discontinued, so the two under-$1000 Yamaha options are YSV104 (headphones only) and YEV104/105 (no headphone functionality). The SV-200 and SV-250 combine both. YSV104 is meant to serve a very specific segment of the market--sounds like you're not in it! XD
Are there any cheaper alternatives?
Not that are really worth playing. We've found that there's a price floor at about $600 for electric instruments. Below that, you just aren't finding quality instruments.