I used to work for "Master Flame", a maker of fireplace burners and logs. I ran the welding department. We were a small operation, so I often helped making the logs too. We were using a ceramic refractory (said to be the same stuff the launchpad for the space shuttle is made out of). I bet one could buy a few 50 pound bags of that, and make this even more cost effective.
Cool idea and cudos for coming up with something like this but as stated by others fire brick is designed to be a poor heat conductor making most of the energy go up the flue, if however the side and top bricks were replaced with soapstone you would have one helluva great stove. The soapstone absorbs the heat and then radiates it out long after the wood is gone hence the reason it is the preferred choice for masonary heaters. With those you can burn soft woods very hot reducing the creasote problem and they then give off a long lasting gentle heat. If made from soapstone bricks cut the same dimensions as your firebricks you would have a decent heater. I know because I modified a Kodiak stove with sopastone and heat my house with it. You can usually locate soapstone in rough form at countertop manufacturers, at least I did.
Great idea southron jr, I didn't know that soapstone would take the heat without cracking but I guess you say it's okay to use the soapstone in place of the firebrick? Just making sure. Write me back if you get a chance.
how about using bricks from old electric storage heaters, I am no expert, just an idea., and getting the air for combustion from an independent external source, to save having the room heat taken up the chimney, or it's like having a hole in the bucket.
@@chuckcunningham9653 some reason your post just came to my attention. In my stove I kept the fire brick on the bottom and 1 brick high in the fire box. I left the steel firebox in place and simply placed the soapstone on the top, sides and rear of my stove to absorb the heat from the steel and then radiate it out over time. I still have to make sure my stove isn't over fired causing popped welds but it has worked well for me as our primary heat source in my house.
@@daibhiseaghdha153 using extrior air is preferred but be careful, critters and rodents like to come in that way. Most modern stoves are designed to use an external air supply. My house it wouldn't work well because my house was built in the 1830's and has PLENTY of airflow coming from outside. The air going up the flue actually draws more air into my house wich with my sized stove, is more than acceptable. My stove regularly has us cracking windows even on some of the coldest of nights but where I live, we might see single digits 2 nights a year. As for the bricks, not entirely familiar with the type you are refering to. If they are insulation bricks, then they would keep the heat inside the firebox and going up the flue. Worst case, I placed regular solid masonry bricks along and on top of my stove for many years before swapping to soapstone and they will absorb and radiate heat like sopastone, just not as much.
Going to be tough on the stove if you use cord wood, that stuff gets pretty tender after its gets hot, needs a steel firebox to make it practical for long term use, hell of a nifty idea though. (maybe some plates that bolt together on the inside?)
I'm just wondering why he didn't use a running bond for the walls. The stacked bond makes sense for the floor, but the walls have no structural stability.
you do understand that the way fire stoves work is through radiant heat and fire brick is insulated thus the vast majority of the heat will be blocked and go up the chimney.
Mr Energy, you are getting all those negative response is due to you didn't demonstrated till the end, I mean the exact purpose why people should buy this or make this...
I think its only for fun,if you are at the backyard and wants to cook something,you dont need to go inside your house,if you have some dry woods,wow! It will be an experience. when after you cook,you can build a charcoal,that' s great for bbque,an organic charcoal.
If you want an easy very efficient wood burner find a 55 gallon barrel buy the kit for it and let me tell you the thinner the stove the more the heat will be available to the area you are trying to heat this fire brick and be use for the bottom of the barrel and this brick will not let the heat through to the room like thin metal will.
That will leak smoke. if you roughly load it, it can potentially start a fire cause those fire bricks crack and erode too..... best cover that with metal. Novel design, just not safe in the long run.
Well when you build one and test it yourself then you will KNOW. This works very well! I use this stove to heat my shop... It is the same as a welded steel stove with fire brick on the inside.
I've been a bricklayer all my life, this is so wrong! There is no structural bond at the corners or in the walls! I have built a few domed ovens in my time,
Just a LOW budget prototype and it actually preformed better than some low cost Wood Burning Stoves. Thanks for the comment and Thanks for a life time of hard work!
a very interesting concept.. putting wood in there is going to erode the brick. If you could use this concept to make a rocket stove with a down draft chimney that could be great. How long will the frame last.
This is neatly made, but otherwise a HIGHLY inefficient stove. The burn is only a single stage, though well insulated, so will convert somewhat inefficiently, producing not very high temperatures, and then most of the heat produced is lost up the chimney anyway.
maybe you could leave an airgap and build another stove around this one using more fire brick! That way it is completely insulated and ALL the heat goes out the chimney. Right now only like 95% of the heat is being lost. Lets use our heads and get to 100%!
I was thinking more along the lines he could just lay all the bricks flat on the floor and just set the fire On top of it to stop scorching the ground below. I guess his reason for using bricks is he not very good at metal work and to be honest his first attempt was trying to use lego bricks, it didn't end well.
It looks nice and good. One question: the iron and brick has different heat expansion. I can't see any space between iron construction and brics. I am afraid the heated iron can destroy this construction. Thanks for answer in advance.
Same type of fire brick I buy at the local masonry supply store. I use it to line the inside of my woodstove, very common. Lifespan depends on amount of wood I burn. They are called fire brick, but they do crack, become brittle, and ultimately fall apart due to intense heat. Then they need to be replaced. Get the danger ? Outdoors next to your fire pit, sure. But indoors ? Never ever, no way, Charlie Brown. A drunken home inspector would never approve of this for indoor use.
Another problem: The metal parts will expand and shrink as they heat up and cool down where the bricks do not have that flexibility. Not a stable design.
Just wondering how the test went? I tried checking the comments to see if you say but just the typical circus monkeys nonsense. My old Lennox co2000ht was disassembled for shipping many years ago. just popped the crate and looks like all insulation needs replaced. Was thinking of building something like this. Would like to buy that frame and door if possible or maybe a print. Hope all is well. It looked like a great idea.
I'm worried this doesn't look structurally sound, especially under heat and load? The design relies upon the adhesive strength of fire-stop caulking which may not have the ability to maintain its "glue" like bond when at operating temperatures... sorry to be a downer but this may be fine outdoors but I wouldn't trust it inside.
Hi, thanks for the upload of this well or apparently well designed stove. I thought we were going to FF to a test but guess that will have to wait. The good and easy thing about a scratch build is everything can be made to fit from already standard and available bricks. I am no expert but do you think the base would have been better to have either a whole sheet as the ash/grate? Take care, have subbed.
I have no idea why you think this is a good idea...you have built a semi efficent forge, not a wood stove. I applaud your efforts but this is a complete fail. Sorry!
This is very amussing. I certainly know there are stupid people in this world I just didn't know is was possible for the human body to substain life when down to it's final two brain cells. As much as I would like to continue this very intelectually stimulating dialogue I really must tend more pressing concerns. Please continue building your forge...I am sure it will be a smashing success.
I'd like to add to my previous statement in regards to no cooking space. Yes, there is a space in front but using fire brick instead of metal is a waste of energy. That is all.
+mrEnergy511 thanks for sharing your build. Since it's insulated by the brick walls, is it designed to be run outdoors for hydronic or air duct heat exchanger heat extraction? I'm trying to understand the use of brick walls AND stove top.
Where did you buy the fire brick? No hardware store I go to offers fire brick. When you ask hardware store employees about where their fire brick is located they look at you like your nuts.
i bought fire brick at ace hardware and have bought it at home depot. ive seen it at walmart and they sell it at sam's club. do you not live in a country with ANY o those?
I would place some square steel tubing from back to front and use that as a heat exchanger with a blower. If you don't build crazy fires it will last a long time and you can get some usable heat out of it !!. Of course there are a lot of pros making comments on here, doing nothing but running their mouths as usual, but not being very productive!!!!!
little wheels will get stuck in little cracks on the floor while pushing 500lbs of stacked bricks with little mortar... a recipe for failure is high, just by looking at it ...at least make a one piece outside all around skeleton frame for that house of cards...the only heat will come from front door plate and lots of wasted energy absorbed by firebrick enclosure, firebrick are insulators not use for heating, it actually stops heat!...just a firebrick box.
Okay , I thought the environment authorities were requesting an air blower to force air flow from the bottom of stove floors to greatly reduce pollutants into the atmosphere ?
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I used to work for "Master Flame", a maker of fireplace burners and logs. I ran the welding department. We were a small operation, so I often helped making the logs too. We were using a ceramic refractory (said to be the same stuff the launchpad for the space shuttle is made out of). I bet one could buy a few 50 pound bags of that, and make this even more cost effective.
Wonderful job. Congratulations from Spain.
This is the best looking handmake wood burner
Awesome I love how it looks. More so on how it's not just a big metal box. I would get one.
I have built many stoves my channel proves it. To me this has some great ideas, concepts and applications. Thanks guys I had an ahh haah moment!
Cool idea and cudos for coming up with something like this but as stated by others fire brick is designed to be a poor heat conductor making most of the energy go up the flue, if however the side and top bricks were replaced with soapstone you would have one helluva great stove. The soapstone absorbs the heat and then radiates it out long after the wood is gone hence the reason it is the preferred choice for masonary heaters. With those you can burn soft woods very hot reducing the creasote problem and they then give off a long lasting gentle heat. If made from soapstone bricks cut the same dimensions as your firebricks you would have a decent heater. I know because I modified a Kodiak stove with sopastone and heat my house with it. You can usually locate soapstone in rough form at countertop manufacturers, at least I did.
Great idea southron jr, I didn't know that soapstone would take the heat without cracking but I guess you say it's okay to use the soapstone in place of the firebrick? Just making sure. Write me back if you get a chance.
how about using bricks from old electric storage heaters, I am no expert, just an idea., and getting the air for combustion from an independent external source, to save having the room heat taken up the chimney, or it's like having a hole in the bucket.
@@chuckcunningham9653 some reason your post just came to my attention. In my stove I kept the fire brick on the bottom and 1 brick high in the fire box. I left the steel firebox in place and simply placed the soapstone on the top, sides and rear of my stove to absorb the heat from the steel and then radiate it out over time. I still have to make sure my stove isn't over fired causing popped welds but it has worked well for me as our primary heat source in my house.
@@daibhiseaghdha153 using extrior air is preferred but be careful, critters and rodents like to come in that way. Most modern stoves are designed to use an external air supply. My house it wouldn't work well because my house was built in the 1830's and has PLENTY of airflow coming from outside. The air going up the flue actually draws more air into my house wich with my sized stove, is more than acceptable. My stove regularly has us cracking windows even on some of the coldest of nights but where I live, we might see single digits 2 nights a year. As for the bricks, not entirely familiar with the type you are refering to. If they are insulation bricks, then they would keep the heat inside the firebox and going up the flue. Worst case, I placed regular solid masonry bricks along and on top of my stove for many years before swapping to soapstone and they will absorb and radiate heat like sopastone, just not as much.
It’s amazing. Bravo
go back to drawing board
I like a stove with area to cook, for late nights at the shop Also seems 80% of heat will go straight up the flue
Going to be tough on the stove if you use cord wood, that stuff gets pretty tender after its gets hot, needs a steel firebox to make it practical for long term use, hell of a nifty idea though. (maybe some plates that bolt together on the inside?)
Very good explanation. Thank you for your time.
I'm just wondering why he didn't use a running bond for the walls. The stacked bond makes sense for the floor, but the walls have no structural stability.
you do understand that the way fire stoves work is through radiant heat and fire brick is insulated thus the vast majority of the heat will be blocked and go up the chimney.
Mr Energy, you are getting all those negative response is due to you didn't demonstrated till the end, I mean the exact purpose why people should buy this or make this...
I would like to see a Rocket Mass Heater set-up
I think its only for fun,if you are at the backyard and wants to cook something,you dont need to go inside your house,if you have some dry woods,wow! It will be an experience. when after you cook,you can build a charcoal,that' s great for bbque,an organic charcoal.
A test of it ramping up to temp and running efficiently was necessary imo.
Great point!
Why not lay the bricks flat and stagger them, it would strengthen entire structure considerably. Cost would be more but worth it.
If you want an easy very efficient wood burner find a 55 gallon barrel buy the kit for it and let me tell you the thinner the stove the more the heat will be available to the area you are trying to heat this fire brick and be use for the bottom of the barrel and this brick will not let the heat through to the room like thin metal will.
Looks good, but you must fix the Bricks with steel bands or clips. Steel and stone have different extens.
That's awesome😃💚🔥
That will leak smoke. if you roughly load it, it can potentially start a fire cause those fire bricks crack and erode too..... best cover that with metal. Novel design, just not safe in the long run.
Well when you build one and test it yourself then you will KNOW. This works very well! I use this stove to heat my shop... It is the same as a welded steel stove with fire brick on the inside.
please redo the video cause the stove looks cool!
I've been a bricklayer all my life, this is so wrong! There is no structural bond at the corners or in the walls! I have built a few domed ovens in my time,
Just a LOW budget prototype and it actually preformed better than some low cost Wood Burning Stoves. Thanks for the comment and Thanks for a life time of hard work!
Where's the fire it up video?
because this is crap. Too embarrassed to put it up since it didn't work
where is the cooking surface? You need to show us the finished product. It's like I just got blue balled...
What he said, why make a big deal of putting it on wheels to put it outside and fire it up then show us neither :(
I refuse to believe a professional would use caulking tube refractory mortar and not properly fill in all jointery...
They don't.
Or a level
Looks like Ricky Bobby's best friend has a new job
a very interesting concept.. putting wood in there is going to erode the brick. If you could use this concept to make a rocket stove with a down draft chimney that could be great. How long will the frame last.
Instead of filling the floor gap with mortar, use some glass cloth roving/gasket material to mostly fill and only use a 1/4 in. of mortar to finish.
Very nice design, easy to built.
Very nice!!!! I am from Ecuador!!! nice job!!! little expensive but nice!!
Thank you,hope to order a frame soon,Mason workers rejoice,a iron worker to help build frames
If your selling I'd like to buy one of the kit just to try it in a workshop.
how much for the frame?? luv2hav seen a pie in there, how hot duz it gets?
great idea but you need to overlap those bricks to form a strong wall.
This is neatly made, but otherwise a HIGHLY inefficient stove. The burn is only a single stage, though well insulated, so will convert somewhat inefficiently, producing not very high temperatures, and then most of the heat produced is lost up the chimney anyway.
maybe you could leave an airgap and build another stove around this one using more fire brick! That way it is completely insulated and ALL the heat goes out the chimney. Right now only like 95% of the heat is being lost. Lets use our heads and get to 100%!
I was thinking more along the lines he could just lay all the bricks flat on the floor and just set the fire On top of it to stop scorching the ground below. I guess his reason for using bricks is he not very good at metal work and to be honest his first attempt was trying to use lego bricks, it didn't end well.
Dual Sport Numbskullz
The Amish perfected the wood stove years ago It is rare to hear of house fires from them can’t reinvent it
Where is the video showing the demonstration of you burning wood?
its's an enormus burning chamber. It will eat wood like a crazy dog. Look in to the mass ovens and rocket stoves in stead
good call this design will heat the outside really good insulating the heat and shooting it straight up the chimney
if he uses a thick iron chimney he might use that to heat up the chamber
It is a myth that a rocket stove can heat your whole house from just burning sticks in the yard. I can prove it by Math.
Thanks. Was curious where to start.
I thought you were going to take it outside and let us see how the test run is
The one thing I would like is to have angle iron in the middle to be able to put racks in there to cook with
Very nice. Thank you for the video.
Where can I get that fire brick mortar from? Could you please send me description. Thank you
Interesting project. Why would you put a screw latch on the door?
Great prototype !!
It looks nice and good. One question: the iron and brick has different heat expansion. I can't see any space between iron construction and brics. I am afraid the heated iron can destroy this construction. Thanks for answer in advance.
Same type of fire brick I buy at the local masonry supply store. I use it to line the inside of my woodstove, very common. Lifespan depends on amount of wood I burn. They are called fire brick, but they do crack, become brittle, and ultimately fall apart due to intense heat. Then they need to be replaced. Get the danger ? Outdoors next to your fire pit, sure. But indoors ? Never ever, no way, Charlie Brown. A drunken home inspector would never approve of this for indoor use.
I would think the mortar would expand, contract and eventually cause smoke leaks?
oh the video quality its amazing :P
I am thinking this would make good pizza!!
very poor and unstable stacking i dont care what mortor u use.
Mark Chance might be bionic mister
He's not a Brickie, that's for sure. Maybe he's just selling the metal base.
I don't like all the gaps. Esp the big one in the middle of the floor.
Another problem: The metal parts will expand and shrink as they heat up and cool down where the bricks do not have that flexibility. Not a stable design.
Did you have any smoke leak problems when using that little fire mortar?
wow a fire place on wheels
That many Bricks must have cost a fortune. Where did you buy your Bricks? Thanks
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why didn't you put sealer on all the cracks?
Fire brick is hella expensive. How much does this thing cost?
I searched eBay for your system but did not find it. Is it still available? Please send me details.thanks
How many fire bricks were used? What was the cost for the bricks? Thanks
Just wondering how the test went? I tried checking the comments to see if you say but just the typical circus monkeys nonsense. My old Lennox co2000ht was disassembled for shipping many years ago. just popped the crate and looks like all insulation needs replaced. Was thinking of building something like this. Would like to buy that frame and door if possible or maybe a print. Hope all is well. It looked like a great idea.
I looked for this on ebay and couldn't find it
Ok for something temporary. Never a permanent fixture. Good for a weekend, then tear it down and take away.
You are throwing the heat to the air through the chimney... instead of letting the heat stays on the room... firebricks are insulated bricks
I was looking for this on eBay and could not find it. Please post info for purchase if still available.
I'm worried this doesn't look structurally sound, especially under heat and load? The design relies upon the adhesive strength of fire-stop caulking which may not have the ability to maintain its "glue" like bond when at operating temperatures... sorry to be a downer but this may be fine outdoors but I wouldn't trust it inside.
you are missing the air inlet and grid ?
Hello. Beautiful work. How much do you use brick? Many thank
I hope you read all of your comments. This will not work.
I searched on ebay to purchase this wood burning stove, and can not find the sale listing. is it still available? what is the direct link?
Looks like the metal framework is very weak
I can't see the video, its completely blurred. Is this happening with other UK residents?
are you sure that the welded metal pieces will resist the stove temp???
Hi, thanks for the upload of this well or apparently well designed stove. I thought we were going to FF to a test but guess that will have to wait.
The good and easy thing about a scratch build is everything can be made to fit from already standard and available bricks. I am no expert but do you think the base would have been better to have either a whole sheet as the ash/grate?
Take care,
have subbed.
I have no idea why you think this is a good idea...you have built a semi efficent forge, not a wood stove. I applaud your efforts but this is a complete fail. Sorry!
i agree 1000%
Obviously, you fail all your physics classes not to mention grammer.
Wow, You are so incredibly articulate...a product of the public school system I'm guessing.
This is very amussing. I certainly know there are stupid people in this world I just didn't know is was possible for the human body to substain life when down to it's final two brain cells. As much as I would like to continue this very intelectually stimulating dialogue I really must tend more pressing concerns. Please continue building your forge...I am sure it will be a smashing success.
Great response, dihskursiv. If you don't mind, I'm going to steal it for my archive of insults.
I'd like to add to my previous statement in regards to no cooking space. Yes, there is a space in front but using fire brick instead of metal is a waste of energy. That is all.
What if you used refractory brick instead of fire brick and refractory cement instead of the cement/calk ?
Inner Compass that’s a great idea 💡 I actually did this for my Wood Fired Oven. Thanks for the comment
Do you Sell Just the plans ???
+mrEnergy511 thanks for sharing your build. Since it's insulated by the brick walls, is it designed to be run outdoors for hydronic or air duct heat exchanger heat extraction? I'm trying to understand the use of brick walls AND stove top.
please could you tell me what are the ingredients of the mortar?
That nice how much money is for some bricks
Where did you buy the fire brick? No hardware store I go to offers fire brick. When you ask hardware store employees about where their fire brick is located they look at you like your nuts.
moofushu You need to go to a Wholesale Brick Yard
+mrEnergy511 that would make a nice rocketstove build
i bought fire brick at ace hardware and have bought it at home depot. ive seen it at walmart and they sell it at sam's club. do you not live in a country with ANY o those?
Go to a brick yard
moofushu you can get fire brick at any tractor supply or farming stores
how did it work and did any and was it air tight?
its a stove right?....where do I cook the tortilla's?????
What kind of brick are you using?
It is better if there was a display a use of it!
Can you use clay bricks so that you can cook on it (Pizza oven). Clay seems to hold the heat better.
I would place some square steel tubing from back to front and use that as a heat exchanger with a blower. If you don't build crazy fires it will last a long time and you can get some usable heat out of it !!. Of course there are a lot of pros making comments on here, doing nothing but running their mouths as usual, but not being very productive!!!!!
+TheDave570 Lowes and Home Depot sells it !!
What came off this?
Show me how to build clay and brick oven in your style?
If you watch this video at 1.5x's speed, the video flows more naturally, and is more enjoyable. You're Welcome.
Looked for it and can't find it on eBay
little wheels will get stuck in little cracks on the floor while pushing 500lbs of stacked bricks with little mortar... a recipe for failure is high, just by looking at it ...at least make a one piece outside all around skeleton frame for that house of cards...the only heat will come from front door plate and lots of wasted energy absorbed by firebrick enclosure, firebrick are insulators not use for heating, it actually stops heat!...just a firebrick box.
Cool man! Thanks for your comment!!!
Is this still available because i want to make a mass rocket heater for my cabin.
When you push it outside make a chuff chuff noise casey Jones
What did you pay for all that fire brick?
Okay , I thought the environment authorities were requesting an air blower to force air flow from the bottom of stove floors to greatly reduce pollutants into the atmosphere ?