@@OceanusYT turps wasn't the first to be called out. As per his statement today, Lewis admitted failings in the historic cases of Sjin's inappropriate behaviour which he defended and dismissed as flirting back in 2016.
I have so much respect for Lewis. He went from a kid playing WoW and Minecraft to running a relatively large and prosperous corporation. He's even been forced to step in as CEO with all of this. I know that he feels somewhat trapped because so many of his good friends literally depend on him for their careers. I can't imagine how difficult that must be and I think he's doing a great job.
@@AdrianLassie Most people: people shouldn't harm others, especially if it has lifelong implications. This guy: BUT THINK OF THE CONTENT. THEY SAID NOTHING WRONG. *writes angry comment*
@@iantojones8309 They joined the yogscast, not the other way round, if they found it 'harmful' as you put it - they can always leave, and be in the same line of 'work' why are they there in the first place? You act as if you know exactly what Sjin did, and in the case of thatmadcat I find his comments cringe as fuck, but actually feeling threatened by them? Laughable, you do know these snowflakes entered HIS discord, and could also LEAVE his discord. So what's wrong? Are they so emotionally inept that you feel an emotional, digital chain holding you there? Come to think of it, I see that the only reason of how these idiots get themselves into situations where they experience this 'trauma' of 'sexual abuse'. On the FUCKING INTERNET where there is physically NOTHING stopping them from leaving and or pressing BLOCK. Let's create a hypothetical online 'sexual abuse' story that had femoids and soyboys triggered on reddit: The girl recites traumatic experiences the man 'forced' on her during discord message exchanges. The man as a result is displayed, seen as and in turn feels as a complete shitbag, fooling even himself of what really happened. Because what really happened was the entire fucking time he thought his flirting was fine because A- the girl responded, and escalted conversation with him B- showed no dissaproval of his flirting/advances C- As this is an online conversation he assumes that she always has the option to and will leave, if what later became her 'sexual abuse' story is happening at the time.
@@AdrianLassie"Heh the CRAZY SJWS RUINED THE YOGSCAST", Get a fucking life you neckbeard, take a step outside and realize that your hate and bigotry is a minority in this world, and the world rejects you for your horrid attitude. You are so fucking ignorant its funny, "On the FUCKING INTERNET where there is physically NOTHING stopping them from leaving and or pressing BLOCK." its from their coworker you dumb-ass. You don't understand at all how relationships work at all.
@@meowserer1362 @Meowser lmao unfortunately my original reply was removed. probably triggered the AI, not bothered to write again but something I find hilarious - You call me a neckbeard, yet in the video above (who obviously is a saint by all standards for standing up against MUH SEXISM) literally has a neckbeard. Also, I don't know dude being incensitive against neckbeard soyboys is pretty intolerant, I think you should apologise to them, also I'm pretty sure that Simon guy has a pretty 'prominent' neckbeard, fucking kek.
@@AdrianLassie I am intolerant towards reactionary losers, ya got me. and the neckbeard I'm referring to is not a physical trait but a state of mind, reactionary losers like you who blames sexual harassment and assault on the victims instead of the perpetrator because it helps your fragile ego.
Lewis seems to have a very nice outlook on life. It's the kind of outlook that comes from years of seeing shitty things happen to EVERYONE and he wants to try his best for his friends and gets pulled in like 4 different directions yet he always has a fucking smile. The man is a trooper.
Agreed. Lewis could probably leave/sell the yogscast. But instead he keeps trying his best even in the darker times of the brand. So I doubt he does it for the money.
When Simon stepped down a fair bit, he stepped up, and by god he's done such a good job at it despite everything, you can only feel for the guy really.
People mistake Lewis for an enabler, he isn't an enabler, he was just wrong with his knowledge. That is completely different. And until people can learn to identify growth over difference of opinion. We will constantly be losing good people (the Jenna Marbles stuff) to fear of being targeted and brutalised over the wrong information.
@Shreyas Misra You realise turps was married and was messaging minors right? Also sjin was sexually harassing fans as well as his co workers, if no one else does that shit they aren't gonna get let go.
It annoys me when I see people hating on Lewis for deffending Sjin for so long at first, he was just really close freinds with him and didn't belive the allegations or want to belive them and probably just assumed that it was people just having ago at a famous person for attention so he lost his temper with the victims and accusers cause he probably just saw it as them were lying and bullying him. But obviously when he saw it so undeniably clearly with Caff he instantly asked fans to come forward about more yogs and when they called out his close friends Turps and Sjin he got an investagor and a HR person in and fired them when the allegations turned out to be true despite how close he was with them
Multiple pre teens sent them proof for years, and he drunkenly yelled on a stream that sjin can flirt with whoever he wants and then he went crying on reddit about how they ruined sjins reputation and if it was real why didn't they go to the cops. Lewis knew shit and is only playing nice now because multiple members have stepped forward
@@krablord Honestly that's the first I've heard of that. Not defending Lewis or attacking you, generally curious. Do you have any proof or a link I could follow?
@@jerg1917 I'm trying to look for the links but I'm not sure if the clip exists anymore. I was around during the time tho and Lewis was genuinely personally very upset about the whole fiasco because to him there were a lot of people going out of their way to slander his friend. He did have an angry rant on stream, though I do not remember the contents exactly. I will say that, not to defend Lewis, but the evidence was dubious and the main account came from sjin's ex girlfriend who was let go from the yogs, and could have been seen as a biased account. A lot of the information and people who came together to confront the yogscast about sjin were also on tumblr, which was known for being kinda wierd and not very reliable in terms of information cos the yogs seemed to have a very bad impression of tumblr at the time at least. So Lewis had assumed all evidence presented was false. I will say that he should have known better and this investigation should have happened years ago. Lewis is definitely at fault but you can also see why it happened the way it did. Either way I'm glad it's finally been resolved and he's learnt to handle all this as well as he has now
It’s a damn shame to see this dark era consuming the Yogscast. I’ve been a Yognaught for over 10 years now and to see such humble beginnings grow into something grand and beautiful, then be stricken with a plague such as this is heartbreaking. I hope the victims of this behaviour get the support they need, they deserve better.
@@vetofallen6227 the problem with the skin situation is that it was kind of just swept under the carpet when it first came out, I remember minty making these allegations years earlier
The people who hate on Lewis are such hypocrites, I'd love for them to honestly sit and think about how they would feel if a very close friend of their's was accused of something like Sjin was. I'd wager heavily they would immediately deny it and protect their friend, yet they slam Lewis for apparently 'ignoring' claims. Of course you're gonna trust your close friend over some random person on the internet making claims. He took the logical approach and waited for some concisive evidence to come out and then took action.
Not a random person on the internet. It was Sjin's ex-girlfriend who had been fired from the Yogscast a year earlier. I doubt anyone would've believed it.
My thing with the whole original Sjin situation was that Lewis (and co) handled it badly and we can't just excuse that by saying 'well it was his friend', because at the end of the day people were getting hurt. The situation should have been taken more seriously and the fact is it just wasn't. That being said, what he HAS shown over the past couple of years with all of this shit is that he has grown up and, crucially, has stepped up to the plate to try to fix it and protect people. A lot of people/companies would continue to deny or downplay, but I really respect the way he and the rest of the Yogscast have handled everything. They could have very easily said that Sjin had already been investigated for past allegations (which they did internally at the time), but instead they went back with an external investigation and removed a huge player from their team who some fans STILL make excuses for and want back in. They did the right thing, not the easiest thing.
Lewis, is a blessing for us all. From the awkwardness and the funny all the way to the strait up just a good personness. I want to be like him when Im older. Not because of any of that I just want some Yogsquest money.
Thanks for this Xen, I subbed for the stream edits but uploading content like this really impacts the community in a beneficial way. I'm proud of daltos for his words and you for allowing me to hear them. Thank you
@@EETDUK his editing job is this. Making comps for yogscast. There may be other work in Xeno's life, but this is now official, so I think that's what they mean
With members leaving the yogscast and a few of them blaming the toxicity of the fanbase I was expecting less support for the company as it is right now. But I am so overjoyed and relieved there are still so many yognaughts who love the Yogscast especially Lewis who is undoubtedly trying his best to make things work. I have been a fan since the Archer Hero adventure map so I might not be one of the original watchers from WoW but I still think myself of someone who watched them grow from unknown faces to cherished friends. I wish them all the best and can hopefully bounce back from the recent events.
Great, first I give Sijn the benefit of the doubt back when he got kicked out as hopes that they were just fake accusations of the worse stuff but believed in the dark humour jokes part only to have confirmed that the main accusations are legitimate with official sources.....I feel like an idiot now
I wouldnt feel like an idiot. If there is no evidence, you shouldnt blindly rally against someone. Now that there is evidence, you have a moral obligation to drop them, but not before.
@@hanmetalworks Id take sjin back as well. And I'm not sweeping his actions under the rug. I just understand that people do people stuff and everyone fucks up. Hes not some kind of Epstein super freak.
I loved Sjin as an entertainer and still do miss his content. But I acknowledge the fact that he isnt a good person and therefore should not have a platform to abuse.
if you're scared don't read it, just accept he fucked up and move on, it would ruin any good memory and moment he had with the boys, you don't have to subject yourself to this if you feel like you're not ready
@@hackedskull respectfully disagree. it's always better to suffer from the truth than to ignore it for your own comfort. it's important to confront these hard truths, learn from them, and know not to sweep shit like this under the rug, even if you're not ready. you'll never be fully ready for anything like this.
@@hanmetalworks respectfully agree. but not everyone is like you and have different threshold of "how much shit I should subject myself to" they can do it later when they're more ready to do it, but if they don't want to have ruined childhood, maybe they shouldn't....
Came on to see all the pessimistic comments. Don't worry too much. This hurts, but if anything this proves Yogscast to be the people needs to be preserved in the industry. This isn't the end of their career but quite the opposite.
A while back Sjin, Turps & Caff were kicked out the Yogs for pedophilia / sexual relations with fans / etc. Recently, Bouphe & Geestar came out saying they had inappropriate pictures/messages sent to them by Sjin and others. Then Xenohpyte joined the Yogs, and ThatMadCat was kicked out for inappropriate lines in his discord (asking everyone if they're girls, etc)
The Colorful Salesman ThatMadCat came across as weird to women in his discord, and apparently he’s a bit misogynistic in general? The situation is pretty weird. He’s leaving the yogscast.
It’s easy to feel like Lewis is a creep because of how many borderline creepy and sexist jokes he makes, but when it comes down to it, everything Lewis does it from a place of genuine caring. He doesn’t make those awkward jokes because he’s a creep, he does it because he’s genuinely just that awkward of a person.
I agree, I remember seeing a stream clip in some compilation where Lewis jokingly asks Leo (I think) if he's a creep, and you could see him die a little inside when she didn't really answer. If he was a creep and not just some awkward nerd I don't think he would have taken the hit in silence like he did
Hey Xeno just incase you see this. I want to say. You’re not a replacement for me. You’re someone completely new and I’m excited to see what you create. 💖
After watching the Yogs for 9 years, it's really heartbreaking to see all these bad things happening to Lewis. If you ask me he's doing a great job. I just hope everything turns out okay for the Yogs.
Hey, just wanted to contribute a comment saying how I've always loved your edits and videos, and I hope you keep going the way you want to go, don't get distracted by people who want you to be madcat! ❤️
Glad to see you stepping up and helping to inform everyone about this stuff. Trott and Daltos' words have certainly cleared up/put into perspective some of the stuff that's been going on. Hope to see more stuff from you, whether that is this sort of thing, or the great stream highlights from before.
A worrying thought is that this kinda stuff becomes significant enough to discourage the yogs to the point of collapse (even if only partial) of the Yogscast. I'd say it's very unlikely without a whole lot more of this kinda thing happening, but it's a possibility.
Well Xeno, you are the new madcat I suppose. This whole situation sucks man. I will miss all of the clips from madcat's channel, so I hope do you compilations of good moments because I thrived on that.
I'm so glad Lewis is such a good person and boss. He's been doing such a great job through all of this. Hope he gets a well earned and much deserved break from the stressful stuff soon. And meanwhile he can still make us all laugh and at moments cringe XD
There are few non-fictional people I respect as much as Lewis; politicians, business owners, most people in positions of authority: they’re all pretty shit, and then there’s that boy shining a ray of not complete assholery and I have at least a little faith left in humanity
Sup Schmuck It’s hard not to think about Sips in times like this. As he’s away from the office a lot of the time he’s just like us, suddenly learning that some of the people he was close to were involved in some shady business, even hurting other people he cared about. This entire situation sucks but it’s better that this has been brought to light, to prevent anyone else getting hurt.
Whelp.....I never thought I would unsubscribe from the Yogscast but since it became a "network" and not friends playing together and having fun its became a real shit show. Plus I personally still like Sjins and Tups' content and I am not sorry for that because for me the best content the Yogs made featured Sjin. I am in no way condoning what they may have did but I can separate the content creator from the private individual. Its been amazing these past 10 years but this Yognaught is leaving for good.
Honestly, if them addressing and putting a stop to people being sexual predators and making racist or misogynistic comments is what makes you stop following the channel, you really need to evaluate the headspace you're in. I loved Sjin and his content before all that disgusting stuff came to light. At that point, he needed to go. Same with Turps and Caff.
Sjin and Turps sexual harassment claims from a while back have been effectively confirmed by Gee and Bouphe as they experienced it themselves. TMC was killed by mob justice due to jokes he made on discord to the point keeping him would be a liability for the yogs.
@@TheMorbidHobo Even if that was true (which it isn't, especially in cases like this), there's a huge difference between not apologising and doubling down.
Lewis is a good person and people know that, the thing is people dont believe him bucause he shows no evidence, for example, when bouphe came out she sead that Turps and Sjin had texted her and shown her sexual pictures, now someone can find those text, and since theis people are long gone why not show the text, and trust me if Lewis shows us the text literally the CEO of the yogscast no one will think heas lyeing, if you do theres no hellping you
The situation happened as follows: Bouphe was defending her friend that was being accused of sexual harassment. Bouphe was called out for defending turps and sjin, that she also defends the accused. Bouphe retorted, saying she never defended sjin or turps, and wouldn't because she herself was harassed by turps and sjin. Gee came out saying she too was harassed by turps and sjin. Tom, Harry, and a few others came out saying they knew how sjin was, that they knew what he did, that he did it often, and refused to stop doing it after being told many times to stop, to the point that they had to stop hanging with him. That is 4+ people within the company that had experienced turps and sjin's behaviour first hand. I was one of the first people to originally just to the defence of these two, and I am still defending ThatMadCat, but at this point the writing is on the wall, even without physical evidence.
Do you remember how Sjin, Tups and Caff were kicked out for being sexual predators? Bouphe and Geestar recently came out as victims from atleast Sjin, not sure about the others. Also ThatMadCat was kicked out for being a misogynistic creep. EDIT: Turns out they came out about Sijn and Turps, not just Sjin
@@MrDavincikoden Thanks fam. I mean I never cared for turps but damn... Sjin really broke my heart. Its life I suppose, I wish the best for bouphe and gee.
@@captainmccuckin2698 women can be misogynists, but regardless, that's not the situation here. TheMadCat made jokes, a subsection of the community got offended and demanded an apology from her, to which she refused, saying they were just jokes. The subsection (reddit) got all up-in-arms and effectively called for her removal. Lewis obliged, trying to distance his company from controversy.
@@BnAnna That actually isn't a lie. Since he can't be proven either way except in a court of law. Sjin is a fucking douche and a creep, but Lewis' statement wasn't false.
Basically Sjin is much much worse than we all originally thought, even going so far as to sexually harass Bouphe and Geestar on multiple counts, I believe Turps was involved as well. Safe to say, they are scumfuck nobodies who deserve to be forgotten.
He is referencing Bouphe and Gee coming out about being sexualy harassed by Turps and Sjin. Also the whole thing with Caff being a POS and a creep. Apparently, That Mad Cat was also fired for continuing to make misogynistic jokes/comments after being reprimanded for it
"I feel bad for the guy, he's losing his hair over this shit." DAMN! LOL! No but really, I applaud the Yogscast and Lewis on how everything is being handled. Really good people.
Yogscast had a few members of their network accused of sexual misconduct a while back. One fled the country and his misconduct involved minors. The other two willingly left the yogscast to not tarnish it name. Those two had little to no evidence of wrong doing, but recently two other members of the network came out saying they experience the misconduct first-hand, and a few others came out confirming this behaviour was regular for thise two members and despite help, they would not change. As a separate incident, anouther more recent member was accused of misogyny, racism, etc. Based on comments he made on discord. These comments were obvious jokes, dark and/or ironic, but still very much jokes. Nevertheless, people stripped them of context and complained about them. When asked to apologise for the jokes he said no, that they were just jokes. He was also defending and featuring the previous two members that were commiting sexual misconduct, due to the lack of evidence against them. This stopped well before the statements made by other members. Regardless, because of the pressure put against the network by the community, the member was removed.
@@TheMorbidHobo I would say there there very much was against all three of them. Turps admitted to it, and doing a very small amount of searching confirms the hell out of thw accusations against Caff.
What was the substance of Gee & Bouphe allegations against Sjin? I’m uneasy with the idea that admittedly cringey flirtation with coworkers is being equated to sexual harassment. I do think if he repeatedly bothered them when they asked him to stop, that’s a problem. But I still wouldn’t call that sexual harassment. Certainly not fireable.
There's a freaking difference between being a bit rude and actually being a pedo. not even giving that mad cat a chance to apologize is despicable. I get that with sjin and others you cant just apologize for but we live in a God damn society for fucks sake and we can talk through things without shoving the door in someones face, and if somebody doesn't want to be seen in one of his videos then he can just take it down and edit it. Or if the problem is just that it's on TMC channel then TMC can give the let's say rythian the video so if he wants to he can upload it on his channel. This is a perfect example of the left going to far and immediately ostracizing people who even have a slightly different opinion. Sry about this rant, I'm just pissed because my favorite youtuber was that MadCat and now I'm honestly not sure if I'm going to watch the yogs anymore because I just dont care.
As someone who genuinely believed Sjin did awful stuff but moved pass that or it was just some people hating on someone on a relatively large channel, finding out about Gee and Bouphe was a real wake up call for me. As for TMC the whole ordeal was disappointing as I thought Xeno, TMC and Drakon would bring another golden age of content with the clips and best bits and memes for people that can't watch all the streams, but I'm glad Lewis is stepping up and honestly I worry about how much stress Lewis is going through with all of this going on. Here's hoping to all the Yogs that everyone is doing well and I know they'll come back from this.
I love Lewis so much, he is such a spaz and so funny aswell but honestly it is such a big deal for him to support victims instead of his close friends that he has known for years. So often I see guys defend these assholes which I can understand because ofcourse you want to trust a friend but come on
They got upset when people called them out on their questionable behavior and continued support of Sjin and Turps. Went full meltdown "I don't care what people think of me" mode.
@@berrycolin3911 Continued support of Sjin? He said all that stuff when Sjin got fired didn't he? Not 2 Weeks ago when Bouphe and Gee gave some new info
Yikes, where to start... TMC made a whole bunch of sexist comments about Bouphe and refused to apologise, Turps cheated on his wife, Sjin was generally a creep and Caff was a massive piece of shit.
Lewis makes racist and inappropriate jokes often. I had a lot of respect for him but I have lost a lot through the hipocrosy of holding himself less accountable than he holds others. all you have to do is search for " yogs Lewis inappropriate jokes" and there's currently evidence of him making racist jokes. like I'm not one to start hating but this is shoved in my face. ban madcat while he is worse. maybe it's just business but how has he not also been sunk?
This is like the third video today from someone in the Yogs or that works with them talking about sexual harassment stuff. Is something bad happening ?
@@MrAmazingJeff yeah i honestly have no clue either. don't follow them that much but watch the occasional video. looked up stuff and only see things from 2019
MadCat made some offensive jokes and statements, with some comments made towards Gee and Bouphe. This is why Xeno is now in the Yogs: because he replaced ThatMadCat
@@hilotakenaka please do not go around spreading misinformation like this. Xenophyte is not a replacement for madcat and it has been officially stated that Xenophytes joining of the yogs has been months in the making. Do your research before spreading nonsense. Its not nice to label him as a replacement for madcat just as it was cruel for people to say spiff replaced (redacted).
@@hilotakenaka Xeno was in talks to join the Yogs for MONTHS. He is NOT in to just replace MadCat. MadCat announcing he's been kicked out just happened to coincide with the announcemnent that Xeno joined. See: Spiff's comments on the issue, www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/hgzvyw/confirmed_thatmadcat_to_leave_the_yogscast/fw73ldx?
Are you equating keeping human beings as slaves and then being liberated to the hypothetical banning of keeping animals as pets??? You’re clearly the one who is dumb as hell
What strikes me as odd is I consider myself to be very liberally progressive in most every way, and yet Daltos’s method/ actions taken against community members, I find to be downright despicable. He’s the type of personality to purge a dark history, and remove every artifact that would suggest as much. For better or worse, these former members have made various intense marks on the history and progression of the Yogscast. There needs to be a balance, in my opinion. Shake the rug clean, but don’t rip out the threads. Daltos gives me the vibes of a purist, but the problem is, the internet never is and with any luck, never will be completely pure. Obviously I need to write this out better. Congrats XP on the promotion, do your best not to offend anyone, abuse your power- seemingly greater men & women have done so. I’d hate to see all your hard work scrubbed from the annals of Yogscast.
What actions of Daltos? One of his Discord mods (who was also a MadCat mod) made a big reddit post saying "totally not defending MadCat, but [huge post definitely defending everything MadCat did]." Daltos, understandably, was like "bro wtf" and de-modded that guy because that's not cool. The Yogscast didn't do anything to MadCat at first; people got upset at him for being a shit, then MadCat threw a tantrum like a child, deleted all his videos, and as a result of acting like a child he got kicked.
Fair enough. Daltos definitely wasn't... let's call it diplomatic about it, though I believe his actions were 100% justified (considering he also said in this RUclips comment section that one of the mods he booted had unbanned and re-invited a known literal pedophile into MadCat's Discord.) I guess from his perspective he was tired of seeing this shitty dude defending people who harassed his friends and being generally sexist, all while profiting off of his content, and he just snapped.
Lewis stopped stuff from happening after the Sjin thing? Uhh, they didn't do anything for years until the PR firm was hired and Turps was fired. And then there was Ridgedog even before Sjin. Kinda crazy how Yogscast has been a haven for off-color jokes for almost a decade and only now do people take offense when they think they can score an easy win against them.
The sjin mess is complicated I think he's a good guy he apologized for a lot of the things he did and if he did return he'd get me back as viewer and turps that was wrong... And fuck caff... That guy was a sicko
Daltos basically banned a bunch of madcats old mods on discord from his own servers, people that are mods on a bunch of different yog servers on discord even his own because they stood with madcat
Also wanna ad he didn't ban them because they stood with him but because they made a Reddit post explaining and giving context to the evidence, they did that because they were there and apparently that is bootlicking and defending themadcat
@@Dalleee Those mods harbored and perpetuated behavior that I find repugnant and not at all admissible in my discord, let alone my mods. I found out a day later one of the mods I banned let a pedophile back into madcat cord. I think I made my decision wisely.
@@Daltos Damn of course if they did that they should be banned, also wtf with the pedo thing as well I think the part I didn't like when i saw it happening was the thought of people that was there and gave context to a situation was banned and people that wanted to straighten up situations as well, this might be seen as enabling but i'm in the mindset that all information should be heard. probably some people enable madcat as well but yeah. But i can't see that from the posts and screenshots, but everyone looks at any situations differently. This whole situation is f-upped in any way you look at it, I respect your authority to ban them from your server but that does not mean i like the decision but you have every right to do and i hope you don't see this as an attack
If the yogscast didn’t care so much about sponsorship deals and wanted big hits on RUclips they would probably get everyone back together for a “moonquest” style series like they teased last year but all that fell through.
Good luck having him respect you. He just knocked off Straw berry because her discord had a joke or two. Apparently in the Yogscast you can get away with pedophilia for years but jokes are a no-go as long as you aren’t Simon or Lewis Edit: The people running in to defend the fact they did nothing against Sjin for pedophilia and how somehow jokes are worse just goes to show how far downhill the Yogs are going these days, huh? I’ve been around since ‘Surviving the First Night’, loved Sjin, but you kids gotta be kidding me in defending that.
Nope he got locked out for his inability to apologize something which other members like Simon and Lewis have proven themselves very capable of doing when/if they overstep the mark
fudgeyman99 The minds of people trying to justify things can be so baffling, especially when contradicting info to their claims are readily available. Regardless, I’m glad it took them so long to deal with a pedophile situation that they actively knew about and defended against for 8 years while getting rid of another member instantaneously for having jokes on their discord.
@@WalkinStereotype Fucking basement dwelling clown. All he wants is to keep his company intact. He's not an all-seeing god. As if you knew what to do in the situation when there's words against words. As if you've even done anything productive in your whole life... or even stood up to wrong other than writing angry and stupid comments looooong after a situation has passed. You're pathetic
I know it's hard to accept when someone that we look up to fail us, but denying what Sjin did only makes it worse. I'm sorry that someone you enjoyed watching has to suffer the consequences, but everyone has suffer the consequences of their actions.
Yeah but Sjin is confirmed a creep, who made unwanted advances to Gee and Bouphe, even after he was let go from the Yogscast for those exact reasons. He was funny, but a really shitty person it turns out
@@Grimace1996 If people keep on saying "we miss sjin" it ignores the fact that he sexually harrassed people. We can't make a pass for him just because he was a good content creator.
@@Grimace1996 He wasnt saying that you denied anything but just remarking that denying is not the path to go down, which is sometimes a progression from the sjin sympathy
If you are going to take over from the madcat, i would prefer not to be spammed by short clips like this, and rather have more thought out videos and complications like he did instead of just treating this channel as Yogscast personal /r/LiveStreamFail that's just my opinion. I think if you want to take part of the Drama you will visit their sub, i and probably others just want some entertainment without the drama. I'm all for replacing people who does not behave, but i'd like the drama to be optional.
But that's the thing, they aren't a replacement for madcat. They never were supposed to be either, and they have a very different style of content/clips.
@@evotech I mean yeah, pretty much. Xeno isn't here to replace/take over from madcat though, and they never were meant to, I guess. Idk, it's their channel so I guess they'll post what they want to post, and if thats clips from twitch then so be it.
one made quality content and one is this random I had never even heard of until the real meme compiler was forcibly removed. That is the drama that has to be dealt with and prossessed and if you don't like it then you can leave.
Texting isn't sexual harassment are you a moron. Imagine siding with these women who compare their flirting online with actual harassment and abuse of power.
This is a thinly veiled advertisement for Pox Nora
I mean, this comment has actually made me check out the game, so in a way, you are correct.
"the sjin stuff was the awakening"
disregarding that Turps was the first to be called out
@@OceanusYT turps wasn't the first to be called out. As per his statement today, Lewis admitted failings in the historic cases of Sjin's inappropriate behaviour which he defended and dismissed as flirting back in 2016.
@@adamcreasey471 ok, fair enough
Lewis isn't a boss, he's a real leader
Ryan Howard would love him.
remember DATLOF
I think you'll find lewis is a real leader, AND an absolute BOSS.
Over the years he kind of stopped being my favorite yogscast member but i still have a lot of respect for him
Hes a god damn legend. Lewis has so much resilience and perseveres through this so well
I have so much respect for Lewis. He went from a kid playing WoW and Minecraft to running a relatively large and prosperous corporation. He's even been forced to step in as CEO with all of this. I know that he feels somewhat trapped because so many of his good friends literally depend on him for their careers. I can't imagine how difficult that must be and I think he's doing a great job.
@@AdrianLassie Most people: people shouldn't harm others, especially if it has lifelong implications. This guy: BUT THINK OF THE CONTENT. THEY SAID NOTHING WRONG. *writes angry comment*
@@iantojones8309 They joined the yogscast, not the other way round, if they found it 'harmful' as you put it - they can always leave, and be in the same line of 'work' why are they there in the first place? You act as if you know exactly what Sjin did, and in the case of thatmadcat I find his comments cringe as fuck, but actually feeling threatened by them? Laughable, you do know these snowflakes entered HIS discord, and could also LEAVE his discord. So what's wrong? Are they so emotionally inept that you feel an emotional, digital chain holding you there? Come to think of it, I see that the only reason of how these idiots get themselves into situations where they experience this 'trauma' of 'sexual abuse'. On the FUCKING INTERNET where there is physically NOTHING stopping them from leaving and or pressing BLOCK. Let's create a hypothetical online 'sexual abuse' story that had femoids and soyboys triggered on reddit: The girl recites traumatic experiences the man 'forced' on her during discord message exchanges. The man as a result is displayed, seen as and in turn feels as a complete shitbag, fooling even himself of what really happened. Because what really happened was the entire fucking time he thought his flirting was fine because A- the girl responded, and escalted conversation with him B- showed no dissaproval of his flirting/advances C- As this is an online conversation he assumes that she always has the option to and will leave, if what later became her 'sexual abuse' story is happening at the time.
@@AdrianLassie"Heh the CRAZY SJWS RUINED THE YOGSCAST", Get a fucking life you neckbeard, take a step outside and realize that your hate and bigotry is a minority in this world, and the world rejects you for your horrid attitude. You are so fucking ignorant its funny, "On the FUCKING INTERNET where there is physically NOTHING stopping them from leaving and or pressing BLOCK." its from their coworker you dumb-ass. You don't understand at all how relationships work at all.
@@meowserer1362 @Meowser lmao unfortunately my original reply was removed. probably triggered the AI, not bothered to write again but something I find hilarious - You call me a neckbeard, yet in the video above (who obviously is a saint by all standards for standing up against MUH SEXISM) literally has a neckbeard. Also, I don't know dude being incensitive against neckbeard soyboys is pretty intolerant, I think you should apologise to them, also I'm pretty sure that Simon guy has a pretty 'prominent' neckbeard, fucking kek.
@@AdrianLassie I am intolerant towards reactionary losers, ya got me. and the neckbeard I'm referring to is not a physical trait but a state of mind, reactionary losers like you who blames sexual harassment and assault on the victims instead of the perpetrator because it helps your fragile ego.
Lewis seems to have a very nice outlook on life. It's the kind of outlook that comes from years of seeing shitty things happen to EVERYONE and he wants to try his best for his friends and gets pulled in like 4 different directions yet he always has a fucking smile. The man is a trooper.
Agreed. Lewis could probably leave/sell the yogscast. But instead he keeps trying his best even in the darker times of the brand. So I doubt he does it for the money.
When Simon stepped down a fair bit, he stepped up, and by god he's done such a good job at it despite everything, you can only feel for the guy really.
People mistake Lewis for an enabler, he isn't an enabler, he was just wrong with his knowledge. That is completely different. And until people can learn to identify growth over difference of opinion. We will constantly be losing good people (the Jenna Marbles stuff) to fear of being targeted and brutalised over the wrong information.
@Shreyas Misra You realise turps was married and was messaging minors right? Also sjin was sexually harassing fans as well as his co workers, if no one else does that shit they aren't gonna get let go.
Shin bo Didn’t see any proof just he said she said but sure
Turps apologised for it and stood down. What you on about.
@@agentdash8999 Check reddit m8
www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/hhyh8n/update_on_harassment_in_gaming_and_thatmadcat/?
It annoys me when I see people hating on Lewis for deffending Sjin for so long at first, he was just really close freinds with him and didn't belive the allegations or want to belive them and probably just assumed that it was people just having ago at a famous person for attention so he lost his temper with the victims and accusers cause he probably just saw it as them were lying and bullying him. But obviously when he saw it so undeniably clearly with Caff he instantly asked fans to come forward about more yogs and when they called out his close friends Turps and Sjin he got an investagor and a HR person in and fired them when the allegations turned out to be true despite how close he was with them
Multiple pre teens sent them proof for years, and he drunkenly yelled on a stream that sjin can flirt with whoever he wants
and then he went crying on reddit about how they ruined sjins reputation and if it was real why didn't they go to the cops.
Lewis knew shit and is only playing nice now because multiple members have stepped forward
@@krablord Honestly that's the first I've heard of that. Not defending Lewis or attacking you, generally curious. Do you have any proof or a link I could follow?
@@jerg1917 I second this
@@jerg1917 I'm trying to look for the links but I'm not sure if the clip exists anymore. I was around during the time tho and Lewis was genuinely personally very upset about the whole fiasco because to him there were a lot of people going out of their way to slander his friend. He did have an angry rant on stream, though I do not remember the contents exactly. I will say that, not to defend Lewis, but the evidence was dubious and the main account came from sjin's ex girlfriend who was let go from the yogs, and could have been seen as a biased account. A lot of the information and people who came together to confront the yogscast about sjin were also on tumblr, which was known for being kinda wierd and not very reliable in terms of information cos the yogs seemed to have a very bad impression of tumblr at the time at least. So Lewis had assumed all evidence presented was false. I will say that he should have known better and this investigation should have happened years ago. Lewis is definitely at fault but you can also see why it happened the way it did. Either way I'm glad it's finally been resolved and he's learnt to handle all this as well as he has now
@@jerg1917 ah i found the reddit post at least www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/4eslrn/deck_rippers_megathread_april_14th_2016_please/d232zus/
It’s a damn shame to see this dark era consuming the Yogscast. I’ve been a Yognaught for over 10 years now and to see such humble beginnings grow into something grand and beautiful, then be stricken with a plague such as this is heartbreaking. I hope the victims of this behaviour get the support they need, they deserve better.
Captain Falcon it feels like the Yogscast have finally started to come to an end, which to me, feels like it should never happen
Bro it’s been going on for like 8 years remember RidgeDog?
@@GreenEyedDazzler The Yogscast have had plenty of controversies but I feel like they've handled everything nicely up until the Turps/Sjin situation.
@@vetofallen6227 the problem with the skin situation is that it was kind of just swept under the carpet when it first came out, I remember minty making these allegations years earlier
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Took the words right out of my mouth
I'm glad this clip won't get buried.
Lewis has been graying in recent years, I really hope he finds a nice plateau to rest upon. He really does deserve it.
The people who hate on Lewis are such hypocrites, I'd love for them to honestly sit and think about how they would feel if a very close friend of their's was accused of something like Sjin was. I'd wager heavily they would immediately deny it and protect their friend, yet they slam Lewis for apparently 'ignoring' claims. Of course you're gonna trust your close friend over some random person on the internet making claims. He took the logical approach and waited for some concisive evidence to come out and then took action.
Not a random person on the internet. It was Sjin's ex-girlfriend who had been fired from the Yogscast a year earlier. I doubt anyone would've believed it.
My thing with the whole original Sjin situation was that Lewis (and co) handled it badly and we can't just excuse that by saying 'well it was his friend', because at the end of the day people were getting hurt. The situation should have been taken more seriously and the fact is it just wasn't. That being said, what he HAS shown over the past couple of years with all of this shit is that he has grown up and, crucially, has stepped up to the plate to try to fix it and protect people. A lot of people/companies would continue to deny or downplay, but I really respect the way he and the rest of the Yogscast have handled everything. They could have very easily said that Sjin had already been investigated for past allegations (which they did internally at the time), but instead they went back with an external investigation and removed a huge player from their team who some fans STILL make excuses for and want back in. They did the right thing, not the easiest thing.
Lewis, is a blessing for us all. From the awkwardness and the funny all the way to the strait up just a good personness. I want to be like him when Im older.
Not because of any of that I just want some Yogsquest money.
Thanks for this Xen, I subbed for the stream edits but uploading content like this really impacts the community in a beneficial way.
I'm proud of daltos for his words and you for allowing me to hear them.
Thank you
Well said.
Congrats on your editing job 👏
@@EETDUK his editing job is this. Making comps for yogscast. There may be other work in Xeno's life, but this is now official, so I think that's what they mean
My respect for Lewis increased a thousandfold after the drama
I guess we'll start the movie night
I love Daltos. He's such a straight shooting down to earth dude.
With members leaving the yogscast and a few of them blaming the toxicity of the fanbase I was expecting less support for the company as it is right now. But I am so overjoyed and relieved there are still so many yognaughts who love the Yogscast especially Lewis who is undoubtedly trying his best to make things work. I have been a fan since the Archer Hero adventure map so I might not be one of the original watchers from WoW but I still think myself of someone who watched them grow from unknown faces to cherished friends. I wish them all the best and can hopefully bounce back from the recent events.
I have a lot of respect for Daltos because he recognizes how hard Lewis works to maintain order and positivity for the whole network. Daltos is king
Honestly most of the members I think feel the same.
Daltos said so clamly what my brain is screaming. So many bad apples
Great, first I give Sijn the benefit of the doubt back when he got kicked out as hopes that they were just fake accusations of the worse stuff but believed in the dark humour jokes part only to have confirmed that the main accusations are legitimate with official sources.....I feel like an idiot now
I wouldnt feel like an idiot. If there is no evidence, you shouldnt blindly rally against someone. Now that there is evidence, you have a moral obligation to drop them, but not before.
I like sjin. I'll still have him back tyvm
@@braydenh190 being so willing to sweep horrible actions under the rug just because you like someone is part of the overall problem here
@@hanmetalworks Id take sjin back as well. And I'm not sweeping his actions under the rug. I just understand that people do people stuff and everyone fucks up. Hes not some kind of Epstein super freak.
@@Khronogi yeah, I am always for redemption rather than cancellation
Respect. Damn, I'm really scared to read the Sjin messages. I really loved Sjin.
The few that are available are quite upsetting, I'm glad the rest aren't public because apparently they're much worse
I loved Sjin as an entertainer and still do miss his content. But I acknowledge the fact that he isnt a good person and therefore should not have a platform to abuse.
if you're scared don't read it, just accept he fucked up and move on, it would ruin any good memory and moment he had with the boys, you don't have to subject yourself to this if you feel like you're not ready
@@hackedskull respectfully disagree. it's always better to suffer from the truth than to ignore it for your own comfort. it's important to confront these hard truths, learn from them, and know not to sweep shit like this under the rug, even if you're not ready. you'll never be fully ready for anything like this.
@@hanmetalworks respectfully agree. but not everyone is like you and have different threshold of "how much shit I should subject myself to"
they can do it later when they're more ready to do it, but if they don't want to have ruined childhood, maybe they shouldn't....
Came on to see all the pessimistic comments. Don't worry too much. This hurts, but if anything this proves Yogscast to be the people needs to be preserved in the industry. This isn't the end of their career but quite the opposite.
I don't get it, what happened? Did I miss something?
Can anyone give me a little bit of an update on what happened? Hope all yogs and yognaughts are safe and well
A while back Sjin, Turps & Caff were kicked out the Yogs for pedophilia / sexual relations with fans / etc. Recently, Bouphe & Geestar came out saying they had inappropriate pictures/messages sent to them by Sjin and others. Then Xenohpyte joined the Yogs, and ThatMadCat was kicked out for inappropriate lines in his discord (asking everyone if they're girls, etc)
@@timothymeyer3210 ThatMadCat did what? I didn't hear about this, what happened?
The Colorful Salesman ThatMadCat came across as weird to women in his discord, and apparently he’s a bit misogynistic in general? The situation is pretty weird. He’s leaving the yogscast.
@@LiamWillisFilmmaker bruh why ThatMadCat gotta do that. I supported him and shit :(
@@timothymeyer3210 the thing about xenophyte has been goin on for a while now, he's not a replacement for thatmadcat, as far as I know
It’s easy to feel like Lewis is a creep because of how many borderline creepy and sexist jokes he makes, but when it comes down to it, everything Lewis does it from a place of genuine caring. He doesn’t make those awkward jokes because he’s a creep, he does it because he’s genuinely just that awkward of a person.
I agree, I remember seeing a stream clip in some compilation where Lewis jokingly asks Leo (I think) if he's a creep, and you could see him die a little inside when she didn't really answer. If he was a creep and not just some awkward nerd I don't think he would have taken the hit in silence like he did
Lewis may be the leaving breathing example of “foot in mouth” he seems to be a decent fellow
Hey Xeno just incase you see this. I want to say. You’re not a replacement for me. You’re someone completely new and I’m excited to see what you create. 💖
After watching the Yogs for 9 years, it's really heartbreaking to see all these bad things happening to Lewis. If you ask me he's doing a great job. I just hope everything turns out okay for the Yogs.
“So many bad apples” is such a bullshit excuse.
Hey, just wanted to contribute a comment saying how I've always loved your edits and videos, and I hope you keep going the way you want to go, don't get distracted by people who want you to be madcat! ❤️
Gotta come back and say Daltos is the man
I don’t think the yogscast is gonna last til the 20 year anniversary
Glad to see you stepping up and helping to inform everyone about this stuff.
Trott and Daltos' words have certainly cleared up/put into perspective some of the stuff that's been going on.
Hope to see more stuff from you, whether that is this sort of thing, or the great stream highlights from before.
For anyone interested - Lewis has posted an update: www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/hhyh8n/update_on_harassment_in_gaming_and_thatmadcat/
I'm finding out what a lot of the Yogs look like for the first time
A worrying thought is that this kinda stuff becomes significant enough to discourage the yogs to the point of collapse (even if only partial) of the Yogscast. I'd say it's very unlikely without a whole lot more of this kinda thing happening, but it's a possibility.
It's a shame that the people with charisma are the ones that fucked up. Could use some fewer interns for the 5000th week of TTT.
find it so odd that sjin was playing with some of my workshop content and asking me what it did on stream only for a couple days later to be fired
Well Xeno, you are the new madcat I suppose. This whole situation sucks man. I will miss all of the clips from madcat's channel, so I hope do you compilations of good moments because I thrived on that.
Also gg on getting into Yogs :))
I'm so glad Lewis is such a good person and boss. He's been doing such a great job through all of this. Hope he gets a well earned and much deserved break from the stressful stuff soon. And meanwhile he can still make us all laugh and at moments cringe XD
There are few non-fictional people I respect as much as Lewis; politicians, business owners, most people in positions of authority: they’re all pretty shit, and then there’s that boy shining a ray of not complete assholery and I have at least a little faith left in humanity
Wish him luck
I just now learned that Gee and Bouphe have been harassed by Turps and Sjin which led them to be removed from the Yogscast. What else am I missing?
I’m fairly certain that they’ve only spoken out against Sjin and Turps. Sips has nothing to do with the current events.
Jolls981 My bad. I meant to write Turps and Sjin. I must’ve been thinking about Sips at the moment.
Sup Schmuck It’s hard not to think about Sips in times like this. As he’s away from the office a lot of the time he’s just like us, suddenly learning that some of the people he was close to were involved in some shady business, even hurting other people he cared about. This entire situation sucks but it’s better that this has been brought to light, to prevent anyone else getting hurt.
thats not what led to be removed though. thats recent news that has come out after the fact.
Thatmadcat was also kicked out for being a misogynistic creep
gee and bouphe stuff? what happened?
but what about Chris Trott and all of his crimes?
I'll stand by chris trott despite all he's done
???
I stand by the fishy little boik, #Iforgivechristrott
This is why daltos is woke AF. True way of putting it in words haha
We are never going to get that turkish oil wrestling video are we? :(
Ok, but Daltos can get this bussy x2 now
Finally, a comment speaking for the People.
I'm very confused what's happening here if someone wants to give me the cliff notes I'd appreciate it
Whelp.....I never thought I would unsubscribe from the Yogscast but since it became a "network" and not friends playing together and having fun its became a real shit show. Plus I personally still like Sjins and Tups' content and I am not sorry for that because for me the best content the Yogs made featured Sjin. I am in no way condoning what they may have did but I can separate the content creator from the private individual. Its been amazing these past 10 years but this Yognaught is leaving for good.
Honestly, if them addressing and putting a stop to people being sexual predators and making racist or misogynistic comments is what makes you stop following the channel, you really need to evaluate the headspace you're in. I loved Sjin and his content before all that disgusting stuff came to light. At that point, he needed to go. Same with Turps and Caff.
Can someone fill me in on what’s been happening?
Anything in particular?
Really interested, but I don’t really follow yogs social media or anything
Tl:Dr. Sjin, Turps, and now ThatMadCat were all creeps and the first two sexually harassed Bouphe and Gee.
Sjin and Turps sexual harassment claims from a while back have been effectively confirmed by Gee and Bouphe as they experienced it themselves.
TMC was killed by mob justice due to jokes he made on discord to the point keeping him would be a liability for the yogs.
@@TheMorbidHobo I wouldn't call it mob justice when TMC had such an easy out: apologise instead of doubling down.
@@RonnocFroop apologising to a mob never ends well. Never.
@@TheMorbidHobo Even if that was true (which it isn't, especially in cases like this), there's a huge difference between not apologising and doubling down.
Lewis is a good person and people know that, the thing is people dont believe him bucause he shows no evidence, for example, when bouphe came out she sead that Turps and Sjin had texted her and shown her sexual pictures, now someone can find those text, and since theis people are long gone why not show the text, and trust me if Lewis shows us the text literally the CEO of the yogscast no one will think heas lyeing, if you do theres no hellping you
The situation happened as follows:
Bouphe was defending her friend that was being accused of sexual harassment.
Bouphe was called out for defending turps and sjin, that she also defends the accused.
Bouphe retorted, saying she never defended sjin or turps, and wouldn't because she herself was harassed by turps and sjin.
Gee came out saying she too was harassed by turps and sjin.
Tom, Harry, and a few others came out saying they knew how sjin was, that they knew what he did, that he did it often, and refused to stop doing it after being told many times to stop, to the point that they had to stop hanging with him.
That is 4+ people within the company that had experienced turps and sjin's behaviour first hand.
I was one of the first people to originally just to the defence of these two, and I am still defending ThatMadCat, but at this point the writing is on the wall, even without physical evidence.
Can anyone tell me what happened? Havent watched the yogs in several weeks.
Do you remember how Sjin, Tups and Caff were kicked out for being sexual predators? Bouphe and Geestar recently came out as victims from atleast Sjin, not sure about the others. Also ThatMadCat was kicked out for being a misogynistic creep.
EDIT: Turns out they came out about Sijn and Turps, not just Sjin
@@MrDavincikoden
Thanks fam.
I mean I never cared for turps but damn... Sjin really broke my heart.
Its life I suppose, I wish the best for bouphe and gee.
@@MrDavincikoden The cat misogynistic? I beg you pardon?? TheMadCat is a woman you dumb fool. I am sick of communists like you ruining everything
@@captainmccuckin2698 women can be misogynists, but regardless, that's not the situation here. TheMadCat made jokes, a subsection of the community got offended and demanded an apology from her, to which she refused, saying they were just jokes. The subsection (reddit) got all up-in-arms and effectively called for her removal. Lewis obliged, trying to distance his company from controversy.
@@TheMorbidHobo I dare you to make a joke that is not going to offend someone you communist
Gee and Bouphe stuff???
I hate to ask but what happened with Gee and Bouphe?
Lewis has always been honest with us, for which he owes our respect
No he hasn't, he literally said Sjin was neither innocent nor guilty which is a lie.
BnAnna it’s not up to Lewis to decide who’s guilty or not, that’s the job of a judge. Just like it’d up to the victims to press charges or not.
@@BnAnna That actually isn't a lie. Since he can't be proven either way except in a court of law. Sjin is a fucking douche and a creep, but Lewis' statement wasn't false.
Is this the me2 on Twitch or is there another internal yogscast thing again
Gee and Bouphe stuff -what now? I watch 20min edited videos not the Big Brother house that is Twitch.
Gee and Bouphe mentioned they were two of Sjin's victims, is the short version of it
Basically Sjin is much much worse than we all originally thought, even going so far as to sexually harass Bouphe and Geestar on multiple counts, I believe Turps was involved as well. Safe to say, they are scumfuck nobodies who deserve to be forgotten.
@@larryhoover2541 where can I read bout this?
@@ahhhhyes bouphes twitter
@@choppychop6 thanks
Lewis is an actual office hero
Respect to all Yogscast ! Hard worker and brilliant individuals
What's happened now?
He is referencing Bouphe and Gee coming out about being sexualy harassed by Turps and Sjin. Also the whole thing with Caff being a POS and a creep. Apparently, That Mad Cat was also fired for continuing to make misogynistic jokes/comments after being reprimanded for it
"I feel bad for the guy, he's losing his hair over this shit." DAMN! LOL! No but really, I applaud the Yogscast and Lewis on how everything is being handled. Really good people.
What's this about?
this was in my recommended and I have no idea what anything is can someone explain?
Yogscast had a few members of their network accused of sexual misconduct a while back. One fled the country and his misconduct involved minors. The other two willingly left the yogscast to not tarnish it name. Those two had little to no evidence of wrong doing, but recently two other members of the network came out saying they experience the misconduct first-hand, and a few others came out confirming this behaviour was regular for thise two members and despite help, they would not change.
As a separate incident, anouther more recent member was accused of misogyny, racism, etc. Based on comments he made on discord. These comments were obvious jokes, dark and/or ironic, but still very much jokes. Nevertheless, people stripped them of context and complained about them. When asked to apologise for the jokes he said no, that they were just jokes. He was also defending and featuring the previous two members that were commiting sexual misconduct, due to the lack of evidence against them. This stopped well before the statements made by other members.
Regardless, because of the pressure put against the network by the community, the member was removed.
@@TheMorbidHobo ah I see thank you so much
@@TheMorbidHobo I would say there there very much was against all three of them. Turps admitted to it, and doing a very small amount of searching confirms the hell out of thw accusations against Caff.
@@copo2835 Caff absolutely. Turps admitted to cheating on his wife, nothing else.
Whats the drama now?
madcat out
@@Erlisch1337 what did she he do? and whats the stuff about bouphe and geestar
@@andrewstevenson9070 and that other dude that did some grooming
MadCat also was removed from the yogscast today, idk if it was for the same reasons though
@@ryansexplorations3939 madcat got removed because the reddit community got pissy about some jokes he made that he refused to apologise for.
Wait what happend with bouph And Gee?
@@EETDUK Hahaha, he's such a fucking idiot. This is tragicomical
@@EETDUK And Turps. Both of the harassed Bouphe & Gee.
What was the substance of Gee & Bouphe allegations against Sjin?
I’m uneasy with the idea that admittedly cringey flirtation with coworkers is being equated to sexual harassment.
I do think if he repeatedly bothered them when they asked him to stop, that’s a problem. But I still wouldn’t call that sexual harassment. Certainly not fireable.
There's a freaking difference between being a bit rude and actually being a pedo. not even giving that mad cat a chance to apologize is despicable. I get that with sjin and others you cant just apologize for but we live in a God damn society for fucks sake and we can talk through things without shoving the door in someones face, and if somebody doesn't want to be seen in one of his videos then he can just take it down and edit it. Or if the problem is just that it's on TMC channel then TMC can give the let's say rythian the video so if he wants to he can upload it on his channel. This is a perfect example of the left going to far and immediately ostracizing people who even have a slightly different opinion. Sry about this rant, I'm just pissed because my favorite youtuber was that MadCat and now I'm honestly not sure if I'm going to watch the yogs anymore because I just dont care.
Why do you sound like Daltos?
That is Daltos. This guy makes clips and compilations from the yogscast streams.
You're gonna REALLY need to step up your game with MadCat gone.
As someone who genuinely believed Sjin did awful stuff but moved pass that or it was just some people hating on someone on a relatively large channel, finding out about Gee and Bouphe was a real wake up call for me.
As for TMC the whole ordeal was disappointing as I thought Xeno, TMC and Drakon would bring another golden age of content with the clips and best bits and memes for people that can't watch all the streams, but I'm glad Lewis is stepping up and honestly I worry about how much stress Lewis is going through with all of this going on. Here's hoping to all the Yogs that everyone is doing well and I know they'll come back from this.
Who is this?
He is the best dad
I love Lewis so much, he is such a spaz and so funny aswell but honestly it is such a big deal for him to support victims instead of his close friends that he has known for years.
So often I see guys defend these assholes which I can understand because ofcourse you want to trust a friend but come on
MADCAT PRIVATED ALL HIS VIDEOS, Y?
They got upset when people called them out on their questionable behavior and continued support of Sjin and Turps. Went full meltdown "I don't care what people think of me" mode.
@@berrycolin3911 Continued support of Sjin? He said all that stuff when Sjin got fired didn't he? Not 2 Weeks ago when Bouphe and Gee gave some new info
@@Jorgen223 He didn't apologise for the actions, which was the problem.
why Madcat WHY!!! I liked his videos so much.....
He just seems really petty now that people call him out.
I have a lot of respect for Lewis because he's learned how to get away with all the stupid shit he says
Wait, what's going on?
Yikes, where to start... TMC made a whole bunch of sexist comments about Bouphe and refused to apologise, Turps cheated on his wife, Sjin was generally a creep and Caff was a massive piece of shit.
Lewis makes racist and inappropriate jokes often. I had a lot of respect for him but I have lost a lot through the hipocrosy of holding himself less accountable than he holds others. all you have to do is search for " yogs Lewis inappropriate jokes" and there's currently evidence of him making racist jokes. like I'm not one to start hating but this is shoved in my face. ban madcat while he is worse. maybe it's just business but how has he not also been sunk?
This is like the third video today from someone in the Yogs or that works with them talking about sexual harassment stuff.
Is something bad happening ?
You're either blind or trolling.
Santashark15 Nope it’s a genuine question
@@MrAmazingJeff yeah i honestly have no clue either. don't follow them that much but watch the occasional video. looked up stuff and only see things from 2019
I used to like the Yogscast but now all the post is TTT videos and stuff they no longer do original content and it’s sad to see
maybe unpopular opinion, but i fucking love TTT. i live for that shit
What happened?
MadCat made some offensive jokes and statements, with some comments made towards Gee and Bouphe. This is why Xeno is now in the Yogs: because he replaced ThatMadCat
@@hilotakenaka source?
MadCat drama, also additional stuff came out about Sjin and Turps.
@@hilotakenaka please do not go around spreading misinformation like this. Xenophyte is not a replacement for madcat and it has been officially stated that Xenophytes joining of the yogs has been months in the making. Do your research before spreading nonsense. Its not nice to label him as a replacement for madcat just as it was cruel for people to say spiff replaced (redacted).
@@hilotakenaka Xeno was in talks to join the Yogs for MONTHS. He is NOT in to just replace MadCat. MadCat announcing he's been kicked out just happened to coincide with the announcemnent that Xeno joined. See: Spiff's comments on the issue, www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/hgzvyw/confirmed_thatmadcat_to_leave_the_yogscast/fw73ldx?
People are dumb as hell. If having pets was all of a sudden slavery pet owners would come under the exact same fire
Are you equating keeping human beings as slaves and then being liberated to the hypothetical banning of keeping animals as pets??? You’re clearly the one who is dumb as hell
What strikes me as odd is I consider myself to be very liberally progressive in most every way, and yet Daltos’s method/ actions taken against community members, I find to be downright despicable. He’s the type of personality to purge a dark history, and remove every artifact that would suggest as much. For better or worse, these former members have made various intense marks on the history and progression of the Yogscast. There needs to be a balance, in my opinion. Shake the rug clean, but don’t rip out the threads. Daltos gives me the vibes of a purist, but the problem is, the internet never is and with any luck, never will be completely pure. Obviously I need to write this out better. Congrats XP on the promotion, do your best not to offend anyone, abuse your power- seemingly greater men & women have done so. I’d hate to see all your hard work scrubbed from the annals of Yogscast.
Madcat decided to purge his channel of his own volition, probably as part of a big tantrum to try and win people to his side.
What actions of Daltos? One of his Discord mods (who was also a MadCat mod) made a big reddit post saying "totally not defending MadCat, but [huge post definitely defending everything MadCat did]." Daltos, understandably, was like "bro wtf" and de-modded that guy because that's not cool. The Yogscast didn't do anything to MadCat at first; people got upset at him for being a shit, then MadCat threw a tantrum like a child, deleted all his videos, and as a result of acting like a child he got kicked.
Fair enough. Daltos definitely wasn't... let's call it diplomatic about it, though I believe his actions were 100% justified (considering he also said in this RUclips comment section that one of the mods he booted had unbanned and re-invited a known literal pedophile into MadCat's Discord.) I guess from his perspective he was tired of seeing this shitty dude defending people who harassed his friends and being generally sexist, all while profiting off of his content, and he just snapped.
Lewis stopped stuff from happening after the Sjin thing? Uhh, they didn't do anything for years until the PR firm was hired and Turps was fired. And then there was Ridgedog even before Sjin. Kinda crazy how Yogscast has been a haven for off-color jokes for almost a decade and only now do people take offense when they think they can score an easy win against them.
What the fuck do you do when there's words against words? He's not a fucking cop or a judge. Idiot...
@@TROONTRON If those mental gymnastics help you sleep at night, sure.
@@FyberOptic You're projecting so hard I think you'd be considered a cinema.
hope sjin still comes back as an individual entertainer, though, despite everything
The sjin mess is complicated I think he's a good guy he apologized for a lot of the things he did and if he did return he'd get me back as viewer and turps that was wrong... And fuck caff... That guy was a sicko
Does this channel have Sjin content?
Daltos basically banned a bunch of madcats old mods on discord from his own servers, people that are mods on a bunch of different yog servers on discord even his own because they stood with madcat
Also wanna ad he didn't ban them because they stood with him but because they made a Reddit post explaining and giving context to the evidence, they did that because they were there and apparently that is bootlicking and defending themadcat
@@Dalleee Those mods harbored and perpetuated behavior that I find repugnant and not at all admissible in my discord, let alone my mods. I found out a day later one of the mods I banned let a pedophile back into madcat cord. I think I made my decision wisely.
@@Daltos Damn of course if they did that they should be banned, also wtf with the pedo thing as well
I think the part I didn't like when i saw it happening was the thought of people that was there and gave context to a situation was banned and people that wanted to straighten up situations as well, this might be seen as enabling but i'm in the mindset that all information should be heard. probably some people enable madcat as well but yeah. But i can't see that from the posts and screenshots, but everyone looks at any situations differently.
This whole situation is f-upped in any way you look at it, I respect your authority to ban them from your server but that does not mean i like the decision but you have every right to do and i hope you don't see this as an attack
When there are enough bad apples we must look at the problem as a systemic issue
Soy Cast, 2020 claims another victim.
Madcat got fired. Guess your the new madcat
If the yogscast didn’t care so much about sponsorship deals and wanted big hits on RUclips they would probably get everyone back together for a “moonquest” style series like they teased last year but all that fell through.
Good luck having him respect you. He just knocked off Straw berry because her discord had a joke or two. Apparently in the Yogscast you can get away with pedophilia for years but jokes are a no-go as long as you aren’t Simon or Lewis
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The people running in to defend the fact they did nothing against Sjin for pedophilia and how somehow jokes are worse just goes to show how far downhill the Yogs are going these days, huh? I’ve been around since ‘Surviving the First Night’, loved Sjin, but you kids gotta be kidding me in defending that.
just going to ignore that its a different time now than 8 years ago?
Erlisch so pedophilia was okay 8 years ago?
Nope he got locked out for his inability to apologize something which other members like Simon and Lewis have proven themselves very capable of doing when/if they overstep the mark
fudgeyman99 The minds of people trying to justify things can be so baffling, especially when contradicting info to their claims are readily available. Regardless, I’m glad it took them so long to deal with a pedophile situation that they actively knew about and defended against for 8 years while getting rid of another member instantaneously for having jokes on their discord.
@@WalkinStereotype
Fucking basement dwelling clown. All he wants is to keep his company intact. He's not an all-seeing god. As if you knew what to do in the situation when there's words against words. As if you've even done anything productive in your whole life... or even stood up to wrong other than writing angry and stupid comments looooong after a situation has passed.
You're pathetic
But I miss Sjin
I know it's hard to accept when someone that we look up to fail us, but denying what Sjin did only makes it worse. I'm sorry that someone you enjoyed watching has to suffer the consequences, but everyone has suffer the consequences of their actions.
@@Zarkxac493 didn't deny anything, what're you talking about
Yeah but Sjin is confirmed a creep, who made unwanted advances to Gee and Bouphe, even after he was let go from the Yogscast for those exact reasons. He was funny, but a really shitty person it turns out
@@Grimace1996 If people keep on saying "we miss sjin" it ignores the fact that he sexually harrassed people. We can't make a pass for him just because he was a good content creator.
@@Grimace1996 He wasnt saying that you denied anything but just remarking that denying is not the path to go down, which is sometimes a progression from the sjin sympathy
If you are going to take over from the madcat, i would prefer not to be spammed by short clips like this, and rather have more thought out videos and complications like he did instead of just treating this channel as Yogscast personal /r/LiveStreamFail that's just my opinion.
I think if you want to take part of the Drama you will visit their sub, i and probably others just want some entertainment without the drama.
I'm all for replacing people who does not behave, but i'd like the drama to be optional.
But that's the thing, they aren't a replacement for madcat. They never were supposed to be either, and they have a very different style of content/clips.
@@sourmilk118 One makes quality content, the other rips directly form twitch? :D
@@evotech I mean yeah, pretty much. Xeno isn't here to replace/take over from madcat though, and they never were meant to, I guess. Idk, it's their channel so I guess they'll post what they want to post, and if thats clips from twitch then so be it.
REPLACE is where you're wrong
one made quality content and one is this random I had never even heard of until the real meme compiler was forcibly removed. That is the drama that has to be dealt with and prossessed and if you don't like it then you can leave.
Too bad they've been redacted so they can't speak up in their own defence.
There is no defense for sexual harassment on multiple counts
ChippyChoppy also, TMC had ample opportunity to apologise and was even asked to. It was his own stubbornness that got him fired
Texting isn't sexual harassment are you a moron.
Imagine siding with these women who compare their flirting online with actual harassment and abuse of power.
I miss MadCat
Whelp, Guess you're the replacement for Mad Cat now
#bringbackmadcat