I love how at the beginning, there’s text like “Ruth and her family meet Jimmy’s family” Right next to “THE USS LOS ANGELES IS LOST OFF THE IRANIAN COAST” It’s like flicking between a romance channel and a military warfare channel
Whilst the first half of this docu drama does deal with the central characters, what is in the background and eventually takes over is the unfolding world events that lead to the nuclear strike on Sheffield/England. It demonstrates, if nothing else, how uprapaired Britain was in the early 80's and to an extent we are now. There was by invitation large amounts of U.S. personnel and their hardware, which included nuclear weapons, including B52 bombers all over the UK at strategic places. The Americans remained in Britain for many years it was only until recently they left and went home. This is absolutely terrifying insight into what could possibly happen to the UK and the world at large if there was a thermonuclear exchange.
@Ruddyscheeseemporium because during 80's Margaret Thatcher allowed a lot of US military hardware into Britain. That included nuclear weapons and the means to ensure they reached their targets. The flying time would have been shorter from joint US/UK Air Force basses. Look up Greenham Common air base it was the focus of mass protests against American W.M .D s .
Ironically the real Sheffield town hall was destroyed and pulled down by the local government just a few years after building it. So they destroyed it before any real attack did! They used to waste material to fill in an under-pass road system they’d built 20 years or so before which was also deemed not needed despite rising traffic levels!
The councils will have all the luxuries and supplies they need under the town hall. It will be like living at work in a way.....the polar opposite of WFH during Covid .
that's the thing people don't consider. You may have supplies in your bunker, but if debris prevents you from leaving, food runs out, water runs out, and if anyone gets sick, you are breathing that air.
I was around Jimmy's age in 1984 I'm 63 now.. At that time I was working at a UK defence contractor now called Bae Systems in the NW Uk.. We all knew how close this was and that we were a "legitimate" target. The thing that pissed us off was that there was a nuclear bunker pretty dammed close to us but we would be shot trying to enter it. It was for Civil "dignitaries " and civil defence .. We always said if the bomb dropped and any of us survived ..We would hunt down the air ventilation system and block it off.. What use would those tossers be when they came out?? No engineers ,farmers tradesmen =No future .Always planning to safeguard the wrong people. Now I am having to feel concern for my Grandkids ,again because of a lunatic ffs
That’s literally treason. No wonder Russia thinks the west is so decadent. No one has national pride here. The Russians live in relative poverty compared to us and they’d happily die in droves for their nation and Putin
I wouldn't worry yourself Dave, this isn't the days of the union. One man wouldn't throw away everything that gives him his power, hence the phrase all bark and no bite.
I lived near Ottawa Ontario, just up the road from the Diefenbunker. That thing would have been a prime target, and my then house except for the basement would have been blown to matchsticks.
The only thing I really disagree with is about human society being cast back only 'hundreds' of years. The reality is that hundreds and even a couple of thousand years ago society was complex and filled with an important mixture and balance of educated and highly skilled people. We're really talking about transplanting unskilled survivors into a dangerous wasteland they don't understand. Even the so-called Dark Ages would be a picnic in comparison.
I never actually realised that the US was technically the aggressor in the war - I always thought the Russians invaded Iran for no reason. Then again, it doesn't really make any odds either way. The point is the war touches off for no good reason when you really boil it down.
it makes sense considering the US' foreign policy historically - at least in my opinion the reason China adopted MAD was because the Americans were seen to be the ones that would strike first in the majority of cases.
The US would never be the aggressor. We have much more to lose in a nuclear war. We’re already the wealthiest and most powerful and influential country in human history. We have global hegemony. Why would we want a nuclear war Avoiding nuclear war is why the US hasn’t done for Ukraine what we did for Kuwait in 1991. In a conventional war we’d steamroll Russia in similar fashion to the Gulf War. But nuclear fear mongering keeps us from liberating Ukraine
That's when it was screened. A year earlier the Americans produced their own version called The Day After. It should be remembered this was a pretty Febrile time, with the USSR going through a succession of leaders after Brezhnev died, with Andropov and Chernenko both dying after short periods in charge before Gorbachev emerged in 1986. We now know that only a Russian missile monitoring station commander judging an apparent missile launch by the US as a false alarm prevented a Soviet 'retaliatory' stroke in 1983. Those were pretty scary days.
I think I still have PTSD from watching this in 1984 😬 lol. I moved into the inner city in 1985 specifically because I figured if things really kicked off I'd "go up in the first flash" lol And just as a friendly FYI, it's 'Pact' and not 'Pack
The entire video is riddled with spelling mistakes, even the same words are repeatedly spelled incorrectly. The proofreaders died in the blasts presumably.
Same here. I had trouble sleeping for weeks after watching the original USA broadcast. At the height of the Cold War this scenario was horribly plausible, the most frightening and realistic horror movie ever. Watching this video stirred up some of that anxiety for me.
@@Lysimachus also buddy almost word for word copied the plot summary given on Wikipedia. That information being filtered through him ended up being garbled nonsense.
I know that the Fallout London mod has taken some inspiration from threads obviously with it being one of our only good nuclear apocalypse movies. Probably the closest were gonna get lol
My parents were just a few years younger than jimmy and Ruth would have been at the time this film was made. For some reason I picture my own family at the time and how they would have dealt with this situation, which makes it considerably more haunting than it otherwise is while viewing it on a personal level. Threads Is truly the most disturbing film I have ever seen and I don’t think that anything will ever surpass it
I'm old enough to have watched this in school in the UK as a teeanger, and it scared me s**tless, which after all was it's job. I had nightmares about being in my bedroom and hearing a siren, and the last thing I'd see was a flash of light and heat.
Not just me then. I first saw it in my teens in the mid 90s, we watched it at a cadet training night. My bed faced the east facing bedroom window and was summer. Every morning I'd wake up shitting myself at the bright sunrise lol
I remember watching “Threads” here in the US back in 1984. The hospital scene still gives me nightmares. The most horrifying scene I’ve ever seen in any film. I know I’m not the only one curious as to what the UK (or what was the UK) and the rest of the world would be like 40 years after the attacks. They should make a sequel or something.
You should see the "banned" (at the time) predecessor to Threads, whose name I've now cleverly forgotten (should be easy to find, though). Being in black and white doesn't reduce the impact one bit.
Hello, I commented on this video a few weeks ago but I believe there was a glitch and my comment disappeared. I'm here to thank you for making this video, the small fanbase dedicated to Threads over on reddit, discord, and facebook are very grateful. We were going to make a similar video, but oh well, you beat us to it! Good luck with the channel!
He copied the plot summary from Wikipedia and then butchered it horrendously. This is not a good video by any metric and there’s nothing here that one couldn’t find on Wikipedia, in the same firm only minus all the basic spelling errors. If you want to thank somebody, thank the contributors to that article.
@@TraTrancand there were literally three nuclear attacks near the border with Ireland, enough to devastate the part of the country close to the border (and that is because Ireland is not a target of the USSR, imagine if that were the case it would literally be the UK but 1000 worse and almost no chance of survival (like, if the UK collapsed even with a strong and prepared government and military forces, imagine Ireland) In short, in a nuclear war there are no winners and everyone suffers, especially small and unprepared countries like Ireland (and I don't hate the Irish people for God's sake I even wrote this in another comment here if the comment doesn't appear blame RUclips for literally be snowflakes and be Twitter before and even after elon musk bought the social network)
@@TraTrancand besides there were three nuclear attacks near the border with Ireland, that was enough to destroy that part of the country, imagine if the USSR considered Ireland a legitimate target, it would be UK 2.0 but 1000 worse and with almost no chance of survival
Lucky for us winds would blow northwest. We also have an agricultural surplus. So we'd bed ok IF there wasn't so many warheads gone off that sunlight had trouble getting through. In that scenario animals can't graze crops can't grow and werein big trouble
5:37 - The thing about the scale of the Nuclear attack in _Threads_ which is perhaps the most unsettling of all is the sheer effort to which the USSR ensures complete and total destruction of the civilian population. While many nuclear war scenarios of this era showcase the attacking force targeting cities known to host military infrastructure, here there are scarcely any large settlements which aren’t obliterated, including those with no strategic role or purpose whatsoever. This attack wasn’t just about neutralising an enemy, but inflicting as much cruelty, terror and suffering as possible.
The United States has the same exact tactics bro lmao It's "Secondary Value" targets, such as population centers, farmland, industry in cities, and so on. Every nuclear armed state has it in their doctrine.
This was great. I had empathy for the leadership because many games I played had you in similar roles. Banished is the most famous where food supply was as reliable as a weak thread (no pun intended).
There's strategy games where you play as a country fighting WW3, or survivors after the apocalypse, that feature the same theme. DEFCON and Frostpunk come to mind.
How old are you? I would be interested to know how kids and young adults born after the Cold War react to Threads. The movie has no CGI and it deals with an era that ended 30 years ago, so I wonder if it still has an impact.
The Cold War wasn't pushed. That was around 90-93, so we were in the Desert Storm and Panama phases, where we were pushing on past the Glasnost days and remerging former Soviet countries. Serbia was kicking off, and we had Central America and Somalia to worry about... That's one of the reasons why the Leftists grabbed as deep a foothold in Western society as they have.
I watched movies from the 50s in the 80s and 90s, they were old fashioned but the stories were fun. There's still dated stuff that I love, so I can see what the younger gens could see in this. Also the bomb effects from both movies look bad, Threads is actually the worst with people who should have been flashblinded, etc. It's actually the impact of the movies that are effective. They're very effective. I can see anyone curious about nukes watching them. There needs to be a modern version though since the lead up to the nukes is dated now. I hope if they do, they learn from the older movies for effectiveness and they've no excuse for no realism with bomb attacks.
I'm 21 and watched threads when i was about 19 after finding it online, with the way the world is at the moment id say its still a pretty relevant movie and important to see
@@RaccoonKCD why is it important to see? So you can scare yourself? I’m your age, realistically if a nuclear war broke out what difference would this movie make? None at all.
As an 18 year old I still love the film as I don't mind special and enjoy practical effects. I think it still remains a fairly penitent film even for ppl my agein 2024. Doubly so as it's set we're live
I live in Sheffield and it really added something to the sense of terror and dread hearing the names of areas I know well (and live in!) being reeled off after the bombs hit and they're trying to work out who can be saved.
"There was a reason all this happened. Some terrible misunderstanding, or a game of chicken pushed too far, or a war so biblical and destructive, so awesome and so terrible in scope that those fighting it had no choice. Those reasons are gone now, as are the nations who cared for them, the leaders who made the fatal decision, and the poor people who could do nothing but watch the world die. It's all been blown away, taking billions of lives and stories with it. Some yet still live, clinging on to life in quiet desperation, slowly pulling coherence and knowledge from the muck. If they are lucky, they may yet live to make the same mistake again, someday."
Jimmy is never seen actually being killed. His fate is unknown. I always wondered if the old man in the bed next to Jane at the end of the movie was not Jimmy.
Dude that's just dark! Jane had the first Mutant Child due to exposure of radiation. You people might wanna look under your beds tonight for a mutant kryptid ... Jane's child.
@@dagon_hydrA I think they meant the intro theme, but anyway. That was the fallout 4 theme, 3 has a much more metalic sound (with the notable BUMP occasionally)
Recent studies have estimated that an all-out nuclear exchange would kill "only" about 400 million directly. (Remember that the US and Russia have placed most of their nuclear warheads in storage since the end of the cold war). However, that represents only 10% of those who would die in the following two years. Most of that would be from starvation: it would not be possible to plant during the following northern hemisphere spring since fuel, seed and fertilizer could not be produced or distributed to the necessary areas. The amount of dust thrown into the air would cause significant global cooling for a few years, meaning any crops that could somehow be planted would not grow well in the areas they did before the exchange. Stocks of preserved foods will have been exhausted by then. So while Threads and The Day After focus on people being incinerated in nuclear blasts, the vast majority of deaths would occur slowly over many months as something like half the world's population succumbs to hunger and cold.
If man destroyed him selfs in nuclear war. It should read on its tomb stone. Here's lyes the ruins of man and his civilization. That he destroyed by his own hands and weapons he created. Because mankind failed to learn from his own past and mistakes.
@@megalodonfilms5148 My interpretation is that local councils and governments in the UK become their own sort of fiefs like from feudal times, as the central government is powerless to handle the situation. So the UK still exists on paper, but in reality it's a feudal system of local counties desperately trying to manage the situation in any way they can.
@chasehedges6775 So realistic you'd think the real thing would happen. After watching it the first time, I just didn't know if I'd watch it again. But I did see it again recently, and it had the same impact on me now as it did then.
I was much too young to watch this when it was on originally, but have watched it a couple of times as an adult. Very well done, absolutely chilling. We're really relying on M.A.D to stop this from happening.
It was someting I saw as a child in the 1980s... it was something i saw which I remember everyone was talking about, as it was so scary. It left such a mark on me that 40 years later I often re-watch it especially now that there is increased tension in th world.
I'd argue that there would have been more detonations in East Anglia, at the time there were a number of RAF and USAF airbases still operational there.
@@Eshanas only the food would change.. we'd still have our current huge influx of refugees right? 😆 Serious note, most of the food we grow is exported. So I'm sure things would be different and much tougher but we'd balance out but with a much meat heavier diet and back to spuds three times a day. 🥔
but Ireland would probably suffer from the radiation carried by the winds and the British refugees wanting to enter the country and famine because there was nuclear winter at a global level and the crops would die or not even grow(or worse, Ireland could also be targets of nuclear attacks, of the USSR like Austria and Switzerland because even though they are neutral they also have great ties with the European Union (which also has military protocols) and with NATO, being neutral does not mean that you will not be attacked by a military power ( the second world war is an example) so the unification of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (if it is not attacked and still exists and can withstand the refugees, the radiation being carried by the winds and the lack of crops) will not be worth a lot of things for the country, this territorial gain, would only cause more problems for Ireland than helping the only ones who would love this unification would be the IRA but I highly doubt that they still exist in this universe because if not even a powerful and centralized group like the UK couldn't handle it, just imagine a paramilitary group that is considered a terrorist group by both countries
This isn't the 40th anniversary. That was last year. Not only are the dates given, but we also know the days of the week. For example, May 5 was a Thursday. May 5 -- Thursday May 6 -- Friday May 7 -- Saturday MAY 8 -- SUNDAY I WAS BORN ON SUNDAY, MAY 8, 1983. Since May 8 was a Sunday, this HAS to be set in 1983, not 1984.
This is a useful addition to Threads, but it would be better if it wasn’t full of spelling, grammar, and military mistakes. They’re on almost every slide. For example, there is no US “10th Airborne Division” - the US Army’s rapid response force in that period was the 82nd Airborne division. Nuclear missile warheads were causing the damage in Britain, not “bombs”. Cleaning up these distractions would make the timeline more useful.
Thank you. I'm not entirely sure which spelling mistakes your talking about since I put the script of the video through many editing softwares to catch mistakes. When it comes to airborne divisions, I was using the information used in the movie so if they got something wrong I might have put it in by accident. Though I may have made some errors myself as well.
@@megalodonfilms5148 Sorry I appreciate the effort you've put into this but you haven't spelt invasion or Britain correctly for starters. "Invastion" & "Britian". It was the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) btw.
Awesome, but I feel the map needs more explanation on the meaning of the colours and boundary lines. I think I get what you were trying to do. Keep it up! 👍
As far as I know every computer has some kind of spell check on it yet you couldn't be bothered to use one. Hell even the title screen has a misspelling!
One would have thought humans had learned something of the last century, but the way the 3rd millennium started crushes that hope. Greed and lust for power, enhanced by ever increasing stupidity, will destroy us after all.
I saw the movie in 2017, and it still makes me dreading about what might happen if a nuclear war broke out (consider the 2017 North Korean nuclear test). I was 17 years old then, and I can't forget it. Of course, nuclear war in fictional media is nothing new, and this nonsense will take me to a whole other level. Not to mention the film's fucking ending, which is essentially quiet. There's no music. The sound of the wind makes you understand that humankind in the picture is completely gone!
Essentially the BBC's answer to ABC's "The Day After," which played the year prior. I have to say, the captions in "Threads" gave a bit more of a scary prelude to the climax than the background news sound bytes used in "The Day After"; but for the respective climaxes, I prefer the older one's scene. Some argue that the worst feeling is to be suddenly fried by an exploding nuke. I disagree. Being in close proximity to a missile base and seeing multiple plumes of exhaust smoke rising fast into the sky, knowing exactly what that means and knowing you are helpless to stop what is coming, which you can predict within 10 to 30 minutes...that has to be the worst feeling. But both movies had their terrifying appeal to me, having me (and others of my generation, I'm sure) wondering what the world would be like when we were 30, and whether we'd still be around to see 30. So glad the Cold War is all over now. 😝
The stark hopelessness of Threads, plus its lower budget "documentary" feel, made "The Day After" feel like a walk in the park. "The Day After" was unsettling, but "Threads" literally kept me up at night. 40 years later it still upsets me.
Ireland would be neutral and would be unlikely to be subjected to direct nuclear strikes by the USSR, but it would definitely still suffer from nuclear winter and lawlessness. It is nowhere near as bad as mainland Europe or the UK though.
What is the significance of the changing colours on the map? There is a reason I suppose, but a key would be useful. Also, it would help if the slides changed a little more slowly, especially on the text heavy ones? Interesting video nevertheless. I just wish they'd show the film again. Saw it when it was first broadcast. Scariest thing I've ever seen!
It's representing the collapse of central authority in Britain, the Netherlands, and Belgium. The pink returning is reflecting the return of authority, which in the film is implied to be an authoritarian dictatorship. Your guess is as good as mine about the new boundaries and the fact there's no such recoloring in mainland Europe.
I appreciate your hard work, nevertheless you got one detail wrong: according to the film, the nuclear attack happened on Thursday May 26. On 1984 that day was Saturday. So you should subtract one year from your chronology.
There is talk about how to go about that year's harvest in Kansas for "The Day After", but yes, that movie focused on seemingly just that year of the nuclear conflict.
Well in the actual novel of 1984, it explains that a nuclear bomb was dropped on Colchester and that a major event happened in Winston's childhood which led to his fear of rats and in which the Party took control of the UK. Although its not directly mentioned, one can infer that a nuclear war in 1984 began in the late 1940s or early 1950s that either was the first or final shots of a global World War Three. It also makes sense considering how the territories of the superstates are composed, the USSR overran mainland Europe and then launched invasions into the European colonies in Africa and the Middle East, forming Eurasia. In response, the British Empire, Dominions and United States merged into one nation and then seized control of the rest of the America's which the US already had significant influence over. The novel also mention that there where street fighting between the Party and other forces, which also infers that Oceania wasn't initially totalitarian, but perhaps was ran as a liberal democracy until the Ingsoc Party took control following a Civil War or Coup De'tat. The book also mentions that Eastasia came into existence later than Oceania and Eurasia, which also makes sense in the premise of a World War Three in which the People's Republic of China is initially neutral in, but later seizes Korea, Japan and Indochina to form Eurasia. The War in 1984 is merely a continuation of the World War Three that began decades earlier.
Struggling to understand what the map colours mean. Also the actress who played James died quite young I believe. Jimmy’s sister who delivered papers on her bike is Jane Hazlegrove who now plays Bernie in Coronation Street.
I can't tell if the inhabitants of Blackpool are lucky in this timeline (since it is one of the few major towns not hit by a strike or particularly) or unlucky (since being intact it will inevitably be swamped by refugees from more devastated areas, is probably under draconian military/police control from the start and will obviously suffer the same as everyone from fallout, shortages and disease.)
Blackpool would have suffered from is proximity to; Manchester, Liverpool, Barrow in Furness, Crewe, and BaE Wharton, so it would have had a pretty crap time, all in all..........
Hopefully we are not heading towards this in 2024 due to a conflict over which country owns the the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. To keep pushing a war with a nation controlling many nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them is very dangerous. There is little to no talk of escalation and what will happen if the conflict expands after the first American soldier is killed.
Many people think that this can't happen anymore. That we're all more enlightened... But to quote Alfred from Batman: 'Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.' Treat everyday as though it's your last and max it out. Some asshole could quite literally end it in a flash.
This is a very informative video on the events that occurred in the movie. "The Day After" was pretty scary, but "Threads" was more realistic when it came to what could happen before, during and after a nuclear war. Nice job.
I have one big question that ive struggled to find answers to with threads: Is the government ACTUALLY destroyed? One moment the film claims it collapses by year 4, but the next, there's still police, nurses, and even coal mining, by year 10.
i assume the council is replaced by some high ranking military figure, seeing it logically makes sense the people with the guns and most food would be top of the higherarchy
Chances are the government were evacuated during the last few hours to one of the control bunkers, assuming they got out of London in time, but would quickly have been obsolete. Who are you going to listen to - Thatcher, eighty miles away underground waiting for food and water to run out, or the traffic warden with the gun right next to you?
I remember recently, there was a story on some Excavated mine somewhere in the UK, which was meant to act as a huge COG bunker for the Royal family and UK leaders, housing 4000 personnel.
My interpretation is that local councils and governments become sort of like fiefdoms from feudal times, with the UK still existing on paper, but in reality local counties are the only polities with power, desperately trying to manage the situation as the central government is powerless. After a few decades, I think the UK government would gradually start to be rebuilt
Very nice :) Didn't think that many nukes were actually aimed at the UK (and not Holland in the corner!) in this scenario, especially due to the high altitude one.
For the video I used the UK’s 180 nuke scenario published by the government in the 1970s. While the movie Threads used a slightly different nuclear attack scenario for its movie, I used the one with publicly available data, which is pretty close to the one used in the film.
@@megalodonfilms5148 thought it might be that :) It does show the local bases so could very well be possible that was applied just not represented in the show as they move to concentrate on Sheffield
Poor Britian! May 26, 1984 - 08:06 Police and Firefighters deployed That doesn't sound correct though. If I remember correctly, they moved the firefighting equipment out of the city to prevent them from being destroyed.
The way the film presents days up until a few weeks after the bombs drop indicates the bombs dropped in 1988, not 1984. That also means the end of the film takes place in 2001, not 1998.
Luton area was struck by three nuclear weapons, and fires go on for weeks. Estimates of damage put around £120.
Welcome to luton
It looks as though Scunthorpe was nuked, significantly improving local property prices and quality of life.
I mean it wouldn't look any different
To quote Del Boy from Only Fools and Horses: 'Sod, Luton!'
It took out WHSmith, but the pens stock remained intact.
In the Threads universe, today marks 40 years since the nuclear bomb has been dropped in Sheffield.
From Sheffield misen, place is still a shithole
Heckin wholesome comment, heres your reddit gold sir.
40 years eh? You'd think they might've rebuilt by now. Lazy kunts.
I guess the radiation fallout is a bit lower now
40 years eh? You'd think they'd have rebuilt it by now, lazy gits.
I love how at the beginning, there’s text like
“Ruth and her family meet Jimmy’s family”
Right next to
“THE USS LOS ANGELES IS LOST OFF THE IRANIAN COAST”
It’s like flicking between a romance channel and a military warfare channel
Whilst the first half of this docu drama does deal with the central characters, what is in the background and eventually takes over is the unfolding world events that lead to the nuclear strike on Sheffield/England.
It demonstrates, if nothing else, how uprapaired Britain was in the early 80's and to an extent we are now.
There was by invitation large amounts of U.S. personnel and their hardware, which included nuclear weapons, including B52 bombers all over the UK at strategic places. The Americans remained in Britain for many years it was only until recently they left and went home.
This is absolutely terrifying insight into what could possibly happen to the UK and the world at large if there was a thermonuclear exchange.
@@chrisholland7367 Well yeah, that’s true, but
funni contrast
@@chrisholland7367 Why would there be B52s in Britain when we had our own V-bomber fleet then afterwards sub launched ICBMs?
@Ruddyscheeseemporium because during 80's Margaret Thatcher allowed a lot of US military hardware into Britain. That included nuclear weapons and the means to ensure they reached their targets. The flying time would have been shorter from joint US/UK Air Force basses.
Look up Greenham Common air base it was the focus of mass protests against American W.M .D s .
@@Ruddyscheeseemporium Allies and well, being NATO members in general
I felt sorry for the council when they got entombed by their own town hall.
Hard cheese lads
Ironically the real Sheffield town hall was destroyed and pulled down by the local government just a few years after building it. So they destroyed it before any real attack did!
They used to waste material to fill in an under-pass road system they’d built 20 years or so before which was also deemed not needed despite rising traffic levels!
The councils will have all the luxuries and supplies they need under the town hall. It will be like living at work in a way.....the polar opposite of WFH during Covid .
@@steveroberts9453home from work!? Will never catch on 😂
If only they had hard cheese! At least they could have eaten it ffs😂😂😂
that's the thing people don't consider. You may have supplies in your bunker, but if debris prevents you from leaving, food runs out, water runs out, and if anyone gets sick, you are breathing that air.
I was around Jimmy's age in 1984 I'm 63 now.. At that time I was working at a UK defence contractor now called Bae Systems in the NW Uk.. We all knew how close this was and that we were a "legitimate" target. The thing that pissed us off was that there was a nuclear bunker pretty dammed close to us but we would be shot trying to enter it. It was for Civil "dignitaries " and civil defence .. We always said if the bomb dropped and any of us survived ..We would hunt down the air ventilation system and block it off.. What use would those tossers be when they came out?? No engineers ,farmers tradesmen =No future .Always planning to safeguard the wrong people. Now I am having to feel concern for my Grandkids ,again because of a lunatic ffs
That’s literally treason. No wonder Russia thinks the west is so decadent. No one has national pride here. The Russians live in relative poverty compared to us and they’d happily die in droves for their nation and Putin
I wouldn't worry yourself Dave, this isn't the days of the union. One man wouldn't throw away everything that gives him his power, hence the phrase all bark and no bite.
I saw a movie recently, Rubikon; its a bit naff if I'd be honest, but I think you might enjoy the ending.
You had a good little earner out of the Cold War.
I lived near Ottawa Ontario, just up the road from the Diefenbunker. That thing would have been a prime target, and my then house except for the basement would have been blown to matchsticks.
The only thing I really disagree with is about human society being cast back only 'hundreds' of years. The reality is that hundreds and even a couple of thousand years ago society was complex and filled with an important mixture and balance of educated and highly skilled people.
We're really talking about transplanting unskilled survivors into a dangerous wasteland they don't understand.
Even the so-called Dark Ages would be a picnic in comparison.
EXACTLY!
I work as a lawncare service worker using a weed eater, an edger and blower. I might be able to work. If I’m still alive, of course.
Yeah. I agree.
@@chasehedges6775I doubt your services would be required in post-apocalypse world 🤭
@@jimbotron70 Maybe, maybe not but You never know….
The iconic traffic warden with the bandaged face is Michael Beesford.
Or it's Michael Beecroft.
@@jamiemcintosh3030 I believe he passed away in the last couple of months...
Always wondered who that guy was and how badly injured he was to wear a bandage like a mask like that.
@@stephenclouse4619 Just paint and cornflakes.
@@jamiemcintosh3030just read the bbc article. Guess that lays the rumour that it was Kenneth Branagh to rest.
Most depressing movie I have ever watched. Making this video would have been torture for me.
The Fallout music swept the blues away for me
Same
I never actually realised that the US was technically the aggressor in the war - I always thought the Russians invaded Iran for no reason. Then again, it doesn't really make any odds either way. The point is the war touches off for no good reason when you really boil it down.
Interesting
The US launched it coup to end the Islamic regime. And became a bloody world war.
it makes sense considering the US' foreign policy historically - at least in my opinion the reason China adopted MAD was because the Americans were seen to be the ones that would strike first in the majority of cases.
The US would never be the aggressor. We have much more to lose in a nuclear war. We’re already the wealthiest and most powerful and influential country in human history. We have global hegemony. Why would we want a nuclear war
Avoiding nuclear war is why the US hasn’t done for Ukraine what we did for Kuwait in 1991. In a conventional war we’d steamroll Russia in similar fashion to the Gulf War. But nuclear fear mongering keeps us from liberating Ukraine
@@tylerclayton6081 the US is the aggressor in Ukraine. It literally installed a pro-US, pro-EU and pro-Nato government on russia's doorstep
Pure coincidence that it is set in 1984.
That's when it was screened. A year earlier the Americans produced their own version called The Day After. It should be remembered this was a pretty Febrile time, with the USSR going through a succession of leaders after Brezhnev died, with Andropov and Chernenko both dying after short periods in charge before Gorbachev emerged in 1986. We now know that only a Russian missile monitoring station commander judging an apparent missile launch by the US as a false alarm prevented a Soviet 'retaliatory' stroke in 1983. Those were pretty scary days.
literally 1984
I think I saw an argument once that it's set in 1988. The dates given line up with that year.
The early 80's was the height of the cold war.
@@FrederikOlsenYeah, I read that recently, too.
I think I still have PTSD from watching this in 1984 😬 lol. I moved into the inner city in 1985 specifically because I figured if things really kicked off I'd "go up in the first flash" lol
And just as a friendly FYI, it's 'Pact' and not 'Pack
The entire video is riddled with spelling mistakes, even the same words are repeatedly spelled incorrectly. The proofreaders died in the blasts presumably.
It's made by a kid, and I think he did really really well.
@@Lysimachus There's a reference late in the timeline to people speaking a "broken down" form of English. They were just trying to be authentic.
Same here. I had trouble sleeping for weeks after watching the original USA broadcast. At the height of the Cold War this scenario was horribly plausible, the most frightening and realistic horror movie ever. Watching this video stirred up some of that anxiety for me.
@@Lysimachus also buddy almost word for word copied the plot summary given on Wikipedia. That information being filtered through him ended up being garbled nonsense.
Threads, and The Day After.
Those movies were the reason why I walk around town with a Mohawk, Shoulder pads, and Assless pants.
Relatable. Ever since i saw Mad Max 2 I dress like humongous
Stop blaming these movies for why you walk around like you got m*lested
That's hot
I don’t need an excuse to walk around in assless pants, shoulder pads, and a Mohawk - it’s just a good time waiting to happen
Planet Of The Apes has entered the room.
“YOU MANIACS! You BLEW IT UP!
Would love an expanded universe for Threads, basically the British equivalent of Fallout, STALKER etc.
💯💯
Agreed
I know that the Fallout London mod has taken some inspiration from threads obviously with it being one of our only good nuclear apocalypse movies. Probably the closest were gonna get lol
Fallout London would be a good idea for a film, IMO
It's not really comparable IMO. Those other two are fantasy compared to Threads.
My parents were just a few years younger than jimmy and Ruth would have been at the time this film was made.
For some reason I picture my own family at the time and how they would have dealt with this situation, which makes it considerably more haunting than it otherwise is while viewing it on a personal level.
Threads Is truly the most disturbing film I have ever seen and I don’t think that anything will ever surpass it
I'm old enough to have watched this in school in the UK as a teeanger, and it scared me s**tless, which after all was it's job. I had nightmares about being in my bedroom and hearing a siren, and the last thing I'd see was a flash of light and heat.
Not just me then. I first saw it in my teens in the mid 90s, we watched it at a cadet training night. My bed faced the east facing bedroom window and was summer. Every morning I'd wake up shitting myself at the bright sunrise lol
I remember watching “Threads” here in the US back in 1984. The hospital scene still gives me nightmares. The most horrifying scene I’ve ever seen in any film.
I know I’m not the only one curious as to what the UK (or what was the UK) and the rest of the world would be like 40 years after the attacks. They should make a sequel or something.
💯💯👍👍
The whole film is a nightmare
You should see the "banned" (at the time) predecessor to Threads, whose name I've now cleverly forgotten (should be easy to find, though). Being in black and white doesn't reduce the impact one bit.
@@michaelmartin9022 Would that be 'The War Game'?
@@rogueriderhood1862 Ah yes, that was it
really nice touch on the governments disintegrating with the echoing out of the song, like the fallout video
Hello, I commented on this video a few weeks ago but I believe there was a glitch and my comment disappeared. I'm here to thank you for making this video, the small fanbase dedicated to Threads over on reddit, discord, and facebook are very grateful. We were going to make a similar video, but oh well, you beat us to it! Good luck with the channel!
He copied the plot summary from Wikipedia and then butchered it horrendously. This is not a good video by any metric and there’s nothing here that one couldn’t find on Wikipedia, in the same firm only minus all the basic spelling errors. If you want to thank somebody, thank the contributors to that article.
@alcoholic1638 We will review this claim. Thanks for bringing it to light!
"Human civilization is sent back centuries"
Ireland:Am i a joke to you?
Even if not directly hit, it would suffer the effects of electro-magnetic pulse from nuclear detonations in Britain and from the fallout.
@@TraTrancand there were literally three nuclear attacks near the border with Ireland, enough to devastate the part of the country close to the border (and that is because Ireland is not a target of the USSR, imagine if that were the case it would literally be the UK but 1000 worse and almost no chance of survival (like, if the UK collapsed even with a strong and prepared government and military forces, imagine Ireland) In short, in a nuclear war there are no winners and everyone suffers, especially small and unprepared countries like Ireland (and I don't hate the Irish people for God's sake I even wrote this in another comment here if the comment doesn't appear blame RUclips for literally be snowflakes and be Twitter before and even after elon musk bought the social network)
@@TraTrancand besides there were three nuclear attacks near the border with Ireland, that was enough to destroy that part of the country, imagine if the USSR considered Ireland a legitimate target, it would be UK 2.0 but 1000 worse and with almost no chance of survival
YES.
South America...
Great music. What is it
Nobody:
Europe: 💀
Ireland after WWIII:🔥This is fine. 🔥
I💚R🤍A🧡 i will survive i will survive yeah yeah🎵🎵
Switzerland after WWIII: "Where did everybody go?"
8:53
Oh look, Ireland cheekily reunifies the North while the rest of the world is busy with the apocalypse
Lucky for us winds would blow northwest. We also have an agricultural surplus. So we'd bed ok IF there wasn't so many warheads gone off that sunlight had trouble getting through.
In that scenario animals can't graze crops can't grow and werein big trouble
@@dinahwhite3929Okay Gerry ❤️
5:37 - The thing about the scale of the Nuclear attack in _Threads_ which is perhaps the most unsettling of all is the sheer effort to which the USSR ensures complete and total destruction of the civilian population. While many nuclear war scenarios of this era showcase the attacking force targeting cities known to host military infrastructure, here there are scarcely any large settlements which aren’t obliterated, including those with no strategic role or purpose whatsoever. This attack wasn’t just about neutralising an enemy, but inflicting as much cruelty, terror and suffering as possible.
That's what's known as a "counter value" strike in nuclear doctrine.
The United States has the same exact tactics bro lmao
It's "Secondary Value" targets, such as population centers, farmland, industry in cities, and so on.
Every nuclear armed state has it in their doctrine.
@wheelcha1rman2
Indeed, it seems these scenarios portrayed start with "counter force", but devolve into "counter value".
This was great. I had empathy for the leadership because many games I played had you in similar roles. Banished is the most famous where food supply was as reliable as a weak thread (no pun intended).
There's strategy games where you play as a country fighting WW3, or survivors after the apocalypse, that feature the same theme. DEFCON and Frostpunk come to mind.
This is a really good depiction of what happened in the movie. Thanks for posting this!
Love threads. Its so surreal to watch as well as its one of the few films set were i grew up so its fun to watch spots i recognise
How old are you? I would be interested to know how kids and young adults born after the Cold War react to Threads. The movie has no CGI and it deals with an era that ended 30 years ago, so I wonder if it still has an impact.
The Cold War wasn't pushed. That was around 90-93, so we were in the Desert Storm and Panama phases, where we were pushing on past the Glasnost days and remerging former Soviet countries.
Serbia was kicking off, and we had Central America and Somalia to worry about...
That's one of the reasons why the Leftists grabbed as deep a foothold in Western society as they have.
I watched movies from the 50s in the 80s and 90s, they were old fashioned but the stories were fun. There's still dated stuff that I love, so I can see what the younger gens could see in this. Also the bomb effects from both movies look bad, Threads is actually the worst with people who should have been flashblinded, etc. It's actually the impact of the movies that are effective. They're very effective. I can see anyone curious about nukes watching them. There needs to be a modern version though since the lead up to the nukes is dated now. I hope if they do, they learn from the older movies for effectiveness and they've no excuse for no realism with bomb attacks.
I'm 21 and watched threads when i was about 19 after finding it online, with the way the world is at the moment id say its still a pretty relevant movie and important to see
@@RaccoonKCD why is it important to see? So you can scare yourself? I’m your age, realistically if a nuclear war broke out what difference would this movie make? None at all.
As an 18 year old I still love the film as I don't mind special and enjoy practical effects.
I think it still remains a fairly penitent film even for ppl my agein 2024. Doubly so as it's set we're live
I live in Sheffield and it really added something to the sense of terror and dread hearing the names of areas I know well (and live in!) being reeled off after the bombs hit and they're trying to work out who can be saved.
The fallout 4 music is a nice touch
"There was a reason all this happened. Some terrible misunderstanding, or a game of chicken pushed too far, or a war so biblical and destructive, so awesome and so terrible in scope that those fighting it had no choice. Those reasons are gone now, as are the nations who cared for them, the leaders who made the fatal decision, and the poor people who could do nothing but watch the world die. It's all been blown away, taking billions of lives and stories with it. Some yet still live, clinging on to life in quiet desperation, slowly pulling coherence and knowledge from the muck. If they are lucky, they may yet live to make the same mistake again, someday."
💯💯. Exactly
The human race will return to the shadow of the night. And they will be live in it. Forever.
Threads(1984) isn’t just a movie. It isn’t just a documentary. It’s a book. Of book chronicling the End Of The Age Of Mankind.
When "Begin again" from "Dead Money" started, I had a chill.
(Sorry for my lack English)
Jimmy is never seen actually being killed. His fate is unknown. I always wondered if the old man in the bed next to Jane at the end of the movie was not Jimmy.
I always thought that was the case, emphasising the point that Jane and Jimmy have no idea they are father and daughter.
Mick Jackson has definitively stated that the old man at the end is NOT Jimmy.
I always thought his parents found his body mostly buried when attempting to find water not long after the blasts, they see recognise him by his shoes
@@caifrootz2537 That was Jimmy's little brother, who plays the video game in the beginning
Watching this on the 40th anniversary.
Thanks.
Dude that's just dark! Jane had the first Mutant Child due to exposure of radiation. You people might wanna look under your beds tonight for a mutant kryptid ... Jane's child.
craziest fucking intro for this WHAT
I like how Blackpool and Dublin don't get hit by nukes, but rather bear the brunt of the nuclear fallout
Honestly, the Sierra Madre "Begin again" theme is incredibly haunting and fitting here.
*this youtube intro totaly best classic 2010s youtuber. :-')
The opening music is worse than a nuclear apocalypse.
Fallout 3 theme
@@dagon_hydrA I think they meant the intro theme, but anyway. That was the fallout 4 theme, 3 has a much more metalic sound (with the notable BUMP occasionally)
Recent studies have estimated that an all-out nuclear exchange would kill "only" about 400 million directly. (Remember that the US and Russia have placed most of their nuclear warheads in storage since the end of the cold war). However, that represents only 10% of those who would die in the following two years. Most of that would be from starvation: it would not be possible to plant during the following northern hemisphere spring since fuel, seed and fertilizer could not be produced or distributed to the necessary areas. The amount of dust thrown into the air would cause significant global cooling for a few years, meaning any crops that could somehow be planted would not grow well in the areas they did before the exchange. Stocks of preserved foods will have been exhausted by then. So while Threads and The Day After focus on people being incinerated in nuclear blasts, the vast majority of deaths would occur slowly over many months as something like half the world's population succumbs to hunger and cold.
Also to epidemics.
Threads is by far the scariest film ever made. Thanks for putting this together - but you need a spellchecker 😋😋
What do the borders within Britian mean? Are those reclaimed areas of the central government or independent rump states?
Independent states. The British government doesn't exist anymore and the whole era has become decentralized city states or lordships.
@@megalodonfilms5148 alright thanks man
If man destroyed him selfs in nuclear war. It should read on its tomb stone. Here's lyes the ruins of man and his civilization. That he destroyed by his own hands and weapons he created. Because mankind failed to learn from his own past and mistakes.
@@megalodonfilms5148 no no, it's that the government decides to divide itself in order to be more manageable. It's in BBC TV documentaries from 1983
@@megalodonfilms5148 My interpretation is that local councils and governments in the UK become their own sort of fiefs like from feudal times, as the central government is powerless to handle the situation. So the UK still exists on paper, but in reality it's a feudal system of local counties desperately trying to manage the situation in any way they can.
And it's still the scariest film I ever saw.
It’s one of the scariest and most realistic horror films ever made.
@chasehedges6775 So realistic you'd think the real thing would happen. After watching it the first time, I just didn't know if I'd watch it again. But I did see it again recently, and it had the same impact on me now as it did then.
I was much too young to watch this when it was on originally, but have watched it a couple of times as an adult. Very well done, absolutely chilling. We're really relying on M.A.D to stop this from happening.
The best way is to stop the politicians.
I thank you so Fkng much for this, this Movie REALLY gave me the chills, as an Argentinian, I can't imagine what english people felt at the Time.
It was someting I saw as a child in the 1980s... it was something i saw which I remember everyone was talking about, as it was so scary. It left such a mark on me that 40 years later I often re-watch it especially now that there is increased tension in th world.
I'd argue that there would have been more detonations in East Anglia, at the time there were a number of RAF and USAF airbases still operational there.
Meanwhile im sitting in ireland drinking tea, not noticing anything different with the lack of sun
80s Ireland could take it, though there would be a huge influx of refugees. Now? As a food importer? There will be a dieoff....
@@Eshanas only the food would change.. we'd still have our current huge influx of refugees right? 😆
Serious note, most of the food we grow is exported. So I'm sure things would be different and much tougher but we'd balance out but with a much meat heavier diet and back to spuds three times a day. 🥔
Who the hell puts milk in first when having cereal
0:14
While playing such ridiculous music, no less. 🤪
A mad lad, that's who.
out of context: "Jimmy and Ruth buy a new apartment; the Soviet Union protests."
Brilliant video well done 👏 what's the ost fall new vagas soundtrack called from 9.38 it really sets the tone for this scenario.
SPOILER: Jimmy survived the attack and can be seen in last scene.
Very funny. I've seen the last scene.
@@RW-nr6bh He does appear in that scene, as does Jane, with both unaware that they are father and daughter.
These events happened for real in some alternate timeline.
Plus I forgot that threads can be seen as a prequel to a book called Riddley walker.
Edit: spelling.
Intro : some cool dubstep music with a kid in the background
The video : the death and
"""""rebirth"""""of civilization on england.
january 1987..ireland goes completely green and is re united :)....see?..not all bad...
blackpool and southend on the sea still standing
🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃
but Ireland would probably suffer from the radiation carried by the winds and the British refugees wanting to enter the country and famine because there was nuclear winter at a global level and the crops would die or not even grow(or worse, Ireland could also be targets of nuclear attacks, of the USSR like Austria and Switzerland because even though they are neutral they also have great ties with the European Union (which also has military protocols) and with NATO, being neutral does not mean that you will not be attacked by a military power ( the second world war is an example) so the unification of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (if it is not attacked and still exists and can withstand the refugees, the radiation being carried by the winds and the lack of crops) will not be worth a lot of things for the country, this territorial gain, would only cause more problems for Ireland than helping the only ones who would love this unification would be the IRA but I highly doubt that they still exist in this universe because if not even a powerful and centralized group like the UK couldn't handle it, just imagine a paramilitary group that is considered a terrorist group by both countries
@@federalinvestigationbureau5814 Another famine for Ireland, then. Is there any way they can blame the British?
Amidst massive starvation and disease.
Thank you very much! A very horrible scenario - but necessary as actual events tells us! Thanks again!❤🙏❤
This isn't the 40th anniversary. That was last year.
Not only are the dates given, but we also know the days of the week.
For example, May 5 was a Thursday.
May 5 -- Thursday
May 6 -- Friday
May 7 -- Saturday
MAY 8 -- SUNDAY
I WAS BORN ON SUNDAY, MAY 8, 1983.
Since May 8 was a Sunday, this HAS to be set in 1983, not 1984.
“Schools will remain open”
The spelling mistakes in this are unforgivable.
This is a useful addition to Threads, but it would be better if it wasn’t full of spelling, grammar, and military mistakes. They’re on almost every slide. For example, there is no US “10th Airborne Division” - the US Army’s rapid response force in that period was the 82nd Airborne division. Nuclear missile warheads were causing the damage in Britain, not “bombs”. Cleaning up these distractions would make the timeline more useful.
Thank you. I'm not entirely sure which spelling mistakes your talking about since I put the script of the video through many editing softwares to catch mistakes.
When it comes to airborne divisions, I was using the information used in the movie so if they got something wrong I might have put it in by accident. Though I may have made some errors myself as well.
@@megalodonfilms5148 thanks. If I have time I’ll try to get you something more detailed and specific.
@@megalodonfilms5148 Sorry I appreciate the effort you've put into this but you haven't spelt invasion or Britain correctly for starters. "Invastion" & "Britian". It was the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) btw.
@@Gingycat100 Yeah I saw that. Sorry. I have terrible grammar
@@megalodonfilms5148 The grammar doesn't affect the impact, lad. good effort and still grim.
Awesome, but I feel the map needs more explanation on the meaning of the colours and boundary lines. I think I get what you were trying to do.
Keep it up! 👍
Excellent video! Maybe this was answered somewhere already, but what is the significance of the changing colors & borders of Ireland, UK, and Europe?
I was wondering the same thing. No idea why there wasn’t a key to tell us what the change in colours meant.
It would be 1983, not 1984, if you match up the days with the dates. Thursday 26 May was in 1983, not 1984.
@@Euskalherria21 Yeah I realized that mistake later.
James Cameron made the same mistake when he made the Terminator. Thursday, May 12th, 1984 the day Kyle Reese arrives was actually a Saturday.
All world leaders should be made to watch Threads.
💯💯. Definitely
Stoke on trent gets hit by a nuclear missile... Nobody notices any difference.
Grimsby gets hit... looks better afterward
That feeling when you realise you are *exactly* the same age as Jane.
💯💯
I'm 23. And the actress died in a car accident at 21 back in 1990. Just tragic
@chasehedges6775 Yep, I was born in November 1984.
May 2001, for me.
As far as I know every computer has some kind of spell check on it yet you couldn't be bothered to use one. Hell even the title screen has a misspelling!
Neat detail: you can see in the video, that Ireland steamrolls Northern Ireland
Grim! Just as dark as the movie! Let’s hope that timeline never becomes a reality!
Soooo true💯
"I don't know what weapons will be used to fight World War 3, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and rocks."
Einstein.
👍👍. Einstein was on the ball.
What a sad way to end the 2nd millennium.
Brexit? 😅
@@KeithRingoyeah Brexit out of existence
One would have thought humans had learned something of the last century, but the way the 3rd millennium started crushes that hope. Greed and lust for power, enhanced by ever increasing stupidity, will destroy us after all.
What app or program did you use to make these maps?
I saw the movie in 2017, and it still makes me dreading about what might happen if a nuclear war broke out (consider the 2017 North Korean nuclear test). I was 17 years old then, and I can't forget it. Of course, nuclear war in fictional media is nothing new, and this nonsense will take me to a whole other level. Not to mention the film's fucking ending, which is essentially quiet. There's no music. The sound of the wind makes you understand that humankind in the picture is completely gone!
Essentially the BBC's answer to ABC's "The Day After," which played the year prior. I have to say, the captions in "Threads" gave a bit more of a scary prelude to the climax than the background news sound bytes used in "The Day After"; but for the respective climaxes, I prefer the older one's scene. Some argue that the worst feeling is to be suddenly fried by an exploding nuke. I disagree. Being in close proximity to a missile base and seeing multiple plumes of exhaust smoke rising fast into the sky, knowing exactly what that means and knowing you are helpless to stop what is coming, which you can predict within 10 to 30 minutes...that has to be the worst feeling.
But both movies had their terrifying appeal to me, having me (and others of my generation, I'm sure) wondering what the world would be like when we were 30, and whether we'd still be around to see 30. So glad the Cold War is all over now.
😝
But Biden, Putin and Jinping have a cold war mentality and resurrected it.
The stark hopelessness of Threads, plus its lower budget "documentary" feel, made "The Day After" feel like a walk in the park. "The Day After" was unsettling, but "Threads" literally kept me up at night. 40 years later it still upsets me.
A large scale nuclear war is more likely in 2024 than at any time since the end of the Cold War- just FYI
this vid got me to watch the film, what a film man
Such a masterpiece
Some lucky people moved to Ireland because it seemingly survived.
💯💯
Ireland would be neutral and would be unlikely to be subjected to direct nuclear strikes by the USSR, but it would definitely still suffer from nuclear winter and lawlessness. It is nowhere near as bad as mainland Europe or the UK though.
@@theorangeoof926 Good points
@@theorangeoof926 Let’s face it, nobody wins in this situation.
@@chasehedges6775 true
but in this scenario I'd try and get to ireland
What is the significance of the changing colours on the map? There is a reason I suppose, but a key would be useful.
Also, it would help if the slides changed a little more slowly, especially on the text heavy ones?
Interesting video nevertheless. I just wish they'd show the film again. Saw it when it was first broadcast. Scariest thing I've ever seen!
It's representing the collapse of central authority in Britain, the Netherlands, and Belgium. The pink returning is reflecting the return of authority, which in the film is implied to be an authoritarian dictatorship.
Your guess is as good as mine about the new boundaries and the fact there's no such recoloring in mainland Europe.
The green is likely fallout & the yellow are the independent city states after Britain’s fall
Feel good movie of the century
I appreciate your hard work, nevertheless you got one detail wrong: according to the film, the nuclear attack happened on Thursday May 26. On 1984 that day was Saturday. So you should subtract one year from your chronology.
@@timoshenko1971 Yeah I didn’t realize that until later. That was my bad lol
@@megalodonfilms5148 don’t worry, it’s not the end of the world (pun intended 😛).
Now if you can do the same for The Day After. But it probably wasn't very long.
There is talk about how to go about that year's harvest in Kansas for "The Day After", but yes, that movie focused on seemingly just that year of the nuclear conflict.
I view threads as a prequel to 1984.
💯👍💯True
@@chasehedges6775 Yeah. Except the 21st century will be 1984.
Well in the actual novel of 1984, it explains that a nuclear bomb was dropped on Colchester and that a major event happened in Winston's childhood which led to his fear of rats and in which the Party took control of the UK. Although its not directly mentioned, one can infer that a nuclear war in 1984 began in the late 1940s or early 1950s that either was the first or final shots of a global World War Three. It also makes sense considering how the territories of the superstates are composed, the USSR overran mainland Europe and then launched invasions into the European colonies in Africa and the Middle East, forming Eurasia. In response, the British Empire, Dominions and United States merged into one nation and then seized control of the rest of the America's which the US already had significant influence over. The novel also mention that there where street fighting between the Party and other forces, which also infers that Oceania wasn't initially totalitarian, but perhaps was ran as a liberal democracy until the Ingsoc Party took control following a Civil War or Coup De'tat.
The book also mentions that Eastasia came into existence later than Oceania and Eurasia, which also makes sense in the premise of a World War Three in which the People's Republic of China is initially neutral in, but later seizes Korea, Japan and Indochina to form Eurasia. The War in 1984 is merely a continuation of the World War Three that began decades earlier.
@@samuelsstuffyt Yes. Also, how about the remaining independent nations?
Struggling to understand what the map colours mean.
Also the actress who played James died quite young I believe.
Jimmy’s sister who delivered papers on her bike is Jane Hazlegrove who now plays Bernie in Coronation Street.
Jane.
Yes she died in a car crash not long after the movie.
@@jimbotron70 She died in 1990.
I can't tell if the inhabitants of Blackpool are lucky in this timeline (since it is one of the few major towns not hit by a strike or particularly) or unlucky (since being intact it will inevitably be swamped by refugees from more devastated areas, is probably under draconian military/police control from the start and will obviously suffer the same as everyone from fallout, shortages and disease.)
The airport would have been a target I assume?
Blackpool would have suffered from is proximity to; Manchester, Liverpool, Barrow in Furness, Crewe, and BaE Wharton, so it would have had a pretty crap time, all in all..........
Hopefully we are not heading towards this in 2024 due to a conflict over which country owns the the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. To keep pushing a war with a nation controlling many nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them is very dangerous. There is little to no talk of escalation and what will happen if the conflict expands after the first American soldier is killed.
@@kdegraa You’re just describing my next movie right now lol
What do the colors mean?
Such a traumatic film, but for good reason.
One of the most frightening films I’ve seen.
Can't wait for the Disney version.
Sorry if sounding a bit thick but what are the colour codes on the maps
Many people think that this can't happen anymore. That we're all more enlightened...
But to quote Alfred from Batman: 'Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.'
Treat everyday as though it's your last and max it out. Some asshole could quite literally end it in a flash.
Watch the movie Wizards - the way the world ends in that movie is getting more and more plausible every day.
This is a very informative video on the events that occurred in the movie. "The Day After" was pretty scary, but "Threads" was more realistic when it came to what could happen before, during and after a nuclear war. Nice job.
Threads is soooo good
The scary part of this films is that any crisis now can escalate into nuclear weapons being used.
Pretty good work but your spelling and grammar skills need some improvement
What I think should be made
A war of the worlds timeline like this
I have one big question that ive struggled to find answers to with threads:
Is the government ACTUALLY destroyed? One moment the film claims it collapses by year 4, but the next, there's still police, nurses, and even coal mining, by year 10.
i assume the council is replaced by some high ranking military figure, seeing it logically makes sense the people with the guns and most food would be top of the higherarchy
Chances are the government were evacuated during the last few hours to one of the control bunkers, assuming they got out of London in time, but would quickly have been obsolete. Who are you going to listen to - Thatcher, eighty miles away underground waiting for food and water to run out, or the traffic warden with the gun right next to you?
I remember recently, there was a story on some Excavated mine somewhere in the UK, which was meant to act as a huge COG bunker for the Royal family and UK leaders, housing 4000 personnel.
No. Threads fan reporting
My interpretation is that local councils and governments become sort of like fiefdoms from feudal times, with the UK still existing on paper, but in reality local counties are the only polities with power, desperately trying to manage the situation as the central government is powerless.
After a few decades, I think the UK government would gradually start to be rebuilt
Very nice :)
Didn't think that many nukes were actually aimed at the UK (and not Holland in the corner!) in this scenario, especially due to the high altitude one.
For the video I used the UK’s 180 nuke scenario published by the government in the 1970s. While the movie Threads used a slightly different nuclear attack scenario for its movie, I used the one with publicly available data, which is pretty close to the one used in the film.
@@megalodonfilms5148 thought it might be that :)
It does show the local bases so could very well be possible that was applied just not represented in the show as they move to concentrate on Sheffield
Idols is a song I haven't heard since like 2018 lmao. fun seeing that
Why would we ever do this to ourselves?!
Threads is a fantastic film but I can never bare to watch it again due to how bleak and horrible it is.
Same
Poor Britian!
May 26, 1984 - 08:06 Police and Firefighters deployed
That doesn't sound correct though. If I remember correctly, they moved the firefighting equipment out of the city to prevent them from being destroyed.
Yes, that is their deployment, To be moved out of the central areas
Whoever typed this doesn't do words with the suffix 'tion'. Various other words are mispelled too.
Right? Despite all the work that obviously went into it, I gave it a "dislike" simply because of all the spelling errors.
Interesting video, though the text could do with a spellcheck + proofread -you misspelt "Warsaw Pact" as "Warsaw Pack", among other typos...
The way the film presents days up until a few weeks after the bombs drop indicates the bombs dropped in 1988, not 1984. That also means the end of the film takes place in 2001, not 1998.