Y'ALL! If you do this and find your perfect "red" PLEASE TAG ME on IG! I would love to repost them and have a highlight of the various shades that worked for y'all. Make sure you tell everyone what shade it is! ❤❤❤
I’m not on instagram but after your first contrast video I went on the hunt at Sephora and found NARS Aragon is my red lip! They make it in a lip shine (sort of balmy but more coverage) and a lip gloss. Both look stunning on me as red but look like… rusty chestnut brown in the bullet! ❤
Thank you for doing this! I have actually thought SO much about this over the years, because I try red lips (and bangs, unfortunately) about every five years, and I'm always disappointed. I'm not on insta (for my mentie healf), but my "red" is Charlotte Tilbury Walk of No Shame. I am a fairly light neutral olive, and I cannot wear a true red without it looking like a clown mouth that belongs to someone else. But darn it if Walk of No Shame doesn't read as red on me. I don't really like buying from CT, because she kind of annoys me, but I can't find another shade and formula that works better for me as an occasion lip. I have found other warmish roses, like Lisa Eldridge Enchantment, but too much opacity also isn't good on me. For some reason I have to have a tiny bit of my own lip coming through or, again, it looks like there are wax lips floating on my face.
Also, a pretty solid way to find a lipliner shade - any nifty tricks with concealer or foundation shades you’d like to teach? I struggle so hard to find any that look natural and am perpetually bamboozling employees at Sephora or other makeup stores. Pale desaturated olive with rosacea that distracts and makes people think I’m way more pink than I actually am.
This NEEDS to go viral. The number of people it would help!!! I am so excited to try this and to stop wasting money on lip colors that end up being terrible on me!
This is so interesting. Erin Parsons bought Marilyn Monroe’s actual lipsticks and her “signature red lip” wasn’t actually red, it was coral. I wonder if it’s the same thing at play.
That was because of the lighting and the filming. Movie and stage make up are notorious for things being different colors. They still do it today. Look at BTS shots from films and look in particular at clothing. Screen worn outfits are often NOT the color they appear on screen.
After watching that video, I ventured into buying some coral/orange lipsticks and voila! I found my ideal "red" lipstick shade. I don't have the exact one Erin said is the closest to Marylin's but I have Revlon 895 Poppy and I think it is close enough :)
Ok this explains why every single lipstick looks completely different on me than other people or the online swatches. This is absolutely amazing and I’ve never seen anyone address this!!
Same, same, same! I have only recently started trying to wear lipstick (in my early 50’s) and I was getting so very frustrated because everything I try turns out completely different on me! This is absolutely life changing for me and I thank you so much! ❤
Thank you for mentioning that olive skin tones make everything weirder. Having pale olive skin changes everything, I wonder if this would actually work for me! I used to wear peach because I liked it and every time I would see myself in a mirror in public I’d be like, oh girl you’ve never looked worse. And now I know I’m cool toned bright winter it has changed everything. Shopping is easier, I cleaned out my closet, I realized why peach blush never worked for me along with all bronzers (which are warm tone by nature), and started shopping Korean makeup which is has an actual selection of pale olive makeup like contour that actually blends seamlessly with my skin. It’s incredible.
Hi, I’m also a cool toned pale olive, high contrast winter. I’ve recently found Korean skincare products which I love. Could you please share the brand or store you’re getting your Korean makeup from? I’d love to try them as I’m struggling to find my colours in the usual western brands.
@@CuriousChar oh of course! Most notably Etude. The two tone Etude contour is chef’s kiss. The first time I used it I literally thought it wasn’t working because it complemented my skin tone so well and I was used to looking muddy from using bronzer as contour (a crime I know haha) or something super cool tone but also way too dark like the Kat Von D contour. I get most my recommendations come from Alexandra Anele. It’s been a game changer watching RUclipsr with the same skin tone as me. She will even take all of her best olive foundations and swatch them all on her face at once to show the difference, it’s incredible.
Yep! As an ( warm) olive person on the mute autumn spectrum, I struggled for a long time with finding colors for my complexion. Warm colors like Oranges, deep browns and bright reds seemed too harsh on me. Corals were too pale or bright, did not blend. So of course, my next thought was, maybe I'm cool tone? ... No. Purples and cool pinks (bright winter colors or light summer colors) did not blend with my complexion and were too pale/ washed me out and just did not look right. No colors looked the same on me even if I saw someone the same shade as me (but different undertones) use it. All these brown girls who used purple and it showed pink on them or the ones that wore oranges and it looked more red/not as bright on me... Turns out that colors that show pink on me are... Calm warm colors like muted beige tones or pinky beiges, the ones that other brown girls would define as 'dusty'/'ashy'. It's very interesting how undertones work.
I love these art math vids. To me this one was so clear and fun and very useful. Trying it tmrw... Then probably going to go down a Sephora rabbit hole of adding and deleting colours on my wish list😅
🤯 Ruby slippers moment … just went through the steps and realized that first “reads red on me” color is a very close match for the lipstick I think of as “nude plus” and carry with me always. The one I can throw on with little or no other makeup and feel put together but not clownish. In other words, Fairy Godmother Kackie just showed me I’m already a French Girl.
The right shade of red to wear close to your face is the best thing you can do when not having time fir makeup and/or not feeling very well. It will work wonders. (scarves are easy for that!)
OMG freedom! Who knew my ideal red was freaking orange?! Jones Road Valencia was in my desk drawer (inspired by Scarlet Johansson's lip in Wes Andersen's Asteroid City). Art math suggests my lips are so blue they balance out the orange and we land on red? You're magic. Thank you
This has my mind completely blown. This type of content scratches an itch in my brain and answers questions that I never even knew to ask. Science and math are subjects that I always understood and truly enjoy. Art has never been my strong suit, but I enjoy being creative and makeup has always been an outlet for me to just have fun with different colors, textures, etc. Now I get to combine science, art, math and makeup and put some more thoughtfulness behind my creativity. Thank you Kackie!!!
Exactly how I felt about this video! I'd love more ways to play with colour theory and photo tools like this for people like me that are not "naturals" when it comes to understanding colour but can do so with a bit of tech help.
THIS WAS WILD AND SO HELPFUL. omg thank you so much for this. as someone who cant picture things in my mind the idea of just trusting the computer is great!
Yep! My perfect red is actually a fuchsia. I need some purple in my red. Bite Beauty made a lipstick in the Mulberry that was absolutely perfect for me (RIP). The new Ilia lip crayons have 2 that are really similar: blue note and night bloom.
Same here. I've been gravitating to fuchsia in lieu of red since high school, and now I know why. And I'm not surprised, because I'm very pale and have a bluish undertone. Also, I have Bite Mulberry and really need to wear that more often.
You look like a strawberry blonde, as am I and I don’t know why purple lipstick works so well on me but I saw a makeup video with Julianne Moore and she said she has always been told peaches work well on redheads but she prefers purple. I feel like oranges look pretty but make my teeth look brown. The purple seems to make my blue eyes pop
This explains how I stumbled into my perfect red by complete accident. I ordered a ColourPop lip tint in A-Go-Go which is described (and shown) as *a sheer rosy pink*. I really wanted it for those *no makeup* makeup days so imagine my surprise when I put it on and it morphed into a saturated watermelon red color that I NEVER would have chosen to try. And it looked amazing! I wear it almost every day now. Off to try that computer trick.
Wait! Your best 'red' generated by the photo editor looked like a deep but desaturated rosy-mauve (with the highest contrast colour being in the coral family). Consequently, I expected you to apply lip products matching this colour/colour family to test your hypothesis. But you ended up applying lip products that looked peachy and rusty orange/deeper terracotta (which look like variations of your 'perfect' beige)... Yet, after application, these colours looked reddish on you... This is the part that confuses me. What about trying lip products with colours that are the shade of the editor-generated rosy-mauve, aka your hypothesised 'best red'? Would that still look red on you? I am trying to understand whether finding the colour matching my most saturated part of the lip (what you showed in the very beginning) would still work for finding my perfect red. I hope that makes sense...
We must have the same phone. Sadly, all screens look different. I saw what I would describe as a cool, pinky brown, then she tried peachy/ rusty lipsticks and the first one did not look red at all to me, each lipstick as she went along looked a bit redder, but sort of brick red. They did, however, all flatter her complexion beautifully. However, I feel even less able to find nice lipsticks now... Except by choosing shades very similar to ones that have worked in the past. Personally (hello, fellow pale olive complexions) I have completely given up on pinks of any kind, I have a deep 'dirty pinky peach' that is neutral enough to be wearable, and every other lipstick I wear is some shade of berry (Revlon black cherry, vampire kiss, MAC Dark Side, NYX Fat oil in That's Chic or That's Major, the latter leans to pink, but the sheerness makes it okay).
Im the same and always used graoe juice by maybelline which looked mauve on me and everyone asked where i got it..sadly they discontinued the colour and ive spent a foryune trying to replicate the shade! The swatch, even on my hand looked identical but not on my lips. I thkught i was mad..now i understand❤@carolesmall-diop2333
I think you're missing the part about saturation If you back and watch the part at 3:04 to 3:18 or so, you'll see how she arrived at the more orangey colour: you take the first colour and THEN you max out the saturation without changing anything else(also in the photo editor). She didn't change anything else about the colour except the saturation and that was the colour it turned out, so that's how she ended up there. The first colour would make a good lipsticks shade but it wouldn't make a "red" because the saturation isn't high enough.
Is It possibile that to me It turns out to be a bright red (I put the slider on red and then the max saturation on)? My Natural tone Is burgundy @@xiola
Na, on my phone none of the tones in her lip looked red. They looked really really great on her, but it's just not a red tone and my brain didn't perceive it as red, more like a sort of earthy orange.
I’ve been absolutely loving all the art math videos lately, I cannot wait to play around and figure out my perfect nude that won’t give me the dreaded “corpse lips”! Thank you thank you!!! 😊 And, as a literal girl raised in France who has never been able to pull off the effortless French girl look, I now understand that my essence likely factors heavily into that too because I can’t pull off all of those frilly French girl clothes either! Love videos like this that make me rethink things in helpful ways!
This channel has quickly became my comfort channel and one of the few things that keep getting me curious and excited since i haven’t been doing great lately. I learn mind blowing stuff from you and I can’t believe how quickly it changed how i look at things. Thank you, really. You’re doing great ❤❤
I have been searching so long for a red and spent so much money to only check them in the trash. I'm blonde, blue eyed, but not the same coloring of Taylor Swift!! Thank you so much!!!!
GAME CHANGER! This made so much click for me. Between this video, the contrast, undertone, and saturation ones I'm figuring out why I tend to like certain colors on me better versus others. I think I'm a high contrast girlie on the neutral cooler side, and I tend to wear vampy lips. So, when summer rolls around, I feel lost with colors becuase they all feel too warm and usually end up going for blotted down versions of my vampy shades to lighten things up. This may also be becuase I'm olive and although I'm pale, my complexion tends to go more yellow in the summer sun. I would love if you addressed olive tones, becuase it seems like a wild card. It's so hard to find shades, especially when shopping online.
I’m in school to study color and this is such a cool application/example of the contextual nature of color - what a color looks like in some isolated setting can seem so unrelated to how it looks with a particular background or surround
This recent series of videos you've made on contrast and color theory are MIND BLOWING!!! I can't believe nobody has taught me this before. I'd love more, endlessly more, ART MATH. And does this mean that I can do the same thing with blush by color picking my cheek colour??
so true! I discovered recently that my best beige/brown everyday lip colour is a PURPLE. In fact, all my best lip colours are some version of PURPLE. So I threw out a ton of "brown " lipsticks and i couldn't be happier. Now, less than 5% of readymade lipsticks out there are PURPLE -- but now that I know, I will never go back to all those pinks reds and browns ! BTW I also discovered that my best foundation is a whitish pink and my best contour colour is a plain yellow with a breath of grey. Seriously. Every other foundation, no matter how "cool" it seems, turns hideous ORANGE on my skin. So I mix my own now in a little dish everyday. I always said I couldn't be bothered to do that, but seeing the result, it's so worth it!
Interesting! I love purple as lip color, but to me it acts more as red / bold lip color. I wonder if you know your undertone? (This color theory on makeup thing is so fascinating)
@@MA-2020 yes my undertone (as you would expect) is cool. It's complicated by my having a lot of natural rosiness/flushing on my cheeks, nose and chin. The blush I use is the palest pastel baby pink that is made; as anything darker on me looks like clown patches. I am sure the makeup consultants in the shops think I'm mad when I go in asking for these products.
Purple is my favorite lip color. I discovered a beautiful raisin-plum-brown which is just my IDEAL dark lip. I haven't tried to get a red yet, but I need to try it, now.
Oh I'm giving the side eye to my very unused red lipsticks that I put on once or tried on and ended up taking them off like... "so it wasn't your fault... it was mine."
Ive always known that most lip shades look wrong on me. Pinks look red, mauve looks red, nude looks peachy, coral looks orange and brown looks spicy/brick red. Until now I didnt know why, thought it was my ph or skin chemistry or something. Very frustrating! I can wear very neutral/cool red which doesnt look too bad, but usually its too much contrast for me.
This problem has been driving me nuts. I bought some glasses with a very pink bit in the frame, but couldn’t understand why they looked red on me, and was going nuts trying to find a lipstick to match. Now I know why this is happening and can reassess my lipsticks, thank you!! 😂
This did NOT work for me. I ended up with something identical to my lip color and then something obviously too orange. Used the same photo program and did the same steps, but it didn't turn red on my complexion.
Just checking: did you mean to upload two videos on the same day at about the same time? It just doesn't seem like your usual schedule, so I wanted to give you a heads up in case it was a mistake. If not, just ignore 😊
I had the same thought! But if you watch the other video first, she addresses that she’s uploaded 2 videos today that are related on color theory… So it seems intentional 🙂
I have pretty pigmented lips and I’m always so frustrated, I try any of these “ nude” or “everyday” lip sticks and they just look BROWN and make me look dead! I tried it and the slider was almost all the way magenta. I don’t have a problem with red or berry, but finding a natural looking tone has been a bear. Color theory is really wild😂
OMG this explains so much!!!! I used to buy every red shade from maybelline's matte ink line in Hope of finding MY RED, and one day I bought a slightly more Pink and desaturated shade that has become my favourite red of all times, but when you see the packaging is like Pink lol. Just discovered your channel, YOU ARE AMAZING!!! Subscribed!!!
I already have my perfect red, which is rather orange and I never understood why it's red on me until I watched your video. This is such a valuable resource. I showed this video to my boyfriend who isn't interested in makeup but likes to draw, and even he got so delighted when that coral turned into red on your lips. Bravo!
So fun! You might know about the stylist David Zyla? Your video made me think about his way to find YOUR RED, which he call your Romantic Color. And It's by pinching the fleshy tip of your fingers, looking at the deepest color of your lips (like you do here) or the color you naturally blush - like if you litteraly pinch your cheek. He explains that different saturations will look good too. So your red can be brick, peppermint pink, strawberry, peach, burned orange, dusty whatever... it's all ''your red''! I love this concept.
Art math for all the reds that I've bought that are NOT my perfect red, Alex Anele's trick of using a neutral (compared to you face and the red) brown lip liner makes it look so much more native. NYX moonwalk is my cool and NYX Nude Truffle is my warm. I'm excited to use this to find a red that doesn't require a brown lip!
This was so informative and helpful. But more than anything, you are just an UTTER DELIGHT to learn from and to watch. Thanks for the giggles and the rad info!
Very cool concept. I wish I wasn't colorblind! LOL!! I have worn red for decades! I'd love to see you do this with, gasp, drugstore affordable lipstick.
so much color fun! Another dimension that I'd love to see you address is the visual weight/balance of features on the face and how that affects makeup. Eg. some of us cannot wear bold makeup not just because of contrast but because of things like hooded/protruberant eyes or a long philtrum/more weighted lower half of the face. It sounds weird but it's true. I have learned the hard way that I can't wear mascara or waterline (or even line) my lower lashes - it makes my eyes look much smaller and highlights my under eye bags. I have tried this my entire life and finally realize that I just don't have the eye shape for it. Also bold lips are not that great in my face shape (rectangular face, more weighted in bottom of face). In terms of celebrities I think of Renee Zellweger, Jennifer Aniston or Julia Roberts - basically none of them have worn bold lips since the 90s. I don't think it's just that they have lower contrast, I think it also has to do with how they balance their facial features. There are no makeup influencers talking about this, mostly I guess bc when you have these features you can't really do a lot of makeup looks!
Hi Kackie, Fellow painter here! I just want to make sure I’m understanding the background theory correctly. We have three dimensions of color: hue, value, saturation. The one thing you hold constant here is the value of your lip color. You manipulate hue-e.g. when you pick red or beige. And you can manipulate saturation to your liking. But the one dimension that won’t change is the original value of your lip color. Did I understand that correctly? And that relates, I think, to your point in the previous video that being high or low contrast matters-e.g. presumably, if you have deeper lip color, you are higher contrast. This method does require having some independent sense about which hue to select-e.g. which red will be flattering on you (a warmer or cooler red). Is this right? V Cool!
I bought Merit Court, and WHOA it looks so red and bright on me. I had considered buying Vermillion or one of their brighter ones, but I’m so glad didn’t!
That’s one I keep deliberating over as it seems a muted, brick red. My colouring is soft autumn and I keep thinking it would look like it’s not too out of place on my face 😂
I've got a fun video idea for you. You know how everything goes orange on Hannah? Perhaps she could consent an experiment in which she send you a photo, you do your photoshop wizardry, and then seek to find some complimentary shades for her!
Edit to say i tried this and it turns out a good red for me is Serenity by Rare Beauty - the tinted lip oil. Described as a "warm rose". Never would have even tried this shade if not for this. This is actually SO helpful. I struggled for YEARS as a super pale desaturated neutral-yellow freckle face to find a red i could wear because every. Single. One. Looks hot pink on me. Will try this immediately.
I can't wear true or similar reds. But a lipstick that turns red on me is a purple red. On my white friend it looks purple but on me it looks red. Same with a mauve lipstick. My black colouring brings out the red in them. I have one red lipstick I like but it looks more orange on me. That works for me too. I still haven't understood fully what you explain, because I try to translate it to black and brown skin, and struggle a little with undertones in black skin and saturation, but I get the gist of it. Understanding saturation and how to figure out where I stand is a bigger struggle for me than I thought.
Interesting. I tried it on several photos of various skin tones. Maybe you'll surprise yourself? Especially because that color sample is really just finding a nuanced version of your lip's temperature/undertone, and you can play with the saturation as much as you want. Even gray has a temperature! ❤️☀️
This is probably the best video you have ever made. Okay, not probably, it is! This whole series of color theory in makeup artistry is everything! I just can't get enough. I've watched each of these videos two to three times already. This series needs to blow up RUclips!
Wow, that was absolutely amazing. I'm a yearbook teacher and I frequently SKIP doing a color theory refresher for my students (because yearbook teachers are usually English teachers not art teachers), buuuuuut I think this is such a cool way to integrate color theory AND Photoshop-ish software in a digestible way. Also, I'm going to go buy my perfect "red" lipstick because the reds I have are the same as what you were talking about-very not effortless-and I never thought of trying this before. Thank you for posting this!
Your knowledge of color theory & invaluable artistry skills are SO appreciated. Yes. So many dollars wasted on "red" lipstick that looked aweful on my lips. Now, I've got the tools to do better. Thank you!
This is soooo COOL and I replayed it so many time just to see your reaction everytime you try on a "red" shade HAHAHAHA! What a GREAT laugh you have! Oh..I'm also using this theory on my skin to find my best clothing colours. Not sure if it works but I think so 😂
Hm, those are red shades. For most of us you can’t just pull off any super red-roses red and look good. This is an option to find your red, that will actually good on you, not get the same red as “classic” or whatever you have seen in movies and not make you a clown. I defo look like one with bright red 😅
This explains why all my favorite shades are ones I didn't think I would like at first...so much mental space has been opened up now that this makes sense so thank you haha
Who would have guessed my ideal effortless red lip was in reality just magenta with a hint of red 🤦♀️ but it works. Now to find one in a formula I actually like, not one that feels like crushed chalk
This is fascinating but I must be an idiot because I downloaded the app and have been sitting here digging through it and can’t figure out where you went to do that edit.
I figured this out about 6 months ago and tried out a Dior lipstick in 720 Icone, that looks like mid desaturated mauvey brick in the bullet. Surprise to me, on my really pale olive complection it looks like the best bricky red on me, still intense, but it looks right. The art math do be mathin’
This makes so much sense. I know from getting my colors done (by someone who knows what they are doing) that my skin tone affects how other colors look on me, plus the other colors affect how my skin looks. Black brings out red cheeks (not in a good way) but put me in a golden tan and the red goes away. One color WILL affect other color.
After YEARS of searching for a wearable red lip that didn't make me look like Pennywise, I used your method and I did it! I finally did it! Used the "red" lipstick to create an amazing look for my little sister's wedding and it turned out awesome. Thank you! ETA: My skin tone and natural lip color are close to Kackie's. The lipstick I wound up using is Essence The Slim Stick Lipstick in shade 103 "Brickroad" and it's very similar in color to the second lipstick used in this video by RMS (swatch online looked mauve, but it's actually more terracotta looking in person). $5 tube of lipstick, it held up surprisingly well!
I immediately went and did this and its so true! I then rifled through my lipstick collection and tried on the ones that matched the colours. They were the most used shades, in most cases, and the ones that I have found always look flattering on me. I now have a range of photos in my phone that I will use when choosing lipsticks, from playing with those pic monkey colours. Very handy!
Y'ALL! If you do this and find your perfect "red" PLEASE TAG ME on IG! I would love to repost them and have a highlight of the various shades that worked for y'all. Make sure you tell everyone what shade it is! ❤❤❤
I'm unable to tag you on ig
I’m not on instagram but after your first contrast video I went on the hunt at Sephora and found NARS Aragon is my red lip! They make it in a lip shine (sort of balmy but more coverage) and a lip gloss. Both look stunning on me as red but look like… rusty chestnut brown in the bullet! ❤
Thank you for doing this! I have actually thought SO much about this over the years, because I try red lips (and bangs, unfortunately) about every five years, and I'm always disappointed. I'm not on insta (for my mentie healf), but my "red" is Charlotte Tilbury Walk of No Shame. I am a fairly light neutral olive, and I cannot wear a true red without it looking like a clown mouth that belongs to someone else. But darn it if Walk of No Shame doesn't read as red on me. I don't really like buying from CT, because she kind of annoys me, but I can't find another shade and formula that works better for me as an occasion lip. I have found other warmish roses, like Lisa Eldridge Enchantment, but too much opacity also isn't good on me. For some reason I have to have a tiny bit of my own lip coming through or, again, it looks like there are wax lips floating on my face.
Hey Kackie have you ever heard the theory that Marilyn's famous red lipstick was actually orange?!
Also, a pretty solid way to find a lipliner shade - any nifty tricks with concealer or foundation shades you’d like to teach? I struggle so hard to find any that look natural and am perpetually bamboozling employees at Sephora or other makeup stores. Pale desaturated olive with rosacea that distracts and makes people think I’m way more pink than I actually am.
The one in which Kackie explains why it’s so hard to trust swatches and swatch photos. At least now I know I’m not an idiot. 🤣
You're not!!!
I literally had to reset my Sephora wish list after watching this series 😂
This NEEDS to go viral. The number of people it would help!!! I am so excited to try this and to stop wasting money on lip colors that end up being terrible on me!
You are SO clever.
Trying this 🎉
This is the highest value makeup video I’ve watched in a long time! Your videos have become masterclasses and I’m loving it!
This is so interesting. Erin Parsons bought Marilyn Monroe’s actual lipsticks and her “signature red lip” wasn’t actually red, it was coral. I wonder if it’s the same thing at play.
I believe it would show as red on screen because of the camera
Yes, because the camera tecnology at that time PLUS the coral lips color AND her skin tone made it look red. 😊
That was because of the lighting and the filming. Movie and stage make up are notorious for things being different colors. They still do it today. Look at BTS shots from films and look in particular at clothing. Screen worn outfits are often NOT the color they appear on screen.
After watching that video, I ventured into buying some coral/orange lipsticks and voila! I found my ideal "red" lipstick shade. I don't have the exact one Erin said is the closest to Marylin's but I have Revlon 895 Poppy and I think it is close enough :)
Interesting! I’ve heard Marilyn’s coloring was bright spring, so coral / orange-toned red would make sense.
Ok this explains why every single lipstick looks completely different on me than other people or the online swatches. This is absolutely amazing and I’ve never seen anyone address this!!
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Same, same, same! I have only recently started trying to wear lipstick (in my early 50’s) and I was getting so very frustrated because everything I try turns out completely different on me! This is absolutely life changing for me and I thank you so much! ❤
When you got to "and if you have olive undertones, it's even WEIRDER--"
I felt that in my little green soul.
in all of my YEARS watching yt videos about makeup, i truly believe this is single-handedly the most useful EASY one by far
thank you!!!
Thank you for mentioning that olive skin tones make everything weirder. Having pale olive skin changes everything, I wonder if this would actually work for me! I used to wear peach because I liked it and every time I would see myself in a mirror in public I’d be like, oh girl you’ve never looked worse. And now I know I’m cool toned bright winter it has changed everything. Shopping is easier, I cleaned out my closet, I realized why peach blush never worked for me along with all bronzers (which are warm tone by nature), and started shopping Korean makeup which is has an actual selection of pale olive makeup like contour that actually blends seamlessly with my skin. It’s incredible.
Hi, I’m also a cool toned pale olive, high contrast winter. I’ve recently found Korean skincare products which I love. Could you please share the brand or store you’re getting your Korean makeup from? I’d love to try them as I’m struggling to find my colours in the usual western brands.
@@CuriousChar oh of course! Most notably Etude. The two tone Etude contour is chef’s kiss. The first time I used it I literally thought it wasn’t working because it complemented my skin tone so well and I was used to looking muddy from using bronzer as contour (a crime I know haha) or something super cool tone but also way too dark like the Kat Von D contour. I get most my recommendations come from Alexandra Anele. It’s been a game changer watching RUclipsr with the same skin tone as me. She will even take all of her best olive foundations and swatch them all on her face at once to show the difference, it’s incredible.
Woah.. what?! You can be a cool-toned olive? I swear they never ever suggest that in most guides. 😭
Yep! As an ( warm) olive person on the mute autumn spectrum, I struggled for a long time with finding colors for my complexion.
Warm colors like Oranges, deep browns and bright reds seemed too harsh on me. Corals were too pale or bright, did not blend.
So of course, my next thought was, maybe I'm cool tone? ... No. Purples and cool pinks (bright winter colors or light summer colors) did not blend with my complexion and were too pale/ washed me out and just did not look right.
No colors looked the same on me even if I saw someone the same shade as me (but different undertones) use it. All these brown girls who used purple and it showed pink on them or the ones that wore oranges and it looked more red/not as bright on me...
Turns out that colors that show pink on me are... Calm warm colors like muted beige tones or pinky beiges, the ones that other brown girls would define as 'dusty'/'ashy'.
It's very interesting how undertones work.
And yeah, I also only get Korean autumn warm products because on the western side everything is too dark or orange 😅
I love these art math vids. To me this one was so clear and fun and very useful. Trying it tmrw... Then probably going to go down a Sephora rabbit hole of adding and deleting colours on my wish list😅
🤯 Ruby slippers moment … just went through the steps and realized that first “reads red on me” color is a very close match for the lipstick I think of as “nude plus” and carry with me always. The one I can throw on with little or no other makeup and feel put together but not clownish.
In other words, Fairy Godmother Kackie just showed me I’m already a French Girl.
The right shade of red to wear close to your face is the best thing you can do when not having time fir makeup and/or not feeling very well. It will work wonders. (scarves are easy for that!)
This is the best RUclips video I've ever seen. How does this apply to blush and bronzers, etc??
I need this too. Especially the blush. Please please do blush like this!
Wow! Interesting!!! Yess
OMG freedom! Who knew my ideal red was freaking orange?! Jones Road Valencia was in my desk drawer (inspired by Scarlet Johansson's lip in Wes Andersen's Asteroid City). Art math suggests my lips are so blue they balance out the orange and we land on red? You're magic. Thank you
This is actually the case for Marilyn Monroe. Her classic red lip is actually orange. :)
Oh! This explains why most purple eyeshadow looks grey on me, and why greens turn bluish
This has my mind completely blown. This type of content scratches an itch in my brain and answers questions that I never even knew to ask. Science and math are subjects that I always understood and truly enjoy. Art has never been my strong suit, but I enjoy being creative and makeup has always been an outlet for me to just have fun with different colors, textures, etc. Now I get to combine science, art, math and makeup and put some more thoughtfulness behind my creativity. Thank you Kackie!!!
Exactly how I felt about this video! I'd love more ways to play with colour theory and photo tools like this for people like me that are not "naturals" when it comes to understanding colour but can do so with a bit of tech help.
Yesss!
THIS WAS WILD AND SO HELPFUL. omg thank you so much for this. as someone who cant picture things in my mind the idea of just trusting the computer is great!
Yep! My perfect red is actually a fuchsia. I need some purple in my red. Bite Beauty made a lipstick in the Mulberry that was absolutely perfect for me (RIP). The new Ilia lip crayons have 2 that are really similar: blue note and night bloom.
Same here. I've been gravitating to fuchsia in lieu of red since high school, and now I know why. And I'm not surprised, because I'm very pale and have a bluish undertone. Also, I have Bite Mulberry and really need to wear that more often.
Omg y'all tag meeeee I wanna see
You look like a strawberry blonde, as am I and I don’t know why purple lipstick works so well on me but I saw a makeup video with Julianne Moore and she said she has always been told peaches work well on redheads but she prefers purple. I feel like oranges look pretty but make my teeth look brown. The purple seems to make my blue eyes pop
Merit fashion looks pretty on me and maybe would work for you😊
@@Pangaea83 no I am not strawberry at all 😂
This explains how I stumbled into my perfect red by complete accident. I ordered a ColourPop lip tint in A-Go-Go which is described (and shown) as *a sheer rosy pink*. I really wanted it for those *no makeup* makeup days so imagine my surprise when I put it on and it morphed into a saturated watermelon red color that I NEVER would have chosen to try. And it looked amazing! I wear it almost every day now. Off to try that computer trick.
Two Kackie videos at the same time??? Oh I am LIVING for it
YES!!! I am feeling spoiled as hell!!!! ❤
Wait! Your best 'red' generated by the photo editor looked like a deep but desaturated rosy-mauve (with the highest contrast colour being in the coral family). Consequently, I expected you to apply lip products matching this colour/colour family to test your hypothesis. But you ended up applying lip products that looked peachy and rusty orange/deeper terracotta (which look like variations of your 'perfect' beige)... Yet, after application, these colours looked reddish on you... This is the part that confuses me. What about trying lip products with colours that are the shade of the editor-generated rosy-mauve, aka your hypothesised 'best red'? Would that still look red on you? I am trying to understand whether finding the colour matching my most saturated part of the lip (what you showed in the very beginning) would still work for finding my perfect red. I hope that makes sense...
We must have the same phone. Sadly, all screens look different. I saw what I would describe as a cool, pinky brown, then she tried peachy/ rusty lipsticks and the first one did not look red at all to me, each lipstick as she went along looked a bit redder, but sort of brick red. They did, however, all flatter her complexion beautifully. However, I feel even less able to find nice lipsticks now... Except by choosing shades very similar to ones that have worked in the past. Personally (hello, fellow pale olive complexions) I have completely given up on pinks of any kind, I have a deep 'dirty pinky peach' that is neutral enough to be wearable, and every other lipstick I wear is some shade of berry (Revlon black cherry, vampire kiss, MAC Dark Side, NYX Fat oil in That's Chic or That's Major, the latter leans to pink, but the sheerness makes it okay).
Im the same and always used graoe juice by maybelline which looked mauve on me and everyone asked where i got it..sadly they discontinued the colour and ive spent a foryune trying to replicate the shade! The swatch, even on my hand looked identical but not on my lips. I thkught i was mad..now i understand❤@carolesmall-diop2333
I think you're missing the part about saturation If you back and watch the part at 3:04 to 3:18 or so, you'll see how she arrived at the more orangey colour: you take the first colour and THEN you max out the saturation without changing anything else(also in the photo editor). She didn't change anything else about the colour except the saturation and that was the colour it turned out, so that's how she ended up there.
The first colour would make a good lipsticks shade but it wouldn't make a "red" because the saturation isn't high enough.
Is It possibile that to me It turns out to be a bright red (I put the slider on red and then the max saturation on)? My Natural tone Is burgundy @@xiola
Na, on my phone none of the tones in her lip looked red. They looked really really great on her, but it's just not a red tone and my brain didn't perceive it as red, more like a sort of earthy orange.
I’ve been absolutely loving all the art math videos lately, I cannot wait to play around and figure out my perfect nude that won’t give me the dreaded “corpse lips”! Thank you thank you!!! 😊
And, as a literal girl raised in France who has never been able to pull off the effortless French girl look, I now understand that my essence likely factors heavily into that too because I can’t pull off all of those frilly French girl clothes either! Love videos like this that make me rethink things in helpful ways!
Moi Aussie!
I love how genuine and enthusiastic you are about this. No pretense, just real.
THE WAY I JUST SHOUTED AT THE SCREEN WHEN THE COLOR LITERALLY CHANGED BEFORE MY EYES 👏
Holy crap this technique feels revolutionary. It's actually objective and takes all the guesswork out. Gonna go hit up my Photoshop this afternoon!!!
This channel has quickly became my comfort channel and one of the few things that keep getting me curious and excited since i haven’t been doing great lately. I learn mind blowing stuff from you and I can’t believe how quickly it changed how i look at things. Thank you, really. You’re doing great ❤❤
I have been searching so long for a red and spent so much money to only check them in the trash. I'm blonde, blue eyed, but not the same coloring of Taylor Swift!! Thank you so much!!!!
I have literally never commented on a RUclips video, but your art math/makeup mash up is absolutely addicting. I love it so much.
GAME CHANGER! This made so much click for me. Between this video, the contrast, undertone, and saturation ones I'm figuring out why I tend to like certain colors on me better versus others. I think I'm a high contrast girlie on the neutral cooler side, and I tend to wear vampy lips. So, when summer rolls around, I feel lost with colors becuase they all feel too warm and usually end up going for blotted down versions of my vampy shades to lighten things up. This may also be becuase I'm olive and although I'm pale, my complexion tends to go more yellow in the summer sun. I would love if you addressed olive tones, becuase it seems like a wild card. It's so hard to find shades, especially when shopping online.
OMG A KACKIE DOUBLE-FEATURE!! Thanks Kackie!!! I need this red lip video so bad
Omg I'm doing this with my skin to get clothing colors, too. I've never known what looks good on me, so this is unbelievably helpful!
That could be so helpful! Do you select a specific part of the skin? I would like to try!
I love all your art math videos. This is so bleeping helpful. I was a math math major and am art math dumb lol. THANK YOU!
I’m in school to study color and this is such a cool application/example of the contextual nature of color - what a color looks like in some isolated setting can seem so unrelated to how it looks with a particular background or surround
This is so helpful for someone like me who can't ever identify cool and warm is less obvious colors.
This recent series of videos you've made on contrast and color theory are MIND BLOWING!!! I can't believe nobody has taught me this before. I'd love more, endlessly more, ART MATH. And does this mean that I can do the same thing with blush by color picking my cheek colour??
I've never seen someone else who is as genuinely thrilled by color theory as I am 😂 it's kind of validating, ngl.
so true! I discovered recently that my best beige/brown everyday lip colour is a PURPLE. In fact, all my best lip colours are some version of PURPLE. So I threw out a ton of "brown " lipsticks and i couldn't be happier. Now, less than 5% of readymade lipsticks out there are PURPLE -- but now that I know, I will never go back to all those pinks reds and browns !
BTW I also discovered that my best foundation is a whitish pink and my best contour colour is a plain yellow with a breath of grey. Seriously. Every other foundation, no matter how "cool" it seems, turns hideous ORANGE on my skin. So I mix my own now in a little dish everyday. I always said I couldn't be bothered to do that, but seeing the result, it's so worth it!
Interesting!
Interesting! I love purple as lip color, but to me it acts more as red / bold lip color. I wonder if you know your undertone? (This color theory on makeup thing is so fascinating)
@@MA-2020 yes my undertone (as you would expect) is cool. It's complicated by my having a lot of natural rosiness/flushing on my cheeks, nose and chin. The blush I use is the palest pastel baby pink that is made; as anything darker on me looks like clown patches. I am sure the makeup consultants in the shops think I'm mad when I go in asking for these products.
Purple is my favorite lip color. I discovered a beautiful raisin-plum-brown which is just my IDEAL dark lip. I haven't tried to get a red yet, but I need to try it, now.
One of the best makeup videos or color theory videos I’ve watched! Your artmath skills and teaching abilities are *chef’s kiss*.
Dude. What. So fascinating.
Oh I'm giving the side eye to my very unused red lipsticks that I put on once or tried on and ended up taking them off like... "so it wasn't your fault... it was mine."
Ive always known that most lip shades look wrong on me. Pinks look red, mauve looks red, nude looks peachy, coral looks orange and brown looks spicy/brick red. Until now I didnt know why, thought it was my ph or skin chemistry or something. Very frustrating! I can wear very neutral/cool red which doesnt look too bad, but usually its too much contrast for me.
This problem has been driving me nuts. I bought some glasses with a very pink bit in the frame, but couldn’t understand why they looked red on me, and was going nuts trying to find a lipstick to match. Now I know why this is happening and can reassess my lipsticks, thank you!! 😂
This did NOT work for me. I ended up with something identical to my lip color and then something obviously too orange. Used the same photo program and did the same steps, but it didn't turn red on my complexion.
Just checking: did you mean to upload two videos on the same day at about the same time? It just doesn't seem like your usual schedule, so I wanted to give you a heads up in case it was a mistake. If not, just ignore 😊
Yup
I had the same thought! But if you watch the other video first, she addresses that she’s uploaded 2 videos today that are related on color theory… So it seems intentional 🙂
This is witchcraft! And I need somebody with a better color trained eye to do it for me!
I have pretty pigmented lips and I’m always so frustrated, I try any of these “ nude” or “everyday” lip sticks and they just look BROWN and make me look dead! I tried it and the slider was almost all the way magenta. I don’t have a problem with red or berry, but finding a natural looking tone has been a bear. Color theory is really wild😂
OMG this explains so much!!!! I used to buy every red shade from maybelline's matte ink line in Hope of finding MY RED, and one day I bought a slightly more Pink and desaturated shade that has become my favourite red of all times, but when you see the packaging is like Pink lol. Just discovered your channel, YOU ARE AMAZING!!! Subscribed!!!
I already have my perfect red, which is rather orange and I never understood why it's red on me until I watched your video. This is such a valuable resource.
I showed this video to my boyfriend who isn't interested in makeup but likes to draw, and even he got so delighted when that coral turned into red on your lips. Bravo!
Why am I literally tearing up about it your delighted laughter
So fun! You might know about the stylist David Zyla? Your video made me think about his way to find YOUR RED, which he call your Romantic Color. And It's by pinching the fleshy tip of your fingers, looking at the deepest color of your lips (like you do here) or the color you naturally blush - like if you litteraly pinch your cheek. He explains that different saturations will look good too. So your red can be brick, peppermint pink, strawberry, peach, burned orange, dusty whatever... it's all ''your red''! I love this concept.
Light berry, apparently. Thanks, I'll try it!
I have a palette from Zyla and my red works in clothes but not in lipstick. I turn the color very very pink when I put it on my lips.
Huh. This explains why plums, berries, and winey purples tend tend to look red on my freakishly cool toned face...
Art math for all the reds that I've bought that are NOT my perfect red, Alex Anele's trick of using a neutral (compared to you face and the red) brown lip liner makes it look so much more native. NYX moonwalk is my cool and NYX Nude Truffle is my warm.
I'm excited to use this to find a red that doesn't require a brown lip!
Ok, how do I find my perfect nude? I have olive skin and it’s impossible!
This was so informative and helpful. But more than anything, you are just an UTTER DELIGHT to learn from and to watch. Thanks for the giggles and the rad info!
Man, I have been loving your videos lately. Here for the art nerd content!!
WOW! Affair looks red on you?!?! my goodness I have to try this. Thanks for this, fascinating. Our visual system is an absolute gas, isn't it.
Very cool concept. I wish I wasn't colorblind! LOL!!
I have worn red for decades! I'd love to see you do this with, gasp, drugstore affordable lipstick.
so much color fun! Another dimension that I'd love to see you address is the visual weight/balance of features on the face and how that affects makeup. Eg. some of us cannot wear bold makeup not just because of contrast but because of things like hooded/protruberant eyes or a long philtrum/more weighted lower half of the face. It sounds weird but it's true. I have learned the hard way that I can't wear mascara or waterline (or even line) my lower lashes - it makes my eyes look much smaller and highlights my under eye bags. I have tried this my entire life and finally realize that I just don't have the eye shape for it. Also bold lips are not that great in my face shape (rectangular face, more weighted in bottom of face). In terms of celebrities I think of Renee Zellweger, Jennifer Aniston or Julia Roberts - basically none of them have worn bold lips since the 90s. I don't think it's just that they have lower contrast, I think it also has to do with how they balance their facial features. There are no makeup influencers talking about this, mostly I guess bc when you have these features you can't really do a lot of makeup looks!
Hi Kackie, Fellow painter here! I just want to make sure I’m understanding the background theory correctly. We have three dimensions of color: hue, value, saturation. The one thing you hold constant here is the value of your lip color. You manipulate hue-e.g. when you pick red or beige. And you can manipulate saturation to your liking. But the one dimension that won’t change is the original value of your lip color. Did I understand that correctly? And that relates, I think, to your point in the previous video that being high or low contrast matters-e.g. presumably, if you have deeper lip color, you are higher contrast. This method does require having some independent sense about which hue to select-e.g. which red will be flattering on you (a warmer or cooler red). Is this right? V Cool!
Beautiful colours on you - but they are not red? So confusing when you call colours that is obiously not red red?
I bought Merit Court, and WHOA it looks so red and bright on me. I had considered buying Vermillion or one of their brighter ones, but I’m so glad didn’t!
That’s one I keep deliberating over as it seems a muted, brick red. My colouring is soft autumn and I keep thinking it would look like it’s not too out of place on my face 😂
Am I the only one who doesn't see those as "red" when on her? They DO look good, but I don't see red.
Same, it's not really a red lip to me. Just a saturated rusty color
Yeah, but she later said effortlessly French red so I guess this fits.
yeah im pale olive and my red needs to be a browned red because every single red on the market is actually either orange or pink on me 😭
I've got a fun video idea for you. You know how everything goes orange on Hannah? Perhaps she could consent an experiment in which she send you a photo, you do your photoshop wizardry, and then seek to find some complimentary shades for her!
How do I pull the correct dropper color for two toned lips? My lips are darker on the top lip and especially at the edges
Edit to say i tried this and it turns out a good red for me is Serenity by Rare Beauty - the tinted lip oil. Described as a "warm rose". Never would have even tried this shade if not for this.
This is actually SO helpful. I struggled for YEARS as a super pale desaturated neutral-yellow freckle face to find a red i could wear because every. Single. One. Looks hot pink on me. Will try this immediately.
The engineer in me is so happy today ❤
I can't wear true or similar reds. But a lipstick that turns red on me is a purple red. On my white friend it looks purple but on me it looks red. Same with a mauve lipstick. My black colouring brings out the red in them. I have one red lipstick I like but it looks more orange on me. That works for me too. I still haven't understood fully what you explain, because I try to translate it to black and brown skin, and struggle a little with undertones in black skin and saturation, but I get the gist of it. Understanding saturation and how to figure out where I stand is a bigger struggle for me than I thought.
I have heavily pigmented lips as a brown girl.. i doubt this'll work on me, my darkest lip colour is the lip outline that is literally grey 😅
Interesting. I tried it on several photos of various skin tones. Maybe you'll surprise yourself? Especially because that color sample is really just finding a nuanced version of your lip's temperature/undertone, and you can play with the saturation as much as you want. Even gray has a temperature! ❤️☀️
@@kackie will try for sure! 🥹
This is probably the best video you have ever made. Okay, not probably, it is! This whole series of color theory in makeup artistry is everything! I just can't get enough. I've watched each of these videos two to three times already. This series needs to blow up RUclips!
Wow, that was absolutely amazing. I'm a yearbook teacher and I frequently SKIP doing a color theory refresher for my students (because yearbook teachers are usually English teachers not art teachers), buuuuuut I think this is such a cool way to integrate color theory AND Photoshop-ish software in a digestible way.
Also, I'm going to go buy my perfect "red" lipstick because the reds I have are the same as what you were talking about-very not effortless-and I never thought of trying this before. Thank you for posting this!
OMG where has this been all my life?! Going to go download this program right now. As a scientist this really appeals to me.
LMK how it goes!!!
It doesn’t look red to me: looks orange-ish brown. Looks good tho!
Your knowledge of color theory & invaluable artistry skills are SO appreciated. Yes. So many dollars wasted on "red" lipstick that looked aweful on my lips. Now, I've got the tools to do better. Thank you!
Oh. My. God. This explains it!! I feel so validated 😂 excuse me. Heading over to canva now
This is soooo COOL and I replayed it so many time just to see your reaction everytime you try on a "red" shade HAHAHAHA! What a GREAT laugh you have! Oh..I'm also using this theory on my skin to find my best clothing colours. Not sure if it works but I think so 😂
What is the website the finds the lipstick based on the hex code?
this is INSANE. one of the most helpful videos ever. I’m definitely gonna try it!!!
My best red is straight up orange. It used to be jungle queen by lipstick queen, but now it's Morange by MAC
I loooooove Morange!
Hmm, appreciate your opinion but they look like like rust colored/burnt orange. 🤷♀️
Hm, those are red shades. For most of us you can’t just pull off any super red-roses red and look good. This is an option to find your red, that will actually good on you, not get the same red as “classic” or whatever you have seen in movies and not make you a clown. I defo look like one with bright red 😅
This explains why all my favorite shades are ones I didn't think I would like at first...so much mental space has been opened up now that this makes sense so thank you haha
this was such a fun video! I wonder if we can apply this same logic with finding our ideal blush shades, bronzer shades, etc. 👀
Well you are just an absolute DELIGHT! I have failed with reds and I am 49 years old. Totallly doing this in Canva. THANK YOU!
This is fascinating 🤩 would have loved to see the true red colour on you as well!
Look at the contrast video!
Can you do a version of this for foundation?
This might be the most informative makeup video ever created.
I've always hated how red looks on me. I'm trying this. I think I might finally find my red 😂
Show us the comparison of red on you to those colors
Who would have guessed my ideal effortless red lip was in reality just magenta with a hint of red 🤦♀️ but it works. Now to find one in a formula I actually like, not one that feels like crushed chalk
WTF 🤯 thank you for sharing Kackie!! This is SO helpful!!!!!
This is fascinating but I must be an idiot because I downloaded the app and have been sitting here digging through it and can’t figure out where you went to do that edit.
Might not be the same functionality on phone app
May need to do on puter
@@juneszeider5280 I had to do the “free trial” to access the ability.
I figured this out about 6 months ago and tried out a Dior lipstick in 720 Icone, that looks like mid desaturated mauvey brick in the bullet. Surprise to me, on my really pale olive complection it looks like the best bricky red on me, still intense, but it looks right. The art math do be mathin’
Omg, I'm a light olive too and Icone is my favourite! 🙌
Love this! I tried it and my red was more of a brownish pink to brick red.
Nice!!
In German "Kackie" could be translated into "Shitty".
"Kacke" literally means "Poo"...
So, nice name you've choosen there.. 😅
This makes so much sense. I know from getting my colors done (by someone who knows what they are doing) that my skin tone affects how other colors look on me, plus the other colors affect how my skin looks. Black brings out red cheeks (not in a good way) but put me in a golden tan and the red goes away. One color WILL affect other color.
After YEARS of searching for a wearable red lip that didn't make me look like Pennywise, I used your method and I did it! I finally did it! Used the "red" lipstick to create an amazing look for my little sister's wedding and it turned out awesome. Thank you!
ETA: My skin tone and natural lip color are close to Kackie's. The lipstick I wound up using is Essence The Slim Stick Lipstick in shade 103 "Brickroad" and it's very similar in color to the second lipstick used in this video by RMS (swatch online looked mauve, but it's actually more terracotta looking in person). $5 tube of lipstick, it held up surprisingly well!
The force with which my jaw hit the floor......
😮😮😮
This was too much fun.
Ugh the desired effect. This thrills me!!!
Color math 🤯
I immediately went and did this and its so true! I then rifled through my lipstick collection and tried on the ones that matched the colours. They were the most used shades, in most cases, and the ones that I have found always look flattering on me. I now have a range of photos in my phone that I will use when choosing lipsticks, from playing with those pic monkey colours. Very handy!
Just tried mine in Canva and my saturated tone was super bright pink, does that mean if I buy one it will still pull as red?
Clinique Black Honey is my red it’s so darn strange !!!
Black Honey has been my go to for over 25 years and it’s never let me down. I love it!xx❤️