Viv Albertine (The Slits) in conversation with Ian Svenonius | Primavera Pro 2017
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2017
- Viv Albertine, lead guitarist and songwriter for seminal band The Slits, television and film director, and author of “Clothes, Clothes, Clothes, Music, Music, Music, Boys, Boys, Boys” will be in conversation with musician, author and host, Ian Svenonius (Nation of Ulysses, the Make Up, Weird War, and Chain & the Gang), master of the interview having honed his skills through his Soft Focus series (Vice) interviewing artists such as Sonic Youth, Kevin Shields and Ian MacKaye. Anything can happen!
Speakers: Viv Albertine (The Slits)
Moderator: Ian Svenonius (The Make Up, Soft Focus) 
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Life changing book. Thanks for everything Viv!
I loved the book Viv,
Very raw and compelling throughout
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What a fab woman, an inspiration, just ordered the book.
I haven't read 'the book' because I'm unable to read due to sight problems. Everyone I know who HAS read the book (and some of them I respect immensely) has given nothing but good feedback and so I can only surmise that it is 'worth a read'.
You can get an audio version on Audible which is really well read.
Incredibly honest book. Painfully honest, I'm sure.
off to buy her book, infact any book she;s written, she is a woman I would like to see more of on TV, well anything really.........
Uh, excuse me Ms. Albertine but The Ramones and Blondie helped invent Punk. There 2 of the bands whom all of the UK bands emulated. Seriously?
What? !
Blondie wasn't even here until 1977. So how did they help invent punk which was already here in Britain.
Believe me, the Sex Pistols were getting spat at on stage in 76 well before Blondie were here.
Maybe it was different from NYC perspective
If you read Creem Magazine which was on the racks in the mid 70s you got to hear about the Ramones, Blondie, Television etc....
Billy Whizz the Sex Pistols were riding a wave already started by The Damned and Adam Ant
The context of the comment was Viv's conception of punk as "truth" or as a sort of personal authenticity. She was critical of the Ramones' aestheticization, which she saw as non-punk, and not their music. In fact, she earlier compared her memoir chapters to Ramones songs. So, I don't think she has anything against them. It's a weird thing to be offended by.
Personally, I'm okay calling Ramones punk, but getting all up tight about a punk "cannon" is silly and totally not punk.
Does anyone know why this bloke is dressed for a wedding reception happening in 1973?
That "bloke" was apart of the amazing Nation of Ulysses!
Oh and the group "Makeup"
Sounds awesome to me
cos thats what he wanted to wear, end of
he misses his childhood
suppose there's no shame in failure if you tried your best
did she tell the boy she was in the slits? lol
it's sorta odd to feel a failure when you're sitting there talking about yourself and you've attracted an audience a lotta peeps talking about their life wouldn't attract an audience lol
interviewer looks like david johansen
I'm a bit shocked by how much I disagree with Viv's recollections of England in 1976. "Hardly any music papers" - really? There was NME, Sounds and Melody Maker every week - nothing comparable appears weekly now. "Even young boys were not into music at a young age, like they are now." I was at school at the time and the majority of boys I knew were trying to learn instruments and start rock bands! From what I've heard, that's far less common now. "Getting three buses" to communicate with friends. We had 'phones then! "Not cool to be in a band"! People going to art school were considered "the dregs of society"!! The Ramones didn't "ring true"!!!
@ViscountVile Not EVERYONE could afford to have a phone, especially if you were squatting and you didn't necessarily have the money to use a phonebox, even if the person you wanted to get hold of had a phone as well. Being in a band was generally the domain of people from another world, another planet and it was 'punk' that was a main instigator of the line of thought that presumed otherwise, see Buzzcocks specifically (RIP Mr Shelley). Going to Art School was one of the main ways of avoiding employment and the burgeoning tedium of 'real life' for at least as long as you possibly could, or to buy you some time to think of something e;se to do. Not everyone had enough money to buy a music paper every week, I didn't. I raise you 4... ;-)
With respect, I think that you’ve misinterpreted some of her comments.
True there were three music papers where today there are none but in its place are many electronic publications, blogs etc; there are far greater outlets today to read about music than back then
Also communicating with friends back then wasn’t easy; you couldn’t just use your folk’s phone - often you had to meet them physically and on the odd occasion use a pay phone (pricey if you were still a kid)
"the dregs of society" is really her comment on how art school students were perceived by mainstream society not by her (who was an art school grad herself) . Similarly her opinion on how the Ramones dress didn’t ring true is just her personal opinion, nothing more
Yea music was massive for a lot of kids then.. I used to read the NME Melody etc we all new about the Punk thing even without hearing a note.. every week the NME, Melody Maker front covers were of Johnny Lydon walking down the Kings road with a can of beer in his hand or another punk band on the cover and this was all in the autumn of 76.
@@JohnnyFriendly You're definitely right. In another interview she said that she was deeply involved in music at the age of nine, mostly focusing on the lyrics. And that, for example, was the age she mentioned, when even boys weren't interested in music with a comparable intensity.
'' People going to art school were considered "the dregs of society"!! ''
Punk totally cared about society
The references to 'Rock and Roll' makes the presenter sound older than Viv Albertine. 'Rock and Roll' was the antithesis of punk.
horrid before the EU!