A Dying Persona 去りゆく人格
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Tiger-san is a representative of an extincting persona in Japan. He said he is heading to the great beyond. His friend tried to stop him from going, but he was determined, unable to change his mind. This is the last dialogue between Tiger-san and his friend in Japanese.
Kanama san’s theater club member imasu
IDK the full context or what kind of people he’s referring to, but I like this video, and I agree with the message of “if you’re going to be a bastard, at least be an honest one”.
i guess its referring to those personalities who have the gut to speak whatever in their mind to others, especially japanese being polite most of the time toward others even they arent happy about it, sometimes they have to express their feelings and true intentions in an implicit way, you can feel that "politeness" if youre learning the language
@@Ray_exe5805
Could be.
He's just referring to the fact that these types of rough, earthy personalities are a dying breed in modern Japan
@@felixb6
Then why Kaname use words like lecherous and greedy to describe them? Last I checked being honest and down to earth doesn’t mean being a creep or being desperate to hoard everything or something precious only to yourself.
EDIT: See 0:55
@@andreimircea2254 Because that's what the populace sees them as
Gotta love Kaname making these dialogues.
Tiger san forever in our hearts
Having lived in Tokyo for a year and a half so far I can say for certain I wish that more Tiger-san’s existed
しょうがないだろ...
I'm half Japanese, grew up in America, and my parents are older than typical parents of someone my age, so I actually watched a lot of the Tora-san movies at a young age! I didn't actually understand them, unfortunately. My mother may have been Japanese but my father could not even speak the most basic Japanese to save his life, so I ended up only learning English from my parents. ^^;
But now I'm learning Japanese slowly, from lovely channels like this one, and seeing that thumbnail was a real surprise! Like, when I see that hat and coat and blue shirt I feel instant nostalgia.
Tora-san is the best! A friend introduced me to one of his films earlier this year and it was so good and so sad because that persona is fading very fast.
thank you for explaining the context of this one, I'll have to go watch those movies now!
Same for the nostalgia! Tora-san just hits different. 🥲
タイガーさん。。。
お休み、優しい王子。お前の休息では天使たちが歌うように。
Tiger-san... 😔
RIP Tiger-san, you will be missed
Who's Tiger-san 😮
@@jean-tatlock26 From the video description: "Tiger-san is a representative of an extincting persona in Japan."
honestly i feel like these videos help me learn conversational flow quicker than any other videos ive found, short, quick, to the point, and i dont even have to understand every word. listening for words i do know and piecing together the words by association to the ones i know helps me personally so much, thank you sensei.
It’s an interesting conversation. I remember the first time I kind of conceptualized this was reading Natsume’s book Kokoro. I didn’t know about certain concepts like Meiji spirit, and how some chose to end it when the emperor died.
Generations come and go, and with it culture dies too, even it parts of it remain. It’s a shame that parts of our history are forgotten or rejected to “sanitize” our current culture. It’s like reading a poem or hearing a song from the past, yet some of the verses have been scrubbed out.
A polite society is important, but to have politeness, one must know what is not considered polite. Thank you for this lesson!
いきなりKANAME劇場が始まってゲラーゲラーわろてた。もう完全に役者ですやん。笑い。Tigerって名前とサムネの風貌から察するに寅さんが元ネタかな？笑い。ご存じない方のために補足すると、寅さんとは『男はつらいよ』という昭和に人気だった映画シリーズの主人公である寅さん(とらさん)のことです。流石このチャンネルと言ったらいいのか、英語圏の方でもご存じの方が何人かいらっしゃいますね。
honestly those are my favorit videos, because there is vocab, real convo, lips, pure voicing, acting.
this is really good, I m all for a 8h of this.
Let's do our best to invite Tiger-san's essence back into this world going forward 🙏🏻
tiger-san was demonetized too much on youtube.
Even society needs just the right amount of salt.
Bravo, Kaname-san! You are the court jester, telling the hard truth, when very few have the balls to do so. And, judging by some of the comments posted, the message of this skit flew right over the heads of those washed in the waters of contemporary do-goodism. Tiger-san is Clint Eastwood!
いつもお世話になっております。ありがとうございます。
I haven't lived in Japan but... Could the message be that there are too many rules and politeness in the contemporary Japan society, and it is lacking in free-willed people with a strong personality who are not afraid to be rude to others when they feel bad or don't like someone, or even to disregard feelings and problems of other people in pursuit of their own goals?
Nah you’re projecting your ideas about what Japanese society is, ideas that people who haven’t experienced nor understand Japanese society parrot incessantly
I think it refers more to people in general, worldwide (or at least in economically western countries) putting people's feelings or sensibilities before facts and truths, or basically censoring yourself and your opinions for the supposed benefit of others and the detriment that causes to one's self. I might be wrong.
No... You are correct. @@RT-qd8yl
@@RT-qd8yloh no, OP is right on the money. This is absolutely talking about Japan. The only thing I’d say is unrelated is “disregarding other people’s feelings in pursuit of their own goals”. That just sounds like being an asshole.
I live in the Kantou region (specifically Tokyo) and what tends to bother me the most is how unexpressive of oneself Japanese people tend to feel here, the the point it’s hard to make conversation beyond the basics (at least as a foreigner, Japanese or English, doesn’t matter).
However the further West and South you go people tend to lighten up with some of my best experiences being with people from the Kansai region like Kyoto and Osaka. ESPECIALLY Osaka. I’ll never forget how open and frank this one girl from Osaka responded when I asked her how do you like Tokyo? She straight up said “I hate it here.” It’s so hard to get a response like that with people from this region on similar topics.
@@NationX This is kind of what i'm thinking. If i ever go to Japan, i feel like i'd connect with people from Kyoto or Osaka much better than Tokyo. Or Okinawa perhaps, i hear they are pretty friendly, albeit with some rivalries/conflicts with people of big cities. Although Hokkaido and Sapporo are areas that seem interesting and i'm sure it's a different vibe from the much more urban/techy/centralized/international/etc... feel of Tokyo. Those are quite consitent patterns across the world tbh. In warmer, southern and/or country side area, people tend to be more warm and welcoming with a slower pace of life, whereas in the north it is colder, people are more reserved and more distrustful of strangers, but very loyal, cooperative and helpful nonetheless when you get on their good side. It's a natural sociogeographical phenomenon due to how the environment shapes the lifestyle of people.
😢😢😢 tiger-san... don't go
Kaname sensei just single-handed teaching Japanese with deep meaning dialogue. RIP Tiger-san
Every society has two types of people: Those who just want to be left alone and mind their own business, and those who won't leave them alone or mind their own business.
Personally, I prefer Tiger-san. He makes no pretense that he cares about you. The subway lady doesn't care about you either, she just likes the power trip of telling a stranger how they're allowed to act.
I appreciate Kaname for slowing this down for us :D, but I had to put this to 1.25x speed for this to feel like two different Japanese people naturally speaking to each other.
When I couldn't follow the conversation, that's when I felt like things were normal.
何となく癒される気分になるね~と思ったのに死んでしまいましたね😅
This is so out of the blue but it seems like two older couple are talking here. So sweet of them❤
When people are too nice and you can see them obviously bending over backwards to never risk being 迷惑 it can't be a good thing for them mentally I guess
I’ve always been in two minds about that. One one hand that culture is what keeps Japan in order and safe. Though on the other hand it’s what makes it hard to have a real conversation with anyone. A lot of conversations with Japanese people feel same-ish (日本語か英語か構わない) in the Kantou region but certain regions people are much more open.
Edit: Could also be the foreigner aspect too might I add
Just BRILLIANT! 🙇🏻♂
You're absolutely right, we do need people like Taiga-san in this day and age 🙏
Hm...some people still act like this, just mainly in a playfull way. So some of it is still here and hopefully will be
心に滲みるお言葉でした。タイガーさんのご冥福をお祈り申し上げます。
それと、かなめ先生は大好きです❤
Thank you, it was beautiful and unusual!
Can I ask you for the word 理屈 as the topic for the video? Also pretty interesting is collocation 理屈の上
I love Tora-San!
お疲れ様でした
I feel like it's best to strike a balance between the two, as with most things.
You don't fail to give quality topics, Kaname!!! I love all your videos
sensei has a fresh cut🫡
What a lot of great vocabulary!
Babe wake up, new Kaname just dropped
I enjoyed this a lot.
Kaname I had a dream that you were royally exiled and had to fulfill some princely duty in some epic quest or something and could no longer make any youtube videos and I was like "damn what am I gonna do now"
I don't know why I dreamt that.
髪型素敵だよ
I haven't seen "extincting" used before, I think 'on the verge of extinction', or simply 'vanishing' is more appropriate. English is a 2nd language for me, so thought I might help :)
Plot twist: his name is actually Tora-san. 🥰
Is this a reference to Tora-san?
I appreciate some of the messaging here around not completely being beheld to other people's expectations, but living in the United States, I think our society could use a healthy dose of "people need to be more considerate of others, and care more about how their behavior affects others" because too often, the norm here is that folks just do not care to think this way, and it feels absolutely awful.
いつもありがとうございます。
「わけ」のいろんな意味と使い方も教えていただけますか。
意味が分かりますが、なかなか使えせません。
よろしくお願いします。
Nice haircut! I'd think you'd have kept your hair long with all that snow around you. :)
タイガーさん ... didn't buy a ticket that day. 😢
As usual, your stories are hilarious!
I feel like the joke is that without Tiger-san, the friend is now the rude guy getting yelled at on the train for saying bad words.
❤Love it , Great beautifully done
先生、素敵な髪型だね
Nice tribute.
かなめ先生、江戸っ子バージョン
Don't worry, when I go to Japan, I will grow up to be just like Tiger-san!
I will probably never get to this level 泣泣泣泣
そう思うなるそうになるんじゃない？態度を直せばいいと思うよ
これほど話せるようになるなんて無理だよね。それでこそ、あえてなるのが立派な抵抗だと思う。
@@Tedisdeaad 熟練度は努力によるもの。あなたなら無理かもしれないが、それは不可能と違うんだ。
that is a self fulfilling prophecy. Do not let your mind think about what you "will never be able to do", just enjoy the language learning journey and keep at it.
それが素晴らしかっただよ
fun dialogue and I enjoyed the vocab. I always enjoy your skits
Fs in the Chat. man what a painful day
tiger-san.... rip to a real one
Extincting is a cool new word. Tigah-san is a 'dying breed'....not only in Japan, but in the U.S., as well.
freshhh cuttttt!かわいい
you cant just do this to me..where did he go? is he dead? tiger saaaaaaaan!!!
I love characters like this in fiction but in real life I think they're 迷惑。It doesn't take that much effort to pay attention to your surroundings.
I hear you Kaname 🙌
Why is this the last conversation with Tiger-san?! なぜ？これの意味は何？何これ？
Don’t go Tiger-san!
さらば、タイがさん😢
Could you do a video about all the Japanese onomatopoeia or at least the most common/useful ones if there are too many
Tiger-san put a dislike on this video
Don't worry. Just leave Japan, and you'll find lots of them.
面白い 😂
Tigersan comes out when kaname is 12 Sapporo’s deep!
You should have done Tiger in a demon lord voice.
男はつらいよ
kaname sensei so funny so handsome
You know, here in the USA we're a lot less polite with each other. For instance, there's no expectation to say "sir' or "ma'am" in most restaurants among the waitstaff. Customer service workers are encouraged to "round themselves off a little" and speak a bit more generically. Cursing is, of course, mostly unacceptable in those jobs.
But, to me, I see this "俺" personality as how a lot of American men are where I live (southern/midwestern USA). There's varying degrees of it, and while most men don't go around cursing in public past the occasional "damn" or "hell," we talk to other folks like we're very familiar with each other. Most of the time, we're all pretty open with our opinions, and often speak what's on our minds. In a workplace, there's a sense of brotherhood/fellowship among people working there. If you work in a restaurant for instance, you'll happily serve a customer and be very "rounded off," but then go to the back and talk shit with the other waiters on how annoying the guests are that night. The big exception is corporate office work where you have to walk on eggshells because companies are looking to cut you at any given opportunity, but that's another topic.
All that to say, we live half 俺 and half 僕/私 in the workplace, but in public, us American guys (for the most part) are almost all 俺. Not saying we're all John Wayne cowboys out here, but we don't often have to live behind a mask here. Shame it's not that way in Japan, because I think most people would like it if they saw more of it day-to-day, and it would embolden them to be more like Tiger-san.
男はつらいよ…
Now I'm a bit afraid of visiting. I'm a bona fide Tiger-san and I frankly don't give a flying fuck how impolite it paints me as, because I value true friends and not popular opinion. But do these types of people really don't exist anymore in Japan? I generally try to be respectful as I can be whenever I'm somewhere new because I know I'm an outsider but this actually...it makes me frustrated, coming from a place where this type of personality is the rule, not the exception. You gave me another reason to become fluent in Japanese - Be that bastard people can rely on. And yes, I'm not Christian but by their definition, I am a bastard hahaha xD
Kaname is schizoposting now???? this channel cannot possibly get better than this.
Nooooo
I'm guessing this is a reference to Calvin and Hobbes, or perhaps the anime Ushio and Tora.
can someone help me understand why この can mean "you" like この野郎 meaning "you idiot" and not "this idiot"
I think この can be used for emphasis. Don't think about it too much, that's just how the language works.
consider saying in English "this fucking guy" as an aside to emphasize that you can't believe how a person you're speaking to is acting. Not 100% sure that it's a case like that, but it feels similar from my experience
it's elliptical like an implicit は
The volume isnt working for me😢
Ah yes, the Americans trying to draw some parallel to their "woke" culture back home when he literally states that it's a meta-commentary about the death of Japanese individualism.
You're right... most Japanese people are by no means "woke"
nobody has to try to draw "some parallel" when it's the same thing
The persona of Tiger-san is disappearing in the United States as well. Here, we can be cancelled for speaking a certain way in public. While it's not as severe as in Japan, it's bad enough that one could suffer social consequences and even be fired just for calling someone an idiot when they're being an idiot.
Wow, what brought that about? A sudden fit of verbal diarrhea!
LOL i love tiger san's friend.
Insult the fuck out of him and expect him to stick around?
Nice sketch there. Not even sure who the villain is supposed to be in this short story. Well done.
P.S. this just sounds like a failure at gaslighting by idiots to me, that's my interpretation of the story.
Awesome, we'll send the Donald over to rule you instead of infesting the waters over here!
your videos would be a billion times more useful if you removed furigana and used literal japanese translations instead of natural sounding ones
I 100% disagree, one of the things I love about his videos is the natural translations, it makes me understand better when to use certain words and particles.
@@cantacarallada nothing stopping him from including both