As annoying as titan will be, theres more warlocks than titans rn, there electric slide will be more oppressive than Titan mele imo, that slide takes entire teams out casually.
GTFOH 😂 it’s counter-able. more times than not it puts you in a sht position to get team shot or shotgunned mid slide. Only time you get a 3 piece is if you get a kill on one person to proc the jolt and even so you still need to run synthocepts. Stop holding hands and it won’t be an issue
Prismatic warlock is definitely not as strong as titan. Warlock requires ppl to be stacked but titan just needs that initial kill and can then wipe the team.
Huckleberry buff: Gun performs the same as before, but now sustained damage triggers rampage and reloads the gun. The gun can pierce barriers at 3x Rampage. Kills trigger 1 kinetic tremor burst.
Smoke is still OP even with the faster detonation at 3.5 sec. Hunters still can throw it at you. Smokes ping radar still and also: blinds, weakens, deals damage, hide radar, and slows. Hunters aren’t going anywhere. 😅
I wish we could revert to when the meter was first introduced im genuinely sick of smokes and swarms and i main hunter I haven’t touched prismatic in a week thats how over that dumb class I am bro aside from the super i dont truly get the hype strand/solar hunter is completely better
No way all these Jim hunters complaining about the nerfs. I often forget most of the PVP community are degenerates that hate not being able to use the cheesiest loadouts.
@@ciguret that’s just Bungies fault. They overtune shit and release “fun” broken loadouts so that the community can abuse it and get their seasonal dopamine hit, until shit just gets boring like these clones and asks for nerfs. It’s not that hard to balance the sandbox out but bungie just overthinks it and ends up making changes to the wrong things.
So excited for the hunter nerfs. As someone who plays hunter consistently. I play stasis or solar. Majority of the time it’s so easy to tell someone has very little gun skill and game sense if they’re using broken ability spam. So excited for prismatic hunter krutches to get nerfed.
And for the guys going why do people cry about hunters literally every engagement with a hunter its freaking ability spam 70% of engagements with hunter is fighting swarm and smoke when that crap is nerfed into the ground and you’re back being exposed for your horrible gun skill what are you going to rely on? Then we’ll be fighting titan ice sickle 3 stacks which will really tilt everyone off the edge 😂
@@Tixrokbruh what?? 😂😂 tell me you don’t think. Maybe besides the grenade cooldown, the smoke is literally a gamblers dodge away. You don’t need strength for uptime which might be over 1 min for tier 10 vs a dodge next to a radar ping which is immediate refresh. Literally spec into mobility and you have dodge uptime and melee uptime very low Not even gonna talk about how you have a clone for protection and winters shroud to slow aping.. 😂😂😂
@@Tixrok its absolutely spammable but one hunter throwing these abilities is manageable. The problem is when its a team of 3 then theres no break to the madness
They just need to nerf Hunter Dodge in PVP. That shit is what enables you to get slowed, hit by threaded specter, and potentially hit by another smoke bomb all caused by 1 single ability use that recharges in like 20 seconds.
hunters without their ability spam are quite literally useless in crucible, they don’t ever shoot u unless they’re with other ppl or behind you that’s every game i’ve played
Frost, honest question: why not just use voidlock instead? Vortex nova is (arguably) better for pvp, better void grenades imo, and child does great at keeping ability uptime. The only thing (at least that I’ve noticed) you using on prismatic is helion and maybe some of the fragments doing different things.
I think he mentioned it in a video from last week, it's mostly because of the Helion. Void soul is fine but its not instant chunk damage and DoT, you have to send it out and half of the time if it does get sent out the enemy is already dead and just covers their orb. I'm sure some of the fragments are better neutral game as well (severing on head shots especially), while a lot of void fragments focus on very specific playstyles. Thats at least how I view it.
@@tylerviloria4699 He's still utilizing different portions of other classes, it's just limiting on warlock. Vortex is the only good area denial and instant damage grenade, and unless you spam the lightning surge the only 2 good melees are void and solar. I've said it before warlock is not built for pvp specifically, prismatic options show it.
@@secret1566imo child is sooo much better than hellion and tbh the void fragments r much better than prismatic ones. Also vortex grenade is probably one of the worst void grenades cos of the long cooldown.
Bro. You. Switched. To. Hunter. You did it because of the cheese and ease. It bails you out of bad plays and can make gunfights trivial. You know exactly why you switched to Hunter. All the hunters do to
These nerfs are the reason why destiny need a separation of pve and pvp stats long ago. Why does pve surfer so much every time something in pvp is way too over tuned. Best example is the exotic arms for tripmines, because it was toxic in pvp the armor got nerfed into the ground completely killing it in pve. If we dont get some kind of pve and pvp separation in the next destiny game if there is even gonna be one with situation of bungie right now. What ever destiny game it will be it wont last long. I think most of the community is just tired of the cycle seeing so many people playing other games now(they still play destiny just not with the same vibe to grind).
lol. now watch the titan meta return with all the stupid titan PvP exotics and prismatic titan…… we haven’t even been in this hunter meta for that long if you compare it to the old titan meta. People just love complaining I guess cause watch this titan shit is going to be worse. Mark my words
Because All the people they fired they left only hunter mains working on the game 😂 dead game lol what was there did it break 30k ppl playing in trials? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@IFrostBolt is crying every week, it's getting depressing at this point. Take a break, play something else and tell a therapist where the dirty Hunter touched you pls.
The dude with 3 videos in his channel is trying to talk trash about a guy that literally carries people to the lighthouse every weekend. Lol ok buddy. Sounds like a hunter crutch main.
Holy shit have we not been in a pretty titan dominated meta for the past year and a half with pk titans to over shield bubbles and ark titans not to mention the shoulder charge stuff too in top of it like that shit stayed so much longer than this lasted it’s lowkey sad to see people complain so much, don’t get me wrong tho hunter is too strong rn but like the switch up is ceazy
Why does everyone cry about hunters? Like, wtf?!! How about nerfing the titan ice spear that tracks you across the map and has a 12 meter damage effect area.
Bc no one 3 stacks and isn’t 45+% of the player base. Don’t get me wrong, getting a diamond lance for punching someone and then turning a 1v3 to a 1v1 is a lil cracked, but numbers don’t lie sadly
I'm sick of your constant bitching driving changes that affect pve because Bungie thinks you people should dictate the pve sandbox. Unfollow and unsubscribe.
@@prodigalsun1678 you clearly didn't read my comment or *or* Bungie's posts. Because of this whiny bullshit from streamer trash the nerfs affect both pvp and pve. So yeah, I'm sick of these crybabies running my experience because Bungie is too lazy to keep their promise of divided sandboxes. At this point get rid of pvp if they can't. The 10% Max of players that play out shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.
@@bodotron2759honestly, I think the dude didn’t even watch the entire video😂 even if they did, I don’t think they paid attention what he said about the changes lol
It's not about losing or anything bruh pvp has been so bad since prism hunter was introduced its like playing mayhem in regular control with prism hunter
Man I watched this shit live and I'm just sitting there going: Damn are we about to see Anticross AND Toxicbolt take over today?
That swarm nade at 29:07. 😂 Frost face.
30:06 Cross is never beating the warlock main allegations
my clan mate Special T was in this match. This was amazing to be able to watch and enjoy him being a flying pigeon... HALP Clan xD
As annoying as titan will be, theres more warlocks than titans rn, there electric slide will be more oppressive than Titan mele imo, that slide takes entire teams out casually.
GTFOH 😂 it’s counter-able. more times than not it puts you in a sht position to get team shot or shotgunned mid slide. Only time you get a 3 piece is if you get a kill on one person to proc the jolt and even so you still need to run synthocepts. Stop holding hands and it won’t be an issue
Prismatic warlock is definitely not as strong as titan. Warlock requires ppl to be stacked but titan just needs that initial kill and can then wipe the team.
Also prismatic warlock is probably only the 3rd best subclass on warlock. Solar and void r much better imo.
Bungie: we want primary gunskill to be the best factor in pvp
Also bungie: releases absolute broken subclass that breaks the game
Huckleberry buff: Gun performs the same as before, but now sustained damage triggers rampage and reloads the gun. The gun can pierce barriers at 3x Rampage. Kills trigger 1 kinetic tremor burst.
Smoke is still OP even with the faster detonation at 3.5 sec. Hunters still can throw it at you. Smokes ping radar still and also: blinds, weakens, deals damage, hide radar, and slows. Hunters aren’t going anywhere. 😅
Smoke should always ping radar. If it didn't you would have the issue of running into smokes with no idea where they came from.
With how much special treatment hunters get from bungie they’ll always be playing the game on easy mode
For a game famous for its amazing gunplay, it's so cringe never seeing straight gunfights. Much respect for not running hunter spam brotha.
Every hunter in bungie forums last season: BUBBLE TITANS ARE SO BROKEN!!! Every player now: DEATH TO THE HUNTERS!!! 🤣🤣
The Hunters get their turn.
Bubble was never broken the defensive style class is doing what its intended being defensive get good and cope
@@infiniteshades079the irony of get good while justifying hiding like a Bitch is pretty funny.
@@infiniteshades079 Spoken like a true Titan 😁😎
@@infiniteshades079 Everyone else hated it though. so it was broken in trials and just not fun to play. Kinda afk style
I wish we could revert to when the meter was first introduced im genuinely sick of smokes and swarms and i main hunter I haven’t touched prismatic in a week thats how over that dumb class I am bro aside from the super i dont truly get the hype strand/solar hunter is completely better
As a hunter myself I was always expecting a nerf but not in the pve sandbox
Last team showed why you don't bag early especially vs Frost n Cross lol.
Another spoonkid classic
Prismatic Hunters:
My goofy ass on arc warlock.
No way all these Jim hunters complaining about the nerfs. I often forget most of the PVP community are degenerates that hate not being able to use the cheesiest loadouts.
Pvp will never be balanced every meta gets nerfed then when a new one comes out ppl complain
@@ciguret that’s just Bungies fault. They overtune shit and release “fun” broken loadouts so that the community can abuse it and get their seasonal dopamine hit, until shit just gets boring like these clones and asks for nerfs. It’s not that hard to balance the sandbox out but bungie just overthinks it and ends up making changes to the wrong things.
I used titan with ace of spades and matador to secure my flaw this weekend it was more useful on this kinda map
So excited for the hunter nerfs. As someone who plays hunter consistently. I play stasis or solar.
Majority of the time it’s so easy to tell someone has very little gun skill and game sense if they’re using broken ability spam. So excited for prismatic hunter krutches to get nerfed.
And for the guys going why do people cry about hunters literally every engagement with a hunter its freaking ability spam 70% of engagements with hunter is fighting swarm and smoke when that crap is nerfed into the ground and you’re back being exposed for your horrible gun skill what are you going to rely on? Then we’ll be fighting titan ice sickle 3 stacks which will really tilt everyone off the edge 😂
And people thought Overshield Titan was bad 😅😅😅
The abilities are potent not spammable.
@@Tixrokbruh what?? 😂😂 tell me you don’t think.
Maybe besides the grenade cooldown, the smoke is literally a gamblers dodge away. You don’t need strength for uptime which might be over 1 min for tier 10 vs a dodge next to a radar ping which is immediate refresh. Literally spec into mobility and you have dodge uptime and melee uptime very low
Not even gonna talk about how you have a clone for protection and winters shroud to slow aping.. 😂😂😂
Those arguing this comment are hunters doing what he is saying.
@@Tixrok its absolutely spammable but one hunter throwing these abilities is manageable. The problem is when its a team of 3 then theres no break to the madness
You and Cross are the perfect team.
if they nerf hunter prismatic hard ill be able to go back to using arc
They just need to nerf Hunter Dodge in PVP. That shit is what enables you to get slowed, hit by threaded specter, and potentially hit by another smoke bomb all caused by 1 single ability use that recharges in like 20 seconds.
It’s the hit and run class. Everyone hates a camper, a runner, and a mf that has to rely on slowing you down or blinding you to get a kill with a gun
Hey frost what roll on that Hand canon
Rapid hit precision instrument if your talking his igneous hammer
@@kasanovakk8872 yes thanks
Get ur sponsorship links in the description brother
hunters without their ability spam are quite literally useless in crucible, they don’t ever shoot u unless they’re with other ppl or behind you that’s every game i’ve played
You guys cried about our helmet making them weak assa orbs and hunters been running wild since the DLC dropped 😂😂😂😂
Check the recent TWAB article. Hunters are being dealt with.
@@ZayOsirisGaming just need to adjust cooldowns and put the threaded specter on a bakris cooldown imo
What is that glowing orb right of your weapon?
That's hellion, it's a new solar aspect for warlocks, it shoots little fireballs at enemies🌝
U get it on a class ability cast
Frost, honest question: why not just use voidlock instead? Vortex nova is (arguably) better for pvp, better void grenades imo, and child does great at keeping ability uptime. The only thing (at least that I’ve noticed) you using on prismatic is helion and maybe some of the fragments doing different things.
I think he mentioned it in a video from last week, it's mostly because of the Helion. Void soul is fine but its not instant chunk damage and DoT, you have to send it out and half of the time if it does get sent out the enemy is already dead and just covers their orb. I'm sure some of the fragments are better neutral game as well (severing on head shots especially), while a lot of void fragments focus on very specific playstyles. Thats at least how I view it.
@@secret1566 that’s fair, idk I just feel like he’s not playing too much into the prismatic part of the subclass
@@tylerviloria4699 He's still utilizing different portions of other classes, it's just limiting on warlock. Vortex is the only good area denial and instant damage grenade, and unless you spam the lightning surge the only 2 good melees are void and solar. I've said it before warlock is not built for pvp specifically, prismatic options show it.
@@secret1566 also fair
@@secret1566imo child is sooo much better than hellion and tbh the void fragments r much better than prismatic ones. Also vortex grenade is probably one of the worst void grenades cos of the long cooldown.
What is shotgun please ? And roll
Bro. You. Switched. To. Hunter.
You did it because of the cheese and ease. It bails you out of bad plays and can make gunfights trivial. You know exactly why you switched to Hunter. All the hunters do to
Bro doesn't see a single ability and gets killed by a hc then says all he saw was clones and smokes lol
W vid as always tho!
is this bait lol
It's a joke all bungie staff must be Hunters easiest class to use broken as fugg supers
i miss nkuch and d1 when pc destiny didn’t exist :(
Feel ya man
hunters are crying on the comments, oof
These nerfs are the reason why destiny need a separation of pve and pvp stats long ago. Why does pve surfer so much every time something in pvp is way too over tuned. Best example is the exotic arms for tripmines, because it was toxic in pvp the armor got nerfed into the ground completely killing it in pve. If we dont get some kind of pve and pvp separation in the next destiny game if there is even gonna be one with situation of bungie right now. What ever destiny game it will be it wont last long. I think most of the community is just tired of the cycle seeing so many people playing other games now(they still play destiny just not with the same vibe to grind).
Stay oliveee!!!
l was waiting for the anticross and toxicbolt title..sad
Nice but no pic of new flavor!!!
Love it keep it up first 💯
As long as my frost ee5s stay untouched I don’t care what they do to prismatic, I barely use it anyway as I like stasis more.
So warlocks didn’t have the worst ability meta with void 2.0?🤣 one shot every grenade
lol. now watch the titan meta return with all the stupid titan PvP exotics and prismatic titan…… we haven’t even been in this hunter meta for that long if you compare it to the old titan meta. People just love complaining I guess cause watch this titan shit is going to be worse. Mark my words
They'll nerf hunters like they nerf hand cannons...they don't.
Thank goodness they're nerfing them.
Skill issue
@@ciguret yea get nerfd bozo
@@ciguretreal
Warlocks crying about hunters, 😂😂😂😂
Before this it was Titans and the OV shields. The broken ish rotates. Hunters turn
Literally getting nerfed next update chill out my boy
They've already been "nerfed" once.
We'll see.
We found a salty hunter.
Seriously change up the titles.
Because All the people they fired they left only hunter mains working on the game 😂 dead game lol what was there did it break 30k ppl playing in trials? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
who cares, game is trash
@IFrostBolt is crying every week, it's getting depressing at this point. Take a break, play something else and tell a therapist where the dirty Hunter touched you pls.
just mad you crutch hunter it’s alright lil bro
@@naylor7495 nah, been playin all 3 since D1S1, just getting tired of the negativity
The dude with 3 videos in his channel is trying to talk trash about a guy that literally carries people to the lighthouse every weekend. Lol ok buddy. Sounds like a hunter crutch main.
Holy shit have we not been in a pretty titan dominated meta for the past year and a half with pk titans to over shield bubbles and ark titans not to mention the shoulder charge stuff too in top of it like that shit stayed so much longer than this lasted it’s lowkey sad to see people complain so much, don’t get me wrong tho hunter is too strong rn but like the switch up is ceazy
Why does everyone cry about hunters? Like, wtf?!! How about nerfing the titan ice spear that tracks you across the map and has a 12 meter damage effect area.
Because most of the pvp player base is hunters compared to few titans
Diamond lance is strong, but you need an ability kill to even get it.
Bc no one 3 stacks and isn’t 45+% of the player base. Don’t get me wrong, getting a diamond lance for punching someone and then turning a 1v3 to a 1v1 is a lil cracked, but numbers don’t lie sadly
😂😂😂😂😂
Wait until you see the rise of Felwinter Warlocks.
I'm sick of your constant bitching driving changes that affect pve because Bungie thinks you people should dictate the pve sandbox. Unfollow and unsubscribe.
Nothing in this video pertains to pve and plus hunters are still good in pve maybe a change to the meta is due pass at this point
@@bodotron2759 they're referring to the incoming hunter tuning that's affecting both PVE and PVP
You have to be a hunter main if you think hunter didnt need the nerfs in pvp. Blame bungie for nerfing hunter in pve not the content creators
@@prodigalsun1678 you clearly didn't read my comment or *or* Bungie's posts.
Because of this whiny bullshit from streamer trash the nerfs affect both pvp and pve. So yeah, I'm sick of these crybabies running my experience because Bungie is too lazy to keep their promise of divided sandboxes.
At this point get rid of pvp if they can't. The 10% Max of players that play out shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.
@@bodotron2759honestly, I think the dude didn’t even watch the entire video😂 even if they did, I don’t think they paid attention what he said about the changes lol
Why does a streamer start crying when he loses or sees something wrong?
It's not about losing or anything bruh pvp has been so bad since prism hunter was introduced its like playing mayhem in regular control with prism hunter
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Same reason we all cry about it
Another spoonkid classic