FFP LOOPHOLE FOR THE TOON? | TRANSFER NEWS
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2024
- FFP Loophole For The Toon? | Transfer News Update
Welcome back to Toon Review, your go-to source for all things Newcastle United! In today's episode, we tackle the ever-persistent question: Can Newcastle navigate the Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations to bolster their squad post-takeover?
Since the monumental change in ownership, Newcastle fans have been eagerly awaiting big-money signings. However, FFP restrictions have seemingly put a damper on the Magpies' ambitions. But could there be a glimmer of hope? We delve deep into the complexities of FFP and uncover a potential loophole that might just provide Newcastle with the opportunity they've been waiting for.
But that's not all! Stick around as Paul brings you the hottest transfer news from around the footballing world. From blockbuster deals to surprising rumours, we've got you covered with all the latest updates.
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No way we should pay BRANTHWAITE 75m thats madness, he is not at that level and definitely not worth that price, guaranteed to get a non English CB just as good if not better for 40-45m.
I watched BRANTHWAITE play against united and he was absolutely lost, made 2 tackles the whole game and got a sofa score of 2.7, not for me.
I have to disagree on Manures available money, Man united made 648 million in turnover in the past year, they can definitely afford him and they are stupid enough to pay over the odds to get whoever they want, we have seen this time after time 80m for Anthony, 70m for a 30yo Casemiro etc. and daddy Jim will probably put his hand in his pocket to make it happen.
Played against united??? You need to specify which one? Can't believe there are supposed toon fans calling them that.
Jesus, thank you for confirming who Onana is. At first I thought you meant Man U’s goalkeeper, and I nearly had a nervous breakdown and soiled my pants.
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Me too!!
Sean Longstaff to stay for me. Watched the Sheffield United's version of their extended highlights and Sean was everywhere - nice little intercepts and blocks - great link up play and helped create some nice attacking options...
He just needs a break to get fit but I think he will be a great squad rotation player!
The systems seriously flawed when teams are encouraged to sell their home grown players.
Rips the heart and soul out of a club
Andy Carroll was a fantastic bit of business he turned shite straight after 😂
I thought the same!
This isnt a loop hole its the point of profit and sustainability rules.
I hope Leeds go up in the playoffs. Theyre keen on Longstaff and for 15M I'd drive him there myself. To be clear though I'd be thanking him for his last couple of seasons for the whole 90 minute drive.
I would even give u the fuel money haha 😂👍
I’ll pay for the rental car lol
Let me check the fluids and tyre pressures before you leave
Mothers making a packed lunch
FFP is an absolute disgrace.
A star striker would be nice,but expensive.topping the squad up with quality free transfers is a must in my opinion CB RW and back up GK
I’m a Longstaff fan. I think a break, some recovery time and rotation he will come back much better. People forget that he has been playing pretty much weekly which is tough on box to box players. He does need some shooting practice though.
Great news just through about Tonali… 2 month suspended ban and £20000 fine.. thank god for that, can’t wait to see him back!
Hopefully without all the worry of gambling ban hanging over him, he might be back to the level he was at Milan, as he was pretty average for the few games he did play
love the new hair paul
Honestly going against the consensus here but I would want to keep Sean over freeing up the comparatively small fee we'd get for him. Its a marathon not a sprint and having local lads in the dressing room is more important than having an extra 15mil in the bank. Sounds wild saying that but in todays market that is a pittance. On top of that, he seems like a sound lad who is literally living every young geordies dream, seeing him score in the UCL at St James made me more proud than I think I've ever been of someone I literally have never met.
People are forgetting we want the geordies playing for the badge. Longstaff is being thrown under the bus. Howe knows how good longstaff is…better than anyone else. I would prefer local lads playing
It's under the bus mate and he's shite to slow.
surely longstaff worth more then 15 mill? 26, prem lg experience. Deffo not sure about paying 75 for branthwaite
Great video paul 👍 I personally think we should keep longstaff as a squad player I really don't think he's worth much value wise and we know what a fully fit Sean can do! Aslo I might be wrong but didn't man united want him years ago for 50m?
i think thats what we (or the fans) wanted for him, I cant imagine ashley turning down 50mill.
Could the Saudi pro league be convinced Paul Dummett is worth 40m ? I think a striker needs to be our top priority Sesko is a very good option with Miley stepping up this season I am less concerned about adding numbers in midfield upgrading would be nice thought but I think we may struggle as we still have to pay for hall this summer I really think a young rb is needed Krafth is a big step down from trippier and Liveramento and Trippier won't be around much longer I think selling almiron and replacing him with Minteh may offset some of our worries financially though a CB is also a must we have 4 cbs but burn is used as a lb so really we don't have much redundancy.
What r you talking about??? Liveromento will be our right back for the next few years especially once Trippier leaves or retires!
@@cockneytintin yes but we need backup for him
😂😂😂😂
Šeško or Zirzee would be exciting
Thx for the info Paul 👍👍..... I can see Almiron Longstaff Murphy Target Kraft & Dummet leaving.
Which is sad but necessary.
Chuck in Wilson & Dubravka and that could raise £60 to £80 million (times 5 for amortization) in transfer funds. That wouldn't be bad, eh?
I’m confused. If we sell a non local player for £30m, we don’t get to spend that £30m when we want to and in compliance with FFP?
no because you have to take into consideration how much you paid for that player in the first place ie you buy for 30m over 5 year deal each season his value drops by 6m so if you sell him 3 years later there is still 12m left over sell for 30m you only gain 18m to buy a new player etc
Depends if he has time left on his contract.
yup we cant completely use 30 .
Think it’s time for Longstaff to go for me as we have Miley instea as Tonali backup. 15-20mil sell to Leicester or Leeds, or swap deal with Leeds for Archie Gray. Need to sell Willock as well for me as too injury prone and can’t rely on Achilles as it’s gone 3-4 times this season and we have Anderson as back up to Big Joe.
Sell to Saudi get him rested and buy back cheap win win
Can't be sentimental about players.
75mil for Branthwaite, not for me. Better value on the continent imo
We have quality now for sure
Cheers for the update mate.
On one hand... you want players who play for the shirt...and who better than a Newcastle fan -
That being said,if last season is a peak for Sean,then we know what will happen long term anyway -
The only other thing I would add in regards to Sean...is what with our numbers being so reduced this season,including his own ongoing 'injury' he hasn't had to fight for his place either...he knows he's gonna play week in week out.. and that undoubtedly lowers your motivation a little as well.
Do I think we will sell him? No.
Eddie loves Longstaff...weve all raised our eyebrows hearing Eddie quote things like "sean has an incredible footballing intelligence"
And no matter how bad a game he has... even with options available,he won't take him off.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's offered a new deal,and I dont think im alone in this assumption,but "you never know in football"
I can see Miggy & Longstaff both going maybe Wilson too. So id go for a Goalscorer and a winger.
Great stuff as usual. Longstaff sale makes total sense.
There is no homegrown loophole. Any player you buy is spread over 4-5 seasons due to amortisation, however, any player you sell hits the current seasons accounts. The benefit of selling home grown players is the pure profit you make.
I believe when you sell a player you need to deduct any outstanding amortisation amount for that player from the sale price and whatever is left hits your current seasons accounts.
So as an example if we decided to sell Tonali this summer and got £60m and we still had £50m on our amortisation we’d only see a benefit of £10m on this years accounts.
Selling a homegrown player means you have zero amortisation on your books so the entire sale amount hits your accounts.
It doesn’t have to be a homegrown player though, if we sold Mintey for £50m we’d have nearly £45m hit our books as he only cost £7m.
Also someone like Almiron has been at the club so long that he’s dropped off our amortisation figures so anything we sell him for hits our accounts straight away.
If we sell Bruno for £100m (and I don’t want it to happen) then we’d wipe the remaining £25m from our amortisation figures and have £75m hit our accounts this season.
I don’t particularly like it as it allows clubs like Chelsea to abuse FFP but selling players always have had an immediate impact, it’s the only reason Chelsea haven’t broken FFP for the last 2 seasons.
Hello thanks for explaining you seem to know what you talking about. So if we sold Longstaff and Almiron got £40m would that mean we could spend £200m?
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t. You could do that because this seasons share of the amortisation for £200m would be balanced out by the £40m we’d receive from Almiron and Longstaff.
It’s just very risky as next year you’d need to find another £40m extra, same the year after and so on.
Our owners could have stretched our budget every window like this but they’ve said they don’t want to take a risky approach so I don’t they’ll start now.
What you’ve described is basically what Chelsea have done, they sold £200m in players and spent huge amounts on their new players, their sales covered last season but the hope was they’d do far better in the league and get CL football but because they haven’t they need to sell more players to cover their high amortisation fees.
It could come back to seriously bite Chelsea so although id like us to spend more I think the owners approach is the sensible way
Personally I feel like Sean Longstaff’s been a bit of an unsung hero this season. He’s been playing through injections for this team for months on end because everyone else is injured. Okay he’s played woefully in a lot of games but he’s injured too. What do people expect?
I agree with you on longstaff
I would say Branthwaite at 75m is a bit to much for us at the minute when we could potentionally need a striker. Also a midfielder if Longstaff leaves as well as reports saying Saudi club could come back in for Miggy
its not a loophole, it's what ffp is. it's not just homegrown, but any player that is signed on a free
It's a common misconception that selling academy players is "a loophole" for FFP. It's not It's players with bo book value. Sure academy players have no book value but neither do players who have been here for years like Miggy, Wilson etc
Longstaff to Saudi for £30m sounds reasonable to me. Can we sell Gillespie for a few quid?
Howe likes Onana. If we can rotate Joelinton and Onana then Joelinton can stay fit.
Think selling Longstaff makes absolute sense, shame to sell on home grown players but it is the way it is in this FFP world. Also sell Miggy and Wilson, maybe even Targett or Trippier if we can and replace with Hall/Livramento/Minteh/Harrison type players who will be high risk/high reward, 2-3 free transfers and one star to replace Wilson. Let go of Ritchie and Dummett.
My worry for the future is the likes of Elliott Anderson and Lewis Miley being used less with players being preferred to them and first team games becoming less available. Would they be happy in such a situation. Signing players above them is a concern of mine.
Let's go Paul!
No way that much for Branthwaite Ignacio or diomande instead and probably cheaper than him
I’m an evertonian and obviously branthwaite will be sold this summer, but unfortunately he won’t be going to the toon, as much as I’d love him to go there. Apparently it’s between Man Utd and chelsea
Take the free transfers and use the money on Sesko
75 mil is a NO NO - Onana is a yes
The home grown player rules are why I keep banging on about developing the academy as a matter of priority. Chelsea and Man City have funded their ridiculous spending by selling their academy products.
yeh but they have been doing it for over 10 years we need it now and it wont happen hence why we can only just keep buying to go forward until we can get an academy to compete
Much as I like Branthwaite £45m tops is more realistic. Get Tosin in and Lloyd Kelly until Botman and Lascelles are back. That would give us Tosin, Kelly, Schar, Burn with Botman and Lascelles when they come back. Need at least 1 or 2 keeper/sweepers and that is a fair defence.
Sell Longstaff as I think he is now not needed. A midfield of J7, Bruno and Tonali backed up by Willock, Anderson and Miley is, in my opinion one hell of a midfield.
A decent striker as backup for Isak or 2 if Callum goes.
By the way Paul have you noticed Tonali has got a £20k fine and 2 months suspension with the suspension to run concurrent with the Italian ban. They said this was he had given himself up and cooperated with the tribunal fully in an unprecedented way.
Any player that Isak has put on the floor, im not interested 😂😂
To be fair it means nothing , Chris wood put our whole team on the floor but we still rate our players
Isak could put Bekenbaur on his arse!
@@k.a.n.e8636 and anyone that Chris Wood put on the floor needs to be sold 🤣
Although longstaff has been quality in the past he would 100% be first out the door for me. Hes been a shadow of his former self for a couple of seasons. If he does go i would wish him every success but hes not what we need going forward.
I'd sell everyone who is not first team standard. I'd even sell Sean on Ebay if I could.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
With Home grown players its the UEFA club rule for European competition that hits us. We have to have 4 players who spent 3 entire seasons or 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21 at Newcastle in the A squad and 4 players who spent 3 entire seasons or 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21 at any English club. This seasons CL squad we only had 23 man squad as we only had 2 players that met this club rule Longstaff and Dummett. If we were in Europe next season then potentially we would have 4 players L Miley Anderson White and Longstaff that would meet this rule. Selling home grown talent is something that is not new and another boost to PSR is where you have paid off a player and his amoritisation no longer appears on the PSR accounts you also get pure profit. Effectively if you sell a player if you have any amortisation payments left to pay or you have payed any in the PSR period this has to be deducted from any amount you sell him for as essensially this appears in the accounts that are used for PSR calculations. With Home grown player or a player whos transfer fee has been paid off outside the PSR window then there are no fees left over from buying him so when you sell him you get all the money hence term pure profit. I would consider selling Longstaff if we needed the cash to improve the squad and we would only lose 1 UEFA squad place. Braithwaite for £70M is too much. Would rather go for Huijsen at Juventus would probaly cost £25-£35M although PL unproven has played in Serie A which is more defensively orientated and is probably a better prospect then Braithwaite (Jose highly rates him and hes no mug) for 1/2 the price. The money left over could then be used in other areas
Yes. In a heart beat
Would you sell Botman if it guaranteed funds to bring in Branthwaite & Diomande?
Sean Longstaff did not nearly break his leg against Everton. Tarkowski nearly broke it but failed. DH!
Any video coming up about the new style ffp rules ?
Once the season has ended, it will be done during the summer shows.
I wonder if Longstaff would rather stay at Newcastle and ride the bench or be sold somewhere else where he gets to play 1st team?
What makes everyone think we have no money the owners have done this since the take over it’s misdirection. we will have money and we will spend some.
now it has been mentioned i am sure the premier league will prevent this from happening in an emergency vote!!!
HELL NOOOOOO , 15 mil, you’re not getting anything near Sean for that amount, give him a rest and we’ll be fine
It's not a case of only having the 15 mil to spend though. You can send more than what you get for them. Also, you will hardly ever be able to enough for an average player, to be able to buy a better player.
If a good offer comes in for Longstaff - who knows
Sponsor for the stadium. £30 million
we'd be mad to sell Longstaff - he's so under-rated by so many of the toon fans - we need depth - and a geordie who is experienced and will play his heart out for the club is exactly the sort of player we should keep to maintain the squad depth. He's played almost every game this season without being able to be rested to return to full fitness and we are still fighting for europe. With better midfield rotation when Tonali is back and everyone is fit Longstaff is very valuable.
Go get Tosin and sell Longstaff as home grown and replace with Onana and replace Almiron with a quality right sided forward then go get a quality goalie to push Pope, job done this summer.😂
£30 mill is too much, but I think £15 mill is not enough. £20 to £25 mill?
If it comes to it, who would you replace him with, on the understanding, we have a great squad when all fit.
Why not Bruno,Anderson,miley
No longstaff isn’t a good squad player because he isn’t good enough he needs to leave to raise funds
We need a CDM so selling longstaff and unleashing Bruno would be good
Anderson, Miley and Willock as backup to starting 3 midfielders so I'd take the money for Longstaff and bring another youngster through aswell
How ridiculous is it though that clubs have to sell home grown players to try and get ahead 😡
I would keep Longstaff, if he would only command a fee of £15m, then he couldn't be replaced for that amount, so for me he would be a half decent squad player.
Paul mind reading to perfection 😂😂😂
This isn't a loophole this is common knowledge that's been in place a while
15 mill....not worth it...might as well keep him.
My Newcastle Team for next season would be:
GK's
Nick Pope
G.Mamardashvili (New Signing)
L.Karius
CB's
Fabian Schar
Sven Botman
Dan Burn
Tosin (Free Transfer)
Ossmane Diomande (New Signing
P. Dummett
Left Back's
Lewis Hall
Lloyd Kelly (Free Transfer)
Right Back,s
Trippier (Captain)
Tino Livramento
Harrison Ashby
Midfieiders
Sandro Tonali
Bruno G
Joelinton
Lewis Miley
Joe Willock
Elliot Anderson
Amadou Onana (New Signing)
Wingers
A.Gordon
H.Barnes
Yankuba Minteh
Arda Guler (New Signing)
Strikers
Isak
B.Sesko (New Signing)
C.Wilson
I like Branthwaite but I think he's a bit overpriced at around 75m and there's better options out there in Europe. I'm a big onana fan though and would take a deal all day which saw us replace Longstaff with him for 50m or so.
I think Longstaff is worth more than 15 million Paul
I think he does better when we have our best on the park big Joe, BG etc ... I think he would be a great squad player ... id rather we try and sell Miggy and get rid of some of the others first ... but that being said SL unfortunately if he was sold he is not the player you will go damn what a loss ... marque needs to be the money but also the player who incites wow ambition a top striker, top attacking winger ...
Would like onana 75m bit steep for Jared
I do like the idea of Sesko, I don't think he'd be 2nd choice either. I'd love to see Isak play that no.10 role more often, you can see in certain games he drops deeper to make things happen. There is this argument that Howe doesn't play a 10 but you can see Isak do this when needed from time to time.
I would love to see Braithwaite at Newcastle. I know the fee is ridiculous, but when Man U & Real are interested clubs know they’re silly with their money. However, both Burn and Schar are the wrong side of 30 & Brathwaite has Premier League experience. We might have to bite the bullet on this one and pay up, as City did with Stones.
Is Sesko even ready? only been there a season
Yes, Longstaff needs selling. Trouble is, he's not Premier league quality. Championship level at best, so we won't get much for him.
Branthwaite....no way at 40+
The idea is you sell a hg player that boosts your turnover for that season. You then buy a player whose transefer is amortised over the length of their contract.
Problem is next season and the season after etc...
It's a short term fix that can get you into real long term problems.
Unless you have a conveyor of good hg players coming through it's a bad idea.
If we lose Sean, we need another right sided midfielder. With Sandro out untill october, we need someone on the right to hold it down as Joelinton/Anderson/Willock are all better on the left. Either we see a big step up from Lewis Miley, or well need someone in Seans place until Sandro returns
The selling home grown players has been used for years by the likes of City , Chelsea and the rest of the EPL , hence why Chelsea HAVE to sell Gallagher in the summer to stay within FFP just like they sold Mount last season
Would you say nicky but was an "elite" player. He won the treble with man u. Filling a team with "elite" players DOES NOT WORK!. Real madrid tried that with the galactose.
If Real Madrid bring in Mbappe, then that stymies any other big signings for them, surely? (Even with the way they get specially treated)
How would we feel about 40-50m for elliot Anderson if someone came calling?
Never get that much for him at the minute.
Miggy out Minteh in Wilson Dubs and Cashworth that’s a canny kitty if we sell them 3 and get rid of the dead wood
Hiya Ditchey, its about time the premier league done something right for Newcastle, instead of giving it to the cartel clubs, one day Newcastle will be up there with the Manchester City's and Arsenal's of this world, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
Longstaff favourite player Eddie Howe.. not for sale
if everton have lost their investors (understand 777 are having some financial issues and might not pass the Priemer league tests) they may have to sell players to balance the books, so we could get him cheaper?!
I’d happily let Longstaff and Anderson go if that means we can get two first team players in.
No loyalty needed if that could be the difference between winning a trophy or not.
Big money should be spent on new keeper, Tosin on free, a number 6, and a young Striker/RM to back up to Isak and Wilson, id sell Miggy, Dubz, Targett, Fraser.
Noway should we be paying that. Dioamnde is twice the player and apparently he’s available for 55-65 million.
I know some on here rate Longstaff but I would sell him tomorrow
How many times has Branthwaite been dumped on his backside this season? Not for me thank you the others are "interesting" for sure, sorry and all that, but thanks Sean and all the best at your new club
I’d love our marquee signing to be a RW.
Too much money for Branthwaite considering he plays in Botman’s position.
Longstaff - meh - either way whatever. Although please don’t give him another 3 year deal!
as per usual threw it away again i worried for wednesday now
Joelinton will miss chunks of games next season. He’s becoming slightly injury prone now. Still an important player for the next couple of years.