DANTES VS. AGURIN | WHO IS THE BETTER JUNGLER? (TARZANED VOD REVIEW PART 2)
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2023
- DANTES VS. AGURIN | WHO IS THE BETTER JUNGLER? (TARZANED VOD REVIEW PART 2)
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Just wanted to say, irrespective of the Dantes/Agurin aspect, this type of VOD review of one top tier jgl reviewing another is really cool and good content.
Agurin said he kited away from heca in order to prevent the Phase Rush proc, which is insanely smart.
Bro just used common sense? How is that being insanely smart? XD
@@tasu7245 sorry mister challenger player, not everyone keeps in mind enemy runes and current phase rush counter mid fight and decides to not directly follow and back away instead to prevent phase rush from procking
@@vexjujinko4554 then you’re ass, if you’re going someone like Darius using conqueror and are using a weak champ like Aatrox early, obviously you’re not going to fight him, that also applies to Hecarim because with his phase rush, he gets more AD the more move speed he has
Abnormal smart its tesla smart its alien smart the smartest of the smartest hyper smart 500 iq
@@tasu7245 U ever seen any streamer/player in your game do that?
Agurin: multi-season Rank 1 EUW / EUNE, Challenger Korea, current Rank 1 Korea ; Dantes: Occasionally Challenger NA, 1 time Challenger EUW
Challenger Euw for 1 day and dropping 200 lp the next day
@@Boost400 but he's a better streamer
Challenger EUW after transfering account 55 times to abuse LP gains
@@nuky_999 Fair point! I forgot about that tbh, I don't really watch him he just shows up in other streams at times.
And you’re silver
This is really informative. I hope you're able to get Agurin to do a vod review of this game with you. That would be awesome.
Isn't it funny how Dantes says not understanding the difference between proactive and reactive jungle means that you are just not part of high elo jungling, but Rank 1 NA jungler Gryffin and Rank 1 EUW jungler Agurin completely disagrees with him and says the concept does not exist at all
Also funny that he says player like Canyon and him have to look at all while Canyon is playing with locked Camara.
@@jhjgjhgkhf902 Just goes to show that even the gap between the top 0.001% and the top 0.00000001%, the Dunning Kruger effect can still exist.
Agurin is not rank 1 EUW jungler lil bro
@@ferand_0948 Use critical thinking and you may come to realize that I was referring to their consistency at reaching Rank 1, big bro.
@@ferand_0948 true rank 1 korea :D
Love Dantes and haven't watched Agurin ever but Agurin is Rank 1 KR bro how is it even a question?
Bro its early split season, and MMR is doomed. The Rank 1 before split ended was 1940 LP go check rank 1 LP now.
He has to maintain top 10 for 1 month to validate rank
@@nazirzahouri4160who tf are you? why is a platinum timmy invalidating rank 1 korea????
@@nazirzahouri4160 ??? hes 800 lp up on dantes with a higher winrate how does that have anything to do with mmr or early split
@@nazirzahouri4160 agurin was also rank1 euw for a long time, he doesn't have to validate anything lmao
Content, nothing else
Agurin > Tarzaned > Dantes
Tarzabed>All no questions asked
@@AryanGenetics GOATZANED
we need jaymo's opinion on this
Agurin just hit 1 Rank in Korea so I guess it's settled haha.
Isn’t it too early to say “rank 1” tho since it’s the beginning of the season
@@Areanthoshes hit rank 1 once that’s enough and he will hold it too
@@jnb2903 that’d be cool
@@Areanthos Rank 1 on Korean Server is a ginormous feat no matter the time in the season, its rank 1 either way and dantes is still struggeling to get anywhere near that on korean server either way
@@Areanthos kinda early yes.. but dantes wont be able to hit chall in korea i think.. and even if he does. agurin is way better on any server they play.
Bro its not even close, nobody should even be asking that question. The zaned needs to ego check dantes since the 80% winrate got to his head. Take care of your son.
he did
He is 59 per cent now XD
@@goncalooliveira2675 57% and dropping...
bro hit em with take care of your son lmaoo
@@EstyD2which steam was it?
Talking with Agurin and asking about his plays would make more sense, than calling everything a missplay. Maybe you could learn something from it.
I think both that Agurin misses things Tarzaned sees and that Tarzaned misses things Agurin sees can be true
For sure but in a review you can see more then in game. But i think they should go in a call because tarzaned can learn from agurin. I think all bad things agurin do (when he do some) he see them by his own when he watch the replay.
Honestly, I don't think Dantes stands a chance against Agurin, he's insane at this game. That being said, hopefully he proves me wrong, it would be incredible content!
He already lost bro
@@ambufn6504 how?
cause dantes is stuck gm and agurin literally did hit rank 1😂
@@claudeheinrich3613 dantes played more games has a lower winrate and hes master while agurin hit rank 1...
@@claudeheinrich3613 dantes won agurin after that
at 16:27 he reset after red so that he would have enough gold for cdr boots
only legitimate comment ive read so far
These VOD reviews of high level games are really interesting and informative and i really enjoy them. Maybe we can get more VOD reviews about other high level players? Would love to see it
Now we need Agurin vod review of The zaned.
It actually is an Infinite content glitch
Nah he definitely will, watched the stream from agurin on this exact game and he explained alot of his decisions which completely contradict tarzaned but were still the right play.
he just did it.
Dantes is not even 50% as skilled as Agurin bro 💀
this game they were both bad
@@tristanoce5233mental
@@tristanoce5233 can't say both were bad if it was 2-13 at 8 minutes 💀💀
He dropped Herald early because the Minion wave was dying, he would've then had to walk back out of tower range with sylas and clear the incoming wave. Probably was worried the enemy would arrive mid before the tower went down if he did that so he just dropped Herald (didn't get tower anyways, 4 plates still good though)
Thats nonsense ur talking he sees 3 enemys botside and poppy top side and galio is dead for 18 secs, why not walk out? He literally trolled by putting it that early
@@mihailovukovic5367 Literally trolled? Safe plays like not overstaying with rift are why he's rank 1 in Korea right now.
Next wave crashes in five seconds lol
@@luukas2660I mean he spent more time because he didn’t walk out, which meant walking out to clear wave before dropping rift was actually the safer play
@@luukas2660even the best still make mistakes, and this is decidedly a mistake that any jg above gold will be able to point out. It's fine to be a filthy meatrider but think for yourself sometimes bro
Really good content, theres so many insane games in korea right now with the inavders woud be great to see more of them reviewed.
very interesting video would like to see more like this mr zaned
Ahhh hell yea thank you for the vod review!
was a really good video, thank you for your work
Rly nice and interesting comments! I like your content lately alot, your gameknowledge is awesome!
i could be wrong, but i think agurin stopped playing perfectly when he realised the game was over anyway
love the vod reviews tarz
Tarzaned needs a coaching session from agurin himself it seems :) he said he is going to na at the end of this year to make everyone from na to stfu
agurin vs tarzaned will be so interesting
@@yannick4382 It really won't be. I love them both but agurin is worlds ahead. Rank 1 EUW and eune every season at the same time, and close to rank 1 korea every time he bootcamps there.
@@Dave-sc2eyagurin actually hit rank 1 today on Korean server
@@ProGamer9800 it's early season but yea, It doesn't mean nearly as much right now as later on. Rank 1 is like 800lp right now, normally that's way higher.
@@ragegaze3482 yeah true and Dante’s ist stuck in low masters atm I think that pretty much answers the question of the video
the krug was becuase the respawn timers were to close for his liking if heca can interupt him. J4 doenst oneshot heca and if he looses the camp plus time spent and might die or loose flash is too risky when he is ahead by 500 gold already
at level 3 agurin dodged hecarims phase rush was really well played
In the beginning, around 5:30 in you video. After scuttle.
Agurin doesnt play it slow. He avoided the autoattack by keeping the distance so Dante can’t procc phaserush
maybe you can review Agurin's game he played to hit Rank 1 in Korea, that one was definitely much more interesting! Also, love the content man
only just clicked on the video, but thanks for making this. really wanted to see the zaned input to games i've watched live :)
Would love to see you analyse their second game against eachother. 🙌
This Is The Jaymo Effect Guys.
Tarzaned playstyle is pure coinflip gaming . Im not a hater as he said high risk high reward.
Why did you choose this picture of Agurin 8D
The thing you don’t understand tho is that Dantes proactively inted his brains out while agurin reactively took the easy lp. lul
Great video but when are you dropping the graves skin tier list?
At 19:49 the reason why agurin drops the herald at 3.5k was to tank the tower cause the minions died. I dont know if tarzaned missed this or if he thought sylas and jarvan could had tanked the tower.
am i tripping or was nobody arround them so they could have just walked out of turret range ?
While true, it'd have been faster to back off, wait for minion wave, drop herald at appropriate turret health, than dropping it that early
no bro, Tarzaned was saying to just walk out, wait for minions, drop the tower down a little bit more and then place it. The last plate of the tower takes longer to kill with auto attacks, so you want the herald to break that part. It would be faster to wait for minions.
@@MinoG3030its soloq sylas was not walking out so agurin would had to Tank tower then e q out, loses mana and hp so the top lane kill after coudnt have happend
@@bee6508 XD?? Sylas wont walk out of turret range without minions if agurin backs off?
Idk but from watching agurin i can explain to you everything you said is a missplay, lasthitting monsters cuz 1hp bug krugs over red cuz jungle pathing is better + red not needed, Herald cuz no minions and he doesnt want to Tank since he does a top lane play after etc? U didnt see phase rush outplay too? And wtf u mean by overfarming xd?
It's okay to be a fanboy. Rank 1 korea can still misplay and that is the point of this video. Everyone can always play better.
@@Tarzanedwhy always Fanboy😂. Its just normal criticism
now we hope agurin reacts to this
Second video I watch of you, and it's also great. I'd love to see your vod on the second game they had, hope you can comment that one too.
Neace still better than both of them. Neace SUPREMACY
Discussion closed. Reopen if Dante hits Rank 1 in Korea
Easily augurin Is Just much Better at pretty much everything
Dr.Zaned is too funny man. Talking about some of the best players in the world as if their silver. Love this content man, please do more vod reviews
Mental
Found his analysis rather lacking too which is another red flag for me aside from his ego.
Part 3 with the rematch please! Thanks tarzaned
LOl so TARZANED can do some more hating , telling him to EQ instead of seeing that its down and he has to ult instead. yea, no thanks. Or that he probably ahve the wrong skin too, everyone can find mistakes in ALL games, i can do that too lol
@@tommigunn16 eu hater
agurin reacted to this and basically disagrees with everything..cant wait to see you tear it apart
How does Dantes think he didnt get jungle diffed this game xD
I don't think Tarzan has a chance vs him. Even in his peak, Agurin is playing no risk game, and Tarzan is talking about risky stuff that most of the time he lost his own games because of it.
they played against eacher other again after this match and dantes won
Agurin is obviously better than Dantes.
Don't get me wrong I love the way Dantes plays, but he coinflips games way too often, while Agurin is consistent.
i think the Agurin may have dropped rift early bc they had no minions to stay under turret
but they were out of minions when he heralded so it isnt as black and white as you are saying
19:30 Because the wave is dying, right?
Im not that good in the game but 7:35 isnt his bot got no mana and hp, and they cant help taking krugs (cuz it will ruin their reset angle), and enemy respawn timer is short and coming with home guard kinda risky?
idk the clear speed but tarzaned is saying he can kill the camp before they get there because he has smite. It's only risky if he can't, but if tarzaned isn't overestimating how fast he takes it then it's a good play to take.
ye it wouldnt be worth his botlane needs to reset and even if he takes the golems solo he would get spotted and need to run far away to recall and it would give openings to dantee for free ganks without counter gank, so I would disagree with tarzaned saying it's a mistake
another idea is to review vods played by higher elo players in korea. like dantes vs scrub or vs dekar. etc a give your opinion
Damn did noone see that sylas ult on jarvan to make galio think he ulted into botlane, so he walks up to jarvan to be killed? xD
The fact that Agurin is rank 1 EUW is enough to say he’s better than nearly everyone worldwide now hes rank 1 KR and you’re comparing him to Dantes that hardstuck masters player
I like how tarzaned doesnt get the best soloqueue jgler in the world and blames mistake, although he got gapped so hard every time they played against each other. So funny to see. Just so entertaining this cluelessness. Just ask him tarzaned if you want to reach rank 1 once on a real challenging server and not us
Lol, even Agurin admitted that Tarzaned was right based on the mistakes Tarzaned pointed 😂. When did Agurin hard gapped Tarzaned?
HE GOT RANK 1, LETS GO
He didnt take the crugs because enemy botlane is coming from base with homeguard + his botlane wants to reset
Really educational.
Do this more!
Why didn’t Dante’s take the 1st enemy gromp
at 16:30 he also gets boots
anyone else hear the air fryer finishing at 18:55
the real vs would be tarzaned vs agurin but even that battle would be favoured for agurin
Rift because tower aggro, no?
I love Dantes stream but tbf Agurin is way better (rank1 korea with higher winrate than Dantes who is still master). Dantes can still improve tho.
I wouldnt say that Agurin plays are wrong plays, just not optimized.
Agurin just hit rank 1 in Korea, so I don't think we need to debate this. But ofc, Dantes is way more fun to watch XD
W content deliverer, keep it up goatzaned
Good vid but in my opinion the Rift at 11 min was good bc all minions were dead and they would have gotten aggro.
tyler1 randomly screaming at 15:54 xDD
😂
18:07 Vs better players lol he is literally rank 1 euw and korea.
And not tsking gromp and kruggs means u get ur lvls up later and using the way u think it might come handy in some situations thats why he does it he plays safer and by extension clever, i forgot to say that same lvl translate to the whole game while in contrast with the example u gave the red buff might change the outcome of some fights in rift that might change the outcome of some fights the same can be said about that micro difference in xp as i said it will influence the whole game from that point onwards while buff is just some sec.
post your opgg
9:03 his camps are up Agurins camps are never up XD
Agurin told why he didn’t took the camps after the bot kills
Jealousy at peak
Why is there even a discussion wether Dantes IS better than agurin? Did Dantes ever Hit Rank 1 in EU? Is He even high Challenger?
Dropped herald because minion wave was dying, don't see how that's a point of contention
Agurin is rank 1 Korea. How is it debatable?
funny how Tarzaned is trying to copmare Agurin with Dantes like they are in the same league lmao. Agurin is even better than Tarzaned so dont compare Master Player with Rank 1 EUW.
should review gryffinn and dantes game
If agurin doesnt play the first kill slow then hecarim just procs phase rush and escapes. Thats the only reason the kill even happened
You're actually crazy delusional always pointing out every single mistake Agurin does. I mean it's okay to point it out but don't lose your mind over a one bad flag. You're comparing Agurin to silver players while he's destroying the guy you coached and Dantes is playing worse than every plat jungler I ever played against.
It's funny how Tarzaned is focusing on mistakes of Agurin, when his buddy Dantes is full of making mistakes in every game, has a mental breakdowns and is just a dumb US player who just recetly got challenger by a mistake.
The funniest thing is, it's small mistakes such as getting hit by gragas E when he tried to E Q over the wall. Makes it seem like agurin is some low elo shitter like we all are when infact he's consistently rank 1 euw and eune while tarzaned shits on master/gm players and sells it as content
I think he made it clear early that Dantes was just not playing the same standard and it was more interesting to him to inspect and critique agurins play, I dont think at any point he's making it seem like Dantes is playing better
He took the game personal. When he realized that Agurin took his blue, all he wanted to do was smash his face for that. Therefore, he ignored the game state and gallops straight at Agurin the moment he saw Agurin taking his crab.
It's called emotional jungling, if you don't understand it, you're low elo 😂
@@AlphaChopstick ahahhah bro thats so fckin funny emotional jungling LOLLLL!! 😂😂😂😂
I would like to see you arguing with agurin over his playstyle
I know why he like this playstyle just a grinding method
Yeah very easy to settle don‘t think anything needs to be said, respect tarzaned‘s opinion a lot but results speak for themselves i guess
king of the jungle. proved.
From one doctor to another, this looks like a high dosis of copium.
Not even a question
Agurin the full clear merchant
he dropped rift because the minions were about to die and they were gonna start taking agro
I guess the important point is that Agurin easy doubles Dantes IQ
Dantes is the proof that you are a really good coach and that anyone that has the chance to get help from you can improve a lot.
except dantes refuses to improve
Wtf of course agurin is the better jgl why we talking about that , agurin is already rank 1 in korea …
Agurin is now top 1 korea
Some1 here after Agurin got rank1 and 1.5lp ?
yeah idk dude dantes is starting to get delusional with the sleepless nights. cant be good for the mental
Dantes the kinda jungler to ignore lane states, flip an invide and spamping his team after he dies like a moron.
A random low GM high master EUW jungler is better than dantes lol. He is almost 50% winrate already, ever since he got to diamond he is negative winrare
@@jhjgjhgkhf902i didnt call agurin a random, I said any random euw jungler that is low gm, high master is better than dantes
Missunderstood mb
Don’t get me wrong, agurin is better than dantes, but you’re letting your personal feelings cloud your judgement if you think random master/gm is better than dantes. Dantes hit challenger EUW
@@Boost400 just put any instead of a at the beginning your first comment then 8D
@@dip9995the random master/gm players would hit challenger euw too